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HERO WAITRESS SAVES BEATEN LITTLE BOY FROM EVIL STEP-DAD · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Have you ever looked at a child and a parking
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Speaker 1: lot at a grocery store when you're at a red
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Speaker 1: light and you glance over at the other cars and
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Speaker 1: you know in your heart that child is being mistreated? What,
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Speaker 1: if anything, do you do? What if anything can you do? Well?
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Speaker 1: Today we speak to a woman who did something. How
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Speaker 1: did it all start? Well? It started at a restaurant
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Speaker 1: called Missus Potato with this nine one one call. Listen,
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Speaker 1: we have some customers tew years a week choo kids.
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Speaker 1: One off the keeps these weeks a loss of bruises
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Speaker 1: on his arms and on his face, and the parents
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Speaker 1: is not done giving food for him, but if giving
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Speaker 1: to the another kids that are with them. And I
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Speaker 1: asked him on a paper if he needs help, and
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Speaker 1: for he turned his head saying that's no. But he
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Speaker 1: keeps looking at me, and I write in another face
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Speaker 1: if he needs help again, and he made me a
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Speaker 1: sign that yes he needs help. So on the first note,
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Speaker 1: this waitresses restaurant manager wrote the little boy surreptitiously, do
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Speaker 1: you need help? He indicated no, but he kept looking
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Speaker 1: at her and looking at her and looking at her,
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Speaker 1: and she just knew and her gut she should try again,
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Speaker 1: and she did and he said yes. Joining me right now,
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Speaker 1: an all star slate of panelist doctor Angela Arnold, renowned
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Speaker 1: psychiatrists joining me out of Atlanta at Angela Arnold MD
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Speaker 1: dot com. Forensic expert, hosts of a hit new podcast
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Speaker 1: Shattered Souls, now entering season two. Special guests with me,
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Speaker 1: the national chief communications officer at one of the organizations,
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Speaker 1: Very Dear to my Heart, Child Help dot org. Their
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Speaker 1: chip line is eight hundred four a child eight hundred
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Speaker 1: four two two four four five three. Daphne Young with me,
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Speaker 1: lead news anchor joining me from w DBO. Ray Caputo.
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Speaker 1: I know you've heard his name before, renowned criminal defense
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Speaker 1: attorney out of La Troy slate, no tranger to a courtroom.
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Speaker 1: But our star to day is the woman who I
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Speaker 1: believe saved this child's life. Her name is Flaviani Vollo. Flaviani,
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Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. You're welcome, Miss Carvollo.
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Speaker 1: You work there at the Miss Potato restaurant, and you are,
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Speaker 1: in fact a manager. You see families with children all
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Speaker 1: the time. What stuck out to you when you saw
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Speaker 1: this family? What was odd about this family? I think
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Speaker 1: a lot of things so first the time that they
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Speaker 1: are rive, that for historians is not common for families
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Speaker 1: with kids. Second, I didn't understand the first thing. What
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Speaker 1: was the first thing? That time? The hour that they
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Speaker 1: arrived at the Hittoran? What time was it? What Sam
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Speaker 1: thirty at night? At night? So we are close closing song?
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Speaker 1: So families usually come early with kids. Yeah, you're right
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Speaker 1: by ten thirty either yea, the winds are asleep, God
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Speaker 1: help me, or we're going round and around about them
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Speaker 1: turning their lights off. But by ten thirty? What day
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Speaker 1: of the week was this? Was it a weekend? Was
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Speaker 1: it a week day? Wasn't January first? And so that
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Speaker 1: would have been Ray Kaputo January first of twenty twenty one?
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Speaker 1: Was what day of the week it was a Friday?
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Speaker 1: I believe it was a New Year's Day? Yeah, but
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Speaker 1: you know what, normally if it was a Friday, I
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Speaker 1: would say, well, why are they up late on a
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Speaker 1: school night Monday through Thursday? But not only was it
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Speaker 1: Friday night, it was also New Year's Day? But still
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Speaker 1: bringing them in for dinner at ten thirty at night.
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Speaker 1: You're right, miss Caravallo. I would have noticed that too.
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Speaker 1: So you see them coming in at ten thirty pm
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Speaker 1: to missus potato. And then what happens, Oh, they see
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Speaker 1: that it's table. And I thought that the little boy,
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Speaker 1: he was complete cover. He was booting using a hoodie
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Speaker 1: masks glass and he was put on the side. No
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Speaker 1: one was tough with him or interrupting anyway with him.
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Speaker 1: So this is another flag. I don't like it. I
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Speaker 1: don't like it at all. His face covered and he's
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Speaker 1: being seemingly ostracized from the family. I want to go
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Speaker 1: to doctor Angela. Arnold announced psychiatrists joining us out of
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta jurisdiction. Doctor Angie, I mean, you're the shrink.
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Speaker 1: I'm just a trial lawyer. But I've noticed in many
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Speaker 1: child abuse and child molestation cases, you could have a
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Speaker 1: whole family and one child is singled out to be starved,
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Speaker 1: to be beaten, to be locked away, mistreated, kept home
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Speaker 1: from school, and there's nothing unique about that child and
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Speaker 1: not cause more trouble or it's just that one child
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Speaker 1: and the other children are well nourished and not beaten,
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Speaker 1: not mistreated. Why is that why pick on one child? Well,
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Speaker 1: oftentimes we call it the identified patient or the identified
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Speaker 1: trauma victim, and sometimes that believe it or not, Nancy,
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Speaker 1: sometimes the child might could possibly remind the abuser of someone,
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Speaker 1: and that's why they're picked out. Okay, It is also
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Speaker 1: a way to control the rest of the kids because
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Speaker 1: the kids aren't going to say a word, and they're
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Speaker 1: showing the kids what could possibly happen to them, and
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Speaker 1: so in order to in order to get away from
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Speaker 1: that abuse, the other children tow the line. So then
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Speaker 1: they've got everybody towing the line and they're only abusing
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Speaker 1: one child. Oftentimes, though, I will say that one child
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Speaker 1: reminds the abuser of someone in the past, whether it
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Speaker 1: could be the color of their hair or whatever, and
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Speaker 1: that is oftentimes why they choose that child to be up.
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Speaker 1: And I'm trying to figure out the psychology of a
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Speaker 1: parent who would target one child or any child and
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Speaker 1: abuse them. I'm taking a look, but also that Nancy,
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Speaker 1: think about it. This is it a parent or a
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Speaker 1: step parent? Yes, because that good question. I'm taking a
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Speaker 1: look at Missus Potato. They're in Orlando, Orlando's Corner of
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Speaker 1: Potato Flavor, and it just seems like an awesome diner
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Speaker 1: with everything you could imagine to eat and the hours there.
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Speaker 1: You just heard miss Carvolo, say, it's getting close to
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Speaker 1: closing time. It's ten thirty at night. Who comes in
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Speaker 1: with their children ten thirty at night and basically isolates
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Speaker 1: a one child. Back to Flaviani Carvolo, hero, what happened next?
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Speaker 1: So next day order the fool and this is why
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Speaker 1: when they realize was something very wrong because they ordered
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Speaker 1: food for the two adults the little girl, but not
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Speaker 1: for the boy. What was the boy doing during all
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Speaker 1: this fla He was quiet, not talking, always with his
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Speaker 1: head down and just looking. When you went over and
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Speaker 1: took the order, did he look at you? Yeah. I
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Speaker 1: approached the table and I asked them missus, was everything
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Speaker 1: okay with the water? And the man turned to me
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Speaker 1: and he told me that was everything all right, and
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Speaker 1: the boy is gonna have his dinner that night at home.
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Speaker 1: And this is fact when I saw the big scratch
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Speaker 1: on his face. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. Guys, we
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Speaker 1: are talking to a woman beautiful on the inside and out.
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Speaker 1: Her name Flaviii Carvallo. She's the manager at Orlando restaurant
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Speaker 1: Missus Potato, and she just had a feeling a strong
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Speaker 1: feeling that something was wrong. Take a listen to our
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Speaker 1: friends at WFTV nine. I was working at the Historian
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Speaker 1: that night and a family came in. That family included
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Speaker 1: Timothy Wilson, the second Kristin Swan, and their two children.
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Speaker 1: It was nearly closing time, so without the busy dinner
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Speaker 1: rush all Flabbiani, Carvallo's attention was on them. Boy starts
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Speaker 1: serving them and I observed that everyone received the food,
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Speaker 1: but not the kid. A couple of minutes later, I
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Speaker 1: saw some bruise on his the side of his eyes,
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Speaker 1: and after bruises here, so she moved to a part
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Speaker 1: of the restaurant where he could see her, but his
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Speaker 1: stepfather and mother couldn't. I wrote a sign asking him
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Speaker 1: if he was okay. The boy said yes, but Carvelo
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Speaker 1: didn't quite believe him, so she tried again with this sign.
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Speaker 1: That time he nodded yes, he did need help. Was
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Speaker 1: when I called nine one one one off the keeps
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Speaker 1: this with a lot of bruises on his turn with me,
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Speaker 1: that hero, Miss Carvello, Miss Carvolo, you were just telling
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Speaker 1: us that you go to the table and you see
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Speaker 1: how the food has been distributed, and the little boy,
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Speaker 1: who we are not naming, the eleven year old little
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Speaker 1: boy gets nothing. Did everybody start eating their food and
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Speaker 1: he's just sitting there. Yes, they was eating, drinking and
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Speaker 1: nothing to him. Were they talking like a regular family?
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Speaker 1: What were they doing? The man, the woman and the
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Speaker 1: little girl was talking and kind of playing, but just
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Speaker 1: between the three, just between the three of them, and
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Speaker 1: the little boy continued sitting away from them. Yeah, complete
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Speaker 1: ignore it. So many factors in this case are serendipitous,
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Speaker 1: just by chance. It happened this way that an eleven
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Speaker 1: year old little boy's life was saved. Take a listen
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Speaker 1: to restaurant and Raphaela Kabay. There were lots of coincidences
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Speaker 1: that led to she seeing the situation and being able
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Speaker 1: to speak up. We truly believe that this was a
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Speaker 1: holy provision and we are very blessed that we were
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Speaker 1: able to help this child. She was not on schedule
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Speaker 1: on that day, She was not supposed to be working.
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Speaker 1: We had a an employee who called out her as
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Speaker 1: being a manager. She went in. It was the last
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Speaker 1: table of the day. It was New Year's Day, very busy. Indeed,
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Speaker 1: if this family were to come at eight o'clock, we
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Speaker 1: would have ten twenty tables. Everybody would be running around
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Speaker 1: and maybe there wouldn't be enough time to to see
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Speaker 1: the details. I will just say it right here and
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Speaker 1: right now. Thank you God for all of the facts
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Speaker 1: surrounding this case that allowed this woman, Flavianna Cravolo, to
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Speaker 1: save this boy's life. Flavianni again, thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us. So you know something is wrong, you just
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Speaker 1: sense it now. You went and hid where the family
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Speaker 1: the mom and dad couldn't see, but the little boy could.
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Speaker 1: How did you do that? I was has a corridor
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Speaker 1: in front of him, and on the position that he was,
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Speaker 1: I was able to kind of get over a fridge
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Speaker 1: and hide from the man to show him the paper.
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Speaker 1: I was basic in front of him, and so the
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Speaker 1: mom and the dad had their backs to you. And
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Speaker 1: where was the little girl? No? No, the man was
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Speaker 1: on the side of the boy. The mom was with
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Speaker 1: her back to me, and the little girl was on
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Speaker 1: her side. I got it. So you were at an
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Speaker 1: angle down the hallway, so the dad couldn't see you.
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Speaker 1: You couldn't really give the boy anything because the parents
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Speaker 1: would see you do it. So you held up a
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Speaker 1: sign for him to read. What did the sign said?
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Speaker 1: The first one said are you okay? And he knocked
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Speaker 1: his head yet, so I take over the path and
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Speaker 1: right short and he again knocked. Yet after that he
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Speaker 1: started making me shigh with his vibes. He gives me
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Speaker 1: a long blink and I this is why when I
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Speaker 1: wrote another sign asking him if he needs help, and
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Speaker 1: he said yes, he needs help. And also his movement
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Speaker 1: with his hands showing me that he didn't know what
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Speaker 1: to do. So I understand that he said yes, I
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Speaker 1: need help, but I don't know what to do. That
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Speaker 1: is amazing to me. I mean, choice Lay in federal
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Speaker 1: criminal defense attorney out of LA I've seen a lot
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Speaker 1: of cases, but can you imagine all of this being
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Speaker 1: conveyed by an eleven year old boy non verbally. But
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Speaker 1: he couldn't really move that much, but through his gesticulations
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Speaker 1: and the look on his face, he communicated Troy. It's
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Speaker 1: amazing and it's a wonderful confluence of events. And I
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Speaker 1: really tipped my hat to Flaviana who was able to
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Speaker 1: pick up on all these nonverbal cues. It's amazing from
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Speaker 1: the situation and was able to really be the guardian
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Speaker 1: angel for this child who was suffering at the hands
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Speaker 1: of his monster stepfather. And not only that, It's like
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Speaker 1: sticking your hand between two rottweilers if you get into
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Speaker 1: an argument with a parent about the child, even if
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Speaker 1: you're trying to help the child. She had no idea
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Speaker 1: what this mom and dad could do if they found
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Speaker 1: out what she was doing. Troy, Absolutely, she put herself
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Speaker 1: a personal risk. She could have been wrong, she could
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Speaker 1: have been accused, she could have been fired. But she
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Speaker 1: did the right thing at a great personal risk to herself,
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Speaker 1: you know, doctor Angela Arnold Psychiatrists joining me out of Atlanta. Yes,
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Speaker 1: so often we see people's hunches discarded and mocked on
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Speaker 1: the stand of course, mocked by the news media. But
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Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you I've had literally thousands of cases,
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Speaker 1: thousands over the course of ten years in inter city
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Speaker 1: Atlanta felony courtrooms where people acted on a feeling, acted
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Speaker 1: on a hunch, and they were right. I really believe
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Speaker 1: hunches are instincts borne over thousands of years of evolution
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Speaker 1: and are not to be ignored. Right, And wouldn't wouldn't.
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Speaker 1: Oh my god, what an amazing woman to take these steps.
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Speaker 1: I truly believe, after reading this story, Nancy, that she
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Speaker 1: saved this child's life. Oh, there's no doubt in my
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Speaker 1: mind and Daphne Young, National Chief Communications Officer Childhelp dot Org.
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Speaker 1: How many times does it just make you crazy angry
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Speaker 1: when people say, well, I thought something was wrong, why
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Speaker 1: didn't you do something? And a child ends up dead?
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Speaker 1: Remember the House of Horrors out in California, the whole neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: They never saw any of these, I think eleven children.
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Speaker 1: They were off the great plane site. Nobody did a thing.
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Speaker 1: These children were chained to their beds. The house reeked
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Speaker 1: of urine, they were beaten and starved. Nobody did a thing.
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Speaker 1: How often do you hear that? Or a neighbors suspected
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Speaker 1: but they did nothing. It infuriates me because when we
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Speaker 1: hear those comments, it's usually when the news media's interviewing
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Speaker 1: people about dead children. So I would have loved for
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Speaker 1: all the people that had hunches to become Flaviani's style
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Speaker 1: heroes and save these children's lives rather than comment on
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Speaker 1: how they look cold or underweight for their age, or
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Speaker 1: I noticed bruises but I was afraid to call. That
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Speaker 1: infuriates me because if your little moment of discomfort and
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Speaker 1: making that call can save that child from spending the
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Speaker 1: next year, the next two years being abused or ending
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Speaker 1: up in a grave and a yard somewhere because you
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Speaker 1: were nervous to make a call. That infuriates me. And
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Speaker 1: what I love about Flaviani is she didn't let that
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Speaker 1: child's first nod yeah, I'm okay changed the way she felt.
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Speaker 1: She knew that there was a little boy sitting in
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Speaker 1: like a small town America strip mall, eating surrounded by
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Speaker 1: yummy smells and cheesy potatoes and smelling chili fries, and
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Speaker 1: just wilting in that seat with a rumbling stomach while
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Speaker 1: the parents sadistically ate in front of him. And wonderful
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Speaker 1: doctor Angela gave you the professional nomenclature, but there's also
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Speaker 1: we call them sometimes tinder relatives at child help. They're
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Speaker 1: the ones that are singled out for that pain. And
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Speaker 1: imagine being so hungry and so unloved and so small
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Speaker 1: and sad. And she saw that and she kept probably.
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Speaker 1: He looked in her warm eyes and thought, maybe I
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Speaker 1: can do this. Like the first instinct is to run away,
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Speaker 1: and the second was to come forward. And that's why
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Speaker 1: you not only call, but you call again, you try
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Speaker 1: again for the love of that child. And that is
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Speaker 1: exactly what our hero if Laviana Caravalo did, let me
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Speaker 1: just again reiterate the number for child Hill eight hundred
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Speaker 1: four a child eight hundred four four four five three
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Speaker 1: report it. What's the worst thing that's going to happen?
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Speaker 1: If you're wrong? You're wrong. That's all that's going to happen.
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Speaker 1: What could happen? You could save a child's life, because
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Speaker 1: I guarantee you with this little bowl, it wasn't going
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Speaker 1: to get better. Can I tell you? When I go
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Speaker 1: pick up my twins from school every day, I take
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Speaker 1: snacks in cold water, just in case they're hungry, just
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Speaker 1: in case, maybe one out of ten days they take
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Speaker 1: me up on it. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. How
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Speaker 1: can you sit there and let an eleven year old
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Speaker 1: little boy malnutrition covered in bruises watch you eat while
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Speaker 1: he starves? Straight back out to Flaviani Carvallo. So the
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Speaker 1: boy says no. Then he indicates, yeah, but what can
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Speaker 1: I do? What did you do? Then? Flaviani? I just
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Speaker 1: wrote okay on the same paper and show him to
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Speaker 1: let him know that I was doing something. Did you
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Speaker 1: write the sign on on the fringes in a piece
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Speaker 1: of paper, just on a piece of paper? And he
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Speaker 1: wrote it big enough for him to see at a distance. Flaviani,
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Speaker 1: tell me, what were the injuries that you observed on
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Speaker 1: the little boy. I observed a big squestion between his eyebrows,
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Speaker 1: and after little bruise on the side of his eyes,
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Speaker 1: and after on his arms, and I knew it that
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Speaker 1: the bruise on his arm was was self defense. I
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Speaker 1: ENDUREDS two Karen Smith Francis expert hosts of Shattered Soul's
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Speaker 1: podcast Season two now starting Karen Smith, those are classic signs.
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Speaker 1: What did they tell you those particular injuries? They tell
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Speaker 1: me that this little boy was abused for a long time.
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Speaker 1: You know, we look at the bruises and you can
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Speaker 1: tell if they're healing, if they're fresh. These are the
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Speaker 1: things I would have to document. While I'm documenting them,
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Speaker 1: I'd also be talking to him and ask him, you know,
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Speaker 1: when did this happen? Do you remember how that happened?
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Speaker 1: And you know it's easy for me to see one
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Speaker 1: on his forearm and say, yeah, that might be a
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Speaker 1: defensive injury, but am I sure? That's when I start
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Speaker 1: very gently questioning the little boy. We would have to
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Speaker 1: go to the house. We would have to document everything
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Speaker 1: within that house, his bedroom, anything that he told me
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Speaker 1: or told the other investigators had happened. I would have
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Speaker 1: to go and document all of that. And let me
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Speaker 1: just say something, Nancy, I waited tables years ago before
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Speaker 1: I became a cop, and it is a case study
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Speaker 1: in psychology. You learned body language, you learn small facial
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Speaker 1: ticks and small things, and Flaviani just took all of
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Speaker 1: that in and it's an incredible story of her paying
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Speaker 1: attention to those small details. And it's also a lesson.
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Speaker 1: My god, if you see something, say something, so again,
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Speaker 1: a big, big hat tip to her. You saved this
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Speaker 1: little boy's mine. Flabby any Carvallo, you stated a bruise
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Speaker 1: near the eye and a bruise on I think you
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Speaker 1: said the wrist to me. That says that the child
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Speaker 1: was grabbed by the wrist and hit in the face,
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Speaker 1: and not with an open hand either. Let me ask you,
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Speaker 1: Flaviani Carvallo, you call nine one one. Then what happens?
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Speaker 1: About ten minutes later, the police officers show up. They
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Speaker 1: entered the historian, asked me to stay outside, and they
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Speaker 1: approached to the table to talk with them. They act
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Speaker 1: like nothing was happening, and they took the boy outside
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Speaker 1: to talk with him. What did the mom and dad
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Speaker 1: do when the police showed up? Nothing? They firsthand nothing
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Speaker 1: was happening. Guys, take a listen to Detective Aaron Aller.
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Speaker 1: On the evening of January first, twenty twenty one, a
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Speaker 1: family went into a local restaurant, Missus Potato, to have dinner.
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Speaker 1: The staff member, miss Carvallo, saw the family come in.
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Speaker 1: It was a father, a mother, and two children, an
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Speaker 1: eleven year old boy and a four year old girl.
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Speaker 1: Food was ordered. The son was denied the food, which
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Speaker 1: drew her attention. Law enforcement was notified. Officers responded to
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Speaker 1: the scene and an arrest was made of the father
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Speaker 1: that evening. Timothy Wilson the second too Raki Puto Lady
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Speaker 1: News anchor w dbo is the little boy, the eleven
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Speaker 1: year old victim and the four year old girl. Are
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Speaker 1: they biologically related? They're half siblings, Nancy. The little boy
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Speaker 1: is the son of Kristin Swan mother, and the little
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Speaker 1: girl is the daughter of both parents, Timothy Wilson and
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Speaker 1: Kristin Swan, So they're half civilis so the eleven year
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Speaker 1: old little boy is the bios son of thirty one
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Speaker 1: year old Kristen Swan and the stepson to Timothy Wilson.
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Speaker 1: The second Take a listen again to Detective Aaron Lawler.
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Speaker 1: The child was transported to the hospital due to his injuries.
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Speaker 1: Additional disclosures of abuse an abuse I say lately, it
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Speaker 1: was torture. To be completely honest that this child had
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Speaker 1: received at the hand of his stepfather was disclosed to DCF.
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Speaker 1: We did additional forensic interviews with the child on Monday
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Speaker 1: the fourth and on Tuesday the fifth, there were two arrestaurants,
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Speaker 1: one for the stepfather, Timothy Wilson, the second for additional
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Speaker 1: charges which included three counts of aggravated child abuse and
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Speaker 1: child neglect. There was also an arrestaurrant for the mother,
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Speaker 1: Christian Swan, for two counts of child niclas. Torture is
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Speaker 1: the perfect word. Why Take a listen to Deanna all
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Speaker 1: Britton WFTV nine. He had bruising across his face into
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Speaker 1: his eyelid. Both of his ear lobes were completely bruised.
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Speaker 1: Detective Aaron Lawler's is. The list of places the boys
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Speaker 1: showed horrifying signs of abuse was long. Even the night
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Speaker 1: that he was with officers. He had in pain and
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Speaker 1: rolling off his sleeves and questioning the child, Orlando police
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Speaker 1: say revealed the abuse wasn't new on Christmas Day. That's
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Speaker 1: when Lawler says the stepfather amplified the abuse and the
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Speaker 1: boy's mother didn't intervene. Instead, she says, they perverted the
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Speaker 1: joy Christmas brings to so many children for the parents.
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Speaker 1: Santa had suggested that he be punished. He was handcuffed
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Speaker 1: to a furniture dolly with his hands behind his back.
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Speaker 1: Let me understand what I just heard, Ray Kaputo. Did
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Speaker 1: I hear the reporter say, Santa suggested this little boy
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Speaker 1: be chained to a furniture dolly with his hands behind him. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you heard correctly. I mean, we're hearing a lot about
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Speaker 1: the physical abuse, but let's not even get into the
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Speaker 1: psychological abuse. Nancy, that that cuts much deeper. But but
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Speaker 1: they beat this kid, They messed with his mind. And
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Speaker 1: this is a little impressionable young eleven year old boy
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Speaker 1: whose brain is still being wired and all this trauma
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Speaker 1: is now going inside it. But they also beat them
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Speaker 1: with a wooden broom, They hung them upside down from
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Speaker 1: a door, and they regularly denied them food like they
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Speaker 1: did in this case it's terrible. Daphne, a young I'm
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Speaker 1: actually speechless, Daphne joining me from childhelp dot Org to say,
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Speaker 1: Santa told us to chain you to a furniture dolly
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Speaker 1: and beat you. We see this all the time, using
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Speaker 1: something that's supposed to be precious us to a child
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Speaker 1: to pervert it, twist it into an abusive element. We've
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Speaker 1: seen it. I'm going to beat the devil out of you.
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Speaker 1: We've seen it with Santa. We've seen it with a
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Speaker 1: childhood pet. If you say anything, you'll lose the cat
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Speaker 1: or the dog. And we've seen children like this little
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Speaker 1: one who go through our treatment programs, and the good
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Speaker 1: thing is we can make them love a Santa again
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Speaker 1: and make them feel safe from the devil or the
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Speaker 1: monster under their bed again. But one of the things
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Speaker 1: that always sticks to them is, you know, when Christmas
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Speaker 1: comes around, they're going to remember this. When we had
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Speaker 1: a little boy who was also ritually starved in an
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Speaker 1: abusive way, and every time he came for his therapy,
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Speaker 1: he just wanted to know that his therapist had a
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Speaker 1: candy bar for him in the drawer. He never even
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Speaker 1: ate the candy bar, he just wanted to know it
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Speaker 1: was there if he was hungry again. So this doesn't
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Speaker 1: leave their hearts. We can heal them, we can make
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Speaker 1: them better, we can make them enjoy the holidays again.
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Speaker 1: But there's only a little piece that's going to remember that,
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Speaker 1: and that breaks my heart. It's a loss of innocence.
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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace for those of you just
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Speaker 1: joining us with me now. An incredible guest who saved
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Speaker 1: an eleven year old little boy's life. Her name is
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Speaker 1: Flaviani Carvolo, manager at Miss Potato in Orlando. When she
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Speaker 1: knew something was horribly wrong with a little boy covered
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Speaker 1: in bruises, scratches, the only one in the family who
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Speaker 1: was not ordered food and didn't get any food, was
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Speaker 1: set away from the others, everything screaming abuse. Back to
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Speaker 1: our star, Flaviana Carvolo restaurant manager, what did the police
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Speaker 1: ask you when they took you out the parking lot?
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Speaker 1: They asked, what's happening? And I told you, I told
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Speaker 1: them really quickly. The injuries to this little boy are
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Speaker 1: beyond anything you could have seen under that hoodie. When
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Speaker 1: they stepdad and the mom were taken away, did you
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Speaker 1: make eye contact with or get to speak to the
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Speaker 1: little boy? Flaviani. No, I was not able to speak
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Speaker 1: with him again. So the only thing that I did
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Speaker 1: was when the police officers was talking with everyone there,
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Speaker 1: because they separate them sometimes. I was concerned with the
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Speaker 1: boy because he didn't eat with the family. So I
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Speaker 1: asked us teaching to make him a sandwich, and I
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Speaker 1: stayed out to give the sandwich and a drink to him,
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Speaker 1: and he grabbed the sandwich, say thank you, and I
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Speaker 1: thought that he didn't eat. He give the sandwich bro
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Speaker 1: to the mother. I wonder why, well, I wonder why
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Speaker 1: he would have done that. You know, he was starved,
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Speaker 1: Daphne young childhelp dot org. He must have been too
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Speaker 1: afraid to even eat the sandwich without being allowed to
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Speaker 1: by the mother because he's a bad boy, right, yeah, Fabiani,
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Speaker 1: were you saying something? Yeah? I think he was so
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Speaker 1: um suber missed. This is why he didn't eat. Well,
31:44
Speaker 1: we've certainly learned a lot about mommy. Even if she
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Speaker 1: didn't beat the child herself, which she's also charged with
31:54
Speaker 1: child abuse, she stood by and let this man, this stepfather,
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Speaker 1: bait her child. I don't understand it. To Ray Kapetero
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Speaker 1: lad Knees anchor w DBO what do we know about
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Speaker 1: this stepfather. Well, he's like a three hundred and sixty
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Speaker 1: pound monster, Nancy who beats kids. He has a history
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Speaker 1: of this. He was married to a woman before and
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Speaker 1: she had two small kids, and there was a history
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Speaker 1: of violence. She ended up divorcing mister Wilson because he
32:26
Speaker 1: was beating her two and four year old kids, you know.
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Speaker 1: And this is a mother too, lor She's saying, don't
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Speaker 1: do this, they're too small to do this. But this
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Speaker 1: guy couldn't keep his hands off of these children, and
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Speaker 1: he continued it with this eleven year old boy who
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Speaker 1: was twenty pounds under weight, had bruises all over him.
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Speaker 1: So you can we imagine where this was all going
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Speaker 1: to go if this wasn't stopped by miss Carvallo by
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Speaker 1: just by chance. I'm looking at the police report now.
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Speaker 1: And in a previous relationship, he took great joy at
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Speaker 1: beating the woman's child, and the second time it happened
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Speaker 1: and she told him to stop and then ended up
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Speaker 1: kicking him to the curb for the only reason he
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Speaker 1: kept beating her child. I don't understand the psychology, doctor
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Speaker 1: Angela Arnold, of a mother standing by and watching their
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Speaker 1: child be abused. Well, Nancy, I know it's very difficult
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Speaker 1: to understand these and it doesn't matter how many of
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Speaker 1: these stories we hear, we always have the same reaction
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Speaker 1: to them. Nobody can ever understand how someone can do us.
33:31
Speaker 1: Is it's so interesting that that is the same reaction
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Speaker 1: we always have. And it's because those of us who
33:39
Speaker 1: do not think like these monsters think cannot We can't
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Speaker 1: even get close to how they can do us because
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Speaker 1: they have absolutely no remorse. They have scared everyone in
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Speaker 1: the family. I'm not making any excuses for the mother,
33:55
Speaker 1: but there are reasons why she's with this monster. It
33:59
Speaker 1: could be financial reasons. She could be very unstable financially
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Speaker 1: and whatnot. And oftentimes people will look the other way
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Speaker 1: when things like that, when when they're in that sort
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Speaker 1: of situation, she may be afraid of going to be
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Speaker 1: very not impressed with anything that you just said, Doctor Angela.
34:18
Speaker 1: Take a listen to this doctor Angie quote. It should
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Speaker 1: be noted the little boy was in pain just by
34:24
Speaker 1: simply rolling up his jacket sleeves to show his injuries.
34:29
Speaker 1: Just to roll up his sleeves, it hurt him. He
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Speaker 1: had chest pains and he was hunched over in pain
34:37
Speaker 1: there at the restaurant to our hero Flamani Cravolo, Miss Cravolo.
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Speaker 1: What was the mother doing during all of this while
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Speaker 1: her son, her child, was not being given any food.
34:51
Speaker 1: She is a lot. I seem like he was not there.
34:57
Speaker 1: That's simple. She's acting like he's wasn't off there. I'm
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Speaker 1: looking at a shot of Flaviana Caravalo right now standing
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Speaker 1: in front of the restaurant. It's specialty Brazilian dishes. Here's
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Speaker 1: another quote for you. It was an act of God.
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Speaker 1: He was sitting in the only seat in the restaurant
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Speaker 1: where I could show him the note without his parents seeing. Flaviani,
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Speaker 1: Is that true? That was the only seat in the
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Speaker 1: restaurant where you could show him that note without the
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Speaker 1: parents seeing. Yes, it's true. God puts him there. I
35:32
Speaker 1: know that the alleged perp in this case. Mommy. Thirty
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Speaker 1: one year old Kristen Swann got together with Wilson, a divorcee.
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Speaker 1: We know why he's divorced. He served in the military.
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Speaker 1: They've been together for six years, and her Twitter handle
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Speaker 1: reads I'm a fun loving Bama fan. I love my fiance, Tim,
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Speaker 1: my son and my daughter. I love watching movies as
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Speaker 1: her sound like a normal person. How would you ever
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Speaker 1: suspect someone that's so seemingly normal is standing by while
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Speaker 1: their son is being shamed up and hung upside down
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Speaker 1: to be beaten. I mean, Daphne Young, You've got to
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Speaker 1: see this every day where everything looks fine on the outside,
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Speaker 1: but it's a chamber of horrors on the inside. Well,
36:24
Speaker 1: that's the scariest part. These are the neighbors, these are
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Speaker 1: people down the street, These are people eating at a
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Speaker 1: cafe on New Year's Eve, right, These are normal quote
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Speaker 1: unquote people until you look behind the curtain and the
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Speaker 1: watchful eyes. You know, I heard a guest talk about waitressing.
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Speaker 1: I've also done that when I was in college till
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Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning. And it is the best
36:48
Speaker 1: sociology you will ever happen life because exactly that it
36:52
Speaker 1: teaches you what to look for. You know, when she
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Speaker 1: saw a little boy that seemed twenty pounds underweight, he
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Speaker 1: see skinny, Flaviani said, And that is just perfect. She's
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Speaker 1: starting to put pieces together, and she doesn't have to
37:06
Speaker 1: know the whole answer exactly, just to go on that
37:09
Speaker 1: instinct is amazing. A sign and a nod, a quick
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Speaker 1: yet thinking waitress saves a little boy's life. If you
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Speaker 1: want to donate to flavianis go fund me's go fund
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Speaker 1: three seven R. It's also listed at crime online dot com. Flaviannah,
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Speaker 1: when you look back at what happened, when you think
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Speaker 1: about what you saw, what you did, what goes through
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Speaker 1: your mind? Ah. Of first, I thank God to let
37:46
Speaker 1: me see the boy. Um it's uh, it's form of
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Speaker 1: feelings inside me when I remember, I get upside because
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Speaker 1: of the situation. I get angry because of the monsters,
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Speaker 1: and um, I feel sorry for the boy. And but
38:21
Speaker 1: I feel also glad that that night the sulfuring of
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Speaker 1: the boy uh wasn't stopped thanks to you, Ranka puter.
38:34
Speaker 1: Where is the little boy now? He's back with his
38:37
Speaker 1: biological father. The biological father hadn't had much contact because
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Speaker 1: he said that his relationship with the biological mom the
38:45
Speaker 1: swam was so stream. So if there's hopefully this is
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Speaker 1: a silver lining that this little boys fell back with
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Speaker 1: his biological father. He says he actually talked to miss
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Speaker 1: Carballo and he thanked her from the bottom of his
38:56
Speaker 1: heart and said that what she did was amazing, so
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Speaker 1: woefully that that relationship gets better than This little boy
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Speaker 1: has some time to heal, be a little boy. If
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Speaker 1: you want to thank if Flaviani Caravallo, you can do
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Speaker 1: that by going to her go fund me site. You know, Flaviani,
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Speaker 1: people question, is God at work in our world? Are
39:19
Speaker 1: there angels amongst us? And you have just affirmed that
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Speaker 1: over and over and over. God bless you. We pray
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Speaker 1: for this little boy and his life going forward. Nancy
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Speaker 1: Gray's Crime Story signing off Goodbye friend,