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SYSK's 12 Days of Christmas… Toys: Hula-Hoops: The Toy That's A Shape · Stuff You Should Know

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  Speaker 1: Okay, it's Joshy again. And up next on our playlist
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  Speaker 1: is our episode on hula hoops. This is a stuff
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  Speaker 1: you should know classic and hula hoops. For those of
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  Speaker 1: you who don't know, were this hoop that you kept
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  Speaker 1: going around your waist by making a hula motion. It's
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  Speaker 1: one of the more appropriately named toys of all time,
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  Speaker 1: and it was a huge craze back in the twentieth century.
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  Speaker 1: So get your time machine, leather helmet and goggles on
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  Speaker 1: and let's go back to the hula hoop.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to Stuff you Should Know from HowStuffWorks dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark, and
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  Speaker 1: there's Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and there's Jerry over there,
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  Speaker 1: and this is Stuff you should know the podcast.
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  Speaker 3: How's going It's.
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  Speaker 1: Fine, great, how's it going with you?
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  Speaker 3: Good? Jerry's distracting me a little bit because all I
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  Speaker 3: see in my peripheral vision is her practicing her new
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  Speaker 3: hula fire dance routine.
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  Speaker 1: It's pretty dangerous.
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  Speaker 3: It's dangerous, but it's it's interesting to see out of
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  Speaker 3: the corner of one's eye.
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  Speaker 1: It really is yes, performance.
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  Speaker 3: Art, performance hula art.
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  Speaker 1: Can you hula hoop. I cannot, sir, I'm too self
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  Speaker 1: conscious too.
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  Speaker 3: To even try it. Yeah, it's it's a grown man,
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  Speaker 3: forty four year old man hula hooping.
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  Speaker 1: Plus when I do it, like as I rotate my hips,
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  Speaker 1: it makes the same rotate my hips. Yeah, it makes
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  Speaker 1: the sound of like almost congealed jello, just slopping around
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  Speaker 1: in a bowl, you know what I mean. I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to make that sound.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but I did see at a the East Atlanta's
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  Speaker 3: Strut Festivals, one of Atlanta's many great neighborhood festivals. I
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  Speaker 3: believe the Strut to Me is known for having the
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  Speaker 3: better music of most of the festivals. And our buddy
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  Speaker 3: Craig Johnson's band played Space Knife, not space Knife, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: this one was. I can't remember the name of this band,
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  Speaker 3: but that band is no longer. He's got a new band.
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  Speaker 1: Even that guy is always coming up with new stuff.
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  Speaker 1: You can never pin him down. It's too good.
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  Speaker 3: You should check out Space Knife though people on the web. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: you can find it. It's good.
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  Speaker 1: It was in our TV show too.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's his alter ego. But anyway, Craig's band was
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  Speaker 3: playing and this I was pretty hula naive hoop naive
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  Speaker 3: at this point. And a few years ago, and there
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  Speaker 3: was this lady doing a hula routine to his band
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  Speaker 3: playing and I videoed it. It was so awesome.
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  Speaker 1: So she was hoop dancing.
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  Speaker 3: Hoop dancing, Yeah, like the neck, the arms, the legs,
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  Speaker 3: moving around with it, like supremely talented hooper. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: If you go onto the web and type in hoop dancing,
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  Speaker 1: it's going to bring up some pretty impressive videos.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's quite a workout. I could tell. We'll
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  Speaker 3: get to that. But just watching her, I got tired,
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  Speaker 3: and so I drank another beer and just listen to music.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and pretended you were hula hooping in your head. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: you're like, I'm so good at this in my head.
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  Speaker 3: But I was like, man, that's a thing again. I
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  Speaker 3: had no idea, but it's a big thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, hula hooping.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: But it's been around for a while.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, it has.
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  Speaker 1: For example, Chuck, did you know. As Robert points out,
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  Speaker 1: Robert Lamb wrote this article from Stuff to Blow your mind.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and he says that the hula hoop has
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  Speaker 1: been around in some form or fashion since before most
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  Speaker 1: of the world's religions. Wow, that's really saying something.
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  Speaker 3: That is saying something. So let's get in the way
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  Speaker 3: back machine.
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  Speaker 1: Oh we're going way back time.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go back to one thousand BC. My friend
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  Speaker 3: and we're in Egypt, and they're little children, Egyptian children
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  Speaker 3: with dried up grapevines they've made into hoops playing with them.
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  Speaker 1: And there's some Egyptian who's like, get off of my
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  Speaker 1: patch of sand kids. Yeah, you know, instead of a lawn.
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  Speaker 3: Sure, I get it. That was good. It was all right.
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  Speaker 3: So they they no doubt use them in similar ways
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  Speaker 3: that we did today. But they what one thing they
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  Speaker 3: did which was a big sporting thing to do for
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  Speaker 3: a long time, which I don't get personally. The fun
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  Speaker 3: value that is is using a stick to push a
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  Speaker 3: hula hoop down the road.
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  Speaker 1: I think the fun in it is that the hula
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  Speaker 1: hoop as it's traveling down the road, which does seem
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  Speaker 1: to be the oldest use of the hoop as a
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  Speaker 1: playtime activity, right, Yeah, it wants to fall, It wants
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  Speaker 1: to fall over, sure, right, So if you can keep
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  Speaker 1: it going, then there's probably a tremendous amount of personal
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  Speaker 1: satisfaction that you can carry all the way to bedtime
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  Speaker 1: with and maybe have good dreams because.
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  Speaker 3: Of Yeah, I don't even see if you had a
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  Speaker 3: plastic polyethylene hula hoop, a modern hoop, I don't see
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  Speaker 3: how a stick like how you would even push it.
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  Speaker 1: You would want a stick with maybe like a fork, No,
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  Speaker 1: probably something like a stick with a big wad of
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  Speaker 1: chewed bubblegum on it to like just have some sort
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  Speaker 1: of point of contact. Because, as we'll see when we
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  Speaker 1: talk about hula hoop physics, friction plays a big part
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  Speaker 1: in making hula hoops hula hoop.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, around the waist that is.
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  Speaker 1: Well in any In this case as well, the stick
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  Speaker 1: makes contact with the hoop, you're using friction to push
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  Speaker 1: it along.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, good point.
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  Speaker 1: So I see your point. Like, if you're gonna use
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  Speaker 1: a stick on a like a plastic hula hoop, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna slide off, or it's gonna want.
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  Speaker 3: To Maybe it scares me. That's why I think it's dumb.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe I would be made a fool of by the hoop.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm in timidy maybe.
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  Speaker 1: At first, but chuck, you would have to hang in
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  Speaker 1: there and stick with it. Yeah, and pretty soon you'd
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  Speaker 1: be rolling hoops like an Egyptian kid.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, like an ancient Egyptian child.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Hoop rolling was a big deal throughout ancient Greece as
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  Speaker 3: well and Rome. They decorated them with bells and things
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  Speaker 3: and toys. Fifth century BC. There's you ever heard of
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  Speaker 3: ganny Mead? Of course, ganymedey Mead, gany Mead. He was
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  Speaker 3: a handsome hero. Oh, he was, he handsomest.
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  Speaker 1: Supposedly there's an old fifth century BC urn of him
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  Speaker 1: where he's holding a rooster that was apparently a gift
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  Speaker 1: from Zeus. Yeah, and a hoop, a hula hoop, clearly
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  Speaker 1: a hula hoop. And apparently this discovery I'm not sure
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  Speaker 1: why it's called the Berlin painter eurn, but it is. Okay, again,
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  Speaker 1: no idea, but apparently they they said, well, I wonder
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  Speaker 1: if hoops played a role in the earliest Olympics. And
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  Speaker 1: I guess they've discredited that idea now, but for a while,
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  Speaker 1: because of this earn this picture of ganny Meade with
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  Speaker 1: a hoop, they wondered.
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  Speaker 3: Was it a sport? Yeah, an Olympic sport.
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  Speaker 1: But the Greeks supposedly did use hoops for physical fitness
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  Speaker 1: as like a physical activity in very much the same
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  Speaker 1: way it's become popular today.
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  Speaker 3: I would imagine an Olympic hula hooper would be sort
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  Speaker 3: of like the you know, the uh what was the
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  Speaker 3: sport the curler of today? Are you kind of like
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  Speaker 3: an ancient Greece? Like, hey, what do you throw the hammer?
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  Speaker 3: What do you do? I'm hula hooper?
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  Speaker 1: Oh, although I would guess it'd probably be more akin
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  Speaker 1: to the hula hoopers of today.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the hoop roller is what the sport would have been.
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  Speaker 1: That'd be more like curling, right, hula hooping. That's tough, man.
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  Speaker 3: It is tough. What else? The ancient Britons they had
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  Speaker 3: a game called the battle game called Kill the Hoop. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I like this one when they would roll the hoop
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  Speaker 3: and throw try to throw a spear through it. Yep,
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  Speaker 3: pretty neat and dangerous and apparently they also used it
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  Speaker 3: in the hula method and it would people get injured.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a fifteenth fourteenth or fifteenth century, fourteenth
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  Speaker 1: was it the fourteen hundreds or the fourteenth century fourteenth
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  Speaker 1: century hula hoop craze? Yeah in Britain? Isn't that bizarre?
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  Speaker 3: That is weird?
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  Speaker 1: And yeah, people were getting injured there was a proclamation
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  Speaker 1: by the early physicians. They would pull up their like
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  Speaker 1: crows mask the masks just long enough to be like,
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  Speaker 1: stay away from hula hoops, steer clear of those things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, the warning was hoops kill was I guess what
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  Speaker 3: was posted on the church door.
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  Speaker 1: And this is like in addition to being in the
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  Speaker 1: way of a spear that was being thrown at a
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  Speaker 1: rolling hoop. Yeah, like this is just from hula hooping.
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  Speaker 3: I would stay away from the hoops altogether if I
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  Speaker 3: was in ancient Briton.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because really, if you're like an ancient Briton, Huh,
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  Speaker 1: you're going from like zero to sixty as far as
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  Speaker 1: like physical fitness goes. Sure once you're hula hooping.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you know, just because you're not just sitting
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  Speaker 3: around eating like a lamb's brains, right, yeah, drinking mead?
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  Speaker 3: Uh what else? The Native Americans have a long culture
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  Speaker 3: of using the hoop in New Mexico, the Taos Pueblo people,
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  Speaker 3: they use them in ritual dances, private healing ceremonies. And
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  Speaker 3: did you look up this chunky thing?
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  Speaker 1: No, did you find the chunky reference?
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  Speaker 3: I did. The Cahokian Native Americans that.
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  Speaker 1: Was an unusual way to pronounce that.
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  Speaker 3: Well, how would you say it?
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  Speaker 1: Cahokien?
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  Speaker 3: I think in Native American would be hoke.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, that's fine.
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  Speaker 3: Near Saint Louis apparently is where they played this game Chunky,
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  Speaker 3: which I just had to look it up because a
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  Speaker 3: game called Chunky with an E y and from what
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  Speaker 3: I saw, it was more of a small stone disc
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  Speaker 3: than like a hula hoop looking thing.
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  Speaker 1: And you would it was like kill the hoop though
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  Speaker 1: in Britain.
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  Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, they would throw a stick. Apparently it looked
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  Speaker 3: like a combination of like bachi and and kill the hoop.
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  Speaker 3: Weird because I think they would try and throw the
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  Speaker 3: spear where the disc would eventually land, and the closest
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  Speaker 3: to the disc one.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, that's how like they're predicting where this where the
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  Speaker 1: hoop would fall. I guess this makes sense, although that's
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  Speaker 1: not really like.
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  Speaker 3: Bachi at all. I mean, I get there's a proximity
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  Speaker 3: element that's bochi.
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  Speaker 1: S yes, yeah, well put, but I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, Like once I saw that and saw pictures,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, I don't even know if they should
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  Speaker 3: be in this article. Yeah, because it's like a small doughnut.
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  Speaker 3: That's a hoop of sorts, I guess. So it's a
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  Speaker 3: stretch if you asked me. But it was a big
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  Speaker 3: spectator sport, like fifty acre stadiums of people would watch this.
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  Speaker 3: Wow would go to junkie games and so chunkie matches.
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  Speaker 1: So there was chunky matches in Coahokiah. Yeah, and the
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  Speaker 1: pueblo used there. I think, as you said, they used hoops,
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  Speaker 1: and they weren't the only ones. There were other tribes
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  Speaker 1: from all over North America and meso America. I believe
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  Speaker 1: that used hoops for dancing. Yeah, and apparently it was
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  Speaker 1: in nineteen thirty a guy named Tony white Cloud, who
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  Speaker 1: was a Yemez Pueblo down in New Mexico, did like
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  Speaker 1: a hoop dance in public and basically brought it back.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it had been virtually lost to the ages,
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  Speaker 1: at least as far as the average American was concerned. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: most people didn't know this was the thing. Luckily, Tony
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  Speaker 1: white Cloub was like, check this out, did an awesome
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  Speaker 1: hoop dance, and then by nineteen ninety one there were
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  Speaker 1: national hoop dancing competitions in New Mexico and they're a
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  Speaker 1: big deal still to this day.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, of course, I think. Did he kick off the
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  Speaker 3: American craze? Yes, no he didn't.
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  Speaker 1: He was strictly native American hoop dancing, gotcha, not hula hooping.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, so let's go to well, let's take a break actually,
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  Speaker 3: because this is this is the big revelation here, that's right,
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  Speaker 3: all right, Josh, we're at that point where mainstream America
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  Speaker 3: goes hoop crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But to get to that point, we actually have to
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  Speaker 1: go backward again in time for a second.
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  Speaker 3: Back in the way back machine.
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  Speaker 1: So let's quote it running. Let's go to I don't know,
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  Speaker 1: Fiji or Tahiti or Polynesia. Yeah, and it's the eighteenth century. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: see all these British sailors.
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  Speaker 3: Can we drink some rum?
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  Speaker 1: Oh man? Okay, yeah, in addition to the room we've
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  Speaker 1: already drank today. All right, good, So the British sailors
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  Speaker 1: that you see here are noticing a houla dance, right,
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  Speaker 1: and they're filing it away in their mental catalog. And
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  Speaker 1: now when they reach Briton again, Yeah, why have we
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  Speaker 1: been saying it like that? I don't know, they notice
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  Speaker 1: that it bears a striking resemblance to what people do
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  Speaker 1: with the hula hoop.
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  Speaker 3: You gyrate every time you'd say that, by the way,
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  Speaker 3: you can't in your seat, can't not do it, Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So the term hula became applied to the hoop, especially
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  Speaker 1: when you used your hips to gyrate. Sure to rotate them, Yes,
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  Speaker 1: when you rotate your hips with the hoop. These British
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  Speaker 1: sailors ended up applying the word hula to it, and
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  Speaker 1: it stuck. That's where it came from, was Polynesia.
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  Speaker 3: Right, even though there was no hoop involved in Polynesia? Correct, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: they just kind of ganked that word. Ye think their
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  Speaker 3: own purposes.
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  Speaker 1: Is nineteen ninety seven all over again.
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  Speaker 3: That was a big nineties termo, wasn't it yanked?
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Let's go watch some X Files.
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  Speaker 3: Let's actually yeah, the movie's coming out soon right. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they're doing another one, aren't they. Yeah. That thing will
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  Speaker 3: never die. I don't think it should keep doing movies,
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  Speaker 3: That's what I say.
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  Speaker 1: So. So we mentioned that the Greeks I believe used
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  Speaker 1: it for physical fitness, right.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we said that.
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  Speaker 1: I think I said it. Okay. The Swiss actually came
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  Speaker 1: to adopt it for the same reasons too. In the
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  Speaker 1: nineteenth century and early twentieth century.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, someone named Emil Jacques Dalcroze and that was great.
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  Speaker 3: That's tough. Had a program called Eurythmics, which, of course
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  Speaker 3: I started singing Sweet Dreams this morning, of course because
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  Speaker 3: of that, and I've been singing it all day as
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  Speaker 3: a result. So that was a special training program and
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  Speaker 3: it was apparently a big deal.
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  Speaker 1: It was a big deal. So eurhythmics used hoops for
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  Speaker 1: basically physical fitness but also interpretive dance that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: It was a combination of It was like dance training
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  Speaker 1: is what I can gather, and it used hoops. The
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  Speaker 1: reason that we're mentioning this when we're talking about the
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  Speaker 1: American craze is that it directly led to the American
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  Speaker 1: craze potentially because eurhythmics spread from Switzerland to Great Britain
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  Speaker 1: and it was brought in as part of like pe
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  Speaker 1: class in Australia, and it was in Australia that the
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  Speaker 1: founders of Whammo were inspired to create the modern hula
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  Speaker 1: hoop that we think of today boom. So it's possible
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  Speaker 1: they watched the eurhythmics class or heard about a eurhythmics
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  Speaker 1: class with Australian kids and then said, well, this is
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  Speaker 1: a clearly something of Australian design and let's bring it
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  Speaker 1: to the US and start a craze.
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  Speaker 3: They said, sweet dreams were made of these. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: this was Richard Knerr and Arthur spud Melon mel maline
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  Speaker 3: melon sounds like.
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: M l O N like Thornton Mellon.
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  Speaker 3: Uh huh. Don't tease me with that movie, The Great
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  Speaker 3: Back to School. I saw a bit of that recently. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and the only thought through my head was like, man,
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  Speaker 3: why couldn't I have caught this from the beginning? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: because I wanted to see it all.
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  Speaker 1: That And man, his son is pasty.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I thought you were saying that
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  Speaker 3: was a line for the movie. It should have been. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: his son Keith Gordon, who became a great movie director.
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  Speaker 3: Oh really Yeah, the guy from Christine and Back to School?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah. He gave up acting and started directing
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  Speaker 3: movies and directed a bunch of good movies, one called
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  Speaker 3: Waking the Dead.
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  Speaker 1: You should see, I thought Keith Gordon co starred, and
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  Speaker 1: they live.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know, Maybe I'll have to check that. So
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  Speaker 3: where were we oh yes. The two founders of Whammo,
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  Speaker 3: they said, you know what, let's take these wooden hoops,
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  Speaker 3: let's make them out of polyethylene. Let's make them forty inches,
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  Speaker 3: and let's charge a dollar ninety eight for them and
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  Speaker 3: make them all kinds of fun colors.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and boom.
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  Speaker 3: The hula hoop craze in nineteen fifty eight was born.
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  Speaker 1: Like it was the definition of a flash in the
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  Speaker 1: pan craze.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of money in a very short span.
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  Speaker 1: Of time, like a summer. Basically pretty much. In nineteen
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  Speaker 1: fifty eight, WMO released it, and by the end of
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  Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight these things were rotting in the warehouse.
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  Speaker 1: But in the meantime they sold globally, globally from the
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  Speaker 1: summer to the end of nineteen fifty eight, one hundred
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  Speaker 1: million hula hoops.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, more than that, I think.
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: Damn my brain.
• 17:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you forgot what we were talking about.
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: I almost said frisbees.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Did we do one on the frisbee?
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: No?
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: I thought we had, but we haven't have we No,
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: we did one on the boomerang. Oh right, just like
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: a frisbee, but not it's like a dangerous frisbee. Uh
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: So they sell all these hula hoops. They make a
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: ton of money, like, you know, over fifty million dollars
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: in a short span of time, which I'm sure they
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: weren't happy with the that it didn't last, but they're
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: all so probably like an injection of cash like that
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: is great for any business.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Then they moved on to the frisbee and made
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: even more money.
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they did not secure a patent for it.
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: I guess it didn't matter in the long run.
• 18:10
  Speaker 1: Well, they couldn't because it was so demonstrably an ancient
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: invention that nobody could patent it. Nope, But they trademarked it.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: They did. They trademarked the name hula hoop in the
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: United States, which is why we still call it hula
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: hoop today. I guess. Yeah, it just became.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: They should probably put the title with a R in
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: a circle for this.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, we should do that, like Barbie. Yeah. It
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: was named the number thirty five a toy of all
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: Time by Time magazine. And they know toys, they know
• 18:39
  Speaker 3: their toys. And then from nineteen sixty eight to nineteen
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: eighty one, there were national hula hoop contests held and
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: the guests in the early eighties people were finished with it.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: There were also like a tremendous amount of music, like
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: musical singles released called the hula hoop song. Oh really,
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: different people recorded different songs about hula hooping.
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: Doesn't surprise me.
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a craze big time. Yeah, and you
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: say that they were done with it by the eighties,
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: not true. The national competitions there was so if you
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: look at hula hooping records, yea, the most recent hula
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: hoop records from two thousand and nine.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: Wow. But was that part of a national competition?
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: Probably for just a guy named Aaron Hibbs, he hula hoop,
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: just hula hooped for seventy four hours and fifty four minutes. Wow.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: He broke the record of.
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: I couldn't even stand up for that long.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: He broke the record of a girl named Kim Koberly.
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: She held the record twice, in nineteen seventy eight with
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: fifty four hours and in nineteen eighty four for seventy
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: two hours. Wow, which is pretty impressive.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, people were still like hundreds of them at once.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. There was a guy named Paul Dizzy hips Blair
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: who set the record in two thousand and nine with
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty two hoops at the same time.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: Wow, that's impressive.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: He's basically probably just like like the Michelin man made
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: of hula hoops.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. To ever tell you about the Surface Area Man
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: costume and Athens. No, that was out on Halloween in
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: Athens in college, and that was a dude. I know.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: The guy's name was Blake. He has you may have
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: seen him. He had big red dreadlocks, kind of a
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: short guy, just a ubiquitous Athens dude. No, he lives
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: kind of in my neighborhood now. I still see him
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: every once in a while. We called him Sideshow Blake
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: because of Sideshow Bobs. Sure, and he came in the
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: bar and the Georgia Bar, and he had these foam
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: discs around his arms, around his legs, around his waist
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: and neck that were huge, like probably four feet across,
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: and he was Surface Area Man. And that was just
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: his costume because when he moved around, he took up like,
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: you know, probably seventy five square feet in space and
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: he would just move through the bar and say Surface
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: Area Man. And I'll always remember every time I see Blake.
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: I saw him at the grocery store the other day.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Was he dressed like that?
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: No? But I also like surface. He wouldn't fit down
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: the grocery aisle.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Does he have dread still?
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Does he really still rocking the red dreads?
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: He's dedicated?
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: He looks exactly the same. Actually, but we weren't friends.
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: I could actually see him. Actually, I'm gonna just walk
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: by him and go surface area. Man, you should I'm
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: gonna do it. All right, Let's talk about the Hudsucker
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: Proxy for a quick moment, and then we'll take another break. Okay,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: did you ever see that one?
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: I don't think I made it through that one.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: The Coen Brothers, Yeah, uh not.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: All of their movies are great.
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: I disagree.
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: I love the Coen Brothers, but some of their movies stink.
• 21:38
  Speaker 3: Oh boy, that they're part of my one hundred percent
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: club where every movie they've made has been great?
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: That is wrong?
• 21:45
  Speaker 3: Which other ones? Don't? You like?
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: The Man who Wasn't there?
• 21:47
  Speaker 3: Loved it?
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: Bob Robertson, They didn't.
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: That wasn't theirs?
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Well it was terrible. Okay, uh? Well the Hudsucker Proxy too,
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: all right, I liked it.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: I would put it at lesser Cohen's for sure, you'd
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: have to. But I enjoyed it quite a bit. Tim
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Robbins and Jennifer Jason Lee and Paul Newman in a
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: fictitious tale of the invention of the hula hoop. It
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: is not the true biopic of the invention of the
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: hula hoop, but they co opted it for one of
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: their movies, and it was I think pretty great.
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, but that's just me, okay, so go ahead.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Well, no, that was it. I just wanted to shout
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: it out.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: Fine, Well, then let's take a break because we're about
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to get into physics.
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and hoop games yep.
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: After this, No Country for Old Men terrible. I'm kidding,
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: I'm kidding.
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Do you like that one?
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: I love that one. That's maybe the best. Raising Arizona
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: is probably the best.
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: It'd be tough for me to pick on any given day,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: but Fargo is the one I can watch over yeah
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: and over.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. I would say this three year type for first.
• 23:17
  Speaker 3: Did we just come back from the break just segueing
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: right back into the car?
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: All right, let's do it.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: We'll see how Jerry edits this, so.
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: Let's it wouldn't be a stuff you should know podcast
• 23:26
  Speaker 3: if we didn't talk about the science behind something seemingly unscientific.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Well, hula hoops are super complex as far as physics goes.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: You know that, super complex, super complex.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: There's just a few things.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: We are not in agreement on stuff today, are we?
• 23:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know what's going on.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: So let's say you have a hula hoop, right, and
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: it's around your waist, and you take it and you
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: throw it. You have it up against maybe one hip, sure,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: making contact with your body.
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: That you're starting in the traditional way, then.
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: Sure, and you whip it around, yeah, to one side,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and as you do, you start rotating your hip. You're gyrating, right,
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: I'm rotating my hips, chants, and as you do that,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: when you rotate your hips, what you're doing is, first
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: of all, you're conserving the angular momentum you gave the
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: hula hoop when you pushed it in a certain direction,
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: you twisted it around yourself.
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: Right, that's right. You are the axis.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Yes, you are the axis.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: And when you move your hips around, when you rotate
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: your hips, you're applying what's called torque.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Because all this hoop wants to do is fall
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: down around on the ground and make you look foolish.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: It wants to stop. Well, no, it doesn't want to
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: stop because of inertia. It wants to keep going, but
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: it can't because of friction. But it wants to fall
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: down to the ground like you said, and make you
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: look foolish. Yeah, but ironically that same friction is keeping
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: it from doing that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: Who's the fool now, hoop the hula hoop? Yep, fool?
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: All right? Did you talk about the torque?
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I did talk about torqu and torque is a twisting
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: force where you're twisting your hips and you're thrusting the
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: hula hoop in a circle, and what you're doing there
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: is contributing to the centripetal force.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: That's right and centrific goal no centripet all two different
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: things move.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: Is a force that moves at a right angle to
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: the motion of your body, so it keeps that thing
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: whatever it is, say, hula hoop or tractor tire, which,
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: by the way, someone set a record hula hooping with
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: a tractor tire. Shut up, really yeah, for like seventy
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: seconds of fifty four pound tire.
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: How big was a person?
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: I'm sure it was ginormous. I think he was from
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: like Baylor Roos or something, you know.
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they do that on a daily basis.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: So with the centripetal force is going at a right
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: angle to the direction that you're thrusting your hips, it's
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: constantly going to move around a circle on the axis.
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: That is centripetal force. Boom, centripetal motion. I should say yes.
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: And when the soop wants to fall, of course, we're
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: talking about gravity. Gravity wants to win that fight. But
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: if you keep that pulsing gyration going, then you're going
• 26:02
  Speaker 3: to keep that hoop just a little ahead of the curve.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's apparently the key. And Robert puts this in here.
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Is it kind of like a throwaway thing?
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the thing.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: It's the key of hula hooping. Is you want your
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: hip to move just before that that I guess wave
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: that comes in contact with your body again, comes in contact, comes.
• 26:25
  Speaker 3: Back around, catch and release in a way. Okay, you
• 26:28
  Speaker 3: can catch it on your hip and then slinging it
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: back around. Now I'm gyrating, yeah you are.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Wow, there's a lot of gyrating going on in this
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: room right now.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: There is.
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: It's crazy.
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: So there's a few different parts of the body at work.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: I don't know why in two thousand and four they
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: needed a fifteen page study in the Journal of Biological
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: Cybernetics to figure this out, because if you just look
• 26:51
  Speaker 3: at somebody, you can tell that the hips, knees, and
• 26:54
  Speaker 3: ankles are really what's at play keeping that thing going.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: And that's if you're just doing the hip who hoop,
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: not right neck and legs and all that.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Of course, yeah, just the standard hooping right.
• 27:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: And so another study I think four years later in
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: the Journal of Human Movement side.
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: I don't know why they needed that either.
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: They built upon this two thousand and four study and said, okay,
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: you use your hips, knees, and ankles. Everybody uses it,
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: but depending on the individual, there'll be different contributions from
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: the hips, knees or ankle depends on the motion of
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: your ocean exactly. So it's like the individual. Everybody uses
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: the same the same parts, but they use them in
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: different percentages to come up with the hula hooping motion.
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah. I bet certain body types are better at this
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: than others too.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, slim, yeah, yeah, probably.
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: So I met the one in front of Craig's band.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: She was pretty slam I guess sure she's working that thing. Man.
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: It was like, it was pretty amazing.
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: Hula hoop.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: So that's hoop dancing. When we'll finish up here with
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: some other games.
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: Well, we didn't talk about hoop dancing. We were just
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: talking about hula hooping.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: No, we talked about hoop dancing at the beginning with
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: that lady. Oh yeah, okay, so that's hoop dancing. Okay,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: that's when you you know, it's around the neck and
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: then you work it down around your hips and then
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: up one arm and then up the other arm, right right,
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: It's pretty impressive. Your standard hula hooping, of course, which
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: we've covered. Speed endurance depends on what you're after. Sure,
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: like I want to do this for twenty minutes.
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: Or I want to do it seventy four hours.
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: Really fast for five minutes.
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: Okay. Hoop rolling, that's one of my favorite.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: Hoop trundling, Like you're a little ancient Egyptian kid.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I'd like to see you do that hoop rolling. Sure,
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: let's do it.
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: Let's do a video for that.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: Okay, we could do a periscope of it. Oh yeah,
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: let's do that.
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: Are we going to start doing that?
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: We could do at least one of me hoop rolling.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: I think people, Well, we're going to get emails.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll they'll turn out in droves to see that.
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: Sure, hundreds of people will show it for that.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: There's one not on this list that I want to
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: give a shout out to you.
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: All right?
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: What it was invented? Apparently in Belgium they call it
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: Belgium skipping. It's called ankle skipping. It's where you put
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: the hula hoop on one foot around one ankle, and
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: you use it to hula hoop. You make the hula
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: hoop motion with that one and as it comes around,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: you jump through the hoop with the other one.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: I can't believe it wasn't on this list.
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a solid hoop endeavor.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: But apparently it's a pretty recent invention from like the sixties.
• 29:23
  Speaker 3: Oh really, all right, that makes sense. That's sort of
• 29:26
  Speaker 3: like hoop jumping, but not quite.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: No, hoop jumping is more like jump roping with a
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: hula hoop.
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but that kind of reminds me of that too.
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 29:36
  Speaker 3: Hoop jumping is when you hold the hula hoop the
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: top of it, and then you swing it around your
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: body and jump up and down.
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: Okay, like you have nothing better to do in life, right,
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Like you can't find a jump rope. You haven't heard
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: of those before?
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: Return the hoop. This is the only one I was
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: ever good at. That's when you hold it vertically and
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: you fling it out as hard as you can backwards,
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: and it sort of spins place and comes back to you.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Right, And if you're not expecting it, you're going to
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: turn and run because it is startling.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: We've already talked about kill the hoop. We don't recommend
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: you use spears to do that, or just.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: Make sure nobody's in the vicinity of where the hoop is. Yeah,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: you don't want to combine hoop chundling and kill the
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: hoop because you'll kill the hoop chundlure.
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: No, And I'm not even uncovered this last one. I
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: dare you too, though.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I like this one. Hoop your environment, Yeah, right, go ahead.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: So it's like you put hula hoops around and you
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: jump from them like they're islands and there's lava in between. Okay,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: what's wrong with that? I don't know too childish.
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: No, I'm very childish, but I don't know. I just didn't.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: There's your childlike not childish. Oh, gotcha, big difference, man.
• 30:48
  Speaker 3: Uh, well, we talked about exercise. It is legitimate exercise.
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: Our hula hoop classes. Now apparently Mursa Tomay, the actor,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: took hoop fitness classes to lose weight or to get
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: in shape for her movie The Wrestler in two thousand
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: and eight. First Lady Michelle Obama.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: Has very famously hoop worked out.
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hooped the lawn of the White House to say, hey, kids,
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: get active and at the US Open, Yeah, you can
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: still have fun by doing this. Yeah. And they even
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: did another study to see what kind of calories you
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: could burn.
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: Lots of hoop studies too many.
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: They took women between sixteen and fifty nine and said
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: go crazy and hoop and they yeah. And they were
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: weighted hoops too, by the way, which is not to
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: say they were super heavy. They're generally still pretty light weight.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but strangely weighted hoop is easier to keep going.
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: Yes, which makes sense, I think. And they average one
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: hundred and fifty one beats per minute bpmat yeah, heart beats.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: Oh their heart.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, tribe coal quests would be proud, right.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 32:05
  Speaker 3: And that is burning seven calories a minute or two
• 32:08
  Speaker 3: hundred and ten calories during a half hour of hooping.
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: So that's good exercise people.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: That's like weightlifting type calorie burn.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: Plus also like if you just break it down to
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: calorie first of all, Chuck, I want to do an
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: episode and I'm not quite sure how to frame it yet.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: It doesn't have a thesis. But there are so many
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: like medical myths out there that are just taken as facture,
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: even by the medical establishment, even though like if you
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: asked a doctor like is this fact they would be like, no, no, actually,
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: it's not like drinking eight glasses of water a day. Yeah,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: totally made up. And you're going to say that, Like,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: I think we should do one on medical myths sometime.
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: What do you think we should have? We not?
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: No, Like part of me wants to say we have,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: but I think it things to have just come up
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: like here or there over the years. Anyway, if even
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: if you take the calories out of the equation, just
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: hula hooping the standard hip gyration hula hoop, yeah, will
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: really really work out your core.
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, like you need a hula hoop.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: No, you can just sit in your chair and do
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  Speaker 1: what I'm doing now. Yeah, like I'm getting I'm sweating.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah right now, you totally are. My lip My upper
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  Speaker 1: lip is broken out in perspiration.
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  Speaker 3: Uh. Modern hooping burlesque uses hoops. If you go to
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  Speaker 3: any music festival these days, you're going to see the
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  Speaker 3: ladies like I was talking about, or they might have
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  Speaker 3: him decked out with LEDs or even fire.
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  Speaker 1: Well what's neat is LED hula hoops in particular are
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  Speaker 1: really displaying like the physics of hula hoops pretty neat
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  Speaker 1: through Like, what's that type of photography LSD? No, No, uh,
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  Speaker 1: what's the what's that photography where you like you just
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  Speaker 1: keep the shutter open so it like high exposure, long exposure.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you just said it, keeping that shutter open. It's
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  Speaker 3: like when you see the pictures of the cars on
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  Speaker 3: the freeway right and it's just like a long trail
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  Speaker 3: of headlights.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but there are photos out there of LED hula
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  Speaker 1: hoops there. It's just like you can see they don't
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  Speaker 1: just keep like a flat path. They go all over
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  Speaker 1: the place in some way. It's really neat.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty cool. What about this lady, the Israeli sculptor.
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  Speaker 3: Did you watch that?
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  Speaker 1: I saw a couple of pictures of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yes. Her name is Cigolette Landau, and in two thousand
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  Speaker 3: and three she did a performance art slash political statement
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  Speaker 3: piece where she did it was called barbed Hula and
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  Speaker 3: she was naked and hula hooped with a barbed wire
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  Speaker 3: hula hoop that just tore her abdomen up. Yeah, it's
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  Speaker 3: really rough. Yeah, it was pretty disturbing. But she said
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  Speaker 3: she was on an Israeli beach that she defined as
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  Speaker 3: the only common natural border Israel has. So she was
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  Speaker 3: making a statement to my friend, Well.
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  Speaker 1: She's an artist.
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  Speaker 3: That's what they do.
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  Speaker 1: I got a couple of last things. Let's hear it
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  Speaker 1: in the that hula hoop craze.
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  Speaker 3: Of the fifties of yeah, yes, yeah, not the not
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  Speaker 3: the fourteenth century Briton one. There.
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  Speaker 1: It was in Japan, it was banned. The hula hoop
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  Speaker 1: was banned because they're worried it was going to lead
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  Speaker 1: to actual stuff things happening gyrating hips. Yeah, and apparently
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  Speaker 1: the Soviets said that it was a it was evidence
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  Speaker 1: of the emptiness of American culture, the hula hoop craze. Really, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: leave to the Soviets to be like Americans. Go on,
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• 35:42
  Speaker 1: everything we were taught about the Soviet Union was basically
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  Speaker 1: made up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were like, you know, the average Russian
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  Speaker 1: Here, Yeah, and the average Russian was a lot like
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  Speaker 1: the average American, and.
• 35:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah, drunk on vodka, I'm gonna live forever.
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