Latest / Here's to You / 032 - In the cut w/ Smokes - Emilio Bonilla
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- 0:00Thanks for the coffee, Emily. I really needed it.
- 0:03No problem. We got our hurry because we're
- 0:04always late. No!
- 0:09Oh man, there's a everywhere. Where are the napkins?
- 0:11Don't worry about it. We can just go ahead and I'll
- 0:14schedule with to you Auto. They'll come to where we at, and
- 0:16then they'll clean it while we're at the wedding.
- 0:18Okay. You drive off schedule with to
- 0:21you all, do what's website go to to you Auto.com?
- 0:24Wait, what was it again? The number to the letter U
- 0:28Auto.com Perfect. 32 episodes in.
- 1:05Well, at least you're at least you're remembering to hit.
- 1:07Record this sign. Hey!
- 1:10We're all on the learning curve here.
- 1:13Welcome back to another episode of, here's to you the podcast.
- 1:16I am one of your lovely hose, they call me.
- 1:19DI, some people know me as a leave, but I'm the CEO around
- 1:24these parts. Ed the next to me.
- 1:27So in turn got the OG AVG. Emily pp0.
- 1:35You're not CEO. Actual CEO financial advisor.
- 1:38I'm CFO our Treasurer CFO. Hey guys, Center front of her.
- 1:45Got the famous Rancher of all time.
- 1:49Bannister. McCallister.
- 1:50I'm the real CEO. Catch you guys on trout ever
- 1:58straighter. All right, well guys, welcome
- 2:02back everybody. But you guys are happy to hear
- 2:05us again. Oh yeah, we do have an update to
- 2:07we haven't. No.
- 2:08See, that's why we're joking about.
- 2:10Yeah, that is guys aren't LLC now.
- 2:13So we got a tax business number now.
- 2:17Yeah, well, almost But uh, that means that you guys will be able
- 2:21to cop some of our really cool coasters because, you know, like
- 2:24you need stuff like that at home.
- 2:26But aside from that note, we have someone with us today that
- 2:30we really excited to interview you guys, he is a Chicano
- 2:35rapper, he goes by the name of smokes.
- 2:38That's right. He is in the group sick and
- 2:41twisted but is releasing his solo career right now.
- 2:44That's right, let's see. You're gonna have to start off
- 2:47with a beat and Our wrapping right now.
- 2:50Smokes, fuck is spot. Sorry guys, I'm a little rusty,
- 2:57but I'm going to bust one out. Little rusty.
- 3:00That's all right. All right, we close our eyes to
- 3:11little bit closer. You got any type of New York,
- 3:29boom, back, five, old-school, anything or nothing.
- 3:33Let me, let me give me some time to find some brings out my
- 3:39lyrics. Little bit better.
- 3:45I apologize for my co-hosts here, putting you on the spot.
- 3:48It's all good. I'm in.
- 3:50See, I'm supposed to handle those six.
- 3:51That's okay. What do it later?
- 3:53Don't worry, he got find the music but that's all good.
- 3:55Let's talk about you right now. So yeah, I'm yeah, me Leo,
- 3:58right. Tell us about yourself.
- 4:00Do you live, where you, born and raised here in Kansas or yeah,
- 4:06I'm from Salina, Kansas not Salina.
- 4:09This is Selena. Anything personally, am I my
- 4:16father was in the Navy. So we moved to San Diego.
- 4:19When I was a kid. Okay, sister was born there Bay
- 4:22Area? No, no, no Southern Cali.
- 4:24San Diego. So, yeah.
- 4:26We lived because that's where like the Navy base.
- 4:30They call SoCal, right? Not bad.
- 4:32Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
- 4:35Anyways, I lived there till I was like about seven or eight.
- 4:38Then we went to Chicago for a little bit cause my pops is
- 4:41going to be a Navy SEAL and then bam.
- 4:44That's a tough shit. Parkour is a special type of
- 4:46guy, you know, go ahead and drown.
- 4:48I still be alive. Yeah, yeah, he's a special
- 4:53individual, but I get but he had a medical discharge because of
- 5:01diabetes. So things like we're going to go
- 5:04back to Selena because that's where the families at.
- 5:06You know what I mean? So at first, it was cool because
- 5:09I'm 10 years old, and fourth grade and it's weird because the
- 5:14kids I was around before we're a lot more mature than these Kids.
- 5:19And, you know, so I would, I'll cuss here and there and say
- 5:23something, the city kids were doing there.
- 5:29This is bad kid. I thought that was in Chicago.
- 5:48As kids, you know what I mean? Uh-huh, that's okay.
- 5:52Keep going. But anyways, so I met my best
- 6:01friend and fourth grade when we moved to Salina which is
- 6:09Alejandro, Big C, Alejandro from sick and twisted.
- 6:12Shout out to Alejandro big scene.
- 6:14That's my homie right there. Met him in fourth grade.
- 6:18Wade and then we had like a relationship at just kept.
- 6:22We it was just a best friend like I found my best friend.
- 6:26You know what I mean forever. And then from Junior High High
- 6:30School to not really bring every little detail in its just res
- 6:35are getting Affiliated in the start doing stupid, things
- 6:38acting out trying to find our crowd.
- 6:40Yeah, I mean so just doing what youngsters do so but I did play
- 6:44sports for a little bit. So Junior High, I know a 72
- 6:47eighth grade year. I did a basketball and football.
- 6:51Okay. And then that earned me a lot of
- 6:54respect with with the other kids there because we integrated with
- 6:57the other school in the rich kids.
- 6:59Well, I mean like in Kansas, all you got to do is play sports
- 7:02here, you know what I mean? Yeah, times.
- 7:04But like, but the end of the day is not for everyone and
- 7:07everyone's passion, he has to know, that wasn't something that
- 7:09I was really passionate about it.
- 7:10So I thought almost forced into just to gain some type of
- 7:14respect or some type of acceptance.
- 7:15Yeah, I mean but it really wasn't me.
- 7:17I was really an artist I play guitar.
- 7:19I play guitar. Since I was 12.
- 7:21Yeah. So how did you learn to do all
- 7:24that? Like, my pretty much my my
- 7:26cousin's. Thank you very much, my
- 7:28cousin's. They taught me how to play
- 7:30guitar, so I was, I come from a musical family.
- 7:33Hmm. So my pops plays drums, okay?
- 7:36But as you guys are the real Salinas, I can relate to that.
- 7:44We could play a little bit everything straight up.
- 7:48They play a lot of fun. Uh-huh.
- 7:50The classic rock. Uh-huh.
- 7:52To then some comb because, you know, base mix of everything.
- 7:56You know what I'm saying? Because I'm like a fourth
- 7:58generation, you know, Chicano. So, you know what I mean?
- 8:00It's kind of like, I'm Selena store.
- 8:01She like, Donna Summer, you know what I mean?
- 8:03It's kind of like they play the oldies in the beginning right
- 8:06there. Singing the old he's not like
- 8:08they're all fucking pissed at the shit, you know, it's kind of
- 8:11like that, you know what I mean, we're my heels and them, they
- 8:13all had that slicked-back hair, they had the zoo suits and
- 8:17everything like that to do. Different lineage, I mean, but,
- 8:22but I came up with rock at first, you know, that's what I
- 8:25was starting to play at first, we couldn't, are trying to learn
- 8:27in my Primo's were showing me things here and there and I
- 8:30would just teach myself. Yeah.
- 8:32And then I got better at it and that was before the days of
- 8:35YouTube where I actually had to put a CD in rewind it listen to
- 8:40it while trying to find that note find it, finally finding it
- 8:44and being happy like spending hours in the bedroom trying to
- 8:47find it you know what a match. Bring it but then as I started
- 8:51to come and because that's more of my family and my pops and
- 8:54everything. But once I started to come into
- 8:55my own and find out what what's mean, what I like, what I
- 8:59related to the first thing I blew my fucking mind was Tupac.
- 9:02And now I was 14 years old Tupac, resurrection came out and
- 9:07that shit right there. It was like a paradigm shift,
- 9:10like it's something that just shifted in me.
- 9:12Like, when I watch that whole hour and a half documentary,
- 9:14what he was saying was so real and was something that shattered
- 9:17this fantasy world. Old or this world that I feel
- 9:20like the family was trying to protect protect from and they
- 9:23try to live in this fantasy fantasy but you shatter that to
- 9:26some reality and with this is really going on and then I
- 9:29started listening to it just shifted something in me.
- 9:32I was like wow. He like I would I was done
- 9:34watching that movie and I just like was stunned.
- 9:36Like I remember that. I was like wow this is some
- 9:39crazy shit. Like, what I've been, I've been
- 9:41studying more and then I started to rap.
- 9:45My best friend can vouch. You know, I used to call him on
- 9:48the phone rapping like freshman year like hateful.
- 9:51This what I got and I saw a rapping to him.
- 9:52He's like, and he's like, oh shit.
- 9:54I'm just like, you know, but I'm rapping other people's lyrics in
- 9:57a way because I didn't really have enough experience.
- 9:59Remember freshman. So I'm just wrapping a ball.
- 10:02Don't shit that I have no clue about but I'm more gives you
- 10:06like yeah you know what that is Bill.
- 10:11I don't know what that word was. What does that mean?
- 10:17Yeah. Yeah.
- 10:19Person that person. Are you famous?
- 10:21Oh my God. It's so funny.
- 10:23I used to think that the word entrepreneurship and
- 10:25entrepreneur was so funny. Yeah.
- 10:27Like I'm serious. There's an episode of SpongeBob
- 10:30where they like, just are making fun of them being entrepreneurs.
- 10:33And I remember, I would tell my sister, like he said,
- 10:35entrepreneurs, you like, do you even know what that means?
- 10:37I'm like, I do. But it's funny, but yeah.
- 10:44Do you have any siblings to as well?
- 10:46I'm a sister. Yeah, but sister okay.
- 10:48So, douchey, three years younger than me.
- 10:49Shout out Jasmine. Okay, Jasmine, here's to you
- 10:53Jasmine, your phone call, Jasmine, follow the podcast,
- 10:57Jasmine, here's to you because you just shout out of your
- 11:01sister. So you watching Tupac made.
- 11:04You realize like damn like I like this.
- 11:07Like yeah, it's shifted. So I started to rap.
- 11:11The thing is though, it was nothing.
- 11:14I can tell my parents and family about my guitar playing.
- 11:16Now, I know what I saw busting out some rap sheet and they're
- 11:20like, what? Now my mom has down.
- 11:22Yeah, my mom's cool. Well, I'm always down my mom's
- 11:25not. So I'll be playing some all eyes
- 11:27on me in the morning before school.
- 11:28My dad's already at work. Yes.
- 11:30So the Navy Seals. Yeah, straight, you know, My
- 11:41room dancing. I love it.
- 11:44That Tupac Shakur, relate to me, you know, and so I would I would
- 11:51never rapped my mom but she knew I was into this type of music
- 11:55and yeah her brother, my uncle, rest in peace, my uncle for
- 11:58r.e.m., he would burn me. Tupac CDs on the loan like don't
- 12:04tell your pops straight up right now.
- 12:15Yeah, military there. Yeah, straight to fuck up, you
- 12:20know. So when did you tell him that
- 12:23you were getting into Rabbi? You were starting to write
- 12:25lyrics and what was his reaction to?
- 12:28So that's later on our way later on.
- 12:30Yeah. So as we started rapping it got
- 12:33into later in high school, it was about Junior Senior Year, my
- 12:39best friend Alejandro Um, he took it up and really a classic.
- 12:45I can't help it. No, that's That's a classic when
- 12:48I was out. I know he was getting harassed
- 12:49daily with that you know. Love you big see.
- 12:56I need to meet him. So you were talking about how
- 13:05you. Okay, so no it's okay.
- 13:07He started he out of nowhere, built a studio.
- 13:09He was like, is amen. An and Mama's House Alima Kansas
- 13:16straight up, Salina Kansas. We got some work to do and
- 13:29that's why I smile to myself. And I don't say that in no lie
- 13:35to myself, I know I can relate. Yeah.
- 13:38Before we even had a professional Mike, we had the we
- 13:40had Pantyhose, around the things, you know, the, the
- 13:45stocking cap, whatever we try to make it work.
- 13:47Mama thing is about his parents house.
- 13:49They were the cool parents, like that.
- 13:51Motherfucker's, hang out over there, you know what I mean?
- 13:53Always that one friend, that has a cool as Perry.
- 13:56That's Emily's, parents to last night.
- 13:58Emily was at the house. Preparing, the drink for today.
- 14:01Yeah. And then her mom calls her.
- 14:03And then she was like. So what are you?
- 14:04What are you doing? Where are you Emily's?
- 14:06Like oh, I'm out right now doing crack.
- 14:25But anyways, continue no. So he built a studio.
- 14:30And he downloaded this this on his computer called Mixcraft and
- 14:36it was like, you show me how to like he's more into that.
- 14:39Like he's more into like the doing all that stuff.
- 14:43The technical stuff. He's like, man, he so he's
- 14:45getting all the stuff download putting it all together.
- 14:47Setting up the mic and he knew I had the lyrics so he's just like
- 14:50but so when I even our watch Straight Out of Compton, and at
- 14:54the beginning of that part, I can relate.
- 14:56Like I know what that's like as well.
- 14:58Like we're all home, he's in the studio.
- 14:59We had the paper pin trying to bust it at home.
- 15:02You can trap right ever? Like stuff like that.
- 15:08Like I can relate hurry up. It's like we made the mistake
- 15:15early on is because we're having so much fun is that?
- 15:17We're trying to write it on the spot right there.
- 15:20Yeah. Ankle wrap it and we're not that
- 15:22professional yet. So it took a long time to try to
- 15:25wrap skirt. We're still trying to get
- 15:26familiar with our verse, right? How did you guys make it like,
- 15:29Crime or anything like that. I don't understand.
- 15:32That's hard. I mean, I don't know.
- 15:34I it's something that says in, you know, I mean, you'll serve
- 15:37finding you your vocabulary starts expanding, the more you
- 15:41work with it, you know, me and but I like to kind of keep it
- 15:44simple to the point, kind of like, how cute was like, you
- 15:47know, I got style. It's to the point.
- 15:49Yeah, I have some metaphors here and there but I like to give it
- 15:52to you straight up your mean but um, don't we spoke.
- 15:56We started to do stuff like that and it was fun because people
- 15:59would come over. To the kick it house.
- 16:01Yeah. And it wasn't to like do no -
- 16:03shit. Now it was time to like, we're
- 16:05doing music, you know, because we could easily just go do -
- 16:08sure that's easy, you know what I mean?
- 16:09That's available every day, you know what I mean?
- 16:11Because it got crazy back in the days, but we decided to do that.
- 16:16So I knew early on, you know, when you're you're, you know,
- 16:21this is not good right here. You can't say that because fools
- 16:25be looking at you funny. So then you but you just got to
- 16:28do what you got to do something positive.
- 16:29Of and let it be, you know. And and so anyways we had a gang
- 16:34of songs and we big see still he has everything that do he got he
- 16:39got all like all the old school shit from were 18 trying to bust
- 16:43the flow. He has it all, you know, I do.
- 16:45That's the room that that's their dry right there.
- 16:48Yeah. He got the vote on that.
- 16:50On that old school shit, you know?
- 16:51Yeah. But then we are set up for a
- 16:53show with this home boy named on Dilla you from Topeka and he did
- 16:58a show with us but it was Just out of Hotel.
- 17:00It was like the Red Coach was a big as it was.
- 17:03Big, big room. Yeah, people showed up it was
- 17:06mostly just homies that showed up was it was like people have
- 17:08showed you know supported us you know.
- 17:10And you know typical rap concert couple fights people getting
- 17:14drunk, you know whatever. But it was all good.
- 17:16Love it. Yeah, typical.
- 17:17It was all love at the end of the night.
- 17:18It was all good but I was our first show we did now.
- 17:21I know 18:18, you know that we did that show and it's funny
- 17:26because my My my co rappers. Yeah but you know whatever they
- 17:33tell their parents or they like hey we got a show tonight you
- 17:35know back then like we think we're already shaved.
- 17:37Her. Tatted-up we already have a
- 17:39already know. We fucking crazy, you know?
- 17:41Like they already know what's up with us, but how to sing it,
- 17:43they just they know what's up with us.
- 17:45Yeah, I know. But they were more open with
- 17:47that but I was more protective with my passion.
- 17:49Yeah, I didn't want to tell my pops.
- 17:50It back. You get yourself a job.
- 18:28In a way where everything? Yeah, your fourth generation.
- 18:31Yeah, I think that's good enough, right?
- 18:33You put your weed in foil that you can smell that shit.
- 18:37I wish I was smart enough. Never keep my weed at that
- 18:39house. Never don't never, don't never
- 18:42did, I never did because if you get ratted out that's the first
- 18:45place they go straight up. I got a little, I got okay, I
- 18:49got busted one time right in front of my parents house,
- 18:51right? And I was 18 for some some, you
- 18:54know, I mean nothing, but some roaches.
- 18:56Okay now, but Junia Twitter that's not even that's not even
- 19:00whe when I came back out of jail.
- 19:02The next day my room was toward the fuck up.
- 19:05Yeah, I mean they went through so I don't keep nothing in.
- 19:08I was cool. You know what I mean?
- 19:09I was good, you know, but anyways, little Side Story.
- 19:13No, it's all good, I'm good. Real life right there.
- 19:16So at this point though, your dad still doesn't know know
- 19:20you're you're getting to that part to see what see we had a
- 19:23couple more souls. I still wasn't saying anything.
- 19:28But I think my sister eventually just she just start telling Mom
- 19:32and Pops a, You Know, M been doing.
- 19:34Whoo. Yeah, really.
- 19:36Yeah. And then them trying to be like,
- 19:39well, intention, mmm want to support.
- 19:43So the like well we're going to go to when your option like fuck
- 19:45you're like yeah you don't want to know what I'm rapping about.
- 19:48Trust me. I swear I did not smoke crack.
- 19:52I that girls it was more like I know I did that to them is like,
- 20:03Mom, those these women are not bitches.
- 20:06I swear, I don't know, I never had classes music like that.
- 20:11I never I never did music that really degraded anyone.
- 20:14Okay. Yeah, but if I did mention
- 20:17something to that degree was just it's everyone, everyone
- 20:21knows what he's talking about but it wasn't like I'm going on
- 20:24a song, like bitches ain't shit straight up.
- 20:28Dre. Yeah, dr.
- 20:28Dre Snoop. I love y'all.
- 20:30Yeah but that was never my thing.
- 20:32I was a more of a do some G shit and because at the time that's
- 20:36what I was experiencing. Yeah, then I would wrap love
- 20:39shit. You know, that was, that was it?
- 20:42I'll try to do a party Jam here and there but that was I wasn't
- 20:46out my mind at that time. Yeah.
- 20:49I'm saying so but ya know. So it wasn't so late.
- 20:54So they showed up to one of our shows, we had the blue gold and
- 20:57is now not open now and Selena. And and I was kind of like it
- 21:03was like awkward, you know, because then the whole cousins
- 21:05and everyone route there and we had a half hour set, we jump on
- 21:11and do my thing and I could see out in the audience, I could see
- 21:18everyone vibing. Yeah, but then I felt that that,
- 21:22that that stair, you know, to flow across the room type of
- 21:25stare like, like this is what he does.
- 21:28Yeah. I mean, I'm like fuck, you know,
- 21:31I know I know but by that time shit 21 years old and me out
- 21:35right? That's the time from 18 to 21
- 21:37there. And yeah.
- 21:39Oh damn this on the low. Well how do you how do you hit
- 21:43that for that long? I had a lot of things but you
- 21:48already have to choose then or not.
- 21:51Yeah, yeah. Tattoos or no, no, okay.
- 21:55It's either. Those are things where like,
- 21:56I'll come downstairs, not thinking that thinking, that
- 22:00those what I got one of my back because brown pride of my back.
- 22:03Yeah. And I'm coming down the stairs,
- 22:05they can. He's at work.
- 22:06Yeah. Let me take a vacation day or
- 22:08something. I'm gonna fuck her in the living
- 22:09room and and have my shirt off. He's like, what the fuck is
- 22:13that? Like Shit.
- 22:17He kind of reminds me of like Tony Soprano, right?
- 22:20Like or the you know the Mobsters would go to church and
- 22:23they can kill you and he okay. Yeah.
- 22:28But it's not right for you Dad. He swears like a sailor.
- 22:32Yeah. But it's not right for you know
- 22:35and he can watch all the gory movies.
- 22:38All the gangster movies, all the swearing, all the but if he
- 22:41hears it over lyrics that's blasphemy.
- 22:45So there was a certain like damn but by that point I was looking
- 22:48for his acceptance anyway. It's right.
- 22:50Is what it was. You know what it is.
- 22:52Yeah. And then we just kept going from
- 22:56there doing shows and shows we had it backwards at that time
- 23:01because there was really no you to YouTube was starting to pop
- 23:04off but there wasn't really I didn't really have no knowledge
- 23:06of how to work that we're still trying to fucking hustle CDs and
- 23:09shit like we had printed CDs, has 2009 10 11.
- 23:13So we're still Things were starting to change.
- 23:15Janna me that we're trying to catch like it was kind of like,
- 23:18almost an overnight thing, but it wasn't like immediate, you
- 23:22know, like it wasn't this gradual switch off from CDs,
- 23:25over to YouTube. It was like, overnight.
- 23:27Just, I don't know where it popped off and you're like, what
- 23:30the fuck? That's true because when I surf,
- 23:33when I first heard of you too, I'm like damn this is this is
- 23:36Cole. Like yeah, thing.
- 23:38Anybody can do anything on YouTube.
- 23:40You know, you mean? Yeah, yeah.
- 23:42So we started to hustle. See.
- 23:44These were doing shows and I tell you, I tell you one thing
- 23:47about doing shows is that's really being outside here.
- 23:51You're not inside, you ain't hard and you outside your front
- 23:54line and people cities and shit. And you're affiliated with a
- 23:58certain thing is going to be and it's usually a gangster crowd.
- 24:02But most the time it says love like is not hostile, it's really
- 24:06fun. And I know liberal a lot of
- 24:09homies there and it was dope because there was a it was a big
- 24:13parking lot, right? One had the by cycle of right
- 24:15there, they're playing their shit was dope.
- 24:17They had to Halt the homie, Chicano hip-hop club, that was
- 24:20Poppin right there because we were opening up for zigzag from
- 24:23then be Riders, whatever. So, wait over there while my
- 24:27brother. Yeah, see that was open
- 24:29Southwest, we grew up in. So y'all ready?
- 24:41Now in southwest Kansas have kind of chill.
- 24:44Out quite a bit. I think we all have.
- 24:46Yeah yeah. But like back then it was more
- 24:50about the yeah. Yeah, we're just more loud.
- 24:53You know what I mean? Like, you know about it.
- 24:55I remember I was really young and I was like, I should not
- 24:59know the things that I know you see me on Wyatt herb.
- 25:02Listen to all these songs and everybody's like oh who the fuck
- 25:06is she lives in Asian ass, bitch?
- 25:09We were all listening to us p.m. yeah that's yeah, that's
- 25:13everyone. Back then I was never a big fan
- 25:15of his. I just never, I didn't like his
- 25:18voice. You know, I'll put it bluntly
- 25:19grills, Voice or mr. Capone is well, yeah, that's
- 25:24what I grew up on. Okay, so I listened to that to
- 25:27you. I grew up on the high-power
- 25:29shit. That was a shit that my homies
- 25:30bumped in the park on Sundays. Like we all kicked it.
- 25:33They're bumping that shit. Yeah, I felt like that was the
- 25:36realest that and little Rob Williams was my shit.
- 25:39I always had and then Kid Frost my earring back in the days when
- 25:42a hill as well. Try / CI.
- 25:44So much inside Priscilla, can't really consider him too much.
- 25:46Chicano, hip-hop. I'd like, I felt them.
- 25:49They were whole different Lane. Like they had Chicano Spice in
- 25:52their stuff, but they had the like corn rolls and they had to
- 25:55have different things, it was just them, you know what I mean?
- 25:59But this was like representing our lineage and, and and tell
- 26:03you how naive we were. We were learn certain things
- 26:05growing up being teenagers, right?
- 26:07So a little whistles, little chirps little things that we
- 26:10list. We, I grew to naturally.
- 26:13Yeah. And then We will get excited to
- 26:15hear it on a CD from Folsom Callie were like, oh man,
- 26:19they're doing that like us. Yeah, really like doing it like
- 26:22them? Yeah.
- 26:24Spread over here. People think like, oh, that's
- 26:26only Callie base and everything like that, but no, it's
- 26:28everywhere. Like a music is so many
- 26:31different music is one language everybody.
- 26:33You know, and I just that's what I think.
- 26:35I don't know. Yeah, I don't know, liberal and
- 26:39other Garden City as popping. We did it.
- 26:41We did, it shows a caponi and them out there.
- 26:43Yeah. Now the thing, We're doing shows
- 26:46building up our name and there's a rapper and Nebraska named
- 26:50Billy the Kid shout out to Billy the Kid.
- 26:54He hit us up and say hey y'all want to be part of a show.
- 26:56I'm throwing here in Grand Island Nebraska and he's like
- 26:59Capone he's going to be on the show.
- 27:01Hmm. And were like oh shit, you know.
- 27:03So we're excited. Just to open up.
- 27:05You know like man, we might meet the homie.
- 27:07And all right, we're getting excited about it.
- 27:09Um, caponi had tour buses at that time so he was sending tour
- 27:13buses all through. Ooh Kansas.
- 27:14And then he sent it to the Southwest area.
- 27:17Moving all the way up, and we met the homies on the tour bus
- 27:21and I actually skip work that day.
- 27:23Like I told my lead man, I say, hey, he was boricua from the
- 27:27Bronx. Very his name was Israel or
- 27:30whatever and a money I'd be like, he's straight Bronx.
- 27:35Like he's a type of where basketball shorts with his Tim's
- 27:37on, like I like the Bronx accent.
- 27:40Yeah. Oh, he got that.
- 27:42That accent, you know, he's like, That's a lie.
- 27:47Yeah, that act but cool guy. Cool guy.
- 27:50Yeah, he was cool. He's my lead, man.
- 27:51He's like a come follow me. It goes the office.
- 27:55There was just like request. She, that was like, for time off
- 27:58that I and we dated at a certain date.
- 28:01Yeah. He's I got you don't know where
- 28:02it go ahead. Go like cool.
- 28:04And I did they were at the mall we met up and we it was just a
- 28:08little experience, you know? I mean it was cool.
- 28:10Yeah, lady Pink's called one of the homies.
- 28:14Just like our he got her on the phone just to show out for us,
- 28:17right? He's like, hey I want to talk to
- 28:19Lady Pink's like yeah, and God on phone fever.
- 28:23Getting a little excited about it.
- 28:24It's called. We did that show and Grand
- 28:32Island. That's when we first met up with
- 28:33Capone Grand Island. Was, I was like that was a tough
- 28:36crowd out. There was Nebraska fools don't
- 28:37fucking play like yeah, that crowd was kind of tense.
- 28:40Like like first we got in there the homes from high-powered and
- 28:43they didn't we? From when we met up.
- 28:45Yeah. For that can already get down
- 28:47right now. And we're like, damn, we just
- 28:49got here. I don't know by your name.
- 28:53Yeah. Luckily, it security got to
- 28:54whoever we're starting shit and was throwing them out.
- 28:56I'm like, I'm trying to enjoy my show.
- 28:59Yeah, but you felt that, and to the degree where like my homeboy
- 29:03just came back from the bar with his drinks.
- 29:05It is woman sitting down, and I'm sitting there, you know,
- 29:08and, and I'm looking at that bar and look so far away.
- 29:11Yeah. It means I'm like like I just
- 29:14filled The tension I'm like man, come come roll with me you know,
- 29:16come walk with me but it was at that time I have an ego.
- 29:20Yeah it was like I don't need you to come with me go by
- 29:22myself, Donna, me, but I was like nervous the same time
- 29:26you're like hey I got this bro. If you want Drive?
- 29:30Yeah. Yes sir.
- 29:44Tell me a sec around you but you follow me though, right?
- 29:48And I tell you what was icing on the cake when after we did a
- 29:50performance because we're doing some kind of gangster tracks to
- 29:52at the time and when your adrenaline rush you're on the
- 29:54stage attendant, got you tend to push East and yeah I feel a
- 29:58little. Yeah.
- 30:00We get off the stage and it's always usually love, you know
- 30:02what I mean. And but but what made it awkward
- 30:04that night? He's like some of the girls
- 30:06wanted to take pictures with us, but it's like I'm over that's
- 30:09gonna fly with your dude. He's these mad-dogging over here
- 30:13and It's not take pictures were me and I'm really nobody.
- 30:16I'm just I'm just a regular mom, I gotta go to work.
- 30:24If you want to stand like five feet closer, just take five
- 30:27steps forward and then this is how we can take the picture.
- 30:30Yeah, straight up my be like, girl, I'm just a regular guy,
- 30:3395. Your man, not a 5-2.
- 30:36It was fun. And I think a liberal, what was
- 30:39a good fun experience? Because when we open up for
- 30:41zigzag, that was the first time we had like, Fan, like people
- 30:45like his, they don't know, we just they see as with somebody.
- 30:48Yeah and they think that we're Samba was this with your group
- 30:52or was it was me and my my brother another big see.
- 30:56That's what we're sick. Twist this one, with the group,
- 30:58you know. How did you guys all started the
- 31:01group and everything? Really?
- 31:03It was, it was that him making the studio and Boston, the wraps
- 31:07and then I was just coming out solo.
- 31:10I'm always just a solo artist, you know, at the heart, you
- 31:12know, and then one day he came Came up him and his sister with
- 31:15idea of it is due sick and twisted.
- 31:17They had this name and I was down with it because that's my
- 31:20family right now. Like we're all gonna do like
- 31:22straight up. So when come out like NWA or
- 31:24Westside Connection, we all the trio were to come out hard with
- 31:27the girl with the, you know what I mean?
- 31:28That's then by Chuka. Yeah, that's right.
- 31:31Yeah. So and we're doing our thing.
- 31:33But she had a trick like a fucking bust.
- 31:38Like she'll she'll get a shoe. Get a urge one day and it's and
- 31:42I'm being 1000. It's not a consistent.
- 31:45I'm not consistent a lot of things, but when she comes out
- 31:48when she ready? Yeah, so lay one out on, Yes,
- 31:53she'll bust some shit out. So, back in the day, she did a
- 31:55lot of surprises on us. And I, and she was really good
- 31:58at her voice was singing. So she was doing stuff like
- 32:01that. And then she got married.
- 32:03You know, as though she's like wrapping or she likes singing.
- 32:06She does both. She doesn't know.
- 32:07Yeah. Okay.
- 32:08Okay. Yeah.
- 32:09But I think she's better at a singing.
- 32:11I think singing sort of thing. You know what I mean?
- 32:13Like, and I think she Knows that to it when she feels the urge,
- 32:16she gonna bust a rap out, you know, but as most of us
- 32:21Mexicans, we get married early and have families and that's
- 32:24what that's what happened with her.
- 32:25So you know, she she was doing the family thing really young.
- 32:30I did the family thing really young.
- 32:31You know. That's the thing.
- 32:33Especially southwest Kansas. Yeah, yeah.
- 32:36And and but I'll still making it where I'm still.
- 32:38Like, on the road, I'm doing my thing.
- 32:41Still, you know, trying to balance that out, you know.
- 32:43That's crazy, huh? How do you bout that bass about
- 32:46that later? So you guys group sick and
- 32:51twisted with with with buk, buk Yuka, Yuka and big see that's
- 32:56right. Y'all met from when Big C made
- 32:59that studio and everything. Well, right.
- 33:01I was now. I've been friends with him
- 33:02since. Yeah, I was 10.
- 33:04So, like fourth grade, we go back to like that.
- 33:06Like, yeah, we're playing video games, loving wrestling.
- 33:09Like, we're like little kids. We just love, you know, we love
- 33:12each other brothers. You know what I mean?
- 33:14And so his sister is like two years younger than him.
- 33:18So she was like in second grade, you know, so like family, you
- 33:22know what I mean? So it but the creative part they
- 33:25always knew I was a creative person.
- 33:27As far as music goes my family. Like yeah, I always made music.
- 33:31Always trying to ride. Always try to act and I was
- 33:33doing like things, you know. So AJ had Angels, a soccer
- 33:37player that was a badass. Goalie, my homeboy being a big
- 33:41ass cholo as he is in high school ball headed and
- 33:43everything out. A lot of homes in do sports
- 33:46right there to cool in sports. Yeah, a lot of homies have
- 33:49fucked that they ought to try it without them dropping out and
- 33:51they just trying to grow up really fast, you know, the mean
- 33:54and, but do you have a few homies?
- 33:55I would say fucking still do some sports, right.
- 33:57So he was out there. Bought, we had a scholarship and
- 34:00everything is college and badass.
- 34:02Yeah. And so that was really his thing
- 34:06and then when high school was over with and he was still here,
- 34:10but we're still doing music and one thing I and And I say this
- 34:15in sounds bad, but but I'm like, man, the sports, it's going,
- 34:20whether way music always be here.
- 34:28I'm like there's a certain thing that says, it's lasting.
- 34:32And something that you have to take physical, you have to happy
- 34:34physically committed. I'm trying to put this in
- 34:36people's and then the opportunities, right?
- 34:39Like, a lot of my cousins are a lot of people that I know my
- 34:42cousin. Sorry.
- 34:43A lot of People, a lot of people, I know, love you
- 34:47dedicate themselves to sports and that's fine.
- 34:49You know, him as a way to be productive and yeah, get
- 34:52yourself out of something - I get that.
- 34:55But after high school is over, I start seeing a lot of the, like,
- 34:59what is I already knew? This was me right since I was
- 35:0210. I can't.
- 35:03I don't have to discover it later.
- 35:05I knew this was me. Yeah, you know, I lost it later
- 35:08and that's in my lyrics, my track that I have my, I lost it
- 35:11later and how to figure it out, you know.
- 35:14Like, that's a little bit later on, but now I was just trying to
- 35:17gain back my passion. Yeah, you know, little by
- 35:19little, I get my priorities straight, I'll take care of
- 35:22things. Yeah, just bought a house last
- 35:24month. Yeah, well thank you can put
- 35:27Morgan now. You know what mortgage means
- 35:29straight up. He's very greek latin for death
- 35:39and then gauge is contracts. It was a death contract, you
- 35:42know more gauge. Yeah.
- 35:45We find the contract with the devil.
- 35:47That's it. Did we did and I didn't even get
- 35:49nothing in return, man. Me, their fucking wack bucking
- 35:52shit. So I felt like in a degree like
- 35:55my soul's permitted me to I can I can have some fun.
- 35:59Yeah. And I'm just doing it for fun.
- 36:01Yeah, I'll have no serious mission with it.
- 36:04When I was younger. I did, you know, because I was
- 36:06younger, you know? And and and I had at my reality,
- 36:10there's I was still living in like right, right, right.
- 36:13But also like, you know, You were younger.
- 36:14So your perception of the rest of the world and what was
- 36:17happening is very I was very selfish at that time.
- 36:22I was very about me, I feel like all of us.
- 36:24Yeah, I mean like navigating you straight up so trying to figure
- 36:31yourself out, still want to know.
- 36:32Like they're still it's such a big world out there.
- 36:34You don't even know what's going to happen next, you know?
- 36:37Yeah. But I mean like you.
- 36:38Now you're saying you wanted who more be more passionate about it
- 36:42you know you knew what you want to do straight.
- 36:44And then not a lot of people are like that because you like,
- 36:46you're like, man, I want to be a doctor.
- 36:47Now be a nurse and I'm sure it was wack to me though.
- 36:50Like this boring to me like how fucking whack was a standing
- 36:54behind a desk all day like trying to figure out someone
- 37:01like no. I mean I mean if that's your
- 37:04thing, I should think, I just knew it.
- 37:18Try to get you ready for it, and stuff like that, and ridiculous
- 37:24as it seems. Now, I know guys, like Matt,
- 37:26there is no college for hip-hop. There's no college for my music.
- 37:29There's no college for that. I'm like, I can't go to college
- 37:32for that and then for what, like, get stuck with a fucking
- 37:34bill. My parents were going to go
- 37:36fucking help me. Yeah, I mean financially,
- 37:38they're like, hey, you tough shit.
- 37:40You're on your own. You don't.
- 37:40I mean I do like those type of parents.
- 37:42Yeah, but I mean, you're on your own.
- 37:44Figure out for yourself, 18, October and fucking go straight
- 37:47up and me being older and wiser. I don't believe in that as much
- 37:50anymore, I believe in like helping your family.
- 37:54You're always will be a father to the day.
- 37:55You die you. No matter how old you are,
- 37:57you'll still be a child to your parents so whether I'm 60 and
- 38:00they're 90, it's it. I'm still going to be there
- 38:02child, you know, there still has to be some type of connection
- 38:05there, you know? But I think that when I turn 18
- 38:07it kind of got cut the fuck off your grown very that that Navy
- 38:11SEAL came out. And I had to grow up really
- 38:15fast. Yeah, I'm not saying I did I
- 38:17help the situation. I was a little Thug.
- 38:19Little Rebel motherfucker out there too.
- 38:21So it wasn't like, I was conforming to anything.
- 38:23He was saying, yeah, looking back at.
- 38:25I cannot blame them for saying, get the fuck out.
- 38:27No, I'm gonna same thing, you know, so it's just a lot of
- 38:30growing up. You made.
- 38:31You suffer straight up. So shout out to Pops.
- 38:33Your man shall tell Papa baby seal?
- 38:36Yeah, well, make them. Do some push-ups after this.
- 38:38Yeah, there we go. He's gonna do burpees.
- 38:42What's what's okay? So you know how You sales
- 38:44they're you know they're tough shit.
- 38:46That's the toughest thing like they're like toughest ones
- 38:50raising being raised by your dad.
- 38:53Were you always scared of him? Yeah though we feel.
- 38:57Alright. What's like the number one thing
- 38:59that makes you still fear Tim to this day?
- 39:01What he will say. But Iraq look.
- 39:06He just had that look natural. Yeah, in a good mood, having
- 39:11that look like I am laughing. We all have flaws right on your
- 39:26enemy that can be filed, but we're human, you know?
- 39:29I mean it and when you get older and you know we want we start.
- 39:33I understand. Yeah when you go what are you
- 39:35gonna say you joke about it. You'll get it through a time you
- 39:38get hurt, right? You get to tell like you did
- 39:40this to me and yeah. There's a learning to their.
- 39:45Yeah. Yeah.
- 39:46Like don't ya? Like it's okay.
- 39:48You know what I mean and also forgive yourself.
- 39:50So, you know. Yeah.
- 39:51He was really strict and all that but you know, you gave me a
- 39:54lot of good qualities. I see a lot of my homeboys who
- 39:55didn't have that as some were still living with the mama
- 39:59today, and I'm not hating. I'm not hating.
- 40:03I'm just saying impossible to deal with that.
- 40:06Yeah. No, my different is, I will my
- 40:08parents didn't my house in the basement.
- 40:15You have a whole a Spaceman that's sexy, that's sexy in
- 40:192023. A whole, a Spaceman to yourself
- 40:21damn girl. And she's single y'all, she's
- 40:23single single. Yeah, the ABG of the show hit
- 40:26her up. It's it's me Em's.
- 40:29I think is the only amps? Yep.
- 40:32Yep. I can't remember.
- 40:33Probably here. So you cast this.
- 40:34It's a getting back to like the music shit.
- 40:39So we do the thing show Capone in Grand Island.
- 40:41This is that's a group, right? Is this goodbye.
- 40:44Time it was just me and Big C goes out.
- 40:46She's getting pregnant. Mary, she was doing, you know
- 40:49what, her family thing, you know, ahead, gone.
- 40:51Still got it straight up. So we knew she and her husband,
- 40:54you know, he's straight-up Mexican, you know, allow his
- 40:57wife to go on stage and just like that you got he was kind of
- 41:00one of old-school fools. You know, I mean and anyway so
- 41:03she had that going on me and my homie were doing our thing.
- 41:07We're out there. Just he's finding beats were
- 41:09doing recording just non-stop like we just had an energy you
- 41:13know now. I get one album in our one run
- 41:16record in a day and I'm like, I'm tired, you know, back then
- 41:18would you like three or four songs like was just keep going?
- 41:20You know, we had that hunger but so we did the song or we did a
- 41:23concert in Grand Island, then we go to Garden for a second caponi
- 41:28show. And it was, it was like a
- 41:30Christmas Bash. Right?
- 41:31So it wasn't December and and the flyer was green and had
- 41:35Christmas lights and heck, a pony on the flyer that was like
- 41:37in Garden City, you know? And, and, and I know I'm not
- 41:41going to speak on it too much, but I know the homies that are
- 41:43out there. No my homies over here which it
- 41:46was all love so that we showed up and it was a good time, you
- 41:49know? They greeted us.
- 41:51Riley are you from Selena get a full day and because we had like
- 41:55a little booths that we had set up back in the days, they had
- 41:57your merch and shit like that, at that, at the easily, we had
- 42:00our shirts and CDs. And and you know what I mean?
- 42:02And other homies have posters and bigger, you know, they have
- 42:05better stuff. You know, we're just coming up,
- 42:09we kill that show. I seek a pony coming in and I
- 42:13met him at And Island as first time meeting him and I'm
- 42:16strictly a fan. So I go and I'm like, I'm
- 42:19trying, I'm trying to be tough but I'm like a bus that's my
- 42:23like, I'm like yeah, you know, thank you.
- 42:44Seeing them and Grant, you know, as many people he sees every
- 42:46day. He ain't gonna remember me but I
- 42:49seen him and garden and decided, fuck it, I want something.
- 42:52Hey homie, I saw you. I saw you went and Grand Island
- 42:55memory for and he's just like I know he wasn't trying to be rude
- 42:59so he just kind of looked at me like yeah you know.
- 43:04Yeah and then the other homies that that were on the tour bus I
- 43:06knew us to stuff. The homie Wicked shout out to
- 43:09Wicked. Like a lot of those photos were
- 43:10like, oh yeah, no these the Kan Army's, dog, like they straight?
- 43:14Oh yeah, cool. And we start chopping up with
- 43:16him a little bit, and it was just really brief.
- 43:18We go back to the after-party. Now, y'all know how Garden them
- 43:22get down? So we go to the after-party,
- 43:24right? And and we had a lot of the
- 43:27homies there but there was just one Hina that was there and she
- 43:30had her girlfriend never heard of high enough photos, I know,
- 43:38but that's how we know. We're back in southwest.
- 43:44Friends. Yeah she had a black khaki suit
- 43:46on but a red shirt. Red Shucks red flag, red hat.
- 43:51Yeah, she a blind know that she'd like us teca like gas,
- 43:56right? A stochastic speak on that but
- 44:06no, but he's about to come to the after party in the hotel.
- 44:11And and I remember one of the home.
- 44:14Girls looked at her like it's gonna fucking weird.
- 44:16That shit. Yeah.
- 44:18Capone coming up in here and and she had like this long ponytail
- 44:22that was like all like all the way down.
- 44:25Like around her girlfriend a girlfriend, it's all love.
- 44:44These all love, you know but you get those little moments here
- 44:48and there when you're doing shows everywhere but for the
- 44:51most part it's all Been Loved. We did a show in Denver.
- 44:53This was the third show that we did.
- 44:55No no no the third show we did was in Salina with component.
- 45:00Yeah. See this why I got hooked up a
- 45:01component personally and I have a track by him to come on.
- 45:07I'm leading up to that. So the homie Wicked is like hey
- 45:13we should do a show. Oh in your town.
- 45:15I'm like until Capone about it and I kept in touch with Wicked
- 45:19because we did a track with him and I was like all right cool he
- 45:23I'm gonna shoot him your number and I didn't believe in this
- 45:26shit really I'm just thinking he just talking shit you know just
- 45:29to flatter me right? Yeah I'm like whatever I'm about
- 45:32to go to work. I'm about to work a night shift
- 45:3466 and a factory at Tony's Pizza and Selena, right?
- 45:38And a shout out to people or Tony's Pizza so I always used to
- 45:42work there and I'm like fuck. About to go to work, my phone
- 45:45rings. And it's some strange as like
- 45:47913. Not some crazy number, right?
- 45:49And I'm like, what is it? And I answer and as all that
- 45:53motherfucker's on the phone, right?
- 45:54He's like hey what's up homie? Like when he's like are you want
- 45:57to throw Sean? Like, I got him on the phone and
- 46:00I'm tripping myself. So I'm talking, like, no need.
- 46:03Not really calling me right now, right?
- 46:05I'm like, hell. Yeah, dude, I want to do a show,
- 46:07man, Bob Lazar. All right, he's like, it will
- 46:09chop up game tomorrow. I'll hit you up and get it.
- 46:12Crackin. Cool, I go to work.
- 46:14Work. Most my homeboys worked at
- 46:16Tony's on that shift I was at. So like I go in there.
- 46:18I'm telling my homie want, all my other homies.
- 46:21Hey, fool like. Well, I'm trying to explain
- 46:23caponi, call me, but I don't think they were really soaking
- 46:25it in. You're probably looking at me,
- 46:27like I built a little relationship with the pony.
- 46:35So I saw, I had to talk to him. And then damn, that's cool.
- 46:38And yeah, so so we did a show on August 21st, 2013. 12.
- 46:45Hmm. Hot damn summer to all the hot
- 46:47summer we did. I was the time that the world
- 46:50was going to end straight up. I was paranoid all sounded like
- 46:55that. What you doing?
- 46:58Hey well I mean like you're in Japan to wrap.
- 47:01Of course you're like all that stick us of your like yep that's
- 47:03real house. Yeah yeah like I believe in this
- 47:06straight up that's my shit and mashita not why?
- 47:09Like that's my shit. So I like I study that I study a
- 47:12lot of history. Anyways, I was In my head a
- 47:15little bit for secondly. Oh shit.
- 47:16It's going to happen. You know like well at least I
- 47:18died happy. So I'm talking like a pony
- 47:22getting business straight. Now here's the thing, I'm not a
- 47:24promoter. I didn't know any promote.
- 47:26I was doing this shit myself, just out of to being a fan.
- 47:29So I at the time I won't be I was I was selling drugs at that
- 47:34time, just to be 100. So I had a lot of money coming
- 47:37in at that time and I knew how to finance that show, I don't do
- 47:41that anymore. That's why I'm talking freely
- 47:43about it. I'm a legit man.
- 47:46That's nothing. That's what I'm talking about,
- 47:48my 20s. Yeah, and I was a dumbass, you
- 47:52know what I'm saying? But I'm just, I'm really honest
- 47:55with myself. Yeah.
- 47:56You know what I'm saying? So now, it's just a lot of
- 47:58people like that. I'm honest, that's what
- 48:02happened. That's what it was.
- 48:03So, I was throwing shows off that but damn, there's a lot of
- 48:09work that goes into it. As far as I got to book the
- 48:11venue, I got a book The The sound security.
- 48:17I got a book is tickets. The hotel room?
- 48:19That's a lot. How many homeys he wants to do
- 48:22that? And make sure that you get what
- 48:24he wants in his when he comes back.
- 48:26What is it? Like their list of things,
- 48:28right? And tell you what he told me.
- 48:30He said, I'm a grown, man. We don't need you to feed me.
- 48:32Oh, you know, he was cool. Like he was cool about that.
- 48:35Like, I can request anything homie.
- 48:36He said, straight up. He's like, but I know you just
- 48:38getting started. He's a real good, dude, though.
- 48:40Capone is really good guy like, yeah.
- 48:42Like so he was just like, You know, I I'll bring basically his
- 48:47extra homies on his dime almost because he knew I was like, bro.
- 48:49Like I was hustling but I wasn't hustling like that.
- 48:52Like, I wasn't like no. Pablo.
- 48:53Escobar like, I'm just trying to make ends meet how awesome easy
- 48:56shit. Right?
- 48:57Trying to scrape by and I'm just like, damn, dude, he's looking
- 49:02out that way. We did a good show that night
- 49:05partied have the after party you know and parting with your
- 49:08favorite rapper, you know, and also with having a 92626 job, I
- 49:12do. Yeah, straight.
- 49:14Up like I was doing I just had that energy in me like you love
- 49:18to do? Yeah.
- 49:19Yeah. And so then he cooks me up with
- 49:22criminal he says, hey homie. He's like the show was good.
- 49:26He's like, let's bring criminals to a show and I heard I've I
- 49:31remember him, he's really good. Yeah.
- 49:34Yeah. And at the time, I kind of told
- 49:37him as slow as the smaller towns are we just had a big good act
- 49:42of you. I'm like, just Drop something in
- 49:44November. I think they're kind of good
- 49:47with what they had. I'm like wait this doing next
- 49:50year. I'm like this is not LA or
- 49:52Denver or any other player we just things are popping up every
- 49:54other day. You know, this is like a kind of
- 49:57thing. Yeah, people party on Friday
- 49:59nights that not on a Monday or Tuesday night.
- 50:02This is Nyle a. This is not New York.
- 50:04This is a small town. People go to work.
- 50:06You know what I mean? Have a schedule.
- 50:07I'm trying to explain that to them.
- 50:09Yeah, I'm like it's not when they try his, do it on a Monday
- 50:11or something like. That's not gonna work that way,
- 50:13bro. I'm like yeah.
- 50:14Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, so and the Fridays are tough, you
- 50:17know, the plant Works. No, yeah.
- 50:21So do not try to try to cut it down is that we did a show with
- 50:24criminal on a Thursday? No, no.
- 50:26Okay. That's what I was trying to
- 50:29gamble on. I was trying to gamble on that.
- 50:32Yeah. And I think it still comes back
- 50:35to what I was. They were kind of satisfied with
- 50:37his show because when they get criminal, you get Capone, you
- 50:40can point your criminal, the kind of like going on in the
- 50:43same almost Time. Yeah, so it was like the show
- 50:47wasn't as great as the Capone show was.
- 50:50And I was disappointed on how it was but it was a, it was a
- 50:54learning. It was a lesson.
- 50:55Right? Right now on.
- 50:57But I remember criminal telling me this, I we get in the car.
- 50:59I'm kind of embarrassed by all the show wasn't as packs.
- 51:02I thought it would be and I was kind of like starting to
- 51:04apologize to him right now. Starting to like man.
- 51:07I'm my bad, bro. And he straight up told me he's
- 51:09like, no, don't worry about it, honey.
- 51:11You got heart. It shows that you.
- 51:14Try and I'm like, because I did the best I could and it's just
- 51:17me. Me and my homeboy d.
- 51:18Boy. Dustin.
- 51:19Shout out to. You does them all me.
- 51:21Dear boy, me and him were really operating the shit because
- 51:24Dustin, he helped out a lot. And I mean and a shout-out to 2D
- 51:31boy, man, because he he puts it together, you know what I mean?
- 51:34As far as getting the venue having to talk to different
- 51:37people doing things, you know what I mean?
- 51:39And then we had to be at that time, professional.
- 51:41We really didn't know how to be kind of were stolen.
- 51:44Mentality and and, and, but he really kind of was like the
- 51:47middle man. You know, we got to get you that
- 51:48middleman, you know, and beat the one that says, oh, he's
- 51:51okay. Yeah.
- 51:52He with me. And I mean, and type of thing,
- 51:54you know what I mean? Well, scare a lot of people
- 51:56away. So he kind of helped us with a
- 51:59lot of things on that, on that aspect.
- 52:00Kind of like almost like management, and to a degree, but
- 52:05HR straight up south of dust, and, man job HR.
- 52:11So we do the criminal. So now this was dolt is That we
- 52:14do the show, he goes back to his hotel, go back to my doing my
- 52:18thing, Friday, he has another show in Emporia on Saturday so
- 52:22Friday, he has a day off and he's just in the hotel.
- 52:26And I didn't want to like bug him and he felt the same way you
- 52:30later on. He told me he want to bug us.
- 52:32So we're kind of like at a standstill like no one was
- 52:35hearing nothing from each other, right?
- 52:36Yeah. And then finally, it was like
- 52:37almost 5:00. He hits me up.
- 52:40He's like, it was cracking homey.
- 52:41He text me, right? He's like you forget about I
- 52:44like nah bro. We didn't want to end.
- 52:46We want to intrude. Yeah bother you.
- 52:49And he's like, you felt the same way because he was there was a
- 52:51few of his home, his homeboys and we felt the same way as like
- 52:55let me come through, I went over there.
- 52:57The boy called came with me and brought a six-pack.
- 53:00I bought some weed, you know, we smoked out those motherfuckers.
- 53:03Are they I'll give him like a half hours and it's gone.
- 53:06Like they they they change smoke.
- 53:08I'm like damn like and they're burning they don't give a fuck
- 53:11either in the hotel. Smoking I see criminal.
- 53:13He get a A towel, wet it up. Hey, put it underneath the door
- 53:18right there and just going, you know what I mean?
- 53:20I'm like damn you know, what we do is take notes, take notes,
- 53:25write that down, write that down, but that night when I was
- 53:27visiting him I said, hey you want to come back to my house
- 53:30tonight? I'm like and just chill man,
- 53:32watch me, you know, whatever. Cooking, some food, you know, I
- 53:35got some set of a sighs man. Just chill.
- 53:37Doc and he's like and he's a humble dude.
- 53:40Like he could have been like really, you know, Start, you
- 53:44know, he could have just told me not, you know, almost a motel,
- 53:47but he's like, not, yeah, I'm down to come with you on my art,
- 53:50go over there. So, long story short, he comes
- 53:52over on 11:00 at night, like, I'm like, damn, like I'm over
- 53:55here, like, on purpose. He sat on my iMac.
- 54:04I'm Starstruck I'm a fan. So let's do it in my living
- 54:06room. We have one picture together.
- 54:08You don't need. It's on my Ig one picture
- 54:10together. That's in my house.
- 54:12Yeah we took a my living, right? Want to bombard them with
- 54:14pictures? See if I come on pitcher
- 54:15pitching another one, you signed is Russia - I got some other
- 54:20stuff. I got him on a level like we
- 54:36were talking like, conspiracy theories, aliens for that
- 54:44moment, you know, straight up, you know, and then the next
- 55:01show. The next day, he had a show in
- 55:03Emporia and then he flew back out.
- 55:05So then me and Capone were talking in the works of doing a
- 55:09song and he's like hey you down to do a trick pony was just like
- 55:13had a belief or something. Just had it like he just wanted
- 55:16to. I'm like Sheree man.
- 55:18Let's do it in a cost money. Yeah.
- 55:21To do a truck, my money. And I'm like, no man.
- 55:26Like I don't know. Like shit paying this much money
- 55:29for this and that I'm like, do you want to do it?
- 55:32Music video and shoot it here in Kansas and and he's like hey man
- 55:38get some low riders, get some I'm like this is not Callie for
- 55:41like I find a couple for you, but brother, not flooded over
- 55:45here with that shit, dog. Like you here, bro?
- 55:47Right up F1 fucking I won't come with us on bread or
- 56:06straight up, he's like, hey, when I thought I can't do, no
- 56:08disrespect, I thought cowboys and Indians on me, it's always
- 56:10straight off. Like, damn, that kind of hurt
- 56:12argh. Like, I don't know how to take
- 56:14that. I mean, I took it nicely.
- 56:16I like, yeah. All the time.
- 56:44He did a really good job on that.
- 56:55So, we did the track. Well, first of all, yeah, I
- 57:00know. So, This, what happened is, I
- 57:04was maxed out. I still have my bank account
- 57:08while the way have I been casted.
- 57:13I gotta check in savings and I gotta move the checking in the.
- 57:18I want to say the number one, I gave him.
- 57:19No, no, but I gave him some and I'm like, ooh, so I'm like, I
- 57:24can do the track. I can't do the video and, and I
- 57:28think that sometimes living the lifestyle they live.
- 57:30Yeah, they're used to being around rich people all the time.
- 57:33Yeah, we just met away. Yeah.
- 57:36I'm like I'm trying to come up and I'm like, hey, I'm still
- 57:38struggling. A happy no more.
- 58:03It wasn't like I was excited that Capone's hit me up.
- 58:05I was like it was like a pill was I you know what I mean?
- 58:09Or like electric bills. Annoying girlfriend.
- 58:15Be like that's, that's not on Capone.
- 58:20I was me. I couldn't keep up.
- 58:22You know what I mean? That's being honest.
- 58:23I wouldn't keep it up with what he was wanting me.
- 58:25I'm kind of a perception. Maybe that was getting put out.
- 58:28Yeah, like it straight. It was like you'd wanted to be
- 58:31hard too. It was like I can't show you
- 58:34otherwise right now. I mean, do you want to add more
- 58:3650 or you want to go, right? But no longer.
- 58:39Are we gonna go back to your state?
- 58:41But by me out there, yeah, buy my plane ticket plane ticket by
- 58:46what I'm staying in. Buy me a rental.
- 58:49So we kind of like ended it off there then like so.
- 58:51But okay. So then we're, we would he did
- 58:56shout out to Capone because this dude is a good guy.
- 58:59Like he sent me his verse on the beat.
- 59:03In my ego was playing with me at the time so I don't need to hear
- 59:06your verse I want. I'll wrap you anyway like that.
- 59:08That's on my mind is like when you're a rapper your competitive
- 59:10like that, like I'm Rob like, in my head, I was going to allow
- 59:13trap him and criminal like that's how I was thinking, even
- 59:17though I know our no fucking way without wrapping criminal, he
- 59:20was going to slaughter me. I already knew but my mentality
- 59:24is, I'm going in swinging, you know, that mentality.
- 59:27Yeah. So Capone's.
- 59:29But you send me the beat that he was going to use and it's on
- 59:31YouTube. Right now, caponi, featuring
- 59:33smokes. Okay, mr.
- 59:34Criminal called cutie. Pie cutie pie.
- 59:38You the reason why you know? Yeah, the old, he had an old
- 59:41school jam. It was for his album, 2013
- 59:44oldies for life and help them that came out to on that album
- 59:47that song we did another show. So he sent me that I wrote my
- 59:54verse. I recorded it.
- 59:55I sent it back to him and he's planning to have Criminal on it.
- 59:59Well, we have a show in Omaha. Nebraska, this is like our
- 1:00:04fourth or fifth like a for show Capone.
- 1:00:06Now, this time, it's with caponi and Criminal on stage, we got
- 1:00:10invited. It wasn't a show that we were
- 1:00:12throwing it was I think it was ability.
- 1:00:13Kid show, shouts ability, kid, it was his show Capone's like
- 1:00:17since we did business with him and kind of like a little
- 1:00:19relationship. He, he sent me CDs like boxes of
- 1:00:22see the 100, see that's how much trustee had in me, can I?
- 1:00:25Hey, homies on the poor bus? Needs to re-up on CDs.
- 1:00:27Almost, send it to your address. Is that cool?
- 1:00:28Like that's cool. I couldn't just did it.
- 1:00:30Run it, you know, but we have like a little trust thing is
- 1:00:35cool, but he, hey, um, no actually, okay.
- 1:00:39That that before that he invited us to a show in Denver and
- 1:00:44Aurora and that was dope. That ik.
- 1:00:48I don't know if you ever seen the movie Rock Star with Mark
- 1:00:50Wahlberg don't ever check that out.
- 1:00:52One day. Anyways it's you're living your
- 1:00:55your your your fantasy all one night, right?
- 1:01:00So, This was dope, this is a dope-ass story.
- 1:01:02He's a a we having to show another kind of Christmas type
- 1:01:06of show in Denver y'all want to come King algae's on the flyer
- 1:01:09and and Kindle G was just coming out at that time.
- 1:01:12As king little G. He was always a little G but now
- 1:01:14he's coming back out with a suicidal stuff and and he was
- 1:01:20opening up for him. So component was like, hey, you
- 1:01:22want to come on the show? I'm invited you on whatever I
- 1:01:24told him that. Hey, I got some fools Duck
- 1:01:27Phillips lat. And we're like, we're down.
- 1:01:29Like let's go. So We all needy boy.
- 1:01:32My sister likes to roll coming on my all right, little sibling
- 1:01:39with yeah. Like you can't go unless you
- 1:01:41take your sister with you, your jars, a t-shirt you hold the
- 1:01:46Box, you know, but not so we all mopped up over there to Denver,
- 1:01:50and this was a dope night. It wasn't a night like the
- 1:01:52Kansas life. It was this was where fucking in
- 1:01:55the city. We, we weren't going to spend on
- 1:01:59crazy money on the shirts and so, We got like a holiday and we
- 1:02:01got some or we got something there, right the shirt?
- 1:02:04Yeah yeah. Yeah.
- 1:02:07I swear to God, I mean, you had to sleep somewhere, she is
- 1:02:12straight up, we're driving over there.
- 1:02:15Capone was like, I'm just the point of these stories are dull
- 1:02:18because it just shows the dedication.
- 1:02:20It shows the drive and grind, no matter what.
- 1:02:22No matter if why you wasting your time, going out there for
- 1:02:25copper on and stuff like that. I got going anyway.
- 1:02:27No matter what? Like yeah, it shows like
- 1:02:30dedicated. Don't we go out there Capone's
- 1:02:33like hey meet me up in the lobby at the Sheridan.
- 1:02:36I'm like cool. We walking upright, we see this
- 1:02:39big stretch limo and I'm not thinking anything.
- 1:02:41I think it is probably like a wedding party or something.
- 1:02:43Right. And the valet area, big stretch
- 1:02:45limo we walk in by the back doors open and I hear, Hey
- 1:02:49homies, know it. Yeah.
- 1:03:15To a degree like high school. It's also they got some Sunday
- 1:03:18already, right? Right.
- 1:03:19They got some seniority. They know each other, we're new
- 1:03:22guys, right? Capone he's just bringing some
- 1:03:23new dues. Wicket knows us from from being
- 1:03:26around, so Wix being a humble. Good dude that he is.
- 1:03:31Didn't act bougie, then act like he ain't.
- 1:03:33No, has he? He's like, I'm sitting up in the
- 1:03:35front with my sick and twisted home.
- 1:03:37He's like, yeah, you know, she was little bougie.
- 1:03:43Yeah, Virginia Slims really just looking at, you know, that Vibe
- 1:03:50she had her little crew that just kissed her ass.
- 1:03:52Yeah. And being real.
- 1:03:56So we drop everyone off at the valve out at the venue because
- 1:03:59lady Pink's is going to perform. Yeah.
- 1:04:00And then saw her merge. We're going back.
- 1:04:03We're going back with the homie script low and I think Wicked
- 1:04:06was coming with not. I'm not sure if he was with us
- 1:04:08but we're going back to the hotel, we're waiting.
- 1:04:11I see Capone come running out and you barely see that full
- 1:04:15without his glasses, slopes on top of his head.
- 1:04:19And and I saw him, he had those like that, that that sharp look
- 1:04:24like. I don't know, like, spooky you
- 1:04:26were in trouble. No, no, no.
- 1:04:28It's look like okay. By where you can't figure him
- 1:04:31out. No goddamn lights, bright stoic,
- 1:04:34very very and he was just look at you, but it's like cold.
- 1:04:37Like like you're like, was he laughing?
- 1:04:40Or was he not? Yeah.
- 1:04:41He's like my dad used to give me that look back on.
- 1:04:47Good, good, good homey. But caponi does give you the
- 1:04:50vibe where you can't bullshit him.
- 1:04:51Hmm, don't try to bullshit him. Yeah.
- 1:04:54And if you are bullshitting I'll let you know.
- 1:04:56But you kind of know he knows. Yeah look at you just you'll
- 1:04:59pause. He won't answer you out of way,
- 1:05:02like hated it. Okay.
- 1:05:04So, you know, it's not like, he's thinking, yeah, yeah.
- 1:05:07And you just can't fool that duties.
- 1:05:09Be dealt with a lot of people. Yeah.
- 1:05:11But he comes the limo with us. He shakes our hands, we're
- 1:05:13having fun. We did a opening up beforehand.
- 1:05:17We did a on stage and there's a lot of surenos out there, a lot
- 1:05:21of homeboys out there. And it was love, you know, but
- 1:05:23they were trying to sell us high-power CDs because they were
- 1:05:25trying to be affiliated with like certain foods.
- 1:05:27You didn't know that. I know caponi personally.
- 1:05:30Ein to these homies like you like like his credit card
- 1:05:41straight electric payments car payments.
- 1:05:45I don't you know. Yeah.
- 1:05:49Man, I'm the guy. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:05:52So I'm financially backing him, you know, but but but they they
- 1:05:57were trying to tell us he's with, and we're like, no, no,
- 1:05:58we're good. We're good.
- 1:06:00We do our show. It was vibing.
- 1:06:02We have video footage of all at mohammadi boy.
- 1:06:04He has, we have all that footage, so it's not some shit.
- 1:06:07I, we have all the big see. He has all that footage.
- 1:06:10We have everything, we documented everything.
- 1:06:12We Mo most, men like a mini documentary like a 30-minute
- 1:06:15little video for us like to watch for in the hotel's to Two
- 1:06:19shows we had like a little collage of everything, you know,
- 1:06:21it was really dope but when we did our show a sinking little G
- 1:06:26walking in with his little art but you know, I didn't really
- 1:06:29care for him at that time, I'll just wanted to go rush for
- 1:06:31Capone in the rest of the crowd. So I did medical poem came back.
- 1:06:34When we got out of the limo is he had although other homeboys
- 1:06:38with him wrong limo and Capone he's like y'all go out first you
- 1:06:42know, he's gonna go out last, he's like kind of pushing this
- 1:06:44bra walking through the limo trying to get out.
- 1:06:46Yeah, and the homies that we're trying SolarCity is earlier than
- 1:06:49I saw us get up and like, oh shit, like you with the Army
- 1:06:53like that and I was our little Fame moment like yeah.
- 1:06:56Yes, I am like, yes. I know that guy that, that is me
- 1:07:04your little hair, right? It was dope because we going to
- 1:07:14the VIP I'm sitting right next to caponi.
- 1:07:17Like, literally lard. Legs are touching either on the
- 1:07:19same way. I like a wrap-around couch.
- 1:07:21I love that. You're like he touched my
- 1:07:23straight up. I'm Fanning out.
- 1:07:24You know, that's that's just being 100 like we're sitting
- 1:07:27right next to each other lady pinks and her home girls are,
- 1:07:30they're Rollin Blunts and shit and and they're passing it
- 1:07:32around and the owner of the vineyard because we just became
- 1:07:36legal out there. Like, 2013, a just B12, a just
- 1:07:39became legal, but still had it like it wasn't like, okay, all,
- 1:07:43you know everywhere? So, yes, the owner, he was like,
- 1:07:46yeah, it's all good. You know what I mean?
- 1:07:47And some owners would All's, you know.
- 1:07:49Yeah he's like nah that's cool. And then people are coming into
- 1:07:52the VIP just do taking pictures of Capone.
- 1:07:54Capone kept getting up taking pictures.
- 1:07:57I just, I'm standing right here. Just watching it.
- 1:07:59Like yeah, soaking it up. Like wow.
- 1:08:00Like this is going down. Yeah, like, I can't believe I'm
- 1:08:03in this moment right now. Great up.
- 1:08:05Like I'm like, I'm like this. We have brief moments.
- 1:08:07Me and my brother, me and my homie, where we just look at
- 1:08:09each other, really. Look at me, like we just look at
- 1:08:12it. We had that moment like, yeah,
- 1:08:14like that. We do that.
- 1:08:17We go back to life. as far as we got back in the
- 1:08:46limo, everyone's in the living room, Everybody and then we had
- 1:08:50like a caravan a like different cars behind the limo trying to
- 1:08:54follow us. There was a bunch of girls and
- 1:08:56stuff, you know, stuff like that.
- 1:08:58Like I'm going back to tell you, we have five rent, or they had
- 1:09:02five rented rooms out at the Sheridan.
- 1:09:05So, there were just bringing random people from the fucking
- 1:09:07lot, or I feel like the hallways, like, people were like
- 1:09:10getting drunk in the hallway, there, like rich people, a like,
- 1:09:13like they like shampoo. It was something.
- 1:09:14Something was going on that night.
- 1:09:15Like, yeah, they're in the hallways drinking like anyone
- 1:09:17coming apart, He come through like yeah.
- 1:09:19Yeah, party cool. And it's so crazy.
- 1:09:22How a star is a magnet. So the poem you see this crowd
- 1:09:26just going wherever he's going. So when he goes into the
- 1:09:28elevator, everyone's trying to cram in the elevator questions
- 1:09:31about the Buckle. It was kind of like a little
- 1:09:35Shake paws like hey y'all need some of y'all need to go into
- 1:09:38the other elevator like and we all went upstairs.
- 1:09:42Had fun a little party, it was cool.
- 1:09:45It was a go to sleep till like 6:00 in the morning.
- 1:09:47You know that night, you know what I mean.
- 1:09:48It was a Vibe, you know. Yeah.
- 1:09:50So speaking of parties not to completely pause you but we
- 1:09:54haven't made you your drink yet. Oh yeah, yeah.
- 1:09:57And we got to keep your party rolling.
- 1:09:59Let's do it. And so we're going to do a quick
- 1:10:01break. We're we're going to come back
- 1:10:03to continue talking about the party, but also we want to like
- 1:10:06hear a little bit more about like like what influences your
- 1:10:11music like what's your artistic Vision?
- 1:10:13Stuff like that? Yeah, we'll get into that.
- 1:10:15And so for this segment appears to you, Are going to have a
- 1:10:18mocktail. Yes, A mocktail guys.
- 1:10:20So stay tuned. What, what?
- 1:11:08A back on the Block and it was hot.
- 1:11:10Now, Jacques was my style now smokes coming out, straight from
- 1:11:19the gutter. Now, I'm in your face name.
- 1:11:21The time named the place, we in the club.
- 1:11:24With my bunch of my thugs. Yeah, we used to sell them
- 1:11:27drugs, but I'm Legit now. And I'm here.
- 1:11:30It now all these motherfuckers and now, we're gonna straight
- 1:11:33clown on your punk ass. Gonna do it fast.
- 1:11:36Get a nine-to-five, trying to get my cast uh hard to trying to
- 1:11:40throw up, huh? Trying to give a fuck trying to
- 1:11:45give it a little something motherfuckers.
- 1:11:47Know, I can for nothing. What eyes bloodshot?
- 1:11:51Cause I smoke daily fools. Look at me and see.
- 1:11:53I say I'm crazy. I keep doing it going for my
- 1:11:56bag, motherfuckers know. I'm here in ever drag.
- 1:12:00I'm on a mission in another position.
- 1:12:02Everybody know me stop and listen that I'm a hot hot boy.
- 1:12:06Motherfuckers know. I'm here to make noise.
- 1:12:08Yeah, I'm here with the big toys.
- 1:12:10Uh straighten your block straight in your house, straight
- 1:12:14in your mouth. Yeah, spitting.
- 1:12:17The things. You know about that some oke
- 1:12:20then I'm out what a way to get it.
- 1:12:25Is back from our break here. Welcome back to hear, see you
- 1:12:27that podcast. That was good.
- 1:12:33Shout out to smokes right there. Is going so Katie why is smoke
- 1:12:41so excited? He just had a mocktail.
- 1:12:46Coconut Summer Night strength, my bombs and bomb.
- 1:12:52My name is Katie. I am bringing more.
- 1:12:54Hi, bro. DJ at Lee's blood, sister with
- 1:12:59the rat tail is in town. We got to listen to last week's
- 1:13:04episode, they were hardcore hitting on my rat tail.
- 1:13:08Mind you, my rattle is fire as F.
- 1:13:11She's here to help us introduce a drink for the segment Framily.
- 1:13:17Yes, I have the mocktail. Coconut summer nights are AVG.
- 1:13:22Mix it with the ingredients of one.
- 1:13:25Lime. Freshly Juiced point, 75 ounces
- 1:13:30of agave syrup splash of water, add your ice, give it that nice.
- 1:13:37Nice little shake. Shake shake with a coconut
- 1:13:41flavored Lacroix garnish with a slice of lime.
- 1:13:45Hmm. Emilio says, it's what bomb?
- 1:13:52Thank you, thank you, Katie for telling me.
- 1:13:54Thank you, Allah 123. You gotta be getting there.
- 1:13:59Well, you guys you heard of Katie.
- 1:14:00Yes, I did make a drink. It's a mocktail, drink just for
- 1:14:04mr. Smokes here.
- 1:14:05Yes, because some of days Is sending around when the Sun goes
- 1:14:09down 2005. I'm 16 years old.
- 1:14:16That's all came out. Yeah, I had to say that you
- 1:14:21guys. I just had to the great.
- 1:14:23That was good. Damn.
- 1:14:25Emily's about to start rapping to.
- 1:14:28Hey, we gotta, we gotta start a group thing is right.
- 1:14:31There's gonna be a whole group coming back.
- 1:14:33No, but we're excited to continue listening to a little
- 1:14:36bit about your story. But one thing we got to ask.
- 1:14:40So, do you drive a lowrider? No, okay, I don't have that
- 1:14:45money. Okay.
- 1:14:46No. Yeah, cuz I have patients even
- 1:14:48Bill one. Well, also laughs.
- 1:14:49You're you're mr. About tell you a story, the
- 1:14:51card. But I exactly.
- 1:14:54So your story. I'm gonna be my credit card, to
- 1:15:00my homeboy slick. He's from East Los.
- 1:15:02And he he came over to Selena, right?
- 1:15:07And a lot of Migrate to that town, you know, from, you know,
- 1:15:10it's those highways, you know, people a lot of migration, I
- 1:15:12mean, different people, you know what I mean?
- 1:15:15And he's straight G with it. You know, I bet on and he got
- 1:15:20like a cigar eagle or something like that.
- 1:15:23Sorry, slick. If I got it wrong, there's like
- 1:15:25a Regal or something. I want to say Cutlass.
- 1:15:28My name is a Regal, he had a green, the fucking Dayton's on
- 1:15:32it. Yeah and he just put some fresh.
- 1:15:33You just put some Hydro hydraulics on it so he's like a
- 1:15:37fool. You are To go for a ride and I'm
- 1:15:39like, man, you know, it's too cool for Selena.
- 1:15:41Yeah, going down. Crawford hitting switches at the
- 1:15:49stop sign. People are actually showing
- 1:15:51love. Like they're honking their horns
- 1:15:53at us like because I never see that shit.
- 1:15:55So, and we went to the parking lot of Dylan's and kind of did
- 1:15:59like a little hop in there and took pictures with it.
- 1:16:01And he never really, I think he sold it now.
- 1:16:03But he had it and then my other homeboy by also had a I think it
- 1:16:08was a Buick, but it looked like a Impala, a 64 Impala, like it
- 1:16:11was bad ass at the Dayton's and everything on it, but he never
- 1:16:14got hydros. Sorry time.
- 1:16:16He hit that curve. Hit that car.
- 1:16:29Also one more thing. Yeah.
- 1:16:31How many Dickies and Cortez's do you have?
- 1:16:33Um, I have a say about Two pair of khaki shorts.
- 1:16:39I don't really wear the Dickey pants no more.
- 1:16:40That's not really for me. I kind of.
- 1:16:42That's nice. You know, you retired retired
- 1:16:44those but I think about bringing them back, you know, but I never
- 1:16:47wore Dicky. So I were Ben Davis.
- 1:16:50Okay, I had to bend a, I swear to fucking God, I was at the end
- 1:16:54of the other day and I was looking at someone else.
- 1:16:58Yeah. Like man, I'm gonna get those
- 1:16:59down. Yeah, I was watching training
- 1:17:03days other day and the bottle at the end at those nice tan ones.
- 1:17:06I was like that. Maybe I should look hard to.
- 1:17:08I like, man, I gotta bring those bitches back.
- 1:17:10There's lots of coming back, just bring it back, bring it
- 1:17:13back, it's coming back, straight up, you know.
- 1:17:16Yeah, but you know, and so right now, as far as pants, I don't
- 1:17:18own any. I want to pair of Levi's.
- 1:17:21And then these jeans right here, dog, these are made in prison.
- 1:17:25Yeah, these are called prison blue.
- 1:17:27There they say, Sell them out. I think that.
- 1:17:29Are you talking? Because they blue blue, that's
- 1:17:31why they wear them in there? You know what I'm saying?
- 1:17:36Get that money and the whole meatballs.
- 1:17:37Oh, he saw these jeans. We had to show him.
- 1:17:40He's like man those are fucking bad-ass genes for he's telling
- 1:17:42my homie. Big see about that was a badass
- 1:17:43cheese. Like yeah.
- 1:17:44Get those signals in the beneath our dark and it's called prism
- 1:17:49bloom in their little slogan. Thing is made on the inside of
- 1:17:52be worn on the outside. That's a little thing and they
- 1:17:55sell them out of Walmart out of whatever prison.
- 1:17:58That area. Yeah, but then I have to order
- 1:18:00them online. Get them over here.
- 1:18:01That's crazy. Even my prison clothes make you
- 1:18:03look fashionable, man. So, what about the Cortez's?
- 1:18:08Oh, so the Cortez's I got these white ones on right now.
- 1:18:12Yeah, I got a pair of black ones that I kind of retired.
- 1:18:14I kind of use them as like my cutting grass shoes.
- 1:18:18Although you know what I mean? And stuff like that, you know,
- 1:18:21everything thing. But they're very, very hard to
- 1:18:24come by right now. They're very hard to find Court.
- 1:18:27Des has, you know? So I just got really to to pair
- 1:18:30right now, and for the first time since high school, it was
- 1:18:33like, six months ago. I bought some Chucks.
- 1:18:35Mmm, you know, black stream blue.
- 1:18:37It was nice. You know, but I'm not really a
- 1:18:40Chuck guy. Like, I feel like, I feel I feel
- 1:18:44to lounged out on my truck. I feel like I Gotta Wear that on
- 1:18:47allows I don't feel was, I don't know, pampered.
- 1:18:50Yeah, I feel like, I don't know. It's not, it's not my thing.
- 1:18:52I and then I got some Stacy's, you know, I bustles out on a
- 1:18:56while. Some Stacy Adams, you know,
- 1:18:58Yeah, I like wearing those. I'm starting to, you know, I'm
- 1:19:00starting to notice. I'm starting to become an old
- 1:19:02man. I'm starting like old man close.
- 1:19:04I'm sorry, I like it, like, like the for the bottles.
- 1:19:07So, like, I see him. We're like, the Fedora has or
- 1:19:10the brims more. I'm attracted to that more.
- 1:19:13I'm attracted to another class of your style of it, but it's
- 1:19:16growing because fashion comes and goes, but Styles forever,
- 1:19:19you know. So I grow with the style.
- 1:19:21I don't change my style. Yeah, but I tell you what last
- 1:19:25year, I thought about getting some Ball Toss.
- 1:19:27Oh yeah. Oh, shut up boss, that out.
- 1:19:31You know what I mean? And and switch it up.
- 1:19:38You gotta go over to cappadonna see where I was.
- 1:19:41Oh yeah, it happened. I don't know.
- 1:19:42I haven't been yet. I want to know no, but I did
- 1:19:46hear. He was popping.
- 1:19:48I looked it up the other day I was like what is that?
- 1:19:50Put it's called camarones, you vagos and I was like I'm gonna
- 1:19:54go there like what the fuck and then I ran And to Ted over at
- 1:20:00the gym. Oh yeah.
- 1:20:03And he was telling me about going there and I was just like
- 1:20:06and he was telling me he was like, dude, it was actually
- 1:20:08really cool like obviously, you know, like your Regional music
- 1:20:11and all that and I was just like I need to go check it out
- 1:20:13because I haven't gone yet. But yeah like they joke about me
- 1:20:17being on the ranch. So I have my wealth.
- 1:20:18Has I have all that stuff. I'm like yeah I do listen to it.
- 1:20:22It's not as much. I don't joke about it but I mean
- 1:20:25because she her family does it happen?
- 1:20:27They have a run chose well. And then me when I first met
- 1:20:33Fanny, we were she also. Hey, let me have your numbers
- 1:20:36like way bag. And then like it says something,
- 1:20:39it says her her Poncho. Nobody thought, yes.
- 1:20:41And as I, what the fuck is this? It's me.
- 1:20:46I was like, okay, it's because our lines, our business line.
- 1:20:48Yes, like I have her down as Fanny.
- 1:20:52Rancho funny though, with her little brother for the long.
- 1:20:56He saved my name in his phone. Fanny at Rancho to is it Emily
- 1:21:01was like, why do you have Fanny's name like that?
- 1:21:03And then she's like he's like is that her last name?
- 1:21:10But yeah. Anyways, back to you, yes, we're
- 1:21:14asking these questions because, you know, we just named some
- 1:21:17stereotypes right? Like, obviously, but like in all
- 1:21:20seriousness, we want to we want to hear about like, some of the
- 1:21:23misconceptions about chicken or top rappers and how do You work
- 1:21:28to combat those stereotypes. Hmm.
- 1:21:31Well that's a tongue twister. Huh?
- 1:21:35Pick your brain. How can I answer?
- 1:21:39Like, here's the thing. Is that one thing I like about
- 1:21:45our style is that there's people behind these clothes.
- 1:21:49I have great hearts of the people that behind the style
- 1:21:52that are really intelligent people bright people.
- 1:21:57So I think the misconception is, is I, when you see up at Lon,
- 1:22:01you see someone dressed up in a steel.
- 1:22:03All you automatically think gang member.
- 1:22:06Yeah, you automatically. A prison, you know, or whatever
- 1:22:11the fuck. I can't help that, I can't help.
- 1:22:13That's what you think. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:22:16I know who I am. I know what it is, but I can
- 1:22:20honestly say, I've never been to prison.
- 1:22:22You know what I'm saying? I did enough time in jail that I
- 1:22:25was like I'll fuck that. You know what I mean?
- 1:22:27I don't want that. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:22:31So I why is the really young? You know what I'm saying?
- 1:22:34But I was so stupid at the same time so I was still doing
- 1:22:36things. Stupid things but knowing my
- 1:22:40intention deep down was to get out of that.
- 1:22:43So like right now as we speak is like the stereotypes of rappers
- 1:22:49are whatever it is, I can't really say cuz I kind of like
- 1:22:52the stereotyping in a way I kind of indulge in it, that's me.
- 1:22:56Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:22:57I embrace who I am, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:22:59And I'm proud of it, you know? Because a lot of people like to
- 1:23:02escape what they were born as and become something else.
- 1:23:05They're not but check yourself. Yeah.
- 1:23:09And I can get deep on that. I study Islam.
- 1:23:11I study most honorable Elijah Muhammad, I study Malcolm.
- 1:23:15I studied the grace, trust me I know.
- 1:23:18So when I have certain knowledge gave me dignity it made me
- 1:23:23upright. And but at the same time knowing
- 1:23:26myself and knowing that I'm a righteous person, it made me
- 1:23:30that much more like a permitted myself much more to dress the
- 1:23:33way I want. Yeah you don't have to yeah,
- 1:23:35whoever I want because I know me.
- 1:23:37I know what time it is. Only person that you is you.
- 1:23:40Yes. Yeah.
- 1:23:41You ain't paying my fucking bill like Magnum saying, they're only
- 1:23:44paying yours, and mr. Caponi and this capucho Bank on
- 1:23:50that. Hey, mr.
- 1:23:51Capone tell me how you do it. I just want to know, but yeah, I
- 1:23:57always tell everybody. The only person got you is you
- 1:24:00don't you, you gotta do you for yourself.
- 1:24:02That's it. Yeah, because like when sister I
- 1:24:05kept trying to figure out how to answer that I'm like but I like
- 1:24:09The Stereotype me all you want on that motherfucker but you
- 1:24:12know because I know I know what's not.
- 1:24:15What's true and what's not true? Yeah.
- 1:24:17I know what the deal is, you know what I mean?
- 1:24:19I tend to, I feel like the best thing, it gives me feeling good
- 1:24:25or content is knowledge. Yeah, Noni true knowledge.
- 1:24:28Truth. So like when I study it and I
- 1:24:31feel better, I walk upright, I can look at anyone's face cause
- 1:24:35I used to have really insecurities Going into
- 1:24:39civilized situations because I was so used to living in a crazy
- 1:24:43situation like you know what I mean?
- 1:24:46But I always know I was capable, you know, of tapping into that,
- 1:24:50you know what? So yeah, I don't know, long
- 1:24:54story short on that the stereotypes and all that stuff
- 1:24:56man. I embrace it man, fuck it.
- 1:24:58I am who I am and take it or leave it.
- 1:25:00You know I'm saying? Because once you don't judge a
- 1:25:03book by it's cover, you have a talk.
- 1:25:04When we sit down, sit down to that the mess.
- 1:25:06I wouldn't want to want to chop it up.
- 1:25:07And I'm going to let you know, I love it.
- 1:25:09I love it or listen to episode 33 on here.
- 1:25:12See you Cassie. That's right.
- 1:25:13So how how has your Chicano Heritage influence your music
- 1:25:18and your artistic Vision as well?
- 1:25:22You know, like, you know, we were coming back into, like,
- 1:25:24embracing stereotypes and like, not letting that really Define
- 1:25:27you and knowing who you are. So tell us a little bit about
- 1:25:30how you bring, that one thing, back through all the thing, back
- 1:25:32in the day, I did a lot of that, which kind of sucks for now,
- 1:25:35when I'm trying to come back out like not sucks, but back in the
- 1:25:38day, all of my writing was just about to go no pride in a way
- 1:25:44but but more so than just that it was more on a gangster level.
- 1:25:47So I was dropping about things. And one thing I really Is that
- 1:25:52you can manifest things that you rap about and it's not good.
- 1:25:55Like, like, you can write things, that's probably not
- 1:25:57really happening right now. You just sounds good and it
- 1:25:59starts coming to same thing. Happened to Tupac and stuff,
- 1:26:02like it happens like you start writing and it's coming
- 1:26:05manifesting and like what is I gotta stop writing like that.
- 1:26:10I saw her caponi say one time. He's like That's Mike are doing
- 1:26:12love jams. He's like I don't want to keep
- 1:26:14rapping about that because it attracts a certain thing, you
- 1:26:16know, he's like want to kind of chill, you know.
- 1:26:19But but I used to rap, you know. Representing.
- 1:26:22You know, my poop on your Cortez this that you know Lokes.
- 1:26:26You know, letting you know when I'm wearing my my quantities,
- 1:26:29you know I'm I'm all this that you know, it was all that little
- 1:26:32ego. Little mozzarella cheese was all
- 1:26:34bullshit, you know. And once you grow up and
- 1:26:36dissolve your ego and you realize, I was bullshit, you
- 1:26:39know? And but but it's still very
- 1:26:43real. This is something like I'm still
- 1:26:44from that lineage. So it's like still very real
- 1:26:47like so if I go to like Denver that's straight up that's that's
- 1:26:51that's Like I had experienced a few years back and I would lot
- 1:26:55of those fools in there and the other side and they were
- 1:26:59repping, you know what I mean? And I'm not here trying to get a
- 1:27:02little crazy shit. I'm a grown-ass, man, I'm here.
- 1:27:04Just try to get some shoes chilling.
- 1:27:05Yeah, we're enjoying the mall. Yeah, but it was during covid
- 1:27:09and my naive dumbass had a mask. I was Blue pond, you, and I'm
- 1:27:15walking through, and these fools are all mad.
- 1:27:17I'm mad dogging to. Yeah, and just chill mine a
- 1:27:20punk, but deep down, I The fuck out of.
- 1:27:22Yeah, I know, bitch, but right now I'm head on out people,
- 1:27:33people, people test you in the homey.
- 1:27:34Little Rob is a grown out, he's chill.
- 1:27:36The most Killers do, but fools will still try to come up
- 1:27:38sometimes, you know, and it's like, I'm not like that, but but
- 1:27:42you kind of come from a lineage, you know what I mean?
- 1:27:44And you got some stupid fools. That that's why I don't go out.
- 1:27:47Best place is my house. You know what I mean?
- 1:27:49I kind of been burnt out. I've been there done that.
- 1:27:51I You did this by it. So I mean you got to stay there.
- 1:27:55I just want to make that investment and enjoying that
- 1:27:58payment on that pavement. I'm going to turn off my lights
- 1:28:01off and on because I can't join that lights.
- 1:28:05They wanted that 76. I'm putting at 75.
- 1:28:12I got someone to mow my yard. She rich rich like that.
- 1:28:16She's mr. Caponi right there.
- 1:28:22That's when you made her in the world when you can finally get
- 1:28:25someone that is true. But with with kind of answering
- 1:28:30that with and then also a music, I'm going to wrap it up with
- 1:28:33that little story of. So we do the song cutie pie.
- 1:28:38Hmm. Then life happens.
- 1:28:44He broke me. So so I was like, man, like I
- 1:28:48had to go, wait, did you just refer to Life as a he No, I
- 1:28:53don't think so. Did I if I know what I mean?
- 1:28:55He, I meant. I'm kidding.
- 1:29:01I keep dropping that one. Basically.
- 1:29:03I kind of like and it was all because we're trying to do stuff
- 1:29:07too. Like he was trying to get a
- 1:29:08booth really gonna move forward with it, but it was just like,
- 1:29:12man, I had to regroup, I had things in my personal life out
- 1:29:15of regroup and figure out re-evaluate, you don't mean
- 1:29:18that's good, like, you know, you have to step back, if it's
- 1:29:20something really important you just have to Tell them to be
- 1:29:23like, look, I gotta step back for a little bit bro.
- 1:29:25Yeah, so but can lowrider somewhere, not me?
- 1:29:28Yeah. So basically, like how it
- 1:29:30happened, just because I can talk for hours for the on this
- 1:29:33type of subjects, but I'm just trying to keep it short.
- 1:29:35As I know it's getting late is that during that time figuring
- 1:29:41shit out 2015. My boy Big C moves the hutch
- 1:29:46because it's just getting away from bullshit.
- 1:29:49You know, a lot of Street shit I was going on whatever politics.
- 1:29:52He's like getting the fuck out of here.
- 1:29:54He moves, mmm. And then a few years later, I
- 1:29:57moved to Hutch, right? So I went through a split or
- 1:30:01whatever, and then I moved over to Hutch.
- 1:30:05I'm regrouping this whole time. Right?
- 1:30:07I don't I can't be creative, but I'm trying to get my life back
- 1:30:10together so you know, the more comfortable you are the more
- 1:30:13creative you can be, you know, and I wasn't comfortable.
- 1:30:15So I couldn't just live in my home.
- 1:30:17Boy, I moved in with him for like, six months and and shouts,
- 1:30:21big see, you know, And his wife might let me live with them for
- 1:30:25like six months. I couldn't record their, I
- 1:30:28couldn't do anything. I thought I had to get the fuck
- 1:30:30out of here. I had to do, I had to get my
- 1:30:32life right, you know. So during this time I save him
- 1:30:362017 to now big seeing a sister who kind of like just carrying
- 1:30:42it on and doing shows when they can drop in videos.
- 1:30:45They've had like four or five videos up right now.
- 1:30:48They're doing their thing, you know.
- 1:30:50And Lesson. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:30:53God bless, you know, I'm a whole Nobody by you do your thing.
- 1:30:56So they did another show with criminal and then they have mr.
- 1:30:59Shadow there with them, a little wet.
- 1:31:00They were there with them there in Kansas City.
- 1:31:02Yeah. With the Florencia fools and a
- 1:31:05lot of fools out there anyways. But they without all those shows
- 1:31:12were done without me. The last show I did in 2017.
- 1:31:16I first moved to Hutch that September.
- 1:31:19We had a show a little Rob, a little Rob.
- 1:31:21He opened at the State fairgrounds and Hutch.
- 1:31:23Oh yeah, and and we opened up for him.
- 1:31:26Yeah, you know, and it was dope. I regret not getting a picture
- 1:31:29with him. I was, I was sprung on something
- 1:31:32else that night, right? I'm like, you know, being denied
- 1:31:35every time I see him another dose, I straight-up said out
- 1:31:40loud. Hot catch them another day.
- 1:31:52Everything a base. He's like a, you remember this
- 1:31:54date? Why you did it all, y'all, you
- 1:31:56left your girlfriend, like, you don't remember?
- 1:32:02I remember this day without that, we did that show and then
- 1:32:08that was it kind of went dead. The music went dead.
- 1:32:10I know he was carrying it on him and the sister and then it
- 1:32:14wasn't till because I've been working doing my thing.
- 1:32:19Just like I said, got a house. I got stabbed Bility back in my
- 1:32:23life. You know what I mean?
- 1:32:24I've added, I had to own up to a lot of things, that's why I
- 1:32:26discovered, you know, religion of Islam.
- 1:32:29And I had a practice that for myself.
- 1:32:31That's I don't really speak on that too much, as you know, it's
- 1:32:34private for me, but that's what got me right, was that?
- 1:32:37Because because I started feeling there's only so much we
- 1:32:40can do or alcohol or anything else can do than it's like I'm
- 1:32:43feeling a void, what's going on here.
- 1:32:45And then I had a search and re-evaluate and then it woken
- 1:32:49something in me and I felt like I don't need this You know I
- 1:32:53don't I don't need it. I used to get depressed if I
- 1:32:55like know if I like this. Yeah.
- 1:32:58How sad you know what? It was something I had to
- 1:32:59change. So after doing these changes and
- 1:33:03studying what I studies, what now I'm comfortable.
- 1:33:06Yeah now I'm good for you. Oh yeah it's space to where I
- 1:33:10want to do music video. Yeah so I've been telling my
- 1:33:12homie Big C and his sister for years for years.
- 1:33:15I've been planning to go solo. I want to do a solo, nothing
- 1:33:18wrong with that, you know what I mean?
- 1:33:19Like if you're an artist, it's all of youse are Artist got to
- 1:33:22do what you got to do, you know? And and I've been saying this is
- 1:33:25what the first video of me coming out.
- 1:33:28Was this, you know, but I still have to show my sick and twisted
- 1:33:31lineage in there. Like like I'm still I'm still
- 1:33:34grateful for this where I come from but it's time for me to
- 1:33:38move on. You know what I mean?
- 1:33:39And as no no hate against nobody is nothing like that.
- 1:33:42It's just I gotta do what I gotta do for sure me.
- 1:33:45And also I have more say so. And what I want to do.
- 1:33:48Yeah. And I'm saying I'll have to so
- 1:33:50dusty just pulled up. Yeah.
- 1:33:52Your last single. Okay, I'm you can find this on
- 1:33:55YouTube, it's called smokes on your way, are on.
- 1:33:59Yeah, on your way. I don't know why.
- 1:34:00I read that wrong smokes on your way.
- 1:34:02Smoke, 07 850. There you go.
- 1:34:04Subscribe to the channel. Yeah.
- 1:34:11You know, what time is motherfuckers?
- 1:34:19That's right. Guess who's back yet?
- 1:34:34Back on the same, been collecting my thoughts.
- 1:34:37Understanding what they mean? Shit, you gotta get with it.
- 1:34:39I watch socks fit it, they're down.
- 1:34:41I admit it, and it still sick and twisted been working my ass
- 1:34:44off for years. And it seems after the Smoke
- 1:34:46Clears, get it. Let's smoke.
- 1:34:48Clear, lot of growing up to do working on me because my ex girl
- 1:34:52said, And I'm acting sooo fucking G, just picture that
- 1:34:55like, what the fuck puffing on these white girls here?
- 1:34:57Never these bus. What do you expect for
- 1:35:00motherfuckers? Like me represents is day one
- 1:35:02and live a life free so I act surprised when it all goes down.
- 1:35:06I don't talk. I walk.
- 1:35:07I understand you're not around, it's what can I say?
- 1:35:10Because shit gets real. It's a motherfucker struggle
- 1:35:13learning how to deal. Can't stop my mission going to
- 1:35:40be humble in the second week of bubble.
- 1:35:42Better wise up soon. It all can crumble, bigger one
- 1:35:45ways to stay grounded once upon a time.
- 1:35:48I lost my soul then I found it don't ask, I'm leaving many
- 1:35:51skeletons in The past Rising Up From the Ashes dark times that
- 1:35:55by last fucked up decision. Just fucked up consequences.
- 1:35:58Get this common sense but they ain't so common with it.
- 1:36:01I'm just looking for someone to guide me just behind me
- 1:36:04dedicated to the Grand. Gee, you're needing a team when
- 1:36:07you're chasing the dream. I needed more family, nothing in
- 1:36:10between. Oh yeah, I've been there and
- 1:36:12done that. I'm not going back.
- 1:36:14You know what I mean? Didn't put up a fight so I know
- 1:36:43it's not the same. It's all for the better by man.
- 1:36:45Has to maintain breaking old habits and checking my temper.
- 1:36:49I'm get this bitch out in the middle of what December I've
- 1:36:52been. Tested daily brain, it got the
- 1:36:53same as a way to Redemption. I've been wise enough lately.
- 1:36:57Looking back on my actions, can I improve?
- 1:36:59But some old school track natural smoke sets the mood,
- 1:37:02take a ride with me, it's a new adventure.
- 1:37:04Got to stay happy. Come bullshit off the picture.
- 1:37:07It's a motherfucker facing the facts.
- 1:37:09Now I'm back on track Ernest a contacts and never looking back.
- 1:37:12The journey isn't done. So I keep moving, discovered
- 1:37:15your hips and keep doing what you're doing.
- 1:37:46So, the night, the night that this video was shot was when you
- 1:37:50guys Mary. Yeah.
- 1:37:52Hey, you got to be. Hey, this is my stop.
- 1:37:54This is my second time. This is my second time watching
- 1:37:57this and you know at first I didn't know nothing about you.
- 1:38:00You know. I was like man what's all these?
- 1:38:02You know there's so many hidden like Easter eggs and yeah there
- 1:38:05and then like now I'm getting to know you everything's just
- 1:38:07making sense and every track I understand what I understand
- 1:38:11what you're saying so I'm like damn this she goes fucking hard.
- 1:38:15Yeah, thank you. Big dude, congrats to you.
- 1:38:17I like it. I like it.
- 1:38:18I was yeah. Like there was this one part
- 1:38:20where you were you're like and these people who are right
- 1:38:23behind me and you're like pointing on big see who's there,
- 1:38:26you know? Like that's pretty cool.
- 1:38:27Yeah that is that is fucking amazing.
- 1:38:29I like that. I like that.
- 1:38:30And I put a little credit for the homie ocean-going his.
- 1:38:34Yeah. He's the one that recorded that
- 1:38:36his studio. And I wrote a hook and I was
- 1:38:38getting my Nate Dogg on the hook.
- 1:38:40As I send you on your way, I was going to give like deep every
- 1:38:44day is like and then I lied. That it ain't really I thought
- 1:38:47it was alright when I sent it to him and two years later after
- 1:38:51shout out to El chingon, I got my track back but when he when
- 1:38:55he sent me the track he did he did the hook with the singing.
- 1:39:00You know I'm saying is I use that's how I am like doing.
- 1:39:03I'm like fuck I like that. So I'm like so I put him on
- 1:39:07shout out to El chingon that is really really good.
- 1:39:10That's yeah. And then like the another Easter
- 1:39:13egg that my family or anybody personally would know.
- 1:39:16Oh me since I come from classic rock lineages.
- 1:39:19Well, I put the Gene Simmons there because my lot of my
- 1:39:22Primo's are kiss fans. I'm growing up as well.
- 1:39:26So, so I my favorite rock band. So I had to put that on him.
- 1:39:29I put him already and I see you. You put those little things I
- 1:39:36had to put in there for the family.
- 1:39:37So it might seem odd or might seem like, why is this fool
- 1:39:39doing that? And then also, I have fun with
- 1:39:41my music. I am being so serious.
- 1:39:43On a bus, all Gangsta, Boogie on there.
- 1:39:44Yeah. Sure, I don't like.
- 1:39:46Is that a dancing? I was like, okay look fucking
- 1:39:49like not literally, I was listen to every lyrics when you were
- 1:39:52saying about you how to like search on your soul or something
- 1:39:55like that. I was like, you know, because
- 1:39:58you literally did because you really went you went, what were
- 1:40:00you doing again? I can remember s'long.
- 1:40:02Yes, exactly. And I was like oh that's what
- 1:40:04that's what the home you did. That's it changes you?
- 1:40:08Yeah. Well it changes you.
- 1:40:10Hey honestly, dude, congrats to be honest.
- 1:40:13I'm handclap see you, bro? My shoe at you, with your art,
- 1:40:24with your video. I've anybody ever seen?
- 1:40:27You're in a tattoo shop. Yeah.
- 1:40:28So, what made you have Sergio being there?
- 1:40:31Like, did you know surgery? That's, that's the homie.
- 1:40:35He did some work on, on a few people, I knew, and because he
- 1:40:40wasn't a homie. I grew up with like that, you
- 1:40:42know, me, I met later on. So, but he did my one of my
- 1:40:46That's my arm right here. Is this high enough with the
- 1:40:48brim hat that day? You were getting tattooed?
- 1:40:50Weren't you? Well, know what I mean?
- 1:40:52But before earlier in the day work.
- 1:40:54No, no, no it's been awhile. Know, he probably had another
- 1:40:58client has been a while he did both of the ones on my arm.
- 1:41:00Yeah so that the Azteca Numa sheikah stuff and then do it the
- 1:41:05modern-day like Ghana. So I'm going to do like where we
- 1:41:08are now and what the history is what really are the media world
- 1:41:12history book. I've been trying to learn gnawa
- 1:41:15So like I can speak something like say, oh me now he damn no
- 1:41:21Mac wheelie. You know?
- 1:41:22I'm trying to our numbers right now.
- 1:41:24My quality to nollie is saying like how you doing and goodbye.
- 1:41:28I'm trying to learn the native tongue of Spanish isn't our
- 1:41:31tongue. Yeah Spain yeah.
- 1:41:32You know what I mean? We get deep with that you know
- 1:41:34what I mean? Also my goal and that's what I
- 1:41:40was trying to ask you earlier. Like how do you bring in some of
- 1:41:43that Heritage into your music or just Who You Are?
- 1:41:46Stay tuned because I haven't wrote music in a while, like,
- 1:41:49so. So the new stuff I want to be
- 1:41:50riding, they'll see what I've learned.
- 1:41:53Yeah. To be in the lyrics, you know
- 1:41:55what I mean? There was a this right here.
- 1:41:58I wrote this song in 2020. Okay, okay some our 2020.
- 1:42:02So this was when I was just transitioning I was just just
- 1:42:06trying to find who I am, you know?
- 1:42:08So that's why I said, one of my lyrics of I need someone to
- 1:42:12guide me that's behind me. Yeah, and that was this.
- 1:42:15Bomb that came out later, but I was asking, I was wanting and I
- 1:42:19was searching. I like, what is it?
- 1:42:20You know, because I have Santa Muerte Tommy and I have my
- 1:42:23little but that wasn't for me because I it is I still have
- 1:42:27her. It opens up a spiritual world
- 1:42:30for me and I feel connected that way but at the end of the day, I
- 1:42:34pray to the source. Not to a doll.
- 1:42:37You know what I mean? So I'm like I don't really get
- 1:42:41too caught up in that which he shit.
- 1:42:42You know what I'm saying? Like, no disrespect, anybody who
- 1:42:44does I just You know, II play with it, hearing are too, just
- 1:42:48to feel some Sage, some Santo Paulo, like I kind of get
- 1:42:51connected, you know, the old Hall, you know, I get in the
- 1:42:53spiritual Vice but yeah. At the same time, I use this LOM
- 1:42:57to keep me grounded and have order a discipline with me, you
- 1:43:01know what I'm saying? And then the the more discipline
- 1:43:03you are the easier life is That's good.
- 1:43:07That's good. So how do you see the role of
- 1:43:11Chicano rappers and the larger music industry?
- 1:43:15I think you just got to unite and and just, just more united,
- 1:43:22it's good for everybody. You know what I'm saying?
- 1:43:24Like, I don't worry about trying to integrate with a mainstream.
- 1:43:28That's already been established. They have no handouts.
- 1:43:30They don't fucking handouts out of here and do it for yourself.
- 1:43:33Yeah, do for self. You know what I mean?
- 1:43:35And stay within the Immunity and and I think that when we can
- 1:43:39build each other up that way, so she's really gonna pop off, you
- 1:43:42know, but it's all we can set up our own events and do things.
- 1:43:45I don't have the money to do anything, I just got the ideas,
- 1:43:49no longer a credit card guys, I just got the idea I seen lately
- 1:43:55on these podcasts, like, mr. Criminal had Kendall G on there.
- 1:43:57He had a lot of people like there's certain to unite, you
- 1:44:00know, everyone's getting older, they're growing up.
- 1:44:02You know what I'm saying? And, and, and we're starting to
- 1:44:05figure out that. My family, you know, all you
- 1:44:08Unity Godlike. That's what we really need in
- 1:44:11our life. You know what I mean?
- 1:44:12Cause all, I think all that gangster.
- 1:44:13I mean, it's a young man's game. You know what I mean?
- 1:44:16It's a teenager mentality. You know what I mean?
- 1:44:17It starts very young, you know what I mean?
- 1:44:19So either you with it or you not with it, you know, you ain't 25
- 1:44:23trying to join something. Yeah, what are you doing?
- 1:44:25I'll get a job bro. Like, it's something that starts
- 1:44:27really young and it doesn't really leave, but you have to
- 1:44:31grow up. You know what I mean to do
- 1:44:32something better with yourself, but as far as the Chicano shit
- 1:44:35I'm focused. Midwest connecting.
- 1:44:38You know. That's why I had to connect with
- 1:44:39surgical connect with the shop. I'm trying to bring Unity, you
- 1:44:42know, I was trying to bring like even like his brother or like
- 1:44:45some other homeboys around and like trying to bring Unity like
- 1:44:48because I know art and music kind of go together so like
- 1:44:51tattoo. That's why I want to hear you
- 1:44:53did and when you tied up by someone and know that good, you
- 1:44:56kind of create like a bond for life with that diversion to me
- 1:44:59like man, you print it on me forever.
- 1:45:01So and I'm planning to get like a million.
- 1:45:04Oh, Zapata on the back of my neck.
- 1:45:06Had type of area. I told him about that, you know,
- 1:45:09they do a surgery. It is tattoos head.
- 1:45:11Now, I'm going to later you owned a but that's later on.
- 1:45:15Like I will the priorities right now, but I want to get like this
- 1:45:20Aztec astronaut. There's a, I think of Aztec
- 1:45:24warrior, but there's there's this higher or there's this like
- 1:45:29stones they had, you know, they mean and has the Aztec in a
- 1:45:32fucking ship like yeah, I have the picture on my phone and
- 1:45:36everything. Yeah, you see how it's holding
- 1:45:38these wheels and the hat and his Aztec person.
- 1:45:41Yeah. And it's called Aztec astronaut
- 1:45:43because they find these things in the jungles.
- 1:45:44You know what I mean, they have on Stone.
- 1:45:47Yeah. And I got a fucking show.
- 1:45:49Y'all this your well yeah you have to show us because that
- 1:45:52sounds pretty cool. I've been telling him about it
- 1:45:54or I don't even think I've told him about it.
- 1:45:56Honestly, I don't think I've told him a joke, I kind of am
- 1:46:04very Picky with what I put on my flesh, though.
- 1:46:08Well as you should I mention here forever.
- 1:46:31That's true. That's true.
- 1:46:36Yeah. Oh kind of keep it kind of like
- 1:46:39round-shaped but put it boom. I would be bad.
- 1:46:42And that is badass. That would be super badass you
- 1:46:45listening. She's too high to function.
- 1:46:49Let's that's later on. Well that's that's beautiful.
- 1:46:54I can't wait for that happen but there's another one I want also
- 1:46:58want to ask, you know, the what's the most important things
- 1:47:01in your life and how do you prioritize them?
- 1:47:03God family. Music.
- 1:47:07Hmm. Elastic boy.
- 1:47:15Yes, yes. I and when you're younger I lost
- 1:47:18God, right? Because, you know when your
- 1:47:21street do, you don't do it that mystery shit.
- 1:47:23You know what I mean? That's how you feel.
- 1:47:24Like, you know, I tend to lose that.
- 1:47:26I'm like, that's for the old lady's, right?
- 1:47:28Yeah. And then okay.
- 1:47:31Okay, motherfucker, you say that.
- 1:47:34Boom. There's a hit is a hit.
- 1:47:35There's a head that I'm screaming.
- 1:47:36Oh my God. Where are you at now?
- 1:47:39You Heed me expand. My God.
- 1:47:43Here I am again or do this. Once I would never do it again.
- 1:47:48Or, you know, people is since it's more of a scientific modern
- 1:47:51era, it's the universe, okay? Like don't say God, I don't need
- 1:47:56that, but whatever you want to call it, whatever terminology
- 1:47:58works best for you. I don't know that that where
- 1:48:02they say, well, you know, there's a law of attraction,
- 1:48:04right? Where I consider that as prayer,
- 1:48:06you know, you pray, you're attracting what you're praying
- 1:48:08for, you know, again, there's Universal Mind here.
- 1:48:11Yeah, and I mean I can go heavy on that, you know, but it's like
- 1:48:14all the same stuff but everyone's using different words
- 1:48:17to describe it. I swear after this, like my
- 1:48:19visible a later on, we need all of us.
- 1:48:21Need to link up and we talked about all this shit, me and her
- 1:48:25could speak for H. Z2 H, I was going to say, like
- 1:48:29not mantras but you said it earlier chakra.
- 1:48:34I know the other one where it's like you say something about
- 1:48:37yourself when you speak it to existence of There's a word for
- 1:48:41it. Manifesting.
- 1:48:43Yeah it's like manifesting. It's almost like the same as a
- 1:48:46prayer. Yeah.
- 1:48:47You know what? Yeah, you manifesting for
- 1:48:49yourself but like at the end of the day when you're manifesting
- 1:48:52your speaking out to the universe.
- 1:48:53Yep. And when you're praying you're
- 1:48:55speaking out to some God whoever and whatever you believe it or
- 1:48:59not the end of the day like you're believing in something
- 1:49:00greater than you. Yeah you're just using a
- 1:49:02different word to describe. What it is that they say that
- 1:49:05the term like the definition of energy is in God or like the
- 1:49:09same. Always was always has been ever
- 1:49:11be created, or destroyed, will continue to live formed into
- 1:49:14form out of form is the same definition.
- 1:49:17It's just two different terminology.
- 1:49:19So, you just choose what works best for you, for sure how,
- 1:49:21well, what you feel connected with room for me, the best of
- 1:49:24all names is Allah. That's the best of all names.
- 1:49:27God has a hundred names plus Yahweh, Jehovah has, but the
- 1:49:31best of all of them is Allah and that's what I believe and and
- 1:49:35and that's what gets me through the good.
- 1:49:38Yeah. So Amazing.
- 1:49:40Wonderful. Love it.
- 1:49:42Yes! Yes.
- 1:49:43So what we do here we do another segment called lightning round.
- 1:49:46All right so we asked you like ten questions and then you just
- 1:49:49you know give us whatever answer.
- 1:49:52Yes. Yes.
- 1:49:52So who wants to say this? Lightning?
- 1:49:54Round Fanny. I must suggest Fanny's.
- 1:49:56Okay, Katie Katie, you wanted this lighting round.
- 1:49:59Okay we got a list of questions. You just have two options for
- 1:50:02you. Okay question guys this is
- 1:50:04Katie. Hello put together.
- 1:50:09Okay. Are you ready?
- 1:50:11Let's do it. Alright.
- 1:50:12If you could have any superpower, what would it be?
- 1:50:15And why me we all want to fly boy, but why the place is
- 1:50:22easier? Yeah, I'll need to take a plane.
- 1:50:24Mmm. Yeah, mine would have been
- 1:50:26teleportation thousand. Oh, yeah, that's a hard level
- 1:50:29right there. But fly, I can enjoy, like, if I
- 1:50:33smoke one up there, you know, I'm a very bad person of
- 1:50:39Management me too. So I want to enjoy.
- 1:50:43Yeah. Okay.
- 1:50:45What is your favorite conspiracy theory?
- 1:50:50Yep, go three, two, one. Boom.
- 1:50:52Now I have mermaids is mine. Mine is Avril.
- 1:50:57Lavigne is amazing. Mermaids, I swear to God II know
- 1:51:01about mermaids. Yes.
- 1:51:02In a whole documentary on that, which is some real shit.
- 1:51:05It's real. I believe it swim with the
- 1:51:07dolphins. Yeah, they have the same free
- 1:51:09are hired. Each of frequency and then but
- 1:51:11they don't go dolphins or David or Maids mermaids because I
- 1:51:18think that we discover new things everyday and and what the
- 1:51:22more I live this life. Nothing sounds crazy to me
- 1:51:24anymore. That's true.
- 1:51:25The older I get like that shit. Doesn't sound crazy to me.
- 1:51:28Mmm. All right, that the verse you
- 1:51:30dropped it earlier. Yeah.
- 1:51:31Fire. By the way, who's your favorite
- 1:51:34rapper of all time ice cube? Why he had that straight up?
- 1:51:40He kind of reminds me and it's limited degree to my pops, he
- 1:51:44kind of like he just had that that look, but but he was
- 1:51:47strict. But fair.
- 1:51:49Yeah. You know what I mean?
- 1:51:49Straight up to the point. Yo, yo, hey, you know what I
- 1:51:52mean? Like it's just, it just Cube
- 1:51:55just had that like My favorite line with day that I mean they
- 1:52:00they are alive with, don't do that too smoky.
- 1:52:04All right. Don't say smokers Dede I like
- 1:52:06don't do that too. Smoky, please outside.
- 1:52:08That's a sin. You know?
- 1:52:10I love Friday. I can recite every fucking line
- 1:52:15in that. Oh, yeah.
- 1:52:16I think we all could have your hardcore from.
- 1:52:17Yeah, he's know it. Yeah.
- 1:52:20Would you can you still hear me? Yeah.
- 1:52:23Okay. Well, would you rather perform
- 1:52:25in front of a crowd of Thousand screaming fans or a room of 10
- 1:52:30disinterest. People the ten thousand
- 1:52:33screaming fans of a goddamn. I ain't wasting my time with
- 1:52:36three people. They are not interested but but
- 1:52:39I but I'll tell you this. We performed in front of the
- 1:52:42three people that are interested.
- 1:52:43We perform like there are 30,000 people here and I mean we've had
- 1:52:46shows like that where he might just be a few of them but they
- 1:52:48were not going to cheat them on a performance you know what I'm
- 1:52:51saying? So I've always had that
- 1:52:52mentality. Okay, what's your favorite song
- 1:52:55to perform live? And I the most high most yes, it
- 1:53:02was this one song and the homie Big C Gotti in the vault.
- 1:53:06There's a song man. Bump some G-funk Lord low with
- 1:53:11some skunk doom doom doom as a G-funk bump.
- 1:53:14Some G-funk riding low big see you remember that title bro?
- 1:53:18I don't remember. It was a search in the comments.
- 1:53:21Yeah. Dropping the comments, bro.
- 1:53:23If you could switch lives with anyone for a day, who would it
- 1:53:27be? No.
- 1:53:27Ones. No, I like who I am.
- 1:53:29Why? I love that answer.
- 1:53:32I feel like I wouldn't want their misery.
- 1:53:34You never know what the fuck they might be going.
- 1:53:37They might have this wealth and everyone was sad a shit.
- 1:53:40You know what I mean? Like don't don't don't, don't
- 1:53:43get it twisted. You don't have a lot of wealthy
- 1:53:45people that are sad. Lot of people that are poor that
- 1:53:48they don't feel poor. Yeah, they feel help.
- 1:53:50They feel happy with what they have and I rather be with that
- 1:53:53person, you know that's real damn.
- 1:53:57What's the The most adventurous thing you've ever done then.
- 1:54:04Man, I'm not really too adventurous.
- 1:54:07I mean brode you your the credit card mr.
- 1:54:10Caponi. What you talking about that's a
- 1:54:13business right there. I don't I I say you plead the
- 1:54:18Fifth I know, Colorado is always open up in the mountains is
- 1:54:26adventurers. I can get Red Rocks area around
- 1:54:28there, just smoke a j. I have a few pictures of those
- 1:54:30chilling out there hiking, you know, I was probably the most
- 1:54:33Adventures, I get, you know what I mean?
- 1:54:35I want to do more when the money's right.
- 1:54:37I'm gonna actually want to go to Venice and do a lot of stuff
- 1:54:40like Italy and stuff. Like, oh yeah, that's one of my
- 1:54:42bucket list. Yeah.
- 1:54:43Me too. Yeah, for sure.
- 1:54:45So, what is your favorite way to unwind?
- 1:54:49After a A long day, smoke a bowl, happy 4/20.
- 1:54:56You know, when I was a kid, I smoke blunts reich's.
- 1:54:58I thought, that's what you're supposed to do.
- 1:55:00Like, people just get blunts and you realize that's just fucking
- 1:55:03up the whole point of smoking the Cannabis, you know what I
- 1:55:05mean? And and I was feeling this heavy
- 1:55:07fucked in Coffs and that I like it.
- 1:55:09I'm out of cigarettes. Well, I'm not stop me.
- 1:55:11Anybody was fucking me up, but so I switched when I called have
- 1:55:15lyrics in there. So, if you guys later on
- 1:55:17playback, the video, I call my jam, I call them white girls.
- 1:55:22So I say a puffin on these white girls, never these blunts.
- 1:55:27That's one of my lyrics. So I'm liking on smoke a white
- 1:55:29girl. You know what I mean, that
- 1:55:30that's why that was my thing. Because there's a lot healthier
- 1:55:32no tobacco, you know, but it's not that it's the people, you
- 1:55:37know, I come home come over that because I'm not really a
- 1:55:39drinker. Do you prefer joints over glass?
- 1:55:42I prefer probably glass. You know what I mean?
- 1:55:45But but, but I got to be kind of I built the resin up and I like
- 1:55:49it but then it kind of like Like, I gotta clean it, you
- 1:55:51know, eventually. But you know, because I used to
- 1:55:54be a joint. I still like smoke.
- 1:55:55I mean, I smoke one all the way I like joins, but damn, it's
- 1:55:57like, I like conserving a little bit.
- 1:56:00I'm not like, bawling around, like I'm just blowing all my
- 1:56:02time. Like not like little balls.
- 1:56:05Okay, yeah, okay. If you had to pick three songs
- 1:56:09for your life Anthem life Anthem, what would they be see?
- 1:56:13It would have been easier if it was three albums of three
- 1:56:15artists, you know? That's why I sent it to you.
- 1:56:22I sent it to you, okay? Okay.
- 1:56:24And I thought it no but didn't give him much of a notice.
- 1:56:27But about brainstorming all the last night I was brainstorming.
- 1:56:30I was looking through music to say, okay top three?
- 1:56:36I say it. Number three will be mr.
- 1:56:38Criminals I remember, Flashback and reminiscing when your kids
- 1:56:43slap boxing, drinking your first beer, drinking smoking your
- 1:56:46Force first joint. You know what I mean?
- 1:56:50Is that I remember it's a good song.
- 1:56:52So just flashbacking. So I think that that would be
- 1:56:55every time I song comes on. I just I get my feelers a little
- 1:56:58bit. Yeah man, I got some guts, a
- 1:57:00good one, the second and the last of the both Tupac is Tupac
- 1:57:07song called. It Ain't Easy.
- 1:57:10It ain't easy being me, you know what I mean?
- 1:57:13That when you're young, you listen to it.
- 1:57:16It's like, all right. You go through some shit and you
- 1:57:19listen to that, you like wolf. I feel that, you know what I
- 1:57:22mean? Smoking, roaches till the
- 1:57:23morning like being broke, you know struggling.
- 1:57:28You know what I'm saying? II, it ain't easy being me and,
- 1:57:31and I'm listening to, I can relate so much and then to
- 1:57:35follow it. Number one, it would be and
- 1:57:37they're both on the same album. Tupac's.
- 1:57:40Song me against the world, you know that that song it, just hit
- 1:57:45different, you know, and I grow with it.
- 1:57:47So it's different at different ages, you know?
- 1:57:49Yeah. So yeah, there it is.
- 1:57:53Question. Yeah.
- 1:57:55All right. So here's to you.
- 1:57:59Did they make it on your in light invite list for the carne
- 1:58:04asada? Are they invited to the
- 1:58:06barbecue? Got my son saying are we
- 1:58:11invited? No one is invited to my house,
- 1:58:14but y'all y'all more than what does trust me, I won't.
- 1:58:23I'm like, hey, how used to be, you know, the party house,
- 1:58:28respect my house, you know what I'm saying?
- 1:58:30Lay down the law. You know, it straight up my son.
- 1:58:37Yes. Well smokes.
- 1:58:39Thank you for coming. Thank you, thank you for having
- 1:58:41me so much. Yes, mazing guys. 20 know, we're
- 1:58:46excited. We're happy that you are here.
- 1:58:47Thank you again, for everything for sharing your like they're
- 1:58:50selling your passion bomb as drink right here.
- 1:58:52You guys made it. We always do it here.
- 1:58:57So about Reba Reba. O'Reilly that was a kick that
- 1:59:17one off to. I like it for my head.