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Sharri | 16 September · Sharri

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Speaker 1: Live on Sky News.
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Speaker 2: This is Sharry Good Evening tonight to major developments on
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Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk's Assassin, a probe into a wider network, DNA
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Speaker 2: from the crime scene, and a text message that foretold
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Speaker 2: of the horror. Also on the show, the Liberals in
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Speaker 2: disarray over Net zero, while Chris Bowen mounts the case
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Speaker 2: for even more action, never mind the cost to bills.
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Speaker 2: I'll ask Mikayla Cash about her position in a moment,
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Speaker 2: and she is fired up about Chris Bowen and the
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Speaker 2: outrageous threat to kick out Israel from Eurovision. Do they
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Speaker 2: need reminding that hundreds of Israelis were killed at the
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Speaker 2: Nova Music Festival. I'll speak about this with Ray Hadley Shorty.
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Speaker 2: But first to a major update now and Charlie Kirk's
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Speaker 2: accused assassin, DNA evidence, a probe into a wider network,
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Speaker 2: and a text message CONFESSIONBI has revealed compelling details of
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Speaker 2: its hunt to piece together how this political assassination.
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Speaker 3: Of a rising star took place in broad daylight.
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Speaker 2: The agency is investigating whether an extended network aided and
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Speaker 2: abedded the alleged killer, Tyler Robinson. The New York Post
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Speaker 2: reports that authorities are probing weather, pro trans online groups,
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Speaker 2: sexualized animal obsessed, furries, and others connected with Robinson had
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Speaker 2: advanced knowledge of his alleged murderous plans. They're trying to
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Speaker 2: legally obtain messages exchanged between the more than twenty members
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Speaker 2: in the group chat from before the assassination.
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Speaker 3: FBI Director Cash.
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Speaker 2: Patel has revealed that DNA evidence connecting Robinson to the
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Speaker 2: murder weapon has been collected.
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Speaker 4: And I can report today that the DNA hits from
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Speaker 4: the towel that was wrapped around the firearm and the
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Speaker 4: DNA on the screwdriver are positively processed for the suspect
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Speaker 4: in custody.
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Speaker 2: Patel also said the alleged killer's family told police that
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Speaker 2: he subscribed to left wing ideology, particularly over the past
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Speaker 2: two years. It's also been reported that Robinson was in
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Speaker 2: a romantic relationship with his transgender boyfriend, who was transitioning
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Speaker 2: to be a woman, and Robinson is even believed to
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Speaker 2: have confessed in a text message that he had an
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Speaker 2: upcoming opportunity to take out Kirk.
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Speaker 4: He had a text message exchange he the suspect with
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Speaker 4: another individual in which he claimed that he had an
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Speaker 4: opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk, and he was going
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Speaker 4: to do it because of his hatred for what Charlie
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Speaker 4: stood for. Those are factually accurate investigatory findings by the FBI.
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Speaker 2: Why didn't that person that he was talking to, why
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Speaker 2: didn't person say something?
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Speaker 4: Our investigation is ongoing. That's a great question and we
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Speaker 4: don't have an answer on that just yet.
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Speaker 2: Now this person could face charges, and they absolutely should
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Speaker 2: face the toughest possible penalty if it does turn out
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Speaker 2: that they knew about the political assassination and didn't raise
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Speaker 2: the alarm. The deputy FBI directed Dan Bongono, also revealed
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Speaker 2: that Tyler Robinson had an obsession with Kirk.
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Speaker 5: Well, I think it's pretty clear based on the statements
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Speaker 5: of family members, friends, and some of the messaging we
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Speaker 5: have on these digital footprints left behind, that he clearly
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Speaker 5: had some obsession with Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 3: And that's of course Dan Bongino.
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Speaker 2: Now, America is still reeling from the horrific murder, still
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Speaker 2: grappling with a society where many on the far left
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Speaker 2: have celebrated Charlie Kirk's no empathy for his young widow
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Speaker 2: and little children, all the fact that his own life
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Speaker 2: was cut shot at the age of thirty one. The
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Speaker 2: left has refused to unequivocally condemn political violence, and now
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Speaker 2: we're seeing senior figures frightened for their own safety and
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Speaker 2: their counseling events.
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Speaker 6: Now security fears are paralyzing Capitol Hill. Alexandria Ocasio Cortes
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Speaker 6: and others are counseling events. House Democrats held a call
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Speaker 6: about security yesterday with Capitol police and other security officials.
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Speaker 2: Now, the President Donald Trump has spoken in the past
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Speaker 2: few days about radical left groups using violent language, violent words,
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Speaker 2: and how this can lead to violent action. Well, some
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Speaker 2: of these far left organizations fund groups which engage in
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Speaker 2: violent protests, and Trump is now reportedly considering designating these
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Speaker 2: far left outfits as a domestic terror organization. The Wall
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Speaker 2: Street Journal reports that George Soros and the groups he
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Speaker 2: runs could be the first target. He denies, of course,
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Speaker 2: that he funds groups that are violent.
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Speaker 3: Now, these laws would be a strong move.
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Speaker 2: There needs to be accountability here for those behind the
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Speaker 2: groups that we've seen promote hatred and violence in society.
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Speaker 2: And one thing we can all learn from Charlie Kirk
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Speaker 2: is his ability to be respectful and polite to his
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Speaker 2: ideological opponents. Even while strongly arguing his case. The Vice
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Speaker 2: President J. D. Vance spoke to Kirk's legacy as he
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Speaker 2: hosted the Charlie Kirk Podcast from the White House.
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Speaker 7: He was a joyful warrior for our country.
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Speaker 8: He loved America.
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Speaker 6: He devoted himself tirelessly to making our country a better place.
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Speaker 2: And that's part of what I think was so incredible
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Speaker 2: about Charlie Kirk. He was passionate and a tireless hard worker,
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Speaker 2: but he was also incredibly optimistic.
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Speaker 3: And perhaps we could.
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Speaker 2: Or do with more of Charlie Kirk's optimism.
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Speaker 1: Now.
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Speaker 2: You might remember the controversial undercover sting when the Daily
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Speaker 2: Telegraph took a Jewish man into an anti Israel cafe
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Speaker 2: to see what the reaction would be. That was Cairo
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Speaker 2: Takeaway in Newtown in Sydney, where the owner had been
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Speaker 2: outspoken about Israel and social media. Well tonight I can
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Speaker 2: report that the Jewish man involved in that story, a
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Speaker 2: Fear Birenbaum, is suing the cafes owners for defamation after
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Speaker 2: accusing them of making inaccurate claims about his conduct. The
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Speaker 2: case is appearing in court for the first time tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: A Fear, who is a prominent Jewish activist retained the
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Speaker 2: Powerhouse legal team Suecrisanthu and Rebecca Giles. The Telegraph took
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Speaker 2: Brenbaum into Cairo Takeaway Cafe in Sydney with him wearing
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Speaker 2: a mug and David a Star of David to see
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Speaker 2: if there'd be any reaction from the cafe.
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Speaker 9: Tuesday afternoon and Cairo Takeaway Cafe is buzzing when a
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Speaker 9: man wearing a Star of David cap walks in and
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Speaker 9: orders a hibiscus tea. He moves to the back of
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Speaker 9: the cafe wearing glasses with a camera. He turns them
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Speaker 9: on and he leaves.
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Speaker 2: Now the cafe's owner and other staff posted about the
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Speaker 2: stunt prolifically on social media, and their version of events
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Speaker 2: was believed. It sparked a huge backlash from the media
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Speaker 2: and politicians. Everyone from the Home Affairs Minister Tony Burke
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Speaker 2: down condemned the Daily Telegraph. Tony Burke said, deliberately provoking
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Speaker 2: people in it some pathetic game to try and get
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Speaker 2: a reaction, is irresponsible and runs counter to the national interest,
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Speaker 2: and the media were brutal, accusing the Telegraph of trying
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Speaker 2: to stir up anti Semitism. But no one seemed to
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Speaker 2: notice when Cairo Takeaway quietly withdrew many of the claims
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Speaker 2: they'd made publicly. Now, instead of repeating the outrageous claims,
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Speaker 2: I'm going to read you their retraction Cairo Takeaway posted
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Speaker 2: on their Instagram account. We accept that mister Brenbaum did
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Speaker 2: not make threats to staff.
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Speaker 3: We accept that.
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Speaker 2: Other than ordering tea, mister Brenbaum said nothing else inside
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Speaker 2: our restaurant. We accept that mister Brenbaum did not say
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Speaker 2: to our staff, do you have a problem with me
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Speaker 2: because I'm Jewish? Or you're intimidating me, you're making me
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Speaker 2: feel unsafe, or I hope you're restaurant gets blown up,
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Speaker 2: or do you want to start something?
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Speaker 3: Or you arabs make good tea.
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Speaker 2: We had no evidence that mister Birenbaum is associated with
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Speaker 2: a far right hate group or that he was advancing.
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Speaker 3: Such a group's activities on the day.
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Speaker 2: Mister Birrenbaum did not verbally taunt or become verbally confrontational
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Speaker 2: with our staff. Mister Birenbaum was not physically pulled away
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Speaker 2: from the scene by the Daily Telegraph crew. The cafes
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Speaker 2: emphatic denial gives you a fair idea of the accusations
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Speaker 2: that had been leveled against a Fear.
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Speaker 3: But despite this statement, no.
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Speaker 2: One publicly bothered to set the records straight, not the
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Speaker 2: media and certainly not the politicians. The overall perception was
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Speaker 2: that a Fear had attempted to fabricate an anti Semitic incident.
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Speaker 3: When in fact the video evidence.
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Speaker 2: Shows he walks in politely, orders a hibiscus tea and
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Speaker 2: then walks out. The accusations were incredibly distressing for him,
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Speaker 2: and so he is suing the cafe, its owner and
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Speaker 2: its chef for defamation. And again it'll be in court
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Speaker 2: tomorrow for the first time. Lawyers for the cafe, Stuart
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Speaker 2: O'Connell of O'Brien criminal and civil lawyers, told the Age newspaper.
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Speaker 2: Now it is going to court. We have instructions to
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Speaker 2: staunchly defend this claim and mister Breenbaum is going to
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Speaker 2: have a real fight on his hands.
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Speaker 10: Now.
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Speaker 2: There were actually several cafes that a Fear and The
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Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph visited over the course of the day. Cairo
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Speaker 2: Takeaway was among them because of highly offensive comments the
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Speaker 2: owner had made where he said Zionist pigs should stay away.
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Speaker 2: The Daily Mail reported that in response to a social
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Speaker 2: media comment about a mural of a raised fist in
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Speaker 2: the colors of the Palestinian.
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Speaker 3: Flag, and I'm here from the Daily Mail.
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Speaker 2: The owner of a popular Sydney restaurant has told narcissistic Zionists.
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Speaker 3: To stay away from his venue.
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Speaker 2: In an abusive post on Instagram, mister L Massri wrote,
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Speaker 2: Cairo Restaurant does not want narcissistic Zionist pigs like yourself
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Speaker 2: coming into our restaurant. People like yourself are not welcome
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Speaker 2: here and anywhere for that matter. The walls are closing
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Speaker 2: in on your type. Your narrative is becoming old f off.
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Speaker 2: So just to be clear, that wasn't directed towards a fear.
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Speaker 2: That was directed towards someone who had a comment or
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Speaker 2: complaint about a Palestinian mural. And the chef at that
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Speaker 2: cafe had posted this on June the sixth, twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 2: October seven wasn't nearly enough, and this on June the thirteenth,
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Speaker 2: twenty twenty four. There are no Zonis civilians. They are
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Speaker 2: all murdering lunatics. October seven wasn't nearly enough, and the
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Speaker 2: owner of the restaurant, Heshem L. Massri, has posted content
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Speaker 2: like this, Israel is a terrorist nation.
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Speaker 3: Share if you believe, let the whole world know.
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Speaker 2: And this on October fourteen, twenty twenty three, just a
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Speaker 2: week after the terror attacks on Israel. Israel is a racist,
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Speaker 2: supremacist state. That was just seven days after the October
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Speaker 2: seventh slaughter of Israeli babies, children, teenagers at a music
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Speaker 2: festival and entire families in cold Blood. Now should the
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Speaker 2: Daily Telegraph have conducted a social experiment to see how
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Speaker 2: people who hold.
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Speaker 3: These views would treat a Jew?
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Speaker 2: Now you might argue it's too risky and too provocative,
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Speaker 2: but I've personally often wondered how I would be treated
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Speaker 2: as a Jew in hostile environments. Social experiments like this
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Speaker 2: have been done in the past and are a legitimate
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Speaker 2: form of journalism. The only reason this became a controversy
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Speaker 2: was because of the cafes version of events and the
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Speaker 2: claims made by the Cafe about Berenbaum's conduct, which were
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Speaker 2: believed instantly, even with the Home Affairs Minister, because no
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Speaker 2: one waits for the facts anymore, not even the Albanezy government,
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Speaker 2: And as a result, this entire case will now be ventilated.
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Speaker 3: In a court room.
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Speaker 2: Now hot off the back of some disastrous polling. This week,
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Speaker 2: Liberal front bencher Andrew Hasty wand that he would quit
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Speaker 2: the front bench if the party adopts a net zero policy,
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Speaker 2: a net zero by twenty fifty policy.
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Speaker 9: If Susan Lee, though supports net zero by twenty fifty,
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Speaker 9: where does that leave you?
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Speaker 7: That leaves me that a job.
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Speaker 3: I've nailed my colors to the mask.
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Speaker 7: Gary.
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Speaker 3: If I go over with the Tide in two and
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Speaker 3: a half years, that's great. And he is not the
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Speaker 3: only one.
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Speaker 2: Shadow Education Minister Jonathan Duniam is also now threatening to
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Speaker 2: pull the pin.
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Speaker 10: Net zero at any cost is something that only stupid
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Speaker 10: people would pursue.
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Speaker 4: If we just said net zero at any cost by
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Speaker 4: twenty fifty, I think you'd find there'd be a mass exodus.
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Speaker 2: Now, my understanding is that Susan Lee still has the
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Speaker 2: numbers to remain as leader. If there was a count
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Speaker 2: in the party room, she'd win a game. And the
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Speaker 2: majority of Liberals do want a non binding commitment to
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Speaker 2: net zero, not just to win back the Teal seats,
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Speaker 2: but to appeal to voters in suburban areas as well.
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Speaker 2: But the debate goes on and there's no sign of
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Speaker 2: a policy anytime soon. Joining me now to discuss this
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Speaker 2: shadow Foreign Affairs Minister Michadea Cash mcaviya, thank you so
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Speaker 2: much for your time again. Do you personally support the
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Speaker 2: commitment to net zero by twenty fifty.
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Speaker 7: Not at any cost, Shari?
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Speaker 11: And that is what mister Albanizi has so Australia up to.
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Speaker 11: Let me be very clear about what we are committed to,
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Speaker 11: as I think all Australians are reducing emissions. But I
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Speaker 11: am also very very clear, as has Susan Leeban, we
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Speaker 11: will not compromise Australian standard of living by doing so,
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Speaker 11: and that is what mister Ralbnizi has done.
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Speaker 7: I mean, you've currently got.
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Speaker 11: Chris Bowen, the relevant Minister, running around waving around a
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Speaker 11: scare campaign to justify Labor's reckless policies, and yet the
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Speaker 11: report that he refers to does not go anywhere near
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Speaker 11: the transition costs that the Australian public are paying for.
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Speaker 11: So we've been very clear. We've been very clear. We
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Speaker 11: all want to reduce emission, so tick that box. We
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Speaker 11: agree on that, but what we will not do is
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Speaker 11: compromise Australians and their living standard, which is what mister
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Speaker 11: Albanesi has done. Australians are currently paying around thirty nine
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Speaker 11: percent more for their energy, jobs are currently going offshore.
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Speaker 7: But what is worse, and this is.
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Speaker 11: Almost ironic given mister Albanesi's scare campaign, emissions have flatlined
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Speaker 11: under this government. So this is actually a test for
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Speaker 11: mister Albanesi. Mister Albanesi explained to the Australian people, while
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Speaker 11: why you are prepared to sign them up to a
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Speaker 11: legislated policy of net zero and you couldn't care less
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Speaker 11: about the cost?
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Speaker 7: Well, guess what we do care about Australia.
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Speaker 11: We care about Australians, We care about emissions. But I
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Speaker 11: tell you right now, we are not going to, as
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Speaker 11: Chris Allman has said, put Australia on a pathway to poverty,
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Speaker 11: which is what mister Albanese's climate crusade has done, a
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Speaker 11: poverty want a complete joke for mister Alberanesi to do
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Speaker 11: that to Australia and Australians.
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Speaker 2: So, just to be clear, do you think the Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party the official position should be to abandon NOTT zero
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Speaker 2: twenty fifty.
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Speaker 11: I think we're working through a process. We have a
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Speaker 11: broad church, people have many views. I've been very clear
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Speaker 11: on my view. You should not sign up to a
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Speaker 11: target that is now legislated without understanding the cost. Do
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Speaker 11: you know, Shari, what many people forget. This is an
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Speaker 11: aspirational target. You can meet it if you can, and
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Speaker 11: you shouldn't if you can't. Mister Alberanzi legislated this in
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Speaker 11: twenty twenty two. We opposed the legislation at the time.
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Speaker 7: Why did we oppose.
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Speaker 11: It, Shari, because we said we will not sign Australia
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Speaker 11: and Australians up to costs that we are not clear on.
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Speaker 11: And Chris Allman, as I said, he now sums it up.
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Speaker 11: Anthony Albanese's climate crusade is now putting Australia on a
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Speaker 11: puffwaight to poverty. I will never sign Australia or Australian's
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Speaker 11: up to a puffweight to poverty. And what mister Alberanzi
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Speaker 11: has done, he said, I don't care. I've legislated net
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Speaker 11: zero and I don't care about the cost. Well, I
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Speaker 11: don't agree with that, and I oppose the legislation at
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Speaker 11: the time, as did the coalition.
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Speaker 7: People forget that.
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Speaker 2: I want to get onto a couple of other topics,
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Speaker 2: but I just want to put to you the concerns
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Speaker 2: of some of your other colleagues in the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 2: They think that if they abandon the net zero policy,
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Speaker 2: it'll make it impossible to win back the tlcs and
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Speaker 2: even other suburban areas. What do you just quickly, what
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Speaker 2: do you say to them?
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Speaker 11: I say, it's not about abandoning net zero, because ultimately
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Speaker 11: what is net zero? Net zero is an aspirational target.
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Speaker 11: Some countries have said yes, we can meet it by
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Speaker 11: twenty fifty, others have said twenty sixty. Others have twenty seventy.
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Speaker 11: The United States has said forget it. So for me,
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Speaker 11: it's about the cost. Of course, I want to reduce emissions.
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Speaker 11: Everybody wants to reduce emissions.
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Speaker 7: But what I will not do.
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Speaker 11: Is blindly sign up to a target that I know
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Speaker 11: is going to put Australia on a puthway to poverty.
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Speaker 11: And I don't think there's any Australian out there who
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Speaker 11: wants to be put on a pathway to poverty. We
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Speaker 11: need to put the acid now on mister Albanesi and
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Speaker 11: mister Bowen. They need to be upfront about the trillions
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Speaker 11: of dollars in costs that their pathway to net zero
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Speaker 11: is going to cost Australia because guess what, the Australian people, Shahi,
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Speaker 11: are the ones who pay for it. I will always
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Speaker 11: put Australians at the heart of the energy debate and
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Speaker 11: I want lower prices for energy, not net zero at
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Speaker 11: any cost.
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Speaker 7: Mister Alberanzi couldn't care less.
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Speaker 2: Is the sort of language we've heard from Chris Bowen,
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Speaker 2: and I'm going to come back to him with my
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Speaker 2: panel in a moment. I just want to ask you
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Speaker 2: about We've seen US Secretary of State Marco Rubio and
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Speaker 2: Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu give a joint address. This was
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Speaker 2: happening as we went to air last night our time.
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Speaker 2: It was a powerful show of friendship.
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Speaker 1: Have a look.
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Speaker 12: Hamas needs to cease to exist as an armed element
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Speaker 12: that can threaten the peace and security of the region
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Speaker 12: and the people of Gods that deserve a better future.
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Speaker 12: But that better future cannot begin until Hamas is eliminated.
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Speaker 3: I mean, Mikhaylia.
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Speaker 2: Firstly, it seems that our leadership here has forgotten about
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Speaker 2: the hostages and they constantly call for a ceasefire instead
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Speaker 2: of for Hamas to be eliminated by Israel.
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Speaker 11: What do you think what an incredibly powerful statement between
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Speaker 11: the United States and Israel reminding us all Shahi that
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Speaker 11: Hamas is a terrorist organization dedicated solely to the destruction
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Speaker 11: of Israel, the only functioning democracy in the Middle East
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Speaker 11: that is a great friend and ally of Australia. The
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Speaker 11: point that Marco Rubio was making is that Humas must
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Speaker 11: be eliminated. They cannot be allowed to exist as a
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Speaker 11: terrorist army constantly threatening peace and stability in the region.
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Speaker 11: But also it was a reminder that there are still
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Speaker 11: hostages almost two years on Shari in those tunnels being
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Speaker 11: held by the terrorists.
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Speaker 7: Now hamascould end this tomorrow. All they need to.
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Speaker 11: Do is lay down their arms, surrender, acknowledges Rail's right
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Speaker 11: to exist going forward, and release the hostages. But I
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Speaker 11: think for me, what the stark reminder with the statement
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Speaker 11: by Marco Rubio was this, what a contrasted is Shari
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Speaker 11: with our prime minister. You've got Marco Rubio reminding us
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Speaker 11: all that Hamasa terrorists.
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Speaker 7: Well, next week, what's mister ALBINIZI going to do.
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Speaker 11: He's going to go off to the United Nation General
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Speaker 11: Assembly and he is going to give the terrorists from
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Speaker 11: US what they have described as the fruits of the
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Speaker 11: slaughter of October seventh, twenty twenty three. He is going
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Speaker 11: to recognize Palestinia's a state. I will continue to remind
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Speaker 11: people of my very simple principle. From US are terrorists.
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Speaker 11: You do not reward terrorists. Shame on you, mister alban Esi.
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Speaker 11: Instead of standing with a friend and an ally a
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Speaker 11: democracy fighting for not just its life, Shahi, but for
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Speaker 11: the freedoms that we have and live on a daily basis,
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Speaker 11: you reward the terrorists.
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Speaker 3: Couldn't.
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Speaker 7: That's not what a lada does.
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Speaker 3: You'm so well said.
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Speaker 2: Just finally, because we're just about out of time, but
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Speaker 2: I want to ask you about ahead of Trump's meeting
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Speaker 2: with alban Easy. You know, the government's announced twelve billion
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Speaker 2: dollars to overhaul a Perth shipyard. This is in preparation
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Speaker 2: for Okas submarines. But what I want to ask you
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Speaker 2: about is because of this spending, the defenseman is Richard
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Speaker 2: Miles is now claiming that Australia is actually spanning two
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Speaker 2: point eight percent of GDP on defense. Do you think
23:08
Speaker 2: Miles is using an incorrect metric here?
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Speaker 11: Well, Richard Miles needs to understand that Australians actually need
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Speaker 11: defense capability, not creative bookkeeping.
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Speaker 7: I mean, this is a.
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Speaker 11: Government that will spin the number shari any which way
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Speaker 11: they can to justify their policy. Let's look at what
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Speaker 11: the International measurement says. The International Measurement, which is the
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Speaker 11: standard that is used, says that Australia is spending around
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Speaker 11: two percent, not anywhere near the two point eight percent
23:44
Speaker 11: in creative accounting, in creative bookkeeping that Richard Miles is
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Speaker 11: referring to. So Richard Miles needs to get serious. He
23:53
Speaker 11: needs to deliver a increased defense spending. We've said three
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Speaker 11: percent and no less, which is our commitment. B. He
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Speaker 11: needs to deliver the actual capability for us to defend
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Speaker 11: our nation. And see, enough with the theatrics, enough with
24:10
Speaker 11: the creative accounting and the creative bookkeeping. That does not
24:15
Speaker 11: defend Australia actual investment by way of dollars and capability does.
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Speaker 7: So I think mister Miles was just.
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Speaker 11: Pulling the other one quite frankly, because the International Measurement
24:28
Speaker 11: completely blows his statistics out of the water.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and he's obviously doing it ahead of the meeting
24:33
Speaker 2: to try and make it a bit easier with correct
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Speaker 2: Trump and Albo. All Right, mickay Cash, thank you so
24:39
Speaker 2: much for your time. Great to have you on again,
24:42
Speaker 2: and let's bring in our Daily Telegraph journalist James Willison
24:45
Speaker 2: from a Labor State secretary and chief of staff, Carara Mina, Welcome,
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Speaker 2: and James, I want to go back to the topic
24:52
Speaker 2: that I was just speaking about with mickay Cash about
24:55
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen and.
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Speaker 3: His comments this week.
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Speaker 2: Now you've written in the Telly about his that assessment,
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Speaker 2: saying that basically even just the report alone, I understand,
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Speaker 2: is going to cost taxpayers nearly twenty three million dollars.
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Speaker 3: James, take us through this.
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Speaker 10: Yeah, for about three hundred and fifty internal public service
25:19
Speaker 10: staff and external researchers and sciences Sharry twenty two point
25:24
Speaker 10: nine million dollars the cost to get this report two
25:27
Speaker 10: hundred and eighty four pages out. And I think the
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Speaker 10: really interesting thing and this is what people need to
25:32
Speaker 10: keep top of mind, right. I believe the language has
25:35
Speaker 10: been deliberately alarmist and has deliberately tried to scare people
25:40
Speaker 10: because Labor knows in a couple of days they're about
25:43
Speaker 10: to announce what their emissions reduction targets.
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Speaker 1: Are going to be for twenty thirty five.
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Speaker 10: We already know they've legislated the first cuts, but then
25:50
Speaker 10: they're going to go again and their pushes on to
25:53
Speaker 10: make them further.
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Speaker 1: And they've got this report which is cover that.
25:57
Speaker 10: At every turn, every time someone questions the ecks or
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Speaker 10: the environmental damage, or the farming damage, or the damage
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Speaker 10: to industry and jobs of the net zero transformation, they
26:07
Speaker 10: can say.
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Speaker 1: Well, hold on, have a look at this.
26:09
Speaker 10: Coral reef's gone, rainforest gone, one point five million people
26:13
Speaker 10: in coastal communities will be flooded, you know, extreme heat
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Speaker 10: wave depths in the years ahead, heat wave depths increasing
26:21
Speaker 10: by four hundred and forty percent in Sydney alone.
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Speaker 1: And Chris Bowen's got that cover.
26:26
Speaker 10: To be able to legislate or go as hard as
26:28
Speaker 10: he likes to reduce emissions, Approve more wind farms, make
26:33
Speaker 10: the planning system easier, get rid of petrol cars, do
26:36
Speaker 10: everything possible to try and get to this target. And ultimately,
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Speaker 10: at the end of the day, as michhaylay Cash said before,
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Speaker 10: we're the ones that are going to suffer.
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Speaker 1: Electricity builds through the roof.
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Speaker 10: And sadly, whatever we do will not save the planet
26:50
Speaker 10: on its own.
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Speaker 2: Exactly because our emissions make up just around one percent
26:56
Speaker 2: or so. Cameron, you are one of the only people
26:58
Speaker 2: I know who is who thinks Chris Bowmen's doing a
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Speaker 2: terrific job. But the twenty thirty five targets that are
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Speaker 2: yet to be announced are expected to be very ambitious,
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Speaker 2: but potentially around sixty or sixty five percent, And.
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Speaker 3: This will impact further.
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Speaker 2: On industry, business and general life electricity bills, won't it.
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Speaker 13: It will, Shari and I think that's the great challenge.
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Speaker 13: And if the Liberals weren't talking about themselves and talking
27:24
Speaker 13: about dropping that zero by twenty fifty, they can actually
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Speaker 13: put some pressure on Albanez over this because at the
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Speaker 13: moment with twenty eight percent, we're definitely going to fall
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Speaker 13: short of forty three percent by twenty thirty and then
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Speaker 13: the Greens, the ACF and the hard Greens want us
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Speaker 13: to get to seventy five percent. Seventy five percent, so
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Speaker 13: sixty sixty five is not going to cut for Albanies.
27:41
Speaker 13: It needs to have a seven in front of it,
27:42
Speaker 13: was what John Delaboscar said the other day. So it's
27:44
Speaker 13: a huge, huge step change in terms of climate reduction,
27:48
Speaker 13: climate targets, and that will come with a cost to business,
27:51
Speaker 13: to industry and to people's hip pocket when they pay
27:53
Speaker 13: them electricity bills. So that's what the debates should be about.
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Speaker 13: But Labor feels no pressure because the Liberals have given
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Speaker 13: it to them for free.
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Speaker 2: At the moment, maybe they need to hire you, Cameron
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Speaker 2: to help advise them and how to beat Albo. That
28:05
Speaker 2: would be That would be quite something, wouldn't you. All Right,
28:08
Speaker 2: let's move on to the Prime minister's bungled Pacific tour.
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Speaker 2: He's been in Papua New Guinea to sign this landmark
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Speaker 2: defense treaty, but at this rate it doesn't look like
28:17
Speaker 2: that's going to happen. This was fresh off the back
28:19
Speaker 2: of returning from Banuatu, where a deal to freeze out
28:22
Speaker 2: China from the region seemed to also suddenly go on ice.
28:25
Speaker 2: I mean, James, do you think Penny Wong has handled
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Speaker 2: the relationship with the Pacific?
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Speaker 1: Well, well, there's two ways of looking at this, Sherry.
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Speaker 10: Firstly, when they were in opposition, Labor called out the
28:35
Speaker 10: Coalition repeatedly for not doing enough in the Pacific. And
28:40
Speaker 10: you know Maurice Paine, who was a Foreign Minister was
28:42
Speaker 10: apparently missing for a couple of things in the shadow
28:45
Speaker 10: of the Assistant minister rather was sent instead. But look,
28:48
Speaker 10: I think the only thing I'd say in defense of
28:50
Speaker 10: labor is that China's influence, which has been acknowledged repeatedly
28:54
Speaker 10: in the last few days by the US in the Pacific,
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Speaker 10: particularly on the financial front, is getting to a point.
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Speaker 1: Now where Australia I think has just been caught short.
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Speaker 10: They've turned up expecting to get a deal done, offering
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Speaker 10: an awful amount of money.
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Speaker 1: I might our this is all one way.
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Speaker 10: Financially, We're talking five hundred million dollars to one country,
29:12
Speaker 10: six hundred million dollars to another, a lot of things
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Speaker 10: that we're giving as part of this, but unfortunately China
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Speaker 10: are the debt level that some of these countries have
29:21
Speaker 10: to China, and the way that China has infiltrated and
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Speaker 10: influenced and in some cases bribed off Pacific MPs and
29:30
Speaker 10: parliamentary officials means that we've got a lot of work
29:32
Speaker 10: to do in this space. And unfortunately, you look at
29:35
Speaker 10: a country like the Solomon Islands where China is now
29:37
Speaker 10: doing what the ID checks and basically taking.
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Speaker 1: Over by self, We've got some big.
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Speaker 10: Issues here in the old days of turning up and
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Speaker 10: doing a deal in the Pacific with our great partners
29:47
Speaker 10: including P and G sadly aren't what they used to be.
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Speaker 2: Cameron, do you think too much taxpayer money has been
29:54
Speaker 2: spent when there's not enough to show for it?
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Speaker 13: Well, there's nothing to show for it, is there shar
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Speaker 13: been the abject failure, abject failure of Penny Wong defact
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Speaker 13: and Anthony ALBINIZI. I mean he should have shown up
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Speaker 13: to where our Pacific friends and actually got deals done. Instead,
30:08
Speaker 13: China interfered every single stage. They bulleted the Vanuada trip.
30:12
Speaker 13: They have a police state fingerprinting every single Solomon Islander
30:16
Speaker 13: innocent people as well. And the part Minister could make
30:18
Speaker 13: a single comment about that and he shooting up to
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Speaker 13: P ANDNG not quite knowing whether the deal could be
30:22
Speaker 13: signed tomorrow. This is a disaster. I mean, Penny Wong's
30:25
Speaker 13: off being pals with Palestine and the Pacific is turning
30:28
Speaker 13: red on her watch.
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Speaker 9: Hmmm.
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Speaker 2: No, I think you really do need to consider advising
30:33
Speaker 2: the liberals genuinely, although perhaps on and Chris Bowen, I
30:37
Speaker 2: just want to stick with you for a minute, Cameron,
30:39
Speaker 2: because Donald Trump is set to arrive in the UK
30:42
Speaker 2: for a second state visit, trade talks etc.
30:45
Speaker 3: On the agenda.
30:46
Speaker 2: But Keir Starmer's looking fragile at best in the polls.
30:51
Speaker 2: There were huge protests in London over on the weekend.
30:54
Speaker 2: And by the way, I've got Tommy Robinson on the
30:56
Speaker 2: show tomorrow night. I'll show you a clip from that
30:58
Speaker 2: interview later. But you know, Cameron, this is not looking
31:03
Speaker 2: good in the UK for Starma.
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Speaker 13: It isn't And you and I spoke from London only
31:09
Speaker 13: about three weeks ago about this where Starma's situation was
31:11
Speaker 13: turning very badly for him. I mean, he's losing group
31:14
Speaker 13: on domestic politics. He's lost a deputy prime minister to
31:16
Speaker 13: a tax scandal. He's lost Peter Menelssen to an Epstein scandal.
31:20
Speaker 13: This guy's looking really really wobbly only fourteen months into
31:23
Speaker 13: a government after a landslide victory. Pick the parallel in Australia, Shari.
31:27
Speaker 13: If he's actually a government like that is actually put
31:29
Speaker 13: under pressure, then voters, as Graham Richardson Alway says, get
31:33
Speaker 13: it right.
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Speaker 8: And that's what's happened to Starma.
31:34
Speaker 13: The voters are turned on him.
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Speaker 2: Well, if they're put under pressure, and that's the problem
31:39
Speaker 2: with having a weak opposition, you know that is the
31:41
Speaker 2: major problem right.
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Speaker 13: Now, absolutely, Shari.
31:44
Speaker 2: James Will Let's look forward to reading your report tomorrow
31:47
Speaker 2: in the Telly Camera. Milan A great to have you
31:48
Speaker 2: both on now still to come. What you can do
31:52
Speaker 2: to prevent dementia? Not often sentence you here, what you
31:56
Speaker 2: can do to prevent dementia? Professor Henry BRODHATI would join
31:59
Speaker 2: me as a national can pay kicks off and the
32:01
Speaker 2: outrageous move from Eurovision to kick out Israel Radio.
32:04
Speaker 3: Hardley will be here to fire up next. Welcome back.
32:12
Speaker 2: Well, it goes without saying that it's a really tough
32:14
Speaker 2: time at the moment for the Liberal Party federally and
32:17
Speaker 2: opposition leader Susan Lee joining me now to discuss is
32:21
Speaker 2: Radio legend Ray Hardley Ray worst ever news poll this
32:25
Speaker 2: week twenty seven percent.
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Speaker 3: Not a surprise, real tough.
32:28
Speaker 14: One word, disastrous is another. And as I say, and
32:32
Speaker 14: I've said repeatedly on your program and in other places,
32:35
Speaker 14: Susan Lee is not capable of leading this government to win.
32:40
Speaker 14: And now the most likely person to win an election,
32:43
Speaker 14: Andrew Hasty, has decided that would net zero. And I
32:46
Speaker 14: heard McAuley Cash talk expertly about it earlier. If that's
32:50
Speaker 14: the way they're going, he has to resign from the
32:52
Speaker 14: shadow front bench and disappear.
32:54
Speaker 8: And you see there are parallels here.
32:57
Speaker 14: And I know it's a broader issue about conservatism, but
33:00
Speaker 14: in the UK at the moment you've had a Conservative
33:03
Speaker 14: shadow minister throw his lot in with Nigel Ferra. Okay,
33:07
Speaker 14: so any Kruge is his name, and so he said, look,
33:11
Speaker 14: the Conservative vote's been lost here. The party is no
33:14
Speaker 14: longer what it used to be. And I started to
33:16
Speaker 14: think of the parallels here, both in New South Wales,
33:20
Speaker 14: Victoria and federally, and John Howard said it so eloquently
33:25
Speaker 14: last week on your program. We need a point of difference.
33:28
Speaker 14: Now the obvious point of difference would be net zero.
33:31
Speaker 14: That's the obvious one. But listening to mcalia, it appears
33:34
Speaker 14: Susan Lee wants to go down this net zero path.
33:38
Speaker 8: So I did some investigation today.
33:41
Speaker 1: Eight point eight billion tons of coal was.
33:45
Speaker 8: On the marketplace last year twenty twenty four.
33:48
Speaker 14: That's the most coal in the history of coal exploration.
33:52
Speaker 14: The two biggest uses of coal, India and China, thermal
33:58
Speaker 14: coal in New South Wales, our biggest per which is Japan.
34:01
Speaker 14: So with this nonsense of casnova bowing today again it's
34:05
Speaker 14: a pipe tream. It's ideologically, you know, it's their idea,
34:09
Speaker 14: but it's not possible of happening.
34:10
Speaker 8: They can't get there.
34:12
Speaker 14: Not while China and India are gobbling up coal to
34:16
Speaker 14: the tune of eight point eight billion tons a year.
34:19
Speaker 2: We could have no emissions and as long as there's
34:23
Speaker 2: continue to increase, it makes no difference to the global
34:27
Speaker 2: emissions output.
34:28
Speaker 8: None whatsoever.
34:28
Speaker 14: I mean, it's a record amount of coal in the
34:31
Speaker 14: marketplace last year, eight point eight billion. And yet this
34:35
Speaker 14: this minister gests, drive me cuckoo, with this ideological fanfare
34:42
Speaker 14: about what he wants to achieve. Even someone from the
34:44
Speaker 14: Granton Institute like Toney would have said, we don't know
34:48
Speaker 14: what's going to happen in fifty years now. I know
34:50
Speaker 14: that I'll be labeled a climate alarmist and you know,
34:53
Speaker 14: and all the rest of it. And I'm anti climate,
34:55
Speaker 14: you know, but it's the look the weather vierea. I
34:58
Speaker 14: can't tell me what's going to happen next Monday with
35:00
Speaker 14: any Surely it's they're going to reign weight. It's a
35:03
Speaker 14: toss of the coin power. Can they tell me what's
35:06
Speaker 14: going to happen in fifty years. I mean they're backing
35:09
Speaker 14: science and some of the scientists say no, I don't
35:11
Speaker 14: think it's going to happen, and so all of a sudden,
35:13
Speaker 14: I'm going to.
35:13
Speaker 8: Earn the side of caution.
35:14
Speaker 15: But that's all well and good to earn the side
35:16
Speaker 15: of caution.
35:17
Speaker 14: But while they'rever China and India building coal fight power stations,
35:22
Speaker 14: hundreds hundreds of them, and we're we're selling them coal obviously.
35:27
Speaker 15: I mean, the age is a pineapple. It's just ridiculous.
35:29
Speaker 15: It's just it's.
35:30
Speaker 14: Mind boggling that the Liberal Party can't see the folly.
35:34
Speaker 14: Like Andrew Hasty camp Well, I think.
35:36
Speaker 2: The issue with the Liberal Party is they need strong leadership.
35:40
Speaker 2: They need a leader who can inspire Australians, take Australians
35:44
Speaker 2: on a conversation, and there is no one really in
35:47
Speaker 2: Parliament at the moment who can who has that ability,
35:50
Speaker 2: and that's you know, someone to connect with voters, someone
35:53
Speaker 2: who's got charisma leadership.
35:55
Speaker 14: I just heard you say when you were talking Macalla
35:57
Speaker 14: and correct me if I'm wrong. You said that there
35:58
Speaker 14: wouldn't be move against it, and Lee because she's still
36:00
Speaker 14: work with.
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Speaker 3: The numbers at the moment right now, what are you.
36:03
Speaker 8: Thinking in camp?
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Speaker 15: I mean, take off your heads and put on a pumpkin.
36:08
Speaker 14: The lowest since news poll has been done.
36:12
Speaker 2: Do you know what someone said to me today? A
36:15
Speaker 2: liberal who's a critic, said that Susan Lee and her
36:18
Speaker 2: office are spending more time trying to promote her personal
36:22
Speaker 2: brand than worrying about policies. They're just not worrying about
36:26
Speaker 2: policies and you can see that there's no policies out
36:29
Speaker 2: there for months on what are they going to argue for?
36:31
Speaker 14: Well, news Pole would have to say, based on today's result,
36:34
Speaker 14: whoever is promoting Susan Lee's abilities is not doing a.
36:38
Speaker 8: Very good job.
36:39
Speaker 2: Well indeed, all right, let's get to a couple of
36:41
Speaker 2: other topics. I was keen to ask you about the
36:44
Speaker 2: Prime minister. I covered this at length on my show
36:46
Speaker 2: last night, Albert Easy abandoning his electored office because of
36:50
Speaker 2: the pro Palestinian protesters. How weak is a prime minister?
36:54
Speaker 2: A Prime minister who can't stand up to the mob.
36:57
Speaker 14: I've heard your comments on replay about that. Very simple solution.
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Speaker 15: He agrees with them, He agrees with what they're doing.
37:05
Speaker 14: So because of the church nearby saying we can't have
37:08
Speaker 14: this nonsense's disrupting us, they're moving his electoral office. But
37:13
Speaker 14: it just I'm not surprised by it, because in another
37:17
Speaker 14: time and another day, he'd be out there with a
37:20
Speaker 14: kf on doing exactly what they're doing. And if you
37:22
Speaker 14: listen to the rantings. I listened to some audio today
37:26
Speaker 14: of a young blake out the front. I mean it's
37:28
Speaker 14: extreme left. If it wasn't Israel and Gaza to be
37:32
Speaker 14: some other lame brain thing they'd be talking about. And
37:35
Speaker 14: it's just there are older people involved as well, but
37:38
Speaker 14: it's young people who have no idea of the history
37:41
Speaker 14: of all of this. And I'm not surprised that he
37:44
Speaker 14: hasn't resisted by him moving them staying, because it would
37:48
Speaker 14: take him to say to the AFP, in conjunction with
37:50
Speaker 14: you South Bostolas, round them up and get them away.
37:53
Speaker 8: But he won't do it because he believes what they're
37:55
Speaker 8: doing is right.
37:56
Speaker 14: By the fact that he's going to the United Nations
37:59
Speaker 14: on behalf of the US in state.
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Speaker 2: Exactly and look, police can find the way to do
38:04
Speaker 2: these things.
38:04
Speaker 3: They did it during COVID.
38:06
Speaker 2: You know, they were very tough on breastfeeding mothers who
38:09
Speaker 2: dared to sit down on a park bench like.
38:12
Speaker 8: I say, the Prime Minister doesn't want them to move.
38:13
Speaker 15: He'd rather move himself exactly.
38:15
Speaker 2: And the other point and you know, I don't want
38:16
Speaker 2: to defame anyone. So maybe these people have night time jobs,
38:20
Speaker 2: but don't.
38:21
Speaker 3: They you know, when are they working? Maybe they have
38:24
Speaker 3: night time jobs. You know they're there all day.
38:26
Speaker 8: We spoke about sovereign citizens last week. Now.
38:30
Speaker 14: They hate authority, they hate the police, they hate big government.
38:34
Speaker 8: I hate all this.
38:34
Speaker 14: But they're on the rock and roll, they're on the
38:36
Speaker 14: centerlink for a whole range of things. So they don't
38:40
Speaker 14: hate them enough to say we don't want your filthy Luca.
38:43
Speaker 14: And the same applies to these people, and we can
38:46
Speaker 14: we're not faming any one, identified anyone.
38:49
Speaker 8: They know who they are. True.
38:51
Speaker 3: Let's turn to Eurovision.
38:52
Speaker 2: So there's a whole number of countries now that are
38:55
Speaker 2: saying they will boycott Eurovision if Israel continues to participate.
39:00
Speaker 2: This includes Netherlands, Spain, Iceland, Ireland, Slovenia and Belgium. They've
39:05
Speaker 2: all threatened to pull out if Israel continues to take part.
39:08
Speaker 2: So it's been reported that Eurovision has given Israel too
39:11
Speaker 2: options they can either withdraw or participate, not under the
39:16
Speaker 2: Israeli flag. Now the comparisons by the Spanish Prime Minister
39:20
Speaker 2: has been made to Russia. This is nothing like Russia
39:23
Speaker 2: because Hamas invaded Israel on October.
39:26
Speaker 14: Seven, yes, and Russia of course invader Ukraine and the
39:31
Speaker 14: murder continues. But look, if they say they won't participate,
39:35
Speaker 14: the people who organize Eurovision should simply say, well, don't
39:38
Speaker 14: because we're not going to allow you to tell us
39:40
Speaker 14: how to run Eurovision. Of course Israel who have a
39:43
Speaker 14: great tradition of appearing there, and some greatly talented people obviously,
39:47
Speaker 14: but I could care less what these winging, whining nations
39:50
Speaker 14: are doing. I mean, it's again typifying what we're putting up,
39:55
Speaker 14: not just in Australia or UK, but right across Europe.
39:57
Speaker 14: I mean, right across Europe have overtaken the world. They've
40:02
Speaker 14: overtaken the world. Unfortunately, to try and rectify it is
40:06
Speaker 14: going to be difficult, not just here but across the globe.
40:08
Speaker 2: Especially because you have organizations like Eurovision, but many others
40:11
Speaker 2: who succumb to the pressure, succumb to the boycott and
40:15
Speaker 2: the demands.
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Speaker 14: Well, I guess they're scared of the ramplifications and what
40:20
Speaker 14: it would take with someone with strong leadership to say, no,
40:22
Speaker 14: we're not going to do this. We're going to do
40:24
Speaker 14: exactly what we normally do, and if nations nominate or
40:26
Speaker 14: don't nomin eight will continue to run the competition.
40:28
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly.
40:30
Speaker 2: And the other point to make on that, of course,
40:33
Speaker 2: is that it was at the Nova Music Festival when
40:35
Speaker 2: three hundred and seventy eight Israelis were killed.
40:38
Speaker 3: This is another music festival.
40:40
Speaker 2: I mean they should be having a special vigil for
40:44
Speaker 2: the Israelis, not banning them.
40:46
Speaker 14: No, just ridiculous. Can I just make one final point.
40:49
Speaker 14: I did a piece yesterday on Mark Speakman, who for
40:53
Speaker 14: people in other states and territories he's like Susan Lee,
40:56
Speaker 14: except these in New.
40:57
Speaker 2: South wald and not just father said for people in
40:58
Speaker 2: New South Wales as well, they don't you know?
41:01
Speaker 8: No, well, you're probably right.
41:02
Speaker 14: For everyone viewing he's a leader of the opposition, you
41:05
Speaker 14: wouldn't know it. And I said yesterday that his office
41:08
Speaker 14: is run a bit like he's a senior council King's counsel.
41:12
Speaker 14: So his office at the moment is run a bit
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Speaker 14: like I'm told by insiders, a legal chamber. So instead
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Speaker 14: of prosecuting the case for the electorate, it's like going
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Speaker 14: into a legal chamber of Macquarie Street or Martin Place,
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Speaker 14: and it's run by lawyers, including the boss. He's a lawyer,
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Speaker 14: and many people in there are lawyers. And I'm with
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Speaker 14: all due respect to lawyers, some of my dearest friends
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Speaker 14: are high ranking QC's and scus who protected me from defamation,
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Speaker 14: rich and all the rest of it.
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Speaker 15: But at the end of the day, he said, after.
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Speaker 14: The clam of fiasco where they lost, well, where do
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Speaker 14: we go from here? And then he came up with
41:52
Speaker 14: all these reasons why he should remain leader. I'll tell
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Speaker 14: you where you should go. Mark out the back door
41:56
Speaker 14: as quickly as you possibly can. Because while ever you
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Speaker 14: lead the party in New South Wales every day you
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Speaker 14: were there, they're a day further away.
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Speaker 8: From Chris Mins.
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Speaker 14: And I should just tell you, I don't think this
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Speaker 14: is a private conversation.
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Speaker 8: Chris Mins.
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Speaker 15: I was at a function I was at last night.
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Speaker 14: Chrismins was at a function and I get on ready
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Speaker 14: well with Christmas, and he came to the table where
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Speaker 14: I was at the function for the Olympic celebrations, and
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Speaker 14: he sort of animated to me that he'd seen what
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Speaker 14: I said about Mark Speakman. I think he was half
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Speaker 14: by suggesting I should leave him malone because.
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Speaker 3: He wants him to stay there, of course.
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Speaker 14: Because I think that's his best I said, look, if
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Speaker 14: he's there.
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Speaker 15: You'll win two more terms, not one.
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Speaker 3: Kelly Sloan's a much bigger threat.
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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, exactly.
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Speaker 3: That's funny.
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Speaker 2: You've got to share more conversations that you're not sure
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Speaker 2: if they're private.
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Speaker 10: Right.
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Speaker 14: Well, it was a conversation in front of my wife,
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Speaker 14: and so there were others. There were others listening who
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Speaker 14: may have been just having a listen.
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Speaker 8: But anyway, Chris, I hope I haven't portrayed a comment.
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Speaker 14: Chris, let me kept telling you, I'm going to keep
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Speaker 14: handing Mark Speakman regardless of what you say.
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Speaker 3: Chris Men's endorsing Mark Spiegman comversation leader. Very hardly great
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Speaker 3: to see you.
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Speaker 8: Thank you all right?
43:00
Speaker 3: Still to come. One of the bank style nurses.
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Speaker 2: Sacked over that awful video has had a charge dropped
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Speaker 2: that news a little later, plus the national campaign warning
43:08
Speaker 2: dementia is not unpreventable. That's next, welcome back well. Dementia
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Speaker 2: affects four hundred and forty thousand Australians. It's the leading
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Speaker 2: cause of death for Australian women and the second for men.
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Speaker 2: Unsw eminent professor of aging and mental health Henry Badherty
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Speaker 2: wrote in The Australian this week that we now stand
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Speaker 2: at a turning point in the fight against Alzheimer's.
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Speaker 3: The science is clear.
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Speaker 2: Up to forty five percent of dementia cases may be
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Speaker 2: preventable through targeted lifestyle changes. But science alone is not enough.
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Speaker 2: If we are to change the future, we need leadership,
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Speaker 2: investment and a public shift in mindset urgently, and Professor
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Speaker 2: Henry Braderti joins me. Now, thank you very much for
43:53
Speaker 2: your time. So how can dementia be prevented?
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Speaker 16: The are many lifestyles things that we can do to
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Speaker 16: delay the onset of dementia, and generally what's good for
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Speaker 16: our heart is good for our brain. So physical exercise,
44:12
Speaker 16: keeping a brain active, keeping socially active, eating a healthy diet,
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Speaker 16: watching our blood pressure and treating it if it's high,
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Speaker 16: simiply if our cholesterol, trying to avoid head injury, diabetes
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Speaker 16: and high cholesterol or treating them. So there's a lot
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Speaker 16: we can do. And we know that people, for example,
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Speaker 16: have hearing problems have a slightly higher rated dementia and
44:37
Speaker 16: if so, we're hearing aids they can ameliorate that risk.
44:41
Speaker 16: So the Lancet came out last year and they sent
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Speaker 16: about forty five percent of the risk are preventable factors
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Speaker 16: that are within our grasp to be able to reduce
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Speaker 16: or stop it. If we could stop all of those things,
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Speaker 16: we'd be able to save at least half the cases.
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Speaker 2: And so this is why there is a new campaign
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Speaker 2: running with support from news kop as well.
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Speaker 3: Can you tell us about this campaign?
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Speaker 16: The campaign is called Think Dementia and if you don't
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Speaker 16: think you're going to get dementia, think again. We all
45:17
Speaker 16: have a high rate of getting dementia as we get older.
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Speaker 16: It doubles every five years. If you think there's nothing
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Speaker 16: we can do, think again. There are many things we
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Speaker 16: can do, as I've just mentioned, and even if you
45:30
Speaker 16: have dementia, there are things we can do to live
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Speaker 16: positively with dementia for many years. In the latest stages,
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Speaker 16: it's always very sad, but there are many years people
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Speaker 16: can live well with dementia.
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Speaker 2: Now this cause is particularly close to your heart. Can
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Speaker 2: you tell us a little about your father.
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Speaker 14: Thanks Charlie.
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Speaker 16: My father developed dementia at the age of fifty two
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Speaker 16: and he died at fifty nine, and that was very,
45:58
Speaker 16: so so younger. I was only in my thirties at
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Speaker 16: the time, and it was after he died that I
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Speaker 16: became involved in trying to work in the field of
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Speaker 16: dementia and I started working clinically, and then I started
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Speaker 16: doing research, and by about nineteen ninety I've moved full
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Speaker 16: time as a professor of aging and mental health and
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Speaker 16: doing research, advocating and being involved with the formation of
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Speaker 16: what was then the Alzheimer's Association now as Dementia Australia,
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Speaker 16: both at a state, national and international level.
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Speaker 2: Look, if there are people watching this, we've just got
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Speaker 2: under a minute left, or what are some of the
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Speaker 2: early onset symptoms people should look out for.
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Speaker 16: Well, the commonest one is memory problems. Now we all
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Speaker 16: forget our keys were somewhere or somebody's name, But if
46:46
Speaker 16: it's progressive, if it's something to interfere with day to
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Speaker 16: day function, it's not just forgetting things but having trouble
46:51
Speaker 16: finding words for things, or not being able to progress concepts,
46:55
Speaker 16: or getting lost in familiar places. It's time to go
46:59
Speaker 16: and see and get an assessments.
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Speaker 2: All right, professor, thank you so much for your time
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Speaker 2: and your hard work over the decades.
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Speaker 3: Really appreciate it. Thank you.
47:08
Speaker 2: Now, still to come the shocking news about one of
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Speaker 2: the nurses charged with allegedly threatening Israeli Max Weifer. Plus
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Speaker 2: a snippet from my interview with Tommy Robinson that's airing
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night. You would have seen over the weekend the
47:23
Speaker 2: massive anti immigration protests in London and they were organized
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Speaker 2: by controversial figure Tommy Robinson. He'll be on the show
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Speaker 2: tomorrow night for an exclusive interview.
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Speaker 3: Here's a snippet of what he has to say.
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Speaker 2: The mainstream media has reported that the crowd size is
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Speaker 2: around one hundred thousand. Others estimate there were a million
47:43
Speaker 2: people or more. How many people do you think were there?
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Speaker 2: And regardless of the exact number, why did so many
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Speaker 2: turn up?
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Speaker 14: I'd say that that is the largest demonstration in British
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Speaker 14: history and they don't want to accept it.
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Speaker 8: They don't want to admit.
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Speaker 2: All right, So that'll be on tomorrow night at eight o'clock.
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Speaker 2: Tommy Robinson, highly controversial figure. You have to hear what
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Speaker 2: he has to say. Now to the news breaking today
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Speaker 2: about the nurses who appeared in a viral video allegedly
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Speaker 2: threatening Israeli social media star Max Weifer. In February, the
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Speaker 2: pair armed Rushed n Idea and Sarah Abdu Lebda were
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Speaker 2: both stood down from their jobs with New South Wales Health.
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Speaker 2: You might remember the Health Minister Ryan Park took immediate action.
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Speaker 2: But today the court heard that one of the chargers
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Speaker 2: against Abu Lebdair has already been dropped by prosecutors, the
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Speaker 2: charge of using a carriage service to threaten to kill
48:39
Speaker 2: a carriage service. The remaining charges threatening violence to a
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Speaker 2: group and using a carriage service to menace, harass or
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Speaker 2: offend will be the subject of a case conference in
48:49
Speaker 2: October where her lawyers will negotiate with prosecutors. So this
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Speaker 2: case is still ongoing.
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Speaker 7: Imed.
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Speaker 2: Rushed Idea's lawyer had flagged that he intended to argue
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Speaker 2: the incriminating video was obtained illegally and that he'll seek
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Speaker 2: to challenge its admissibility in court. Still a big story, alright,
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Speaker 2: that's all we've got time for today. I'll see you
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Speaker 2: tomorrow at eight o'clock and stay tuned. Right now, here's
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Speaker 2: Paul Murray with yet another amazing editorial