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Riots in France, Trump's Lasting Legacy, and the Power of Miracles · That KEVIN Show

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  Speaker 1: Somewhere in the bowels of the city that never sleeps.
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  Speaker 2: Kevin McCullough, radio host with Salem Media.
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  Speaker 3: Some breaking news today in that story that has just
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  Speaker 3: come to be known as the Cornell 7. Protesters on
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  Speaker 3: the campus of Cornell University have shown up in huge numbers,
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  Speaker 3: swarming the campus to support the supposed Jane Doe and
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  Speaker 3: calling for the university president's resignation. Here's how Fox News
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  Speaker 3: is reporting it. Faculty at Cornell University... are weighing a
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  Speaker 3: vote of no confidence in the school's administration as student
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  Speaker 3: protesters take over the campus in response to sexual assault allegations.
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  Speaker 3: The no-confidence resolution has secured more than 40 of the
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  Speaker 3: Faculty Senate's 75 voting members, according to the resolution's sponsor.
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  Speaker 3: As you may suspect, we were approached in our capacity
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  Speaker 3: as faculty senators by numerous Cornell colleagues demanding action. Many
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  Speaker 3: of these faculty, including myself, were approached by students at
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  Speaker 3: Cornell who were upset that fearful for their personal safety,
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  Speaker 3: and wanting our university to address the perennial problem of
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  Speaker 3: sexual assault on campus, Ortiz wrote. Cornell President Michael Kotlikoff
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  Speaker 3: also faced questions from the student body during a campus
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  Speaker 3: assembly on Monday as protests took over the college. We're
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  Speaker 3: not hiding anything at Cornell, Kotlikoff told the students. You
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  Speaker 3: will hear proposals from us going forward around what we're
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  Speaker 3: going to do to try and improve this culture and
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  Speaker 3: address the problem. Kotlikoff has so far dismissed students' calls
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  Speaker 3: for his resignation. By the way, I think that's exactly
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  Speaker 3: the right play for him. I think this is a really,
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  Speaker 3: really questionable thing for these students to go to the
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  Speaker 3: wall on.
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  Speaker 1: And here's why.
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  Speaker 3: If you're just joining us, seven former Chi Phi fraternity
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  Speaker 3: brothers are accused in a lawsuit of drugging and raping
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  Speaker 3: a female Cornell student during a night of drinking, drugs,
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  Speaker 3: and group sex at their fraternity house in October of 2024.
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  Speaker 3: At the time, the accuser identified in court papers by
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  Speaker 3: the pseudonym Jane Doe alleged that the men sexually assaulted
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  Speaker 3: her after she arrived intoxicated and was pressured into taking
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  Speaker 3: ketamine and other substances the men have denied wrongdoing with
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  Speaker 3: maintaining contact. The sexual activity was consensual. Others denying they
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  Speaker 3: participated in it. No criminal charges have been filed against
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  Speaker 3: the seven men. And friends, I would say that that's
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  Speaker 3: rather significant. If the seven individuals, and this was all
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  Speaker 3: looked into two years ago, and do you want to
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  Speaker 3: know why it didn't rise to the level of criminal charges?
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  Speaker 3: Because the testimony of the complainant said that that what
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  Speaker 3: she engaged in with them was legal, consensual, and in
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  Speaker 3: her words, voluntary. She said that in a text to
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  Speaker 3: one of the men she's now charging with the assault charges.
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  Speaker 3: She said, I did what I did with you under
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  Speaker 3: my own free will. I voluntarily did it. She also
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  Speaker 3: indicated that she took the ketamine and as under her
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  Speaker 3: own power and that everything that she did and she said,
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  Speaker 3: and in fact, I enjoyed being with you and one
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  Speaker 3: other boy of the seven that were there. She's like,
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  Speaker 3: I really enjoyed being with you too. Well, what are
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  Speaker 3: you supposed to, at this point, at this point in this,
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  Speaker 3: in the game, two years later, after this was looked
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  Speaker 3: into and your own words were taken at face value,
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  Speaker 3: we're supposed to believe now that, that you were somehow
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  Speaker 3: tricked into saying all of that stuff when that was
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  Speaker 3: your own private text to one of the boys involved? Friends,
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  Speaker 3: there's a big spiritual component to this story, and it
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  Speaker 3: is very simple. When we do things as creations of God,
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  Speaker 3: when we do things as beings that he created, and
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  Speaker 3: we were created and designed with purpose, to flourish. We
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  Speaker 3: were designed with purpose to excel, to find gifts and
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  Speaker 3: to blow those gifts up and to become really good
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  Speaker 3: at them. All of that potential is put into us
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  Speaker 3: as creations of God. When we take the stuff that
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  Speaker 3: he says, hey, don't do this stuff, it will keep
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  Speaker 3: you from flourishing. And sometimes the way it keeps you
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  Speaker 3: from flourishing is by making you feel not so great
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  Speaker 3: about the stuff you just did. Not all guilt is
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  Speaker 3: bad guilt. My Catholic friends all the time are yarning
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  Speaker 3: on and on about Catholic guilt this and Catholic guilt.
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  Speaker 3: Guilt is not bad. Guilt lets us know when something
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  Speaker 3: is amiss. Guilt lets us know when something is not
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  Speaker 3: quite right. And the facts of this case are that
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  Speaker 3: before she left her dorm, her place of residence that night,
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  Speaker 3: she had already consumed 10 alcoholic drinks. Maybe they were shots.
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  Speaker 3: So you say, well, they're not really a drink. Well,
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  Speaker 3: same amount of alcohol. But she had already consumed 10
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  Speaker 3: of them before leaving. She shows up at the party
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  Speaker 3: with 10 drinks in her and the guy that invited her,
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  Speaker 3: who she kind of liked, who she was kind of
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  Speaker 3: crushing on, asked her if she wanted to do some
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  Speaker 3: ketamine and she was down. And then over the next
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  Speaker 3: number of hours, all night, going all the way until
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  Speaker 3: like five o'clock the next morning, she's involved sexually with
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  Speaker 3: several different people that are there. This is a family-friendly show.
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  Speaker 3: I'm trying to be self-editing here. You wake up the
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  Speaker 3: next morning with regret, and regret in this culture will
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  Speaker 3: turn into lawsuits that are not legitimate. I don't often
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  Speaker 3: take stands on some of these types of stories and cases.
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  Speaker 3: I believe that all of the people involved that night
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  Speaker 3: were morally way out of control. Do I think that
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  Speaker 3: she was foolish in putting herself in that situation from
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  Speaker 3: the get-go absolutely and I think it is bogus for
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  Speaker 3: her to come back now and to say wait a
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  Speaker 3: minute wait a minute I didn't feel the way about
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  Speaker 3: it after I the way I made it sound like
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  Speaker 3: I did these guys really did you know have a
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  Speaker 3: conspiracy to get me into gang rape me and all
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  Speaker 3: the rest no no you were just immoral so were
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  Speaker 3: they You were all immoral and you woke up regretting
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  Speaker 3: your choices, which is actually healthy because those are bad
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  Speaker 3: choices to make. But you've even accused some of the
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  Speaker 3: boys that have now hired lawyers that are saying they
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  Speaker 3: don't even, they didn't even have any contact with her.
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  Speaker 3: I hope that Cornell and Letitia James, who's now jumped
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  Speaker 3: in with two feet, I hope that they don't, I
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  Speaker 3: hope that they don't ruin the lives of people that
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  Speaker 3: are involved here, hers or the young men's everybody makes
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  Speaker 3: mistakes this was a pretty significant one but i don't
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  Speaker 3: think that there's a hero in any of this and
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  Speaker 3: i certainly don't want to see innocent people be dragged
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  Speaker 3: into it gavin mccullough we've got a lot more to
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  Speaker 3: get to we're going to ask the big question next
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  Speaker 3: how do we live don't go anywhere.
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  Speaker 6: Anywhere.
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  Speaker 2: Here he is from New York.
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  Speaker 7: That Kevin.
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  Speaker 3: Kevin McCullough. Welcome back. Kevin McCullough, glad to have you
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  Speaker 3: with us. It's That Kevin Show, thatkevinshow.com. Always pleased to
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  Speaker 3: have you with us. And here at the beginning of
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  Speaker 3: the show, the first part of the show, early part
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  Speaker 3: of the show, we always ask the same question every
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  Speaker 3: day at this time. How do we live? How are
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  Speaker 3: we supposed to live in a culture that really doesn't
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  Speaker 3: have any use for God, really resents his word? really
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  Speaker 3: kind of looks at us in best case scenario as
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  Speaker 3: kind of strange ducklings walking through life or in worst
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  Speaker 3: case scenario, actually very hostile towards what we believe and
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  Speaker 3: what we want to express publicly. How do we live
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  Speaker 3: in that context? I argue every day, it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 3: We stay on mission. We stay winsome with the gospel.
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  Speaker 3: We stay penetrating with truth into the discussion. We try
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  Speaker 3: to put the worldview of the biblical revelation of God
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  Speaker 3: with us into the ether as best we can. Joining
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  Speaker 3: me this week, as you know, we do this with
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  Speaker 3: a shepherd every week. And joining me this week is
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  Speaker 3: Senior Pastor Bill Bailey of Journey by Grace Church in Pennsylvania.
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  Speaker 3: And I got to know him a little bit yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: He's just marked a milestone of of 52 years in
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  Speaker 3: the pastorate, and yet sounded surprisingly spry for having done
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  Speaker 3: it that long. So Bill, I congratulate you. If I
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  Speaker 3: sound as young as you when I get done doing
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  Speaker 3: my stuff for that long, I'm going to be really happy.
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  Speaker 3: We started our discussion in Matthew 11, and just these
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  Speaker 3: three verses, 28 through 30, and we're going to dig
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  Speaker 3: a little deeper in them today.
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  Speaker 7: Okay.
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  Speaker 8: That sounds good to me, and thank you for letting
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  Speaker 8: me share.
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  Speaker 9: This with everyone.
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  Speaker 10: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 8: Matthew 11, of course, is a very significant invitation of Jesus.
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  Speaker 8: He's calling men and women everywhere to himself. And I'll
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  Speaker 8: read the text and then we'll make a few comments.
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  Speaker 10: Here we go.
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  Speaker 8: 1128, Jesus said, Come unto me, all of you who
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  Speaker 8: labor and are heavy laden, And I will give you rest.
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  Speaker 9: Take my yoke upon you and learn of me, for
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  Speaker 9: I am meek and lowly in heart.
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  Speaker 8: And then he says, you will find rest for your soul.
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  Speaker 8: Then the last statement here, verse 30, for my yoke
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  Speaker 8: is easy, my burden is light. The passage begins with
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  Speaker 8: just this general invitation to those who labor. I would
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  Speaker 8: suggest this could be referring to men and women who
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  Speaker 8: are laboring to be good enough to experience the acceptance
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  Speaker 8: of God. Those who are heavy laden are those who
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  Speaker 8: are weighted and burdened down perhaps by Things such as
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  Speaker 8: guilt and shame and bondages of one kind or another.
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  Speaker 8: And then Jesus promises, I will give you rest. I
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  Speaker 8: think he's referring here to our spiritual rest. The rest
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  Speaker 8: that we experience when we receive Christ into our life
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  Speaker 8: and our spirit then is made alive to God. And
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  Speaker 8: God gives us an all new spiritual life. And then
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  Speaker 8: he calls us to live out that spiritual life.
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  Speaker 9: For example, he says, take my yoke upon you. Take
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  Speaker 9: my yoke upon you.
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  Speaker 8: I'm not exactly sure what that means, but it seems
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  Speaker 8: to suggest that we are to come under his command.
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  Speaker 8: authority we are to hook up with him we are
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  Speaker 8: to live from here on in agreement with him and
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  Speaker 8: allowing him to take us where he wants us to
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  Speaker 8: go that's important coming under the rule coming under the
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  Speaker 8: authority of of our lord and then he says and
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  Speaker 8: learn of me learn of me this is so so critical.
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  Speaker 9: Learning of Jesus.
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  Speaker 8: We come into our relationship with the Lord and we're
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  Speaker 8: essentially a blank slate. I know in my own life
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  Speaker 8: when I was converted at the age of 22, I.
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  Speaker 9: Really didn't know anything.
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  Speaker 8: I met a man on the street who gave me
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  Speaker 8: the gospel and I was taken by the fact that
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  Speaker 8: the life of God was exuding from his personality.
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  Speaker 9: And it just was so attractive. It drew me in.
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  Speaker 8: And I listened to his message. I received Christ. And
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  Speaker 8: then I began a mission of learning, learning.
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  Speaker 1: Learning, learning.
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  Speaker 8: And there's nothing more important than this as believers. We
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  Speaker 8: have to consistently take in the word of God line
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  Speaker 8: by line, Memorize it, commit it to heart, and we
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  Speaker 8: need to trust the Lord to metabolize that truth into.
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  Speaker 4: Our spiritual life.
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  Speaker 8: Well, I'm suggesting we take in the Word of God consistently,
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  Speaker 8: and the Holy Spirit will take that truth and metabolize
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  Speaker 8: it into our spiritual life. And we will experience the
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  Speaker 8: strength and he will extract from that what we need
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  Speaker 8: to walk in the energy.
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  Speaker 4: And power of his grace.
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  Speaker 8: So metabolizing God's word consistently day in, day out, to
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  Speaker 8: some degree every day. And then Jesus adds to that.
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  Speaker 8: He says, Learn of me, and then he tells us,
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  Speaker 8: for I am meek and lowly in heart. Why he
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  Speaker 8: said that, I'm thinking perhaps he said it because coming
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  Speaker 8: under his rule and giving up our control can be
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  Speaker 8: quite intimidating, and it looks fearful to us.
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  Speaker 9: And Jesus is saying, look, here's This is me.
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  Speaker 8: Here is the way I am.
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  Speaker 9: I am meek.
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  Speaker 10: I am humble. I am lowly.
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  Speaker 8: You can trust me to give your life over. I
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  Speaker 8: will take control and lead you into the very best
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  Speaker 8: that I have for you. And then after Jesus says
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  Speaker 8: all of that to us, he said, and you will
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  Speaker 8: find rest for your souls.
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  Speaker 9: Now I would.
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  Speaker 8: Submit to you that the rest of the first verse
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  Speaker 8: and the rest in this second verse are very different. Uh,
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  Speaker 8: the first rest refers to that spiritual rest. When we
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  Speaker 8: learn to rest our life in the Lord and spiritually,
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  Speaker 8: we are made alive to God and his spirit bears
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  Speaker 8: witness with our new spirit.
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  Speaker 9: Um, Here, I think it's different.
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  Speaker 8: This is the rest in our soul, in our inner life.
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  Speaker 8: I would liken it to what Paul talks about in
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  Speaker 8: the letter to the Philippian church, where he talks about
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  Speaker 8: the peace of God. There is peace with God, and
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  Speaker 8: then there is the peace of God. God's peace is
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  Speaker 8: permeating us. In fact, he says that it's a peace
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  Speaker 8: beyond all human understanding.
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  Speaker 9: And of course, every believer.
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  Speaker 8: Has that kind of an experience. I have seen so
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  Speaker 8: many believers stand by coffins of loved ones.
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  Speaker 9: And yet be there.
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  Speaker 8: Unbroken and realizing that God has the best in view
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  Speaker 8: and the peace of God just kind of permeates their life.
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  Speaker 8: That to me is just rich. And then of course, lastly,
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  Speaker 8: Jesus said for my.
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  Speaker 9: Yoke is easy and it seems incongruent, doesn't it?
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  Speaker 8: Uh, an easy yoke coming under that big, heavy wooden burden. Um,
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  Speaker 8: human viewpoint often gets us in trouble with God. And
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  Speaker 8: human viewpoint looks at this call to become a Christian,
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  Speaker 8: and we see it with fearful eyes, perhaps.
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  Speaker 9: I know I did. I was very intimidated but I
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  Speaker 9: just couldn't.
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  Speaker 8: Walk away. This yoke that you take onto yourself in
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  Speaker 8: partnership with Jesus surprisingly it is an easy yoke.
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  Speaker 3: Let's If we can, Bill, because we're out of time,
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  Speaker 3: but let's wrap up there for today and come back
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  Speaker 3: and maybe focus on what a light yoke looks like
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  Speaker 3: and why that burden is different than what we might
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  Speaker 3: perceive it in the human understanding. I loved your statement.
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  Speaker 3: Human understanding can disrupt humanity. God's plan. We don't want
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  Speaker 3: to be guilty of that. I think this is a
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  Speaker 3: good reminder. Bill Bailey, thank you so much. We look
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  Speaker 3: forward to working with you again tomorrow. It's Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 3: We've got a big show straight ahead. Don't go away.
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  Speaker 2: Stick around for more of That Kevin next. Here he
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  Speaker 2: is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 7: Welcome back to That Kevin Show.
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  Speaker 3: Kevin McCullough, glad to have you with us, thatkevinshow.com. Glad
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  Speaker 3: to have Adam Savit back with us. He's the director
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  Speaker 3: of China policy for the America First Policy Institute. And Adam,
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  Speaker 3: China is always seemingly up to something. A lot of
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  Speaker 3: people thought that the president, They didn't really understand the
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  Speaker 3: president's kind of approach with Xi Jinping when he was
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  Speaker 3: here a couple of weeks ago. But when it comes
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  Speaker 3: to like an overall strategy, no one plays the long
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  Speaker 3: game like China. No one tries to dip their fingers
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  Speaker 3: in as many pieces of the pie as they can
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  Speaker 3: the way they do. Talk to me about Syngenta, a
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  Speaker 3: company that we've never heard of, most of us. And
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  Speaker 3: what is significant about them?
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  Speaker 10: That's right, Kevin.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, China will grab whatever supply chains they can.
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  Speaker 11: I mean, most famously and related to the Trump-Xi summit,
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  Speaker 11: they try to have leverage through the rare earth elements.
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  Speaker 11: But what a lot of people don't know, their hands
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  Speaker 11: are in a lot of supply chains. One big one
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  Speaker 11: is the crop input. OK, that is a crop protection rather.
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  Speaker 11: That is pesticides, herbicides, in other words, weed killers, as
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  Speaker 11: well as seeds, seed trade technologies, basically breeding the seeds
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  Speaker 11: and exporting the seeds that our farmers use.
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  Speaker 10: So, yes, Syngenta, most Americans haven't heard of it.
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  Speaker 11: All corn and soybean farmers have because they deal with
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  Speaker 11: them because they're one of the top four sellers of
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  Speaker 11: seeds and crop protection in the United States.
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  Speaker 10: Farmers are dependent on them.
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  Speaker 11: Luckily, the administration has the Farm Security Action Plan, which
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  Speaker 11: is focused on, number one, protecting our land from CCC purchases,
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  Speaker 11: but number two, protecting our supply chains. And pesticides and
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  Speaker 11: seeds are the keys to a stable and fruitful crop
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  Speaker 11: and harvest.
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  Speaker 3: When you think about it, it's kind of genius because
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  Speaker 3: they are pressing on the AI front. They are pressing
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  Speaker 3: international relationships where they've been able to have some success,
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  Speaker 3: especially in the Biden years, wielding a lot of influence
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: in governments and relationships in South America and Central America
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: and on the continent of Africa and, of course, Southeast Asia.
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: But they're not satisfied with just wielding influence in one
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: particular way. So they're fighting for AI. They're fighting for
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: these connections. But they go, what's more basic to world
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: survival than food? And you need land and you need
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: seeds to grow food. So we'll just we'll just choke
• 23:47
  Speaker 3: them out on land and seeds.
• 23:50
  Speaker 10: Absolutely.
• 23:50
  Speaker 11: And think about the leverage it provides in the case
• 23:53
  Speaker 11: of a hot war, you know, over Taiwan in the
• 23:55
  Speaker 11: South China Sea, you know, or a near war situation,
• 23:58
  Speaker 11: a blockade of Taiwan, which has been floated as a
• 24:02
  Speaker 11: possibility from Beijing. Let me let me point out one
• 24:05
  Speaker 11: specific choke point.
• 24:06
  Speaker 10: OK, it's called atrazine. That is an herbicide, a weed
• 24:11
  Speaker 10: killer that is used on corn. It's used on.
• 24:13
  Speaker 11: 75 percent of the corn crop in the United States.
• 24:17
  Speaker 10: Get this.
• 24:18
  Speaker 11: Syngenta invented atrazine. Syngenta is the only producer of atrazine
• 24:23
  Speaker 11: in the United States. That's in one plant in Louisiana.
• 24:27
  Speaker 11: How about that for a choke point? OK, and but
• 24:29
  Speaker 11: the way we combat this. is to embrace President Trump's
• 24:33
  Speaker 11: industrial policy. You know, we're reassuring steel. There was just
• 24:36
  Speaker 11: a huge steel plant built in Iowa. Of course, we're
• 24:39
  Speaker 11: dealing with shipbuilding with our Korean friends. We're rebuilding in
• 24:43
  Speaker 11: the Philadelphia shipyard.
• 24:45
  Speaker 10: We need to reassure.
• 24:47
  Speaker 11: We need to reindustrialize also in the crop industry. And
• 24:50
  Speaker 11: of course, one of their goals is to be able
• 24:53
  Speaker 11: to feed themselves. So what they do is they grab
• 24:57
  Speaker 11: that technology and they use it in order to become
• 24:59
  Speaker 11: food self-sufficient.
• 25:00
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 25:00
  Speaker 11: And that'll remove some leverage that we have over them
• 25:03
  Speaker 11: currently because we are able to export soybeans to them.
• 25:07
  Speaker 3: We're talking all things China with Adam Savit of the
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: America First Policy Institute. On Sunday, the FBI arrested a
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: Chinese agent. This popped up on several of my radar
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: screens yesterday and today. Who was she?
• 25:20
  Speaker 10: Who is she?
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: What was she doing here? What do we know?
• 25:23
  Speaker 10: So she was a naturalized U.S. citizen.
• 25:25
  Speaker 11: And, yeah, she was nabbed at LAX. But actually, the
• 25:28
  Speaker 11: main act that she was caught in was spying up
• 25:31
  Speaker 11: in Seattle. She was staking out a house which belonged
• 25:35
  Speaker 11: to the son of the Taiwanese president, William Lai. OK,
• 25:39
  Speaker 11: so she was gathering information, getting his car license plate,
• 25:41
  Speaker 11: getting his movements.
• 25:43
  Speaker 10: Tracking his son.
• 25:45
  Speaker 11: And imagine, again, in a war scenario, the leverage you
• 25:48
  Speaker 11: could bring on the leader of Taiwan. As a hot
• 25:52
  Speaker 11: war is going on over there, you start leveraging his
• 25:55
  Speaker 11: son over here.
• 25:56
  Speaker 10: And she was also involved in other.
• 25:58
  Speaker 11: Propaganda operations as well. She was in direct contact, allegedly,
• 26:03
  Speaker 11: with agents of the Chinese state, both over there in
• 26:06
  Speaker 11: Beijing and here in California.
• 26:08
  Speaker 10: And also, she apparently lived a very fancy lifestyle.
• 26:11
  Speaker 11: According to her social media A lot of trips to Europe,
• 26:14
  Speaker 11: a lot of trips to Asia.
• 26:16
  Speaker 10: So, yeah, a very exciting life for her.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: Well, and if I if I remember correctly, there was
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: one Mr. Swalwell in Congress that seemed to have gotten
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: mixed up with a Chinese spy.
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: How do these.
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: Women like because they're very kind of like couth and
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: how they go about it.
• 26:36
  Speaker 12: Right.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: It's very like seems natural and nonchalant. And then the
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: next thing you know. They're turning over massive amounts of
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: secrets to the Chinese authorities. He was particularly reckless and
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: kind of stupid, I think. But but it didn't necessarily
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: cut her off when everything was when when he kind
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: of realized who she was.
• 26:57
  Speaker 10: So.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: Like, what's the deal?
• 26:59
  Speaker 11: Right, that's one kind of agent, that's one kind of persuasion,
• 27:03
  Speaker 11: but they throw everything at the wall. You know, also
• 27:05
  Speaker 11: in Arcadia, California, a government official was engaged in propaganda
• 27:11
  Speaker 11: on behalf of the CCP. In the New York governor's office,
• 27:14
  Speaker 11: a woman named Linda Sun, under both Governor Cuomo and
• 27:17
  Speaker 11: the current Governor Focal, was engaged in propaganda. She was
• 27:22
  Speaker 11: in a place in the office where she could draft,
• 27:25
  Speaker 11: or rather edit, at least, speeches.
• 27:28
  Speaker 10: That the governor was giving.
• 27:29
  Speaker 11: So when these speeches would be in praise of Taiwan
• 27:32
  Speaker 11: or when they would outline the Uyghur genocide in Western China.
• 27:35
  Speaker 10: Xi would edit.
• 27:37
  Speaker 11: So that's just one, you know, they place them.
• 27:40
  Speaker 10: Very high and very low. They sort of do a scattershot.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: Well, and this is one of the reasons why the
• 27:44
  Speaker 3: Trump administration is taking them so seriously. Adam Savit of
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: America First Policy Institute, thanks for all that you're doing.
• 27:50
  Speaker 10: Thank you, Kevin.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Kevin McCullough coming right back.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: Don't go away.
• 28:08
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• 28:15
  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: It's That Kevin Show, thatkevinshow.com. Glad to have you with us.
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• 28:25
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• 28:28
  Speaker 3: He is the head legal guru watching all the things
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: related to the major legal cases, particularly the Supreme Court.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: that we're dealing with on a regular basis. And Zach,
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: it's that time of year again. They've opened the new session.
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: And for my listeners who have never heard us have
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: this conversation in the past, how many tickets are on
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: the docket this year? How many cases will they see
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: and hear and argue about and think through and then
• 28:56
  Speaker 3: ultimately decide by sometime next June or July?
• 28:59
  Speaker 13: Yeah, great question, Kevin, and thanks for having me on
• 29:02
  Speaker 13: to talk about it. So each year, the Supreme Court
• 29:04
  Speaker 13: typically hears somewhere between 65 to 80 cases. That's the
• 29:08
  Speaker 13: average over the past several years. So far for this
• 29:11
  Speaker 13: upcoming term, the court has agreed to hear about 30 cases.
• 29:15
  Speaker 13: So they still have over half of the cases that
• 29:17
  Speaker 13: they'll hear outstanding. They haven't yet decided which other cases
• 29:21
  Speaker 13: will fill those remaining 30 to 40 slots. But of
• 29:25
  Speaker 13: the 30 cases they've already agreed to hear, there are
• 29:28
  Speaker 13: some very big cases involving climate change, religious liberty, parental rights,
• 29:33
  Speaker 13: and a host of other issues as well.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: So let's talk about those ones that you just mentioned
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: on the parental rights, what are they looking at this session?
• 29:43
  Speaker 13: Yeah, so there's a big case out of Washington state. Unfortunately,
• 29:47
  Speaker 13: the state of Washington changed their law where essentially they're
• 29:50
  Speaker 13: treating parents who will not affirm their child's chosen gender
• 29:53
  Speaker 13: if it differs from their biological sex. The state of
• 29:56
  Speaker 13: Washington is treating those parents essentially as abusive parents. And
• 30:00
  Speaker 13: so if a child leaves the home, goes to a shelter,
• 30:03
  Speaker 13: the state of Washington may delay returning that child to
• 30:06
  Speaker 13: the parent, may refuse to turn that child to the parent.
• 30:09
  Speaker 13: And so a group of parents are bringing a lawsuit
• 30:12
  Speaker 13: to challenge that new law. Now, the issue the court
• 30:15
  Speaker 13: will decide, they're not actually looking at whether or not
• 30:18
  Speaker 13: the state of Washington can enact that law. The court
• 30:21
  Speaker 13: is simply being asked to decide a question of standing,
• 30:24
  Speaker 13: whether these parents can bring this suit at this time.
• 30:27
  Speaker 13: And so we'll have to wait and see what the
• 30:29
  Speaker 13: court decides.
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: We've had similar cases weigh in on aspects of this.
• 30:38
  Speaker 3: Has the court shown a leaning in the past?
• 30:41
  Speaker 13: Yeah, I think the court has.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I think they've trended towards parental sovereignty in almost all cases.
• 30:46
  Speaker 13: Yes, I think they have. But what's interesting, though, Kevin,
• 30:49
  Speaker 13: in a lot of those cases we typically think of
• 30:51
  Speaker 13: as parental rights cases. Really, they haven't been about is
• 30:55
  Speaker 13: there a right, a fundamental right of parents to raise
• 30:58
  Speaker 13: their children as they see fit? Often they present as
• 31:01
  Speaker 13: free speech or free exercise cases. Think back to the
• 31:04
  Speaker 13: Mahmoud versus Taylor case just last term, where essentially parents
• 31:08
  Speaker 13: were seeking to opt their children out of pretty radical
• 31:12
  Speaker 13: LGBTQIA plus transgender type curriculums that were being taught to
• 31:18
  Speaker 13: very young elementary school children. The court said the parents
• 31:22
  Speaker 13: did have a right to opt their children out of
• 31:24
  Speaker 13: that curriculum, but they fundamentally found it was a First
• 31:27
  Speaker 13: Amendment right for those parents to do that. And so
• 31:30
  Speaker 13: the court hasn't addressed for many, many years the fundamental
• 31:34
  Speaker 13: right of parents to raise their children as they see fit.
• 31:38
  Speaker 13: But it certainly could, in this case, in a future iteration,
• 31:42
  Speaker 13: if they find that here the parents have standing legal
• 31:45
  Speaker 13: ability to bring this case.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Well, to make that happen, you've got to have the
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: Chief Justice slide back down the other side. And I'm
• 31:55
  Speaker 3: hopeful that he will have the.
• 31:59
  Speaker 3: I don't know, the insight to do the right thing,
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: although he's disappointed on some of the biggest controversial cases, Oberfell, Obamacare,
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: some of those cases. He didn't stay true to his
• 32:12
  Speaker 3: originalist roots, at least in my opinion. I think that
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: that's not done as well. And sometimes he's taken Amy
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Coney Barrett with him, which is definitely not what I
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: want to see happen in that case.
• 32:23
  Speaker 10: What else?
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: Have they said that they're going to take that we
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: need to be aware of?
• 32:27
  Speaker 13: Yes, two other ones I think are worth mentioning quickly.
• 32:30
  Speaker 13: There's a religious liberty case and then a big Second
• 32:32
  Speaker 13: Amendment case. I'll start with the Second Amendment case. Cook County, Illinois, Chicago,
• 32:37
  Speaker 13: along with many other blue jurisdictions, they have banned AR-15s.
• 32:42
  Speaker 13: And so essentially a group of challenges are bringing this
• 32:45
  Speaker 13: case to the court, arguing that those bans, those blanket
• 32:48
  Speaker 13: bans of AR-15s violate the Second Amendment. And so the
• 32:52
  Speaker 13: court has been looking for a case like this to
• 32:55
  Speaker 13: take for some time to address this issue. Justice Brett
• 32:58
  Speaker 13: Kavanaugh actually wrote several years ago when the court turned
• 33:01
  Speaker 13: down another case that he hoped the court would take
• 33:04
  Speaker 13: one of these cases, address this issue, because these bans
• 33:07
  Speaker 13: are unfortunately becoming so prevalent across the country. And so
• 33:12
  Speaker 13: you may recall over the past several terms that the
• 33:14
  Speaker 13: court has spent a lot of time on the Second
• 33:16
  Speaker 13: Amendment reform.
• 33:17
  Speaker 10: What exactly the.
• 33:18
  Speaker 13: Text of the Second Amendment means in light of the
• 33:20
  Speaker 13: history and tradition of firearm ownership in our country. And
• 33:24
  Speaker 13: so there are some very compelling arguments, I think, that
• 33:27
  Speaker 13: these bans do, in fact, violate the Second Amendment.
• 33:31
  Speaker 10: But when these.
• 33:31
  Speaker 13: Arguments take place, Kevin, I would watch closely because a
• 33:35
  Speaker 13: lot of the debate, a lot of the briefing in
• 33:37
  Speaker 13: this case has focused on the history and tradition of
• 33:40
  Speaker 13: firearm regulation in our country.
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: Interesting. And the Liberty, religious liberties case, what's that about?
• 33:46
  Speaker 13: Yeah, so this is a case out of Colorado. I
• 33:49
  Speaker 13: don't know what's going on in Colorado, Kevin.
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: Something's in the water.
• 33:52
  Speaker 13: Yeah, it must be because every term it seems like
• 33:55
  Speaker 13: we get a case where Colorado officials are being accused
• 33:58
  Speaker 13: of discriminating against religious individuals or religious entities. You may
• 34:03
  Speaker 13: remember there's the case of Jack Phillips, the Colorado cake baker,
• 34:06
  Speaker 13: who wouldn't bake a cake for a same-sex wedding. Colorado
• 34:09
  Speaker 13: officials said you have to do it. He had to
• 34:11
  Speaker 13: go to the Supreme Court to vindicate his rights. Just
• 34:14
  Speaker 13: last term, there was a case called Childs v. Salazar
• 34:16
  Speaker 13: where you had therapists providing talk therapy to patients in Colorado.
• 34:21
  Speaker 13: And if those therapists wouldn't affirm their patient's chosen gender
• 34:25
  Speaker 13: if it differed from their biological sex, then Colorado was
• 34:29
  Speaker 13: threatening to strip the licenses of those therapists. And so
• 34:32
  Speaker 13: they had to go to the Supreme Court to vindicate
• 34:34
  Speaker 13: their rights. Now, this term, what's happening is Colorado has
• 34:38
  Speaker 13: passed a universal pre-K program, which essentially said that any school,
• 34:42
  Speaker 13: any provider can step in provide pre-K services, and the
• 34:46
  Speaker 13: state will reimburse those providers. But in order to do so,
• 34:50
  Speaker 13: Colorado has said that those providers must essentially endorse a
• 34:54
  Speaker 13: fairly radical LGBTQIA plus transgender agenda. And the problem when
• 35:02
  Speaker 13: it comes for Catholic schools in particular is that in
• 35:05
  Speaker 13: order for families to attend, send their children to Catholic
• 35:08
  Speaker 13: schools in order for students to attend Catholic schools, they
• 35:11
  Speaker 13: have to affirm certain tenets of the Catholic faith, or
• 35:14
  Speaker 13: at least broadly agree with them, in terms of gender
• 35:17
  Speaker 13: and sexuality and family formation. Marriages between one man and
• 35:20
  Speaker 13: one woman is traditional Catholic teaching, and the Catholic Church,
• 35:24
  Speaker 13: those Catholic schools, generally ask that students and family affirm
• 35:28
  Speaker 13: those types of views.
• 35:30
  Speaker 10: As well.
• 35:31
  Speaker 3: A lot of stuff on the docket. We're going to
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: have to be watching it. And I know that you
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: will be. So thanks for giving us the preview, Zach,
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: and we'll look forward to checking in with you throughout
• 35:40
  Speaker 3: the year.
• 35:41
  Speaker 8: Great.
• 35:41
  Speaker 13: Thanks for having me on, Kevin.
• 35:42
  Speaker 10: You got it.
• 35:42
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• 36:44
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• 36:49
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• 37:17
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• 37:20
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• 37:24
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• 37:29
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• 37:32
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• 37:38
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• 37:43
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• 37:45
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• 37:49
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• 37:56
  Speaker 3: that would drop gas prices through the floor And it
• 38:01
  Speaker 3: would create a downward pressure on electric companies to have
• 38:06
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• 38:08
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• 38:12
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• 38:18
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• 38:21
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• 38:24
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• 38:29
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• 38:33
  Speaker 3: first and second terms. And I think every time he
• 38:37
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• 38:41
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• 38:47
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• 38:50
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• 38:56
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• 38:59
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• 39:02
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• 39:05
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• 39:08
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• 39:10
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• 39:15
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• 39:19
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• 39:21
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• 39:23
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• 39:27
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• 39:32
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• 39:34
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• 39:39
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• 39:43
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• 39:47
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• 39:50
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• 39:56
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• 40:03
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• 40:09
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• 40:12
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  Speaker 3: how you take action in the world around you. And
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: action will be taken. Long are the days gone when
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: someone can say, well, I'm just going to sit in
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: the corner and pray for a good outcome. I actually
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: don't think that was ever a very good idea. Not
• 42:42
  Speaker 3: a biblical one, not a smart one, not one that's
• 42:45
  Speaker 3: good stewardship of the culture or place where you live,
• 42:49
  Speaker 3: but it is one of those things where we just
• 42:51
  Speaker 3: can't afford it. And all I have to really know
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: to understand that is to see the images that came
• 42:56
  Speaker 3: out of France today. You had a quarter of a
• 42:59
  Speaker 3: million people marching, some being violent, some.
• 43:07
  Speaker 3: Reacting because of violence, that are demanding things that the
• 43:15
  Speaker 3: country cannot physically give to them. And this is what happens, friend,
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: when you get into a situation where your rhetoric as
• 43:28
  Speaker 3: a politician begins to promise and be unable to deliver
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: things that you do promise and on a much grander scale.
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: So they've got a quarter of a million people across
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: like what, one, two, three, four, five, six regions of
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Paris and in another seven cities across the country that
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: are just, they were just rioting. 6,100 people arrested, 215 teenagers,
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: 85 school employees, 700 police officers have been injured. Yesterday,
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: a 15-year-old boy lost his hand and part of his
• 44:10
  Speaker 3: arm because he picked up a police grenade during clashes
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: in northern France. And they say that it started in
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: mid-September because of student revolt over the condition of the
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: French schools, teacher shortages, teachers not being replaced when absent,
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: deteriorating buildings, extremely long school days, short lunch periods, education
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: funding that students and teachers say hasn't kept pace with
• 44:35
  Speaker 3: the needs for a number of years. Students began to
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: blockade schools and the movement has spread remarkably quickly, but
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: this really isn't about schools anymore. It really isn't. The
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: country has increasingly been facing a serious fiscal problem. The
• 44:53
  Speaker 3: French government debt is around $ 3. 5 trillion. That's approaching about 120%
• 44:57
  Speaker 3: of GDP. The Weak growth and political paralysis of the
• 45:05
  Speaker 3: current government is also contributing to it. France's 10-year borrowing
• 45:10
  Speaker 3: cost recently went above 5% at its highest level in
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: 24 years, and the government consequently has little financial room
• 45:16
  Speaker 3: to simply throw billions at schools. They're facing a clash
• 45:24
  Speaker 3: of conscience and of crisis. Marine Le Pen of the
• 45:29
  Speaker 3: conservatives are attacking the government's fiscal and political record Jean-Luc
• 45:33
  Speaker 3: Mélenchon and France Unbowed, who are the progressives, are backing
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: the protests from the left. Government figures accuse the far
• 45:43
  Speaker 3: left of encouraging the unrest. So you have scenes coming
• 45:51
  Speaker 3: out of France today that are just frightening. But why
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: does it suddenly look like it's blowing up? Why is
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: France all of a sudden a big part of the problem? Well,
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: you've really got three crises working and feeding one another
• 46:07
  Speaker 3: at the same time. You've got social revolt, political paralysis,
• 46:10
  Speaker 3: fiscal debt, anxiety. And today it appeared that the moment
• 46:16
  Speaker 3: of the student revolt became a genuine national political crisis. And, and,
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: and that's, and I, this is my concern for it.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: I don't look, we, we, and we that live in America,
• 46:27
  Speaker 3: we have very little to gain or lose in, worrying
• 46:31
  Speaker 3: about France's internal politics. I understand that. Here's where I
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: draw a little bit of a concern and a very
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: big observation. Abdul Al-Sayed in Michigan is running as a
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: socialist who wants the government to give you everything. Mayor Mamdani,
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: who campaigned on giving New Yorkers everything, is in New
• 46:56
  Speaker 3: York figuring out that he can't. You've got different congressional
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: members across the country that have won primaries that they're
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: going to be tested to demonstrate whether or not they
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: can give the things away that they promised they could
• 47:13
  Speaker 3: give away in the actual election. And here's the real
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: concerning part. When you make these promises, when you overstate
• 47:24
  Speaker 3: what you can deliver and you do so knowingly, you
• 47:26
  Speaker 3: set up the population's to be disruptive. And it was
• 47:32
  Speaker 3: interesting as I was listening to Fox earlier today, everybody's like,
• 47:35
  Speaker 3: I can't believe that, you know, what did they expect
• 47:38
  Speaker 3: to happen? Actually, this is the unspoken secret. With the Marxists,
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: this is exactly what they wanted to have happen. They
• 47:47
  Speaker 3: wanted to create the kind of disturbance, the kind of
• 47:50
  Speaker 3: chaos that is going down. They wanted to create that
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: because they communism and socialism and Marxism thrives in chaotic times.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: They come in and they say, we're going to solve
• 48:03
  Speaker 3: the problem. So the key is to make the general
• 48:06
  Speaker 3: public as disrupted and incoherent and chaotic and as crisis-filled
• 48:12
  Speaker 3: as is possible. That's the whole game. So the far
• 48:17
  Speaker 3: left in France knows exactly what it's doing. And the
• 48:20
  Speaker 3: fact that And Le Pen and others have said, you know,
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: we're going to cut way back on immigration. They should
• 48:26
  Speaker 3: have been cutting back on immigration four years ago. The
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: number of people you're trying to give free stuff to
• 48:32
  Speaker 3: now way outnumbers anything remotely possible for you to be
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: able to do to care for the French. This is
• 48:39
  Speaker 3: what these people want to bring to America. And you
• 48:41
  Speaker 3: know who doesn't want it? Almost all of South America,
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: almost all of our allies. Since we got rid of
• 48:47
  Speaker 3: USAID and all of South America, every nation.
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: Down there has elected a pro-American, pro-free market government, including Brazil,
• 49:01
  Speaker 3: who it looks like Bolsonaro is going to walk into
• 49:05
  Speaker 3: office winning bigger than people thought he would. This is
• 49:13
  Speaker 3: utterly expectable when you run as a socialist saying, we're
• 49:20
  Speaker 3: going to give you all the free stuff. Giving them
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: all the free stuff has not tempered down expectations. And
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: now that they don't have the resources to give the
• 49:35
  Speaker 3: free stuff anymore, it's not tampering down the riots anymore.
• 49:40
  Speaker 3: There are going to be cuts. The question is, will
• 49:44
  Speaker 3: the violence overpower the law abiding and eventually end up
• 49:50
  Speaker 3: preventing what really needs to happen, which is you got
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: to deport a lot of people that don't belong there
• 49:57
  Speaker 3: and you have to call your public benefits back under control,
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: back under fiscal control. These crazy politicians that went around
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: saying you deserve this and you deserve that You know
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: what the Bible says? A man that doesn't work should
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: not eat. And the workman is worth his hire. None
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: of us come into this world with a guaranteed set
• 50:21
  Speaker 3: of rights. We need to produce while we are in
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: this life. And anyone promising you anything other than that
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: is not telling you the truth. Kevin McCullough, KT McFarlane
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: joins me now.
• 50:55
  Speaker 7: Here he is from New York, that Kevin, Kevin McCullough.
• 51:01
  Speaker 3: Welcome back.
• 51:03
  Speaker 10: It's Tuesday.
• 51:04
  Speaker 3: And per usual, we're checking in with Katie McFarland, who
• 51:07
  Speaker 3: has done her time in the Pentagon under multiple administrations,
• 51:12
  Speaker 3: helping a lot of presidents understand what's going on in
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: the world better. And last week, we were celebrating the
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: big news, Katie, of Greenland and how it's going to
• 51:21
  Speaker 3: change the Northern Hemisphere and the security of North America.
• 51:26
  Speaker 3: But there's stuff going on in South America that's pretty
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: revolutionary too. And I don't know if a lot of
• 51:31
  Speaker 3: people realize this, but every country that's held an election
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: in South America since President Trump has returned to the
• 51:38
  Speaker 3: White House has elected a pro-American president. And they've done
• 51:44
  Speaker 3: so mostly after we got rid of USAID money flowing
• 51:48
  Speaker 3: to them. Do you see, Katie McFarland, any connection between
• 51:53
  Speaker 3: those two things?
• 51:53
  Speaker 15: Yeah, and I think that this, you know, to take
• 51:56
  Speaker 15: the big picture, the reorientation of the global chessboard, especially
• 52:01
  Speaker 15: from America's perspective, is going to be Trump's lasting legacy.
• 52:05
  Speaker 15: So if you think about American foreign policy for the
• 52:07
  Speaker 15: last 200 years, we've been more Eurocentric, right? Our relationship
• 52:11
  Speaker 15: with Europe has mattered a lot. And then in the
• 52:14
  Speaker 15: last 30, 40 years, our relationship with Asia has mattered more.
• 52:18
  Speaker 15: And now Trump is– and we've kind of forgotten about
• 52:21
  Speaker 15: South America, Latin America, the Western Hemisphere. We sort of
• 52:24
  Speaker 15: took it for granted earlier. It was something happening south
• 52:26
  Speaker 15: of the border, not our problem. Both parties ignored it.
• 52:30
  Speaker 15: But Trump understands the fundamental reality of you could have
• 52:34
  Speaker 15: a unified Western Hemisphere, American-led, pro-America, free market, pro-capitalism, pro-growth,
• 52:44
  Speaker 15: and you could really reorient the world. We wouldn't have
• 52:46
  Speaker 15: to worry about going across oceans to get our raw
• 52:51
  Speaker 15: materials or to sell our goods. We wouldn't have to
• 52:53
  Speaker 15: worry about as much of defending ourselves all around the world.
• 52:57
  Speaker 15: If we had a Western Hemisphere bloc, It was under
• 53:01
  Speaker 15: our influence and direction. A number of things would happen. First,
• 53:06
  Speaker 15: there would be an economic transformation. You know all the
• 53:08
  Speaker 15: cheap stuff we all buy on Amazon that is made
• 53:11
  Speaker 15: in Asia? It could be made in South America. It
• 53:13
  Speaker 15: would be cheaper, lower rates of labor, and certainly lower
• 53:17
  Speaker 15: transportation costs. All the energy that we have been exporting
• 53:23
  Speaker 15: to the world and prior to that importing from the
• 53:25
  Speaker 15: Middle East, we, the Western Hemisphere, could become the world's
• 53:30
  Speaker 15: dominant energy source. We'll replace the Middle East. It will
• 53:33
  Speaker 15: be not only American, hopefully someday Canadian, but we would
• 53:39
  Speaker 15: have Venezuela. We would have Brazil soon after their new elections.
• 53:43
  Speaker 15: And we could become the energy superpower of the world.
• 53:47
  Speaker 15: And we could not only produce the energy, we could
• 53:51
  Speaker 15: refine the energy, we could use the energy ourselves in
• 53:53
  Speaker 15: the Western Hemisphere, but we could also export it to Asia,
• 53:57
  Speaker 15: which has no energy of its own. So that's another
• 54:00
  Speaker 15: way that it transforms. But the final thing is that,
• 54:04
  Speaker 15: you know, one of our biggest problems in the last
• 54:06
  Speaker 15: several years, certainly every time a Democrat comes into power
• 54:09
  Speaker 15: is is they open up the borders and we have
• 54:12
  Speaker 15: this mass influx of who knows who. And that wouldn't
• 54:16
  Speaker 15: happen if you started to have a Western hemisphere that
• 54:19
  Speaker 15: was at peace and prosperity with itself.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: People wouldn't leave their countries.
• 54:23
  Speaker 15: They would stay because there were all the jobs that
• 54:26
  Speaker 15: we used to create in Asia. Anyway, I think it
• 54:28
  Speaker 15: is Trump's lasting legacy. And if you look at, you know,
• 54:31
  Speaker 15: if you look at That red-blue map of people who
• 54:34
  Speaker 15: do the maps of, you know, what are they, pro-communists?
• 54:37
  Speaker 4: Are they pro-capitalists?
• 54:38
  Speaker 15: Anti-American, pro-American countries in South and Central America. They are
• 54:43
  Speaker 15: increasingly American. And it started in Trump's first term with
• 54:47
  Speaker 15: the Argentinian President Malay, who took a sledgehammer, a chainsaw
• 54:53
  Speaker 15: to the massive government bureaucracy and waste and transformed his
• 54:57
  Speaker 15: country and his economy. Then the next step was Venezuela, right?
• 55:01
  Speaker 15: With Maduro out, we now have a pro-American government where
• 55:05
  Speaker 15: we're helping develop their oil. And then just two days ago,
• 55:09
  Speaker 15: there was a major election in Brazil where the incumbent, communist, socialist, incompetent,
• 55:15
  Speaker 15: you know, the same routine of all the Latin American
• 55:18
  Speaker 15: countries over the decades. He was not tossed out yet,
• 55:22
  Speaker 15: but he will be. But there was an election and
• 55:25
  Speaker 15: the pro-Trump guy, Bolsonaro, won. And he won significantly. So
• 55:30
  Speaker 15: then Brazil is the biggest country in South America. So
• 55:33
  Speaker 15: if Brazil then joins the red team or the Trump
• 55:37
  Speaker 15: team or the America team, you all of a sudden
• 55:39
  Speaker 15: can conceive of this Western Hemisphere. And then the final
• 55:42
  Speaker 15: piece of it will be Cuba. And I think Cuba
• 55:45
  Speaker 15: is ready to go. It's not going to take much
• 55:48
  Speaker 15: to have the Cuban... Senior leadership be ousted one way
• 55:52
  Speaker 15: or another. And then the United States have a strong
• 55:55
  Speaker 15: relationship with Cuba. And then the thing that you point
• 55:57
  Speaker 15: out is the interesting anomaly. Why were all these countries
• 56:01
  Speaker 15: so anti-American over the years? Part of it was the
• 56:04
  Speaker 15: Chinese had moved in. But a big part of it
• 56:07
  Speaker 15: is that we were our own worst enemy. We, the
• 56:09
  Speaker 15: United States, spent billions of dollars in South America on, quote,
• 56:15
  Speaker 15: USAID programs. that were historically very good for promoting American democracy,
• 56:20
  Speaker 15: promoting America's image in the world. But really going back
• 56:24
  Speaker 15: to Obama, they took a real leftward turn and they
• 56:27
  Speaker 15: became anti-American organizations. So we were paying for anti-American organizations
• 56:32
  Speaker 15: in these countries. And once Trump got rid of those
• 56:35
  Speaker 15: anti-American organizations with USAID, as you said, the elections started changing.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: And by that, what I'm implying implicitly is that the
• 56:45
  Speaker 3: people of South America look to America as something that
• 56:49
  Speaker 3: they want to be more like. And they expressed that
• 56:52
  Speaker 3: in their unmolested votes for their own elections.
• 56:56
  Speaker 15: Absolutely.
• 56:56
  Speaker 4: 100% right.
• 56:58
  Speaker 15: And so not only could we envision a Western hemisphere
• 57:02
  Speaker 15: that is, you know, people actually expressing their own wishes,
• 57:05
  Speaker 15: not being swayed by the crypto communists in the United States,
• 57:10
  Speaker 15: in the Obama and the Biden administrations. But we've also
• 57:14
  Speaker 15: successfully in each of those cases, whether it's Venezuela, Argentina, Brazil,
• 57:20
  Speaker 15: certain countries in Central America, we are pushing out the
• 57:23
  Speaker 15: Chinese and the Russians. So it would be under our influence,
• 57:28
  Speaker 15: not imposed upon by creeping Chinese communists trying to get
• 57:34
  Speaker 15: a foothold in South America.
• 57:35
  Speaker 10: Right.
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, I have respect for our Department of State
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: Secretary right now. Normally, I don't.
• 57:41
  Speaker 15: You know, people have said that, oh, Trump's going to
• 57:44
  Speaker 15: lose the midterms. It's going to be the end of
• 57:45
  Speaker 15: the world. The Democrats are going to win in 2028,
• 57:48
  Speaker 15: regardless of how talented Republicans are to run for president.
• 57:52
  Speaker 15: I think the opposite is going to happen. I think
• 57:53
  Speaker 15: that by 2028, The economy will have turned significantly so
• 57:58
  Speaker 15: that we'll be on a huge rocket ship of economic growth.
• 58:03
  Speaker 15: The Iran war will be over one way or another.
• 58:05
  Speaker 15: Gasoline prices will be back down. And so it will
• 58:08
  Speaker 15: be a very favorable environment for a Republican to run.
• 58:12
  Speaker 15: We've got a great bench, as you listed a number
• 58:14
  Speaker 15: of names. I could add four or five more names
• 58:16
  Speaker 15: to it. The thing about Donald Trump, and I'd love
• 58:19
  Speaker 15: for you to next time you have Eric or don
• 58:21
  Speaker 15: jr on ask them because the thing about trump is
• 58:24
  Speaker 15: he does think you need to prepare for the top
• 58:26
  Speaker 15: job yeah but he also thinks you need to be
• 58:28
  Speaker 15: tough enough for the top job so i don't think
• 58:31
  Speaker 15: he anoints anybody i think he's going to let everybody
• 58:34
  Speaker 15: fight it out because as trump said going through that
• 58:37
  Speaker 15: first um series of primaries that he did when 2015
• 58:41
  Speaker 15: he didn't.
• 58:42
  Speaker 3: Know what to expect right.
• 58:44
  Speaker 15: He toughened up real fast and got rid of 17,
• 58:47
  Speaker 15: 18 opponents who fell by the wayside. So I think
• 58:51
  Speaker 15: Trump is going to watch everybody. I don't think he
• 58:53
  Speaker 15: anoints anybody. I think he lets them try out for
• 58:55
  Speaker 15: the job and test each other and test their mettle
• 58:58
  Speaker 15: and see who's tough enough for the job. I would
• 59:00
  Speaker 15: also add one thing, though. Marco Rubio, I've known for
• 59:03
  Speaker 15: a really long time. I just want to tell you
• 59:05
  Speaker 15: a story. About 15 or so years ago, when Obama
• 59:09
  Speaker 15: was president and he recognized Cuba and, remember, Obama went
• 59:12
  Speaker 15: to Cuba and hung out with the Castros, Marco Rubio
• 59:15
  Speaker 15: called my office at Fox and said, I want to
• 59:18
  Speaker 15: do an interview. I want to make a statement against
• 59:21
  Speaker 15: what Obama is doing. Would you interview me? And I said, yeah,
• 59:24
  Speaker 15: I sure would. Let's do it in a public forum.
• 59:27
  Speaker 15: So instead of just on TV. So we met at
• 59:30
  Speaker 15: the Women's National Republican Club. Then Senator Marco Rubio on
• 59:34
  Speaker 15: this Senate Foreign Relations Committee.
• 59:38
  Speaker 2: And the two of us met in the lobby.
• 59:40
  Speaker 15: And then we walked up the back staircase to the
• 59:42
  Speaker 15: third floor, which is where all the cameras were and
• 59:45
  Speaker 15: all the audience was. And it was the two of
• 59:48
  Speaker 15: us and a couple of, you know, some security, some aides.
• 59:51
  Speaker 15: I walked along back door, you know, staircases for a
• 59:54
  Speaker 15: long time. Usually you're there by yourself and it's a
• 59:57
  Speaker 15: concrete staircase with an iron railing. In this case, there
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 15: were maybe 100 Hispanic American staff lined up.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 4: They were cleaning ladies.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 15: They were the guys who take out the garbage. They
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 15: were the waitstaff at the restaurant. They were the little people,
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 15: and they were in uniforms, and they all stood against
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 15: the wall and against the railing. They didn't dare reach
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 15: out to touch Senator Rubio. But you could see in
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 15: their eyes the pride they had. Because remember, Marco Rubio's
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 15: mother was a cleaning lady. And they had tears in
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 15: their eyes. They didn't say a thing. And he very
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 15: graciously talked to them, walked his way through up the
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 15: three staircases. But you could see in their eyes thinking, oh,
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 15: one of us has made it. Isn't this extraordinary? And
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 15: to me, that was a really profound moment. We have
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 15: a large Hispanic American community in this country and Marco
• 1:00:52
  Speaker 15: Rubio speaks to them and he speaks to all immigrants.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 15: And I find him just a really compelling individual as
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 15: a person of great integrity and a person of great purpose.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 15: And obviously now a person of great experience and enormous success.
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 4: As you said, he can do any job.
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 3: Well, and that's the thing. And it's like he's had
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 3: some of these hard-nosed negotiations, you know, that he's anchored
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 3: with the VP, obviously, in some of those situations. But
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: it will be interesting. I'm not going to count him out.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: That's for sure. I think he's going to be one
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 3: of the lead guys. KT, always a pleasure. Thank you
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 3: for giving us your insights today.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 15: Pleasure and an honor. Thank you, Kevin.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 10: You got it.
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: Kevin McCullough coming right back.
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Stick around for more of That Kevin.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 8: Next.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 7: Here he is from new york that kevin kevin mccullough.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to times square kevin mccullough glad to have
• 1:02:06
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• 1:02:08
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• 1:02:13
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• 1:02:15
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• 1:02:18
  Speaker 3: to welcome back friends longtime friends to the show as
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: well dr robert jeffress actually met me when we were
• 1:02:24
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• 1:02:28
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• 1:02:31
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• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: in the back of the 12th floor? It was like
• 1:02:37
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• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: for the strategy room. Anyway, going back a ways, welcome back.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 3: Of course, senior pastor of First Baptist Dallas, radio ministry,
• 1:02:48
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• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: so many people. I can't even begin to name them
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: all right now, but he's got a new one. This
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  Speaker 3: is it, Divine Invasions, Experience God's Miracle in Your Life Today.
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  Speaker 3: And Dr. Jeffress, it's great to see you.
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  Speaker 4: Great to see you again, Kevin. Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 3: You've preached on a lot of different topics. You've exposited
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  Speaker 3: Scripture verse by verse through most, if not all, of
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  Speaker 3: the text of Scripture. Why a book about miracles for
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  Speaker 3: Robert Jeffress?
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  Speaker 12: Well, part of it is my own faith journey. You know,
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  Speaker 12: where Kevin and I grew up in a theological tradition,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 12: went to a well-known seminary that taught the cessationist point
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  Speaker 12: of view, which simply meant that miracles have ceased. They
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  Speaker 12: were reserved for biblical times or pre-biblical times, but there's
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  Speaker 12: no need for miracles any longer. We've got the Scripture
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  Speaker 12: and And that's how we validate whether somebody is from
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  Speaker 12: God or not. But I've just come to see both
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  Speaker 12: from the scripture and in my own experience, that's just
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  Speaker 12: not so. I believe God does perform miracles today. I
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  Speaker 12: think maybe one of the differences is, as my predecessor, Dr. Criswell,
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  Speaker 12: used to say, I believe in faith healing. I don't
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  Speaker 12: believe in faith healers. And there is a difference in
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  Speaker 12: the two. But I do believe God is at work.
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  Speaker 4: And I think you can go to extremes.
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  Speaker 12: I mean, there are some people who deny that there
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  Speaker 12: are such things as miracles today. The other extreme is
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  Speaker 12: to everything is a miracle. That empty parking space in
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  Speaker 12: front of Dunkin' Donuts, a miracle. Praise God, you know.
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  Speaker 12: And so I think there's a balance in there. And
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  Speaker 12: in this book, Divine Invasions, we're basically saying God is
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  Speaker 12: the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow. He has a plan.
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  Speaker 12: And as James said, we have not because we ask not.
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  Speaker 12: And I think, and we can get into this later,
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  Speaker 12: probably the most important chapter in my book, Divine Invasions,
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  Speaker 12: is the chapter, what to do when your miracle doesn't come.
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  Speaker 3: You mentioned this earlier, and I want to spend some
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  Speaker 3: time on it. There are the miracles that don't come.
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  Speaker 3: There are the answers that aren't given. There are answers
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  Speaker 3: that go in directions that we don't want. They don't
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  Speaker 3: line up with who we are, what we want. What
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  Speaker 3: does God want? communicating to us when a miracle that
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  Speaker 3: we may be hoping, praying, asking God for doesn't occur?
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  Speaker 12: Let me just mention two of the things we ought
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  Speaker 12: to remember when our miracle doesn't come. I think, first
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  Speaker 12: of all, we need to maintain a ministry perspective. There's
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  Speaker 12: a reason God allows us to go through difficulties. You know,
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  Speaker 12: Isaiah 43 says, when you go through the water, when
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  Speaker 12: you go through the fire, when you go through the flood.
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  Speaker 4: I will be with you.
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  Speaker 12: God's plan isn't to take us out of every suffering,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 12: but he goes through it with us. And I think
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  Speaker 12: it's important as we go through it to remember to
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  Speaker 12: have a ministry mindset. Second Corinthians 1 says, God comforts
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  Speaker 12: us in our affliction so that we may comfort, literally
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  Speaker 12: strengthen others who have suffered the same affliction. And I
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  Speaker 12: think about our friend Johnny Erickson Tata, nearly seven decades
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  Speaker 12: in a wheelchair. And somebody asked her, said, aren't you
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  Speaker 12: mad at God for not answering your.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 4: Prayer to be healed?
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  Speaker 12: And she said, you know, for God to bring healing
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  Speaker 12: to me and to bring healing to everybody, the only
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  Speaker 12: time that could happen is when there is an end
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  Speaker 12: to sin, because sin brought about all the suffering in
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  Speaker 12: the world. So for God to remove all the suffering,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 12: he has to put an end to sin. For God
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  Speaker 12: to put an end to sin, Jesus has to come
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  Speaker 12: back again to establish his kingdom and And if Jesus
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 12: comes back again, then all opportunity for repentance from others
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 12: is over. And he said, I would rather sit in
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 12: my wheelchair a little longer if indeed it gave other
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  Speaker 12: people a chance to come to know.
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  Speaker 4: Christ as Savior.
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  Speaker 12: And that's what I call a kingdom mentality and a
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  Speaker 12: kingdom view of suffering.
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  Speaker 3: Truly a ministry perspective as you described it for sure. Well,
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  Speaker 3: we're going to take a break in a second, but
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  Speaker 3: I just want to put a footnote on the story
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  Speaker 3: I was telling earlier. So we had these negative people
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: that were saying what they were saying about us giving
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: Bibles to people. And I said something about that on
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: the air. And then as we were getting close to
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 3: the end of our campaign, trying to get the last Bibles,
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 3: we needed like 2,000 Bibles to get to the goal.
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 3: I started getting some taunting emails from people saying, ha, well,
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: we'll see what God's doing today. Hasn't even provided for
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 3: your Bibles. What kind of miracle is that? Went into
• 1:07:26
  Speaker 3: that final weekend, came out. But going into that weekend,
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 3: I asked the listeners to this show and I said,
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  Speaker 3: you know, there's people that just don't want those folks
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: to have Bibles. If it's God's will, I would ask
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 3: you to consider in your heart what he wants you
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: to do. And Dr. Jeffress, on Monday morning, instead of
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: having 8,000 Bibles raised towards our 10,000, 41,000 Bibles were headed.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 3: to people in every third world corner of the globe
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: that don't have access to them. And I thought, man,
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  Speaker 3: God's great. You just can't put him in a box.
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  Speaker 3: He's too big.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah.
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  Speaker 12: And I tell you, when you pray that God will
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 12: spread his word throughout the world, you know you're praying.
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  Speaker 4: In God's will.
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  Speaker 12: A lot of times we pray something we can't know
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 12: if it's God's will. We have to say if it's
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 12: in your will. But when you pray for the word
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  Speaker 12: of God to be spread, you can know you're right
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 12: smack in the middle of God's will.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Let's take a quick break.
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  Speaker 7: Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Robert Jeffress is my guest. He's coming right back. Divine invasions.
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  Speaker 3: Experience God's miracles today. in your life today. This is
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 3: what it looks like. It looks like it's a quick read.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: I just got my copy, so I haven't had a
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: chance to read it yet, but we'll do that. Coming
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  Speaker 3: right back from New York. Don't go away.
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  Speaker 7: Here he is, from New York, that Kevin. Kevin McCullough.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
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  Speaker 3: Glad to have you with us. It's That Kevin Show,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 3: online at thatkevinshow.com. And if you want to re-listen to
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 3: this discussion, you can do that. The podcast is there.
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 3: When this airs on Salem News Channel, the video will
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: be there as well. And, of course, what we're talking
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: about will be all linked up. We're talking about Divine
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Invasions from Dr. Robert Jeffress. Experience God's Miracles in Your
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 3: Life Today is the name of the book.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Jeffress, I'm sure that you have to do something about
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  Speaker 3: this in the text of the book, and I'm dying
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 3: to hear how you answer it. But there are people
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  Speaker 3: that want to define all kinds of things as a miracle,
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  Speaker 3: and you referenced this in your opening statement. Now, I
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  Speaker 3: know that I'm guilty of what you said, almost verbatim,
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  Speaker 3: where I'll be going somewhere and you have no idea
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  Speaker 3: what a miracle it is. Maybe in the Dunkin' Donuts
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: in Dallas, Texas, it seems like a miracle to get
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 3: a parking spot. But in New York City, if you
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  Speaker 3: find a parking spot in New York, it is a
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  Speaker 3: miracle someday.
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  Speaker 1: Hallelujah.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm not beyond saying under my breath. As we're
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  Speaker 3: trying to figure out what to do, Lord, just give
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  Speaker 3: me direction and there'll be a spot that opens up
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  Speaker 3: or there'll be something that happens, a fortuitous, a serendipitous
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  Speaker 3: occurrence that doesn't seem to be strongly supernatural necessarily in
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 3: its presence. No one's leg got suddenly longer or cancer
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  Speaker 3: suddenly disappeared, but there's a parking spot. Is it right
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  Speaker 3: for us to be totally grateful to God for those
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  Speaker 3: tiny miracles?
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  Speaker 12: I think there's everything right with praying for those things.
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  Speaker 12: I think God cares about our smallest needs as well
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  Speaker 12: as our biggest need. And I think, you know, the
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  Speaker 12: imagery of a child talking to a father, I think
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  Speaker 12: that's the appropriate thing here that God tells us to
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  Speaker 12: ask anything. And he will answer according to his will.
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  Speaker 12: So there's nothing sinful about praying for those small things
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  Speaker 12: that make life easier.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and the reason I ask about the definition, because
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  Speaker 3: you have the other kind of end of the spectrum.
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  Speaker 3: I ordered a pizza from Domino's, and when it came,
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  Speaker 3: I saw the face of Jesus in the pepperoni. Or
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 3: there was a tear, crying tears down the side of
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: a concrete building, whatever. There are those types of elements
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  Speaker 3: as well. What's your take on those types of things
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  Speaker 3: that people call miracles?
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  Speaker 4: Well, I'm skeptical.
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  Speaker 12: I'm a natural skeptic of those things. But I tell you, Kevin,
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  Speaker 12: the older I get, the less limitations I put on
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  Speaker 12: what God can do.
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  Speaker 3: Say that again.
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  Speaker 12: Well, the older I get, I put the less limitations
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  Speaker 12: on what God can do.
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  Speaker 10: Why is that?
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  Speaker 12: For example, you hear in the Middle East about the
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 12: spirit of Jesus appearing to Muslims and given a divine
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  Speaker 12: revelation of himself. And I used to say, oh, no, no,
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  Speaker 12: that never happens because everything we need to know about
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 12: God is in the Bible. But Kevin, what about those
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  Speaker 12: who don't have a Bible? What about those who don't
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 12: have a translation available to them? I'm not going to
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  Speaker 12: put God in a box and say what he can
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  Speaker 12: and can't do. He can do anything as long as
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  Speaker 12: it's consistent with his will and his character. God can't
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  Speaker 12: do anything that's outside of his character.
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  Speaker 3: Well, and that's the point of even the signs that
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  Speaker 3: he worked when he walked among us, is it not?
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 3: It wasn't that he had the potential to do these
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: amazing things. People joke often that when he raised Lazarus,
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: it was very important that he put Lazarus's name before
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: the command because at the announcement of the Almighty for
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 3: the dead to come forth, he would have emptied every
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  Speaker 3: grave in Jerusalem that day.
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  Speaker 4: And think about what a lousy thing it was for Lazarus.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 4: He had to die again. He had to go through
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 4: it twice.
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  Speaker 12: So the miracle was not for Lazarus's benefit. He had
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  Speaker 12: a short-term benefit. It was to prove that Jesus was
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  Speaker 12: who he said he was.
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  Speaker 3: There's an ultimate miracle that took place on the cross.
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  Speaker 3: And we know it best through the eyes of one
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  Speaker 3: of them that were hanging next to him. the ability
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  Speaker 3: for Jesus to give grace and mercy and forgiveness to
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: even someone who couldn't go to Sunday school or give
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: an offering or go to a men's group or go
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 3: to a seeker service.
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  Speaker 10: Or get baptized.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, none of it. No good works, no actions at all.
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  Speaker 3: Talk to me about the miracle of salvation and why
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  Speaker 3: that's the primary miracle that really we as believers should
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  Speaker 3: be championing above all others.
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  Speaker 12: Well, I can't believe you haven't read my book because
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 12: you just got the last chapter. And instead of a
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 12: divine invasion, I call it the divine invitation. God's divine
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  Speaker 12: invitation to all of us is to come to faith
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  Speaker 12: in Christ. And Kevin, here's the miracle that those of
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  Speaker 12: us who are spiritually dead can suddenly become spiritually alive.
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  Speaker 12: Those of us who are on the road to hell
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 12: can suddenly be on the road to heaven. That's the
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 12: greatest miracle at all. By simply confessing our sins and
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 12: our need for a Savior, we can enter into God's
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  Speaker 12: forever family and be a child of God with all
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 12: the privileges that go along with that, including the privilege
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 12: of of asking anything in his name that we desire
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 12: and knowing that he will answer it according to his
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 12: perfect will.
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  Speaker 3: Sometimes this show airs in the middle of the night
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 3: or early in the morning. And I'm just wondering, Dr. Jeffress,
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 3: if you wouldn't take a second to talk to that
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 3: person that may be listening right now about why, if
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 3: you were on the path, you would take Jesus up
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  Speaker 3: on that miracle.
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  Speaker 12: You know, for whoever's listening right now, you don't need
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 12: a Baptist preacher to to tell you that you've made mistakes,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 12: that you've sinned.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 4: I've sinned. I've sinned terribly.
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  Speaker 12: The Bible says all of us have sinned and fallen
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 12: short of the glory of God. But God has provided
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  Speaker 12: a way that we can be forgiven of our sins.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 12: And that's believing that when Jesus died on the cross,
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 12: he didn't die for his sins. He didn't have any sins.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 12: But he took the punishment from God that you and
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 12: I deserve to take. And the greatest decision we can
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 12: ever make is to allow Christ to pay for our
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 12: sins instead of us trying to pay for our sins
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 12: throughout eternity. And if anybody out there listening to this
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  Speaker 12: right now would love to have that forgiveness, the assurance
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 12: that when you die, God is going to welcome you
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 12: into his presence, I want you to pray this simple
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 12: prayer with me wherever you are. Dear God, thank you
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 12: for loving me. I know I have failed you in
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 12: many ways, and I'm truly sorry for the sins in
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 12: my life. But I believe what I've heard, that you
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  Speaker 12: love me and don't hate me, that you love me
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  Speaker 12: so much you sent your son Jesus to die on
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 12: the cross for me, to take the punishment I deserve
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 12: to take. Right now, I'm trusting in what Jesus did
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 12: for me on the cross, not in my good works,
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 12: but in what Jesus did for me on the cross
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 12: to save me from my sins. Thank you for forgiving
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 12: me and help me to live the rest of my
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  Speaker 12: life for you.
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  Speaker 4: In Jesus' name.
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  Speaker 9: Amen.
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  Speaker 1: All right.
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  Speaker 10: Dr.
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  Speaker 3: Jeffress, appreciate this so much. You just can't explain it.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: Divine invasions, experience God's miracles in your life today. Brand
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 3: new from Dr.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 10: Jeffress.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: Go get it. Dr. J, we'll talk to you again soon.
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  Speaker 4: Can't wait, Kevin. Thanks for having me.
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 3: Kevin McCullough coming back to Times Square.
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 10: Stay here.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 14: Stick around for more of That Kevin next. Serving it
• 1:16:49
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• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: Welcome back.
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 3: It's That Kevin Show. Thatkevinshow.com for all things related. And
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 3: I want to go back to the drawing board from
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 3: the second hour today. Because as we have talked about
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 3: the riots and the other things that happened in France
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 3: earlier today, and that's been ongoing since the middle of September.
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 3: So they're really getting into some sticky waters there. I
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: want to continue to kind of examine us under the spotlight,
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 3: because I really do think that candidates that are asking
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 3: for your vote here in a few weeks, in a
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: bunch of states that get this show, are saying things
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 3: and doing things that are just flat out dishonest. And
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: Hassan Piker, who I mentioned yesterday, speaking at a gathering
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 3: of progressives over the weekend, said, you know, if Tallarico
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: gets elected from Texas, he goes, we'll have to remind
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: him who's in charge.
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  Speaker 2: We own him.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: Well, who owns Tallarico? And what do you own exactly, Piker?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 3: Are you paying people to go vote for your candidate?
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 3: Is that Is that the level of corruption you're admitting
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 3: to in public? Another one that has confused me is
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 3: Barack Obama a number of weeks ago said, you know, let.
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: Me be clear.
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 3: The Democrats, we need to be clear-eyed. And he was
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: basically saying that they need to be centrist and they
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 3: need to be not crazy. He had a late-night call
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 3: with El-Sayed the night that he won the Michigan primary
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 3: and he phoned him afterward to discuss unifying the party.
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: But now the former president is going to go on
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 3: the trail with the socialist, the Marxist, and actually campaign
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 3: with him. And this is one of those examples where
• 1:19:06
  Speaker 3: I'm saying.
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 3: This is how, by the way, if you're a Democrat
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 3: and you don't like socialism and you're wondering how your
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: party got sold up the river to socialists, it's exactly
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 3: like this. It's the, it's the Barack Obama's in the
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 3: party that said, well, we're not, we're not for that
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: part of our party. And then as soon as they
• 1:19:23
  Speaker 3: start to win, oh, well, we're fine with them. So
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 3: he announced or El-Sayed announced yesterday that Barack Obama is
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 3: joining them on the trail in Detroit this coming Saturday
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 3: or on Saturday, the 24th, uh, Former President Barack Obama
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 3: joining El-Sayed and the Democratic gubernatorial nominee Jocelyn Benson on
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 3: the trail. Obama will be stumping with the two Democrats
• 1:19:50
  Speaker 3: all day that day. He did not endorse Mr. Sayed
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 3: in the primary, but then phoned him to talk about
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 3: unifying the party. He didn't endorse him because he hadn't
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 3: won yet. If Barack Obama thought El-Sayed was going to
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 3: win the primary, he would have endorsed him. He thought
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: that the establishment Democrats had enough power left in Michigan
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 3: that they could keep this threat at bay. Once he's
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 3: realized that they don't, he's like, well, I guess we
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: just have to let the socialists in the door. That's
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 3: basically what he's admitting to. But El-Sayed in Michigan could
• 1:20:27
  Speaker 3: not bring himself to condemn the Muslim Brotherhood. Martha McCallum
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 3: of Fox News asked him, you support the designations of
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: the Muslim Brotherhood in those countries. I want to understand Egypt.
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: Al-Sayed said, show me where they're engaged. Any organization engaged
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 3: in political violence, I will back a terrorist designation. McCallum,
• 1:20:47
  Speaker 3: so on October 7th, the Egyptian chapter of the Muslim
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 3: Brotherhood called for violent attacks against the United States, its partners,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: and its interests. The Jordanian Muslim Brotherhood supported Hamas, and
• 1:20:57
  Speaker 3: they threatened Americans living in the region. So do you
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: stand by those organizations? Al-Sayed, As I said, any organization
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 3: engaged in political violence or calling for political violence is
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: engaged in terrorism. I would support those designations. That being said,
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: I think that there is an argument that you try
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 3: to make often, which is that the best way to
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 3: take this problem on is just more war. Syed is cuckoo.
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: In Michigan, you need to wake up. Kevin McCullough, we'll
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: see you next time.
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  Speaker 6: Thank you.