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Another Brewing ‘Love Island’ Controversy: TiTi Allegedly Threatened To Shoot Romantic Rival · I Do, Part 2

• 0:02
  Speaker 1: And the folks. It is Tuesday, June thirtieth, and are
• 0:05
  Speaker 1: you kidding me? Are we really about to go through
• 0:08
  Speaker 1: this again? Is Love Island going to have to kick
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: off another islander? And with that, welcome to this episode
• 0:17
  Speaker 1: of Amy and TJ. I guess I should start with this.
• 0:19
  Speaker 1: Nobody said the N word, woo, it's just, you know.
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: A threat of violence.
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: Other than that, Okay, is this real? We need to
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: start with where we're getting this reporting, Robes.
• 0:29
  Speaker 3: I think that's really an important part of this because
• 0:31
  Speaker 3: this is just starting to break right now. But TMZ
• 0:36
  Speaker 3: is reporting that they have seen they have obtained a
• 0:39
  Speaker 3: twoy eighteen restraining order against TT.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: That's how we know her. But her name is Tierra Davis.
• 0:48
  Speaker 3: Of course, she is the Casa Amoor bombshell that Casey
• 0:54
  Speaker 3: brought back with him and is.
• 0:55
  Speaker 1: Now playing quite prominently and importantly Robes in the storyline.
• 0:59
  Speaker 1: She's in the middle of everything.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: She certainly is.
• 1:01
  Speaker 3: And when she came back to the villa with well,
• 1:04
  Speaker 3: I should say, arm in arm with Casey, she came
• 1:07
  Speaker 3: in ready to fight, ready to defend her man.
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: And so now when.
• 1:13
  Speaker 3: We're hearing some of these reports, we're like, hmm, maybe
• 1:16
  Speaker 3: I see where some of that passion is coming from.
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  Speaker 1: And I know we look for years. They are an
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  Speaker 1: entertainment website that breaks news. This is an entertainment website
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  Speaker 1: Robes that is now gained footing as a legit news
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  Speaker 1: source because they have over time. I can't remember what
• 1:34
  Speaker 1: story it was, but it was one they got wrong
• 1:36
  Speaker 1: and they followed up and said, we got this one wrong.
• 1:38
  Speaker 1: But that doesn't happen that often. So when you hear
• 1:41
  Speaker 1: something from TMZ Robes, it does carry legitimate weight. This
• 1:45
  Speaker 1: isn't just some throwaway story. So Robes when they say
• 1:48
  Speaker 1: they got their hands on it and they say this
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  Speaker 1: is real generally speaking, according to their track record, we
• 1:53
  Speaker 1: should be listening to them.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, Harvey Levin has been very transparent when they have
• 1:56
  Speaker 3: gotten it wrong, but more often than not, they get
• 1:59
  Speaker 3: it right. And so this report says that Tiara Tierra excuse.
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: Me, was seventeen.
• 2:07
  Speaker 3: I believe that's how old she would have been at
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  Speaker 3: the time of this restraining order. And it alleges that
• 2:13
  Speaker 3: Titi threatened to assault and even to shoot another girl
• 2:19
  Speaker 3: all over a man, an ex boyfriend. And the thing is,
• 2:24
  Speaker 3: if there's any truth.
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  Speaker 2: To that, why in God's name.
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  Speaker 3: Would you want to someone who has shown that type
• 2:32
  Speaker 3: of behavior, no matter how young she was at the time,
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  Speaker 3: no matter how many years ago, to have that person
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  Speaker 3: then be on a dating show where it's all about
• 2:41
  Speaker 3: stealing each other's man.
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: You can't do this, right if this is true, Layton, Well, you.
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  Speaker 2: Couldn't risk.
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  Speaker 3: Of her emotional reaction to something if she's already shown
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  Speaker 3: that she's willing to threaten violence to another or towards
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  Speaker 3: another woman over a man.
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  Speaker 2: That is such a part of the.
• 3:03
  Speaker 3: Dynamic in the villa, and you're they are pitting women
• 3:06
  Speaker 3: against one another and men against one another competing for
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  Speaker 3: a love interest. So that seems like a powder keg
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  Speaker 3: of a situation to have someone walk into with that
• 3:15
  Speaker 3: kind of alleged history.
• 3:17
  Speaker 1: I guess then robes what you're saying absolutely one hundred
• 3:21
  Speaker 1: percent the other part of it. If none of this
• 3:24
  Speaker 1: is true, the optics demand they still pull her from
• 3:27
  Speaker 1: the show like this could be nothing. It could have
• 3:31
  Speaker 1: been wrong, it could have been untrue, it could have
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: been vindictive by somebody, and none of this ever actually helps.
• 3:36
  Speaker 1: But I'm saying, even if all of this is false,
• 3:40
  Speaker 1: if truly a restraining order was filed against her ropes
• 3:45
  Speaker 1: just the optics of it. You have to remove Titi
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  Speaker 1: from the island. You have to just under the appearance
• 3:54
  Speaker 1: of you including somebody in a show who has threatened
• 3:57
  Speaker 1: violence against a potential romantic rival. She's got to go, bro,
• 4:02
  Speaker 1: how do what else can they do? This is I'm
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  Speaker 1: saying optics right, And look.
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  Speaker 2: Here's the deal to what you're saying.
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  Speaker 3: If producers had known about this, had found this ahead
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  Speaker 3: of time when they were doing their vetting, they never.
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  Speaker 2: Would have included her in the cast. We know that
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  Speaker 2: is absolutely true.
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  Speaker 3: But it's so interesting, babe. As you were saying this,
• 4:25
  Speaker 3: you know what I immediately thought of Taylor Frankie Paul. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: And that wasn't just a threat of violence. That wasn't
• 4:33
  Speaker 3: just someone saying there was a threat. We actually have
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  Speaker 3: video of there being actual physical violence. And there is
• 4:41
  Speaker 3: word that ABC is going to put the Bachelor or
• 4:46
  Speaker 3: the Bachelorette season up with her on it shortly because
• 4:51
  Speaker 3: there has been no further legal action. So I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what the threshold is when it comes to these
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  Speaker 3: times shows. And yes, very different networks, very different type
• 5:03
  Speaker 3: of programming, but how comfortable do they feel having someone
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  Speaker 3: with this type of alleged history in the middle of
• 5:12
  Speaker 3: a intense relationship show where you do have tempers flaring
• 5:21
  Speaker 3: and feelings hurt and jealousy erupting. It could be something
• 5:27
  Speaker 3: we're from a liability standpoint.
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  Speaker 2: They just can't risk the potential.
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  Speaker 1: See, I'm not even thinking about her as a threat
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  Speaker 1: to the others in the villa. I don't even see
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  Speaker 1: it like that right now. I see it, as you say,
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  Speaker 1: they never would have let her in. This is an
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  Speaker 1: optic situation. You cannot no matter how safe she could
• 5:45
  Speaker 1: have converted her life, she could be who knows and
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  Speaker 1: never had. And also, this could not be true. Somebody
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  Speaker 1: just filed this and maybe she didn't really threat it. Okay,
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: fine and dandy, So I am not. I'm seeing it
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: as a as a producer, I guess, and being on
• 6:00
  Speaker 1: the show robes for promoting and pushing a show in
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: which you're trying to get people to hook up and
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  Speaker 1: have and find love. You cannot get America behind someone
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  Speaker 1: who is black and got braids and who's been talked
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  Speaker 1: about as potentially violent. She don't look like Frankie Taylor Paul.
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: She does not. She is now and again Robes, I
• 6:25
  Speaker 1: this stuff comes out. We could talk about the restraining
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  Speaker 1: order why it might have been missed here in a second,
• 6:29
  Speaker 1: but Robes, the optics for the Love Island folks will
• 6:32
  Speaker 1: not allow you to go Yep, we stand by putting
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  Speaker 1: somebody in this environment who is in her past been
• 6:44
  Speaker 1: accused of threatening violence to the point that someone went
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  Speaker 1: to authorities and got a restraining order. You can't have
• 6:51
  Speaker 1: You cannot optics, babe, You just cannot do it. How
• 6:55
  Speaker 1: are you going to stand by the.
• 6:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I hear what you're saying, And especially given how
• 7:00
  Speaker 3: oh TT came into the villa and started going at
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  Speaker 3: it with Trinity, go at it with Anaya and was
• 7:08
  Speaker 3: not backing down. And now if you go back and
• 7:11
  Speaker 3: hear what this other woman claims she threatened to shoot
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  Speaker 3: her over a guy, that is terrible given what we've
• 7:19
  Speaker 3: already seen from TT.
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  Speaker 2: Now she seems to have turned over a new leaf.
• 7:23
  Speaker 3: She does seem to be a different version of what
• 7:27
  Speaker 3: we saw when she walked into the villa a couple
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  Speaker 3: nights ago, but we don't know which version she is,
• 7:31
  Speaker 3: and we don't know what really happened five years ago,
• 7:34
  Speaker 3: six years ago.
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  Speaker 1: I would say she's all of those versions. She's all
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: of them. She's complex like the rest of them. And
• 7:40
  Speaker 1: I don't hold whatever happened in her pastro I'm just
• 7:43
  Speaker 1: able to see and how she came in and came
• 7:46
  Speaker 1: in hot. Yeah, every woman who's been hot in the villa?
• 7:49
  Speaker 1: How many times they clapping? And now I ain't talking
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  Speaker 1: to you, bitch. All this type of stuff we hear it.
• 7:55
  Speaker 1: But the girl, this one, all of a sudden, now
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  Speaker 1: we labeled her as something else because of what we're
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  Speaker 1: hearing in the past. TT came in hot, And I
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  Speaker 1: just I don't contextualize in any way her behavior in
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  Speaker 1: the villa in any different way now that I see
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  Speaker 1: that she allegedly has a restraining order. Okay, but ropes,
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  Speaker 1: they're going to need I need them to stand by her,
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  Speaker 1: right if you're going to tell me, we can you
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  Speaker 1: possibly say, you know what? She was a teenager at
• 8:25
  Speaker 1: the time. She explained that situation to us, and we
• 8:28
  Speaker 1: are comfortable with it. And people make changes and people
• 8:31
  Speaker 1: make mistakes, and we are putting her out here, and
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: let would they dare say that about a black woman
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  Speaker 1: and stand by her? Would they dare? Well?
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  Speaker 3: I guess I would also ask couldn't that same logic
• 8:45
  Speaker 3: be applied to any of these other folks who got
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  Speaker 3: kicked out, who claim that's not who I am anymore.
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  Speaker 3: I don't use the N word anymore. That used to
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  Speaker 3: be who I was. It's not who I.
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  Speaker 1: Am now, one hundred and fifty percent. But they set
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  Speaker 1: a precedent exactly, they set a president.
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  Speaker 2: Kick those folks off.
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  Speaker 1: Can't have it.
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  Speaker 2: Doesn't matter how many years ago it was.
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  Speaker 1: Can't do it. The girl was a lot.
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  Speaker 3: I were fifteen years old when she sang along to
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  Speaker 3: that song and sang the N word. She's twenty one now,
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  Speaker 3: but five years ago doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: It's so in from their space worldes I understand, and
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  Speaker 1: I'm okay with Nope, the background in the history, this
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  Speaker 1: is there. We don't want this to be a part
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  Speaker 1: of the show. That's a legitimate argument. I got no.
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  Speaker 3: I cannot believe there is another over here again controversy
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  Speaker 3: about another contestant possibly displaying really bad decisions.
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  Speaker 2: A few years ago.
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  Speaker 1: The seventeen folks, I think the one that accused was sixteen.
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  Speaker 3: I think yeah, it was like sixteen, seventy, seventeen, eighteen,
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  Speaker 3: something like that. But here's the deal, so from what
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  Speaker 3: TMZ has gathered, that order, that restraining order was granted
• 9:54
  Speaker 3: against t T, but it was later dismissed. It was
• 9:57
  Speaker 3: like October to December basically of two eighteen. That was
• 10:01
  Speaker 3: what we're talking about, or the timeframe we're talking about.
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  Speaker 3: So perhaps because it was later dismissed, it wasn't searchable
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  Speaker 3: or it wasn't found by producers because clearly at this point,
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  Speaker 3: and I can't imagine what the vetting is going to
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  Speaker 3: be like for the next few seasons because they have
• 10:16
  Speaker 3: obviously let a lot of things slip through the cracks.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm actually just shocked because when you have contestants
• 10:22
  Speaker 3: so young, it's hard to imagine. There are so many
• 10:26
  Speaker 3: videos and I guess in the age of everyone going
• 10:28
  Speaker 3: online from the moment they're thirteen years old, there's just
• 10:31
  Speaker 3: so much history, so much evidence potentially or videos or
• 10:38
  Speaker 3: problems that people are documenting that you can't ignore.
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  Speaker 1: Well, this is you say that I didn't think about
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  Speaker 1: this is this would be the first one that does
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: not have video evidence attached to it. Right, you say
• 10:50
  Speaker 1: this about young people? How can you be twenty one
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  Speaker 1: and have a history.
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  Speaker 2: That will get you five skeletons in your closet. How
• 10:58
  Speaker 2: do you have skeletons when you're in your early twelve.
• 11:00
  Speaker 1: One of the girls right, she was on podcasts. Another
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: in all these Twitter and social media folks are coming
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: back to bite them in the butt at a time
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: where this should be a wonderful opportunity for them, and
• 11:13
  Speaker 1: instead wrote it costs them who knows what, reputation, family, friends, jobs,
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  Speaker 1: That's it. That's tough. But Titi came in. She came in,
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: like we said rose at Casa Amore. What was our
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: impression of her? Focused?
• 11:28
  Speaker 2: I should say focused.
• 11:30
  Speaker 3: She wanted Casey from the get go. She came in
• 11:33
  Speaker 3: with a mission. She seemed purposeful, but she seemed playful
• 11:38
  Speaker 3: and sweet. She had she had sas to her. She
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: had attitude. You could tell she and Casey are cut
• 11:43
  Speaker 3: from the same cloth. They came from the same part
• 11:45
  Speaker 3: of the world.
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  Speaker 2: So there was just this, There was this.
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  Speaker 3: But I didn't feel like she was aggressive or in
• 11:54
  Speaker 3: some way just angry or mean or somewhere you'd be like,
• 11:59
  Speaker 3: oh that girl watch I didn't feel that way.
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: No, we actually remember, we actually thought she had a
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: good moment where she got annoyed or jealous that Casey
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: wanted to sleep in the bed.
• 12:08
  Speaker 2: With another girl.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: And then she came back apologized, yes, for her own behavior.
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: She said, look, I was a little upset. You do
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: what you want. I say, Wow, okay, we got one.
• 12:17
  Speaker 1: She's a good one.
• 12:18
  Speaker 3: Maybe she's learned from her mistakes. She's twenty five now,
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: she was seventeen at the time. That's a big eight
• 12:25
  Speaker 3: those eight years are That's a big, big difference between
• 12:29
  Speaker 3: who you are at seventeen and who you are at
• 12:31
  Speaker 3: twenty five.
• 12:31
  Speaker 1: And she lists herself as a nanny, a model, and dancer.
• 12:34
  Speaker 1: I've never seen that combo necessarily before. But hey, the
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: girl she's working and doing a thing. She has several
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: credits listed in the music videos. Oh really was a dancer.
• 12:44
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that that was the new triple threat. Nanny, model, dancer.
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: That means she can take care of kids, she's hot,
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: and she can move.
• 12:51
  Speaker 2: Yep, I mean that sounds like wife material.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: That's why she's on the show. But for how much longer?
• 12:57
  Speaker 1: Do you remember? At the beginning she said she's a dancer.
• 13:00
  Speaker 1: I can't remember if she was. I can't remember all
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: the dances, but I said, these these are some professionals.
• 13:04
  Speaker 3: Oh yes, when they came in to introduce themselves to
• 13:07
  Speaker 3: the guys, and without their names or any sort of
• 13:10
  Speaker 3: verbal exchange, they.
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: Just expressed themselves sexually but artistically.
• 13:17
  Speaker 3: But yes, you said, wow, she's got too many skills
• 13:20
  Speaker 3: to have this be the first time she's done that.
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: It was several of them. They were clearly killed. There
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: were some rehearsal involved in that over years. But after that, Robes,
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: I did think she was fairly matched well with Casey.
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: I do. I still think she's fairly matched well with Casey.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: But then she comes in and yes, it was bizarre.
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: It was a terrible way to meet the other girls.
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: When she comes back with Casey, they're all upset. He's
• 13:45
  Speaker 1: trying to speak, and she speaks up and starts defending
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: him and telling them the pipe down I'm from Inglewood.
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: Like it all came out and that's fine. She had
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: a bad moment. But then, Robes, was it last night.
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: It was the redemptive show for her. She talked with
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: some of the other girls and everything seemed to calm down.
• 14:02
  Speaker 3: Everybody seems I was actually so pleasantly surprised that they
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: all put down their armor put down their weapons and
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: actually said, you know what, this isn't about you, This
• 14:13
  Speaker 3: is about the guy. So they were able to actually
• 14:16
  Speaker 3: kind of go into or lean into sisterhood and say,
• 14:20
  Speaker 3: Casey is the problem, not you.
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: What is the problem with the vetting? Stay here, we'll
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: explain why this keeps happening and things keep getting missed.
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: All right, folks, we continue on this episode of Amy
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: and DJ. Yes, do we have another islander potentially on
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: the chopping block talking about t T Tierra Davis. She's
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: in there hooked up coupled up with case right now.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: But TMZ reporting they have gotten a hand on a
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: restraining order that was issued against her when she was
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: seventeen ish back in twenty eighteen, in which someone alleged
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: that she threatened her with assault. Ropes, we talked about Kaiser.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Alana Kaiser was the most recent just got kicked off
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: this year. People were wondering, why in the hell how
• 15:11
  Speaker 1: do they miss this and keep missing it? That was
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: a very good explanation. In ropes, it's almost impossible for
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: producers to catch some stuff, including what happened with a.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Lanna Yes, because she put this up again she was fifteen,
• 15:23
  Speaker 3: so that was six years ago, and it was on Snapchat,
• 15:26
  Speaker 3: and so someone had to have recorded the snapchat or
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: you know, and saved it, but it wasn't necessarily still up.
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: Snapchat is personal. It disappears.
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: So yes, someone had been holding on to this video
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: and then decided to publish it once they saw she
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: was a contestant. It didn't seem as though there was
• 15:45
  Speaker 3: any way for producers to have known that video existed,
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: to have known that she would have at one point
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: posted this because Snapchat disappears. That's one of the I
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: guess draws to that particular form of social media is
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: that it's not supposed to last forever. But as parents
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: have always worn their kids, people take screenshots, people record
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: from their phone, and that's exactly what it looked like.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: We were seeing a recording of the original post, so
• 16:12
  Speaker 3: producers would not have had access to that.
• 16:14
  Speaker 1: So rooms you into this situation where this is a
• 16:19
  Speaker 1: huge hit show. Everybody talks about it. So when there's
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: a new announcement of a new cast member, a new bombshell,
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: somebody looks up and go, oh, I know her, and
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: then they start going through their phones and then they
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: get excited to do what post something and take them down,
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: and I go, I know, is it the right thing?
• 16:38
  Speaker 1: Should we have known about this from Milana? I don't know, Robes.
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: Is there another woman on the show, not black, who's
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: used the N word and rapping the song before?
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: Maybe, but we don't have video evidence of its the
• 16:50
  Speaker 3: thing somebody.
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: It's going to happen and this will continue to happen.
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: And the reason now, Robes, that makes sense, but the
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: restraining order rose, I'd be honest with you, I didn't
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: fully comprehend this, but restraining orders often issued in civil.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: Court, civil not criminal.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: There's no criminal record, No criminal background check is going
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: to show this unless the restraining order of protection is
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: attached to an ongoing criminal case. This was not well.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: This seems like this could have been another situation where
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: it was impossible. There's no way unless she told them that,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: they would have known.
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: No, And I just think that's where we are. They're
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: doing the best they can, but people, especially now look
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: and we don't even know. I mean, it seems as
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: though there really was obviously a court order that TMZ
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: says they saw that they've posted screenshots of They're all
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: over online. But I do think it's one of those
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: moments where anyone can accuse anyone of something, and that
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: needs to be taken into consideration because we don't know
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: if this was revenge, you know, from align someone a
• 18:03
  Speaker 3: love adversary to try and bring them down. We don't know,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: And so I actually would give space for the producers
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: and even for Titi to be able to explain, Hey,
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: wait a.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Minute, that never happened.
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: She just said it happened to get me in trouble,
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: to punish me for something. So look, I think any
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: one of us knows, especially when now these young folks
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: are being catapulted into the spotlight. If anyone has a
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: grievance with you, if anyone doesn't like you, there are
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: so many avenues for people to come after you and
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: to ruin your reputation, sometimes with credibility and sometimes without.
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: And wrote to think this, whatever was going on between
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: these two young ladies all those years ago, what is
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: she sitting back and doing now laughing because she probably
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: bothered her that Tit has become.
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: A star a hundred percent, And.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: Did she even remember this? Did she leak something that.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: She who knows we have to consider all of that,
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: don't know?
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Well, but you made a point that I didn't fully
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: can This is one whereasa he said, she said, whose
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: word do you take in something like that? And do
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: you have to err on the side of extreme caution
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: when you're talking about violence, Babe?
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: I think you do.
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: But I do think she deserves an opportunity to at
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: least explain maybe her side of things because there is
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: no video evidence. Look, if there was a video showing
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: her saying I'm going to shoot you up, it's we're done.
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: There's no question.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: There isn't a video, there isn't a smoking gun, So
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: it's a she said.
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: She said. Now because a judge issued the order, does.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: That rise to the level or is that also just
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: a judge making a safe bet that it's better to
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: have the restraining order put in place than not if
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: anything were to happen. So I'm not sure what the
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: threshold is for a judge to issue one. How much
• 19:53
  Speaker 3: proof he had to see or she had to see
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: to issue the order, I'm not clear on that.
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: I'm smiling because of that line you said there was video,
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: all bets are off and it'd be different. And all
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: I see is a stool hurling across a living room
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: and hitting a kid exactly, Frankie Taylor p.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: Even in some cases it might just delay things, not
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: actually end things.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: What a season this has been for Love Island. Tonight
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: is what movie night? I'm exhausted. What I just just
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: can just do a spin off and just have Bryce
• 20:24
  Speaker 1: and Trinity do their own thing Love Island, Bryce and Trinity.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: I would watch that show every night.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: I would watch Married Island, I would follow I.
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Would do that. Sorry, folks, As always, we appreciate you
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: spending a little time with us on dj on behalf
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: of my dear Amy Robot. We'll talk to you also