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BREAKING: Putin Cuts Gas to Europe, Mass Starvation Coming - Michael Yon Interview · Man in America Podcast

• 0:01
  Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Hulghouse. In breaking news, Putin shuts down the Nord Stream 1 gas supply to Europe in a devastating blow to nations that have embraced the green energy delusion. For weeks, European leaders have been warning of a cold, dark, and deadly winter ahead with skyrocketing energy costs and food shortages triggering mass migration from Africa. And after Putin's latest move, Europe could truly be on the verge of collapse.
• 0:36
  Joining us today is Michael Yon, former Green Beret and America's most experienced combat correspondent, to tell us exactly what he's seeing on the ground in Europe right now. But before we get started, today's show is brought to you by Rise TV. Rise TV is a Patriot owned streaming platform where our mission is to uncover the truth no matter how dark and difficult while always holding on to hope. There's a link for a free trial in the description below. And if you want to support my work, that's the best way to do it.
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• 1:59
  As you know, I've been following the food shortages, the economic collapse, Ukraine, Russia, sanctions, and everything. And right now, we're on the verge of an utter collapse in Europe. And joining me today, I have Michael Yon, who is not only the youngest Green Beret in history, but an experienced, you know, correspondent on the ground in war torn countries. You know, he's he's traveled, lived in, reported from over 80 different countries. And today, he is coming to us directly from The Netherlands, where we're seeing a crisis unfolding there.
• 2:34
  So without further ado, let me go ahead and bring on Michael Jan for today's show. So Michael, thank you so very much for joining me today.
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: Hey, Seth. Thank you. I really appreciate you having me on. By the way, I wasn't the youngest green brave. I was certainly one of the youngest at 19, But I was not the youngest.
• 2:55
  Actually, friend of mine was the youngest Navy Seal. Yeah, a friend of mine was actually the youngest Navy Seal. Someone that I used to work out with actually, Scott Helbigston, who was killed later in Iraq. And we went to high school together. He played football together.
• 3:11
  He used to work out together. He went seals. I went Green Beret. And he was the youngest actually at 17. Some people say, that's nonsense.
• 3:18
  It's impossible. I was like, slow down Rambo. Do do thirty seconds of web web foo and you'll find out Scott actually did make it through all the initial training at 17. Was a super stud. He was an he was an uncommon individual.
• 3:33
  You know, you wouldn't believe that guy. Michael, before just did.
• 3:39
  Speaker 1: I'm so yeah. My goodness. Well, Michael, why don't you just give us just a really brief explanation of you have a pretty incredible background. And whatever you felt your calling is, it's led you to really some of the worst places on earth for reporting. So just give us a little brief introduction of yourself.
• 4:01
  Speaker 2: Grew up in Florida, Central Florida, a place called Winter Haven. I didn't realize it at the time, but it was a very nice place to grow up. Actually, it was nice at the time. And I used to hunt alligators and, you know, catch turtles that we would eat and that sort of thing. And I was kind of half civilized and half not.
• 4:19
  I mean, I was out running around shooting rabbits for dinner, that sort of thing. But I was really into physics. I was I had a scientific mindset since I was a little boy. I always thought that I would grow up to be a physicist. And then I ended up in the army in the Green Beret and those sorts of things.
• 4:34
  And later was in business. And I actually worked for Michael Jackson for a while, did security for him. Just weird things like that. And then and and and for a short time as I I went through school actually. And and then here's the flies right here I warned you about.
• 4:49
  I'm in horse country in Netherlands. So there's there's these so if you see flies coming around me, it's not because I smell like Obama. It's because there there's there's a lot of flies here because all the horses. And so, yeah, so then later, you know, I've written six books, three are in Japanese, they're about information war. And the other three are two, one's about Afghanistan and one's about Iraq.
• 5:14
  I spent two years in Iraq and two years in Afghanistan doing tons of combat there. And did more combat than anybody according to the New York Times than any war correspondent. I would just gravitate to the combat, you know, because that's where I could find ground truth of what was going on. And I was highly predictive on the wars actually. My work withstood the test of time very, very well actually.
• 5:41
  It even astounded me how well the, but that was mostly a result of just spending so much time on the ground constantly going where the action was and where the action wasn't. And studying and reading and talking to the right people and ignoring the wrong people and that sort of thing. And then from there, moved on and started studying CCP and their information. Well, I covered the two coups in Thailand actually. And I started studying CCP more, the Chinese Communist Party.
• 6:12
  I've been to China quite a few times. Well, maybe a dozen, something like that, between, if you want to count Hong Kong and Taiwan and Tibet. But in total mainland, I don't know, maybe eight times. Something like that. So I've been all over China.
• 6:27
  Speaker 1: And so you're you're drawn to this conflict though. Right? And so and so you're you're in The Netherlands right now. Right? That's where you're you're coming to us from.
• 6:36
  So Yeah. And and and we're gonna just dive right into this. But we know that Putin just cut off the Nord Stream 1 to Europe, which is gonna be crippling. But what are you seeing in Europe right now? I mean, I've talked to you a few times.
• 6:51
  I've been traveling across Europe. What what's it feel like there?
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: You know, was highly predictable that he would do that. I was in Lithuania last year and warning about this. I warned about it many times on my locals or Patreon or wherever I warned about it, but in interviews and that sort of thing, it was quite, you know, nobody knows what's going to happen until post facto has happened. The conditions were being set for this, right? And now two months ago, keep in mind, I was in Mexico.
• 7:21
  I was tracking migration, right? So I've been tracking the migration, the weaponized migration from Colombia to Panama, up to Mexico, Texas. I've been all over those places. Morocco, Greece, Lithuania, these are all places I've been just in the last couple of years tracking migration. Because let me step back for a moment now, and this will all explain why I'm in Netherlands now.
• 7:48
  So remember, there's that pandemic famine war, the triangle of death, right? So if you get a big pandemic or a big war or a big famine, you'll always get the other two pan for war, pandemic famine war. So big, big pandemic, big famine or big war, three musketeers, they run together. And then these all create that hot human osmotic pressure, right? The push and pull of migration.
• 8:10
  So when you got these three together, turn that triangle on its side and that fourth leg, that pillar that makes that pyramid is that hot human osmotic pressure. These things all go you explain what human osmotic
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: pressure is?
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, human osmotic pressure, you know, the osmosis of the push and pull of migration. There's many things that can cause migration. It could be just, you know, they have better medical care in the next state or something, right? It might be they have better schools. I mean, these are things that kind of cause minor osmotic pressure.
• 8:45
  And that would be a pull, right? That would be the pull, the negative pressure, right? The positive pressure that pushes you out, you know, like a fire would be like famine or an actual because you need to get out or you're going to starve possibly, right? War, of course, pandemic. These things cause that serious positive pressure to pull you out.
• 9:07
  So you're going to naturally go somewhere where it's a little safer if you can, right? So there's that human osmotic pressure, that war and pandemic and famine. And these things go together. If you get one, you're going to get the others, right? So these things will cause people to get up and go, right?
• 9:22
  And so that's why I'm constantly tracking migrants migration patterns and these sorts of things. And that's why I was in Lithuania last year warning about this in Morocco and Greece, Colombia, Panama and Mexico. Again, two months ago, I was in Mexico. And then I saw the Dutch farmers start acting up here and blocking the streets. And I'm like, farmers.
• 9:47
  And I spent six years in Europe. And I know that the Dutch farmers are not the type that are going to they're not working at Starbucks, you know, Antifa guys, right? These are very busy people. They get up before sunrise and they go to bed shortly after sunset, right? They don't go and protest for no reason.
• 10:06
  Every country I go to, I pay attention to what the farmers are doing. And interestingly, every country I go to, I can always get along with the farmers. In every country. Even in Afghanistan, I got along swimmingly with Taliban farmers because they were just farmers. You know what they, you know what farmers are always talking about?
• 10:24
  The rain. They're talking about are their plants well? They want to tell you about their family. They want to tell you about some new cow they got or a tractor or some. I mean, they're hardworking people.
• 10:33
  They're common sense people in every single country. They're conservative, right? That's why I got along with the tally ban farmers. Well, mean, it's like, at one point I'm like, why are we at war with these guys? They're mostly just farmers.
• 10:46
  You know, I don't want to bomb farmers. But I saw the Dutch farmers out walking streets, spread manure around with those manure spreaders, you know, and got on the airplane. I flew over here and I went out to some farmers. You might have seen that farmer on the Jordan Peterson show recently. I did a long interview with Jordan Peterson.
• 11:06
  I found that farmer, asked him to make a video and I sent it to Jordan Peterson and he ran the video. In fact, I just called that farmer today and I'm going to try to go to his house tomorrow. That I flew to Netherlands and I started asking farmers, what's going wrong here, man? Why are you guys not out on your farms? Why are you blocking streets across Netherlands?
• 11:28
  And boy, did I get some good education, very important. It's clear that the globalist, the WEF as they call it here, World Economic Forum, is working very hard to take their land. It's not conspiracy theory. People like Klaus Schwab and Mark Knutha, who's the prime minister here, say it with their mouths. They say it and they write it, right?
• 11:48
  They're crystal clear that this is what they're doing. But this is a separate subject. We can get to that. That's getting more in the weeds. But the bottom line is, in January of twenty twenty, I was actually in Hong Kong until they kicked me out.
• 12:03
  They kicked me out after seven months there. And they should have kicked me out after like seven hours. But that was there for seven months covering the fighting, getting hit with those rubber bullets and all that. And that's when this pandemic broke out, right? And the pandemic broke out and I track pandemics.
• 12:20
  As a war correspondent, every morning when I wake up, I'm looking for, you know, anything that I need to be paying attention to. And one of those is I'm constantly watching typhus and I'm watching H5N1. Is there anything out here I need to know about? And then I move on to the rest of the day, right? And I started picking up some signal there in 2019, like, what's going on here in China?
• 12:44
  And I would say it on my live streams from Hong Kong, like something's going on. I don't know what, you know, but there's always something in the background, you know. And then as we get into January 2020, said, Steve Bannon called up and he goes, Do think there's a pandemic? And I said, Well, I don't know, Steve. I'm not a virologist, but I'm wearing a mask.
• 13:04
  And because back then I thought masks might be important. Only much later that I realized probably not. But back then, I thought that they probably were. And I bought a bunch of masks in January 2020, and I sent some to Thailand and some to Hong Kong, to France. And I was having problems getting somebody to get masks for me in Florida.
• 13:25
  I'm like, why can't we get a mask? I was trying to get, you know, like, I can't remember five or 10,000, I can't remember. It was a bunch of masks I was trying to get and I could only get 600. And that was after days and days of trying everything. Little did we know at the time the Chinese were out buying up all the PPE, the personal protective equipment, like the athletic suits and the masks and all that stuff.
• 13:44
  And that was when Steve called up and I said, well, I'm wearing a mask, right? And so I went on one of his first War Room Pandemic shows. But keep in mind, I think maybe the third one, but keep in mind, I had at that point read 40 books on pandemic at that time, right? And I quickly read 20 more, right? Because pandemic is a part of war, period, right?
• 14:08
  And so in January and February of twenty twenty, started warning about potential for famine. As I know what comes with a pandemic, if it was a serious pandemic. As it turned out, the pandemic of course has been a pandemic and it's been, but the effects are as if it was a, you know, smallpox outbreak or something, you know? But the actual thing, whatever it was, was almost, if people weren't telling us that people were dying, I think most of us wouldn't have even known anything abnormal swept through. I don't think we would, because it was, let's put it on my scale of pandemics.
• 14:47
  Would put, let's say, tuberculosis and smallpox and yellow fever, I would put those at like an eight. And again, let's put the 10 is like the stand from Stephen King, where almost everybody's dead. You know, we've never had one of those, but those real serious pandemics like tuberculosis, very serious, or yellow fever, incredibly serious, affected The United States probably as much, if not more than the civil war. And almost nobody even knows that, right? The yellow fever was a massive effect on The United States.
• 15:20
  And of course, smallpox and those sorts of things, that would be like your eight level. This one might have been one, like one being the level of perceptibility, like, am I actually sick or not sick, right? Or is there something going through? But the reaction to it was as if we had a major pandemic. And so the reaction likewise, we're clearly there's some intention from the globalist of creating famine.
• 15:49
  They're very clear about it. And so you see the systematic reduction of our resilience and destruction of our resilience to the point we're clearly going into global famines, which I started warning about in very early twenty twenty. So I've been warning now since literally January of twenty twenty. And back then it sounded crazy, but right now, if you're not preparing for a very serious famine, you are really gambling your life. This is no joke.
• 16:21
  It's going to happen. You will not escape, period, right? The United States actually can go into famine. A lot of people say, No, we're the number one food exporter. It means nothing.
• 16:32
  You haven't studied famine, right? I would ask everybody watching this to just quickly read five books on famine. Read any five books, right? That way I'm not loading the deck. I'll tell you one to read.
• 16:46
  Read Red Famine. That's a good one.
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: Famine. That about Famine in China, perhaps?
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: Read Red Famine. What's that?
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I was just saying, is that about famine in China?
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: No. But there's a good one about famine in China called Mao's Great Famine. I would read that one too. I've read both of them. So I'm interrupt
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I actually have a question. So in framing this, so with what we have happening is we had the pandemic. And I think you really described it accurately. It was a level one seriousness, but a level 10 reaction. We've never seen the entire world shut down like that.
• 17:22
  Supply lines, everything was shut down. That in and of itself could lead to food shortages, could lead to global unrest, could lead to a lot of major problems. But it's almost as if as soon as the pandemic, say, ended according to their degree, it's like the next day Russia invades Ukraine. And then all of a sudden, we have a whole another level of cascading, you know, effects with the fertilizer, the gas. So so let's dive into that stage of how that then perpetuated the existing, you know, effects of the pandemic and the response, more importantly, the response to the pandemic that have already crippled people, but then stepping into Ukraine and what's happening there and how that affects, you know, exports, how that affects food supply around the world, and then kinda getting into where we are with the breaking news, which is Putin saying, you know what?
• 18:17
  We're not gonna turn on, you know, your gas until basically all Western nations remove the sanctions, which this is clearly an act of war. So let's let's step into that timeline and and build up what's happening.
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, the gas is massively important, obviously. Of course, everything's being blamed on Putin at this point. And if and if you don't, you know, preface by saying Putin's a bad guy, then they'll automatically say, well, you're on Putin's side now, right? Okay.
• 18:47
  Whatever. So yeah. But but it was clear that the globalists and including prime minister of this country where I'm at now, Netherlands, Marc Ruta, and Trudeau and Biden and the president are all systematically destroying the energy resilience of our own countries already before the war, right? Like shutting down our energy independence, which we had in The United States. We had it, and we can still have it again.
• 19:18
  Here in in Netherlands, about an hour from where I'm sitting, there's a place called Groningen. In Groningen, they have all the natural gas they need to run this whole country and a significant part of the rest of Europe, but it's sitting in the ground. They won't pull it out for not to go into the details, but basically for the same reasons that we're not pulling it out of The United States. Likewise, over in The UK, Blackpool, they got plenty of natural gas. Right?
• 19:44
  So this is not this is not just Putin. Putin is being blamed for this, but there's Nord Stream one and Nord Stream two. These Nord Stream in German language means North Stream. Right? So Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2.
• 20:01
  Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 both come from Russia, and they go through the Baltic Sea, and then they come into Germany. Right? And then they are very important. Now Nord Stream 2 has never been opened because the Germans won't certify it. And earlier this year, Putin was saying, why don't you open Nord Stream 2?
• 20:20
  You can buy more gas. Of course, he wants to sell more, but Germany won't certify it. They could easily certify it. Just open it up and let it roll. So then there's Nord Stream 1, which is open.
• 20:31
  Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2 are these two arteries, right? And the one's never been opened, right? And then Nord Stream 1 flowed at 100% earlier this year. And then the war broke out and sanctions here and sanctions there. And then Putin knocked it down to zero.
• 20:49
  Right? And then for a short period, blaming on this turbine issue that needs to be refurbished, sent to Canada, that sort of thing. Anyway, skip the details. And then we go to, he reopened it to 22%, right? So at those current inputs and at the current burn rate in Germany, they're going to run out of natural gas in about February or January, depending on whatever, you know, things.
• 21:16
  And but roughly, that's where the curves would meet January, February would run out if it stayed at 22% and their consumption stayed there. So at the current rate, but now it's back to zero again. Now, Putin is being blamed for this. But meanwhile, the West keeps trying to also muscle Putin. Now, again, not to get into the argument of who shot John, you know, the Ukraine and all this stuff.
• 21:40
  I was getting messages last night from Lithuanian government, you know, asking what I'm doing and if I want to go back to Lithuania, that sort of thing. This is really growing out of control, right? And so now Russia has just let's talk about what's happened in the last twenty four hours, right? The last twenty four hours, Putin's saying, I'll cut off all of Europe. He's already cut off France.
• 22:07
  He's cut off Nord Stream 1 about four or five days ago. About five days ago, I was up until after midnight watching the flows because there's a website that has sensors on Nord Stream 1. And I was watching the flows and bingo, he cut them off. I was like, wow, he really just cut it off to zero, which is what I thought he would do because that would be the sensible thing for a thinking man to do. And he did.
• 22:33
  And so, and then I published, I said, I don't think he's going to open them back up again. In fact, I said weeks ago, I think he's going to shut it down on about August 31 or September 1. And then he's going to for those three days that he said that he would, and then he won't reopen. And that's what he did. And he's blaming it on an oil leak now, right?
• 22:52
  So in the last twenty four hours, he's just or today, he's threatening to shut off the rest. And OPEC is of which Russia is one of the OPEC nations. They are reducing their daily oil exports by 100,000 barrels per day. Now, this energy. Let's talk about the natural gas to start.
• 23:17
  Natural gas is obvious. Right now in Germany, they're cutting down the forest. And Poland is exporting trees to Germany right now. I was over in Germany, you can drive to Germany from here. I was over there recently checking out the wood and going into their basically their version of Home Depot, which is OBI is one of them.
• 23:33
  And the wood's gone, right? And the people are like, we can't get enough wood. Everybody, you know, people are getting on waiting lists and that sort of thing. And most of the Germans don't have fireplaces anyway. A lot of them live in apartments in the cities.
• 23:46
  But the bottom line is natural gas. This is far more important than just energy. Germany is now building heating islands, they call them, so that they can be at school gymnasiums this year, everybody get warmed together so that the German tribes can get warmed together with their new Somali tribal neighbors, right? That's going to work out very interestingly. So I mean, so they literally know that they're going to run out, of course, it's just math.
• 24:15
  And now flash to bang on famine. With or without the Ukraine war, we were clearly going into famine. Now the famines that are clearly building are being blamed on that. But this Ukraine war has certainly exacerbated it massively. But it was going to happen.
• 24:34
  It's just that the flash, the bang is quite long.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: And Michael, have a quick question.
• 24:37
  Speaker 2: Natural gas. There's something
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: Before we jump to the famine, which I wanna dig into heavy, with with this level of shortage of gas coming into Europe, what does that mean for life in Europe? Does it mean people won't be able to heat their homes? I mean, Europe gets cold for winter.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Yep. Very cold. Very cold. And so here in Netherlands now, the government, the very leftist and in the pocket of Klaus Schwab government. Claus Schwab is you can see him on video.
• 25:13
  Look on YouTube where he's going, where do we find such a prime minister as Marc Rutte? Marc Rutte, the prime minister of Netherlands. No, Marc Rutte and Trudeau is his two favorite boys. Right? And so, you know, it must have made Trudeau quite jealous when Claus Schwab is like, we're doing fine.
• 25:29
  Because he's so compliant to whatever World Economic Forum wants, like destroying their farmers who own 62% of the land here in Netherlands. But let's not go into that yet. We can get to that later. But natural gas, they're clearly going to be cold this winter, right? It's a big, big deal.
• 25:45
  People will probably freeze to death this winter. But flash to bang on famine. Natural gas. Back in 1909, I think it was a guy named Fritz Haber. He was a German chemist.
• 25:58
  He came up with the Haber process for taking natural gas, combining it with atmospheric air and creating ammonia, right? You would get a few drops out. And with that, you can make urea, ammonium nitrate. So one of the reasons we have billions of more people on earth now is because of the what's called the Haber Bosch process. First, the Haber process is that process in which you can do the chemistry magic and make some ammonia and then from there feed billions of people more, right?
• 26:28
  So then Bosch came along Karl Bosch and he took Fritz Haber's beaker of ammonia and found ways to industrialize that. And so they first did that at Ludwigshafen over in Germany, I was just over there at the BASF plant. You've probably heard of BASF. I'm sure you have massive global chemical company. They have factories in The United States, plants in The United States.
• 26:57
  But this is where a huge amount of the nitrogen based fertilizers come from the world like BASF that are practically closed down at this point. And they're not going to create any more nitrogen based. Yara plants, which are in Norway and here in The Netherlands, they've already closed. So they're not So think about this. So the fertilizers that we the nitrogen based fertilizers that we have in the pipeline, you know, it's still working, they're still working their way through, but they're not going to be hitting the fields come planting season this next season.
• 27:31
  So we're living on last year's harvest. And we know that this year's numbers are coming out in The United States right now, and they should be probably mostly complete in the next couple of weeks in The United States. Think your food prices, our food prices are about to skyrocket in The United States when people realize how bad the droughts and other issues have affected our crops this year. And so flash the bang. We're about to have a very cold winter here, and there's no way to undo this at this point.
• 28:00
  Right? And it's actually getting worse, right? Like just today, again, OPEC saying reducing their the Iraq War that's just kicked off or whatever you want to call it. The first thing that Mittat al Assaders people did was seize one of the oil fields. I don't know how that's going to affect the actual oil flows from Iraq.
• 28:19
  We've got also a lot of tension between Iran and the whole neighborhood. And of course, Israel. There's a lot of things that are already truncating or diminishing the amount of energy that's coming out in the form of oil or natural gas. And things are only getting worse, right? And so we've got train issues in The United States because it's not just about how much you have, but how much you can move around, right?
• 28:47
  And ships still backed up. Clearly China is collapsing. Clearly India is collapsing. I was in Sri Lanka maybe four or five years ago checking up food issues and that sort of thing. Plenty of food.
• 29:02
  But Sri Lanka took the advice of the World Economic Forum and the globalist. Bang. Next thing you know, what a month and a half ago or so, had people swimming in the president's swimming pool and sleeping in his bed and in his gym, right? They overthrew the government because now they're going in the famine, right? Let's talk about India.
• 29:20
  Sri Lanka is off the South. I've been down there checking it out. I spent a year in India and I spent another year in Nepal to the North. Nepal is pretty shaky now. I've been over to Bangladesh, which is on the Eastern Side of India.
• 29:35
  Also checking out food issues, highly densely populated country. It's clear that Bangladesh is collapsing, if not already collapsed. Pakistan on the West Side Of India has collapsed, right? Floods and other issues, it's gone with the wind. India is a massive country.
• 29:55
  Their whole neighborhood has collapsed around them at this point, right? India will almost certainly go with them, right? China as well, right? Now, let's go back to Europe where I'm at now. Germany is clearly going to collapse and they don't have the natural gas.
• 30:14
  They're shutting down their plants. Right now, they're they're out turning off burners. Right?
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: When you say collapse, what do you mean by that? Because I think that we look at Germany as being similar to America. You can go to a nice coffee shop. You can walk into a good restaurant. So when you say Germany is going to collapse as these other countries have, what does that look like?
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: You know, what's today? September 5, right? I would say we've got about three more nice months in Europe. And then I don't believe you're going to see another nice month in Europe for a generation. Collapse.
• 30:50
  Clearly, that the industry is shutting down. Look at The UK right now, similar problems. They are shutting down their businesses right now. As we speak, they're shutting factories across The United Kingdom, right? And they recommend that, not recommend, but I've seen the government and others stating in the last few days in The UK, they think about 70% of the pubs and restaurants are about to close, right?
• 31:17
  And that's the ones that didn't already close in the fake pandemic, right? And so collapse. They're clearly going to economically collapse. And keep in mind, there's 27 countries in the European Union, right? And the linchpin of that is obviously Germany and France.
• 31:34
  France and Germany, France has very serious energy problems. They're going to restart 32 of their reactors. They just announced that about forty two or forty eight hours ago, maybe 72. They're going to restart 32 reactors. Germany meanwhile, being Germany and Isch Bracken Deutsch, by the way.
• 31:52
  Isch Deutsch, right? I lived in Germany for four years, right? And I lived in Poland for two years. So I have six years running around Europe. And Germany, being Germany, laughing at Trump when he's like, don't put all your eggs in one basket, getting your energy from Russia, you know, not, you know, being arrogant.
• 32:15
  We know what we're doing. We're Germans and we're about to freeze to death, right? And so what's it going to look like? They're clearly economically collapsing right now, and they're still arrogantly pushing forward with these price controls. You know, I don't know if they think that they can actually do it, but you know, trying to put price caps on Russian energy and that it's not going to work.
• 32:40
  It's backfiring as we speak. They started, you know, and so the bottom line is their factories are shutting. Their factories are shutting as we speak. Their economy is going to collapse. That's going to take the entire EU with it, all 27 countries.
• 32:54
  A lot of us thought the pigs countries would go first, including me. When I say pigs, that's just a, you know, a mnemonic so that you can remember Portugal, Italy, Greece and Spain, so called pigs countries. But a lot of us thought one of those four countries would go first. I thought it would probably be Greece And it looked like probably was Italy and it's kind of quaking. But, you know, those are the canaries because their economies were already weak, right?
• 33:20
  But it might be the second one might be actually Germany itself. Of course, The UK has already pulled out of the EU and they're dying on their own. And so well, we're all, you know, commingled, but they're not in the EU anymore. So but the bottom line is the German economy is clearly going to collapse. I don't know where they're going to get their food next year.
• 33:44
  The nitrogen based fertilizers are not going to be there. So you're getting a choice right now. Should we heat or make fertilizer? Okay, they've chosen heat. That's a clear choice.
• 33:52
  They've made their choice, but they're not even going to get that. They're going to run out. That's that. So they're going to be cold this winter. That's clear.
• 34:02
  And that's why I say I were in the last, you know, you can feel a little nip in the air now. Like when I'm sitting outside at night, I'm like, man, I can feel it, it's coming. You know, feeling that it's, you know, I've started to feel it now. A few days ago, I felt the first nip. And so they'll be frozen this year.
• 34:20
  And with their economy destroyed like Weimar days. You know, a great book that you can see probably get some indication of what's about to unfold is called When Money Dies. It's a great book. I suggest reading it from cover to cover slowly. And if you look around, if you read When Money Dies and you read Red Famine, read those two books, you'll go, wait a minute, this is all happening around me.
• 34:46
  Again, I've read a total of 60 books on pandemic, forty before this fake pandemic and 20 during it. And then I read another 20 on famine, right? And so that's 80 books on that subject, but they're all entwined. When you read a book on pandemic, you'll always get to the part about where the famine hits, right? Or if you're reading about famine, you always get to the pandemic part, right?
• 35:08
  Because actually in famines, most people generally die from disease because you'll get what basically a population wide AIDS, right? You'll get them because when let's say ten million people or one hundred million people aren't eating well, they're malnourished, population size immune system is compromised, right? And so then you'll have what's called famine fevers, which always sweep through after usually after some months of famine setting in, you'll get famine fevers, which includes typhus, you'll get relapsing fever, You'll get other things that aren't the fevers, like cholera almost always breaks out, if not always, but every story I read on famine has a cholera outbreak. You'll have a lot of people die just because the sanitation's worse, water breaks down, electricity goes out. You know, it's funny, I was talking with a Japanese publisher yesterday.
• 36:08
  He called on Sunday. He wants a book, right? And he's like, Have you heard of this movie called Soylent Green? I said, well, it happens. I think every kid in America has seen that movie and it was quite shocking.
• 36:21
  And he said, well, you know, he should, he was just saying this yesterday, call on Sunday of all day. He's like, because I was surprised he's working on the weekend. You know what I mean? And he said, Well, you should So I watched it again last night. I hadn't watched that movie since I was a kid.
• 36:37
  And you know what year Soylent Green was set in? 2022. I was stunned. And I'm looking at the movie going, this is like right today. I mean, the fashion isn't the same, electricity going out, you know, all sorts of things like that.
• 36:54
  We just had a huge electrical problem here in Netherlands, by the way. I went to the grocery store the other day, not far away from where I'm sitting, and the bread shelves were completely empty, which I put on my locals page. And there's a sign up there in Dutch that says, you know, the bakery is closed because of the electric they had a huge electrical it knocked out the trains. They won't be back for a couple of weeks. Knocked out a bunch of data centers.
• 37:19
  I don't know what happened, but it was very significant. You can see the videos on YouTube of this electrical station going up. It was impressive. It was like eight kilometers. You can see the wires smoking way down the, you know, those giant wires and the big towers, smoking and drooping almost to the ground, right?
• 37:37
  And just the power plant went. And so I don't know what caused it. You know, one thing that's interesting about famine, when you read famine books, you see a lot of fires. Like for instance, in a book called Mao's Great Famine, there was thousands of fires. And it would be, there was some, a lot of them, they could describe why it happened and most they didn't know.
• 37:58
  And also in Red Famine, you'll read about a lot of fires at food production facilities, at food distribution facilities. And some of the reasons for these fires are the people, often the people that work there will steal a bunch of the grain or the food or whatever. And then to cover up their theft, they'll just burn the rest of it, right? And so that's one reason. But there's, and then actually in those two books, you'll come away that the authors are, we don't actually know why there's so many fires and many, you know, you can't explain that all with just that, you know.
• 38:37
  But that certainly, actually there's been three food fires here that I know of since I've been here at these food distribution hubs called Picnic. And the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation put $600,000,000 in the Picnic and three of them have burned since I've been here. I went to one of the fires actually, and it looked to me like, I'm not a fire investigator, but kind of looked like it, it kind of looked like it happened from somewhere on the inside. As you could see the walls were all intact and it just, I don't know, I'm not. And then later in the news it said there was some electrical fire inside, three since I've been here.
• 39:11
  I mean, that's quite strange, right? But the bottom line is energy is a kill shot, right? If you don't have the energy, you're not going to have the food, period. Especially in this modern world that we live in. Recently, I was in Texas a couple months ago.
• 39:28
  Actually, just spent a couple of weeks in Mexico watching the migrants cross the Rio Grande at Piedras Negras, which is on the, by Eagle Pass, I was in the Mexican side. And I went on the Texas side, I went to a friend's house and she had a nineteen ten, nineteen eleven edition of Encyclopedia Britannica. And I love Britannica and old books. So I picked up the 1910, '19 '11. So I picked up the F section and looked up famine, right?
• 39:56
  It has like two pages of that tiny little writing. And I read the whole thing a couple of times because I was, you know, how did famine look in their through their eyes at that time? It was very well written piece on famine. But they get to the end of it in that 1910, '19 '11, which you can probably find online. And if you do, you'll notice at the end that the authors are saying, well, the big famines are probably over because now with modern ships, you know, 1910, '19 '11, they had some really big ships that could go a lot faster, bigger ships than they ever had.
• 40:27
  They could go pretty fast. You know, Panama Canal was, you know, just about to get, you know, be going and railroads were faster and bigger and roads were increasing and food production. The Habermasch process was not out yet. We're talking 1910, '19 '11. Habermasch didn't start at BASF in Ludwigshafen, Germany until about 1915 or so.
• 40:52
  '15 or '16, think '15, it doesn't matter. But the bottom line is this was, you know, so the world population hadn't exploded yet because of the Heber Bosch process and the ability to create so much more food, right? Largely because of that process. And so the authors in The METANIC were saying, well, the big famines are probably over because the reason that we actually have most of our famines is because there's always plenty of food. You just can't get it to where you want It's just not there, right?
• 41:22
  Which was truthful. Like there was plenty of food during Mao's great famine that killed maybe fifty million people. Nobody knows. And you know, and how many died in Polotomor? Nobody knows.
• 41:32
  That was 32, 30 three Ukraine, maybe 4,000,000, maybe 10,000,000. I don't know. There was a huge famine in World War II over in Iran that almost nobody knows about. How many died? Four million?
• 41:45
  Nobody knows. There was one right where I'm sitting in nineteen forty four-forty five called the Hunger Winter, the Hunger Winter. And that was caused by the Nazis stopping some food flow and ice problems as well. But the problem in that 1910, '19 '11, you know, Britannica, they're saying the big famines are probably over because now we got ships. They didn't take into account the biggest famines were yet to come, right?
• 42:12
  And as the Habermasch process, which was not born yet when they wrote that, but would be born about four years later, would then lead to billions more people on earth. And thus we're much more exposed out there. You can interrupt that natural gas and you can interrupt the Havermash process at BASF and the Yara plants and so many other plants, which has now effectively been done. Right? It is done.
• 42:36
  Right? So we're not bottom line. It doesn't matter if all the natural gas, Nord Stream one, Nord Stream two and everything else is just wide open. It's too late. We're not going to have enough fertilizer next year.
• 42:47
  And then there's many other issues going on. So that Britannica, as well written as it was, they didn't take in the human component that the globalist would be born, and then systematically disable and dismantle our ability to transport, you know, with the various shipping problems and other issues and just cut the production. And remember, even if we had all the gas in the world, but it's five or 10 times more expensive, One of the ways you get into famine, by the way, now what I'm going to say next might sound kind of crazy, but just bear with me. Famine can create, I mean, hunger can create famine. Let me, I'll go with that.
• 43:33
  It sounds crazy, but hunger can create famine. Here's one of the mechanisms. Let's say it's 1922 and you're in Germany, right? Weimar, Germany, right? And the inflation is through the roof because they're printing so much money, doing war reparations, those conditions that created that situation, people just could not afford food, right?
• 43:55
  There was plenty of food, they couldn't afford it. So people start robbing stores, trains, trucks, boats, and they start robbing farmers, right? And so now you're getting into the position where food deserts are created And farmers stop farming because they're going bankrupt because people are stealing their crops. But this happens in every famine I've read about. You'll go into the it'll start.
• 44:24
  Most famines will start with a food shortage. Now, I know that sounded common sense ish, but it's not. Because for instance, in the hunger winter here in nineteen forty four, forty five, the Nazis just cut off the food really quickly. So you went from they had enough food, it was wartime rations, but they had enough food here in Netherlands, but then the Nazis cut it off. So that was, I call those a light switch famine.
• 44:47
  So like a light switch goes on, you're in famine. Like you're in a mine shaft and it caves in, that's really a famine. That's a starvation event. Starvation and famine are two different things. You know, it just suddenly happened, right?
• 44:58
  But most famines you kind of slowly go into, most of them. And that's what's happening now. And so what happens is you slowly go into it. And often the reason you're going into it is something else like economic, like war reparations with Germany, printing money, and people can't afford it. Now they're hungry.
• 45:18
  There's still plenty of food, but you're hungry because you can't afford And then you start stealing. And then the government does price controls. Every famine I've read about, governments do price controls. Panama just did this with about 75 items about four weeks ago, including fuel. And they always backfire when they do these price controls during these conditions.
• 45:40
  And so now you go from hunger and there was plenty of food to the farmers stopped farming and the truckers stopped trucking and the train stopped training the food because people are just stealing it, right? Now you'll go into an actual famine where there's just not enough food at that location at that time. And now you get a population size compromised immune system and people start dying from the famine fevers and cholera. They're starting to eat tree bark. Everybody, every famine, people are eating tree bark.
• 46:13
  So many famines I read about people are eating mud. It's like everybody has pica or something, leather. They're just eating everything, right? And so they're spreading disease because they're traveling to the next village and, you know, and that sort of thing. And you're eating things you don't normally eat, the water stops flowing.
• 46:29
  You see how this ecosystem forms and the human osmotic pressure. So that's why you see me tracking migrants a large part of the time and talking with them. Like, why are you leaving Peru? Like when I'm down the Darien Gap in the jungles of Panama, where I took two congressmen last year, I took Burgess Owens from Utah and Tom Tiffany from Wisconsin, way out in the jungle. And the people coming through there last year, I didn't see any Peruvians last year.
• 46:59
  This year, see them every day. Last year, I didn't see any mainland Chinese coming through there. This year, I see them every day. And this year, I see Afghans coming every day, Pakistanis, right? And it's about to flow even heavier, right?
• 47:14
  And when I asked the Peruvians, Why are you coming now? I mean, because you weren't I didn't see Peruvians. They're like food problems. We have food problems. And so likewise with Cuba, a lot of the Cubans will go to Suriname First, is that old Dutch colony down South America, that north part of South America.
• 47:31
  The Haitians and the Cubans will fly to Suriname because they don't need a visa. And then they'll work their way over to Colombia and then they go through the Darien Gap and that's riot or something, right? Or I've gone to Colombia to do it on that side as well. So right now with these famines, they're starting, we're on the very front edge of the curve. It's not really gone vertical yet, right?
• 47:52
  We're like over here and it's, you know, it's not really hit the sharp incline yet, but you can see the flow through dairy and gap is radically increasing, right? Because the food shortages are kicking in. This is another symptom that you see of famine. You'll see a lot of symptoms in advance. One is inflation, but inflation doesn't necessarily mean you're going go into a famine.
• 48:16
  This is just a symptom, right? You'll see food shortages. You'll see food shelves. Like the bread shelves are empty here because of that electrical outage, right? But also the meat's out.
• 48:28
  Also a lot of it's not just completely out, but I would say a third of it's gone, right? This is Netherlands, right? Right down the road from me. A lot of other items are out. A huge amount of the store is just not stocked.
• 48:39
  So these are all symptoms, right? And then you start to see people move. Like for instance, some of the Dutch people that I'm talking with are already leaving Netherlands or preparing to leave Netherlands, right? Because the educated ones that see what's coming, they're like, I don't even want to be here.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: That was was my my question actually is that is do the are the Europeans seeing this? Are they aware of what's happening? Are they taking moves? Because in America, there's been a lot of discussion of food shortages. And, yeah, a lot of people are getting back into farming and homesteading.
• 49:14
  There's a large portion of the population that are just living life as normal because their local Walmart still has bread on the shelves, and they're not thinking anything is different. But with Europe, and, you know, are the Europeans seeing the writing on the wall, and how are they reacting?
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: You know, in all the books that I've read on famine and war and the wars I've been in, know, my friend Chuck Colton, he's a war correspondent. He was in Ukraine before this war broke out. I didn't go. I was down in Mexico and Panama and whatnot tracking migrants. And Chuck was messaging me and I called him up and he goes, wow, a lot of the Ukrainians, I mean, the tanks are on the border.
• 49:57
  The Russians are here. And just a week before the invasion, Chuck was like, almost nobody believes they're actually going to do it. I'm like, grab a gun or run because it's very clear that the bear is about to invade. It's crystal clear. And meanwhile, you saw that negotiations, quote unquote, between Russia and Ukraine just before.
• 50:18
  I'm like, no, no, They're not negotiating. This is called Dada Tan Tan. Dada Tan Tan means talk, talk, fight, fight. Right? That's how they roll.
• 50:26
  Dada Tan Tan. Right? And, know, people are like, all right, they're negotiating. No, they're not. It's Dot out ten ten.
• 50:34
  That's one of the tactics, right? Here's these horseflies again. And so in the famines, typically most people don't see it until it hits them. And then actually, if you read the book Red Famine, or you read the book Mal's Great Famine, two separate books, or even When Money Dies, right? Another book that has a lot of famine in it.
• 51:00
  Most people don't see it even as they go into it. They still think it's something temporary. They don't realize you've just entered into a systemic problem. They think it's just like, oh, we just had a bad crop. We just got to get through a little bit.
• 51:13
  Like in Mao's great famine, there was accounts of many Chinese, you know, they loved Mao so much and he had a cult going there that they were writing letters, you know, hey, you know, this is what's happening here. Please come help us in Hanan Province. Hanan Province was like the breadbasket of China and yet it had some of the worst famine, right? And likewise, in Ukraine, there were people in the book Red Famine. In Ukraine, there was a part where people are writing letters to Stalin.
• 51:42
  Like if Stalin only knew he would come out, Stalin was the one doing it, right? And like right now, the globalists are clearly the ones doing it, right? They say they're the ones doing it. They're bragging about it. They're rubbing it in people's faces.
• 51:57
  And most people still don't see it. It's funny. I was doing an interview about, I don't know, two years ago or yeah, probably two years ago. And afterwards a lady, one of my readers, she came on my Locals or Patreon or whatever. She's like, you know, you talk about pan for war, pandemic famine war, as if you made it up.
• 52:15
  I said, I did make it up. She goes, no, no, it's in the Bible. I was like, Yeah. She's like, The Four Horsemen. Have you heard of The Four Horsemen?
• 52:23
  I'm like, Actually, you know what? It is in the Bible. It was clearly written there like 2,000 ago. And I probably just got it from that and had source amnesia. Because two thousand years ago, they're clearly describing panfor, pandemic famine war, right?
• 52:41
  And Exodus, right? Exodus. You know, I mean, there's like, it's the whole triangle of death and the osmotic pressure is all very clearly described. And so, yeah, and it's also clearly described 2,000. I was just talking with a friend of mine yesterday.
• 53:00
  He's a retired F-sixteen pilot. And he's a very serious Christian friend. And he's like, you know, there's one passage in the Bible that is basically like people won't see it even when it hits them. Which one is that? I don't remember the passage.
• 53:19
  I'm sorry, I can't cite this. But I read it because he sent it yesterday. But it's like, you know, most people won't see it until they die, right? And you're just gone. And that's clearly happening in The United States now.
• 53:32
  I did an interview the other day. And the interviewer was just in disbelief. We're not. It's like basically going on. It's impossible to have a famine in The United States.
• 53:43
  Good luck. I mean, good luck. Mean, That's
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: what actually what really want to ask you is that it's easy to see now. First off, you look at Africa. Africa, if there's a 5% reduction in wheat globally, it's gonna hit them because they're usually 5% within a crisis. Right? You know, already struggling.
• 54:04
  Now we're seeing how Europe is on the verge of collapse. We're seeing places, you know, over in East Asia, Asia, etcetera. So a lot of Americans, to them you know, to us, it's like, okay. We've got the midterms coming up. Let's focus
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: on breaking up just a little bit. I don't know if it's clear to our listeners, but for me, it's breaking up a little bit.
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: Okay. I'll speak a little more slow and articulate. So for people in America that look at this and think, well, America's the breadbasket of the world. There's no way we can have famine here. And if I go to my local store, there's still food on the shelves.
• 54:43
  What would you say to them?
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: Well, I would say that and often my friends, even some military friends will say, oh, it can't happen to me. I live around, I'm in farmland. And I say, listen, read five random books on famine. And so I'm not loading a deck, just read five random, just pick them. And you'll see why living in farmland doesn't mean anything, right?
• 55:09
  Like Hinan Province in China was the breadbasket of China, and yet they had some of the worst famine, right? Ukraine, huge breadbasket. They're going into famine conditions, right? And also '32, '30 '3, Durham or Halatomor, they were also a bread basket then, had a terrible famine, right? Killed millions, right?
• 55:31
  How about Iraq? I was in the Iraq war all over the place. I even wrote about this part. I spent two years running around Iraq. And in 02/2006, I think it was during the surge, there was an operation called Arrowhead Ripper in Diala Province in Bukuba.
• 55:48
  Diala Province is the capital of Bukuba. Diyala Province is the breadbasket of Iraq. It's a huge, you know, it's a lot of food. And they were going into serious hunger issues. Now this is with the US military doing our best to keep those LOCs, the lines of communications, the roads and all that open.
• 56:07
  And we had, you know, first of all, Iraq has good infrastructure. They have really good roads. They have really nice bridges. They have stuff, you know what I mean? They have really nice roads.
• 56:20
  And we were still having a hard time keeping them open even, you know, with Apache helicopters and all kinds of infantry guys, snipers to hit the IED makers. But the Sunni, many Sunni and Shia live in Diyala Province. And the Shia were controlling the food maybe 30 miles away or so over in the outskirts of Baghdad. And at one point, General Petraeus sent me a message to go see some colonel, which I went to see. It turns out they were going on a mission to go liberate this food basically from a giant warehouse because the Shia were starving the Sun.
• 56:58
  And we didn't want starvation. Of course, during our war, quote unquote, we were still having a hard time keeping the food flowing even with all of our military might. You know, it's funny when Biden says, you know, what are you going to do with an AR-fifteen against an F-fifteen? I don't know, man. I've been in a lot of war.
• 57:15
  I spent a lot of years in combat. Let me tell you what, we had a hard time keeping those roads open. And even right there, so close, very nice roads away, we had a hard time keeping the food flowing, right? So, the idea that remember, it's not just about food production. It's also about getting it over there.
• 57:38
  It's also about the prices of food, right? And as soon as you go, as soon as you have like half a day or a full day with no food and all the stores are out, we know a lot of the places around The United States, Los Angeles, Miami, Atlanta, Washington, they're going to rob every store, right? And then they're going to start robbing the warehouses and the trains and everything else. The trucks, you know, truck drivers are going to get Reginald Binney, you know, beat up and stolen. You know, they're going to steal everything and then it will stop flowing, right?
• 58:10
  This is what happens. Down in Panama recently, they're robbing trains or as you know, in Los Angeles as well, right? This is how you can have all the food in the world 50 miles away. And keep in mind, many of these farmers, there are people that my friends that live in farms around the country, some of them get it, some of them don't. First of all, the government always comes to the farms and always takes their stuff in famines.
• 58:35
  Every time that I've read the government comes, right? And they do price controls or they just like they're doing in Egypt right now, forcing the farmers to sell only to distributors that are signed off one by the government. And so the farmers would just stop farming, right? So this is how your famine really sets in. That's how you go from food shortages.
• 58:59
  This is what I say, how hunger can actually create famine, right? Instead of famine creating hunger, hunger creates famine or is additive pressure to famine, right? And so then, you know, people just stop making the food. And then you get into war situations, people start fighting each other and the farmers are like, that's it. I'm out of here.
• 59:20
  And they punch out, right? Like many right now, the war in Ukraine, think about it. Many of the farmers are right here in The Netherlands and they're often cold. They're not there. You look at some of the footage from the fighting over there, there's farmer fields out there that look like the surface of the moon.
• 59:39
  So many crater marks, they're not out there farming. So next year, even if they had the fertilizer they need, they're not going to have the transportation. Those ships, they've seen that the ships, they made an agreement that they could take some ships out with the rain. It's not enough. It's like a tiny amount, right?
• 59:55
  And they can't get it all out by rail. They just don't have the capacity. My road can't do it. It's just they don't. You can get some out, but it's only a drip, drop, drip, drop.
• 1:00:06
  So yeah, The United States could clearly go into famine. And we've had serious drought this year. For instance, the tomato crop is greatly reduced. Corn crop, watch the corn, keep your eye on the corn. The corn crop looks like it's dramatically all around me here, this corn is dry.
• 1:00:24
  I'm out here driving around and walking around on time like, wow, even the corn here, because there's some serious droughts across Europe now as well. In Northern Mexico, where I was just that two months ago tracking the migrants, they happened to walk right by the Coors beer factory, or not Coors, Corona. And it's a massive brewery. It's unbelievable. And so there's a train track that goes right up to Texas.
• 1:00:51
  But it's out in the desert and they get their water from an aquifer, right? It's dry. So they just stopped Mexico's biggest beer exporter in the world, like $5,000,000,000 a year, right? And Northern Mexico just stopped their beer. They don't have water.
• 1:01:10
  So they're not brewing beer right now in Northern Mexico, which is, that goes, most of it goes to The United States. So you're probably going to have a hard time getting coronas, if not already, right? So all these things are additive. Now think about the impacts on the Mexican economy. They're going to say, well, go north again, right?
• 1:01:29
  That human osmotic pressure. All these droughts and all these different additive pressures that normally we could work our way through. You probably saw what happened to Lake Mead and Lake Powell. Luckily, I think some rain has been coming. I hope it fills them back up, you know.
• 1:01:44
  I mean, we can, you know, when you mentioned to people, you know, Las Vegas could literally be a ghost town. If those lakes dry up, it's goodbye in Las Vegas, right? It's unimaginable to some people because that normalcy bias is a killer, right? But math is math. It's simple math.
• 1:02:03
  If you don't have the water, your city's going to die. And so that's the So we've got the fertilizer, we've got the water, we've got the transportation, we've got the energy, we've got all these dip, the energy is huge. I mean, with enough energy, we'll have enough water. If you got enough cheap energy, you can take the seawater and you know, if you got enough nuclear power plants, to go into that, but the point is they keep coming out with these windmills all over the place, which are all around the year. You see Germany and Canada, I was about to call it China because it's becoming like that.
• 1:02:41
  But Germany and Canada just signed an agreement that Canada will use their little windmills to create hydrogen through electrolysis and send it back over to Germany. Hydrogen, right? Hydrogen. So, okay, you're going to have to rework your entire system to use hydrogen instead of natural gas. You can't just do this.
• 1:03:02
  Not to mention that hydrogen, you know the Artemis spacecraft that they just tried to launch twice, the biggest rocket in the world. The reason it didn't launch these last two times, it hasn't launched yet. Hopefully they'll launch it soon, hydrogen leaks. You know, as a kid that grew up in Florida, like as a science geek and like a space freak, basically. I used to love to go watch the shuttle launches and that sort of thing.
• 1:03:26
  I'm totally into it. I'll talk rockets with you until your ears fly off, right? And why did this, I would often see the space shuttle sitting on the launch pad going, and we have a hydrogen leak and it's scrubbed for today. Because hydrogen is the leakiest stuff on Earth, you know, that H2. So what I'm getting to is, and the Artemis just had hydrogen leaks and scrubbed two launches from it, right?
• 1:03:48
  Hydrogen. So now they're talking about using windmills in Canada to create the hydrogen through electro not create it, but to liberate it, let's say, from the oxygen and then send it over on ships over to Germany. It doesn't, you know, it's just not, it doesn't, you know, not that Trudeau ever took any algebra. But keep in mind, this is not about whether it makes sense. This is a systematic dismantling of life as we know right?
• 1:04:15
  It doesn't make sense. That's why you have to change your paradigm. Remember, we were talking before, if you see things which constantly don't make sense, you're going, it wouldn't make sense. The math would not even, I don't even have to do the math to tell you that getting hydrogen from Canada over to Germany will not solve this energy crisis. First of all, you have to rework the whole German system, which would take, I don't know how long, you know, not ten years.
• 1:04:46
  It's going to take a lot longer than that. And it's hydrogen. You're going to have buildings blown up all over the place. And it's just not, there's no chance that it's going to be cheaper than the natural gas that is right under my feet here in Netherlands. You know what I mean?
• 1:05:04
  It's like there's natural gas all over the place and yet they won't pull it out of the ground. That's why they're getting it from Norway right now. You know what I mean? Poland actually has common sense. Poland saw what was coming.
• 1:05:18
  I lived in Poland for two years. You'll never accuse Polish people of not having common sense. They got common sense. And they come from farming stock people a lot, right? And Poland lived under the Nazis and they lived under the communist and they don't like either one of And so Poland, you know, detached itself from the Nord Stream from the not Nord Stream, from the Russian gas dependence and started getting it from Norway.
• 1:05:46
  And Poland's tanks are filled up to 100% right now. It might be 99 or so. It doesn't matter. Say 100%. It's basically there.
• 1:05:53
  They're ready for the winter. Poland's going to get through the winter unless, say, you know, a Russian rocket hits their storage or something. Right? But I mean, but Poland has stocked up because they got common sense, right? They took away their energy and they're not systematically destroying Poland.
• 1:06:12
  One of the things about Germany is that one of the things I learned when I was in Special Forces was study mythology, study local religions, especially study mythology. And it was something that I took to heart and for years now I've read like everything Joseph Campbell ever wrote. I read a lot of mythology. I infiltrated the cult one time and lived with them and that sort of thing. You know, just an amazing experiences.
• 1:06:42
  So when I look at a, like when you go to say, Afghanistan and people are like, oh, you have to study Islam to understand how the Pashtun people work. I'm like, no, you don't. You study Pashtun Walli. Pashtun Walli is the substrate. Pashtun Walli is the wall.
• 1:06:59
  Islam is the paint, right? And if you ask Pashtun people, what is more important to you? Pashtun Wali, which is the Pashtun code, let's say, or Islam, every single one I ever asked said, oh, Pashtun Wali, of course. But Islam is very important. But we're Pashtun people.
• 1:07:16
  First, we are Pashtun, Pashtun Mali. And then we are Muslims, right? So likewise, when it comes to, let's say, Catholicism in Mexico, you're
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: not
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: going to understand Mexicans and Polish and Italians just because they're all Catholic. It just doesn't work that way. You have to understand the substrate there. And when it comes to Germans and their guttedomeron thing, you know, they're just like they're apocalyptic firmware that they operate on. And I'm not saying this to insult Germany.
• 1:07:54
  I'm not saying that. But you have to understand that there is a firmware underneath that is highly self destructive. And as me as a Scot Irish, I'm not like that. I don't want to see my country in flames. I don't want to see my country in the ice storm.
• 1:08:10
  You look at Gotha Damodom and study that firmware, and you'll see the Germans are living their myths. I mean, we tend to live our myths, whatever myths we ascribe to that's like a firmware, we will tend to live out that myth, right? You know, I do it, you do it, we will try, we will tend to do it subconsciously, right? And the Germans, they've got that whole thing of apocalypse now type stuff going through the cold winter, which is part of their myth, three cold winters and famine, right? And so when I watch what the Germans do, I'm what, you know, a lot of people are looking at it from the economic perspective and whatnot.
• 1:08:47
  I'm like, no, no, let's look at, you're looking at the paint job on the car. I'm looking at what's in the engine here. And what's in the engine here with Germany and some of those cultures Who was one of the psychologists? Was it Jung? He said when he was treating German patients, they often it may have been you, I don't recall.
• 1:09:04
  They often suffered from certain maladies. And at one point he realized it wasn't the individual, it was the culture. Yeah. And like, for instance, Koreans will have something called Hwabang, Hwabang, which means fire disease, right? When they can just get very it's in the DSM actually, if you know what I'm talking about, that psychology book.
• 1:09:26
  I read the whole DSM. The Hoa Bong is called fire disease. And it's just a cultural thing where people basically go post it, right? But it's part of the culture. It's so much embedded in the culture that it's actually in the DSM, which every psychologist and psychiatrist knows DSM because they had to read the whole thing when they went through their PhD program.
• 1:09:48
  And I happened to read the whole thing myself as well, because I had a girlfriend that was working on her PhD in psychology and I found it on her table. And if I see a book, I have to read it. It's like a compulsion, right? And I read it, I was like, this is amazing. This is like an encyclopedia of mental illness, you know?
• 1:10:04
  But Hua Bong is in there, right? But likewise with Germany. They are highly susceptible to this. First of all, a lot of the globalism is coming from Germany, like Klaus Schwab, and this whole way, everything about him is coming from this whole thing that's being constructed. An apocalypse now is based on those old, like they are going to depopulate the earth.
• 1:10:34
  You know, when I was on the Jordan Peterson show recently, I think Jordan, he's going to, I'm going to see him over here soon. I'm going help him take him out to see some farmers. But Jordan said something like he read that, you know, one hundred and fifty million people can be affected by these families. I said, Jordan, I think it can be a lot higher. Like for instance, Lara Logan, when I talked with her, Lara, she's an incredible worker.
• 1:11:00
  Lara was talking on the phone with Lara and she's like, Michael, listen to me. It can be over a billion people. Are you paying attention? I love her. She's like, you know, she gets really intense.
• 1:11:11
  And even the globalists have said that these famines can cause 1,200,000,000 people to migrate, right? But I would not doubt. And another thing about famine is famine creates famine, right? Just like war creates war. Fire creates fire.
• 1:11:32
  Inflation creates inflation when you prep more money and famine creates famine. So, once you get that famine going, it gets going and it takes on a life of its own. Now it's not in anybody's control. But remember, most modern famines are man made or have a huge man made component such as the potato famines in Ireland, right? A lot of that was also caused by the English.
• 1:11:56
  It was, you know, they're also monocropped with their potatoes and it was many things. But the bottom line is there was also a huge manmade component. And so, right, it's very clear that this man made component, this is just me talking. I've not seen anybody write about this ever except for me. I lived in Germany for four years, I've studied a lot of mythology and I all, I spend more than half my life in other countries with other cultures and I'm looking for that firmware.
• 1:12:29
  And that German firmware is self destruction. Occasionally, everybody just runs like lemmings off the cliff. And that's what they're doing now, right? And they're doing, they're making systematically dismantling Germany. And they're doing, for instance, treating Poland.
• 1:12:48
  They always treat Poland badly. But Poland has what I would call a non Newtonian personality. The harder you push them, the harder they get. You know, like a non Newtonian substance like ketchup, the harder you try to get it out of the bottle, the harder it gets, right? And Polish are like that.
• 1:13:05
  I love Poland. But, you know, you push them and it's like a mule, right? You're going to have to leave the mule with a carrot or something, but you start pushing a mule, you're going get kicked, right? And by trying to force the Polish take their fair share of migrants, they're not going to do it. And the harder you push them, the more they're not going to do it.
• 1:13:28
  They're just not going to do it. And I say for the well-being of the quote unquote migrants, don't send them to Poland. Because the moment you start raping Polish women, they're going to kill you. They are not going to call the police. They're not like Sweden, like, well, you know, multiculty stuff.
• 1:13:44
  They had raped another woman. No. The Polish guys are not going to call the police. They're going to call their cousin. And he's going to show up with tire irons.
• 1:13:52
  The whole village is going to come out. And then the next thing you know, the villagers will be all the migrants will be running back over the border of the Oder River to Germany, right? So I mean, it just won't, it doesn't work that way. And meanwhile, we've got like the Germans now pushing the Polish to do certain things. And the Polish are like, okay, about three or four days ago, Polish demanded $1,400,000,000,000 in war reparations from World War II.
• 1:14:20
  Meanwhile, we see Polish going off into the sphere of CCP. They've got to keep their economy going. But they're like them and Hungary. And I was just in Hungary recently as well. And Poland and some of the others, especially Hungary and Poland are being treated like, you know, you're not welcome here.
• 1:14:42
  Well, they're going to try to keep their economies open. This is what we did to Japan, by the way. Pre World War II, Japan was desperate to come on side with us. FDR, you know, the guy who stole Americans gold in what was that, 'thirty two or 'thirty three, right when the Holodom War was going on in Ukraine. But anyway, FDR was forcing Japan.
• 1:15:06
  We did an embargo. The Dutch helped us, you know, cut off their oil, cut off their tin, cut off the rubber, the British helped us, Aussies, Canadians. And we did the embargo on Japan, and Japan was desperate to negotiate with us. And finally, Japan said, we've got no friends and we're running out of oil. Let's make an agreement with the fascists and the Nazis.
• 1:15:27
  Neither one of them, they didn't like either one of them. That's what Poland's doing. Poland's running off and has to buddy up with China now, whom they don't like. Polish, they don't want to do. But what are they going to do when the EU is treating them badly?
• 1:15:41
  This is the Germans in particular, and the French are involved too, especially Germans, keep treating the Polish like they're quote unquote retarded cousins, as some people would say. And the Polish are smart people. They're strong. And the Polish are like, we're not going to give in, and we're gonna keep our economy open. If we have to, we'll just do business with China.
• 1:16:02
  Because they need they started looking out for their people. It's
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: So what you see is the Polish government looking out for their own people, but this brings me back full circle to America because it's not just you that see this coming. And it makes me wonder why do you think that the American politicians, even the America First, Donald Trump, etcetera, why aren't more people in America talking about this? Because it seems like America is on the train tracks and a freight train called famine is coming, yet no one's talking about it here in America?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: You're breaking up quite a bit. Can you ask the question again?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: Just Yeah. Why do you think American politicians are not talking about this?
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Good question. I think part of it is it's outside the Overton window. For those who don't know what the Overton window was, I'm always cognizant of that. Like and, Jen, I'm constantly jumping out of the Overton window. It's like, there goes Mike out the Overton window again.
• 1:17:13
  Of course, the Overton window is that is, you know, sort of the thing that the things that you're allowed to say, quote unquote, until you just look crazy, right? And so a politician never wants to, or a writer, doesn't want to go outside the Overton window, which I did, for instance, in Iraq in 02/2005, in early two thousand and five, when I was saying Iraq was in the civil war. And it was very important to accurately diagnose that Iraq was in a civil war because you're going to treat a civil war differently than you would treat just say, your average insurgency. There was insurgency going on, but it was also civil war. In other words, but it was politically inexpedient, let's say, for the Bush administration to call it a civil war, right?
• 1:17:58
  And so, but it was a civil war. And I mean, was seeing the Sunni and Shia fight each other like crazy, right? And I mean, I was in it. I mean, I was the heads in the road every day. It wasn't them.
• 1:18:07
  They were fighting us, of course. They were mostly fighting each other, right? And so, and it was very important to recognize that so you can treat the actual disease. But to call it the civil war, then the Bush administration thought that that might cause Americans to lose heart in Iraq. A civil war, but it grown for another year and a half.
• 1:18:43
  Then we started treating it as a civil war and we're actually able to do certain things to, once we openly called it a civil war, then we could openly treat it as such. And we actually did knock it in the head pretty well. But the earlier that you can just call it that and fix it, then people forget about it, right? But if you let it burn, I mean, it's going to burn. Yeah, there's many things that are unfolding now.
• 1:19:10
  And it's very clear that the EU, that the chances of the EU sticking together for another two years, it's hard to imagine. But even for another year, it's hard to imagine. It might still be there, well, on paper, but in spirit, I think it'll be dead as soon as there's Right now we've got like a global 1848 unfolding. I call it global 1848 because in 1848, was revolutions all over Europe, including here in Netherlands, right? And that was after what they called the hungry 40s, right?
• 1:19:43
  The 1840s, where there was a lot of food shortages and there was other things going on. And that's actually when Karl Marx, you know, and Ingalls came out with, you know, in the late 40s, they come out with the, here we go with the manifesto. And so, it's funny in 1879, President Grant was in Paris and warning about communist. And he was using the word communist. He wasn't, I'm not paraphrasing.
• 1:20:06
  He was actually warning about communists in 1879. But he wasn't president at that time. He had already left the presidency. But the point is, is 1848, there had been that decade of a lot of hunger. And the next thing you know, had revolutions all over Europe.
• 1:20:22
  There was a huge protest in Prague on Saturday with maybe 70,000 people. It's estimated, I've seen the photos and videos, it looked like legit, probably was that or more. You've had the same thing happening here, not in those large numbers, but protests this weekend, and also down in Belgium and Germany. But yeah, it's happening. It's picking up.
• 1:20:46
  But wait till this hunger sets in. When the hunger sets in, it's going to be game on. Nobody can control. Nobody's going to be able to control millions and millions of hungry people.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 1: So before we finish here, what is your advice to anybody who's watching?
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: My advice would be to I would go back to the same advice I was getting back to the Overton window. In early twenty twenty, when I started warning people, the Overton window is that distance you can go before you sound crazy, right? And in early twenty twenty, I was just saying stock up. Privately, I was telling my friends, make sure you've got at least three months, right? Which to me, that's not enough.
• 1:21:35
  But I didn't want to jump out the Overton window because then they just don't listen to you, right? Except for the people that really knew me well, then I was telling them two years, right? But the others, you know, I was just like, just three months, you know, at least they get something started. And which is not hard to do. It's not that expensive actually.
• 1:21:55
  And now I would say there's still a window to do something. Clearly, there's still a lot of food out there. If you've got the money, which would not be that much money if you get a bunch of rice and beans and other things, get things that make comfortable, don't forget the spices and the salt and the pepper and all that. I would get a minimum of two years. Most famines don't last more than two years, but this one, I think it's going to last a lot longer.
• 1:22:24
  That's just the way it's shaping up. And keep in mind, it's not just about famine, like there's not enough to eat. It's also just the prices, right? And so the prices are already, all the food that I already bought is already appreciated. It's already worth a lot more than it was when I bought it.
• 1:22:40
  And everything you buy today is on sale. I mean, everything. Because the prices are, look, our crop reports, the actual yields this year are going to be known within many of like the tomatoes clearly just got smoked in California, for instance. So, you know, the canned tomatoes and that sort of thing. Also problems with potatoes, problems, huge problems with corn, always watch the corn.
• 1:23:08
  Beef prices are down right now. If you got a big freezer, if I are you, I'd fill that bad boy up. And another thing I would do is don't depend on the grid. If you can get solar, if you're in a place where you can actually do that, do it and do it now. And don't waste time.
• 1:23:29
  Because once people realize that the grid is going down, where are going get your solar then, right? Because, you know, I did that in Thailand. I have an office there. As soon as the pandemic hit, I put, you know, on the cap, when I went to the office, the solar panel office of business in Chiang Mai, Thailand, and the lady started to come out with a charge. Well, this is the price per kilowatt hour now, this is where you break.
• 1:23:53
  I'm like, I don't care about breakeven. I want solar panels right now. You know what I mean? I'm not here about whether or not, to pay off or not. I want electricity, right?
• 1:24:04
  And I want to make sure my freezers don't go out and destroy all my food, right? So make sure that, you know, you think about that. Think about your freezers going out, get a pressure cooker, learn how to pressure cook. And if your freezer does go out, by the way, very quickly, you know, pressure cook everything that you can. And if you're cooking with gas or whatever, fine.
• 1:24:31
  If you get the right solar system, then you'll be able to easily, you know, do a lot of work with that. It depends on where you live and that sort of thing and your budget. But there's many things you can do. A lot of people now, you know, of the things I've learned in my reading about famines and my many years of wars is that as an individual, you're not going to do very well. It doesn't matter if you're Rambo, you're not going to do very well.
• 1:24:54
  You have to have a tribe, right? You have to have, you have to be part of a larger system. And a friend of mine in Texas said, he lives in a small town and he's a former military guy and he's like, he's pulling his community together. He's like, I've made an Excel spreadsheet. Everybody who's interested in being involved and lifting their skills, right?
• 1:25:17
  And there's this one lady, she's in her 70s, her husband's dead, she's like getting afraid. She's like, I don't have any skills. There's nothing I can do. He's like, yeah, do. You've got you raised, you had grandchildren, you got a lot of skills, but let's talk about what you can do.
• 1:25:31
  And she's like, well, know, and he said, can you can or she said she could can pressure cook. He's like, that's a huge skill. I'll go shoot the hogs and you pressure cook them. Right? You know what I mean?
• 1:25:45
  I mean, we need you. I mean, it's like, tell us what you need, how many jars you need, what kind of pressure cooker you need, and we'll get gas. You are now captain pressure cooker, right? You're in charge of pressure cooking operations. You know, she's all of a sudden, she's quite happy because she realizes she does have a skill and it's an important skill and she needs to start teaching the kids how to do it, right?
• 1:26:07
  And she's not going to be left out in the cold. She's not going to be at all. In fact, she's going to be working a lot. She'll probably be like, I wish I'm back in the family. You know what I mean?
• 1:26:16
  She'll be working over that pressure cooker, you know. And so, you know, build your tribe, pull your tribe together. You know, this obviously depends on what your situation is and where you live and that sort of thing. There's many things that people can do. I've been preparing, I've always got at least three months supply.
• 1:26:36
  I mean, I'm a war correspondent, man. I see things go bad all the time. And I grew up in Florida, hurricanes like quite places. So you know, I'm used to like, Mike is not going to be caught without water. You know what I mean?
• 1:26:48
  It's like, you know what I mean? I'm not going to be caught without water. I can't drink. I got my cat and I'm water filter in my Berkey and other systems. You know, I'm going to be ready.
• 1:26:58
  I'm not going to die of thirst. And everybody needs to think like that, right? And to give yourself some breathing room so that you can figure out what to do next. The last thing you want to do is when the electricity goes out and there's already not enough, our warehouses and our grocery stores, Kroger's and Publix and all that, they're just in time, right? I mean, so when things go out, you know, it's out.
• 1:27:24
  And the general resilience of The United States and the world is being greatly reduced. In the past, you know, if Corpus Christi or someplace like, you know, Miami gets smashed by a hurricane, Homestead or Charleston, then the rest of the country can help out. If there's a big fire, we can help out. But when your general resilience is reduced, hey, you just got wiped out and energy prices are very high. It's not like the Cajun Navy can just show up like we normally do, right?
• 1:27:53
  It's not like everybody's going to come and do an Amish, a barn building for you either, right? And when the energy prices are, you know, people keep talking about rebuilding Ukraine. I'm like, Ukraine's dead, man. You killed it. Who's going to rebuild Ukraine at energy prices this high?
• 1:28:07
  You know what I mean? It's just, you've killed Ukraine, obviously. It's going to take a long time, generations, and you're going to rebuild the thing. And, you know, it's not like the farmland is dead, but it's now filled with, you know, bombs and things that take time to clear. They still find bombs here all the time from World War I and World War II, right?
• 1:28:30
  So I mean, obviously the farmers are farming here. But the bottom line is a lot of the damage that normally we can recover from quickly, like the Marshall Plan that occurred after post World War II here in Europe, energy was cheap then, you know. So rebuilding things and building things wasn't because everything is contingent on energy and energy prices. Which right now, is, there's still plenty out there, but it's not available for whatever reasons. Shut off Nord Stream one, oil OPEC, reducing their by another 100,000 barrels per day, and all these other things going on.
• 1:29:16
  United States, thanks to the globalist and the surrender of people within the United States government to them, our energy independence is gone. Yeah. And so things, the resilience is much lower now. So think for yourself. You're not on your own entirely because there's a lot of us out here that do know what we're doing and have spent, there's a lot of veterans out there.
• 1:29:41
  There's a lot of people that were in the Peace Corps off in Africa or someplace. They've been in places and they know how to like, we'll figure this out. You know what I mean? We're getting thrown a few curveballs here, but you know, let's just sit down and think this through. And then get up and start working on it, you know?
• 1:30:00
  And so we'll make it through. Everybody watching this, all of our family trees have been through pandemics. There is nobody watching this who doesn't have a lot of people in their family that was in a lot of wars and a lot of families. We are all the children of survivors, right? So there's nobody watching this that doesn't have a family tree filled with people that were in endless wars.
• 1:30:26
  And we're still here, you know, And, you know, make the best of it. This is a good time to learn to read by candlelight.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 1: I agree completely. Well, Michael, before we finish, where can people follow your work?
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: I'm on locals.com every day, locals. I used to be on Patreon. I'm still on Patreon, but I don't go there anymore because Patreon is, you know, de platforming people, locals. I say all kinds of things that would get me de platform from Patreon. And you know, it's funny by the way, and I'll finish up.
• 1:31:01
  But in the beginning of the pandemic in January, February, March, and I kept saying, this is a pandemic, you would get removed from social media at that time for calling it a pandemic, right? And then later as time evolved, and then you realize, wait a minute, it's a planemic, right? You know, but anyway, I'm on locals.com and I have a website, michaeljon.com as well, but mostly I'm on locals every day. Then Locals is where I'm more likely to be able to answer questions, by the way. I can't answer everything, but I do answer a lot.
• 1:31:34
  Speaker 1: Also, noticed you're on Truth Social as well.
• 1:31:39
  Speaker 2: Oh, that's right. Truth Social. And I'm on getter at mikeleon1776. I keep the painful Twitter account open because, well, I loved what Elon Musk did with Twitter. That was classic.
• 1:31:54
  He just totally outfought him in me.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Michael, thank you so much for what you're doing, and thank you for taking the time to join us today. And I'm sure we'll be in touch with some updates as this all unfolds. So, you know, God bless and be careful out there because it's a wild ride that we're on right now, isn't it?
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 2: Thank you for having me on. I really appreciate it. I told you I'd talked your ear off.
• 1:32:20
  Speaker 1: No. It's wonderful. There's so much information here. This a dense interview, so people are gonna love it. And just thank you again, Michael.
• 1:32:28
  I really, really appreciate having you here.
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 2: Thank you.