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INTERVIEW: Nancy Mace Talks Women's Rights, Trump Vs. Kamala, Republicans Vs. Democrats, Legislation + More · The Breakfast Club

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Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club.
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Speaker 2: Morning everybody, It's DJ n V, Jess hilarious, Charlamagne the guy.
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Speaker 2: We are to breakfast Club. Jess is on maternity leave
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Speaker 2: so long. La Rosa is filling in. And we have
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Speaker 2: a special guest in the building.
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Speaker 1: We have Nancy Mace.
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Speaker 3: Welcome and thank you for having me. Great to be here.
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Speaker 1: Finally, what's happening in Nancy?
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Speaker 3: Not much, Well, we have, you know, election coming up
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Speaker 3: and that sort of thing. But it's great. We've been
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Speaker 3: talking about doing this for a while, so thanks for
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Speaker 3: having me here. It's great to be here.
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Speaker 1: You know, me and Nanthy went to high school together.
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Speaker 2: I think I've heard she looks so much younger than you.
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Speaker 3: We're the same age. We're literally the same age.
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Speaker 4: Senior, you were freshman.
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Speaker 3: What's that?
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Speaker 4: Was he a senior you were a freshman? Or was
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Speaker 4: he just like the guy that kept coming back to
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Speaker 4: the school.
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Speaker 5: I got kicked out of Berkeley and then they made
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Speaker 5: me go to Scrafford because that's where my mom works.
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Speaker 1: So my mom was a teacher as grapher in Nancy's mom.
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Speaker 3: Our mom's taught school together and actually know each other
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Speaker 3: and I don't know if we knew each other when
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Speaker 3: we were school at all. I mean, I was you
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Speaker 3: were there very long?
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Speaker 1: That was there maybe three months in high school that
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Speaker 1: you remember?
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Speaker 3: Was he? No, I don't. I don't know if we
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Speaker 3: knew each other. He was only there for a few months.
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Speaker 3: But but we dropped out of the same high school
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Speaker 3: the same year, and our mom's taught school together. And
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Speaker 3: you got kicked out. I I had been raped by
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Speaker 3: a classmate of mine at sixteen, and I just now
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Speaker 3: your fault. It happens a lot, and I just decided
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Speaker 3: I couldn't go back to school. And I decided and
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Speaker 3: I and I really haven't been back, haven't been back
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Speaker 3: since since that time in period. Yeah, I mean it's
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Speaker 3: it's been a long time. But I grew up in
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Speaker 3: that area. I grew up in Crowfield and College Park
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Speaker 3: Road and lads in that area. But I just I
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Speaker 3: couldn't physically bring myself to go back to school, and
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Speaker 3: that at that point, i'd kind of given up on myself.
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Speaker 3: And my parents mom was a school teacher and my
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Speaker 3: dad is retired army, and they're like, if you're going
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Speaker 3: to stop going to school, you have to start going
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Speaker 3: to work. I don't know what your parents said to you,
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Speaker 3: but mine like, go get a job. I got a
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Speaker 3: job at the waffle house and College Park Road and
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Speaker 3: Latson Exit two o three, and I was a waffle
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Speaker 3: house waitress for a couple of months when I decided
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Speaker 3: maybe I wanted to get my high school diploma and
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Speaker 3: not be a waffle house waitress the rest of my life.
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Speaker 1: It was crazy. The shooting that got me arrested happened
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Speaker 1: on College Park Road.
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Speaker 3: Really, we believe.
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Speaker 1: In a McDonald's, definitely. I think the McDonald's right there by.
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Speaker 3: It is right by the waffle house.
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Speaker 5: Yeah, shooting. We were leaving that McDonald and the shooting
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Speaker 5: happened by the Burger king that was, yep, right there
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Speaker 5: on College Park Road.
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Speaker 3: Yep. Tall fine singery that area.
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Speaker 2: So how did you go from waffle house to being
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Speaker 2: a US Congress representative?
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Speaker 3: Well, I had I had it's steps and it's also
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Speaker 3: you know, God's hand in some ways, the fine intervention.
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Speaker 3: You talk about that a lot. But I would eventually
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Speaker 3: go to college and I went to the Citadel, the
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Speaker 3: Military College of South Carolina. It's a place where my
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Speaker 3: dad went. There had been no women there in one
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty four years and I was the first
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Speaker 3: when I applied, I was the first class of women
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Speaker 3: to go there. I ended up graduating the first woman
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Speaker 3: from the Citadel twenty five years ago. This year, I'm
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Speaker 3: feeling my age really kind of old. And then the
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Speaker 3: rest is sort of history. And I started my own
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Speaker 3: company in two thousand and eight. I did a little
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Speaker 3: entrepreneurial work, and then I ran for state House in
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Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen, I won. I was served for
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Speaker 3: three years, and then this seat, I won it from
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Speaker 3: a Democrat. In twenty twenty, I flipped the seat. We have.
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Speaker 3: Our district is different, it's very purple. It's a swing district,
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Speaker 3: very diverse. And you know, when I think about us
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Speaker 3: and the friendship that we have, we're two. We're different politically,
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Speaker 3: I mean, poll our opposites in some cases. But to
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Speaker 3: come out of the same county, the same stoplight in
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Speaker 3: South Carolina, two people that should have never been should
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Speaker 3: have never made it, never been successful, and we're two
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Speaker 3: of the most successful people to come out of Berkeley County.
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Speaker 3: It's really it's an amazing feating. Now our friends, I
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Speaker 3: call you and hit you up like, is this joke
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Speaker 3: gonna fall, is this gonna land well when I say this,
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Speaker 3: or is this a terrible idea? But we've become, you know,
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Speaker 3: great friends. We mett year at Charlotte excuse me, at
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Speaker 3: Dave Chappelle's show in Charleston. When we first met with Dave, Well,
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Speaker 3: he was arguing with me. I mean, we're arguing about
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Speaker 3: we were drinking tequila and he was giving me political
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Speaker 3: advice and it was great advice. It's advice I give
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Speaker 3: other people. It's it's read the room. Because today politicians
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Speaker 3: they're they're just not I mean, everyone's red shirt, blue shirt.
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Speaker 3: We're gonna we're gonna pick sides and stay there. But
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Speaker 3: there's a lot I've in between. There's a lot of purple.
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Speaker 3: There's a lot of common ground. And regardless of what
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Speaker 3: issued is that we're debating, there there is so much
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Speaker 3: that we can if we listen to the people. It's
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Speaker 3: very different than what's in Washington. Washington is totally out
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Speaker 3: of touch with the rest of the country, completely out
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Speaker 3: of touch.
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Speaker 5: The Post and Corea asked the question this morning that
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Speaker 5: a lot of people ask what side is an anti
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Speaker 5: mace on because you challenge Republicans a lot, but then
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Speaker 5: you vote, you know a lot.
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Speaker 3: Well, actually, and I and I wrote that ap ed
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Speaker 3: this morning because I want people to ask the question
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Speaker 3: and then answer it. I'm actually the of all four
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Speaker 3: and thirty five members of the House, I'm the twenty
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Speaker 3: second most bipartisan, So I'm like almost top twenty most bipartisan.
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Speaker 3: Yet I get pilloried in the press by certain media
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Speaker 3: outlets that I'm a raging partisan. Am I conservative on
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Speaker 3: most issues? Yes, but they're and there are a lot
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Speaker 3: of issues where I'm maybe to the left or socially
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Speaker 3: moderate on. I do a lot of civil rights work.
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Speaker 3: I do a lot of work for women because I'm
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Speaker 3: a survivor of rape. I've been through domestic abuse, and
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Speaker 3: I know how terrible our laws are at the federal
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Speaker 3: and the state level. But I've worked a lot Rokana
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Speaker 3: you talked to him earlier this week, and Roe and
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Speaker 3: I do a lot of tech and cybersecurity, computing type
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Speaker 3: of legislation together. But it's not sexy. It's not clickbait.
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Speaker 3: It doesn't get you likes when you're on X or
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Speaker 3: views when you're on Instagram. It's not the sexy thing
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Speaker 3: that the media likes to talk about is when we
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Speaker 3: get along. They like divisiveness. It pays ads, I mean
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Speaker 3: that sort of thing. But I'm actually been really effective
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Speaker 3: on working with both sides of the aisle. But I
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Speaker 3: also called them out. I mean, you know, Republicans and
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Speaker 3: Democrats alike are the reason that things cost so much
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Speaker 3: with inflation. I mean, we did a debt ceiling bill
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Speaker 3: last year, passed by both parties, and do you think
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Speaker 3: it had a limit or a limit to the debt
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Speaker 3: and a debt ceiling bill did it have a ceiling?
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Speaker 3: It didn't have a ceiling at all. And so they
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Speaker 3: fed you this bill of lies that hey, this is
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Speaker 3: responsible spending, We're going to curb the debt, and it
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Speaker 3: had no there was no limit to it. There was
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Speaker 3: no end to the debt in that bill. And so
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Speaker 3: I just like to call it like I see it
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Speaker 3: called the ball. Yes, one hundred percent was a Republican
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Speaker 3: led bill, but Democrats they voted voted for it together.
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Speaker 3: But that's why the cost of goods keep going up
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Speaker 3: is because your tax dollars, your the money that the
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Speaker 3: government spending is too much. And in fact, we did
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Speaker 3: a bill last year where the US government was going
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Speaker 3: to borrow money from China to pay Taiwan. Like I'm
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Speaker 3: not a mathematician, but that doesn't add up, right, And
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Speaker 3: so I called both sides out when they need the
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Speaker 3: same thing. With women's issues, you know, nothing's been done
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Speaker 3: for women. What have we done, Like do we vote
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Speaker 3: on IVF this year? No, we didn't. Have we done
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Speaker 3: more for contraception, not narrowly enough. And so I just
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Speaker 3: call the politics as I see it, like I want
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Speaker 3: to work, I want to get stuff done. I want
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Speaker 3: to do right by the people that sent me there.
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Speaker 4: How do you deal with like because with your you know,
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Speaker 4: the experience that you had with being a survivor of rape.
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Speaker 4: I know that like you do get a lot of
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Speaker 4: pushback because your pro life and you have a pro
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Speaker 4: life voting record, but you push back on other like
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Speaker 4: exceptions like for abortion. When that conversation happens on the
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Speaker 4: Republican side, that must be a lonely place to be.
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Speaker 4: It's I will tell you it's a little confusing for
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Speaker 4: some people to probably I have.
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Speaker 3: No friends in Washington. It is an extremely lonely experience
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Speaker 3: when you're calling out both sides, or even when you
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Speaker 3: call it members of your own party. When when the
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Speaker 3: crazy Alabama ruling came amount that was anti IVF, I
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Speaker 3: was the first person in Congress in either party to
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Speaker 3: file a bill to protect access to IVF. When the
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Speaker 3: mefipristone and trist to me eighteen cases happened in Texas,
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Speaker 3: I believe I was probably the only Republican to speak
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Speaker 3: out saying how unconstitutional those rulings were, because they were unconstitutional.
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Speaker 3: When the Arizona ruling happened about abortion shortly after Alabama, again,
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Speaker 3: I was leaned in right over that there's a lot
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Speaker 3: of common ground. Ninety eight percent of us agree on
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Speaker 3: IVF the same thing, with exceptions for rape and incests
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Speaker 3: and fetal abnormalities in life of the mother. There's a
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Speaker 3: lot more that we agree on. I'm the only Republican
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Speaker 3: on a pro life list that has an asterisk by
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Speaker 3: their name because I do a lot on birth control
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Speaker 3: and contraceptives and contraception. There's so much middle ground, and
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Speaker 3: there's so much we can do for women together, and
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Speaker 3: yet neither party wants to do it. Like when I
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Speaker 3: and you see it on both sides of the aisle,
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Speaker 3: they just use it as a political wedge. But what
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Speaker 3: have we done for women. What have we done in
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Speaker 3: sensitively for women in the last couple of years, I
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Speaker 3: would argue very little, and so I've been fighting really hard.
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Speaker 3: I have bills that would address domestic violence, rape, incessivoyurism, revenge, porn,
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Speaker 3: a lot of issues, IVF, contraception, birth control. I have
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Speaker 3: a whole portfolio that I've focused on that I believe
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Speaker 3: both sides can agree on because we're not doing enough.
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Speaker 3: We're just further dividing ourselves by having these arguments when
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Speaker 3: there's ninety five percent of the things. Even when you
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Speaker 3: talk about abortion, I'm pro life, but I have a
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Speaker 3: fifteen to twenty week second trimester limit. At some point
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Speaker 3: you got to say this is an infant that deserves life.
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Speaker 3: Most people don't want abortion in the third trimester, but
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Speaker 3: all of us think first or second trimesters. There's even
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Speaker 3: if you're pro choice, you're likely you likely have limitations
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Speaker 3: around the second trimester too. And so I just believe
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of common ground and we're not having
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Speaker 3: those conversations.
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Speaker 4: But do you think there's a kind of like a
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Speaker 4: hoop dream they think that people will find a common
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Speaker 4: ground though, because I look at even like our presidential candidates.
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Speaker 4: I don't see them having common ground on a lot
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Speaker 4: of stuff.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. I am a true believer and I believe that
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Speaker 3: if I work hard enough, I can make a difference
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Speaker 3: in whatever capacity that is. So that's why I will
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Speaker 3: go off on what is the most common sense thing here?
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Speaker 3: And why haven't we done yet? And I call people out,
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Speaker 3: which is why I have tough elections every two years,
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Speaker 3: because I'm constantly saying, well, that's BS, and I curse too.
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Speaker 3: So I just get I am passionate like you are.
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Speaker 3: I mean, you're very passionate. That's my passion.
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Speaker 1: You are Trump supporter.
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Speaker 3: I voted for him?
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Speaker 1: Why wow?
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Speaker 3: Well, I mean in my party, the man who has
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Speaker 3: been leaning on women's issues on the forefront has been Trump.
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Speaker 3: So for the first time in our party's history, he
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Speaker 3: added to our party platform this summer at the Republican
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Speaker 3: Convention IVF that we want to protect IVF, that we
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Speaker 3: want to protect women who are victims of rape, victims
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Speaker 3: of incests, the exceptions that I just spoke about. No
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Speaker 3: one else has done that before. He put in the
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Speaker 3: party platform. We want to protect contraception and contraceptive access.
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Speaker 3: Those are things that had never been done before. And
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Speaker 3: so for me as a woman like I, I have
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Speaker 3: someone that I go to I bend Ezier on women's
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Speaker 3: issues because that's really the thing that I've been harping
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Speaker 3: on the last couple of years, or women's rights. Balancing
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Speaker 3: the pro life with pro woman. I think you can
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Speaker 3: do both because he listened.
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Speaker 1: I heard people say, oh, I heard you say that
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Speaker 1: he listens to you.
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Speaker 3: I'm the woman. Yet I feel like he does listen
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Speaker 3: to me. And then he's taken steps to put those
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Speaker 3: things in the party platform. Despite people saying, well, maybe
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Speaker 3: we don't want to do that, he did it anyway,
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Speaker 3: and I think it's really important that we have someone
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Speaker 3: that isn't beholden to other organizations or big money, that
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Speaker 3: he does what he believes is right. Even if you
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Speaker 3: disagree with him, I think we can all agree he's
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Speaker 3: not really beholden to any one person. He's doing what
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Speaker 3: he thinks is the right thing to do.
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Speaker 1: You might, I don't.
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Speaker 3: I don't know about that. Nobody wants Russia to win,
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Speaker 3: and I just I don't want Russia to win, and
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Speaker 3: I'm a Republican. I think it's the idea is that Porrent,
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Speaker 3: you have this trifecta now with Russia on in China,
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Speaker 3: and it's very dangerous, very dangerous. We've got to stem
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Speaker 3: that tide and break that up. At some point it's
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Speaker 3: going to become a real problem globally.
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Speaker 2: That a narrative has been is Donald Trump is racist.
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Speaker 2: They believe he's a fascist. What's your thoughts on all that.
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Speaker 3: I don't believe so. So I've done a lot of
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Speaker 3: civil rights work. So I had a bill signed into
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Speaker 3: law when I was a state lawmaker. It was a
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Speaker 3: prison reform bill for women, and I modeled it after
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Speaker 3: the First Step Act that Trump signed into law prison
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Speaker 3: reform bill in December of twenty eighteen, and it was
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Speaker 3: bipartisan and when you look at the impact of that,
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Speaker 3: it's improved the lives of ninety percent of the individuals
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Speaker 3: that has helped improve we're black Americans. So I don't
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Speaker 3: believe that he's racist at all. And I know that
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Speaker 3: his campaign is an outreach to the black community as
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Speaker 3: part of their campaign apparatus and advertising and all those things,
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Speaker 3: something that a lot of Republicans haven't traditionally haven't traditionally done.
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Speaker 3: It's important I know that y'all have had Lara Trump
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Speaker 3: on here Byron Donald and Candice Owens. You've had people
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Speaker 3: that support him, Nikki Haley that have supported him on here,
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Speaker 3: and I think it's really important that we that we
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Speaker 3: have Republicans that will go and talk to untraditional maybe audiences.
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Speaker 3: It's really important that we do that out. Rachel Trump
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Speaker 3: is led the way for the party in that.
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Speaker 1: Hate him.
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Speaker 3: Behind the scenes, maybe some do. Yeah, I mean, she's family.
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Speaker 3: She can't say it that she felt like it. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean I don't. I mean, I have seen the
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Speaker 3: way that he has worked the party on issues that
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Speaker 3: I care about. I think it's really important that Americans
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Speaker 3: know that he really wants the best for our country
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Speaker 3: and it's people. You don't have to agree with his
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Speaker 3: approach or how he does it, but I do believe
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Speaker 3: he wears his heart on his sleeve and he's passionate
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Speaker 3: about making a difference. And I've seen that and I've
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Speaker 3: you know, the first step back was a bill that
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Speaker 3: one provision in that bill was to restrain women who
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Speaker 3: were giving birth that they were in the prison system.
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Speaker 3: It used to be that you were restrained to the
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Speaker 3: bed while you were giving birth. That is a terrible
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Speaker 3: way to bring a child into this world. So I
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Speaker 3: did a bill for women. Yeah, well it used to
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Speaker 3: be before the First Step Back. For example, one of
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Speaker 3: the provisions in it or that women were restrained while
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Speaker 3: giving birth if they were pregnant in prison. They were
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Speaker 3: like and jail, yeah, yeah, and jail restrained. So they went,
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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know a woman who's gonna run
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Speaker 3: away when she's giving birth and having contractions. That's just
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Speaker 3: not a thing. Not a thing. But I modeled some
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Speaker 3: legislation after what he did, and that was bipartisan and
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Speaker 3: and the folks that have benefited ninety percent of them
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Speaker 3: were Black Americans from the First Step Act. And I
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Speaker 3: think he would do more of that if and when
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Speaker 3: he's reelected.
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Speaker 1: I made that up to about them matinglind Of scenes.
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Speaker 3: I don't feel I have. Yeah, but listen, people talk crap. Well,
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Speaker 3: this is politics. Politics is a blood sport. People talk
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Speaker 3: stuff all the time.
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Speaker 5: That's the thing that scares me the most, right because
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Speaker 5: everybody so far right, everybody so far left. When you
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Speaker 5: listen to the n when you're not even a narrative
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Speaker 5: and you listen to the language that a lot of
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Speaker 5: people on the right use, it does sound big.
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Speaker 1: It does sound sexist.
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Speaker 5: So I wonder if the lawmakers, if y'all will be
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Speaker 5: able to get things actually done if y'all are so
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Speaker 5: at odds with each other.
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Speaker 3: But there are some bigoted, insectist things from the left.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Mark Cuban Yestrey said that women who support
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Speaker 3: Trump aren't intelligent or strong. I would tell you I'm
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Speaker 3: pretty damn strong, and I think I'm pretty intelligent. Like
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Speaker 3: this week, like I'm in the middle of my my reelection,
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Speaker 3: but the messages my campaign is getting calling me garbage,
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Speaker 3: calling me a Nazi, people saying they want to see
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Speaker 3: me floating in the Atlantic and they want to murder
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Speaker 3: my dog. I mean, so the rhetoric rhetoric, though, but
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Speaker 3: both sides are using rhetoric that ratches it up. So
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Speaker 3: I do believe we need to calm down on the rhetoric.
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Speaker 3: It does there's a reason why there's political violence. And
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Speaker 3: I will tell you, in four years, I've had my
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Speaker 3: home vandalized three times. I've had my car keyed twice.
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Speaker 3: My kids and I we've had horrible threats made on
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Speaker 3: my family almost daily. But I know that my colleagues
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Speaker 3: across the aisle, they get the same thing. I mean,
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Speaker 3: it's happening all the time, and it needs to stop.
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Speaker 3: At some point, we got to say time out. And
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Speaker 3: I think a lot of it's related to social media.
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Speaker 3: Like the downfall of society and stability right now is
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Speaker 3: there are a bunch of keyboard warriors who can say anything,
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Speaker 3: and at some point someone who's a little un hinge
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Speaker 3: is going to take that verbatim and it's going to
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Speaker 3: go out and do that. I mean, it's someone tried
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Speaker 3: to shoot Donald Trump, someone took a hammer to Nancy
16:19
Speaker 3: Pelosi's husband's head. I mean, these things happen. They're happening
16:22
Speaker 3: on you see, it happen on both sides of the aisle.
16:25
Speaker 3: Last couple of years. It's happening everywhere. Unfortunately.
16:28
Speaker 5: What's the difference between MAGA and traditional conservatives? Because I
16:33
Speaker 5: feel like maga's the issue that I feel like a
16:36
Speaker 5: lot of this started happening when Donald Trump came around
16:38
Speaker 5: in twenty sixteen and ramped up a lot of the rhetoric.
16:41
Speaker 5: I don't think MAGA and traditional conservatives are the same thing.
16:44
Speaker 5: Why what's the difference?
16:45
Speaker 3: Well, I mean you have progressives in the Democrat Party
16:48
Speaker 3: and then more left of center or traditional Democrats. I
16:51
Speaker 3: think that some of the progressive movement is pretty far,
16:55
Speaker 3: pretty far extreme, pretty far out there too, and so
16:58
Speaker 3: I think that there are different pockets. We have the
17:02
Speaker 3: the warhawk column, we have the Maga column, we have libertarians,
17:07
Speaker 3: we have right of center, we have traditional conservatives, if
17:11
Speaker 3: you will. We do have different pockets in our party
17:14
Speaker 3: with different ideology, much like Democrats do. There's similarities there,
17:19
Speaker 3: but it's populism. I mean, he says a lot that
17:21
Speaker 3: people I think is on their mind. They're feeling, and
17:24
Speaker 3: I think it's this, it's this US versus the establishment,
17:27
Speaker 3: and he is tapped into the people, the populace, the
17:31
Speaker 3: US part of it. People feel like the government isn't
17:35
Speaker 3: working for them, and they're right. I mean, if you
17:38
Speaker 3: see the crap that we put up with the egos
17:42
Speaker 3: that are in Washington, just because person X doesn't like
17:45
Speaker 3: person why that bill might not not ever get a vote.
17:48
Speaker 3: I mean, we did it. We held a contempt vote
17:50
Speaker 3: a couple of months ago, and in the Oversight Committee
17:53
Speaker 3: they were arguing about eyelashes. I mean, and so you
17:56
Speaker 3: see it and you're just like, what are we doing.
17:58
Speaker 3: We're not doing the work of the people here. I
18:00
Speaker 3: want to work. I want to pass bills. I want
18:02
Speaker 3: to get things done. I want to deliver results, and
18:04
Speaker 3: you have to when you're in a divided Congress, you
18:07
Speaker 3: have to find ways to work together. I mean, I've
18:09
Speaker 3: got three bills sitting in the Senate right now, but
18:11
Speaker 3: because I have an R by my name, they'll probably
18:13
Speaker 3: never see the light of day. Unfortunately. Maybe that's just
18:16
Speaker 3: the way the world works right now.
18:18
Speaker 5: And that's what I mean, Like, you know, because of
18:20
Speaker 5: all of the division, how can our lawmakers being are
18:23
Speaker 5: they able to work together? Are there so much division
18:26
Speaker 5: even in Congress that they can't get nothing done for people?
18:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think in some cases we are. Again, I'll
18:31
Speaker 3: go back to Rocana. Rowe and I have done a
18:32
Speaker 3: lot of legislation together. But again it's getting both sides
18:37
Speaker 3: to say we're going to work together, we're going to
18:39
Speaker 3: do something, but instead they use you know, one bill
18:42
Speaker 3: will be used as a as a as a bargaining
18:44
Speaker 3: chip for another one, and then things get very messy.
18:47
Speaker 3: So it's they're not doing the work of the people.
18:50
Speaker 3: It's just like so take cannabis, for example, the vast
18:53
Speaker 3: majority of Americans want cannabis reform. They want it done.
18:56
Speaker 3: Safe banking is the easiest, most logical thing. But somebody
19:00
Speaker 3: wants somebody wants something in the bill, they want to
19:03
Speaker 3: add something into it. They can't get it, so they're
19:04
Speaker 3: just gonna stop it. Right. And so for the longest
19:07
Speaker 3: time we've been saying that we're gonna get it done.
19:09
Speaker 3: Nothing's happening, right, And it's all because of ego, And
19:12
Speaker 3: it's because I want my own I'm not gonna do
19:15
Speaker 3: going to do right by the people that elected me.
19:17
Speaker 3: I don't put up with that. I just I have folks,
19:20
Speaker 3: when you work against me, I call you out. I
19:22
Speaker 3: go to the press and I say what's going on?
19:23
Speaker 3: And I get in trouble for that. But I also
19:26
Speaker 3: don't like the bs that goes on in Washington. A
19:28
Speaker 3: lot of lies, and you have people like you had
19:31
Speaker 3: Kim Cheadle, for example, that came down before the Oversight
19:34
Speaker 3: Committee and very bipartisan hearing. Everybody wanted her to go,
19:37
Speaker 3: but she literally came down and wouldn't answer a single question.
19:40
Speaker 3: And I think in part it was maybe in part
19:42
Speaker 3: because the FBI and Homeland Security they wouldn't give her
19:45
Speaker 3: the information because they knew she was going to testify.
19:47
Speaker 3: But again it's like it's the people versus DC, and
19:50
Speaker 3: I think you know that's how progressives tap into the people.
19:53
Speaker 3: There's that movement there, but people feel disenfranchised. They feel
19:56
Speaker 3: like their voices aren't being heard. And it's only worse
20:00
Speaker 3: because DC ignores what the vast majority of people want.
20:04
Speaker 3: The vast majority of people want IVF protected. Why can't
20:08
Speaker 3: we do a bill together. I've got a great bill.
20:12
Speaker 3: We've got Republicans and Democrats alike that are doing legislation,
20:16
Speaker 3: no votes on it. That's just one example. Like that
20:18
Speaker 3: is the will of the people. It's not getting done.
20:21
Speaker 3: So it's my job to call people out when they
20:22
Speaker 3: don't deliver.
20:23
Speaker 5: So question, if Vice President Kamala Harris wins right and
20:26
Speaker 5: she wants to legalize marijuana, would Republicans in Congress vote
20:30
Speaker 5: for it? I would they say no because it's a
20:31
Speaker 5: democratic president.
20:32
Speaker 3: I don't think it matters. I mean, there are some
20:34
Speaker 3: of us, not all Republicans are for it. I actually
20:37
Speaker 3: have a bill that would be a federal reform. It
20:39
Speaker 3: it's descheduling in order to do cannabis. You have reschedulings,
20:43
Speaker 3: okay for now, but you have to deschedule it and
20:46
Speaker 3: decriminalize it, and at any rate. So I have a
20:49
Speaker 3: bill for that, doesn't matter who's president. If I can,
20:51
Speaker 3: if that can become law, I would support it. But
20:54
Speaker 3: not every Republican supports cannabis. There are fewer of us
20:58
Speaker 3: that do. I'm one of them that does. But I've
21:00
Speaker 3: worked with both sides on cannabis. I've worked with both
21:03
Speaker 3: sides on issues related to mass violence, for example, women's issues.
21:07
Speaker 3: There is a lot of common ground, but you have
21:09
Speaker 3: to have the courage to actually raise your hand and
21:11
Speaker 3: say we're gonna do this work, no matter even if
21:14
Speaker 3: it costs me my next race. We need to do
21:17
Speaker 3: it because it's right for the people. And there's just
21:19
Speaker 3: not a lot of that in Washington.
21:21
Speaker 5: Talked us about just byparties and boarder bill that Republicans
21:24
Speaker 5: and Democrats agreed upon in the Senate, and then.
21:29
Speaker 1: Trump said, no, I don't do it. Why didn't that
21:31
Speaker 1: get done?
21:31
Speaker 3: Well, it never passed out of the Senate, and so
21:34
Speaker 3: I did to that bill. We never voted on it
21:36
Speaker 3: in the House. The House actually sent over HR two,
21:40
Speaker 3: which was a conservative border security bill, in May of
21:43
Speaker 3: last year. Schumer put it in a desk hit it away,
21:46
Speaker 3: chucked it in a drawer like happens all the time.
21:48
Speaker 3: And again, don't be wrong, both sides do it when
21:50
Speaker 3: they're in charge. But that bill came through the Senate,
21:54
Speaker 3: but it never passed the Senate, so it never even
21:55
Speaker 3: got to the House. So in that particular bill, and
21:59
Speaker 3: I read it with my staff, like the debt ceiling bill,
22:01
Speaker 3: there were good ideas in the debt ceiling bill, but
22:03
Speaker 3: on the next page you would see, oh, there's the
22:05
Speaker 3: loophole that totally skirts around the good idea. That bill
22:08
Speaker 3: was the same way. So it was essentially when you
22:11
Speaker 3: read it, there'd be a good idea on page one,
22:13
Speaker 3: but then on page two there was a loophole that
22:16
Speaker 3: would give Secretary my Orcis, for example, carte blanche to
22:19
Speaker 3: do whatever he wanted. There were loopholes on every other
22:21
Speaker 3: page and so it really wasn't worth the paper it
22:23
Speaker 3: was printed on. Wasn't going to do what it was intended.
22:26
Speaker 3: And one of the I think fascinating lies about that
22:29
Speaker 3: bill is that it was technically a mass amnesty bill.
22:31
Speaker 3: And the other thing that they said that they claimed
22:33
Speaker 3: the bill did both sides said, and it wasn't true
22:35
Speaker 3: that if more than five thousand people crossed the border illegally,
22:39
Speaker 3: they would shut the border down. Raise your hand if
22:42
Speaker 3: you've ever seen the border shut down. It's never it's
22:46
Speaker 3: never been shut down, and it's never going to be
22:48
Speaker 3: shut down unless you have a wall on gates that
22:50
Speaker 3: people have to go through like other foreign countries. But
22:53
Speaker 3: it's never been. That's not a thing. So again, it's
22:57
Speaker 3: like it's fuzzy math. It's telling in there that isn't true.
23:01
Speaker 3: And my problem is the lack of honesty, the lack
23:04
Speaker 3: of integrity, and the lack of truth. Just tell the
23:07
Speaker 3: people the truth and then they can decide for themselves
23:10
Speaker 3: if that bill really is what you say it is,
23:13
Speaker 3: because oftentimes it's not. What Washington likes to do too,
23:16
Speaker 3: is they'll title a bill, oh, this is rainbows and
23:19
Speaker 3: unicorns for all people, and then you read it has
23:22
Speaker 3: nothing to do with rainbows and unicorns, right, And so
23:24
Speaker 3: there's just a lot of I think performance and magic.
23:30
Speaker 3: You know, it's just it's not what it is, and
23:32
Speaker 3: so I like to call it out. I'll read through
23:34
Speaker 3: the bills and say this is what it does, and
23:36
Speaker 3: this is what it does not do, with no flourishes.
23:40
Speaker 3: Just this is just black and white. This is what
23:42
Speaker 3: it is. And I think we need more people that
23:43
Speaker 3: will just this is literally what it does and nothing
23:46
Speaker 3: else and don't put opinion on it. Let the people decide.
23:49
Speaker 4: With the performances like in politics that you're talking about, right, So,
23:52
Speaker 4: like how does it work with you? Like, so, for instance,
23:55
Speaker 4: if Kamala Harris is elected president and you have to
23:58
Speaker 4: work with her, there has been time like the CNA
24:00
Speaker 4: moment where you've like you got in trouble for saying
24:02
Speaker 4: her name wrong and people are upset about that, and
24:05
Speaker 4: then you know that whole thing Kamala doesn't know what
24:07
Speaker 4: a woman is those remarks. How do you then sit
24:10
Speaker 4: with her? Like, do you guys have conversations behind closed
24:12
Speaker 4: doors first to get all that out the way so
24:15
Speaker 4: that you can can work together or does that not
24:17
Speaker 4: even come up? Like how do you remove the performance
24:19
Speaker 4: that happens?
24:20
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm always willing to work with anyone who's
24:22
Speaker 3: willing to work with me, and oftentimes if staff are
24:24
Speaker 3: open to working together, Like I have a rule in
24:26
Speaker 3: my office that we don't we don't block anything if
24:30
Speaker 3: someone wants to do business with us, if someone wants
24:32
Speaker 3: to work with us, regardless of party or political affiliation,
24:34
Speaker 3: we will do it. I mean, I have sponsored bills
24:36
Speaker 3: with progressives, I've sponsored bills with people on the Freedom Caucus,
24:39
Speaker 3: so all the folks. But I mean, in that particular instance,
24:43
Speaker 3: I felt like I was being ganged up on on air.
24:45
Speaker 3: A lot of people haven't been able to say her
24:47
Speaker 3: name right because her name hasn't been in the news
24:49
Speaker 3: every day. I know how to say it now, it's Kamala.
24:51
Speaker 3: I've got it down, I've got it right. But one
24:54
Speaker 3: of my issues too, was was being ganged up on
24:57
Speaker 3: as a woman live on air and then the Hip
24:59
Speaker 3: Hopocracy during the commercial breaks of Hey can I grab
25:03
Speaker 3: a selfie? And you know, I don't mind it, will
25:06
Speaker 3: have the colloqui on air and you do whatever you
25:08
Speaker 3: want to do. But then behind the scenes, you know,
25:10
Speaker 3: send me a kissy emoji, tell me how gorgeous I am,
25:13
Speaker 3: tell me we look good together, and all that whole thing,
25:15
Speaker 3: because it was just kind of an act and you
25:17
Speaker 3: and you know, and so it's like, I'm just going
25:18
Speaker 3: to call it for what it is. I was probably
25:20
Speaker 3: the first person in Congress that entered into the Congressional
25:23
Speaker 3: record at text with a kissy emoji, I just because
25:28
Speaker 3: they kept saying, you know, I was saying I'm racist
25:30
Speaker 3: because I'm saying her name wrong. But Bill Clinton calls
25:33
Speaker 3: her Kamela. Joe Biden says Camela. It's not the right.
25:37
Speaker 4: Yeah, you understand, like the context behind that. I did
25:40
Speaker 4: not that hundred yeah, but as a person that works
25:42
Speaker 4: in civil rights and austin game where they were coming.
25:44
Speaker 3: From, absolutely, absolutely. But I also wasn't going to be
25:47
Speaker 3: bullied like I am a like you can fight her flight.
25:50
Speaker 3: I'm going to fight absolutely, and I will always fight back.
25:55
Speaker 5: It was a mispronunciation when you said her name, want
25:59
Speaker 5: to and I was like, Nancy had a drink.
26:02
Speaker 3: I did not.
26:04
Speaker 1: I did not.
26:04
Speaker 3: But you know, during the commercial breaks, you know it
26:06
Speaker 3: is you're taping and you're doing this, and it was
26:08
Speaker 3: just the hypocrisy was what was grading me because behind
26:11
Speaker 3: the scenes on commercial break, begging for the selfie picture,
26:14
Speaker 3: you know, hitting on me, all that stuff, and I
26:16
Speaker 3: was like, okay, this is.
26:17
Speaker 1: So that happened. Then y'all came back.
26:19
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, it was all going on at the same time,
26:23
Speaker 3: and so that's why I was just like, Okay, it's
26:26
Speaker 3: not okay to label somebody and gang up on them
26:29
Speaker 3: in public, but then have a completely different position in private.
26:34
Speaker 3: I don't like hypocrisy and I don't like people who
26:36
Speaker 3: aren't being honest, and so that's what I do when
26:39
Speaker 3: I call them out. And I'm always if someone's gonna
26:41
Speaker 3: come at me or try to intimidate me, I'm the
26:43
Speaker 3: last one that you should do that too. I'm from
26:46
Speaker 3: Goose Creek, so like you can take the girl ahead
26:48
Speaker 3: of Goose Creek, where you cannot take Goose Creek out
26:51
Speaker 3: of the girl. I'm a fighter and I always will be.
26:52
Speaker 5: Did you see docs he responded to you? And he
26:55
Speaker 5: I mean, that's that is kind. That's just how he
26:57
Speaker 5: talks to people.
26:59
Speaker 3: Wo Maybe he shouldn't. Maybe he should work on that
27:02
Speaker 3: because I think it was highly inappropriate, and I think
27:05
Speaker 3: it's again for me, it was just pointing out the hypocrisy,
27:07
Speaker 3: because I see it all the time in Washington. People
27:09
Speaker 3: will say one thing when they're on air or they're
27:11
Speaker 3: on Twitter, and then privately they're acting like something else,
27:14
Speaker 3: and that's not okay. Rocana is not one of those people.
27:16
Speaker 3: He's what you see is what you get when I
27:18
Speaker 3: talk to him privately. He's the exact same guy on TV,
27:21
Speaker 3: exact same guy. And we need more of that, not less.
27:26
Speaker 5: Talk about the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act because some
27:30
Speaker 5: people say, you know, you say you're a champion of women, but.
27:32
Speaker 1: You voted against that.
27:33
Speaker 3: Yeah, well I voted for a clean reauthorization. So the
27:37
Speaker 3: first one that came through had some I believe, like
27:40
Speaker 3: red flag laws that they were putting into it, and
27:43
Speaker 3: I think we have to balance constitutional Second Amendment rights
27:47
Speaker 3: with violence against women, and so I voted for a
27:50
Speaker 3: clean reauthorization of that bell And in fact, I've gone
27:53
Speaker 3: back since then because when I dove into I just
27:57
Speaker 3: got through a domestic abusive relationship. There was domestic violence,
28:01
Speaker 3: and I went through the system and I was like, wow,
28:04
Speaker 3: this is how women are treated. And I learned about
28:06
Speaker 3: the Violence Against swim and Act, what it did to
28:08
Speaker 3: protect victims' rights, and also what our state does to
28:11
Speaker 3: protect victims rights, and I realized there's even more we
28:14
Speaker 3: can do. So since that time, I have created legislation.
28:17
Speaker 3: One in particular, there's a revenge porn civil tourt within
28:21
Speaker 3: the Violence Against Women Act. But it's only civil. Yeah,
28:25
Speaker 3: it's civil. It's civil, not criminal. So it didn't make
28:28
Speaker 3: it a crime at the federal level. So I have
28:30
Speaker 3: a bill that would fix that. There's a civil tourt
28:32
Speaker 3: that would allow you to have a civil right of
28:34
Speaker 3: action for revenge porn at one hundred and fifty thousand,
28:36
Speaker 3: so I have a bill that would increase it to
28:38
Speaker 3: five hundred thousand. There was nothing in there about voyeurism,
28:42
Speaker 3: so I have a bill. Voyeurism is when you record
28:44
Speaker 3: someone without their knowledge or consent or permission an intimate way.
28:48
Speaker 3: I think Aaron Andrews when she was recorded changing clothes
28:50
Speaker 3: in her hotel room voyeurism, But voyeurism wasn't included in it.
28:54
Speaker 3: So I have legislation that would add a warriorism component,
28:57
Speaker 3: both a civil tourt to be able to sue someone
28:59
Speaker 3: civilly in federal court, and also make it a crime
29:03
Speaker 3: at the federal level. Because voyeurism is only a crime
29:05
Speaker 3: at the federal level for under Title eighteen for the
29:09
Speaker 3: tribal lands and certain maritime jurisdictions aka cruises. So if
29:14
Speaker 3: it's good enough for those areas, let's make it a
29:17
Speaker 3: federal crime everywhere. So I've gone back and I'm doing
29:22
Speaker 3: things to strengthen to actually strengthen it. Now that I've
29:25
Speaker 3: learned so much about how victim's rights are and are
29:28
Speaker 3: not protected, and what it does and does not include.
29:31
Speaker 3: And I like to do small bills that will make
29:33
Speaker 3: a big difference. A lot of times people will do
29:35
Speaker 3: really large, comprehensive bills and they'll put things in there
29:37
Speaker 3: that people can't agree to. I like smaller bills that
29:41
Speaker 3: are up and down. So these are all different pieces
29:43
Speaker 3: of legislation that will hopefully get an up or down vote,
29:46
Speaker 3: and if you disagree on something, you have a chance
29:48
Speaker 3: to say no. I don't like these big Christmas tree bills.
29:50
Speaker 3: But let's do one thing at a time and make
29:53
Speaker 3: have small parts. Small bills make a really big difference.
29:56
Speaker 5: I wonder if the older people in Washington understand things
30:00
Speaker 5: like what you're talking about in regards to like the
30:02
Speaker 5: social media aspect of it all, because we live in.
30:04
Speaker 1: A different world.
30:04
Speaker 3: Yeah.
30:04
Speaker 1: I feel like it should be.
30:05
Speaker 5: A crime to record somebody. It should be against their
30:08
Speaker 5: will if you have sex with them or whatever. They're
30:10
Speaker 5: like revenge point. I feel like those a crime.
30:12
Speaker 3: They should be.
30:13
Speaker 2: They should be taping phone calls all that.
30:15
Speaker 1: I think it's a crime.
30:16
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I mean in the Violence Against Women Act,
30:19
Speaker 3: it only made it a civil tourt, didn't make it
30:20
Speaker 3: a crime at the federal level. Well, I'm I aim
30:23
Speaker 3: to fix that. So well, no, there was there were
30:26
Speaker 3: red flag lows. So you know, so I balance constitutional
30:30
Speaker 3: rights with women's rights all those things. But but but
30:34
Speaker 3: I have different legislation that addresses each of those issues.
30:38
Speaker 3: And I'm doing it separately because there are some people
30:40
Speaker 3: that might vote against it for one reason or another.
30:43
Speaker 3: But I want these bills to have the best chance possible,
30:45
Speaker 3: so I've broken them up. And so I have this
30:47
Speaker 3: portfolio of legislation that would enhance and tighten and strengthen
30:52
Speaker 3: women's rights and protecting women under violence against women, and
30:56
Speaker 3: work on it for a while.
30:57
Speaker 1: See.
30:57
Speaker 5: I understand that because I think about you know, when
31:00
Speaker 5: they talk about Bernie Sanders and why they said Bernie
31:02
Speaker 5: Bernie voted. I think he voted for the ninety four
31:05
Speaker 5: crime bill. I forgot what bill it was, but he
31:06
Speaker 5: voted for it. But the reason he said he voted
31:09
Speaker 5: for it wasn't because of the crime bill, was because
31:10
Speaker 5: of something else that was in it was some type
31:12
Speaker 5: of violence against women.
31:13
Speaker 1: That my point with that is, yeah, you'll see the
31:14
Speaker 1: big bill.
31:15
Speaker 5: Presented, but it's like these little smaller things inside of
31:18
Speaker 5: them that you actually have to read to.
31:19
Speaker 1: I guess know whether you agree with the whole thing.
31:21
Speaker 1: I don't think that's right.
31:22
Speaker 3: Yeah, I prefer not to have these giant bills. Let's
31:25
Speaker 3: have up or down he votes on him, so that
31:28
Speaker 3: you can see you have the best chance of it passing.
31:30
Speaker 3: When you do these massive bills, things get snuck in
31:34
Speaker 3: and you're like, what did we just pay for? I mean,
31:37
Speaker 3: why did you do that? Though I don't know, we
31:40
Speaker 3: have these, we have these giant spending bills, these continuing
31:42
Speaker 3: resolutions or omnibuses. The DC will manufacture some sort of crisis.
31:47
Speaker 3: Everyone's going to shut down if we don't do this.
31:49
Speaker 3: And so then they have these giant spending bills and
31:51
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, you realize your tax dollars are
31:53
Speaker 3: going to pay for trans kid clothing. I mean, things
31:56
Speaker 3: that most people would not want to want. I agree
32:00
Speaker 3: with or you know these this is what happened last year.
32:03
Speaker 3: It's just what did we just spend money on. I
32:06
Speaker 3: support I voted for gay marriage twice, but I don't
32:09
Speaker 3: think you should be spending federal government money on just
32:12
Speaker 3: gay nursing homes, I think go to all nursing homes, right,
32:15
Speaker 3: Why are we just specifying, yeah, there was a million
32:19
Speaker 3: dollars last year. I mean I don't know there was
32:20
Speaker 3: a thing. There are gay nursing homes apparently, but you watch.
32:26
Speaker 3: I don't want I don't want taxes. I don't want
32:29
Speaker 3: tax dollars paying to incentivize illegal immigration. I mean there's
32:32
Speaker 3: just you know, there's just things that I think, common
32:35
Speaker 3: sense wise, we don't need to be paying for. Government
32:37
Speaker 3: doesn't even be paying for sex change surgery. I mean,
32:39
Speaker 3: just those things will get stuffed in there if you
32:42
Speaker 3: don't read the fine print. And that's why I vote
32:45
Speaker 3: against almost all of the fine print when it comes
32:47
Speaker 3: to the big spending bills, because they're just ridiculous things
32:50
Speaker 3: in there that you and I, both sides would say.
32:52
Speaker 3: The average bear would be like the average person, like
32:54
Speaker 3: why are we doing this? Why do we vote for that?
32:57
Speaker 5: I would love to talk to somebody from the LGBTQ community,
32:59
Speaker 5: and why do they need a gay assisted living community?
33:02
Speaker 5: I just I just want to know, like, like, what's
33:03
Speaker 5: the difference between a gay assisted living community and a
33:06
Speaker 5: regular one?
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Speaker 1: Maybe it's getting up in age.
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Speaker 5: I will send you, but I don't want to know why.
33:11
Speaker 1: What's the difference.
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Speaker 3: I don't understand. Let's just if you're going to do
33:15
Speaker 3: one thing for one sector, just do it for all.
33:17
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, I like no taxes on tips,
33:19
Speaker 3: I like no taxes on social security. Let's just reduce
33:22
Speaker 3: all taxes for everybody. We all are all a big
33:25
Speaker 3: fan of keeping more of our harnder dollars to then
33:28
Speaker 3: reinvest into the economy.
33:30
Speaker 4: I looked it up, and the reason why you have
33:32
Speaker 4: it is because as people of the LGBTQ plus community
33:36
Speaker 4: get older, they face different things like discrimination, like some
33:39
Speaker 4: nursing homes won't let same sex partners come and visit them.
33:42
Speaker 3: Just the culture shift. So just well that's crazy because
33:46
Speaker 3: that whatever state has that law, we need to fix it.
33:50
Speaker 3: The government shouldn't tell you one who to love.
33:52
Speaker 4: And I mean that's and people want to live in
33:56
Speaker 4: a community where they can feel accepted and they don't
33:58
Speaker 4: have to hide who they are, because they're are still
34:00
Speaker 4: numbers of communities that you know, there are people that
34:03
Speaker 4: hide their sexuality up until this age. Yeah, so it's
34:08
Speaker 4: I mean, it sounds like a good idea to me,
34:11
Speaker 4: what to.
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Speaker 1: Have with It's the whole facility. Yeah, I think not.
34:14
Speaker 1: I think that you should have laws that probably.
34:18
Speaker 4: You have laws that should.
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Speaker 3: The federal government pay for it? I think it is
34:22
Speaker 3: the bottom line I would argue, no, I think private
34:25
Speaker 3: entity sort of thing.
34:27
Speaker 4: The only reason why I would not agree is because
34:30
Speaker 4: there are laws that protect people in the LGBTQ plus
34:32
Speaker 4: community from certain things every day right now, and the
34:35
Speaker 4: discrimination still happens. So it's like just putting a long
34:38
Speaker 4: place doesn't always work, but having a place where you
34:40
Speaker 4: feel community might work.
34:41
Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 3: So I've worked on legislation to support the LGBT community,
34:45
Speaker 3: so I don't I don't have it with laws. They're
34:47
Speaker 3: everyone human rights, basic civil rights, et cetera. But from
34:50
Speaker 3: my perspective, I don't want the government paying for that.
34:54
Speaker 3: That should be something done in the private sector, not
34:56
Speaker 3: a government run thing or government funded thing. It should
34:59
Speaker 3: be done.
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Speaker 4: With when things like the private sector, though, isn't it
35:04
Speaker 4: less money there? Like it's harder, like funding is less.
35:06
Speaker 3: I think it's actually more efficient because when the government,
35:09
Speaker 3: when the federal government gets involved, things become slower, more archaic,
35:13
Speaker 3: they're more regulations, which means the cost of it goes
35:16
Speaker 3: up because we burd an industry with enormous regulations. Every
35:22
Speaker 3: time there is a new regulation, the cost of doing
35:25
Speaker 3: business increases, making the end cost the consumer more expensive.
35:29
Speaker 3: And that's the way it is in healthcare, medicine, our defense,
35:34
Speaker 3: the cost for us to build a navy warship versus
35:37
Speaker 3: other countries. Because of the bureaucracy and the red tape
35:41
Speaker 3: that we jump through to do things, we're slower, we're
35:45
Speaker 3: more expensive. And if we operated more like a business,
35:47
Speaker 3: we'd be more efficient with tax dollars, we'd be more nimble,
35:50
Speaker 3: we'd be faster and more innovative too. And I think
35:53
Speaker 3: it's across the board and.
35:55
Speaker 1: What you just read, Laurence.
35:56
Speaker 5: Shouldn't all minorities be able to get their own anything
35:59
Speaker 5: and let the government pay for it? Then, because we
36:00
Speaker 5: all experienced bias, we all experienced prejudice women.
36:04
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that's I mean, we we do ask for
36:07
Speaker 4: that right. It doesn't always happen, but yeah, I think so,
36:10
Speaker 4: Like there are certain things that I feel like in
36:11
Speaker 4: certain communities that are specific to a certain communities should
36:15
Speaker 4: be funded by the government and given money to by
36:17
Speaker 4: the government the same way we like h you're talking about.
36:20
Speaker 5: I talking about as far as like the gay assisted
36:22
Speaker 5: living thing, you said it's because of the bias, and.
36:26
Speaker 1: What about us as black people? What about women?
36:29
Speaker 3: Like I'm not disagreeing with you. I think it's I
36:31
Speaker 3: don't want to be an assisted living home when I
36:33
Speaker 3: get older. And just for the record, I don't know.
36:35
Speaker 3: I don't think I'm want to take care of myself.
36:37
Speaker 3: You have to. You can't take care of somebody. Gotta
36:39
Speaker 3: take care of you, your kids.
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Speaker 4: But hopefully, but if you get to that point where
36:44
Speaker 4: you need to go to an existent assistant living home
36:45
Speaker 4: because you don't have anybody, wouldn't it be nice to
36:47
Speaker 4: feel like this is these are my people?
36:49
Speaker 1: You want to be a black one is what you say.
36:51
Speaker 4: Hyeah, But no, I'm gonna have my twins.
36:56
Speaker 3: They're gonna take care of me.
36:57
Speaker 1: She doesn't have yet, not yet.
36:59
Speaker 3: I haven't. My kids will take care and I keep
37:01
Speaker 3: telling them they're teenagers right now.
37:03
Speaker 1: I got six of them, so one of them.
37:04
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness.
37:05
Speaker 1: You're the first district seat in South Carolina.
37:08
Speaker 5: What's the top issues in the district because we're on
37:10
Speaker 5: the ninety three jams in South Carolina.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so inflation and spending when you go to the
37:15
Speaker 3: grocery store at carton of eggs is going to cost
37:17
Speaker 3: you six or seven dollars gallon and milk is up.
37:19
Speaker 3: Everything's up, baby formula a huge gas. Everything's more expensive.
37:25
Speaker 3: And so that's that's on the ballot right now. I'm
37:28
Speaker 3: in a purple district. I mean it's very swing district,
37:30
Speaker 3: but as the number one issue for voters. The second
37:33
Speaker 3: issue is the immigration issue. We've had issues with fentanyl
37:37
Speaker 3: in South Carolina. We're having an issue right now with
37:40
Speaker 3: the Charleston County Sheriff Kristin Graziano letting these criminals back
37:45
Speaker 3: out onto the street, including Justice Sweek Ice picked up
37:48
Speaker 3: a guy who was charged with sex crimes. It was
37:50
Speaker 3: in South Carolina illegally she let back out on the street.
37:53
Speaker 3: Doesn't help Ice. The one of the last illegals she
37:56
Speaker 3: let out in Charleston County in August. He was in
37:59
Speaker 3: a pedophile who tried to pay to have sex with
38:02
Speaker 3: a kid twice. So illegal immigration is absolutely on the
38:06
Speaker 3: bout it. It's an eighty twenty issue. Republicans and Democrats
38:09
Speaker 3: agree with about it about eighty percent of the time. Together.
38:12
Speaker 3: Women's issues, abortion and women's rights is absolutely on the
38:17
Speaker 3: ballot in my district, and I've worked really hard on
38:20
Speaker 3: all of those things. I blame Republicans and Democrats for
38:23
Speaker 3: inflation because neither one want to take responsibility. They're all
38:27
Speaker 3: drunk with spending. They're spending way more than we have,
38:30
Speaker 3: way more than than taxpayers give them. And then on
38:32
Speaker 3: the immigration issue, and you've got one side that wants amnesty,
38:35
Speaker 3: the other one once a while, but there's a lot
38:36
Speaker 3: of common ground in the middle and nothing, very little
38:39
Speaker 3: has been done about it over the last couple of years.
38:41
Speaker 3: And then women's issues. I've been the most vocal Republican
38:45
Speaker 3: on women's issues in the country. I would argue it's
38:47
Speaker 3: really important for my party to show women that we care,
38:52
Speaker 3: and it's been lonely, but I've been working really hard
38:55
Speaker 3: to show that you can, you can be both pro
38:57
Speaker 3: life and pro woman and do the right thing and again,
39:00
Speaker 3: and there's so much middle ground that we're unwilling to
39:03
Speaker 3: recognize that both sides are unwilling to recognize. But I'm
39:05
Speaker 3: doing it all the time. I'm doing it till I'm
39:07
Speaker 3: blue in the face because it means for me, women's
39:09
Speaker 3: issues it's not political, it's personal. Because of my trauma,
39:13
Speaker 3: my personal trauma that I've had in life. I want
39:16
Speaker 3: to fix the system.
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Speaker 5: And you call it drunkward spending, right, Yeah, What do
39:20
Speaker 5: you say to see who say, you know, they got
39:22
Speaker 5: all this money for war, they got all this money
39:24
Speaker 5: for the border, but they don't.
39:25
Speaker 1: Ever have money for US American people. What do you
39:28
Speaker 1: say to them?
39:30
Speaker 3: It's it's it's bs is what it is. It's bullshit.
39:33
Speaker 3: I mean I talked to a family the other day
39:35
Speaker 3: that had a place in Tennessee. They applied for the
39:38
Speaker 3: seven hundred and fifty dollars thing and they got turned
39:40
Speaker 3: down within an hour and they have thousands of dollars
39:42
Speaker 3: of damage at their property. You know, but this stuff
39:46
Speaker 3: goes on like you know. I've got a bill right
39:48
Speaker 3: now that we're going to vote on when we're back
39:50
Speaker 3: in session. Both Republicans and Democrats alike voted for about
39:54
Speaker 3: one point four or five billion dollars for FEMA that
39:57
Speaker 3: would go to a shelter and services program to house
40:00
Speaker 3: and feed illegal immigrants. That is a thing. It's a fact.
40:02
Speaker 3: They voted on it twice. So I have a bill
40:05
Speaker 3: that would take if there were any unspent funds from
40:07
Speaker 3: that bucket in that FEMA budget that would then go
40:11
Speaker 3: to Hurricane Helene and Hurricane Milton victims. That would be
40:14
Speaker 3: common sense, that would be the right thing to do.
40:17
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to do my part in a common
40:19
Speaker 3: sense way.
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Speaker 5: Well, so tomorrow's election day, So what's your message of people.
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Speaker 3: We're asking people to get out and have their voices
40:28
Speaker 3: heard and to vote, and we need as many people
40:31
Speaker 3: to come out and vote on election day. It's your
40:33
Speaker 3: right as a citizen and we want to make sure
40:36
Speaker 3: that your voices are heard. The polls open at seven
40:38
Speaker 3: am and close at seven pm in South Carolina.
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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, good luck, Thank you Nancy Mace, Ladies
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Speaker 2: and gentlemen, and we appreciate.
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Speaker 1: You for joining us.
40:46
Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for having me.
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