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Ep. 1072: Foundations - Tight-Quarter Stand Setups for Big Bucks · Wired To Hunt Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wired2Hunt Foundations podcast, your guide to the
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  Speaker 1: fundamentals of better deer hunting. Presented by First Light, creating proven,
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  Speaker 1: go farther, stay longer. And now, your host, Tony Peterson.
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  Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Wired to Hunt Foundation's podcast,
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  Speaker 2: which is brought to you by First Light. I'm your host,
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  Speaker 2: Tony Peterson, and today's episode is all about thinking through
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  Speaker 2: your setups to make sure you get the best shot
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  Speaker 2: opportunities possible on big bucks. All right, I think this
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  Speaker 2: episode might be one of the most helpful ones I've
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  Speaker 2: ever put together so far. The thing I love about
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  Speaker 2: this podcast is that I have to take some of
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  Speaker 2: the things I just do in whitetail hunting that I
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  Speaker 2: think work, you know, like how I set up my
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  Speaker 2: stands and blinds, and then explain them, you know, explain
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  Speaker 2: the reasons why I do what I do. Maybe that
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  Speaker 2: sounds dumb, but on this topic I'm working through today,
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  Speaker 2: I think it'll make a lot of sense when you
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  Speaker 2: hear it. And I think if you listen and at
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  Speaker 2: least loosely follow this advice, you might not necessarily see
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  Speaker 2: more deer, but you'll shoot more deer and not just
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  Speaker 2: any deer either. Big bucks. Let's run a visualization experiment here.
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  Speaker 2: Picture yourself at the top of a mountain, like way,
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  Speaker 2: way at the top. Doesn't have to be Everest. Just
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  Speaker 2: an exposed mountaintop. What's happening to you? Well, you probably
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  Speaker 2: have a beautiful view of the mountain range around you.
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  Speaker 2: You know, the green valleys below. Maybe way off in
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  Speaker 2: the distance you can see a road with traffic passing along.
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  Speaker 2: It looks like it's all just toy cars and trucks
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  Speaker 2: because they're so small from your view. And that view
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  Speaker 2: is great. But also, the wind is smoking and it's cold.
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  Speaker 2: The rocks around you are like a moonscape. And everywhere
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  Speaker 2: you look are places where if you slip and fall,
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  Speaker 2: You just might die or at the very least end
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  Speaker 2: up with a couple of important leg bones sticking out
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  Speaker 2: through your skin. The beauty of the view might outweigh
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  Speaker 2: the feeling of being very exposed and not all that
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  Speaker 2: close to anything truly safe.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe.
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  Speaker 2: Now, leave that mountaintop. Go completely somewhere else. Like Central Florida.
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  Speaker 2: Instead of being 15,000 feet above sea level, you're not
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  Speaker 2: 15 centimeters above sea level. Standing on a small hump
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  Speaker 2: of dry ground in a swamp. let's say, in July.
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  Speaker 2: Forget the bugs for a second, which you wouldn't be
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  Speaker 2: able to do if you were actually there, but just
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  Speaker 2: think about your view. You can see maybe 10 or
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  Speaker 2: 20 feet in any direction, but mostly you see greenery,
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  Speaker 2: jungle-like brush and trees, and there's water everywhere. It's a
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  Speaker 2: claustrophobic environment and probably not all that comfortable for a
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  Speaker 2: lot of people, particularly the average Midwestern whitetail hunter. Now,
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  Speaker 2: if you were hiding from someone, You might be comforted
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  Speaker 2: by the fact that you'd be hard to find just
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  Speaker 2: on principle alone in a spot like that. But what
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  Speaker 2: about the alligators? Maybe there's a big cat roaming the
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  Speaker 2: swamp looking for a bite-sized deer. Snakes? Sure, they're there.
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  Speaker 2: The mind can find plenty of danger in an environment
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  Speaker 2: like that. And since you can't see very far, the
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  Speaker 2: general thought will be that the dangers could be close.
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  Speaker 2: It's not a settling, comfortable environment. Not unlike the mountaintop.
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  Speaker 2: which is kind of the exact opposite but provides a
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  Speaker 2: similar feeling, even though the look is totally different. But
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  Speaker 2: why are those scenarios anxiety-inducing? Well, one explanation comes from
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  Speaker 2: a fellow named Jay Appleton, a geographer who wrote the
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  Speaker 2: book The Experience of Landscape, which came out back in 1975.
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  Speaker 2: The central idea of the book is that humans are
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  Speaker 2: evolutionarily bent toward environments that provide two things, prospect and refuge.
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  Speaker 2: Prospect is simply the ability to see outward and observe
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  Speaker 2: the surrounding environment. But refuge allows for the ability to
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  Speaker 2: hide and find shelter, to remain safe. Where would this
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  Speaker 2: come from? Well, most of our history was spent out,
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  Speaker 2: you know, in the wild looking for food and trying
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  Speaker 2: to find shelter and water, while simultaneously trying to spot
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  Speaker 2: short-faced bears and other critters that could turn us into lunch.
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  Speaker 2: And let's not forget the other humans out there who
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  Speaker 2: once encountered would often prove to not be very friendly.
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  Speaker 2: Simply put, an environment that allowed for observation while remaining
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  Speaker 2: in safety was ideal, and we sought them out. Now,
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  Speaker 2: our ancestors who didn't, didn't get to make as many
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  Speaker 2: babies as those who did. Think about houses and how
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  Speaker 2: they're designed and why they are comfortable and cozy. And
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  Speaker 2: then think about why we generally don't build houses without windows,
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  Speaker 2: for example. Or maybe a more fun way to think
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  Speaker 2: about this is, Think about why kids like to build forts.
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  Speaker 2: This is sort of a universal experience for children, or
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  Speaker 2: at least it used to be. A fort is an
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  Speaker 2: enclosure that offers the feeling of protection, but there's always
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  Speaker 2: a window or a gap in the blankets that allows
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  Speaker 2: for observation. This might also explain our preference for elevated
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  Speaker 2: locations like tree houses, upper floor balconies, hilltops, mountain overlooks,
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  Speaker 2: and well, you get it. It's fascinating stuff, and it
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  Speaker 2: has a lot to do with why a lot of
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  Speaker 2: hunters don't kill very many big bucks. You see, if
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  Speaker 2: you think about our preference for views and our environments,
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  Speaker 2: and you run it back through the march of time,
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  Speaker 2: you can start to understand why our ancestors chose very
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  Speaker 2: specific types of locations. It was truly a means for survival.
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  Speaker 2: We don't really need to think about it that way now,
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  Speaker 2: but you can put yourself in a buck's, uh, hooves?
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  Speaker 2: and start to see why he might not want to
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  Speaker 2: spend much of his daylight hours feeding away in shin-high hayfield,
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to betting on a hillside bench with his
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  Speaker 2: back to a deadfall and his eyes pointed toward the
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  Speaker 2: valley below. He's looking for the right kind of spot
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  Speaker 2: that gives him refuge and a valuable enough view of
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  Speaker 2: whatever might be headed his way. Just like with us,
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  Speaker 2: he's looking for a kind of controlled openness in much
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  Speaker 2: of his life. A big enough view that is paired
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  Speaker 2: with the feeling of protection. All right. So where am
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  Speaker 2: I going with this? Well, take a drive through the
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  Speaker 2: countryside about anywhere these days where deer live and people
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  Speaker 2: still hunt them. You'll see box blinds on field edges
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  Speaker 2: and other highly advantageous spots. We literally took little houses
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  Speaker 2: and put them up where the deer live. Which does what?
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  Speaker 2: It gives us big views, but a cozy spot to
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  Speaker 2: observe them from. Because the big views are often not
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  Speaker 2: great for killing big bucks, though. We often pair those
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  Speaker 2: little houses up with, you know, food plots and other
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  Speaker 2: things that should draw deer in. but I don't want
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  Speaker 2: to talk about box blind hunting here. I want to
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  Speaker 2: talk about regular unenclosed tree stands and saddles and ground blinds,
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  Speaker 2: you know, both the hub style kind and the natural kind,
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  Speaker 2: the kinds of setups that a lot of bow hunters
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  Speaker 2: utilize throughout the season. Now, what would you say is
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  Speaker 2: a fairly common denominator found around, you know, ambush setups
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  Speaker 2: that the average weekend warrior whitetail hunter would choose? Forget
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  Speaker 2: the style of stand or blind, but think about the environment.
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  Speaker 2: it's almost always somewhat open. Field edges? For sure. Meadows?
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  Speaker 1: You bet.
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  Speaker 2: Power lines cut through miles of state forest? You know it.
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  Speaker 2: How about just a nice deciduous forest with old growth
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  Speaker 2: trees that blot out the sun and keep the undergrowth
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  Speaker 2: from getting enough tiny packages of energy from the sky
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  Speaker 2: to grow some weeds and brush? Absolutely. Now imagine just
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  Speaker 2: the difference between hunting those types of spots on the
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  Speaker 2: ground versus being 17 feet up in a tree. The
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  Speaker 2: view is going to change. The vibes are going to change.
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  Speaker 2: What we want is the feeling of being secure and
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  Speaker 2: hidden while also being able to see as much of
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  Speaker 2: the environment around us as we can. Now, imagine that
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  Speaker 2: you're a five and a half year old buck on
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  Speaker 2: public land in Pennsylvania or maybe Kentucky. Your encounters with
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  Speaker 2: hunters and all of the times you catch a whiff
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  Speaker 2: of where someone has been through recently, they all stack
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  Speaker 2: up in your brain as cautionary experiences related to a threat.
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  Speaker 2: What percentage of those encounters with bow hunters, or I
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  Speaker 2: guess deer hunters in general, happen in those types of spots?
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  Speaker 2: I would guess most of them. Especially most of the
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  Speaker 2: encounters that don't involve a person just blindly walking through
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  Speaker 2: the woods anyway. The kind of encounters that signal you're
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  Speaker 2: around someone with bad intentions. What would you do with
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  Speaker 2: that information if you were a big buck? Well, in
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  Speaker 2: a day you'd find that bench or other spot that
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  Speaker 2: offered ideal protection and threat detection. And at night, when
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  Speaker 2: the hunters were gone, at least the two-legged hunters, and
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  Speaker 2: the four-legged toothy critters were out, you'd probably spend more
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  Speaker 2: time out in the open where the danger has no
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  Speaker 2: good approach to you. That leaves most of us with
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  Speaker 2: not a lot of options for how to kill a
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  Speaker 2: big buck of that age. because most of his life
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  Speaker 2: he's conducting himself in a way that doesn't expose him
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  Speaker 2: to our style of preferred ambush hunting. Sure, we can
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  Speaker 2: blind call our asses off and try some other tricks
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  Speaker 2: to get him to give up his advantages, but we
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  Speaker 2: all know how well that works when we're in pursuit
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  Speaker 2: of a real mature buck in most places. This means
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  Speaker 2: you need to break his life down into those spots
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  Speaker 2: in which he's going to move, in daylight, and then
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  Speaker 2: figure out how to get there and hunt him. But
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  Speaker 2: you know what you usually have to do in order
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  Speaker 2: to make that happen? Ignore those big views. This is
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  Speaker 2: a lot harder than people think, and it's partially just
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  Speaker 2: due to our evolution. Kind of like when you come
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  Speaker 2: home from being out all day and you're just starving.
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  Speaker 2: You're not as likely to take the time to make
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  Speaker 2: a nice, well-balanced, and healthy meal because your brain is
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  Speaker 2: wired to look for calorie-dense foods that can give you
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  Speaker 2: energy your body is asking for without any commitment of
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  Speaker 2: extra time. A big bowl of mac and cheese is
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  Speaker 2: just more appealing in that situation than a salad, even
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  Speaker 2: if you could get them to the same calorie count.
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  Speaker 2: When most hunters hang a stand or put up a blind,
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  Speaker 2: at least a partial reason for them choosing the location
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  Speaker 2: is going to be because of the view. But is
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  Speaker 2: that the criteria we should be working off of? I
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  Speaker 2: don't think so. I have a reputation for a couple
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  Speaker 2: of things in the whitetail world. You know, hunting water
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  Speaker 2: is one. Shooting forkeys when I want to is another,
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  Speaker 2: but I also tend to hang stands that don't offer
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  Speaker 2: awesome views a lot of times. I like to hunt
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  Speaker 2: right where bucks are likely to go and set up
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  Speaker 2: so if they do just that, I can shoot them
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  Speaker 2: when they are 20 yards away. People often comment when
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  Speaker 2: they sit my stands that they go a little nutty,
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  Speaker 2: but when the buck shows up, it's awesome. You'll see
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  Speaker 2: a lot of this if you watch the 12 and
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  Speaker 2: 26 film from when I hunted with Steve and his
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  Speaker 2: buddy Pat last fall in Nebraska, which is coming out
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  Speaker 2: this week. Where Pat killed his buck was just one
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  Speaker 2: of those spots. There were far more open areas on
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  Speaker 2: both sides of that pinch point that he was on,
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  Speaker 2: but the spot to get a buck close and broadside
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  Speaker 2: was where I put up that blind. It wasn't a
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  Speaker 2: fun blind to sit because he couldn't see much of anything,
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  Speaker 2: but it was the place to be when a cruising
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  Speaker 2: buck came through. I know that makes sense when you
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  Speaker 2: hear me say it, but think about what most hunters
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  Speaker 2: actually do when they go in to hang a set
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  Speaker 2: or put up a ground blind. And listen, I'm not
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  Speaker 2: saying you can't kill deer or big bucks on field
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  Speaker 2: edges and other openings because that would be stupid. But
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  Speaker 2: most of the season on properties that experience at least
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  Speaker 2: some hunting pressure, or at least in areas with a
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  Speaker 2: decent amount of hunters, that's just not a high odds
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  Speaker 2: deal most of the time. How do you go about
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  Speaker 2: breaking that cycle and not factoring in the view when
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  Speaker 2: you set stands? Well, I think about it like this.
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  Speaker 2: I want to try to predict the exact spot a
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  Speaker 2: buck will walk and then set up for that shot
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  Speaker 2: knowing what conditions it's most likely to happen in. That's
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  Speaker 2: what I care about the most is that specific shot.
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  Speaker 2: You see, we think about a spot to hang a stand,
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  Speaker 2: and we look for a tree, and then we look
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  Speaker 2: for all the trails around it, and we look to
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  Speaker 2: maximize opportunities for shots everywhere we can, and that can work.
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  Speaker 2: But it also plays heavily into us wanting a bigger,
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  Speaker 2: better view. What we should want instead is to figure
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  Speaker 2: out the most likely travel route and then set up
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  Speaker 2: for our best shot on that travel route. while also
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  Speaker 2: hunting it when the conditions favor us just slightly more
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  Speaker 2: than they favor the four-legged travelers on the trail. This
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  Speaker 2: is honestly the best way to kill a big buck
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  Speaker 2: in my experience, during a hell of a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the season anyway. You know, like that time period after
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  Speaker 2: the opener and before the rut kicks in, that big
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  Speaker 2: bulky part of the season where a lot of hunters
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  Speaker 2: just really don't go very much because the odds of
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  Speaker 2: seeing a buck on the move in daylight in the
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  Speaker 2: open fields just aren't great. You know, when he's supposedly
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  Speaker 2: nocturnal because he doesn't want to walk by your bean
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  Speaker 2: field camera in the daylight anymore. I would say this
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  Speaker 2: is one of the hardest things to not only try,
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  Speaker 2: but to sort of build into your whitetail mindset. A
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  Speaker 2: lot of what we find really challenging in life is
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  Speaker 2: just us fighting our evolution, and it plays into diet
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  Speaker 2: and exercise and social interactions and a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 2: stuff that can make us feel good, or more likely,
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  Speaker 2: make us feel not so good. The only way to
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  Speaker 2: get past this stuff is to try and to keep trying.
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  Speaker 2: Positive reinforcement does wonders for us, and it's really the
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  Speaker 2: key to a lot of successful deer hunting strategies, especially
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  Speaker 2: if you don't have a ton of money or a really,
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  Speaker 2: really good spot to hunt. Trying something that isn't supposed
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  Speaker 2: to work and realizing that it works just fine is
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  Speaker 2: a great way for us to bust out of our
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  Speaker 2: mental prison cells. The biggest part of it is to
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  Speaker 2: understand the task, which can be broken down like this.
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  Speaker 2: Between where he beds and where he likely ends up
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  Speaker 2: for the night, he has to travel. He will choose
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  Speaker 2: to travel in daylight if he feels largely concealed and
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  Speaker 2: protected from the usual threats. Where those spots will be
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  Speaker 2: almost always are in the cover. Now you can find
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  Speaker 2: these spots by running trail cameras, which is a huge
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  Speaker 2: advantage if you do it right. You can also find
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  Speaker 2: these spots by scouting on foot, which is something that
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  Speaker 2: most whitetail hunters won't do a whole lot once the
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  Speaker 2: season is open. But the bucks out there are leaving
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  Speaker 2: sign and tracks on certain trails and they're telling you
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  Speaker 2: an awful lot about what they do throughout the day.
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  Speaker 2: What's harder than finding these spots, though, is finding them
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  Speaker 2: and then finding the right ambush options and then putting
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  Speaker 2: in the time to figure out if you were right
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  Speaker 2: or not. This is maybe the biggest, mostly unspoken thing
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  Speaker 2: that holds a lot of whitetail hunters back. They lack
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  Speaker 2: the confidence and conviction to see something like this through.
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  Speaker 2: What I've found with this style of hunting is that
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  Speaker 2: deer are, shockingly, not crazy predictable most of the season. Health.
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  Speaker 2: Even during the run on a great pinch point in
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  Speaker 2: most places, I need to put in at least a
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  Speaker 2: couple of days to run into a good one. Often
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  Speaker 2: more days than that, I guess. More days than I
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  Speaker 2: have sometimes, if I'm being really honest. Now, doing the
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  Speaker 2: same thing on October 5th is another level more difficult.
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  Speaker 2: It's really hard to get past sitting in a spot
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  Speaker 2: where you can't hardly see a thing, where you know
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  Speaker 2: that you're just not going to have a parade of
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  Speaker 2: deer going by, but you have to cross your fingers
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  Speaker 2: that a good one will anyway. when most of the
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  Speaker 2: whitetail sphere says he won't, and your brain says, this
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  Speaker 2: is not a spot I want to be in. But
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  Speaker 2: you know what? It takes one deer to start to
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  Speaker 2: alter your line of thinking. I'll never forget an encounter
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  Speaker 2: I had with a really good buck, like a 130
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  Speaker 2: that came out in a little swamp here in Minnesota,
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  Speaker 2: you know, way back in the beginning of October in
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  Speaker 2: like 2011, 2012, somewhere around there. I was in a
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  Speaker 2: tree on a trail that I felt might just have
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  Speaker 2: a doe come down to it, and it was a
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  Speaker 2: beautiful night, and I wanted to hunt. I didn't think
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  Speaker 2: I would have an encounter with a good one, and
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  Speaker 2: he didn't choose my trail even though he flirted with it.
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  Speaker 2: But I remember thinking, if I was 10 yards away
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  Speaker 2: in a different tree, I could have killed an awesome buck,
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  Speaker 2: when it should have been very unlikely. The truth is,
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  Speaker 2: awesome bucks are out there all over walking through the
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  Speaker 2: cover throughout much of the season, but they aren't very
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  Speaker 2: likely to go into spots that we most likely want
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  Speaker 2: to hunt. The solution to that is simple, but it's
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  Speaker 2: not easy. It's worth the try anyway, because if you
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  Speaker 2: set up for the one shot and the thick stuff
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  Speaker 2: and it all comes together, you'll never not have that
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  Speaker 2: option in your arsenal. And I'm telling you, it's valuable.
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  Speaker 2: It gets you doing what other hunters mostly won't. And
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  Speaker 2: that's exactly what the bucks don't expect you to do.
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  Speaker 2: So think about it and then think about coming back
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  Speaker 2: next week because I'm going to break down morning hunts
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  Speaker 2: and what most hunters I think kind of get wrong
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  Speaker 2: about them and why they cost themselves shots at bucks.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. I'm Tony Peterson. This has been the Wired
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  Speaker 2: to Hunt Foundations podcast. As always, thank you so much
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  Speaker 2: how-to stuff, just about everything you want to learn about
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  Speaker 2: the latest outdoor issues or how to catch a fish
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: or kill a deer or whatever it's all there go
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: check it out and once again thank you so much
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: for your support