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Kabelo Mabalane says everybody needs somebody and he is here to tell us why? · Anele and the Club on 947

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  Speaker 1: Wake up with a bang.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, wake up!
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  Speaker 3: Anele and the club.
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  Speaker 1: On 947. How excited am I, Frankie?
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  Speaker 2: You are so excited for this morning.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, I don't think you understand how happy it makes
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  Speaker 3: me when I see Kabeloma Balan. It just makes my day.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what it is about him. I don't
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  Speaker 3: know what aura this man has. I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: cologne he's using. I don't know what that wife is
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  Speaker 3: feeding him in the morning, morning gale. I just, I'm
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  Speaker 3: just so excited.
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  Speaker 1: Hit it.
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  Speaker 3: It's my house.
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  Speaker 1: My name is Gabelo Mabalan. At the age of 19,
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  Speaker 1: I was a rock star.
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  Speaker 3: Make all the noise, you can't fight. TKV.
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  Speaker 4: TKZ, Kwaito, the Golden Heroes.
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  Speaker 3: He's a philanthropist, a comrades runner, he's a rapper. He's
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  Speaker 3: recorded eight of his own solo albums. Velo Mabelani's story
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  Speaker 3: was never just about the music. It's a story of
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  Speaker 3: rock bottom and recovery.
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  Speaker 1: You can't keep a good man down. It's a thing
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  Speaker 1: I work at seven, you probably make a.
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  Speaker 4: Seven because you can't keep a good man down.
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  Speaker 1: Who make a single but you will, you will, you will.
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  Speaker 3: I've practiced this for a very long time.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm hoping, because this is what people do to musicians,
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  Speaker 3: that you start something and they go along with you, né? Right.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, let's see this.
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  Speaker 1: She's hoping.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Uh-huh, uh-huh.
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  Speaker 3: Here I am.
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  Speaker 5: Boogie love coming with the fat jam. That cat that
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  Speaker 5: doesn't give a damn. But anyway, I figured this, that
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  Speaker 5: if you don't stop, then I won't quit. Keep trying
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  Speaker 5: to make money so life can be a pure bliss.
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  Speaker 5: Reminisce on days gone by, like we all know, only
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  Speaker 5: the strong survive. Don't be scared, just let each other fly.
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  Speaker 5: Just chill and see how we get by. And please
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  Speaker 5: don't get caught up in the mix. This world is
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  Speaker 5: full of dirty tricks. Add to that, never trust a trick.
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  Speaker 3: With God's blessing, nobody's going to take my place.
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  Speaker 1: Because damn, I just love this place. With God's blessing,
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  Speaker 1: nobody's going to take my place. I just love this place.
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  Speaker 2: Wow, wow, wow, wow.
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  Speaker 4: You know, moments like that, man. What this thing has
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  Speaker 4: become is.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just like befuddled baffled in terms of what this
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  Speaker 4: thing has become because when we were in studio just
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  Speaker 4: even listening back to the intro all these songs coming
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  Speaker 4: back you have no idea that it's going to accrue
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  Speaker 4: to a moment like this where I'm turning 50 this
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  Speaker 4: year and it's only now where I'm actually starting to
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  Speaker 4: take it in and go damn I did a lot
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  Speaker 4: we've done the things man.
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  Speaker 3: So I like that you say that you say what
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  Speaker 3: this thing has become what this thing has become what
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  Speaker 3: is this thing um.
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  Speaker 4: There's so much value there's a it's value it's contribution
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  Speaker 4: it's it's lots of hard work it's dedication you know
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  Speaker 4: um and to be able to be turning 50 this
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  Speaker 4: year and and still have the ability to harness it
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  Speaker 4: to go forward because it's it's it's mine i didn't
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  Speaker 4: build it alone you know there's you know there's no
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  Speaker 4: such thing as independence you know there's interdependence you know
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  Speaker 4: um There's so.
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  Speaker 1: Many people who've contributed, right?
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  Speaker 4: But I have the privilege of harnessing all of that
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  Speaker 4: now and moving forward and continuing to build.
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  Speaker 2: Because I have a question about that, right?
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  Speaker 6: Because when you start off on this thing, and do
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  Speaker 6: you ever start going 30 years from now?
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely not.
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  Speaker 2: There's never a thought.
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  Speaker 6: It's like, I want to be the biggest rock star
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  Speaker 6: in South Africa this year.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, this verse that we just spat now.
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  Speaker 5: Wrote.
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  Speaker 4: in 1998 by a very insecure don't know whether I'm
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  Speaker 4: coming or going young man who's on the verge of
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  Speaker 4: you know who was already like successful but I wasn't
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  Speaker 4: like I wasn't the person that I am now I'd
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  Speaker 4: love to believe I would love to believe I'm more
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  Speaker 4: whole now and when I think of that young man
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  Speaker 4: who wrote that verse I He had no idea.
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  Speaker 2: He didn't know anything.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing.
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  Speaker 3: But what does Insecure look like when... Because this was Halloween.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And Halloween is the best South African album. Not quite
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  Speaker 3: the album. Get me right when I say this to you.
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  Speaker 3: Halloween is the best South African album to come out
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  Speaker 3: of this country. From the first song to the last song,
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  Speaker 3: you guys.
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  Speaker 1: Had us gripped.
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  Speaker 3: I know VW sales for the Caravelle skyrocketed.
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  Speaker 1: Just because of it. Just because of TKZ.
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  Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: So what does insecure look... What are you insecure about?
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  Speaker 3: Are you insecure that it's going to end? Are you
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  Speaker 3: insecure that we're going to find you out, that you're
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  Speaker 3: not as talented as we are putting you out to be?
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  Speaker 3: What's the insecurity?
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  Speaker 4: So now, you know, that young man is surrounded by
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  Speaker 4: these two giants, right?
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  Speaker 3: Tukulo and Zwei.
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  Speaker 4: Tukulo on my left and Zwei on my right. Giants,
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  Speaker 4: you know, in my opinion, you know, and they could
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  Speaker 4: do no wrong. And I guess it's about... The desire
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  Speaker 4: to grow at that moment in time, you know, wanting
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  Speaker 4: to also contribute as much as they were contributing. And
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  Speaker 4: I kind of felt, you know, that I wasn't at
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  Speaker 4: the time, but the desire was there. And look, I
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  Speaker 4: feel when I look back, you know, even as a
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  Speaker 4: pastor now, counseling and talking to many like 20 year olds,
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  Speaker 4: I always tell them like, listen, you got to put
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  Speaker 4: your seatbelt on because.
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  Speaker 1: The 20s are rough.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: You still, you don't know who you are. You don't
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  Speaker 4: know whether you're coming or going. You've just fresh out
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  Speaker 4: of school. And then, you know, music was like, if
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  Speaker 4: music didn't work, I was toast. That's also the pressure.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, because you don't have a full plan. Yeah, because school,
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  Speaker 1: there's no school. My parents wanted me to go to.
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  Speaker 4: School and everything, but we were like, we doubled down.
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  Speaker 1: And did the music thing. So it's all those insecurities.
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  Speaker 1: Is this thing going to work? Is this thing going
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  Speaker 1: to last?
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  Speaker 3: How often are you questioning yourself? Because here's another thing,
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  Speaker 3: and most therapists will... we'll also maybe answer this. How
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  Speaker 3: often are you doubtful of yourself? Because how much work
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  Speaker 3: can you do if you're constantly doubting yourself? Or have
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  Speaker 3: you figured out a way to create a beast out
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  Speaker 3: of both sides, the diligent hard worker and the doubting Tom?
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  Speaker 4: So, yeah, I think naturally I'm wired to work really,
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  Speaker 4: really hard.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But I'm also a very competitive, like naturally, like there
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  Speaker 4: is this competitive drive in me And I think that's
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  Speaker 4: kind of what has quietened the doubting, so to speak,
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  Speaker 4: in that early part of my life.
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  Speaker 3: You've just explained so much about myself. Is that every
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  Speaker 3: time a doubt comes up, because I work so hard,
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  Speaker 3: I work myself into a place where I'm like, no, no.
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  Speaker 3: At the very least, there's work ethic here. If I
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  Speaker 3: doubt the talent or if I doubt how much I
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  Speaker 3: can put on the scoreboard, I can work myself towards quieting. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: thank you so much for that.
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  Speaker 6: But I've got a question about that, though, because, you know,
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  Speaker 6: like you said, you work hard, right? But have you
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  Speaker 6: ever been in a moment, because you've done so many
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  Speaker 6: different things across the last 35 years, right? Have you
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  Speaker 6: ever been in a moment where you're like, I'm working
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  Speaker 6: really hard at something, but I'm not sure it's the
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  Speaker 6: right thing to be working hard at? Because that's where
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  Speaker 6: the doubt creeps in for me.
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  Speaker 4: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: 100%.
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 4: As you say that, you know, there was a period where,
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  Speaker 4: you know, Danny and I started shout.
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  Speaker 5: Right.
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  Speaker 1: You know, and my friend had a dream. I believed
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  Speaker 1: in the dream. I said, let's do this thing.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: And then it became, I thought we were just doing
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  Speaker 1: one song.
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  Speaker 3: It became a movement.
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  Speaker 4: And we were just going to, you know, and then
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  Speaker 4: this thing started taking a lot of oxygen in the room.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And then you're like, I'm deviating.
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  Speaker 4: But it's also a good thing because we are and
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  Speaker 4: should be responsible citizens. And then you're like, is this
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  Speaker 4: the right thing? Should I be expending as much energy?
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  Speaker 4: Because it kept on taking and taking and taking. Well,
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  Speaker 4: that's the thing. But it was a good thing. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that's kind of how you reconcile everything and go,
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  Speaker 4: you know what?
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  Speaker 1: We're moving the needle.
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  Speaker 4: We've built 13 libraries across the country. I think we
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  Speaker 4: can pat ourselves on the back. So I think that
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  Speaker 4: circumvents everything. that doubt of whether you're doing the right thing.
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  Speaker 4: Is it helping other people? And those are kind of
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  Speaker 4: the things that you can look out for.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: But you can be really good at something that you
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  Speaker 4: shouldn't be doing. And I think it's important to always
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  Speaker 4: be doing the introspection.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I mean, that's your point.
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  Speaker 6: Does it fit what your pillars are for a human, right?
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  Speaker 3: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: Are you going down the right path?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: And not necessarily just generally as a human, you.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I think it's important to go, does this line up with,
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  Speaker 4: you know, me and what I believe in and my fundamentals.
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  Speaker 4: And I think if it does, it's cool. You know,
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  Speaker 4: I always say, for example, I use this principle, you know,
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  Speaker 4: there's no such thing. There's three things I believe that
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  Speaker 4: you'll never walk away from, you know, thinking you've.
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  Speaker 1: Wasted your time. It's time in the gym.
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  Speaker 4: Your time spent with God and your time with education.
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  Speaker 4: You can study the wrong thing, but you'll never walk
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  Speaker 4: away from it.
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  Speaker 1: It's not a waste. It's never going to be a waste.
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  Speaker 1: It's never going to be a waste. So again, let's
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  Speaker 1: say community work.
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  Speaker 4: Maybe it wasn't something you were meant to do, but
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  Speaker 4: you'll never walk away from there having felt less.
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  Speaker 1: Feeling less than.
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  Speaker 2: That's good.
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  Speaker 3: Before we go to Tempe Gile for headlines, I want
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  Speaker 3: to go back to that phrase they said, taking up.
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  Speaker 1: Oxygen in the room.
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  Speaker 3: For somebody who walked into a class and didn't know
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  Speaker 3: English and Miss Judith Lacey had to help him.
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  Speaker 1: How do you know Judith Lacey? Yeah, because you couldn't
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  Speaker 1: speak English. That's how I know. Because we need to
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  Speaker 1: know it.
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  Speaker 2: To blame.
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  Speaker 1: We need to.
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  Speaker 3: So, now, Miss Judith Lacey, wherever she is, I don't
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  Speaker 3: know if she's still alive, but.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
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  Speaker 3: She hears Gabelo on 947 saying, you're taking up.
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  Speaker 1: Oxygen in the room.
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  Speaker 3: She's like.
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  Speaker 1: She's like, hey.
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  Speaker 3: Job done. Job done. It's always so tricky when your
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  Speaker 3: friend releases a song, because now you must listen to it.
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  Speaker 3: And then you have to be honest.
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  Speaker 6: Because this is the first time we've heard it.
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  Speaker 1: We didn't hear it before.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, cool. So now you're just like, please be good.
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  Speaker 1: Please be good.
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  Speaker 3: Give this man a round of applause.
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  Speaker 2: No, give him a round of applause.
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  Speaker 6: I heard this being mixed into every summer party coming
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  Speaker 6: up in 2026.
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  Speaker 3: It's so joyful. It's so joyful.
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  Speaker 5: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: Quickly, before I tell you what I want to tell
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  Speaker 3: you about this song, thank you so much to gymstore.co.za.
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  Speaker 3: When we did Gabelo's intro, as a team, we always
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  Speaker 3: like to welcome people into the building in a way
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  Speaker 3: that speaks to them. So when we sat around the room,
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  Speaker 3: we're like, you know, what is this man about? He's
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  Speaker 3: about his wife. He's about his kids. He's about God.
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  Speaker 3: He's about Rema. He's about fitness. Okay, he's about music.
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  Speaker 3: He's about just being a good person. But fitness is
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  Speaker 3: the one that we thought we were going to go with.
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  Speaker 3: So we kitted out our entire foyer here with gym equipment.
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  Speaker 3: And it was one big High Rocks CrossFit class.
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  Speaker 1: I nearly did two burpees.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you.
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  Speaker 4: She didn't go all the way down, though, so I
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  Speaker 4: don't know if they qualify.
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  Speaker 2: I was going to say, it feels like he's throwing shade.
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  Speaker 2: He was like, two. There was only two burpees.
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  Speaker 3: I check. Either way, gymstore.co.za. They can kit out your gym.
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  Speaker 3: They can rent your gym equipment for your house. If
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  Speaker 3: you want to do a private gym at your house
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  Speaker 3: as well, they can help you. If you want to
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  Speaker 3: open your own gym, you don't have to buy the equipment.
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  Speaker 3: You can just rent from them and then they service it.
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  Speaker 3: They maintain it. They really are a good step up
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  Speaker 3: towards the fitness life.
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  Speaker 6: This stuff is really cool. I spent some time, me
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  Speaker 6: and Matt, flex on all the equipment here.
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  Speaker 2: It's very cool.
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  Speaker 3: Gymstore.co.za.
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  Speaker 1: Please play that song again.
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  Speaker 3: I want to speak underneath it because there's something I
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  Speaker 3: want to tell you about it. Um, Firstly, you did
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  Speaker 3: that song. The song is called Everybody Needs Somebody.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. Featuring the Arrows. Yes.
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  Speaker 3: I was a little nervous when I heard featuring the
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  Speaker 3: Arrows because I was like, oh, it's going to sound
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  Speaker 3: like Durban. You know, they're my Durban Caucasians, right?
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  Speaker 1: But they actually step.
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  Speaker 3: More to our side than you to their side.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 3: This reminds me of the good old days of you
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  Speaker 3: guys and WHP. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it does have a proper nostalgic vibe.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: I mean it does also borrow a little bit from
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  Speaker 4: there's like a 1980 bubblegum thing going on. There's also
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  Speaker 4: like a thing hidden in there. Yeah, just all around
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  Speaker 4: South African good vibes, man.
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  Speaker 1: And also true to me.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: You know, I think.
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  Speaker 3: It sounds like you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it sounds like me.
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  Speaker 3: You didn't try to do music that's popular right now. No.
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  Speaker 3: You did music that Gabelo is good at.
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  Speaker 1: 100%.
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  Speaker 4: And, you know, even with the pending album, I'm so,
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  Speaker 4: I'm proud. You know when you're proud of your work?
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  Speaker 4: And I can say that because there's work that I
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  Speaker 4: haven't been proud of.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: Like, for real.
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  Speaker 3: Give me one.
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  Speaker 1: I'd say anything I made between, you know, 2008 and 2015.
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  Speaker 4: I was kind of caught up in, you know, chasing
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  Speaker 4: trends and just trying to be I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Who, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm really grateful for the 11-year hiatus because, you know,
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  Speaker 4: obviously I got married, got kids and, you know, that.
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  Speaker 1: Kind of put the oxygen in the room.
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  Speaker 4: And in that 11 years I guess there was also
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  Speaker 4: like okay who are you as a musician because the
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  Speaker 4: gift is is it's always there yeah and it needs
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  Speaker 4: to express itself um but I knew that um when
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  Speaker 4: you if you express yourself from an inauthentic place again The.
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  Speaker 1: Music buying public is not... They're brutal. Yeah. And then
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  Speaker 1: you start to leave, not on your own terms.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: You get kicked out.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. They don't answer the calls anymore.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and then it's like, nah, you know.
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  Speaker 4: And then, you know, then I arrived at this moment
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  Speaker 4: where I'm like, I need to make music that actually
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  Speaker 4: is cognizant of who I am now.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a father... You know, I'm a husband, I'm a pastor,
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  Speaker 1: I'm a leader. I've grown, I'm 50.
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  Speaker 4: You know, I'm turning 50 this year. And I make
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  Speaker 4: music from there. And when it kind of dawned on
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  Speaker 4: me that that's kind of what I need to do,
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  Speaker 4: I really believe I've hit a rich vein of of creativity,
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  Speaker 4: and it's just pouring out.
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  Speaker 1: Of me right now.
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  Speaker 3: You can hear it.
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  Speaker 1: Listen.
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  Speaker 3: Frankie stated, I just imagine a summer party.
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  Speaker 1: We're by the pool.
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  Speaker 3: You can smell the voice.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 3: So tell me, the kid who's in the car playing
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  Speaker 3: a Frank Sinatra song for their dad.
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  Speaker 1: Yes. That kid, yeah.
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: You were that kid. Yes. Trying to impress your dad
• 15:04
  Speaker 3: with your music knowledge, right? Yes.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: Dad is not impressed.
• 15:07
  Speaker 3: He's like, okay, go to school.
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: I've been listening.
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: Or I've been playing Frank Sinatra. Like, what are you, like,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: trying to impress me with now?
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: If your kids are in the car and they want
• 15:17
  Speaker 3: to impress you with a song, what do they play you? Ooh. Um.
• 15:22
  Speaker 4: Zoe would play me, she loves this group called, and
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: actually there are some songs that I actually genuinely like. Right, right.
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: It's called, they got a song out called Gnarly. Okay.
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: It's Cat's Eye. Oh, we played that.
• 15:40
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Cat's Eye. And she played me this track, Gnarly, and
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: the track is sick.
• 15:45
  Speaker 5: Okay.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, it's sick. I love it.
• 15:47
  Speaker 4: And like the mom is like, oh my God, this song.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: And I generally, even as a muse, I'm like, that's
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: really a dope track. Yeah, it's dope, dope, dope.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 15:55
  Speaker 3: And you said something in one of the interviews that
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: The first album that TKZ did It flopped, right? And
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: then you guys went into the clubbing scene You went
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: into the party scene To create music like this That
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: moves us If this plays on a dance floor Hit
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: him with the shoulder Hit him with the shoulder Hit
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: him with the shoulder But now you're turning 50 Where
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: do you go to test this out? Because when you
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: were 18 It's easy for you to go to clubs
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: To see what people are liking But where do you
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: go here?
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: I surround myself with music. That's what's the cool thing
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: about music. I mean, even as I say that, I mean,
• 16:32
  Speaker 4: look at Oskiro.
• 16:33
  Speaker 1: I care. Think of Oskiro. Of course.
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: Oskiro doesn't change because he's always surrounded by that energy.
• 16:41
  Speaker 4: And I really believe how you capture the essence is
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: being surrounded by that energy. I have tons of young people.
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: on socials. Ekotman, you're such an inspiration. Can we send
• 16:51
  Speaker 4: you some music? So it's always coming. And then because,
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: you know, innately I am a muso and then, you know,
• 16:58
  Speaker 4: obviously then you kind of go, you also need to
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: understand your context in which you make music. and the
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: sources that you kind of that that inspire you you
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: know so that's how I how I keep in touch
• 17:09
  Speaker 4: to To be realistic about you know.
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: Where where.
• 17:15
  Speaker 4: I'm at The albums coming out I had made a
• 17:20
  Speaker 4: promise to the fans that the album was coming out
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: on the 14th of October which is next week however
• 17:27
  Speaker 4: I've decided to pause the album for a very, very
• 17:29
  Speaker 4: good reason. Because the 14th of October next week is
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: Tukulo Magesh Shabalala's 50th birthday. I've made a tribute song
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: on the album. It's called Magesh is Beethoven. And Magesh
• 17:42
  Speaker 4: is the Beethoven of our generation. I've made a tribute song.
• 17:47
  Speaker 4: The album will be available. People will see the songs.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: They will be.
• 17:50
  Speaker 4: Available on the 14th. But we're just dropping the Magesh
• 17:54
  Speaker 4: single next. on the 14th of October then the album
• 17:57
  Speaker 4: will come out on the 30th of October okay oh.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: My word are you doing 30th and not 31st because
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: 31st is Halloween and we would have been like I
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: actually didn't realize that now now I'm.
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: Like I'm just I've just clocked it now as they
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: say you know.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: Maybe let's do 31st. I don't know. What are you thinking?
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Well, anyway.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: 30th is a Friday. So Friday is when, you know,
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: it's the end of the week. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Friday.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: That's why I picked today. I didn't think.
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: Take that with.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Keep talking back. Yeah, keep talking back. Thank you. Thank you.
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: We're actually having a listening session next week. On the 13th.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Are you around?
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: I am around.
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: Yes, I am. Please come. Where is it?
• 18:44
  Speaker 4: Khabar, where is it again?
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: You guys will decide.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: It's at Bang & Olufsen. Bang & Olufsen is partnering
• 18:51
  Speaker 4: with us. We're actually at their warehouse.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Their team is... Don't say... Now 10,000 people are going
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: to rock up.
• 18:56
  Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: Eh, son. Okay.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: Only come if you can afford Bang & Olufsen. There.
• 19:01
  Speaker 2: I've cut the guest list in half, my friend. Don't worry.
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: Wait.
• 19:04
  Speaker 3: This song, before we go, this song says 60-60. Is
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: that check a 60-60?
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: So, let me tell you the story around that.
• 19:09
  Speaker 6: Pam.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: who's part of the arrows lives in Los Angeles now.
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: So we've been doing this transatlantic recording session. It's been
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: very interesting. And she came to visit her.
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: Family in December and Jan of 2025 going into 2026.
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: And we've been wanting to, we've been talking about this.
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: For a very long time. You know, we need to
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: do a song together, whatever.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: And when she was here visiting her family in South Africa, she,
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: she would run out of bread and oats and whatever,
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: you know, And she said, oh, damn, Ma, I need
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: to go to the shop and buy, you know. And
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: she says, like, all her aunts and her mom would say, no,
• 19:44
  Speaker 4: don't worry, man, we'll just 60-60 it.
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: You know, so when she went back overseas and she
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: was right. the 60-60 part and also the nostalgic South
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: African part was such a South.
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: African thing for her, you know.
• 19:57
  Speaker 4: And in the song, the song is actually a prayer
• 19:59
  Speaker 4: to the Lord, you know, and the Lord is saying,
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: you know, I'll be there like 60-60.
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: 60-60 Let me.
• 20:03
  Speaker 5: Be That's amazing.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: In me Dude, the entire thing.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: It sounds to me. It sounds to me.
• 20:14
  Speaker 3: The song, the album comes out on the 30th of October.
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: On the 14th. 13th or 14th?
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: So 13th is the listening session.
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: 14th is.
• 20:23
  Speaker 4: 14th is Magash's birthday and we're dropping the single titled
• 20:26
  Speaker 4: Magash is Beethoven.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: But this is the tune. This is the song for summer.
• 20:30
  Speaker 3: Everybody needs somebody. Ladies and gentlemen.
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: He is back. Hit him.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: With the shoulder. Hit him.
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: With the shoulder. What?
• 20:52
  Speaker 3: Back to making your morning.
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: And the club.
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: I love this show.
• 20:57
  Speaker 2: On 947.