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The Flying Saucer Story is a LIE... · Ryder Lee

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  Speaker 1: So for the people that aren't familiar with Kenneth Arnold,
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  Speaker 1: he was very well respected aviator. He was a businessman
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  Speaker 1: and later he became a politician. He again was one
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  Speaker 1: of the first and modern times to report a strange
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  Speaker 1: craft in the sky. At around three pm on June
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  Speaker 1: twenty fourth, nineteen forty seven, Kenneth Arnold was piloting his
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  Speaker 1: A two plane and the skies around a mountain Rainier, Washington,
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  Speaker 1: searching for a missing marine aircraft, and he claimed to
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  Speaker 1: have witnessed a string of nine objects at around ten
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  Speaker 1: thousand feet. They flew at what he said amazing speeds
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  Speaker 1: of what Arnold estimated at around fifteen hundred miles an hour.
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  Speaker 1: And after witnessing these craft, he landed his plane in Yakama,
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  Speaker 1: Washington and told his friend Al Baxter about the sighting.
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  Speaker 1: Arnold then shared his story with other pilots and friends
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  Speaker 1: and people and told him what he had saw, and
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  Speaker 1: they responded us seeing that what he must have saw
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  Speaker 1: was military missiles or military planes or military project And
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  Speaker 1: that's a pretty good explanation because if you look at
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  Speaker 1: the actual drawings of what Arnold said that he saw,
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  Speaker 1: it looks very similar to a B two stealth bomber,
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  Speaker 1: which was a classified aircraft at that time, and it
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  Speaker 1: was revealed years later. But Arnold, not being convinced by
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  Speaker 1: his friends that this must have been some sort of
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  Speaker 1: military missile or military craft, he walked into a local
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  Speaker 1: news station and he told his story to a gentleman
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  Speaker 1: named Nolan Skiff. Now, Nolan published a short article and
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  Speaker 1: then that story was then forwarded to the Associated Press
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  Speaker 1: for worldwide distribution, and the term flying saucer was born. Now,
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  Speaker 1: it's important in the beginning to realize that Kenneth th
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  Speaker 1: Artole was very reserved about his account and the craft
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  Speaker 1: that he witnessed. But the story progressed in public interest,
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  Speaker 1: became so popular and it turns into this gigantic media frenzy. Okay, Now,
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  Speaker 1: when you look at Arnold's testimony, what she did a
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  Speaker 1: lot of interviews and a lot of radio shows. He
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  Speaker 1: never used the term flying saucer to describe the shape
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  Speaker 1: of the craft. He said that it was bat shaped,
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  Speaker 1: crescent shaped, boomerang shaped with wings. And he said that
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  Speaker 1: his comments on the sightings were misunderstood, and he even
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  Speaker 1: worked very hard up until the end of his life
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty four to combat this entire flying saucer narrative. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: so the sketches that Kenneth Arnold drew to describe what
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  Speaker 1: he saw doesn't even come close to the commonly accepted
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  Speaker 1: version of what UFOs looked like. And then later on
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen sixty an artist rendition of what Arnold saw
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  Speaker 1: came out and that doesn't look anything like a flying saucer.
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  Speaker 1: And now what it happened was Nolan Skiff, the journalist
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  Speaker 1: that published Arnold's story in the newspaper, said that Arnold
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  Speaker 1: cited nine saucer like aircraft, and the media took that
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  Speaker 1: wasn't even a quote from Arnold. He just created that,
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  Speaker 1: and the media took the saucer like aircraft and ran
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  Speaker 1: with it and created headlines sorcer shaped craft spotted when
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  Speaker 1: Arnold literally never referred to the shape of the craft
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  Speaker 1: as sorcerer. In shape, it was bat shaped, crescent shaped,
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  Speaker 1: shaped like a boomerang, and sometimes even he said it
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  Speaker 1: was shaped like a pie plate or a pie pant Okay.
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  Speaker 1: An interview with Arnold by the United Press, he said
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  Speaker 1: that they were half moon shaped, oval in the front
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  Speaker 1: and convex in the back. So in nineteen sixty, Arnold
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  Speaker 1: came out with the drawing of the craft he saw,
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  Speaker 1: and it is bat shaped, circular shaped, winged in the back.
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  Speaker 1: And you'd think that Arnold coming out with this drawing
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  Speaker 1: of the craft would stop all of the flying saucer talk,
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  Speaker 1: but it didn't. It's too late. By then, the flying
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  Speaker 1: saucer narrative would become such a huge topic, others reporting
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  Speaker 1: seeing flying saucers, and there wasn't any correcting the narrative
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  Speaker 1: at that point. The narrative had spun out of control
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  Speaker 1: and it had gone so far that there was no
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  Speaker 1: reeling net back in. So this became a frenzy topic,
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  Speaker 1: everybody reporting strange craft. Now this is a quote directly
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  Speaker 1: from Arnold in relation to what everybody else, because this
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  Speaker 1: really started the entire thing. Everyone started seeing flying saucers
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  Speaker 1: after that and reporting in flying saucers, which really speak
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  Speaker 1: to what is actually happening here. It's the same with
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  Speaker 1: Bud Hopkins, It's the same with several people in this space.
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  Speaker 1: Whenever they put out something in a book or the
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  Speaker 1: media that talks about it, everybody starts seeing it and
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  Speaker 1: it becomes this very popular. It's in egregre Is what
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  Speaker 1: it is. Another quote from Arnold states that he feels
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  Speaker 1: that the phenomena should be labeled something different in a
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  Speaker 1: strange type of aircraft instead of a flying saucer. So
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  Speaker 1: on April seventh, nineteen fifty, Arnold spills the beans on
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  Speaker 1: the whole entire flying saucer misrepresentation and misquote. Arnold said
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  Speaker 1: that the objects that he witnessed fluttered like they were
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  Speaker 1: boats on really rough water. And this part is the
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  Speaker 1: most important part because it's where the miss representation came from.
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  Speaker 1: In the misquote, he said when the crafts flew, they
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  Speaker 1: flew like a saw or thrown across the water. He
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  Speaker 1: said that from the very beginning, and most newspapers misunderstood
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  Speaker 1: and misquoted him saying that the shape of the craft
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  Speaker 1: was saucer in shape. When Arnold said that they flew
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  Speaker 1: like saucer's being thrown across the water, not that the
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  Speaker 1: shape of the craft was saucer in shape, Okay, He
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  Speaker 1: said that they flew like saucer's being skipped across from water,
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  Speaker 1: like a rock being skipped across water. And the headline
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  Speaker 1: said that they were saucer in shape, which is probably
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  Speaker 1: the biggest misquote of all time and misunderstanding of all time,
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  Speaker 1: which really kicked off this entire thing. And later on
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  Speaker 1: Arnold you know, started changing his thoughts and his ideas
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  Speaker 1: about what they were, saying that they were jellyfish and
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  Speaker 1: that they could change shape and then morph into whatever
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  Speaker 1: they wanted you to see, and related it to the
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  Speaker 1: Bible in the Book of Ezekiel, and you know, he
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  Speaker 1: was more than likely one of the first people to
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  Speaker 1: do that. That was in nineteen fifty two, which Arnold
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  Speaker 1: has he had many other sightings after that. He had
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  Speaker 1: eight other sightings after nineteen forty seven that really no
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  Speaker 1: one talks about they were, but they were probably more
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  Speaker 1: than likely misidentified birds or balloons or whatever. But here's
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  Speaker 1: the really important one now when we get into the
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  Speaker 1: term of what flying saucer actually was, because before it
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  Speaker 1: was associated with the UFO phenomenon, flying saucers was a
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  Speaker 1: sport that predated Arnold's sightings by over sixty years, which
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  Speaker 1: was called trap shooting, which was started in the late
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  Speaker 1: eighteen hundreds as a way to train.
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  Speaker 2: Hunters, yeah clay pigeons get.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly, in which they would released the live birds, and
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  Speaker 1: then later on it became changed to these clay pigeons
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  Speaker 1: because rights activists said that you're just killing a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of birds. But a man named Charles the Whiskey in
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty he dubbed these little clay pigeons flying saucers.
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  Speaker 1: So by the early nineteen hundreds, flying saucers clay pigeons
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  Speaker 1: had become very popular as a sport. There were competitions, championships,
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  Speaker 1: and the skies of North America were there are newspaper
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  Speaker 1: articles with headlines and the early nineteen hundreds that said
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  Speaker 1: skies are covered in flying saucerers flying through the air,
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  Speaker 1: exploding and falling to the ground, which is the exact
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  Speaker 1: replica of the phrases of what everyone thought several decades later,
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  Speaker 1: with Kenneth Arnold's sightings and the Rosweld incident. By the
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  Speaker 1: twentieth century, the name flying saucier had become a common
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  Speaker 1: name used for over two decades. The sport of flying
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  Speaker 1: saucers became so popular it was adopted by the Olympics
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen sixteen. The number of participants in the sport
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  Speaker 1: of flying saucers with six hundred thousand pace people in
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  Speaker 1: the US. They all knew the term flying saucers, and
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  Speaker 1: these little clay pigeons were called flying saucers. The military
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  Speaker 1: even adopted it to train their soldiers in target practice
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  Speaker 1: at the beginning of World War Two. So you put
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  Speaker 1: two and two together there, Okay, So we have clay
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  Speaker 1: pigeons being called flying saucers since eighteen eighty, hundreds of
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  Speaker 1: thousands of people being familiar with the term. The military
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  Speaker 1: adopted the term and the practice in their early forties
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  Speaker 1: during World War two, and two years after the war ended,
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  Speaker 1: we get the term flying saucer, but under a different context.
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  Speaker 1: This is all laid out in the book by my
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  Speaker 1: friend Chris Albeck. He's been on my show a few
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  Speaker 1: times now, and he really immerses you into the kinnethernal sightings.
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  Speaker 1: He shows pictures of these clay pigeons, He shows how
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  Speaker 1: all of this is related together. The name of the
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  Speaker 1: book is called Saucers. You can get it on Amazon Prime.
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  Speaker 1: What we have here is that the entire UFO subject
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  Speaker 1: and ufology is based upon a fallacy. And ufology has
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  Speaker 1: been using the shape of a round disc when it
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  Speaker 1: was never described by Arnold as a disc or a
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  Speaker 1: flying saucer. We've initially had the shape wrong this entire time. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we've essentially been telling and regurgitating a misrepresentation of what
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  Speaker 1: Arnold said that he saw, and out of Arnold's own words,
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  Speaker 1: what other claims, what other people claim to us Saul
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  Speaker 1: at the time wasn't the same as what he saw,
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  Speaker 1: or it was absolutely nothing at all, Okay, And I
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  Speaker 1: challenge anyone to find a quote of Arnold saying that
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  Speaker 1: the shape of the craft was saucer like, not what
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  Speaker 1: other people quoted him a saying, because they obviously got
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  Speaker 1: it wrong and misinterpreted his words. But find a quote
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  Speaker 1: of Arnold himself saying that the craft that he witnessed
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  Speaker 1: on June twenty fourth, nineteen forty seven was flying saucer
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  Speaker 1: in shape. You can't, and you won't, because it doesn't exist.
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  Speaker 1: The flying saucerer mythology is a lie, it's a misnomer.
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  Speaker 1: It's a misrepresented quote from a newspaper, reporter, journalist and researchers,
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  Speaker 1: and it's still the most popular symbol of ufology to
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  Speaker 1: this very day, even though it's not called flying saucers anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Flying saucers are the basis and the root of modern ufology.
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  Speaker 1: Every conference, every UFO documentary, YouTube thumbnails and I use
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  Speaker 1: it too, Okay, use the flying saucer art when it's
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  Speaker 1: a lie. That's never what they look like.
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  Speaker 2: All right, Are they going to just show us military
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  Speaker 2: stuff that they've been hiding or do you think there's
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  Speaker 2: going to be any real disclosure on things that we've
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  Speaker 2: been questioning forever.
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  Speaker 1: Well, that gets you into a completely different topic of
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  Speaker 1: Paul Benowitz. Are you familiar with Paul Benowitz?