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Ep. 675: MeatEater Radio Live! The Goosinator, Vintage Guns, and Movie Taxidermy · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Smell us Now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Meet Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain Time.
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  Speaker 1: That's ten am for our friends in Depot Bay, Oregon
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  Speaker 1: on Thursday, March thirteenth, and we're live for Meet Eater
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  Speaker 1: HQ and Boasman, Montana. I'm your host, Spencer Newhart, joined
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  Speaker 1: today by Corey Calkins and Randa Williams. On today's show,
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  Speaker 1: we'll talk to Aaron mchelraith about how in Alberta City
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  Speaker 1: Hayes's geese. Then we'll do one minute fishing with American
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  Speaker 1: hero Pat Durkin. After that we'll play The Price Is Right,
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  Speaker 1: and finally we'll talk to Joel Collander about some rare
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  Speaker 1: guns from the Rock Island auction Randall, I was jealous
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  Speaker 1: last week that you came up with a new bit
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  Speaker 1: of shouting out a time zone? Would you do last week.
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  Speaker 2: Hungry Hungary our friend mogor So.
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  Speaker 1: I was inspired by that. Plus my favorite radio station
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  Speaker 1: grown up as a kid, Kicking Country, would have the
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  Speaker 1: South Dakota town of the day. So now I want
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  Speaker 1: to shout out little towns or places that I really like,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, just give them a little not today. Deep Otbay, Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: I've been there twice. It's the whale watching capital of Oregon.
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  Speaker 1: And the one time I saw some whales right from
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  Speaker 1: their dang main street. Real fun, fascinating, philed you ever
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  Speaker 1: you like from that part of the world.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no. My family used to go to Deepot
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  Speaker 3: Bay every summer. We would stay at the surf Righter
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  Speaker 3: Inn just north of Deepot Bay. The most violently ill
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  Speaker 3: I've ever been was on a whale watching tour that
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  Speaker 3: went out of Deepot Bay. Also a fun fact. And
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  Speaker 3: to kill not to kill a mockingbird?
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  Speaker 2: What's the side of the mountain?
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  Speaker 3: No, the mental institution. Oh yeah, I'm getting my birds
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  Speaker 3: mixed up.
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  Speaker 2: I thought you were talking about coming of age when they.
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  Speaker 3: Go out on a boat on the ocean that was
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  Speaker 3: shot in deep.
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  Speaker 1: O Bay, world's smallest navigable harbor. I think they. I
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  Speaker 1: think some win themselves out. Shout out Deepot Bay. I
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  Speaker 1: love your little town you got there, koy Ran. What
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  Speaker 1: you boys been up too lately?
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  Speaker 4: Oh Man, not much?
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I don't want to I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to insert myself here, but it's been a good week
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  Speaker 2: for uh Randall yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, now we can acknowledge that.
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  Speaker 2: I want to there's an elephant in the room.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty twenty four meat Eater Trivia champion.
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  Speaker 2: And I see the support in the chat. I love it.
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  Speaker 2: Where uh, we'll be working on that randomal shirt. It
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  Speaker 2: might be like a twenty twenty eight twenty nine project.
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  Speaker 3: Dylan's asking for some clarification. Is it random les with
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  Speaker 3: an I or randomals with an A? And I've got
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  Speaker 3: a second point of clarification. Is it Randall moles. That's
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  Speaker 3: a little that's kind of a mouthful, but to me
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  Speaker 3: it makes more sense.
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  Speaker 2: I don't envisioned randomals with an I like. I like
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  Speaker 2: that rand animals. It should have been the animals.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, next time you win cooy, which you've been up
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  Speaker 1: too lately. Besides, you know Pat and Randall on the
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  Speaker 1: back over here for winning.
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  Speaker 4: Well, yeah, congrats, buddy, well deserved. You know, we just
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  Speaker 4: wrapped up a couple of days with Taylor and Will
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  Speaker 4: from busting with the boys.
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  Speaker 1: Because I've ever heard of them, Yeah, I've seen those
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  Speaker 1: tall fellers.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah a tall.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's not that tall.
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  Speaker 1: I mean tall the regular folks in the media to office.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's just that he hangs out tall.
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  Speaker 2: I call myself six two, but posture wise probably five
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  Speaker 2: eleven getunched. But when you say you're two hundred fifty
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  Speaker 2: pounds five eleven, it gives off a very different impression,
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  Speaker 2: so I go six to two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you're showing those boys around Montana while they're here.
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  Speaker 2: Well a little bit.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, we had them out at the gun range getting
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  Speaker 4: prepped and ready for a coyote hunt. They went out
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  Speaker 4: with Steve. Was that yesterday morning? It was quite a
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  Speaker 4: whirlwind while they were here. Oh, here's some good shots
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  Speaker 4: when they went coyote hunting and beaver trapping with Steve yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: Very successful on the beavers. They killed a pile of
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  Speaker 4: muskrats as well while they were out there.
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  Speaker 1: And smell it in the office. Still, Yes, as soon
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  Speaker 1: as I walked in.
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  Speaker 4: I tried spraying the poopery sent helper in here and
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  Speaker 4: I can't really do it. But yeah, there's a good
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  Speaker 4: photo of Cal there showing them the works on some
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  Speaker 4: sig rifles. There's Steve flesh and a beaver looks like.
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  Speaker 4: But yeah, showed those guys a great time. They got
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  Speaker 4: to get their hands dirty. Didn't kill any coyotes. I
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  Speaker 4: heard shots were fired, but no dogs were harmed in
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  Speaker 4: the making of this fun time we had. But Steve
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  Speaker 4: will be on their podcast next week listen for that,
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  Speaker 4: and then there'll be some fun video content following that.
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  Speaker 4: Not sure when, but in the near future, so keep
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  Speaker 4: an eye out for that.
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  Speaker 1: If you want more content with Steve and Meadeater, the
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  Speaker 1: bust and Channel is going to have that soon. All right,
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  Speaker 1: let's go to our first interview. Joining us on the
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  Speaker 1: line now were two employees from the city of Lethbridge, Alberta,
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  Speaker 1: who have a unique way of keeping geese off their lakes.
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  Speaker 1: Aaron and Nelson. Welcome to the show.
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  Speaker 6: Hi, thanks for having us.
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  Speaker 1: First thing, tell us where you're standing right now.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, we are at the beautiful Henderson Lake.
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  Speaker 6: It's one of our premier parks in Lethtbridge.
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  Speaker 7: It's one of my favorites because I've had the opportunity
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  Speaker 7: to work here for many years. It has walking past
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  Speaker 7: or the whole park and this beautiful body of water.
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  Speaker 7: Historically there's been a dance hall and basically it's a
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  Speaker 7: hub of activity winter and summer and leftbridge.
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  Speaker 1: All right, now, tell us about the goose problem. That
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  Speaker 1: your city parks have.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, so we have some resident geese that have decided
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  Speaker 7: they love living in Lethbridge and they don't want to
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  Speaker 7: fly south like the rest of their friends do. So
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  Speaker 7: the goose problems are basically we want to make sure
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  Speaker 7: that we keep our waterfowl safe and so we like
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  Speaker 7: them to keep moving on.
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  Speaker 6: We want to keep people safe who use the parks.
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  Speaker 7: There can be human goose conflict as well as with
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  Speaker 7: people's pets, so we don't want.
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  Speaker 6: That to happen.
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  Speaker 7: We also want to make sure that we reduce the
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  Speaker 7: fecal matter in the park. So one goose can look
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  Speaker 7: up the two pounds in a day, that's a lot.
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  Speaker 2: Of food, my goodness, kids.
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  Speaker 6: In the park and a lot of activity.
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  Speaker 7: So we want to try to keep our pathways clean
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  Speaker 7: and free of that foo u. And then just making
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  Speaker 7: sure that we protect our assets and our turfs. So
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  Speaker 7: when geese feed, they can pull the roots of the
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  Speaker 7: grass out and that can cause long term damage with
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  Speaker 7: our turfs. So yeah, it's a multifaceted issue.
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  Speaker 1: And in the past, what did you guys try to
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  Speaker 1: keep these geese off your lakes and parks.
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  Speaker 7: Well, at one point in time we had employees got
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  Speaker 7: out with a dog. They went out to try to
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  Speaker 7: deter the bees term being in the park, but then
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  Speaker 7: it would just make the beast go on to the.
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  Speaker 6: Lake and we couldn't do anything about that.
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  Speaker 7: We've done some egg management with a Damaged Danger permit,
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  Speaker 7: which is a federal hermit, and we really like we've
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  Speaker 7: communicated a lot with the federal government under the Juice
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  Speaker 7: Medice Plan and just trying to make really good decisions
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  Speaker 7: about how to manage the population. But it's really tough
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  Speaker 7: because basically they have a really perfect.
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  Speaker 6: Environment to live here. It's safe, there's really.
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  Speaker 7: No preserve here, and there's water, there's an island, So
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  Speaker 7: it's really tough to manage here.
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  Speaker 1: And that brings us to why we're talking to you today.
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  Speaker 1: Tell us about how you decided to try to solve
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  Speaker 1: that problem this year.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I've wanted the guscinator for a really long time.
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  Speaker 7: I kind of was researching best manag of practices and
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  Speaker 7: this came up as a hazing device, so just trying
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  Speaker 7: to make the area less popular.
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  Speaker 5: For the geese.
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  Speaker 6: And when I saw.
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  Speaker 7: This working, I was just amazed by the fact that
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  Speaker 7: I could work on the craft as well.
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  Speaker 6: As in the water. So when we got the goal
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  Speaker 6: had to purchase it.
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  Speaker 7: We decided that Nelson, who's now management program, to get
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  Speaker 7: good at operating it.
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  Speaker 6: I kind of missed my chance to be the operator
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  Speaker 6: by a year or two.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So we are looking at photos right now of
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  Speaker 1: what is called the Gusinator. It is a large, bright
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  Speaker 1: orange styrofoam like an RC car looking thing with a
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  Speaker 1: couple of a couple of tracks underneath it, and it's
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  Speaker 1: got big eyes and big mean teeth on it. Terify,
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  Speaker 1: that's what they're telling us about, is the Goosinator. How
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  Speaker 1: much did the Gucinator cost?
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  Speaker 6: It was around four thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, four thousand dollars, all right, I want to talk
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  Speaker 1: to Nelson for a bit. Nelson is the one who
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  Speaker 1: operates the Goosenator. Nelson, what's it like to drive that thing?
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  Speaker 5: It's fatly easy.
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  Speaker 8: I got the remote rate here. It's just like any
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  Speaker 8: normal sugar operated remote control. It slides a lot better
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  Speaker 8: on the ice in the water than it is on land.
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  Speaker 8: It actually has some reals that you can attach to
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  Speaker 8: it while you're using it on land, but primarily we've
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  Speaker 8: been using it on the water in the ice okay.
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  Speaker 1: And what's your strategy for scaring away the geese with
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  Speaker 1: the Goosenator? Do you drive it like right into the flock?
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  Speaker 2: No?
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  Speaker 8: Actually, that's part of like learning how to use it,
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  Speaker 8: and especially with a lot of communication from the manufacturer
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  Speaker 8: and the designer about how to use it properly. It's
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  Speaker 8: meant to look like a predator, so you're supposed to
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  Speaker 8: operate it like stalking the geese really slow movements and
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  Speaker 8: you're basically trying to herd them out. The more that
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  Speaker 8: fly away at once, the better of them not coming back.
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  Speaker 1: And how did the geese settive?
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  Speaker 8: Repetitive usage of it is key to so using it
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  Speaker 8: all the time to the point where they recognize the
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  Speaker 8: truck and it coming out of the truck. They start
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  Speaker 8: getting a little frantic when I show up.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So the reaction the geese have they just want
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  Speaker 1: to leave when they see that.
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  Speaker 8: Then, Yes, it's meant to look like a predator and
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  Speaker 8: act as a predator.
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  Speaker 2: It's meant to.
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  Speaker 8: Make them feel like the area is unsafe.
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  Speaker 1: And how do people react to seeing you use the goocinator?
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  Speaker 1: Like have the cops been called on you yet?
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  Speaker 7: No?
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  Speaker 8: At first, like I think we did a good job
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  Speaker 8: with preparing the public of its use, especially with like
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  Speaker 8: Aaron said, communication with the federal government. It's in our
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  Speaker 8: goose management program. Even before we had bought it, we
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  Speaker 8: had started talking about using one and just being prepared
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  Speaker 8: for the feedback that we're going to get on it
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  Speaker 8: really helped out. And while I've been using it, there's
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  Speaker 8: a lot of people that come here to look at
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  Speaker 8: the birds and stuff like that, so they're quite knowledgeable
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  Speaker 8: about why we're using it, and just being able to
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  Speaker 8: talk to them about it has helped out immensely. And
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  Speaker 8: for the most part, the feedback's been pretty good, like
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  Speaker 8: very positive, a lot more than I anticipated, actually, But yeah,
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  Speaker 8: we haven't really had any.
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  Speaker 5: Complaints local coops.
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  Speaker 8: The federal permitting officer did get some emails and calls,
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  Speaker 8: but he already knew about us using it because we've
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  Speaker 8: gone through the proper.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, big question, then, can we see the gusinator in action?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't.
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  Speaker 8: I gotta rate behind me on the truck here. I'll
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  Speaker 8: plug the battery in and obviously there's no lights here anymore,
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  Speaker 8: but there is an island behind me that they tend
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  Speaker 8: to nest at, so I'll just cruise by the island,
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  Speaker 8: and that's what we'll be using it for in the
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  Speaker 8: spring until they actually start uh nesting with eggs and
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  Speaker 8: bolting and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 5: Then we can't use it.
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  Speaker 8: The usage of it, Okay, we'll be using it to
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  Speaker 8: try and keep them from nesting on this island.
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  Speaker 1: Perfect. Let's see that thing in action now. Nelson has
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  Speaker 1: kept it hidden in the back of his truck because
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  Speaker 1: he said usually like seeing his pickup is enough, but
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  Speaker 1: seeing the gucinator especially, we'll get the geese to start
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  Speaker 1: to lift off. He is grabbing the giant r sea boat.
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  Speaker 1: That thing is is quite enormous, and he is now
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  Speaker 1: taking it to the water. We could hear the geese
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  Speaker 1: the entire interview, So I'm optimistic that Nelson's gonna put
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  Speaker 1: on a show for us here. Yeah, look at that thing.
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  Speaker 4: That's straight up nightmare fuel if you were a good.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's running it. It's got a prop on the front. Yeah, understandably.
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  Speaker 1: Will oh Okay, here he goes and the geese are leaving.
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  Speaker 2: The ones in the background.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so you can see this happening on our YouTube channel.
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  Speaker 1: The geese have taken off at this point. Nelson's only
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  Speaker 1: got the Goosinator about twenty yards from sure. Uh, smooth operator.
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  Speaker 1: We've got here.
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  Speaker 2: That's unbelievable.
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  Speaker 1: Need some Jaws theme music going there?
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  Speaker 2: They go there, got a couple from the island.
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  Speaker 1: It's something off. The cool thing about the Goosenator is
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  Speaker 1: it can drive on ice, land and water. This thing
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  Speaker 1: is like even more amphibious than amphibian vehicles because it
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  Speaker 1: can also go on the ice.
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  Speaker 2: He's got a couple of stragglers there.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh oh, I love this couple stubborn geese. And
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  Speaker 1: the person who makes the Goosinator that it looks like
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  Speaker 1: a now a lot of cities and golf courses use uh.
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  Speaker 1: They wanted this thing to look very offensive, so they
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  Speaker 1: might have made it bright orange. Cameraman, can we punch
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  Speaker 1: in on the Gousinator a little bit? Is that? Is
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  Speaker 1: that an option for us? Would love to see these geese.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know.
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  Speaker 3: Jom's going to speak for him. I don't know if
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  Speaker 3: you can pinch zoom on the stream yard app here.
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  Speaker 2: It's not. That's okay, all right, It's still thrilling even
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  Speaker 2: at this distance.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that you can see that Goucinator from a
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  Speaker 1: long ways. Always picking up speed.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh it's got some.
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  Speaker 1: That's great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, here it comes. This is the Gooses perspective here
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  Speaker 2: because it circles.
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  Speaker 1: In Nelson, tell us a little more about what the
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  Speaker 1: geese are doing right now. We can't quite see too
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  Speaker 1: far off in the distance as to what's happening.
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  Speaker 8: So basically everything on this side of it's all the
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  Speaker 8: geese have left the islands. Like even the sound of
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  Speaker 8: the gucinator, like we can't we hear a different pitch
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  Speaker 8: than the geese actually do, and the sound of the
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  Speaker 8: gucinator itself is actually very terrifying to them. Like different colors.
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  Speaker 8: They actually see more colors than us too. And the
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  Speaker 8: whole design of it is meant their characteristics as dislike
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  Speaker 8: on the website that quotes Cornell University did this study
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  Speaker 8: that characteristics and traits that like, and that's basically but
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  Speaker 8: design off. The big the eyes, the slickers, the colored
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  Speaker 8: orange and the reflective color itself, these are all things
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  Speaker 8: that don't like to see.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's uh, that's enough to scare me off to you.
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  Speaker 1: Can we see that thing at top speed? Nelson? Can
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  Speaker 1: you can you ramp it up for us?
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  Speaker 5: Give her a rip, I'll go out and then I'll
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  Speaker 5: bring it back.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're not.
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  Speaker 2: Tailing.
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  Speaker 1: Very impressive. Oh yeah, wow, what a beast. You are
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  Speaker 1: not welcome in the city of Lethbridge.
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  Speaker 5: All right.
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  Speaker 1: That was That was a real treat. Aaron and Nelson,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for joining us, and good luck, good luck with
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  Speaker 1: the goose hazing program. We're cheering for you, guys.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you, thanks for having us. You fun little fact
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  Speaker 2: about Randall okay, which makes me a real advocate for
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  Speaker 2: their cause. When I was too young to even remember
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  Speaker 2: this incident, uh huh. I was at I believe, at
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  Speaker 2: the National Zoo in Washington, d C. I've been told,
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  Speaker 2: and a Canadian goose bit me on the foot and
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  Speaker 2: broke my toe.
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  Speaker 1: Broke your toe? You think the goose broke your toe?
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  Speaker 2: Like did your two baby little baby toes, Spencer, Like
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  Speaker 2: I said, they're tiny. That's what I'm told.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, bye?
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  Speaker 2: Who my parents?
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh.
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  Speaker 2: It's a It maybe explain some of my idiosyncrasies around birds.
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  Speaker 2: Uh huh, if I get into the dark recesses of
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  Speaker 2: my mind.
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  Speaker 1: They needed a goucinator.
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  Speaker 9: I know.
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  Speaker 2: So I appreciate that. Trying to avoid goose public conflict.
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  Speaker 1: M all right, moving on. Our next segment is one
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  Speaker 1: Minute Fishing. Do I feel lucky?
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  Speaker 2: Will do you? Punk? Go ahead make my cast.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: One Minute Fishing is where we go live to someone
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  Speaker 1: who's fishing and they have one minute to catch a fish,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: and if they're successful, we'll make a five hundred dollars
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: donation to a conservation group. This week, our angler is
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: American legend and one Minute Fishing Legend Pat Dirkin in
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  Speaker 1: Wisconsin and he's fishing for a donation to the clear
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  Speaker 1: Water Chapter of Trout Unlimited. Pat.
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  Speaker 10: Welcome to the show, Hey Spencer, Thanks for having me on.
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  Speaker 1: Pat was very motivated to make this work for us today.
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  Speaker 1: He was scouting some fishing spots earlier this week and
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  Speaker 1: if the weather had been a little colder, he'd be
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  Speaker 1: standing on ice right now, but instead it's warmed up
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  Speaker 1: and he's sitting in a boat. Yeah, Pat, tell us
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  Speaker 1: about the boat that you're in.
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  Speaker 11: Pat, this is my It's a fourteen foot three inch
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  Speaker 11: cedar strip rowboat.
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  Speaker 10: I built.
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  Speaker 11: I lost it nineteen years ago in June. It took
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  Speaker 11: me about two and a half years to built and
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  Speaker 11: to spend my pride and joy ever since. And as
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  Speaker 11: I've written about in my newspaper College Spencer.
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  Speaker 10: I always advise young men we meet women, this is
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  Speaker 10: what I need.
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  Speaker 11: Is a boat, a rowboat, that cedar strip rowboat. Not
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  Speaker 11: just any boat. You got to have a cedar stripper.
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  Speaker 11: Because I pulled this boat into a gas station, into
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  Speaker 11: a fast food restaurant, whatever it is, and women always
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  Speaker 11: walk over and talk to me.
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  Speaker 10: That's truly a chick magnet.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, what about men? Do they show interest in the
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  Speaker 1: boat as well? Say, say your your female seeking male companionship.
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  Speaker 1: Would it do the same.
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  Speaker 10: Thing' that's a great question.
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  Speaker 11: Distinction I've noticed is that it's it primarily attracts old guys.
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  Speaker 11: Yeah so, so my wife likes it because when I
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  Speaker 11: leave here at the pier to hold on the boat
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  Speaker 11: while go get the truck, all the old guys come
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  Speaker 11: over and they it gives them the pretense of talk
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  Speaker 11: never so.
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  Speaker 10: But it's not. It's really uh.
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  Speaker 11: I built it for musky roll trolling, and then I
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  Speaker 11: found that I'm not really much much of a musky fishman,
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  Speaker 11: because you know, it's the guilt trip you if you
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  Speaker 11: eat one. So I pretty much turned into a pan
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  Speaker 11: fishing machine.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, cool. Now this is the maiden voyage of your
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  Speaker 1: boat in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 10: Correct, correct, correct, Yeah, it's first time on the water
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  Speaker 10: this year.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, And how's the fishing band today? So far?
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  Speaker 10: Been pretty lowsy?
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  Speaker 11: I you know, I'm blaming mother nature because, like you
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  Speaker 11: said in the intro, I wanted to be up on
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  Speaker 11: on Lake Altuna, which is north of me a little
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  Speaker 11: ways where the perch are biting, just on Sunday for me.
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  Speaker 11: And I was all gassed up about, you know, keeping
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  Speaker 11: my string intact for two straight appearances, you know, on
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  Speaker 11: on women at fishing and catching a fish. And then
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  Speaker 11: it's gotten so warm since and I didn't want a hazard,
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  Speaker 11: take the risk of going out there and punching through
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  Speaker 11: and dying prematurely, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, So, Pat, this is like Major League Baseball. If
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  Speaker 2: you're batting five hundred, you're ahead of the game, So
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  Speaker 2: don't worry about that, yes sir, All right, Pat?
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  Speaker 1: So what are we What are we fishing for today?
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  Speaker 10: Okay? Well, the goal was to come out here.
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  Speaker 11: I'm a little bit early for the river, but usually
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  Speaker 11: this is a good section of river I'm on for
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  Speaker 11: for perch when they start spawning and use a mid
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  Speaker 11: to late march. They will pretty be pretty thick in
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  Speaker 11: this river, the Chippleware River that I'm on. And also
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  Speaker 11: you'll catch walleyes in here, and some guys. It's really
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  Speaker 11: a good fishery for a small wolf pass, but I
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  Speaker 11: primarily come here for.
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  Speaker 10: For perch and walleye.
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  Speaker 11: So okay, I'm trying it, and I have some guys
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  Speaker 11: downing down the river for me a lot ways. They
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  Speaker 11: pulled a couple of fish in, but I can't quite
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  Speaker 11: figure out what they're fishing for.
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  Speaker 1: And it looks like you're jigging this afternoon.
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  Speaker 10: Correct, I've got I got one line.
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  Speaker 11: This is Wisconsin, So everyone who's going to play the
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  Speaker 11: game warden on me. You can you can use three
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  Speaker 11: lines in Wisconsin. So I got one out with a
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  Speaker 11: crappie minow birch minow on. I got one with a
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  Speaker 11: bigger walleye shine around, and I'm casting a little little
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  Speaker 11: crank bait, a little rapala. So I figured i'd use
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  Speaker 11: for for my one minute attempt here.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, everything but the kitchen sink pad is using today.
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  Speaker 1: All right, pat, You're one minute of fishing starts as
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  Speaker 1: soon as you make that first cast.
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  Speaker 10: All right, here we go.
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  Speaker 11: Get them past casting out into casting out into the
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  Speaker 11: stronger current and bringing him back along the little a
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  Speaker 11: little more unprotected water. Okay, and this particular ex rap I.
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  Speaker 10: Think it is. I'll give you a little twitter right
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  Speaker 10: now and then. And I've taught everything.
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  Speaker 11: From big crappies, the big perch on, but mainly walleyes.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you are twenty five seconds into your one minute,
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  Speaker 1: right is Is this the same rod that you used
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  Speaker 1: in Idaho to be the first successful angler of one
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  Speaker 1: minute fishing?
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  Speaker 10: Right? It is?
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  Speaker 7: It is?
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  Speaker 10: That's why, that's why it's in my in my hand
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  Speaker 10: right now.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, you got twenty seconds to go. Pat got some
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  Speaker 1: good mojo with that rod.
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  Speaker 2: Well, this suspense is killing me.
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  Speaker 3: I know we had we had a great video with
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  Speaker 3: Pat right before he started he cast, and now it's
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  Speaker 3: a little little spotty.
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  Speaker 1: It's gott gotten bad five seconds, Pat, Okay, crank it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it did not happened today for Pat. But you know
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  Speaker 1: what they say, Pat, A bad day of fishing is
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: better than a good day of being a freelance writer
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  Speaker 1: in Wisconsin, Isn't that right?
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  Speaker 10: But that's my purpose?
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  Speaker 11: Though, you know I heard this morning specer that you
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  Speaker 11: know I'm almost I'll be seventy years old in January,
• 22:21
  Speaker 11: and I heard this morning that Andy Rooney in the
• 22:25
  Speaker 11: Great sixty Minutes commentator and journalist, he lived into his
• 22:30
  Speaker 11: late eighties early nineties, and he lost his job, and
• 22:36
  Speaker 11: a week later he died, lost his basically lost his
• 22:39
  Speaker 11: purpose and he was gone.
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  Speaker 10: So I figured I keep working a while.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't quite right.
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  Speaker 2: Keep those fingers spry. Pat.
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  Speaker 1: A beautiful boat though, that he's sitting in. I think
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  Speaker 1: we'll see that boat again on one minute fishing. Thanks
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  Speaker 1: for joining us, Pat, happy to.
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  Speaker 2: Say, Pat, thank you. Take care of Pat.
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  Speaker 4: You guys, sounded like he needed that goucinator back there.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's still like waterfowl over the top of them.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Today, boys, we have our third guest coming up later.
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  Speaker 1: He's gonna talk to us about some rare guns from
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: the Rock Island auction. If we hear geese in his background,
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: we really got problems at that point. Yeah, that'd be weird.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Phil, Let's take a break for some listener feedback.
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  Speaker 1: What's the chat have to say?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, just a reminder. If you guys have questions for
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: the crew, go ahead and submit him now. We'll hit
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: him in the next few minutes and at the very
• 23:24
  Speaker 3: end of the show. So anything for Corey Randall or Spencer.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: But first off, some behind the scenes questions from Brady.
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: He asks was trivia Was the Trivia Tournament actually filmed
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  Speaker 3: in multiple segments or in one sitting?
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  Speaker 1: So the Trivia Tournament it was three episodes. We filmed
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: two of those episodes in one day, back to back,
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  Speaker 1: so we knocked those episodes out in about a two
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  Speaker 1: hour window, and then one week later we filmed episode three.
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  Speaker 1: So there you go, Brady, that's your behind the scenes look.
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  Speaker 1: We tried to record it in twenty twenty four because
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it's the twenty twenty four championship, but Steve skied schedule
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: with filming his History Channel show just didn't really allow that,
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  Speaker 1: so we had to wait until now and then I
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: think this summer we're gonna have a Jabroni tournament coming
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  Speaker 1: for all those folks who didn't qualify for the big leagues.
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  Speaker 2: And I would like to apologize. I saw someone in
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: the chat hadn't listened to the final episode yet, so
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: we should have maybe added a spoiler alert. Although if
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: you were paying attention to scoreboard at the end of
• 24:23
  Speaker 2: episode two, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, let's say this. There's there is something fun that
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: happens in that episode anyway, so you should go listen
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: to Yes, Yes, we have some very competitive scores that happened.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: What else you got, Phil?
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Well, on that note, we're getting a lot of requests
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: for a honkin for a Bonkan X Randomle t shirt
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: our two most requested t shirts recently.
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: So I don't have my face on the goose though your.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Face on a goose maybe maybe being chased by a
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: goosenador as well. Oh broke in to throw it all
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  Speaker 3: in and.
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: Explain, and my origin story will be captured in the art.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that reminds me lay And we had somebody write
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: into Mediater Trivia saying that they and their buddy have
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: a competition and the loser of their year long tournament
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: a Mediatter Trivia has to get a tattoo of our choosing.
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  Speaker 1: I think we offered a few suggestions, and then a
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: lot of people wrote in afterwards saying we missed the
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: obvious one of getting the tattoo of honking for a
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: bonkin that appeared on a previous episode of Media to
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Radio for a tattoo that someone ended up regretting but
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: I think they gave that person words of encouragement.
• 25:30
  Speaker 2: They should. I hope they no longer regret that tattoo.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: It's a good tattoo. So if that person is listening
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: right now who lost their trivia championship with their buddy,
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  Speaker 1: they ought to get the honkin for a bon goose tattoo.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: To piggyback on some more trivia stuff, John has a comment.
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: He says, in regards to the Dermefted incident, I think
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: incorrectly spelled answers in trivia should only be counted as
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: correct if they can be reasonably pronounced correctly. And I
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: agree with John, which is why I was against Steve
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  Speaker 3: getting that's the part point.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, here's John articulated it rather clearly. Here in the
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: back of my mind, I had some sort of animal
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: instinct to reject Steve's answer, but John really hit the
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  Speaker 2: nail on the head.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, here's the deal, John, It's it's very hard for
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: seven people to argue with their boss who's right and
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: who's wrong. So sometimes we just lose that argument in
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: that case, and that that means that in other cases,
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: Randall doesn't get credit for putting crystalis instead of chrysalis,
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: even though you know the logic should have been applied
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: there as well. So sorry, apologized to you Randall for
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: months ago when you gave that answer.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and did you go back and look at whether
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: that would have affected the outcome of the game. I
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: believe I would have tied it.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: I don't think I'm going to anything else, Phil.
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: Aaron got turkey season coming up, Aaron says. He says,
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: I turkey hunt solo a lot. How do y'all usually
• 26:48
  Speaker 3: spend the back half of your day in a hunt
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: till noon state?
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: Well, Aarin, my great flaw with turkey hunting and with
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: shed hunting is that it always devolves into two other things,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: and that is mushroom hunting or rock hunting. So Aaron,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: keep your eyes on the ground, look for cool rocks,
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: look for mushrooms that are if you hunt in a
• 27:10
  Speaker 1: if you're in a hunt till noonstate, and I feel
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: like those are mostly in the South, is like Kentucky
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: or Tennessee. Someone to write in. I'm sure you've probably
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: got mushrooms popping up here very soon, So get yourself
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: educated on what edible mushrooms you can eat, and then
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: go look for those things. How about you boys, any
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: any suggestions for what Aaron should do after the turkey
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: hunting season ends for him at noon o'clock each day.
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: Man, around here, we're hunting turkeys from sun up till sundown,
• 27:34
  Speaker 4: so I'm trying to think.
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: Put myself in your shoes. I'd probably go fishing.
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  Speaker 2: Or if you're in a state that has an open
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: black bear season, you can cruise the roads, do a
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: little glassing up high look for bruin.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: Or take a nap, or take a nice afternoon nap.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: Yep aps are good.
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: Lance suggested putting a GoPro on the goosinator. That's a
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: great idea. And also our guy Mogor, apparently Daylight Savings
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: works differently and Hungry he missed the beginning of the show,
• 28:02
  Speaker 3: but we're glad to hear both, honestly. Yeah, when the
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: timer was happening, I was looking in the chat as
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: usually our guys in there saying hi, and he wasn't
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: in there, And I'm glad to see that he didn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: miss that.
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  Speaker 2: I hope I didn't screw up my Hungry time last
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: week when I announced it. That would be embarrassing.
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  Speaker 1: Mogor, you're gonna have to go back and listen because
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: we talked about you again this week and how Randall's
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: shot out to your time zone. He's going to inspire
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: a new little bit immediate least. I don't know about
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: the other hosts.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: I'll do one one more fluffy one, but we'll hit
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: more of these at the end of the show, so
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: keep the questions coming in question for Phil, what are
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: the odds you implement your harmonica into one of the jingles?
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: Pretty low because the jingles are usually just, you know,
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: rip off parodies of pop songs and stuff. But I
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: did play harmonica for the theme song I wrote for
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: the Meat Eater Kids podcast. So if he wants some
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: more harmonica action, you need.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: To just do like some piano man that has a
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: strong harmonica in it. Anything with Blues Travelers has a
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: lot of harmonica.
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: Oh, I'm just as good as that guy, John Popper.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: He's got his bandoliers of harmonica.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: The hook always brings me back.
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: I'm with you. I think gen Z just discovered the
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: Blues Traveler.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Is that a thing?
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: Is he big on TikTok now?
• 29:14
  Speaker 2: Or I say it's just blues Traveler.
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Blues Traveler more than one of them. So anyway,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: gen Z has just discovered them. The specific clip of
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: him doing the is it the the harmonica solo in
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: hook that is quite popular? Right now? Wow, people are thrilled.
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: That's it exists? All right? Moving on, our next segment
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: is the price is right?
• 29:41
  Speaker 3: Let's move over to my thing here, sorry, Spencer. Here
• 29:44
  Speaker 3: it comes from Bozeman, Montana Media Radio's most exciting ten minutes.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: It's the prices right, yes, Cory Culkins come on now,
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: Randall Williams.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: Come on the.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: Next what's your contestants on meeting to radios? The price
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  Speaker 3: is right? Now here's your host, Spencer new huh, thank you.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: Phil, thank you, Cory's third appearance all your price is right,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and Randall's first appearance here. All right, this game is
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: really simple. Phil is going to tell you about a
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: product from the meat Eater universe, and you need to
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: guess its price. The player with the closest answer without
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: going over will be declared the winner. If both players
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: go over, then you'll both be told to try again,
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: and the chat should play along as well, because whoever
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: has the closest answer we'll get a shout out from Phil.
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: All right, there are three products for today's show. Phil
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: tell us about the first item up forbid.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: How about we start today's show by giving you your
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: very own Big Buck Hunter reloaded arcade game. Do you
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: want to live like a bachelor? Do you love slugging
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: beers and shooting deers? Here's your name, Randall Williams. Well,
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  Speaker 3: we've got just the thing for you. The Big Buck
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  Speaker 3: Hunter Reloaded arcade game comes with forty two inch monitor
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  Speaker 3: in two toy rifles, and if you get tired of
• 31:04
  Speaker 3: gunning down booner white tails, just turn on one of
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: the other seven thrilling games, such as The Walking Dead,
• 31:09
  Speaker 3: Duck Dynasty, or Terminator Salvation.
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  Speaker 1: There's also thirty three mini games and eleven huntable animals,
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  Speaker 1: including a zombie deer mission called Dough of the Dead.
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: All right, Randall and Corey, what does that bar worthy
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: arcade game cost?
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  Speaker 7: And?
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: Sorry, is this used or is this new? This is
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: brand new. I'm not going to tell you the website,
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: but this is a brand new Big Buck Hunter reloaded
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: arcade game. Phil is showing us a few screenshots from
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: the game, as well as that arcade game itself.
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Without going over Randall.
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: Phil describe the graphics you're looking at here?
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  Speaker 3: Oh sure, yeah, for the audio listeners. We've got some
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: deer with some real thick antlers frolicking around a farmhouse here,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: but they are completely eaten up by some sort of
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: zombie parasite. They've got some green slim all over their ribcage,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: you know, their their jaws are torn apart, you know.
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: Picture of zombie deer. That's what we're looking at here.
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: So that's one to be Why are arcade game graphics
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: always like fifteen years behind the rest of video game graphics?
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: And if you showed me this screenshot, which you can
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: see on our YouTube channel, I'd be like, yeah, that's
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: from two thousand and four.
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: Well, arcade games need to they're in a cabinet that
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: needs it's hot, it needs to be running, you know,
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: not twenty four to seven, but in some cases, yeah,
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: twenty four seven. So they can't use two intensive CPUs
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: or graphics cards that would so they they're a little
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: bit behind the times, but that keeps them running for longer.
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: Sure, So a forty two inch monitor, it has two rifles,
• 32:43
  Speaker 1: seven thrilling games, thirty three mini games, eleven huntable animals.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: This isn't your Dad's Big buck Hunter arcade game.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: God, I want one so bad in my house. Yeah.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: Well they make a mini one now, which is what
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: I do. Yeah, so you can.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: This isn't that.
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: My buddy's got one in his basement. That one is
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: actually quite affordable. Okay, this one though, it doesn't shoot
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: like the real thing. Yeah, this is one you'd see
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: in your favorite bar. Sydney and I used to go
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: play buck Hunter on our anniversary every year.
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: Wow, and you quit doing that?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: They sold that buck Hunter machine?
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: Okay, I bet we could find another one.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: We used to go to the bar where we met
• 33:17
  Speaker 2: in Missoula and play it.
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: There's also a great buck Hunter machine there used to
• 33:21
  Speaker 2: be one of the cannery. There's a great one at
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: a laundromat in Whitefish.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I used to play that when we were up
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: in Whitefish. It's it's really part of our journey, my
• 33:34
  Speaker 2: wife and I. It's part of our story.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: Do both of you have an answer price of the
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: Big buck Hunter reloaded arcade game? Go ahead and reveal
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: your answers. You have Randalls saying coward five thousand, six
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: hundred and ninety nine dollars and ninety nine cents, and
• 33:53
  Speaker 1: we have Corey going low. He says six hundred and
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: one dollars.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Hate the player, not the game, coward.
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: The correct answer is six thousand, four hundred ninety five dollars,
• 34:03
  Speaker 1: giving Randal the first point. He was only nine hundred
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: dollars off the correct answer.
• 34:08
  Speaker 3: If we had Big Dough in the chat, who gets
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: sixty four hundred very close?
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Tell yeah, Big Dough.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Golly.
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: Now the mini one that Randal is saying his buddy
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: has that one's like six hundred dollars, maybe you were
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: right on thought, and they sell that one at like
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: best Buy, Yeah, Walmart and fun. Yeah, this this was
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: the real deal, way off, all right, Phil tell us
• 34:32
  Speaker 1: about the second item up.
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: Forbid, Well, if you like shooting thousands of virtual deer,
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: then you'd probably love an autographed copy of Ted Nugen's
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: book God, Guns and Rock and Roll. The whack Master
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: himself signed hundreds of items that he's selling on his website.
• 34:47
  Speaker 3: Besides his memoir, there's also autographed cookbooks, posters, and hats,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: including a chic Camo cap that says elect that mother
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: effor again. Ted calls it the super Gonzo Sorry hold on,
• 34:57
  Speaker 3: Ted calls it quote because that's important. The super Gonzo
• 35:01
  Speaker 3: Mojo Voodoo America Freedom battlecry hat of all time. But hey,
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: feel free to choose your own nonsensical string of nouns, verbs,
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: and adjectives.
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: Well, I know what I'm getting filled for Christmas?
• 35:11
  Speaker 7: This?
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Randal and Corey. What does that autographed
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: book from Terrible Ted cost? This is straight from his website.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: He has I think four books for sale that have
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: his name on him.
• 35:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the only one I've read this. You know,
• 35:26
  Speaker 2: your kid, I read that. Yeah, I read that in
• 35:28
  Speaker 2: high school.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: You did. Yeah, you made it one of the New
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: York Times bestsellers, which it has that stampo Oh.
• 35:33
  Speaker 2: I think it was long out by the time I
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: read it.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Give us a review of God, Guns and Rock and Roll.
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: I don't remember much about it, I'll be honest with you,
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: but I did own that. I remember sitting there on
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: the that's sitting on my bookshelf.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: It's a pretty book, pretty looking book. And he sells
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: hundreds of things on his website that are autographed by him.
• 35:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just I mean, my gut tells me that
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: he val use his own signature rather highly. I know
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: that's what I'm worried about too, but it's also a book.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: It is a book, but it's signed by the whack
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: Master himself.
• 36:10
  Speaker 2: Can we get a pub date on that film?
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: Unfortunately I don't have that in my script, but maybe
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: Spencer could We could look that up.
• 36:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, now, sorry, you're juggling too many things.
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: Back to item one though, the six four hundred and
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: ninety five dollars that was from hangout haven dot com.
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: If you want to make it online qubat compatible, you'll
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: need to fork over another forty dollars per month.
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: Figure, there's like people across the globe in big buck Hunter. Wow,
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: we're on.
• 36:36
  Speaker 3: It looks like it got August fourteenth, two thousand and
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: one for that publication.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: I could read that in high school. Maybe I was
• 36:42
  Speaker 2: one of the ones that one of the individuals.
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: Put it in the best. I'm surprised to hear that
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: that book looks like a post nine to eleven book,
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: not a pre I know he was time, he was
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: three weeks.
• 36:53
  Speaker 2: I don't think Ted's changed his tune much. Well, I
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: guess like since he you know, dodged the draft by
• 36:57
  Speaker 2: shooting his pants.
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: But you boys got an answer for the costs of
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: that autographic. Remember I think he said that in an
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: interview and then later denied it. Who knows? You boys? Ready, yep,
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: go ahead and reveal your answers. We have Randall saying
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: seventy nine ninety nine, big, we have Corey saying forty
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: nine ninety nine. The correct answer is lower than both
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: of them, So you will try again write down a
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: new answer. What was yours, Corey, forty nine ninety nine.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: You'd know that it's lower than fifty bucks. How's the
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: chat doing, Phil as anybody else?
• 37:38
  Speaker 3: Well, I don't want to give too much away that
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: we have. We've had a lot of people get it
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: right on the money, so I'm sure there are some
• 37:43
  Speaker 3: good guesses and saying some cheaters in there.
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: But all right, man, Randall and Corey, it's lower people
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: are cheating than I have no problem accusing them. Be
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: careful here, and both of you have an answer. Go
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: ahead and reveal your answers. We've got Corey saying thirty
• 37:59
  Speaker 1: four ninety nine, Oh boy, Randall saying twenty seven ninety nine.
• 38:02
  Speaker 2: Come on, uncle Ted.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: The correct answer is twenty nine ninety nine, giving Randall
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: the victory and the second point of the game. And
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: that is twenty dollars cheaper than his autographed hat that
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: says American shit kicker on it. So if if you're
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: looking to get Pat Dirkin his seventy seventieth birthday present
• 38:26
  Speaker 1: for about fifty bucks, two autograph pieces of ted nugient merch.
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: Phil tell us about the folks who got it right
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: on the nose.
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: I'm putting them up all on the screen here because
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: I don't there's a lot.
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: Of Mark Hodges.
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: Hello, get them all there we have, we have five
• 38:41
  Speaker 3: or six people, get it, get it right on the money.
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: There on you guys?
• 38:44
  Speaker 5: All right?
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: Phil tell us about the third item up forbid today.
• 38:47
  Speaker 3: Oh, surely just bring it up here and do that.
• 38:51
  Speaker 10: Do that?
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: And then I got you heck over here? Do you
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: do you like it when I narrate all the things
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: I'm doing. That's trying to yes, silent.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Let me guess what we're talking about here.
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: It's a yeah, actually rand, how about you guess? And
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: then I'll read the description.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: It's a four x six harbor freight tarp.
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: Our final light.
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: I'm up for bid today. Is a taxidermied whitetail doe
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: from Craigslist. Oh really, this full body mount portrays a
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: dead deer lying on its side. It doesn't sound too interesting. Well,
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: you'd be wrong. The New York City seller said the
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: white tail was used as a movie prop. When Spencer
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: reached out to ask what movie, the Craigslister wouldn't say,
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: but did reveal that the film will come out later
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: this year and stars an Oscar winning actress. Could it
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: be Jurassic Park, maybe Avatar or The Conjuring, or it
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: might be the seventh film and the Predator franchise. I
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: guess we'll never know.
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: That's right, Phil. Even when I begged the seller to
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: tell me and added pretty pretty pleased to my email,
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: they held firm and said legally they couldn't leak the
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: title of the film. All right, Mandolin Corey, what does
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: that full body white tailed dough mount cost? Beautifully done,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: piece of tax, very real. It's a white tailed doe
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: who looks like she's in her early summer coat. And
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: then it so, I think the bloat that you're seeing
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: there are her utters. This would be a deer that
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: died like right in the middle of May while she
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: had a little fawn under her belly.
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: Or it's been sitting on the side of the road
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: for twenty four hours.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: That's right, So what does that piece could be at
• 40:17
  Speaker 1: any cost?
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: Interesting?
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: Golly, I can't go out zero to three here.
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: It looks so good on the tarp.
• 40:25
  Speaker 4: I know, I know how much the tarp cast.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: I need our listeners to watch every film that comes
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: out this year that is starring an Oscar winning actress,
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: so we can figure out where this taxidermy dough is from.
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: If it's in the new Jurassic Park film, so I watch,
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: it'll be co starring with some FHF gear.
• 40:44
  Speaker 1: That's right, Scarjoe. She has an oscar, so I thought
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: it could be that. But when I watched the trailer,
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: it looks like it's taking place on a tropical island.
• 40:53
  Speaker 3: Carl Jansen has an oscar. She's been nominated multiple times.
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: She's never Okay, now we got it. Well, if that's
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: not the case, then we can eliminate Jurassic.
• 41:01
  Speaker 3: Part hershlaw Ali, I think is in that movie. He
• 41:03
  Speaker 3: does have an Oscar, but he is a man actress. Yes,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: oscar and actress. Do both of you have an answer
• 41:10
  Speaker 3: for what that taxidermied dead deer costs? I do go
• 41:15
  Speaker 3: ahead and reveal your answers. We have Cory saying carry
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: one hundred one dollars, Randall saying two thousand, four hundred
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: ninety nine dollars in ninety nine.
• 41:26
  Speaker 4: He's a Hollywood history to be Yeah, but they're just
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: trying to get rid of that thing.
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: The correct answer is four thousand, five hundred dollars, and
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: they said, if I pick it up by Sunday, they'll
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: give me a discount. Wow, maybe maybe you could make
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: twenty five hundred dollars. I'm going to be in New
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: York City next week. I could. I could genuinely bring
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: this thing home if we can solve where this movie
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: comes from.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: You got four grand burning a hole in your pocket?
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: I do not, But maybe this company whose airwaves ron
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: does offer him three hundred and one dollars Randall a
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: dominant victory coming off being the twenty twenty four Media
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: to Trivia champion, So we do now defending his title
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: is that that.
• 42:04
  Speaker 3: One goes out to all the randoms in the chat
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: we had Kevin Guess ninety nine. But also, you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 3: I don't know what it says about me that I
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: don't trust anyone who gets it right on the money,
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: but especially with something like this. But Lance, guess nine
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: point fifty Lance, if you are a true to your word,
• 42:18
  Speaker 3: then I apologize.
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: Four thousand, five hundred dollars, though those are the closest
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: we had.
• 42:22
  Speaker 3: Oh sorry, I'm looking.
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: We're life. That's okay, I'm looking at.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: Last episode's price of a taxidermy or you know the camouflage.
• 42:34
  Speaker 3: I'm looking at the wrong price.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: That's okay. Five hundred dollars, five hundred dollars. You were
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: close in the chat on.
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: You Big Dough put a winkie face. We know what
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: he's about. He got it right off the Big Dough
• 42:47
  Speaker 3: the dirty dog.
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: So if you live in New York City, that taxidermy
• 42:51
  Speaker 1: doe could be yours. And uh, like Randalls said, it's
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: a piece of Hollywood history.
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: Maybe it's Big Dough pushing his own product.
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: The chat you just flat outset see this, this is
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: what I'm talking about.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: Well know who to watch next time when we're playing Randall?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: Now the championship price is right and me Dieter trivia.
• 43:15
  Speaker 1: All right, let's move on to our last interview for
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: the day. Joining us on the line next is Joel
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: Colander from Rock Island, auction and he's here to show
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: us some legendary guns that are coming up for sale. Joel,
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.
• 43:30
  Speaker 5: Gentlemen, afternoon. Always a pleasure going to be back.
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: All right, Joel h he's a recurring guest. But real
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: quick remind folks of what Rock Island Auction is.
• 43:39
  Speaker 9: Sure, we're the number one auction house in the world
• 43:42
  Speaker 9: for fine and historic collector firearms. Of course we're known
• 43:46
  Speaker 9: for six and seven figure of firearms. Those are the
• 43:49
  Speaker 9: ones that catch the headlines, but absolutely catering to collectors,
• 43:52
  Speaker 9: users of all budgets, all levels of expertise, everything. If
• 43:57
  Speaker 9: there's something you're looking for, it's not a question of
• 44:00
  Speaker 9: of if we'll get it, it's usually just when.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Now, before we get to today's guns, I want to
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: ask you some questions about Rock Island. What's the oldest
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: gun you've ever sold?
• 44:10
  Speaker 9: The oldest that I've seen since I've been here, and
• 44:12
  Speaker 9: that's just about twelve years are actual hand cannons, So
• 44:17
  Speaker 9: before there's you know, triggers and firing mechanisms, you literally
• 44:20
  Speaker 9: have a cannon you hold in your hand with a
• 44:21
  Speaker 9: touch hole and you're and you're firing it off.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: So how old are we.
• 44:26
  Speaker 9: Talking, oh, fourteen hundreds in earlier? Wow, gun powder dating
• 44:33
  Speaker 9: back to you know what, some people's in the earliest
• 44:36
  Speaker 9: between like eleventh century at the earliest. So in between
• 44:39
  Speaker 9: that area and there's a lot of you know, of
• 44:41
  Speaker 9: course development in that time.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: And what part of the world would that gun come.
• 44:44
  Speaker 9: From, Asia, Japan, China of course gunpowder you know developing
• 44:52
  Speaker 9: in China, so whole lot of that section of the
• 44:54
  Speaker 9: world will have that. The earliest gun that we've sold
• 44:57
  Speaker 9: of significance comes from about sixteen ten sixteen twenty, so
• 45:01
  Speaker 9: you're looking right around the time the King James Bible
• 45:04
  Speaker 9: is introduced, and that was a wheel lock that belong
• 45:07
  Speaker 9: to Louis the thirteenth.
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: Now, what's the most famous gun that you've ever sold?
• 45:14
  Speaker 5: Oh, well, we brought it up in the last interview.
• 45:16
  Speaker 9: I'd have to say it's that Blastech Deal forty four blaster.
• 45:21
  Speaker 9: It was a Han Solo's blaster from Star Wars episode four.
• 45:25
  Speaker 9: It was one of three ever made, and it came
• 45:27
  Speaker 9: to us, you know, from the owner of a batting
• 45:30
  Speaker 9: company from the actual prop house, had documentation from the
• 45:33
  Speaker 9: armor of the film.
• 45:34
  Speaker 5: So that one got some international press.
• 45:37
  Speaker 9: Also went for over a million dollars set a Guinness
• 45:39
  Speaker 9: World record actually for that, so that was definitely the
• 45:42
  Speaker 9: most I'd say the most famous one.
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: Now. I just finished reading a book about art thieves
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: and a lot of these crimes happen at auction houses.
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: Have you guys ever dealt with any kind of an
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: attempted heist?
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: Thankfully, No, we have had no problem with heist.
• 45:58
  Speaker 9: We take a security pretty seriously at our locations, though
• 46:02
  Speaker 9: we have had guns that have been involved in heists.
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: We've had a revolver that actually a Colt.
• 46:09
  Speaker 9: It was a fit Special and not a factory fit
• 46:11
  Speaker 9: special one that he had modified from Clyde Barrow from
• 46:15
  Speaker 9: the Barrel Gang Bonnie and Clyde. We've had a public
• 46:18
  Speaker 9: enemy number one who is at Floyd Hamilton. He was
• 46:22
  Speaker 9: a part of our gang. He helped in the in
• 46:24
  Speaker 9: the Big Bust when they broke four people out.
• 46:26
  Speaker 5: Of jail, Pretty boy Floyd.
• 46:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, well no, that's a that's a different with with
• 46:31
  Speaker 9: Floyd Hamilton part of the Barrel Gang. We have had
• 46:35
  Speaker 9: a gun tied to pretty Boy Floyd in a separate,
• 46:37
  Speaker 9: separate Tommy Gun related story.
• 46:40
  Speaker 5: But the big one and I like Bob Dalton, you know, leader.
• 46:42
  Speaker 9: Of the Dalton Gang, and uh of course leads the
• 46:45
  Speaker 9: failed Coffee Bill raid. But before the raid they ordered
• 46:48
  Speaker 9: ten colts, fancy colts, pearl handled, engraved, case hardened like
• 46:53
  Speaker 9: beautiful guns. And they ordered these ten guns for the
• 46:55
  Speaker 9: gang to do this, you know, double bank robbery in
• 46:58
  Speaker 9: one day. And we have Privilegius sell on one of
• 47:01
  Speaker 9: those class amazing.
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: All right, now, the guns we're about to see will
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: be available at the Rock Island Auction happening May second
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: through May fourth. All right, Joel, what do you have
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: to show us?
• 47:12
  Speaker 9: Well, first and foremost brought something for the for the
• 47:15
  Speaker 9: mountain men, something for the long hunters. This would be
• 47:21
  Speaker 9: a hawk and rifle. Now, a lot of them it's
• 47:24
  Speaker 9: you know, quintessential American frontier sort of rifle. A lot
• 47:28
  Speaker 9: of them get the name of hawk and Rifle. This
• 47:30
  Speaker 9: one is actually made by Hawkin, Daniel Hawkin. They begin
• 47:36
  Speaker 9: producing guns around eighteen fifteen. We know this one gates
• 47:39
  Speaker 9: from about the eighteen fifties because Jacob Guyes Batamuel keeps
• 47:43
  Speaker 9: making guns and it's marked with his store in that
• 47:45
  Speaker 9: they founded in Saint Louis. But it just has his name,
• 47:48
  Speaker 9: So just a quintessential piece of America. This one's the
• 47:53
  Speaker 9: full stock. A lot of times the half stocks were
• 47:56
  Speaker 9: more popular despite being more expensive to produce, because they
• 48:00
  Speaker 9: were a little more labor intensive, So you don't see
• 48:02
  Speaker 9: the full stocks as often.
• 48:05
  Speaker 5: But boy, just just.
• 48:06
  Speaker 9: What a piece from that, you know, from the mountain
• 48:08
  Speaker 9: man era, from this fur trading era, whether you're a
• 48:10
  Speaker 9: pioneer explorer, et cetera.
• 48:13
  Speaker 5: What that might ring overwell with some of the fellers.
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think that gun is going to
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: sell for?
• 48:18
  Speaker 9: Well, we have an estimate, I believe on a genuine
• 48:20
  Speaker 9: Hawken sixty five to ninety five thousand.
• 48:23
  Speaker 7: Wow.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Okay, what's interested in that price?
• 48:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah? What's what's the bor on that?
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 48:30
  Speaker 9: Sorry, you know the apologies and Jeremiah Johnson, this one's
• 48:32
  Speaker 9: fifty four gallony.
• 48:33
  Speaker 2: Aah. Yeah, I was gonna say, I know a guy
• 48:36
  Speaker 2: who might be interested.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: And Randall, did that gun show all up show up
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: a lot in your coverage of mountain men?
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, the the Hawken is the gun that's
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: most commonly associated with that era, and it's obviously it's
• 48:49
  Speaker 2: like probably the most iconic firearms since the Kentucky long Rifle.
• 48:56
  Speaker 2: What what's interesting in our research is that there's a few,
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: like very high pro file individuals that had genuine Hawkins.
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: But you know Jazz, Jim Bridger, oh, what's his.
• 49:08
  Speaker 9: Name, Hugh Glass, Kit Carson famously of course.
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: Yep, and and but you know a lot of your
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: sort of day to day boots on the ground mountain
• 49:18
  Speaker 2: men were getting by with cheaper guns, you know, but
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: those those the Hawking is like the legendary piece from
• 49:26
  Speaker 2: that time.
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: All right, Joel, what gun do you have next for us?
• 49:31
  Speaker 9: Well, I know it's been something for the buffalo hunters
• 49:34
  Speaker 9: in the group. I had a Sharp's last time. This
• 49:37
  Speaker 9: one's got a couple special different tweaks to it's Sharp's
• 49:42
  Speaker 9: model eighteen seventy four business model. This one ship's actually
• 49:46
  Speaker 9: in eighteen seventy eight. So that prime like huge commercial
• 49:50
  Speaker 9: bison hunting era, you know out there in Montana and
• 49:53
  Speaker 9: big Sky country or territory. I guess I should say
• 49:57
  Speaker 9: this is one a very few shipped. Tech the president
• 50:01
  Speaker 9: of Sharps at the time, so it's a it's a
• 50:04
  Speaker 9: rare gun. There's all the business models like sixteen hundred made,
• 50:07
  Speaker 9: so it's a classic gun definitely associated with the with
• 50:10
  Speaker 9: the bison hunting at the time in the commercial hunting
• 50:13
  Speaker 9: rare one because of that ship to the president of
• 50:15
  Speaker 9: the company. But more than that, this gun has won
• 50:18
  Speaker 9: some awards because of the accessories that it comes with.
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: It has maintained all these years, not just as kind
• 50:26
  Speaker 9: of a rare and desirable firearm, but it comes with
• 50:28
  Speaker 9: the full sort of buffalo hunting kit. There's that rifles
• 50:32
  Speaker 9: case in a case entirely coded with bison fur. It
• 50:37
  Speaker 9: comes with the full skinning kit from the field. Oh wow,
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: in bison for and just like not every shape, every size.
• 50:47
  Speaker 9: There's things in here that I mean, I think look
• 50:49
  Speaker 9: like they're going to be for for woodworking. This was one,
• 50:52
  Speaker 9: but you know it's for sure these things can get
• 50:56
  Speaker 9: drawn and back to market.
• 50:59
  Speaker 1: Now what that makes that the business model? And like
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: what sets it apart from just a regular one of.
• 51:04
  Speaker 9: Those caliber configuration is so they're set with a I
• 51:10
  Speaker 9: think it's a twenty eight inch barrel round barrel, although
• 51:13
  Speaker 9: there are a lot of varieties seen during that time.
• 51:15
  Speaker 9: It's also produced during a pretty narrow window, so it's
• 51:19
  Speaker 9: it's I don't want to say it's a collector designation
• 51:21
  Speaker 9: because it was absolutely an original designation from Sharps for
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: how they chose to sell it, but basically a configuration
• 51:28
  Speaker 9: again aimed at sort of that big market you see,
• 51:30
  Speaker 9: where people wanted accurate guns, reliable guns that could put
• 51:34
  Speaker 9: a lot of firepower on big animals like an American bison.
• 51:37
  Speaker 1: And what do you think that gun is going to
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: sell for?
• 51:40
  Speaker 5: I have to write them all down.
• 51:41
  Speaker 9: That one we have estimated actually with all those like
• 51:44
  Speaker 9: original period accessories fifteen to twenty five thousand, okay, cheap.
• 51:50
  Speaker 5: Fors with some extra goodies.
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: No, I hate to be I hate to repeat my question, familiarer.
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: What's that one chambered in? Is that a fifty? Is
• 51:57
  Speaker 2: that the big fifty?
• 51:59
  Speaker 10: Oh?
• 51:59
  Speaker 2: It's a forty five? Gotcha?
• 52:01
  Speaker 9: Very great classic yep, and again shipped in eighteen seventy eight,
• 52:05
  Speaker 9: so it's right in that window.
• 52:07
  Speaker 1: Now are you working on the Buffalo Hide Hunter's book
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: right now?
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: Is this is yeah? Gun?
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Very famous in your research?
• 52:13
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. The Sharps. I mean again, like the Sharps.
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: If you associate one firearm with that era and that
• 52:19
  Speaker 2: particular hunt, it's the Sharps and legendary for shooting animals
• 52:24
  Speaker 2: at distance and putting a big wall up on them.
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: And what is the third gun you have with you today, Joel.
• 52:34
  Speaker 9: Well, third one is actually one that's gonna kind of
• 52:36
  Speaker 9: one of the headliners of the auction. This is a
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: Winchester eighteen model eighteen seventy three, one of one thousand
• 52:44
  Speaker 9: that was actually one of three made for the film
• 52:48
  Speaker 9: Winchester seventy three starring Jimmy Stewart.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: That's that gun is a piece of art. He is holding. Now,
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: how old is this gun? And what do you think
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: that'll sell for? Is it from eighteen seventy three?
• 53:01
  Speaker 5: Nope, So that's just a model designation.
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: There were some original one to one thousands made, like eighteen,
• 53:07
  Speaker 9: mostly from eighteen seventy five to eighteen ninety three. This
• 53:11
  Speaker 9: one was manufactured by the company some years later, specifically
• 53:15
  Speaker 9: to be proper for the movie. It's an original manufacturer
• 53:18
  Speaker 9: though right at the right at the turn of the century.
• 53:21
  Speaker 5: That's it.
• 53:21
  Speaker 9: It is because of its significance to gun collecting, I mean,
• 53:25
  Speaker 9: the movie, the campaign, the gun itself like changes fine
• 53:31
  Speaker 9: arms collecting in the United States forever. It's not like
• 53:33
  Speaker 9: the sole catalyst for it. But to say it's not
• 53:36
  Speaker 9: a major player would would be a mistake. This's see
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: what is the estimate on that's about three one hundred
• 53:42
  Speaker 9: seventy five to three hundred and twenty five thousand dollars.
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 53:46
  Speaker 9: Wow, So based up there right with you know, original
• 53:49
  Speaker 9: rare one of one thousand Winchesters like these holy grails,
• 53:53
  Speaker 9: these crown jewels of fine arms collecting. And here you
• 53:56
  Speaker 9: have the one that's that's on screen. You can look
• 53:57
  Speaker 9: at the buttstock. There's the plaque on the butt stock
• 54:01
  Speaker 9: that starts the whole movie, and actually this is that rifle.
• 54:05
  Speaker 9: There's you know, we have plenty of paperwork coming with
• 54:07
  Speaker 9: this to show that when that movie opens, this is
• 54:10
  Speaker 9: the rifle that you see.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Beautiful, that's amazing. Now, I'm not a huge lever gun guy.
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: I sort of know the origin story and the early models,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: and then I'm familiar with what's available to the shooter today.
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: But could you tell us a little bit about where
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: the seventy three fits in with sort of the development
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: of that technology.
• 54:35
  Speaker 5: Yeah. Absolutely, So.
• 54:36
  Speaker 9: Of course you have a lot of lever actions dating
• 54:40
  Speaker 9: to the mid nineteenth century. Of course, the most famous
• 54:43
  Speaker 9: one as the patents are bought up, is the Henry
• 54:45
  Speaker 9: rifle that's pre Winchester that's New Haven Arms during the
• 54:50
  Speaker 9: Civil War era eighteen sixty sixty five.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: Winchester of course buys these patents.
• 54:55
  Speaker 9: A little bit of a drama there with Benjamin Tyler
• 54:57
  Speaker 9: Henry starts his own company winch Oliver Winchester, a shirt
• 55:01
  Speaker 9: maker from New York, comes out with the Winchester sixty
• 55:04
  Speaker 9: six using a lot of those Benjamin Tyler Henry pattens.
• 55:08
  Speaker 9: His next rifle that he makes is the eighth is
• 55:12
  Speaker 9: the model eighteen seventy three.
• 55:14
  Speaker 1: And what do you mean, Joel By, what do you
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: mean when you say this gun changed gun collecting?
• 55:20
  Speaker 9: So the movie, I mean they're famous for being the
• 55:23
  Speaker 9: rare guns, you know, these holy grails. There's only of
• 55:26
  Speaker 9: the original Winchester one to one thousands. There's like one
• 55:29
  Speaker 9: hundred and thirty two ever made, and of course just
• 55:33
  Speaker 9: under half of those are known to exist today. They're
• 55:35
  Speaker 9: extremely rare, deluxe guns made for a narrow window of time.
• 55:39
  Speaker 9: People love these with the move and they're kind of
• 55:42
  Speaker 9: forgotten about. There's a period of time in the twenties
• 55:44
  Speaker 9: even into the forties where there's some curiosity about them
• 55:47
  Speaker 9: by known by people who know find a collector of firearms,
• 55:51
  Speaker 9: but they're not the famous guns.
• 55:53
  Speaker 5: That we know today.
• 55:54
  Speaker 9: Well, the movie comes out in nineteen fifty and when
• 55:57
  Speaker 9: the movie comes out, there's a huge publicity campaign and
• 56:01
  Speaker 9: this is done kind of headed by Steve Depperman, who
• 56:03
  Speaker 9: runs an agency in New York and he's a name
• 56:05
  Speaker 9: collector should know because his campaign is looking for the
• 56:10
  Speaker 9: original Winchester one on one thousands. They launched this huge campaign,
• 56:14
  Speaker 9: tens of thousands of posters, not even domestically but also internationally.
• 56:19
  Speaker 9: They're in gun stores, they're in Winchester dealerships looking for
• 56:23
  Speaker 9: Winchester one to one thousand rifles, and they don't want them.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: They're not taking them. They're like, we're just trying to
• 56:28
  Speaker 5: document them all and.
• 56:29
  Speaker 9: If you have one, if you have a Winchester eighteen
• 56:31
  Speaker 9: seventy three one to one thousand, we'll send you a
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: Winchester eighteen ninety.
• 56:35
  Speaker 5: Four deer rifle brand new.
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: A lot of people are submitting submitting these, But what
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: it really did, how it changed gun collecting, is it's
• 56:44
  Speaker 9: introducing people to the concept of rare and desirable firearms.
• 56:48
  Speaker 9: Gotcha that those firearms are worth money, that those are valuable.
• 56:53
  Speaker 9: It's teaching them how to identify them, and it's got
• 56:56
  Speaker 9: them like people actively searching for them, like it's for
• 56:59
  Speaker 9: quin essential gun collector behaviors, and it's just launching this
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: on a on a fairly unprecedented scale. And then we
• 57:08
  Speaker 9: call the fifties sort of this golden age of gun
• 57:10
  Speaker 9: collecting or of fine arms collecting. And it's largely due
• 57:13
  Speaker 9: to impart this massive influx of people who are now
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: looking for rare, desirable guns, of course, starting with the
• 57:19
  Speaker 9: Winchester eighteen seventy three one to one thousands. But you know, eventually,
• 57:23
  Speaker 9: you know, colt single action armies are being collected, civil
• 57:26
  Speaker 9: war arms, revolutionary war arms.
• 57:28
  Speaker 5: It's just it's it's varied, of course, is whatever people
• 57:30
  Speaker 5: have an interest in.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: And if Randall is interested in one of these guns,
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: how does he make a bid?
• 57:36
  Speaker 9: We of course you'd call us. We'll have the catalog
• 57:39
  Speaker 9: up probably early April or maybe late March. Here the
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: way we're moving, which is good news. You can hop
• 57:46
  Speaker 9: on the line. There's all the pictures, the full descriptions, calibers,
• 57:49
  Speaker 9: any other questions people might have, and it's as easy
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: as clicking on the website, but of course people want
• 57:54
  Speaker 9: to come do it in person. These are these big
• 57:56
  Speaker 9: auctions are premier auctions, they're live events. We built a
• 57:59
  Speaker 9: new facil oh just about year and a half ago
• 58:01
  Speaker 9: in Bedford, Texas and it is absolutely outstanding. So come
• 58:05
  Speaker 9: see him in person, put him in your hands before
• 58:07
  Speaker 9: you place a bid.
• 58:09
  Speaker 5: You can do that.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't try to make a heist because they're watching
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: you closely. All right, We're gonna check in with you
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: later this year to see what other cool guns you
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: have at the auction house. Already looking forward to that interview.
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Joel Deger, Thanks very much.
• 58:22
  Speaker 5: You have a real good one, you.
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: Too, all right. That brings us to the end of
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: this week's show. Phil, let's get some final feedback from
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: the chat.
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Steven asks Spencer any chance he'll be rock hounding
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: on your trip to Lake Superior. I would love to
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: see a colloud with agate Dad. I don't know who
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: agod Dad is, but I maybe I'm assuming you do,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: but I don't know if you do or not.
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: I do not know who Agadad is. I follow a
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: handful of rock hounding influencers, most of them in the West,
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: but yes, I do plan to rock hound on that trip.
• 58:53
  Speaker 1: I'd love to find a Superior ag. I have a few,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: but they're ones that I have traded for, so I
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: don't have any that I have myself found, which makes
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: them a little more special. So I'm going to attempt
• 59:03
  Speaker 1: to find one on that trip. I also have my
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: UV flashlight with me, and walking these shores of Lake
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: Superior is a great place to bust one of those
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: out to find some unique rocks. So I'm gonna try
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: to do it.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: Stephen.
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: Right on, I want to give a shout out to Sarah,
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: who didn't cheat and was the closest for that dear prop.
• 59:23
  Speaker 3: She gets twenty five hundred, which which I think was
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: the closest, even though I think the price was what
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: almost five forty people. People were really low balling that one. Truly,
• 59:35
  Speaker 3: you guys can get as deep into this as you
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: want to. But Jack's he says, I was inspired to
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: pursue a degree in range management by you all. Any
• 59:42
  Speaker 3: words of encouragement or advice for someone looking into this
• 59:45
  Speaker 3: career with the current political situation, what do you got, Randall.
• 59:51
  Speaker 2: Man, I would just say keep the faith. You know,
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: we're in a very strange moment right now, but there's
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 2: always going to be need for people to watch out
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 2: for our soils and our vegetation and all that habitat
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 2: out there. And yeah, I don't know that I would
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: make any rash decisions at the moment, as other rash
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: decisions are being made by the powers that be, So
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: keep the faith, Jack, and I appreciate your I appreciate
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: your chosen career path there.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 1: Jack, I went to school for biology, ecology, and evolution.
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: I'm not using that degree today. And if you don't
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: use your range management degree either, I don't think you
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: would regret going to college for that. You'll be exposed
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: to a lot of fun, interesting things that any outdoorsman
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: would like to know. So good luck, jack Well.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: Said Harrison asked question for the crew, what do you
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 3: think of Western states moving to having people purchase a
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 3: tag to shed hunt and should Montana follow suit?
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: Thanks? Well hereson, I would say I typically trust the
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: folks making those decisions. If they think you need a
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 1: tag to either track how many people are doing it
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 1: or to limit the amount of folks that are like
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: pushing around animals during a very vulnerable time, I'm okay
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: with it. I also don't know those tag prices, but
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: I assume it's less than thirty thirty bucks. As outdoorsmen,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: we spend a lot of dumb money on a lot
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: of dumb things. That thirty dollars tag, which is probably
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: on the expensive side of what these Western states are charging,
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 1: is money well spent. What do you guys think?
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's an activity that, when done I
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 2: guess carelessly, has a pretty significant impact on the resource.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: And I would support our wildlife managers having all the
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 2: information that they can to sort of understand better what
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: that impact is and what steps we can take to
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 2: make it more wildlife friendly because again, deer elk getting
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 2: pushed around when winter range is a serious source of mortality.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 1: And I think like shed hunting in the West is
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 1: probably more popular now than it's ever been.
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's one of those things like on a
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: limited basis it might not have a huge impact, but
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 2: as it's grown in popularity, it certainly is making its
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 2: it's you know, impact on the resource.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: Corey, when you were in your shed hunting heyday, would
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: you scoff at a thirty dollars license if you needed
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: to buy one to do that?
• 1:02:30
  Speaker 4: No, No, I wouldn't. I'd pay that in a heartbeat Yeah,
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: just I think along the lines of what you mentioned,
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 4: I think anything that becomes a little overcrowded or overpopular
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: has to be regulated somehow.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 2: And yeah, but I will say probably the worst defenders
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 2: are the guys that are going to go out and
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 2: not buy the tag, right Yeah. Yeah, people like the
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 2: people that are the people that are kind of renegade
• 1:02:52
  Speaker 2: shed hunters and like chasing down bowls and stuff. They're
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 2: probably not going to follow the rules. So it's a
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 2: double edged sword. I think always like supporting our agencies
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: and providing them with information and data is a good thing.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: I don't think they're out to get you when they
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: make you buy one of these licenses to go shut on,
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: So I just trust that they're doing it for the
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 1: good of the critters and the good of the resource.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 4: I don't think Montana's anywhere near having one, but I'm
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 4: sure at some point it will happen.
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 5: Bill.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 1: What else, yet, Let's.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 3: Do one more? This is probably the most important one.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: Kevin asks what new hair product is Randall using.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Oh, I believe it's called spit. Yeah, a little water
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: little comb. I did get a I don't even know
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 2: what you call it. It's like a little tub of stuff.
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: I think it's made by Old spice. But they have
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: like five different words for things you put in your hair.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 2: Now you know, there's gels, there's bombs. Yes, I don't know.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I had to do something. I had
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: to do something because otherwise it's just you know.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: Did we get an answer there as to what you're
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 1: putting in your hair old spice? Okay, there you go.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 3: All right.
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 1: That brings us to the end of the show. Thanks
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 1: for watching, Thanks for listening. We'll see you back here
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 1: in a week.