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The SHOCKING Truth About MEN's Reactions to HUMILIATION · Honey Badger Radio

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  Speaker 1: Okay, and we're live. Hello everybody, and welcome back to
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  Speaker 1: Honey Badger Radio. My name is Brian Allison, and this
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  Speaker 1: is red Chill Cinema. We're finally doing those again. Men.
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  Speaker 1: Don't you dare get mad at women who humiliate you?
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  Speaker 2: Shall I explain the title?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah? Go ahead, explain the title? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: All right. So essentially, I read this article from I
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  Speaker 2: think it's Hollywood Watch about the.
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  Speaker 1: Latest film industry watch.
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  Speaker 2: It's called Film Industry Watch, and it's about this latest
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  Speaker 2: trend in media of how would you describe it? Essentially,
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  Speaker 2: it is a condemnation of men, either their incompetent or
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  Speaker 2: their predatory and the climax is that women kill them
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  Speaker 2: as you do. Right, It's sort of like basically birth
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  Speaker 2: of a Nation, except feminists. So it's sort of like
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  Speaker 2: that the whole thing where Helen pluck Rowse and and
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  Speaker 2: her co conspirators published Mind COUMP, except they changed, they
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  Speaker 2: changed jew demand, and they got it published in a
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  Speaker 2: modern feminist academic paper. Well, all of this cinema is
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  Speaker 2: basically just birth of the nation. And if you don't
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  Speaker 2: know what birth of the nation is, it basically revolves
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  Speaker 2: around the lynching of a black man who is predatory
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  Speaker 2: towards a white woman. And yeah, that's that's media. That's
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  Speaker 2: modern media. They just they just do that show that
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  Speaker 2: that that movie over and over and over again, except
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  Speaker 2: the black person as a man, the KKK as women,
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  Speaker 2: and there you go, and never do you actually question
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  Speaker 2: the premise that men are uniquely sexually predatory. But if
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  Speaker 2: men are upset over this, this is this is the
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  Speaker 2: final you know what. Actually that's spoilers. But the title,
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  Speaker 2: the title is actually spoilers to the final conclusion of
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  Speaker 2: the article, which I'll leave as just a exercise for
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  Speaker 2: the viewer because I don't want to spoil it. But
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  Speaker 2: I think you might know where we're all leading up
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  Speaker 2: to in this article. But you know, let's allow a
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  Speaker 2: little bit of anticipation.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, don't bury the lead to. Yes, let's get into
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  Speaker 1: the thing. So I just want to tell you guys
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  Speaker 1: before we start. YouTube has done something and it is
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  Speaker 1: affecting our vertical stream. So yesterday, I'm just giving a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of back source. You understand where this comes from,
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  Speaker 1: because I didn't do this, and that's the most important
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  Speaker 1: thing you guys understand is that I didn't do this.
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  Speaker 1: Yesterday when I was hosting the news show. YouTube allowed
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  Speaker 1: me to set up the vertical and horizontal streams the
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  Speaker 1: way I always do, but they now have a new
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  Speaker 1: mode in their studio where you can send out a
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  Speaker 1: vertical and a horizontal simultaneously under one backroom instance in
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  Speaker 1: the studio, and so yesterday I didn't do that. I
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  Speaker 1: put them on separate streams. But the problem with the
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  Speaker 1: horizontal was that it didn't actually show up in a
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  Speaker 1: It didn't show up as a as a vertical. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 1: The problem with the vertical was it didn't come out
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  Speaker 1: as a vertical, so it wasn't reaching people on their
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  Speaker 1: mobile devices. It instead came out as a horizontal where
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  Speaker 1: most of it was blacked out except for the vertical
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  Speaker 1: section of the video. Kind of like if you put
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  Speaker 1: out like a let's say you put out a short
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  Speaker 1: and it's too long for shorts, so what shorts. It
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  Speaker 1: doesn't make it into a short, it just makes it
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  Speaker 1: into a standard video. And so that's what happened yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: and I didn't I saw that, but I was like, well,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know what to do about it. So today
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  Speaker 1: I thought I would try to do the thing that
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  Speaker 1: YouTube was suggesting I do, which is to essentially create
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  Speaker 1: a simulcast of a horizontal and a vertical. And I
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  Speaker 1: even tried to plug in the stream key from the vertical,
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  Speaker 1: which I was able to grab on its own and
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  Speaker 1: drop it into my vertical plug in over here on
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  Speaker 1: obs in the hopes that it would come out as
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  Speaker 1: a vertical. But it's not. So we don't have We
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  Speaker 1: don't really have a vertical stream. We have a vertical
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  Speaker 1: that is just like the center of the horizontal. Does
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  Speaker 1: that make sense? Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, So so basically YouTube has just screwed the shorts streaming.
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  Speaker 1: For now unless I figure out a workaround. Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: sure that there are people working on it, because this
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  Speaker 1: literally happened last night, like right before the news show.
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  Speaker 1: They changed it, of course.
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  Speaker 2: So we don't where this won't actually end up being
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  Speaker 2: a short or is.
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  Speaker 1: There it's going out, it's going out on the shorts,
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  Speaker 1: but it's not it's not the layout that we have. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I see it, let me see if let me see
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  Speaker 1: how it looks. I don't know how it's showing up here,
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  Speaker 1: but I'm just letting you know that, Okay, But I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't see an actual instance.
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  Speaker 1: Or yeah, there isn't an instance but for some okay, so,
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  Speaker 1: but it must be that it's streaming to mobile devices,
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  Speaker 1: but it's streaming this stream instead. And it did say,
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  Speaker 1: do you want to do vertical and horizontal? So I said, okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's see what it looks like. And this is what
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  Speaker 1: it looks like. So and it's weird because it was
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  Speaker 1: it's just this channel at least like of the two
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  Speaker 1: that I tried. I tried my channel earlier today and
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  Speaker 1: I was able to do the vertical horizontal as far
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  Speaker 1: as I can tell, and there were no issues. But
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  Speaker 1: then again I didn't check, so maybe I should do
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  Speaker 1: that anyway. I'm just letting you know. The vertical is
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  Speaker 1: out there, but it's not. It doesn't look like what we.
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  Speaker 2: Have set up here, so okay, so good grief. And
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  Speaker 2: the vertical is where we make our shorts too, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: goddamn YouTube. And of course it's just this channel that's
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  Speaker 2: supposedly having this problem.
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  Speaker 1: Well I mean I didn't it might not just be
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  Speaker 1: this Channe. I'm just letting you know that, uh, this
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  Speaker 1: is like what we're dealing with right now.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, all right, Well, well I guess we'll
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  Speaker 2: figure out I'll see if.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'll have to find a fix, see
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  Speaker 1: if anyone, because I know a lot of streamers that
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  Speaker 1: have been using this tool, this this uh set up
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  Speaker 1: for a while, and they must also.
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  Speaker 2: Be well, it was just fine, it was working just fine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know.
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  Speaker 2: I'm I wonder if this is an effort for YouTube
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  Speaker 2: to be able to control who is able to stream
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  Speaker 2: on the shorts, because of course, we had a whole
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  Speaker 2: freakin' workflow going. We streamed a shorts. My husband Jonathan
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  Speaker 2: would cut the shorts up and publish them, and now
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  Speaker 2: that's in jeopardy because of YouTube's arbitrary changes.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well let me, I'll show you. I'll show you something, okay,
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  Speaker 1: just so you can see what what what it is.
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  Speaker 1: So this is the stream I did today, mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: And the this is the vertical stream. So if you
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  Speaker 1: if you don't, if you can't tell right off the bat,
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  Speaker 1: it's not laid out in the standard shorts layout. It's
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  Speaker 1: actually just a regular horizontal stream. Do you see that?
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  Speaker 1: And that's what happened today when I did a stream,
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  Speaker 1: So that means that we could do it this way
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  Speaker 1: in the future. And then what Jonathan's gonna have to
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  Speaker 1: do is basically just like you know, use this layout
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  Speaker 1: and just crop out like the black parts and make
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  Speaker 1: the shorts that way. So but that's what it's gonna.
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  Speaker 2: Look like, so the hell YouTube? Yeah anyway, Jesus Christ, Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: it might be worth it to just maybe change this
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  Speaker 2: horizontal layout a bit like maybe look at like the
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  Speaker 2: way the Lotus eaters do it, and then just use that.
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  Speaker 2: If the shorts have gone to crap on YouTube, why
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  Speaker 2: would they change something that was working? God damn it.
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  Speaker 2: This was really irritating because it changes everything downstream of
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  Speaker 2: this stream and we were doing pretty good with the shorts.
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  Speaker 2: All right, well let's let's let's get to the meat
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  Speaker 2: of the matter.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, we I don't think we can fix this
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  Speaker 1: right now. I'm just letting you all know that the
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  Speaker 1: YouTube change something, so we'll figure it out later. But
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  Speaker 1: in the meantime, so we're gonna be looking at the
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  Speaker 1: cinema's formula for awards and festivals the humiliation and vlification
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  Speaker 1: of men.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, I'm just I'm just annoyed that I'll just relax
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  Speaker 2: out the annoyance.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I mean, yeah, we can't. It's you Brian,
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  Speaker 1: I no, I know, I'm not saying that. I'm just
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  Speaker 1: saying there's nothing we can do about it right now.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I know, Okay, let's let's do it, all right,
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  Speaker 3: maybe Rumbo will start doing vertical streams or doing the
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  Speaker 3: same kind of business, all right, Should I just read
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  Speaker 3: this then?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's read it. I mean, what I was
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  Speaker 2: going to suggest is we only read a little bit
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  Speaker 2: and then have a reply, because that makes better shorts,
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  Speaker 2: having whole paragraphs, and then then the short just makes
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  Speaker 2: shorts of the the article without including us. So we're
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  Speaker 2: gonna have to stop more often. And if we do
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  Speaker 2: that format, of course, I don't know if we're gonna
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  Speaker 2: even be able to do shorts from this because of
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  Speaker 2: the YouTube changes. But so, yeah, let's just read a
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  Speaker 2: sentence and then we'll discuss it, okay, or sentence or two.
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  Speaker 1: So the war, so that this is a I guess
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  Speaker 1: this is like an analysis of this trend that's been
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  Speaker 1: going on forever. And I guess that, you know, maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's an admission. I don't really know. So the war
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  Speaker 1: on men, how cinema became a weapon in the cultural
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  Speaker 1: backlash against men and masculinity. Guest post by concern filmmaker
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  Speaker 1: and fi W staff. That's Film Industry Watch staff. Do
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  Speaker 1: you have anything to say about that? No, let's keep going,
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  Speaker 1: all right, I will say I will say something though,
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  Speaker 1: real quick about this. It's interesting that it's framed as
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  Speaker 1: backlash against men. Backlash for what?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for what?
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  Speaker 1: That suggests a counter attack or like a defensive maneuver, right,
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  Speaker 1: backlash for what? That's all I would.
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  Speaker 2: Ask, Yeah, because they have this premise that men shot first. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: and yet again, within the entire premise that men shot first,
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  Speaker 2: every time we point out that men enforced sacrifice on
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  Speaker 2: other men that they didn't do to women, they say, oh,
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  Speaker 2: well men did that. Yes, that's the point. You are
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  Speaker 2: asserting that men constructed a society where women bear the
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  Speaker 2: brunt of the sacrifices for men's benefit. So every instance
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  Speaker 2: where we point out that no, actually it's men enforcing
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  Speaker 2: sacrifice on other men is a counter exis to your assertion,
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  Speaker 2: and you can't dismiss it by saying, well, it's just
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  Speaker 2: patriarchy backfire where men are doing it to each other. Right,
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  Speaker 2: there was no first volley by men nowhere in history,
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  Speaker 2: if you actually look at it outside the feminist framework
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  Speaker 2: which enforces its own viewpoint on the evidence and the
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  Speaker 2: assumption that and then looks at the enforcement of its
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  Speaker 2: own viewpoint on the evidence and says, yes, that proves
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  Speaker 2: our viewpoint. No it doesn't. That's completely sylopsistic. It's eating
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  Speaker 2: your own ass in terms of the science. But if
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  Speaker 2: you look at actually look at history, men enforced sacrifice
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  Speaker 2: on other men in order to maintain society. They enforced
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  Speaker 2: sacrifice in war in order to protect society and women's interests.
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  Speaker 2: This is something they don't mention. They enforced sacrifice on
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  Speaker 2: men to police other men, to make sure they abided
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  Speaker 2: by the rules of society right throughout history, and that
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  Speaker 2: sacrifice sometimes came with a greater say in government, and
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  Speaker 2: the government was about sacrificing. So men were doing the sacrificing,
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  Speaker 2: and oh my god, they had greater say in the sacrifice. Jeez,
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  Speaker 2: what a what a an onerous and position on women.
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  Speaker 2: So they say that that men shot first. This is
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  Speaker 2: a backlash. Men shot first. Men never shot first, all right.
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  Speaker 2: They just tried to construct a society of safety, security
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  Speaker 2: and provision for everyone. Yep, okay, all right.
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  Speaker 1: M In one jarring scene of promising young women twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: A young man gently lays an apparently drunk woman on
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  Speaker 1: a bed and begins unbuttoning her dress. You're okay, You're safe,
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  Speaker 1: he whispers, a grotesque reassurance, even as he pulls down
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  Speaker 1: her underwear without consent. Suddenly, she sits bolt upright, stone cold, sober.
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  Speaker 1: I said, what are you doing, she demands, fixing him
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  Speaker 1: with an icy stare. The predator freezes, terrified at being caught. Okay, shock,
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: Go ahead, yeah, okay again, don't go too far. I
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  Speaker 2: know if I put my hand up like this. Let's
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  Speaker 2: just go into the actual text of the thing again.
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  Speaker 2: This generation of women is on track, well, actually has
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  Speaker 2: is already exceeded the violent sexual predatoriness of any generation
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  Speaker 2: and the current generation of men, at least according to
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  Speaker 2: the millennial shift, which has now been replicated at least
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  Speaker 2: two times, possibly more by the research who's been looking
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  Speaker 2: into You don't know what the millennial shift is. It
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  Speaker 2: is that millennial women and probably zoomer women, so younger
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  Speaker 2: women are engaging in sexual violence at rates never seen before.
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  Speaker 2: And what do I mean by sexual violence? I mean
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  Speaker 2: use of drugs, I mean use of weapons, knives, guns,
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  Speaker 2: use of credible threats like if you don't submit to me,
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  Speaker 2: I am going to accuse you of rape. Right, They're
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  Speaker 2: doing this at incredible rates. So this generation of female
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  Speaker 2: cinema goers and female cinematographers and scriptwriters and directors who
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  Speaker 2: creating this shlock. They are the rapist group of people
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  Speaker 2: on the motherfucking planet in history. And the funny thing
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  Speaker 2: is that men are willing to acknowledge their role in
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  Speaker 2: sexual violence, but women aren't, so they create this exploitation
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  Speaker 2: of cinema that completely distorts the reality of it, and
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  Speaker 2: that just put pins it on men. It's just men, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's just men who do this. Meanwhile, it's actually becoming
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  Speaker 2: majority women. Be behavior unbelievable, isn't it. I wonder if
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  Speaker 2: as long.
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  Speaker 1: As we've been measuring it it may have been an issue.
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  Speaker 2: For it may have been, but it may also be
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  Speaker 2: the fact that this generation of women has the worst
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  Speaker 2: attitudes towards male victims since they kept track, and also
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  Speaker 2: has the worst expectation of sexual responsibility like and and
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  Speaker 2: also has a narrative that they don't have to take
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  Speaker 2: sexual responsibility because the only sexual predators are men. So
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  Speaker 2: it's entirely possible that feminist and yes, it's feminists who
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  Speaker 2: constructed this, maybe with the you know, the handmaiden of
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  Speaker 2: patriarchy as feminism's handmaiden, they've constructed this what with married
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  Speaker 2: costs is the originator of the one in four women
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  Speaker 2: will be uh raped or attempted rape and saying that
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  Speaker 2: made to penetrate is taken out of the definition of
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  Speaker 2: forced sex. That is a I'm enforcing a man to
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  Speaker 2: have sex is no longer considered rape in the center
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  Speaker 2: of disease control statistics. Right, So that really mutters muddies
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  Speaker 2: the water with all of this. Okay, and I don't
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  Speaker 2: even have feminists arguing that that shouldn't be considered rape,
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  Speaker 2: this shouldn't be rape, can only be a male crime? Well,
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  Speaker 2: what a fatuous Yeah, if I definitionally recast rape is
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  Speaker 2: only a female crime, then I'm gonna find that only
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  Speaker 2: women commit it. It's such a fatuous game of cards,
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  Speaker 2: game of like shells definitional shells. It's and but ultimately
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  Speaker 2: feminism has constructed this attitude towards rape. That means that
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  Speaker 2: feminism has constructed a rape culture targeting male victims. And
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  Speaker 2: what a surprise. As a result of that, that what
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  Speaker 2: feminists constructed, there's an increasing rape, rape of male victims
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  Speaker 2: by women. You're giving them a plausible excuse, they're you're
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  Speaker 2: telling them data. You don't have to take responsibility for
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  Speaker 2: your predatory behavior because it's categorically different. It's not rape,
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  Speaker 2: it's it's a a surprise sex know we wanted even
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  Speaker 2: if it was at knife point, and that this isn't.
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  Speaker 2: And so this whole cinematic universe, this extended cinematic universe
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  Speaker 2: of rape, is a complete fiction that these women have constructed. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 2: they're probably complicit and doing a lot of sexually predatory
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  Speaker 2: behavior themselves. Yeah, okay, but but it's a backlash everyone.
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  Speaker 2: Men have a having a backlash. Okay, alright, women are
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  Speaker 2: having a backlash. Men shot first.
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  Speaker 1: This moment of tables turning shock encapsulates a striking new
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  Speaker 1: archetype in today's critically acclaimed cinema, Men as predatory or
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  Speaker 1: pathetic figures and women as their righteous reckoners or survivors.
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  Speaker 1: Don't think that's new. I think that that's been going
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  Speaker 1: on a long time. I remember. I mean, granted, it's
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  Speaker 1: been a lot more like in your face these days,
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  Speaker 1: but there was a grindhouse film in the nineteen seventies
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  Speaker 1: called I Spit on Your Grave, which was a bunch
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  Speaker 1: of like feminist revenge porn on men. I've never seen
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  Speaker 1: the movie, but I could tell you that that and
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  Speaker 1: it was a bit exploitive too, which is weird. So
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  Speaker 1: it was kind of like part like borderline pornography, part
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  Speaker 1: violent feminist revenge fantasy. And that's from the nineteen seventies,
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  Speaker 1: so this is not like a new thing. It's just
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  Speaker 1: kind of very common.
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  Speaker 2: What It's just that this is now everywhere, Yes, but
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  Speaker 2: that used to be grindhouse and you'd watch it in
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  Speaker 2: like the sticky floor theater on the corner. Yeah, yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: this is now.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But also like like no, I think that I
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  Speaker 1: don't know, Like, if you look at the way that
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  Speaker 1: men have been portrayed in film historically, a typically you get,
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  Speaker 1: you know, maybe a heroic male figure in in a
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  Speaker 1: you know, in a story, but there will be a
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  Speaker 1: lot of really awful male figures too, and they're often
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  Speaker 1: you know, like be portrayed as rapists that just are
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  Speaker 1: like animalistic and violent, like they can't control themselves, and
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  Speaker 1: the heroic male figure deals with them. But it's still
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  Speaker 1: framed in this kind of like, you know, there are
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  Speaker 1: only a few good men, and the and the and
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  Speaker 1: these are the examples of that, right muh, I mean,
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe I'm over analyzing that, but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's definitely gotten a lot worse. In fact, it's basically
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  Speaker 1: impossible to make good male characters these days.
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  Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
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  Speaker 1: Anyway, from indie festival ar links to Hollywood blockbusters, a
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  Speaker 1: growing roster of films is casting masculinity in a harsh light,
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  Speaker 1: depicting men as abusive, weak, absent, or broken, while positioning
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: women as victims turned avengers or the moral centers of
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: the story. And of course, the world is nothing if
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: not black and white. Why wrestle with the messy complexity
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: of gender dynamics when you can flatten it into the
• 20:21
  Speaker 1: simplest cliche imaginable.
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's more complex than even this person is
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: letting on. It is time for male rape victims to
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: be recognized. We did everything feminists wanted. And I've been
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: having arguments with feminists online, okay, And I point out
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: that if you're going to use the statistics on conviction,
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: then rape is very rare. Okay, If We're only using
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: the statistics on conviction for pet like who perpetrates, So
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: it may men are like ninety eight percent of the
• 21:01
  Speaker 2: convictions and women are two percent. We're going to use
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: those stats. Then rape is extremely rare, and you can't
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: say that this is a society wide phenomenon that men
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: are using to uphold patriarchy, or even that people don't
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: take it seriously. They take it very seriously.
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: Once, once get rape gets to the point of being charged,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: it is as likely as any other violent crime to
• 21:32
  Speaker 2: end up in a conviction in the US, and it's
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: far more likely in the UK. Right, So this is
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: not a crime that people do not take seriously if
• 21:41
  Speaker 2: you look at conviction rates, right, And feminists want to
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: look at conviction rates for who is doing the raping,
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: But then they want to look at the surveys for
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: how prevalent it is, how little society takes responsibility for it,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: how who rapes end up in convictions. But the unfortunate
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: problem for feminists is that when you look at the surveys,
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: you look at the most accurate surveys, women are almost
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: at parody in terms of sexual violence as men. Okay,
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: like it's slightly less for women. But then we also
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: have to consider the underreporting of male victims. So women
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: are doing a lot. They have probably half of all
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: sexually sexual violence, to take responsibile responsibility for themselves. If
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: we look at the surveys, which the feminists want to
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: point to to say that society isn't taking rape seriously.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: While if you're going to point to the surveys and
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: say that, then it's time to take male victims of
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: female sexual assaulters seriously, it's time. It's their time now, feminists,
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: and they don't want to do that, so they play
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: this ping pong game, this ping game. Oh, society isn't
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: taking rape seriously because look at the surveys. But the
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: surveys say that women are equally likely to rape. Well,
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: don't look at that, look at the conviction stats. And
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: it's infuriating, and that that is the foundation of this drek.
• 23:22
  Speaker 2: Think about it, Remember me too? Where were the men?
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: Where were the male victims? Mm?
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: Hm?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: They were ignored, they were marginalized out of stories of
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: men who brought up their victimization by women, and women
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: would shut them down. Feminists would shout them down and say,
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: you're derailing this is women's moment. When is men's moments? Huh?
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: When are women gonna step up and say, hey, actually,
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: we have a certain amount of sexually predatory behavior to
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: take responsibility for. Maybe we should stop stemming with this
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: sexploitation and all of this revenge fantasy and start taking
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: some responsibility for our own behavior. What does that happen?
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let's see so abusive week or absent
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: the new male stereotype on screen. Recent award winning and
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: festival circuit films have not been subtle about the state
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: of their men. In Eliza Hitman's drama Never Rarely Sometimes
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Always twenty twenty, the men orbiting seventeen year old Autumn
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: are all, with no exception, either useless or predatory. At
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: our supermarket job, the sleazy manager discusses Autumn's illness and leers,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: it's really just a few more hours you can do it. Besides,
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I get lonely if you left align dripping with inappropriate undertone. God,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: I couldn't want. These are the movies that win awards,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: By the way, it's this stuff, you know, that gets
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: praised and an it's interesting that we're gonna be looking
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: a little bit at this Briarny Claire video. It's exactly
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the kind of shit that people like priority Claire will
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: reference as data. Did you see this move? Allow me
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: to present you exhibit a this movie as proof of men. Right?
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  Speaker 2: They construct in reality? Yeah, and they reference that constructed
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: reality is evidence of reality. It's insane.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: And again, women apparently cannot take responsibility for their half
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: of sexual violence, and for some reason this is a backlash.
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: Men took responsibility, right, they continuously take responsibility. Why was
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: that frenchwoman Gizelle Pellicot? Why is it that she is
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: not right now continuing to be sexually assaulted in the
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: three days a week, three or four days a week
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: that she loses, which I don't know how many people
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: that actually applies to. I don't know how many people
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: can just lose three or four days a week worth
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: of time and just not even question it. But anyway,
• 26:07
  Speaker 2: she would still be sexually assaulted in her three or
• 26:11
  Speaker 2: four days of blackout if it weren't for the French
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: police men who apparently were more on the ball about
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: her safety than she was found out about all of
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: this and pursued bringing those men to justice. But what
• 26:29
  Speaker 2: do we focus on. We don't focus on the fact
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: that without those men, God Gazelle Pelicott would still be
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: in the situation she is in. We focus on the
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: men who did it right. But here's the thing men
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: have demonstrated throughout history, a willingness to police the predatory
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: sexual behavior of other men. That's why we have rape
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: as a crime, at least when it comes to women
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: right now. That's why we see conviction rates of men.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: But they don't have the will to police women's negative
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: sexual behavior towards other men. There just isn't that kind
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: of this doesn't feel that important to them. That's where
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: women can step up and do it. Well, we'll see,
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: I guess, or we can continue to write this bullshit,
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: present this bullshit as the truth in cinema. We'll see
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: what women end up doing. Will they Will they start
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: to take responsibility for their half of sexual violence? Or
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: will they continue to offload all responsibility on men in
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: these cinematic lives. Need some jeopardy music or some like
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: a thinking music. I wonder what will continue to happen?
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, all right, So anyway, at our supermarket job,
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: the sleazy manager already read that right, Yeah, later as
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: the girls turn in their registers. He even kisses Autumn's
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: hand through a money slot in a furtive act of harassment.
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: Judge stock JoJo's picking up sounds outside far worse has
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: happened to Autumn behind the scenes. During our counseling session,
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: She's asked if her partner ever made her have sex
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: when she didn't want to. Autumn cannot even speak. The
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: script notes Autumn's floodgates open. She breaks down in tears.
• 28:27
  Speaker 1: The movie is I looked it up because I'm like, Okay,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: what is this? And I know it's some feminist shit.
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: So Never, Rarely Sometimes Always is a twenty twenty drama
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: film about a teenage girl navigating an unintended pregnancy alongside
• 28:44
  Speaker 1: Talia Ryder as her cousin the film. The film follows
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the pair as they travel from rural Pennsylvania to New
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: York City to seek medical help, a journey marked by
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: emotional weight, quiet, resilience, and the challenges of accessing reproductive
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: health care. So that's the kind of movie it is,
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: if that helps. So it's not just a film about
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: like men being predatory and bad, but it's also about
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: women not able to get like you know, common sense
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: reproductive health care, i e. Abortions, which is I'm pretty
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: sure what it's about, and it's just like full to
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: the brim with like all kinds of propaganda that women
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: just eat up apparently. But okay, anyway, pressed further, has
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: anyone forced you into a sexual act? She finally chokes out, yeah,
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: confirming that a boy in her life raped her. Of course,
• 29:34
  Speaker 1: that men, the men in Autumn's world, all of them
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: are either absent when needed or the source of trauma,
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: whereas the moral agency lies entirely with Autumn and her
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: female cousin, who supportively accompanies her on a secret trip
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: to get an abortion.
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: Okay, I want to say, I want to lay out
• 29:51
  Speaker 2: as statistic that I actually I mean, this is based
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: on some Grock analysis, but you know that's primarily what
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: that AI is for. Apparently, if you average everything out,
• 30:02
  Speaker 2: men spend as much time policing lesbian violence as they
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: do engaging in violence. Think about that, men spend as
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: much time, possibly more, just policing the violence that women
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: do in sexual relationships with each other as they do
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: engaging in their own violence. Is that incredible? And yet
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: men are the ones? Well, go ahead, Brian.
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: No, no, I was gonna say only if you only
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: if you are shocked to learn that. Yeah, I mean.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Men, whole like whole cloth, are the ones who police
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: bad behavior in our society. Without them, women would be
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: in relationships with other women, which means the domestic violence
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: and sexual assault would probably increase two or threefold, and
• 30:51
  Speaker 2: nobody would be there to police it. Mostly you probably
• 30:55
  Speaker 2: just have feminists excusing it. Oh, it's a good rape,
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Oh it's a good beating. You're learning how to be
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: a proper woman. It's insane because and I base that
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: on the fact that feminists are in a war against
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: punishing women. They're getting rid of jails, or they're trying
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: to get rid of jails in the UK. They've successfully
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: gotten rid of juvenile detention for girls, but they're going
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: after jails in the UK. That's what they want to do.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: They don't want to see women in prison for their
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: violent crime. They don't want to see women charged with
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: crime period. Everybody's got to be excused. So if you're
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: in the future, the future where there's only women, it's
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: going to be the woman being beaten who's going to
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: be told, oh, no, you can't feel bad about this, right,
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: you can't feel bad about the woman, your your female
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: partner who's beating you, because that's against the sisterhood. Like
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: it would be terrifying to have a female only world
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: because the amount of domestic violence and sexual assault that
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: would go completely unchecked, and in fact, the victims of
• 32:08
  Speaker 2: domestic violence and sexual assault would suddenly be the ones
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: criminalized because nobody is allowed to speak out against the sisterhood.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Nobody's allowed to recognize the violence that women engage in.
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: It would be an absolute dystopian nightmare because we would
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: lose men's sense of fair play and justice and their
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: willingness to put themselves on the line to ensure that
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: people are peaceful and respect each other. Again, men spend
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: as much, possibly more time engaging in policing lesbian violence,
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: as they do engaging in violence against women. And that
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: doesn't even cover the statistic about how much time men
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: spend policing other men's violence. It's something like thirty nine
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: times more time men spend policing, incarcerating the criminal justice system,
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: protecting women, and uh dealing with the injuries as a
• 33:14
  Speaker 2: result of other men's violence. Thirty nine times more effort
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: is putting in to prevent and ameliorate the damage of
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: criminal men by men. Then the criminal men are putting
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: in and being criminal towards women thirty nine times more
• 33:33
  Speaker 2: effort like this is. This is men are absolutely passionate
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: about punishing other men who hurt women. They are absolutely
• 33:46
  Speaker 2: This is the their driving passion, This is their driving passion.
• 33:55
  Speaker 2: If it were up to men, these these criminal men
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: who hurt women, would be freaking vaporized. But unfortunately, there's
• 34:04
  Speaker 2: this strange thing that happens because when they're criminal men
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: who hurt women, like Wade Wilson, suddenly four thousand deluge
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: of love letters from other women. There's this funny thing
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: that happens because there's somebody supporting these criminal men. And
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: it's not other men. It's not other men, not at all.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Somebody is supporting these men. Somebody is creating these men,
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: these criminal men that other men, normal men have an
• 34:36
  Speaker 2: absolute passion to destroy. But they heap popping up, They
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: keep coming from somewhere. Huh, I wonder where? Okay, I'm done.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, So anyway, film after film paints its male characters
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: in a similarly dismal hue. Emerald Fennel's acid tinged thrill
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: Promising Young Woman takes direct aim at nice guys who
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: are anything but it's parade of men are rapists or enablers,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: from the group of college bros who assaulted the heroine's friend,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: to the former friend now doctor who laughed it off,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: to the seemingly sweet new boyfriend who was ultimately revealed
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: to have been complicit. So like promising young women, I
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: remember the trailer for this movie. Actually it's this one
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: that's hit here, and it's about a woman. I'm not kidding.
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: This is the plot, okay. It stars Carrie mulligan as
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Cassie Thomas, a thirty year old medical school dropout who
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: works in a coffee shop and spends her evenings pretending
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: to be drunk in bars and clubs to confront men
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: who attempt to take advantage of her sexually. She kills them.
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: It's not confrontations. She is basically a vigilante taking out
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: all the evil rapist men by going to bars pretending
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: to be drunk. And of course, all you know, I guess,
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: all the men they take the bait because we're all
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: rapists right underneath the surface, and she kills them. It
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: is another crazy, unhinged feminist revenge power fantasy, and it
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: is described as like literally feminist. The vigil anti behavior
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: stems from the traumatic rape and subsequent suicide of her
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: best friend Nina Fisher, whose rapist Al Monroe was cleared
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: of wrongdoing. Because you know, that totally happens. The film
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: incorporates black comedy, crime drama, feminism, rape and revenge, and
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: vigilanti thriller. It won a lot of awards, but I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: don't think it made any money, so I guess that's something.
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: But anyway, this is just normal.
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: Now.
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: This is like, you know, uh, par for the course.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: This is what our content is. It's paradive. Men are
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: rapists or enablers from the group of college I read
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: that part sorry. The film's biting opening illustrates this dynamic
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: in miniature. Cassie, pretending to be obliterated by alcohol, is
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: rescued by a man who coups assurances while attempting to
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: take advantage of her incapacitation. Cassie suddenly drops her ruse,
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: eyes clear and voice firm, scaring the hell out of
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: him as she forces him to recognize his predatory behavior.
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: We need a real we need a gender reverse like
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: this is. This is how insane this is. Let's imagine
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: this was a man doing this to female, to women
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: who take advantage of men who are incapacitated, and they
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: just blows like he just kills them.
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you'd imagine.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: Can you imagine that Trump Plotlet I don't think it
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: would happen.
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I don't think it would fly that never, It would
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: never get off the cutting room floor. It wouldn't even
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: be like allowed to be written.
• 37:41
  Speaker 2: We can't even we can't even we can't even hold
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: women accountable for their sexual crime. We can't even stomach that.
• 37:49
  Speaker 2: And that's what's behind all of the oh nice, so
• 37:52
  Speaker 2: I wish that was my teacher. It's because those men
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: can't stomach the idea of holding women accountable for sexual crime.
• 37:58
  Speaker 2: It just goes again against their nature. But the same
• 38:03
  Speaker 2: men are absolutely passionate about absolutely just white hot passionate
• 38:10
  Speaker 2: about policing the sexual behavior of other men. Like I said,
• 38:17
  Speaker 2: thirty nine times more effort put into policing the criminal
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: behavior of other men towards women than engaging in it
• 38:25
  Speaker 2: by men as a group. And yet what do feminists say,
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: you don't carry enough? They still exist you don't care enough.
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: Where are they coming from? Why do they still exist?
• 38:37
  Speaker 2: These are the questions. Why do they still exist despite
• 38:40
  Speaker 2: the average man being absolutely passionate or the average man
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: being far more like if you're going to just amortize this.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Over all men, they're far more passionate about ending crime
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: against women than engaging in it. So why does this
• 38:57
  Speaker 2: still continue? Maybe it's it's not men's fault that it continues.
• 39:03
  Speaker 2: Maybe they're doing what they can to stop it, but
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: there's certain things happening that are either outside of their
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: control or they aren't willing to call to account. Because
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: those men who say, oh, it's nays I wish that,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: I wish that where we do as women When I
• 39:19
  Speaker 2: was a kid, right, those guys, that scenario a teenage
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: boy and an adult woman taking advantage of him is,
• 39:31
  Speaker 2: in terms of the longitudinal studies, the most likely to
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: cause that young man to become a sexual predator of others. Now,
• 39:39
  Speaker 2: it's a minority of boys who do that who end
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: up becoming sexual predators even when they are raped themselves,
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: minority like ten percent. I mean, that's what it takes, right,
• 39:50
  Speaker 2: It takes being sexually abused and having impulse control problems
• 39:54
  Speaker 2: in your brain to make a male predator. But that
• 39:57
  Speaker 2: is the scenario that creates them. Those guys who are
• 40:01
  Speaker 2: like where we're where were those women when I was?
• 40:05
  Speaker 2: You know, those guys, they're signing off on that boy
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: going on to abuse others, which is what they're concerned about. Well,
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: if you're that concerned about it, end it at its source,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: end it where it begins. But of course, again, men
• 40:23
  Speaker 2: struggle with acknowledging women's sexual violence because that's not what
• 40:27
  Speaker 2: they're about about policing other men. But women could step
• 40:30
  Speaker 2: into this, could step into this and start policing women.
• 40:34
  Speaker 2: The only problem is attitudes are getting worse among women.
• 40:38
  Speaker 2: Younger women have shittier attitudes towards male victims of female
• 40:41
  Speaker 2: sexual assaulters than older women. Can you believe that in
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: the past we were better about recognizing male victims of
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: sexual assault than we are today. It's getting worse. And
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: these are the women who are constructing these cinematic mass
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: pieces of absolute lies and farting out can't cover for
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: their own behavior. Oh okay, all right.
• 41:17
  Speaker 1: In promising young women men's men's misdeeds are the central evil,
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: and the avenging angel is a woman driven to drastic
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: ends to expose them. Even basically decent men are portrayed
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: as cowardly or culpable. The message is that every man
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: is guilty, if not of rape, then of complicity or
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: wilful ignorance, and it's the women who bear the pain
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: and seek justice, writes one reviewer in summary of the
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: film's provocations. So this is all on purpose. I mean
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: like they're literally making shit up and then making it
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: like try to convince but people that this is the truth.
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: In this new cinematic landscape, even when men aren't outright villains,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: they are depicted as feckless, foolish, or fragile. Take last
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: year's Cann's Palm Dior winner just In Trie's Anatomy of
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: a Fall. The drama centers on a wife accused of
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: killing her husband, Samuel, under murky circumstances. As the trial unspools,
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: a damning portrait of the late husband emerges. Samuel was
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: a frustrated writer suffering personal envy and depression, prone to
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: paranoid behavior. He had been secretly recording his wife, Sandra's
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: every word for months and grew jealous of her literary success.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: In a climactic court scene, the prosecution plays an audio
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: recording of the couple's final argument, in which Samuel's composure
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: collapses and an explosion of violence is heard. It suggested
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: that he physically attack Sondra. She was left with bruises,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: leading to the fall that killed him. The subtext is clear.
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: Samuel is depicted as emotionally broken and volatile, a man
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: who literally couldn't handle being eclipsed by his wife. Soundra,
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: by contrast, is portrayed as complex but ultimately more sympathetic,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: an intellectual and mother who maintains poise under pressure, effectively
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: the moral center as the court and audience weigh her fate.
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: H God is bad writing anatomy of a fault.
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: Isn't the audience, It's triggering all the pressure points for
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: its audience. Yes, Like literally, I guess women in the
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: West just want to divorce men entirely. They just want
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: them out of their life. Because you're right, I remember
• 43:37
  Speaker 2: you said. Initially, there was an observation that there was
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: usually a man. Even in the lifetime movies, there is
• 43:42
  Speaker 2: usually a man who helped save the woman and ended
• 43:46
  Speaker 2: up being a romantic partner.
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: There was at least a good man.
• 43:50
  Speaker 2: There was at least one good man. Well, now they're
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: getting rid of that. Now they're getting rid of that.
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: There are no good men, even though men as a
• 44:00
  Speaker 2: collective put thirty nine times more effort into policing the
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: criminal behavior of other men than they do into engaging
• 44:08
  Speaker 2: in it. If you want to look at men as
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: a collective, right, far far more passion into punishing men
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: who hurt women. Men put far far more time and
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: passion into punishing men who hurt women than hurting them.
• 44:25
  Speaker 2: If you want to look at men as a collective,
• 44:26
  Speaker 2: we know that's ridiculous, but if we're going to do that,
• 44:29
  Speaker 2: let's be honest about the collective nature of men. Right
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: and again, if this was, if these cinematic masterpieces were
• 44:39
  Speaker 2: honest with reality, without men, women would be subject to
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: substantially more violence from other women because men police their
• 44:48
  Speaker 2: violence too, maybe not as effectively, which is a big problem.
• 44:53
  Speaker 2: Because men struggle withholding women accountable. That's one of the
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: things that's the big criticism I'd have with men. They
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: struggle with holding women accountable, but they still do it,
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: and they do it more than women. Because that's what's
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: hilarious by women saying well, patriarch. Well, if patriarchy is
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: enforcing sacrifice, that's other men choosing to do it, right,
• 45:15
  Speaker 2: because you wouldn't. You wouldn't enforce this on other women,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: and you would not enforce you wouldn't. Well, you probably
• 45:22
  Speaker 2: would enforce it on men, obviously from this cinema cinematic stuff,
• 45:26
  Speaker 2: but you wouldn't. You wouldn't enforce it on other women.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: For whatever reason, women do not police other women in
• 45:34
  Speaker 2: this way. They police them if they feel like they're
• 45:37
  Speaker 2: a threat to women's overall access to resources. Sure, but
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: they do not police their bad behavior towards men, at
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: least not in this lifetime.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, let's keep going.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Anatomy of a fall isn't clever.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: It's actually sorry, sorry, Brian. They also don't police their
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: bad behavior to it's other women. They have to rely
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: on men to do that.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Okay, continue, Anatomy of a fall isn't clever, it's entry
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: level bait and switch. The script black stacks, obvious, she
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: did it, breadcrumbs, loaded anecdotes, conveniently incriminating fragments, a neatly
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: arranged trail of marital rot, and then smirks, gotcha, misogyny,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: as if the audience's suspicion were proof of their bias
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: rather than the direct result of the film's own engineering.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: That's not depth. It's a cheap card trick where the
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: magician palms the queen and then lectures you for noticing
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: the deck so apparently because I would never watch it.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: They basically set you up to think that the woman
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: did it this whole time, and then they turn the
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: tables and say, ha, it's misogyny, and it's your fault
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: for thinking it was the thing that they were leading
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: you to believe it was okay, And you're also.
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: Part of the problem, right, yeah, you're part of the problems.
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: So that's incredibly manipulative.
• 46:58
  Speaker 2: Go ahead, you're part of the problem because you believe
• 47:00
  Speaker 2: the evidence that they presented. They controlled everything, so they
• 47:04
  Speaker 2: presented evidence of her guilt. But the fact is you
• 47:07
  Speaker 2: didn't believe her, So they are going to tell you
• 47:10
  Speaker 2: that you were wrong for following the evidence. You should
• 47:14
  Speaker 2: only ever believe women. This is such heavy handed propaganda,
• 47:21
  Speaker 2: and it is this is like, this is destroying women.
• 47:24
  Speaker 2: The more they invest in this narrative, the more absolutely
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: insane they become. Have you noticed this that when you
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: on more a human being from expectations of treating the
• 47:35
  Speaker 2: under other gender like they're human, they cease to be
• 47:40
  Speaker 2: human themselves. You become a monster. Because women are not
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: held accountable for their behavior towards anybody but themselves, they
• 47:47
  Speaker 2: have descended into becoming monsters. That's what the millennial shift
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: is showing. I believe all evidence that that is the
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: no only believe women. That is war cry of female abusers. Okay, okay, yep,
• 48:08
  Speaker 2: all right.
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I think that they're just gonna go into more of
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: the of this example. I think I'll jump ahead a
• 48:16
  Speaker 1: little bit, all right. Even ostensibly light hearted films reinforce
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: the theme. Greta Gerwig's blockbuster Barbie You may have heard
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: of this one garnered attention for its candy colored feminist subtext.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: In the film's satirical reversal. Barbie Land is a matriarchy
• 48:34
  Speaker 1: where Barbie's run everything and Ken's our decorative sidekicks. But
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: when Ken, played by Ryan Gosling, discovers the concept of patriarchy,
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: he promptly leads an over the top male takeover that
• 48:43
  Speaker 1: plunges Barbieland into a goofy dystopia of horse inspired macho posturing.
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: The depiction of Ken and his brethren is pointly comical, vain,
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: simple minded, and eagerly easily manipulated by their own fragile ego.
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: But the fragile egos was their desire to action, protect
• 49:01
  Speaker 2: and provide for women. That's what's freaking hilarious about it.
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: These men, the Kens, were manipulated by wanting to help
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: the Barbies, you know, wanting to protect the Barbies, like
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: they were manipulated by the things that feminism doesn't say
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: exist or basically frames as benevolent sexism.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: Yeso to defeat the Kens, the Barbies execute a clever plan,
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: will distract them by pretending to be helpless and confused.
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: Kens can't resist the damsel in distress one Barbie.
• 49:39
  Speaker 2: Exactly exactly because because they care. Honestly, if men were
• 49:47
  Speaker 2: women's enemies, do you display of a weakness, ladies, and
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: men will use that to destroy you, because that's what
• 49:59
  Speaker 2: enemies do to their enemies weaknesses. They don't use it
• 50:01
  Speaker 2: as a clarion call, as a call to do whatever
• 50:05
  Speaker 2: they can to protect women from their own weaknesses to
• 50:08
  Speaker 2: protect and they don't do That's not how enemies work.
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: Enemies when you show your weakness to an enemy, that
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: enemy endeavors to exploit it to their own ends. So
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: you're essentially saying right there that men are not women's enemies,
• 50:22
  Speaker 2: and you are using men's desire to protect and provide
• 50:27
  Speaker 2: for you against them. How honest Barbie was, How absolutely
• 50:32
  Speaker 2: honest it was to that dynamic that these women manipulate
• 50:36
  Speaker 2: men by using their desire to protect and provide for
• 50:40
  Speaker 2: women's weaknesses. Right to get to carry women over the
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: rushing stream. Oh geez, dudes, geez, you're so horrible to women,
• 50:51
  Speaker 2: So that's how we can manipulate you by wanting to
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: protect and provide for us. What a bunch of bullshit.
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: There's a bunch of snarky, self involved, selfish, syllopsistic bullshit.
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, the Barbie's fain cluelessness to flatter the
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: men who immediately fall for it. In one scene, a
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: brainwash can leans over a Barbie to man explaining the
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: difference between stock market CDs and music CDs. Oh, sweetheart,
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: you are just so cute when you're confused. CD stands
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: for a certificate of deposit. He lectures while she bats
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: her eyelashes and feigned awe. The ruse works perfectly. The
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: dupe cans relinquish their grip on power without the women
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: ever needing to use force. Barbie's gleeful message is that
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: when men do have power, they don't know what to
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: do with it. Besides impose of sur chauvinism, and savvy
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: women can easily outsmart them. The film pointedly makes its
• 51:48
  Speaker 1: heroine the moral and emotional anchor, while the men learn
• 51:52
  Speaker 1: a lesson in humility. And then there is Yargos, Lenthimos, lanthemos,
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: this surreal feminist fable Poor Things twenty twenty three, Oh
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: my God, this is I Can't Wait, which flips the
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: Victorian Frankenstein trope to shot to sly effect. The protagonist,
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: Bella Emma Stone, is a resurrected woman finding her independence
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: in a world of leering or controlling men. Oh God.
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: Her creator, doctor Baxter, is a grotesque but kind man
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: who nonetheless literally keeps Bella under lock and key for
• 52:28
  Speaker 1: her own good. When a slick male lawyer, Duncan Wedderburn
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: encounters Bella, he is so intrigued by this uninhibited woman
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: that he spirits her away on a tour of debauchery
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: across Europe. Duncan styles himself a liberator. Upon meeting her,
• 52:43
  Speaker 1: he dramatically declares, you are a prisoner, and I am
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: to free you, or I aim to free you. There
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: is something in you, some hungry being, hungry for experience, freedom, touch.
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: But this version of freedom is to indulge the hedonistic
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: sex and thrilling on his terms. In one after Bella
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: enthusiastically beds him, Duncan can't resist boasting about his sexual
• 53:04
  Speaker 1: prowess at the risk of being immodest. You have just
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: been thrice fucked by the very best, he brags to
• 53:10
  Speaker 1: her with smug self satisfaction. Eventually, Duncan's self centered antics,
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: including gambling away Bella's money, prove him to be a
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: shallow Probably get that.
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: Money from, uh what hell? Where did that get the
• 53:22
  Speaker 2: money from? Probably from the creator or benefactor.
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: Poor Things cast its men as either paternalistic protectors or
• 53:30
  Speaker 1: libertine exploiters and skewers both. Bella ultimately asserts her autonomy,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: rejecting the cages both kinds of men offer. The film's
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: feminist lens makes it sympathy clear the men are foolish
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: and corrupt, the woman is the one discovering authentic moral agency. God,
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: it's just one example after another. Can we get to like,
• 53:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know, like, do you want me to go
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: through more of these examples or do you want me
• 53:53
  Speaker 1: to like find something else? Because I get it, like
• 53:55
  Speaker 1: this has becusion.
• 53:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. This is pervasive.
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just a bunch of these Honora triangle of sadness.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: Sadness dismantles masculinity from start to finish.
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: But let's go back to that one. What mess masculinity
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: does it dismantle?
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: Paarl, a fragile male model, bickers over dinner bills and
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: is later reduced to Abigail's boy toy in exchange for food.
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: On the luxury yacht. Rich men from the drunken Marxist
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: captain to the fertilizer car tycoon are grotesques, vomiting through
• 54:28
  Speaker 1: storms or ranting drunken politics over the Okay, all right.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: So wait, she's sexually exploiting him, and that's the statement
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: on masculinity.
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, reduced to Abigail's boy toy. Yeah, looks like it.
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, that's that's exactly the attitude that's causing this
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: generation of women to be the rapist generation in human history.
• 54:50
  Speaker 2: That is not that is not you getting yours, lady,
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: that's you exploiting another human being. Well, I mean, I
• 54:59
  Speaker 2: guess it's pross institution for food. But you know, if
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: it was a man doing it to a woman, what
• 55:04
  Speaker 2: would you say. This is why this narrative is so pernicious,
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: this idea that this is a backlash that women are
• 55:10
  Speaker 2: engaging against men because men shot first. I'm sorry, but
• 55:15
  Speaker 2: and again I've gotten into this argument with a woman. Oh,
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: while men protect women from sexual violence, Well, that's because
• 55:22
  Speaker 2: patriarchy did it better responsible. Yes, men throughout history have
• 55:28
  Speaker 2: protected women from sexual violence. Okay, and it wasn't because
• 55:33
  Speaker 2: they thought of them as their property. You don't lynch
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: someone for touching your car, right, You don't have that
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: kind of passion for somebody who does something like that. So, yes,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: men have gone out of their way to police other
• 55:51
  Speaker 2: men's sexual behavior towards women. They've also gone out of
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: their way to police women's bad behavior. They're violent and
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: sexual assault of other women. Because men have an inherent
• 56:04
  Speaker 2: sense of fairness, they just struggle with applying that to
• 56:08
  Speaker 2: women when it comes to other men. Okay, Anyways, all right.
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: The final act on Desert Island flips over completely. Abigail
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: wants the ship's toilet cleaner, declares herself captain, doling out food,
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: while billionaires and influencers, especially the men, meekly comply. This
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: all prostitutes himself for pretzels, embodying male emasculation as comedy.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: The film won the Palm, Dior and Oscar nominations precisely
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: because it revels in humiliating men and celebrating female dominance,
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: a perfect fit for post hashtag me too festival tastes.
• 56:46
  Speaker 2: And this is why this generation. Go back up to
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: that paragraph, this is why this generation of women is
• 56:52
  Speaker 2: the most rapeye generation in human history, because they are
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: empowered by this narrative that it's getting back at men.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: There is actually a correlation between women's hatred towards men
• 57:05
  Speaker 2: and their sexually violent behavior towards men. There isn't as
• 57:08
  Speaker 2: much when it comes to men for whatever reason. All right, so,
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: but here's the question, who's upholding her rain?
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: What do you mean?
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: Well, who's the who's what's How does she establish her
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: power as captain? Obviously this is a result of some
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: kind of mutiny, right, Well, who are the mutineers who
• 57:31
  Speaker 2: are supporting her. Otherwise, well, how would the women be
• 57:37
  Speaker 2: physically capable of constructing this mutiny against the men? Let
• 57:45
  Speaker 2: me just let me just see, this is a triangle
• 57:48
  Speaker 2: of sadness. How does the female and triangle of sadness
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: create or manage against the male captain? Let's see what
• 58:03
  Speaker 2: it says. Oh well, I don't. Agail staff member doesn't
• 58:11
  Speaker 2: stage a traditional mutiny against the male captain the yacht,
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: but becomes a defect a leader among the survivors after
• 58:16
  Speaker 2: the shipwreck. Here's how it unfolds contacts the power shift.
• 58:20
  Speaker 2: After the yacht sinks to a pirate attack, a small
• 58:23
  Speaker 2: group of survivors and including Abigail, ends up on a
• 58:25
  Speaker 2: deserted island. The captain, Thomas survives, but it is in
• 58:28
  Speaker 2: a weakened state both physically and mentally due to his
• 58:31
  Speaker 2: drunkenness and the chaos of the situation. The established hierarchy
• 58:34
  Speaker 2: from the yacht collapses as wealth and status become irrelevant.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: So more relevant is survival skills. And we're arguing that
• 58:43
  Speaker 2: a woman is going to take charge in that situation.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: You realize that this is absolute bullshit. Okay, Abigail's rise.
• 58:49
  Speaker 2: Abigail Don't Care takes charge because she possesses practical survival skills,
• 58:54
  Speaker 2: unlike the other survivors, who are mostly wealthy passengers or
• 58:57
  Speaker 2: high ranking crew with no real world competent. She knows
• 59:00
  Speaker 2: how to fish, start a fire, and secure food, making
• 59:03
  Speaker 2: her indispensable. All right, So apparently the woman has the
• 59:11
  Speaker 2: survival skills, which is why she ends up in charge.
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: This is a constructed reality. We've already seen this play
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: out in reality. I think it was Bear Gillis's Island,
• 59:23
  Speaker 2: the male island versus the female island. The female island
• 59:26
  Speaker 2: was completely incapable. The women were completely incapable of taking
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: care of themselves, whereas the men established a reasonably self
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: sufficient little tribe almost immediately. I mean, they had their problems,
• 59:42
  Speaker 2: but they managed it. They managed to get clean water.
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: It was one of the most hilarious images was the
• 59:48
  Speaker 2: women's piss water versus the men's clean water. And they
• 59:53
  Speaker 2: had lots of it too. Like the women, they managed
• 59:55
  Speaker 2: to pull together and create like one plastic bottle of
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: what looked like urine. They didn't develop a filtration system.
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 2: The men had created a filtration system, and they had
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: gallons of fresh water, so they're just walking up and
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 2: taking a swig whenever they want, and women are just
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 2: pissed waters all we have. It's like this is completely
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 2: divorced from reality. And honestly, the men who are multimillionaires,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: unless they inherited their wealth, they've probably had their experience
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 2: with hard labor. Like every guy has a worst job,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 2: a story about a worst job. Roofing in July, landscaping
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 2: in like August, you know, picking up trash, picking up
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 2: chickens in a chicken farm. Every dude that I've talked to,
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 2: or at least most of them, has a worse job,
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 2: which is usually labor focused, not women. Their worst job
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 2: is how I had to arrange the products in the
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 2: front room of an oar salon. It was so boring,
• 1:00:59
  Speaker 2: you know that kind of thing, right, so right there,
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 2: this is an incredibly unlike this only occurs in fantasy
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 2: that then woman has the survival skills. It is proportionately
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 2: unlikely to occur in reality. And most of those guys,
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: unless they were you know, and even if they were,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 2: they may have done things like gone into the military,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 2: even if they were from a rich family, or gone
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 2: into military school or gone into scouting, right, that's a
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: that's a far higher proportion of men who would have
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 2: cyber survival skills in this instance than women. So it's
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 2: a completely constructed reality, absolute bullshit. Why because women's egos
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: apparently need even more flattering, which is hilarious, because they
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: constantly need inflating. Because women are feel so insecure, they
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 2: are feel so humiliated by what men have created. So
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 2: insecure and humiliated by the achievements of men. That's why
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 2: they do this. We talk about Like a while back,
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 2: my therapist pointed out and this was a therapist who
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 2: dealt with actual competencies in dealing with anxiety, which I had.
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 2: He said that anxiety masks humiliation. Women affect this fear
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 2: of men because they feel so inferior to men. That's
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 2: what this is about.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, okay, that makes sense.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: I got a rumble rant from Nova fan uh for
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: a dollar and he says, don't forget another feminist trope.
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: I remember seeing a man is sent to save a woman,
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 1: but somehow he keeps failing at every basic task when
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: she may as well rescue herself. Yes, all right, so
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: let's just jump to the next section. It basically like
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: summed it up, contextualizing real world statistics against the exaggerated
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: portrayals of men in contemporary cinema. Oh that's good. The
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: gap between cinematic narrative and social reality is staggering. You
• 1:03:05
  Speaker 1: had no shit, but wow, they are lying a lot.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: I'm glad this person said this, though, this is an
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 1: interesting admission. In the film surveyed above, male characters are
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: overwhelmingly cast as predators, abusers, or enablers of violence, as
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 1: though every man is complicit in misogyny. Yeah, that's the point.
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: Yet hard data tells a very different story. Globally, only
• 1:03:29
  Speaker 1: a small fraction of men are ever accused of sexual harassment,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: whether formally or informally. In the United States, for example,
• 1:03:37
  Speaker 1: the Gender Employment Opportunity Commission or I'm sorry, the Equal
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 1: Employment Opportunity Commission received about seven six hundred sexual harassment
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 1: charges in twenty eighteen, the first full year of hashtag
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: me two, which represented less than point zero one percent
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: of the US male population. Even when looking at a
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 1: four year span twenty eighteen through twenty twenty one, the
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: little number of men formally accused through EEOC charges remains
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: well under zero point one percent of American men. Yeah,
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: but just to add to this, that's just the accusations.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: That doesn't actually represent whether or not it happened. It
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: just means this is how often women complained. These are
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: sexual harassment charges that were made right and in general,
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: in the workplace, if there is assuming this is a
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: workplace thing, if there is a an allegation made, the
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: company usually does whatever it can to just like handle
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: it as quickly and as quietly as possible, because they're,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: you know, don't want to harm their reputation, they want
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: to avoid lawsuits whatever. And a lot of the time
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: the men just get fired or they separate them in
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: some way or something, so they usually just do something
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 1: with it. Most of the time it results in the
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: men getting fired, is what I believe. And so you're
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: not this percentage is actually too big, is what I think.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 1: Workplace HR complaints are more common than lawsuits, but still
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: affect only a small minority of men. Yeah, but that's
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: because workplace HR complaints don't cost anything to make, so
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 1: you can just do it. Lawsuits cost money, so you
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: have to really think about whether or not you have
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 1: a case. Research suggests that perhaps one to two percent
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: of employed men over several years will face such an allegation.
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: Anonymous surveys castle wider net. About four percent of men
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: in a twenty seventeen survey admitted to behavior they considered harassment.
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 1: Even if we take the higher estimates, this still means
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: the overwhelming majority of men, upwards of ninety to ninety
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: five percent worldwide, are never accused of harassment at all.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 2: Well, okay, let's keep going, but I'm gonna give some
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 2: more context to the reality of male victimhood.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah yea, Now place those percentages beside the reality of
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: male victimhood. Around sixty to seventy percent of the homeless
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: in the US are men, a silent crisis rarely dramatized
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: in prestige cinema. Men also account for about seventy eight
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 1: percent of homicide victims, and globally, men die by suicide
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: at roughly three to four times the rate of women.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: They also make up the vast majority of workplace deaths,
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: overdose fatalities, and combat casualties. In other words, men are
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: not only disproportionately the accused and cultural narratives, but also
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: disproportionately the victims in real life.
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, and then you can add to that, because this
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 2: is this is omitting a big portion. You can add
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 2: to that the silent epidemic of sexual violence against men.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 2: The most accurate statistic is the National Intimate Partner in
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 2: Sexual Violence Surveys for twenty ten, twenty eleven, in twenty twelve,
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: and possibly also twenty fifteen. I haven't looked too closely
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 2: at it. After those dates, they significantly changed their methodology,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: which resulted in a massive reduction in the reporting rate
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 2: of male victims. And the reason why is because they
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 2: changed how they approached the questions. Instead of starting with
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 2: questions that sort of got people comfortable with revealing any
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: kind of sexual or domestic abuse, they would just drop
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: those questions in the middle of other questions, so it'd
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: be sort of like this, how many adults are in
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: your household? Oh? Oh, okay, so for adults, five children? Whatever?
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: All right?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: Have you ever been forcibly shoved down into garbage in
• 1:07:47
  Speaker 2: a alley and have your ainus expanded by somebody's table leg?
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: I mean that has ever happened to you? Oh?
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Oh oh?
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: You hung up? Hmm, Well that's really unfortunate, that's what
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: they were find I mean, it's a bit of an exaggeration,
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: but instead of actually building a rapport so that people
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 2: would start to be able to reveal sexual and domestic violence,
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: these surveyors started dropping these questions in unrelated questions in
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 2: an unrelated manner. And what a surprise. Not only did
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 2: they receive considerably less responses from men who probably were
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 2: much more uncomfortable operationalizing their abuse in the middle of
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 2: unrelated questions, they also got a lot more people who
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: just didn't complete the survey at all, Like the rate
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: went down from eighty to fifty. And then also the
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: people who just basically nope the hell out of the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 2: whole thing went from thirty or sorry went from mom
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: like seven percent to thirty. So they actually constructed the
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 2: survey instrument that caused people to more than ever before.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 2: It actually led to them having to stop the survey
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: halfway through. And nobody knows if this is actually legitimate,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: but this is the kind of chicanery they get up
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: to to try to make the results fit what they want,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: which is that men are the majority perpetrators. But if
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: you look at the results from the surveys that actually
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 2: asked men, even though they categorized it in this weird
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 2: made to penetrate. They actually asked men, where you physically
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 2: forced to have sex in the last year? Who did it?
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: You find in the end of the day that about
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 2: forty three percent of rapists or women, and if you
• 1:09:40
  Speaker 2: include underreporting in that, you're looking more at sixty seven percent.
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 2: If you look at the statistics on underreporting for men,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: it could be as high as sixty seven percent. So
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: the lower bound is about forty percent, the higher bound
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 2: is sixty seven percent. Sixty seven percent of rapists or
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 2: women within the realm of possibility. We don't know because
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 2: they instead of actually creating survey instruments to find out,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: they do weird chicanery to try to reduce the amount
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: of men to talk about their experiences like that. They
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: change the methodology, you know, with a wink, wink, nudge, nudge,
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: we'll we'll try to get a few male victims to
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: reveal so that we can continue to perpetrate our grift. Right,
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 2: So we don't know. We don't know, but it could
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 2: be anywhere between forty to sixty seven percent female rapists.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: That's an entire epidemic. And these chicks they are we're
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 2: not talking about I don't know a glass at a
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 2: glass of wine at dinner rate. We're talking about weapons,
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: we're talking about use of drugs, use of minor status.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 2: So in other words, they're preying on underage boys. And
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 2: we're talking about use of accusations, threats, credible threats of
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: this violence. What do you think of false accusation of rapists?
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 2: So flat out we are dealing with a silent epidemic
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 2: of female rapists in our society that nobody wants to
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 2: talk about. Nobody except us, not even this article wants
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 2: to talk about. Maybe they don't even know about it.
• 1:11:19
  Speaker 2: They don't even know about it. So even the absolute
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 2: like the specific arrangement of victimhood that they're presenting in
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 2: this cinema of sexual victimhood, may is most likely and
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: I actually had Grock run the numbers. It is highly
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 2: improbable that the National Intimate Partner in Sexual Violent Survey
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 2: for three years in a row would find that high
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: rate of female perpetration in a society in a world
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 2: if reality was significantly asymmetrical in its gender perpetration of
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 2: sexual violence. That means, if if reality really bore out
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 2: the way feminists insists it does, in which men are
• 1:11:59
  Speaker 2: ninety percent of the perpetrators of sexual violence. Those that
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 2: would that reality would never produce the statistics the National
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 2: Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey found for three years
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: in a row. Never, So something is not not making
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 2: sense here. And I can tell you one thing. It's
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 2: not the most accurate. It is not the most accurate
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: statistics on who is being raped and who's doing the raping.
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 2: That's not the problem. The problem is the feminist framework
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 2: of reality. So even there, even if we just look
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 2: at what they're talking about, their frame of how women
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 2: are victims of men, it's unsupported. It is unsupported. They
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: are constructing an absolute bullshit. We don't have to go
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: to homelessness rates, suicide rates, death and war rates, death
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 2: in workplace, accident rates. Right there, right at the epicenter
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 2: of what they are convinced is women's fortress. A victim
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: hard men have a steak. They one hundred percent have
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 2: a right to be heard as victims of this thing
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: that women have claimed for themselves, which is rape.
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, all right, So now let's look at relationships and
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: intimate partner violence. A large US study of young adults
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 1: found that about twenty four percent of the relationships had
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: some violence. About half of those were reciprocal. But there's
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 1: here's the real shocker. When intimate partner vants was one sided,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: women were the perpetrator in more than seventy percent of
• 1:13:39
  Speaker 1: those cases. Actually not shocking to us because we knew
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: this already. So you're basically catching up with like reality.
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: I guess that's fine. So contrast these statistics with cinematic landscape,
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: and of course they obviously yeah, it's it's the opposite
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: of reality. The disjunction matters when films repeatedly suggest that
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: men as a class are dangerous, complicit, or broken, they
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: risk cementing a cultural script that far outstrips reality. Yes,
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: harassment and abuse are serious problems, but they are perpetrated
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: by a minority of men, often repeat offenders. Cinema, however,
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: portrays them as the majority, if not the entirety. Meanwhile,
• 1:14:18
  Speaker 1: the real vulnerabilities of men, homelessness, suicide, homicide are raised
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: from the screen. The result is a distortion. Audiences are
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: invited to see the problem not as a subset of
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: bad actors, but as masculinity itself. Yes, all this is true,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: and the purpose of it is, of course to present
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: it this way. And touch the fiefees on the audience
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: so that they believe this. They even sell a lot
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: of these films which are fictional accounts completely, but they'll
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: sell them as a reflective of reality, if not reality itself. Remember,
• 1:14:51
  Speaker 1: they tried to claim that Adolescence was a documentary, and
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 1: that's not an accident. They still make this claim. So okay,
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: in real life, not on screen. It's actually safer to
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: be a woman than a man. That's true. I can't
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: argue with that, Alison. Are you arguing with Ryan Lopez?
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 2: I am.
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 1: He just got here and he just he doesn't know
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: that we've been doing this for like what fourteen years?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Well, you wouldn't have arguments if it weren't for people
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: like us, I'm sorry to tell you. But your boy
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: that you love so much, he got his arguments from us.
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 2: Who's the boy that he loves so much?
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: Fresh and fit?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 2: Oh oh yeah?
• 1:15:45
  Speaker 1: Those guys earl fresh and fit? You know whatever. Those guys,
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: they all they all were watching content like ours that's
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: been here for over a decade and now they're just
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: adopting it. But they didn't find it, they didn't do
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 1: the work.
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I mean Andrew Wilson has done a
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 2: shout out for us, So thank you.
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: Wilson has given us a shout out. Yes, okay, yeah,
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 1: so fine, welcome to the stream. But you know you
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: must be new here because we've been doing this a
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: long time, and you can go into our channel and
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 1: see the track record. We've been doing this a long time.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 2: Lots of predictions.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: Yes, we've made a lot of predictions.
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 2: Including Gamergaate, Like we predicted Gamergate before it happened. I
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 2: don't know if you were a producer then at but
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: what I remember doing, well, I remember, Actually I don't
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 2: think you were, because you came in on twenty fifteen,
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 2: but two times I have.
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: I think I've been doing it since twenty fourteen.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 2: Okay, but twenty thirteen I did an episode on Anita
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 2: Sarkisian will Absolve You of your Sins. So it was
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 2: talking about how the gaming community was going to be
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 2: taken over by this quasi religious expectation that they can
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 2: to a particular viewpoint. That was in twenty thirteen. What
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 2: happened in twenty fourteen, right, So yeah, we've made we've
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 2: made predictions. The things that have happened and have subsequently happened,
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 2: But so stick around. Maybe you'll find some of our
• 1:17:19
  Speaker 2: stuff interesting, even though apparently you have a problem with
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 2: my arguments, but you don't.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: Know which ones he's taken. The l it's fine, he
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 1: thinks that men are being greated better than ever. Well,
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 1: I mean they maybe until they're not. But all right,
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: so anyway, in I don't think they're victims. Don't get
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: it twisted. I don't bind it the victim narrative. But
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 1: I do think there are blind spots in the way
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 1: that we look at men's problems compared to women's, and
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: I think that's that's a different thing.
• 1:17:51
  Speaker 2: What does it mean victims? Yes, men can be victims.
• 1:17:54
  Speaker 1: Of things, No, but I mean victim in the feminist sense,
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: like the systemic victimhood, Like you can't.
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Do that because the thing only women can do that.
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Only women can use their victimhood as a form of
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 2: social currency. Men can't, Right, And that's why I understand
• 1:18:10
  Speaker 2: why people like Ryan reject Ryan Lopez reject the recognition
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 2: of men's victim hidden circumcircumstances, because you can't use it
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 2: as social currency. It's just supposedly failure. Right, Well, it's
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 2: the truth, Okay, I'm sorry. It's the truth. Is regardless
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 2: of how you feel about it, it is the truth. Yeah,
• 1:18:40
  Speaker 2: I'm supposed to lie, Okay, all right?
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: Bottom line absolute numbers. When you tally deaths and serious injuries, homicide, suicide,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 1: fatal work injuries, and ed treated violence, men are harmed
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: and killed in greater numbers. Overall. Women do suffer more
• 1:18:58
  Speaker 1: sexual and partner violence, usually from a partner, ex partner,
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 1: or family member, with only about twenty to thirty percent
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: of sexual violence is done by strangers. Taking the full
• 1:19:08
  Speaker 1: ledger into account, it's clear that on balance, it is
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: much safer to be a woman than a man, and
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: they live on average five years longer two yeah in
• 1:19:15
  Speaker 1: the other world, or one to.
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 2: Two of three. One to two of those years is
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 2: actually due to stress and workplace injury because they are
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 2: responsible primarily for maintaining society, So men are losing life
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: span in order to make sure everybody is protected and
• 1:19:35
  Speaker 2: provided for and comfortable and fed.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 1: Mm hmm, all right. In other words, these so called
• 1:19:48
  Speaker 1: brave realist social dramas are anything but in truth. According
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: to the hard facts, their closement of science fiction fit
• 1:19:54
  Speaker 1: to be shelved alongside at astra Inception and Blade Runner.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 1: Turns out sci fi movies can win ponds after all.
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 1: Post hashtag me too, revenge and the ideological shift in Hollywood, Okay,
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: I wonder if they're going to make a prediction. All right,
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: These betrayals are no accident of individual storytelling, but part
• 1:20:19
  Speaker 1: of a broader ideological shift in Hollywood after the hashtag
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: me too movement in late twenty seventeen, the Harvey Weinstein
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: scandal and the hashtag me too reckoning exposed the prevalence
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 1: of sexual misconduct by powerful men, not just in entertainment
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: but across society. The response from the creative community was
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: swift that continues to reverberate, more films centering women's perspectives,
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 1: more brutal examinations of gender power imbalance, and unmistakably less
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: patients for glorifying or excusing bad men.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 2: In fact, Hollywood, when was their patience for glorifying or
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 2: excusing bad men? And first of all, I haven't a
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 2: lot of the me too accusations collapsed.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: A lot of them. Yes, Harvey Weinstein's probably gonna beat, like,
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: I think, every case against him because it was consensual.
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 2: And then Cosby also collapsed because of tampering with the evidence. Yeah,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 2: like this, there is a substantial amount of the me
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 2: two cases that collapse because this was a witch hunt.
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: All right, Okay, let's see. In fact, Hollywood has arguably
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: turned cinema into a vehicle for advocacy. Determined to dramatize
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 1: the wages of male sin, Hollywood is now becoming its
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 1: own loudest voice and helping to call out what a
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 1: bad thing this is, observes Robert Thompson, professor of Popular
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 1: culture at Syracuse University, referring to sexual harassment and abuse.
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: By embedding Meto's lessons into scripts and characters, filmmakers have
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 1: essentially institutionalized a cultural reckoning within popular narratives. The me
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 1: Too movement was at the front lines, then it becomes
• 1:21:58
  Speaker 1: institutionalized by these films and TV shows, which people will
• 1:22:01
  Speaker 1: continue to watch years later. Thompson notes, pointing out that
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: fiction can serve as a long lasting record of the
• 1:22:07
  Speaker 1: era's lessons. In other words, long after the news headlines
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 1: of predatory bosses fade, movies like The Assistant or Promising
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: Young Women will remain to remind future viewers of the
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 1: period when society finally said enough to men's abuse of power.
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  Speaker 1: Many creators are openly intentional about this mission to society.
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  Speaker 2: Finally said enough about men's abuse of power, as if
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 2: this hasn't been consistent throughout history that when men abused women,
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 2: they were subject to censure by other men, like this
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 2: is the wear guild. Women commanded more of a wear guild,
• 1:22:53
  Speaker 2: and not just for being physically hurt, but also sexually
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 2: offended against or take or And at the time, sexual
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 2: offense could be for things that we wouldn't well maybe
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 2: we would now right, being talked out of turn, talked
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 2: to out of turn by a man could be subject
• 1:23:12
  Speaker 2: to a fine under the wear guild system. So not
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: only women were protected physically against assault and violence like murder,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 2: they were also their sexuality was protected in a way
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 2: that men's wasn't against defense. Okay, so men have protected
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 2: women against other men throughout all of human history. This
• 1:23:35
  Speaker 2: is the first time where I'm guessing we made a
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 2: women attempted to get rid of the idea of due
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 2: process and just make everything a social lynch mob. And
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: then they called that progress dismantling one of the fundamental
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 2: principles of an advanced civilization, due process is progress. For women.
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  Speaker 2: This is why they this is why they weren't allowed
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  Speaker 2: to vote. I'm just saying.
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  Speaker 1: Many creators are openly intentional about this mission. Kitty Green,
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: writer director of The Assistant, based her film's grim portrayal
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 1: of a Weinstein like boss on real testimonies, and has
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 1: said she wanted male viewers to feel a tad uncomfortable.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 1: A lot of men come out feeling very uncomfortable. Green
• 1:24:20
  Speaker 1: noted of audience reactions, adding, I think a little bit
• 1:24:23
  Speaker 1: of discomfort is what we need right now if we
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 1: want things to change again. Okay, so these are portrayals
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: of a Weinstein like boss based on real testimonies. But
• 1:24:35
  Speaker 1: if the testimonies were falling apart, which they appear to be,
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: then this is a film built on lies because you
• 1:24:42
  Speaker 1: just believed what you were told and you've made people
• 1:24:46
  Speaker 1: uncomfortable for no reason.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. That's another thing that we've done, honestly, is we
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 2: have actually maintained due process and presumption of innocence for
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 2: these people who have been accused by the Me Too
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 2: and in some cases partly vindicated. Now, Weinstein probably was
• 1:25:04
  Speaker 2: a sex pest, but did he actually sexually assault these women.
• 1:25:09
  Speaker 2: It's looking like No, Cosby definitely had some pretty degenerate
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 2: tastes in his sexual piccadellos, but it wasn't looking like
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: he assaulted anyone. And we have maintained this line for
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 2: years now. Okay, all right, just another thing we've done.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: This essentially, what I'm saying, I always have to justify
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: your existence. Huh.
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 1: The other thing is too, is that like you know,
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 1: these films, they they do well with critics and like
• 1:25:45
  Speaker 1: the snobs in the filmmaking community space too, so that
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 1: encourages more people to make more movies like this. Like
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 1: when I was going to art school, if you can
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 1: be a really shitty artist, but if your art has
• 1:26:01
  Speaker 1: said something about the political climate, like whether it was
• 1:26:04
  Speaker 1: about you know, socialism being good or climate change or
• 1:26:08
  Speaker 1: feminism or race rights, then your shitty project would get
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 1: a higher grade and maybe even get displayed in a
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 1: gallery somewhere because you had the right opinions about stuff.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: And what that did was it encouraged, if not straight
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 1: up manipulated students to making more content like that because
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 1: they wanted to like basically get the accolades for having
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: the right social opinions on things. And so I think
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 1: the same thing happens in film. This is why indie
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 1: movies I hate them so much, because they're almost always
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 1: a kind of like social commentary, which is almost always
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 1: a leftist one. And that's what they put out there,
• 1:26:46
  Speaker 1: and that's what succeeds, and that's what gets oscars, and
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 1: that's what gets you know, baptaz or whatever and so
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 1: what that it creates a cycle of everyone else doing
• 1:26:55
  Speaker 1: that too, and so you just get more of this
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 1: feminist crap than like authenticity. You get more of this
• 1:27:02
  Speaker 1: shit than anything that's real, Which is why you're not
• 1:27:05
  Speaker 1: gonna see movies that are about, you know, like the
• 1:27:09
  Speaker 1: truth about male suffering, whether it's homelessness or not having
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 1: access to children or whatever it is, Right, You're just
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 1: not gonna get that. It has to have something in
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: it that is, you know, friendly to the sensibilities of
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: people in the industry of filmmaking and that and their
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 1: viewpoints on the world. So and the more of those
• 1:27:32
  Speaker 1: boxes you can tick, the better your movie is gonna be,
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: the more praise is going to get. So all right, anyway.
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: Emerald Fennel, who wrote and directed Promising Young Woman, has
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: similarly explained that her film is a pointed response to
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: decades of endemic sexism. She deliberately filled it with situations
• 1:27:50
  Speaker 1: drawn from real life. There's nothing in it that isn't
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: extremely commonplace, Fennel said, emphasizing that the predatory behaviors depicted
• 1:27:58
  Speaker 1: are all too familiar in widespread. That commonality is precisely
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: the point. Her film suggests. The problem is all around
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: us in every nice guy at the bar, which is
• 1:28:08
  Speaker 1: obviously not true. But we already went over that.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 2: So yeah, and there's a substantial amount of the problem
• 1:28:15
  Speaker 2: that women need to take responsibility for and increasing like
• 1:28:19
  Speaker 2: increasing that was like those numbers, forty to sixty seven
• 1:28:25
  Speaker 2: percent of sexual violence could be perpetrated by women. Those
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 2: numbers were from a decade and a half ago. The
• 1:28:33
  Speaker 2: millennial shift suggests that could have gotten even higher. And
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 2: it's not that that's true because we don't have the
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 2: science yet. It's that it could be true and we
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 1:28:47
  Speaker 1: All right, Yep. The surge of female led vengeance tales
• 1:28:51
  Speaker 1: and social satires is so notable that even mainstream media
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 1: began to notice a new subgenre in a post hashtag
• 1:28:58
  Speaker 1: me too world, How better to find escape is fun
• 1:29:01
  Speaker 1: than by ruthlessly dispatching awful men at the Multiplex, equipped
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: the Washington Posts and Hornaday, what unfortunate name that is
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: commenting on the wave of films inviting audiences to revel
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 1: in women getting payback against brutish men. It's it's so
• 1:29:17
  Speaker 1: it's kind of sick, isn't it. Like do women really
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, I guess, I guess there's definitely a subset
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 1: of women that get off on that. Even men too,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: actually that get off on that stuff.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Like I remember being really annoyed at some piece
• 1:29:34
  Speaker 2: of fiction. I think it was sort of like a
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 2: modern Western TV series, and the guys were just like
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 2: every every man was sort of tainted, and then they
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 2: were predatory and the women were all basically victims. And
• 1:29:46
  Speaker 2: I was like, this is annoying. But there were guys
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 2: who in the discord who were like, nah, I'll take it.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 2: I'm okay with this, or or actually it was a
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 2: it was a movie, to be honest, but it was
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 2: have a similar nature. And I realize it's because men
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 2: don't have a problem with admitting to the sexual violence
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 2: that men engage in, right, They're not going to sit
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 2: there and say that doesn't happen, or we don't have
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 2: to take responsibility for it insofar as preventing it happening,
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 2: protecting our female relatives, et cetera, right, and also taking
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 2: part in the altruism that prevents and punishes it. The
• 1:30:27
  Speaker 2: altruistic punishment basically cops and prosecutors, et cetera, jailers. Right.
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 2: So the men don't actually have a problem with these narratives.
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 2: Now I think they're starting to because now there's no
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 2: good guy that's actually fighting back, right and actually represents
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 2: the way that men should conduct themselves. So like a
• 1:30:51
  Speaker 2: lot of guys are getting more upset at this because
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 2: of the removal of that character. But for the most part,
• 1:30:57
  Speaker 2: and maybe that's something that's admirable about men, They are
• 1:31:01
  Speaker 2: okay with narratives in which men are sexually violent because
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 2: they recognize that men are responsible for their half of
• 1:31:10
  Speaker 2: sexually predatory behavior. It's women who have a problem with that,
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 2: not just recognizing it, but going so far as to
• 1:31:20
  Speaker 2: police it, to start shaming it. And again, this is
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 2: something that women were better at a generation.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 1: Echo okay mm hmm, okay. From stylish rape revenge thrillers
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 1: like promising women to action flicks with female assassins mowing
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: down male abusers. Vengeance is presented as cathartic justice. These
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: movies have a clear emotional aim deliver satisfaction by punishing
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 1: or overcoming the onscreen avatars of so called toxic masculinity.
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 1: Porn Today noted that as gratifying as this can be,
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 1: it also has become formulaic, a dubious cycle of abusive
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: men and the women savagely getting their own back, to
• 1:32:06
  Speaker 1: the point where it's feeling monotonous and even like its
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 1: own form of toxicity. In short, flipping the gender script,
• 1:32:12
  Speaker 1: making women the heroes and men the villains. That's not
• 1:32:16
  Speaker 1: flipping the script. What are you talking about? When have
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: we had a period where women were the villains and
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 1: men were the heroes? When Yeah, I mean there are
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 1: individual examples of female villains, but it's not like a
• 1:32:30
  Speaker 1: whole you know, like a whole series of films where
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 1: all the women were evil and all the men were
• 1:32:36
  Speaker 1: good like that. Just what do you mean flipping the scripts?
• 1:32:41
  Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. This person's writing this.
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 1: They probably thought it was a clever turn of phrase.
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 1: It just doesn't make sense.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: No, it doesn't, because met women were never universally cast
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: as villains. Maybe and I don't even honestly, if you
• 1:32:54
  Speaker 2: look back at older cinema, they weren't universally cast as
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 2: damsels either. No, they may not have gone toe to
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 2: toe with men physically, but they usually were competent in
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 2: other ways, which is why they were part of the story.
• 1:33:09
  Speaker 2: But yeah, it's uh, some feminists worry it creates a
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: new kind of caricature. Why do we have to care
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 2: about feminists worrying?
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: Why is it that it's feminism Because the rest of
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: the sentence says, in short, flipping the gender script, making
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: women and heroes and men the villains may redress and
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 1: age old imbalance. What are you talking about? What age
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 1: old imbalance? But if every story is framed as women good,
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: men bad, even some feminist worry it creates a new
• 1:33:41
  Speaker 1: kind of caricature. What do you mean, a new kind
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: of caricature? Like, you're all of this is presupposing quite
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 1: a bit before.
• 1:33:49
  Speaker 2: This happened, you know, yeah, you're you're you got a
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 2: lot of assumptions you're making here. There was never a
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 2: point in time where women were cast as villains and
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 2: men as heroes universally like this. This isn't flipping any script, right,
• 1:34:04
  Speaker 2: There's never a point in time where women were bad
• 1:34:07
  Speaker 2: and men were good, not in this not in any
• 1:34:11
  Speaker 2: kind of recent memory, certainly not during the Victorian era
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 2: when women were the angels of the house, and so
• 1:34:19
  Speaker 2: like this is this is just you're you're off in
• 1:34:21
  Speaker 2: your weeds here, You're like, oh, this this manufactured reality
• 1:34:25
  Speaker 2: doesn't doesn't make sense to me. It's manufactured. My manufactured
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 2: reality is correct.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 5: Like what.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: Even its own form of toxicity? Oh and uh, I
• 1:34:36
  Speaker 2: like monotonous and formulaic. Yeah, enjoy, you're boring regurgitated paint
• 1:34:43
  Speaker 2: by numbers movies everyone, because that's what you're getting for
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 2: the rest of eternity. No nuance, no character development, just
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 2: the same thing, over and over and over again. We're
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 2: all going to be occupying our little cell in the
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 2: intersectional ziggurat being fed the same lukewarm problem for the
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 2: rest of eternity. Okay.
• 1:35:07
  Speaker 1: I wonder if this period of films will be looked
• 1:35:10
  Speaker 1: back on as a kind of exploitation period. Like in
• 1:35:16
  Speaker 1: the seventies we had black exploitation movies and they were
• 1:35:20
  Speaker 1: all like low budget movies that featured black man, black
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 1: casts and black man characters. And then there was what
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 1: I guess you ever heard of Bruce Floitation. Because of
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 1: the popularity of Bruce Lee, there were a bunch of
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 1: Bruce Lee imitators like Bruce Lai and Bruce Lay and
• 1:35:34
  Speaker 1: I swear to god, these are real, and they made
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: a bunch of martial arts films trying to pass them
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 1: off as Bruce Lee movies, but they weren't. It was
• 1:35:42
  Speaker 1: called Bruce Floitation. I wonder if they'll look back on
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: this and call it like me too'sploitation or something, where
• 1:35:48
  Speaker 1: these are all like these female feminist revenge movies that
• 1:35:51
  Speaker 1: nobody liked, and they were all like the same formulaic,
• 1:35:56
  Speaker 1: you know stories. They were just like you know, crank doubt.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 1: So anyway, still it's clear that for now, Hollywood.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: What Okay, I'm just really curious why we've offended Ryan
• 1:36:10
  Speaker 2: Yulopez so much by our existence. Okay, continue, I don't know.
• 1:36:17
  Speaker 1: I think he's just spurging out and there doesn't seem
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 1: to be any reason for it. But anyway, still, it's
• 1:36:23
  Speaker 1: clear that for now, Hollywood and the independent film world
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 1: sees itself as having a moral mandate. The entertainment industry was,
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: after all, ground zero for hashtag me too. No, all,
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 1: look all alaving me too. Did was exposed what we
• 1:36:37
  Speaker 1: already knew that there was a thing called the casting couch,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: and there were plenty of women that were willing to
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 1: throw away their dignity to get a good role and
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: become super famous. And that's why they were all thanking
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 1: Harvey Weinstein for making their careers. And all it did
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: was expose that, and they knew that they were ashamed,
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: and so they tried to cover it up by accusing him.
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 1: It's just like what happens when a woman she on
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 1: her boyfriend or husband, and then when it looks like
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 1: she's gonna get caught, she accuses the boy the person
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 1: she cheated with, of raping her because it protects her
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 1: dignity and she doesn't care what happens to him in
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: the process. It's basically the same thing. So Pepito gives
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: us twenty five dollars, can we get some Italian hands
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: in the chat? Pepito is it's twenty five dollars and says,
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 1: flipping the script is what we should do. Good show, badgress. Thanks,
• 1:37:29
  Speaker 1: thank you, Pepito. All right, anyway, now it is using
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: the tools of storytelling to reinforce the movement's message. As
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: one Reuter's report put it, postwin scene, Hollywood is helping
• 1:37:42
  Speaker 1: to call out mad male behavior and embed these cautionary
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: tales into the culture. We are essentially watching a form
• 1:37:49
  Speaker 1: of cultural revenge play out on screen, a backlash against
• 1:37:53
  Speaker 1: generations of male dominated narratives. If the old Hollywood exalted
• 1:37:57
  Speaker 1: the suave leading man, the new Hollywood offensive jets him
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: to a trial by fire, sometimes literally. Yeah, but the
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 1: suave leading man did not exist as suave at the
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: expense of the women on screen.
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 2: No, that's the that's the that's the assumption at the
• 1:38:14
  Speaker 2: heart of this is that male characters in the past
• 1:38:17
  Speaker 2: existed at the expense of female characters. Actually, female characters
• 1:38:20
  Speaker 2: in past cinema were more interesting, more realized. They just didn't.
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 2: We weren't constantly at war with the men, the leading
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 2: men in their movies. This is again, this is not
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 2: a reversal a backlash. This is not a reversal, and
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 2: it's not a backlash because there's nothing to backlash against.
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 2: And the other thing is how it did Hollywood put
• 1:38:48
  Speaker 2: itself in position to lecture the rest of the world
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 2: about Hollywood's own problems.
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, exactly what they did the Me Too movement,
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 1: which which was a Hollywood problem. And again I would
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 1: say not a problem at all, because you don't have
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 1: to fuck the guy if you can just like hold
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 1: on to your fucking dignity and just say I'm not
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 1: doing that. But they didn't. There were women who said
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 1: they signed the contract, they sold their souls, and now
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: they want to blame everyone else. And they pivoted away
• 1:39:18
  Speaker 1: from Hollywood and they made me to everyone's problem. And
• 1:39:23
  Speaker 1: it worked because there were men in the workplace, you know,
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: getting fired left and right over every little slight yep or.
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 2: Even made up slights. Yeah, put out that's that's that's
• 1:39:38
  Speaker 2: a firing. Okay, Okay, how many more paragraphs is there?
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 2: Because we still have to go through byrony and I'm
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 2: assuming that.
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 1: You got uh, this is kind of long. It looks like, well,
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 1: let's just let's just okay. So they're basically toxic masculinity
• 1:39:53
  Speaker 1: from pop psychology to Hollywood gospel. So they talk a
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 1: little bit about we know what toxic masculinity is. Uh,
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Hollywood's embrace this with.
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 2: Zeal We could you know what we could finish this
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: article at a later date. Yeah, for it goes forever.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: So let's let's get.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 1: Into by toxic masculinity. Come back to this later.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 2: There's plenty in here, guys. You can go look at
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 2: the article yourself and model and just just a spoiler.
• 1:40:28
  Speaker 2: At the end, result of recognizing all of this ship
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 2: that's being put on men in cinema, he this individual
• 1:40:37
  Speaker 2: calls for let's let's just get along. Mm hmmm, like, okay,
• 1:40:44
  Speaker 2: don't don't recognize what group of people is pushing this
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 2: crap and call them out for it. Let's just all
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 2: get along, So men should just keep enduring it. I
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 2: guess all right, let's let's get into Barny. I could
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 2: use a little bit of a break from this. I
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 2: don't know if Barty is really a break.
• 1:41:04
  Speaker 1: No, no, it's a different kind of cringe. So this
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: is a Briardy Claire video called why is everyone quitting
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: birth control? Everyone? I guess you mean women?
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 2: But okay, because men don't really have any?
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because men don't really have any I mean, but okay.
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: So she's basically making the argument that women should I
• 1:41:31
  Speaker 1: don't know, like they need to have choice in birth
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 1: control or something. But let's see, let me see, let
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 1: me see here. All right, let's play a little bit
• 1:41:43
  Speaker 1: of the intro so you guys can get a sense
• 1:41:45
  Speaker 1: of it. Let me know a chicken to see if
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 1: the sound works. No, it's not working, so I gotta like,
• 1:41:50
  Speaker 1: I gotta do this over again. Stop sharing, and then
• 1:41:53
  Speaker 1: I got to reshare it? Just give me a second, guys,
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 1: for some reason, this happens every so often. But okay,
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 1: here we go.
• 1:42:01
  Speaker 6: Muvy Wade being overturned wasn't enough. Now they're coming for
• 1:42:04
  Speaker 6: birth control. No really, whilst everyone was distracted with the
• 1:42:08
  Speaker 6: Charlie Kirk discourse, which, let's be real, is still going on.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 2: Firstly, on the same day the event happened, and everybody.
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 1: So Charlie Kirk getting assassinated is a distraction? Okay, all right?
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 1: They killer guy? Why are you distracted by that? Okay,
• 1:42:23
  Speaker 1: I see where you're at. Byroney, you have no soul,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 1: your demon. All right, let's keep going.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 6: Straight to talking about it.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 4: Senator.
• 1:42:29
  Speaker 6: Republicans are voted to block the release of the Epstein files,
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 6: and the Trump administration told New York Times that birth
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 6: controls such as hormonal implants, the pill and iud's that
• 1:42:37
  Speaker 6: those are actually abortions. Jessica FIALENTI was the person I
• 1:42:40
  Speaker 6: originally heard this from, and I'm going to link their
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 6: substeck for you down below along.
• 1:42:44
  Speaker 2: With their Instagram.
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  Speaker 6: As this guy said on my last video, Bye bye.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 6: Aud's birth control and abortions first at South Carolina, hopefully
• 1:42:51
  Speaker 6: next sits all of America hold women accountable again.
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 2: I just I, just a couple of days ago, responded
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 2: to there was a tweet by a woman who said
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: that real men take responsibility for a single woman's children,
• 1:43:05
  Speaker 2: So essentially, real men take responsibility for the effects of
• 1:43:09
  Speaker 2: someone else's sex life. Yep, but women can't take responsibility
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 2: for the effects of their own sex life. Okay, now,
• 1:43:18
  Speaker 2: I'm pro choice, but I don't necessarily agree with government
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 2: funding that choice or offloading the responsibility for your sex
• 1:43:28
  Speaker 2: life onto other tax payers they don't like. They're not
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 2: obligated to pay for your entertainment. And as far as
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 2: I can tell it, you guys just can consider sex
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 2: to be entertainment. You don't consider it to be a
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 2: human right. If you did, you'd have a completely different
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 2: attitude towards in cells you consider it to be entertainment,
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 2: why should anyone have to pay for your entertainment? Or
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: the consequences are preventing the consequences of your entertainment to yourself.
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:44:00
  Speaker 2: Like they're not saying that this stuff won't exist for
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 2: you to pay for. They just don't want to pay
• 1:44:06
  Speaker 2: for it themselves. They don't want to pay for it
• 1:44:09
  Speaker 2: for the other people in their nation, and they don't
• 1:44:12
  Speaker 2: want to pay for it abroad. As an a narco capitalist,
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 2: even though I'm pro choice, I agree with those sentiments.
• 1:44:22
  Speaker 2: Nobody should have to pay for the consequences of your
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 2: entertainment on yourself.
• 1:44:28
  Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think that's inconsistent with being like an
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 1: end cap at all. Because what Barrity Claire is arguing
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 1: for and a lot of these women Jessica Vlenti, that's
• 1:44:42
  Speaker 1: a name I haven't heard in a while. There, they
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 1: are saying that this should be paid for by the state,
• 1:44:50
  Speaker 1: which is slavery.
• 1:44:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like like nobody has to pay for no, the
• 1:44:57
  Speaker 2: rest of the world does not have to pay or
• 1:45:00
  Speaker 2: your destruction, yeah, like you're your your your chosen desire.
• 1:45:06
  Speaker 1: Your your your irresponsibility.
• 1:45:11
  Speaker 2: Well or even funding funding your destruction to the society
• 1:45:15
  Speaker 2: that gives you all these rights. Like Okay, I just
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 2: wanted to say, because people are like, oh, Ryan Low
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 2: Lopez was it Lopez? Yeah, got owned. I just wanted
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 2: him to present his argument, that's all, Like I didn't.
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 2: I mean, he's all he did was just sit there
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 2: and feel, vibe, like create, like add his his feelings
• 1:45:36
  Speaker 2: to the There was no argument. No, I'm like disappointed.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 2: Where was your argument? Why didn't you present an argument?
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 2: You kept saying you had one? Okay, yeah, okay, Like
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 2: I have an argument. Well we'll share it, Like, share
• 1:45:52
  Speaker 2: it with the class. Please. I have an argument and
• 1:45:54
  Speaker 2: it's it's perfect. It'll totally annihilate, blow you out of
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 2: the water. You'll realize that you're completely lame. Okay, Well
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 2: share it with the class.
• 1:46:04
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no argument anyway, mongering. I don't think. I don't
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 1: think that Trump is going to make birth control illegal
• 1:46:13
  Speaker 1: or something. I think that states have whatever right, they
• 1:46:16
  Speaker 1: have the right to do whatever they want, and some
• 1:46:18
  Speaker 1: of them may do that. But that's your Australian what
• 1:46:21
  Speaker 1: do you care? Yeah, anyway, okay, so I'll play the
• 1:46:26
  Speaker 1: rest of this clip.
• 1:46:27
  Speaker 6: Accountable for medical access. What is actually wanted is for
• 1:46:31
  Speaker 6: us to lose control about autonomy. This topic was voted
• 1:46:34
  Speaker 6: by my patron.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 2: Why do I have to pay for your entertainment? Byrony?
• 1:46:40
  Speaker 2: Aren't you a lesbian? Why do I have to pay
• 1:46:44
  Speaker 2: for them the police to stop your lesbian lover from
• 1:46:47
  Speaker 2: beating the ship out of you?
• 1:46:50
  Speaker 1: Yeah? Well, I think she's supposed to be. I think
• 1:46:53
  Speaker 1: she's married, but queer or something.
• 1:46:55
  Speaker 2: Who knows wherever she's married to. Unless that's a woman,
• 1:46:59
  Speaker 2: it's a dude. It's a dude. Okay.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 1: Maybe she has talked about her husband in other videos.
• 1:47:06
  Speaker 1: That's the only reason why I know.
• 1:47:07
  Speaker 2: Wow. Well, either this is a complete grift and she
• 1:47:11
  Speaker 2: just knows how to make money, which I hope for
• 1:47:14
  Speaker 2: his sake that's what it is, or this is this
• 1:47:19
  Speaker 2: is not gonna end well for him.
• 1:47:21
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 1:47:22
  Speaker 6: Okay, taking some cookies because I think we only need
• 1:47:26
  Speaker 6: a sweet trait. It's not my recipe. I've just kind of.
• 1:47:32
  Speaker 2: All right, let me uh really really okay, all right, fine, pink,
• 1:47:36
  Speaker 2: I understand. But that pink, that pepto bismal pink, that
• 1:47:41
  Speaker 2: queasy stomach pink that you don't know if you should
• 1:47:45
  Speaker 2: put your your your freaking face, your button the toilet
• 1:47:48
  Speaker 2: pink like oh good lord, mm hmmm. I just found
• 1:47:53
  Speaker 2: that pink offensive.
• 1:47:55
  Speaker 1: I get it. Everything about her as offensive to me.
• 1:47:59
  Speaker 6: What did she get back so much so that she
• 1:48:01
  Speaker 6: had to put a stop to it very quickly afterwards?
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 6: Because why someone please think of the children.
• 1:48:07
  Speaker 1: I guess was a singer who was distributing morning after
• 1:48:11
  Speaker 1: pills at her concerts. I think it's weird. It's weird, weird, Like, yeah,
• 1:48:20
  Speaker 1: I guess Bernie Claire would just think that's sex positive
• 1:48:23
  Speaker 1: or something. But I think it's really strange. I would
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 1: feel really strange. Til Deer says she's like most queer people,
• 1:48:31
  Speaker 1: totally straight, but with extra steps. Again Victim Cloud, Yes, absolutely,
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 1: she's married to a man. She's only involved with men,
• 1:48:39
  Speaker 1: but she calls himself queer. And what are you gonna
• 1:48:42
  Speaker 1: do argue against it? You can't. But she's doing all
• 1:48:46
  Speaker 1: of the heterosexual stuff, all of it except making babies probably,
• 1:48:51
  Speaker 1: And you know what I'm I'm for that.
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 2: We don't where DoD til Deer send his message.
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 1: He's in the chat.
• 1:49:00
  Speaker 2: I don't see the message.
• 1:49:01
  Speaker 1: I see it. You gotta switch the live chat maybe
• 1:49:05
  Speaker 1: instead of top.
• 1:49:06
  Speaker 2: Chat, of course, Oh yeah, there is.
• 1:49:11
  Speaker 1: I don't know why YouTube even has a top chat.
• 1:49:13
  Speaker 1: I think it's just another way to filter people out.
• 1:49:15
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I didn't even realize a live chat.
• 1:49:18
  Speaker 1: If you're looking at YouTube otherwise, you'll miss some comments
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 1: and I don't know why.
• 1:49:23
  Speaker 2: We'll fascinating. Oh, by the way, if you want to
• 1:49:25
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• 1:49:31
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• 1:49:45
  Speaker 2: slash just the tip. All right, let's keep going, all right?
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 6: The pill and the impant or the rod and not
• 1:49:53
  Speaker 6: just prescribe for best control reasons. Yet these are the
• 1:49:56
  Speaker 6: ones which are being targeted.
• 1:49:57
  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? Are you is not prescribed for
• 1:50:02
  Speaker 2: anything but birth controllers? Are you?
• 1:50:05
  Speaker 1: No? No, she said they're not. Well, she's arguing that
• 1:50:09
  Speaker 1: IUDs are not only for birth control, but they're.
• 1:50:14
  Speaker 2: A freaking thing like that in your womb to make
• 1:50:17
  Speaker 2: things better in any conceivable capacity.
• 1:50:22
  Speaker 1: I don't know what that is, but it doesn't look
• 1:50:24
  Speaker 1: pleasant at all.
• 1:50:25
  Speaker 2: I've had one. It is not it is absolutely not.
• 1:50:33
  Speaker 2: I cannot what the hell is she on?
• 1:50:37
  Speaker 1: Well, she's trying to make the argument that the patriarchy
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 1: is trying to destroy women, so she has to like
• 1:50:44
  Speaker 1: everything follows from her assumptions. That's all. But anyway, your
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 1: guide to.
• 1:50:49
  Speaker 2: Birth, Actually I just want to I want to point vasectomy,
• 1:50:52
  Speaker 2: tubal ligation, long acting. You mean, end of freaking fertility? Okay, yeah,
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 2: let us go.
• 1:51:01
  Speaker 1: Let's keep what we're talking about.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah, these are the ones which are being targeted. Lots
• 1:51:06
  Speaker 6: of people are put on birth control for a variety
• 1:51:08
  Speaker 6: of reasons, from being a teenager onwards, from acne to
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 6: PCs to horminal issues and demetriosis PMDD and more. Birth
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 6: control in the form of an ied road or the
• 1:51:19
  Speaker 6: pill have been incredibly instrumental in allowing people to be
• 1:51:22
  Speaker 6: on to actually live their day to day lives more comfortably,
• 1:51:25
  Speaker 6: I would say more comfortably, and not actually comfortably, because.
• 1:51:29
  Speaker 2: With these women who are super firm, married to men
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: and freaking out about doing like just being that way.
• 1:51:42
  Speaker 1: Like it's an act, it's part of the performance.
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, I'm.
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 1: Just like me. She bakes and stuff.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 2: If anything, if anything, women like this have less to fear,
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 2: supposedly than women like me, and yet they're out here
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 2: fearing what I don't know, Like I don't fear stupid
• 1:52:03
  Speaker 2: things like the potential of the handmaiden's tail, And yet
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 2: these women do. And yet the honestly they probably willing
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 2: will we wear the stupid costume and trot themselves out
• 1:52:14
  Speaker 2: in public and they're probably perfectly happy staying at home
• 1:52:19
  Speaker 2: doing female jobs. You got it? I never get I
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 2: don't get this. Yeah, honestly, the only way this makes
• 1:52:28
  Speaker 2: sense is if this is, as Nature said, tools for
• 1:52:32
  Speaker 2: the management management of men. There's tools for the management
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 2: of men. That's it. This has absolutely no reality outside
• 1:52:39
  Speaker 2: of that. Like they just they just make mouth noises.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 2: They don't care if they're logical, rational, if that makes
• 1:52:45
  Speaker 2: sense historically, if they're supported, if the arguments are coherent.
• 1:52:50
  Speaker 2: They just make mouth noises and men go yep, I'll
• 1:52:52
  Speaker 2: do that, right on it, right on it, dear.
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 6: Okay, all right, if you know one of the lucky
• 1:53:01
  Speaker 6: people out there who doesn't suffer from painful periods and
• 1:53:04
  Speaker 6: all of the horrors that go along with it, how
• 1:53:07
  Speaker 6: does it feel to be God's favorite? I got on
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 6: the pill at the age of sixteen or seventeen years
• 1:53:11
  Speaker 6: old due to my inability to go to school because
• 1:53:14
  Speaker 6: I was in such excruciating levels of pain at struggling
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 6: with migraines all sorts. A couple of years later, Actually, my.
• 1:53:20
  Speaker 2: Oriegion says, wouldn't it just be easier not to have sex? Yes,
• 1:53:23
  Speaker 2: that's right. It's so critical that women get birth control
• 1:53:28
  Speaker 2: for sex that they hate that they constantly complain with
• 1:53:32
  Speaker 2: people hate right, with people, they hate sex. They constantly
• 1:53:35
  Speaker 2: complain about, Oh, it's so shitty, Well, then stop having it.
• 1:53:39
  Speaker 2: It's like it's like you go to the amusement park,
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 2: you demand people make me pay for your ticket, and
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 2: then you complain about every freaking ride in it. Well,
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 2: then don't go. Why do I have to pay for
• 1:53:53
  Speaker 2: you to be miserable? Like, solve everyone's problems? Stop having sex.
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 2: You don't like it, you say it's bad, you say
• 1:54:03
  Speaker 2: it's miserable. Well, why are you forcing people to pay
• 1:54:07
  Speaker 2: for your miserable experiences? Like there's we could just solve
• 1:54:12
  Speaker 2: everyone's problem. We could solve the taxpayer not wanting to
• 1:54:15
  Speaker 2: pay for you, and you could solve the fact that
• 1:54:18
  Speaker 2: you don't enjoy it anyway, Stop doing it, Okay, go
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 2: find something entertaining that actually entertains.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 6: You as well, Because health issue is so fun to
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 6: deal with it.
• 1:54:36
  Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta confirm this is isn't I What health
• 1:54:41
  Speaker 2: issues do I U d's fix address address? That's a
• 1:54:52
  Speaker 2: good one of reproduction, primarily used for consterception. Oh they do, okay,
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 2: but you address several non reproductive health issues.
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 1: Are they the only way to do that? Hormonal IUD
• 1:55:15
  Speaker 1: are is the only way to address.
• 1:55:18
  Speaker 2: Oh. Oh, so you put it in and it releases hormones.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 2: She had an IUD inserted to release hormones. You realize
• 1:55:27
  Speaker 2: that IUDs make hormonal IUDs can alleviate menstrual crabs by
• 1:55:33
  Speaker 2: thinning the uterine lining managed symptoms of So they're not
• 1:55:39
  Speaker 2: iud specifically, they're hormonal i u ds. Okay, all right,
• 1:55:45
  Speaker 2: that would have been nice to clarify. So it's not
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 2: actually the IUD that's doing it, it's the hormones. Yeah,
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 2: your period's on birth control. Oh, I hope you didn't
• 1:55:56
  Speaker 2: meet your partner while you were on birth control. My dear, ever,
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 2: go off it because you're not going to like what
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 2: you smell when you go off.
• 1:56:06
  Speaker 1: Let me just jump ahead to the next time code.
• 1:56:11
  Speaker 1: So she basically talks about the legalities of bodily autonomy
• 1:56:15
  Speaker 1: and then she used a bunch of TV show and
• 1:56:17
  Speaker 1: movie clips because those are her primary references. And then
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 1: she has a section where basically she's saying they're gonna
• 1:56:25
  Speaker 1: be rolling back rights. So because you know, that's that's
• 1:56:28
  Speaker 1: been that's been the narrative for well since the beginning. Basically,
• 1:56:33
  Speaker 1: any day now, ladies are gonna lose all their rights.
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 1: Any day now. Oh, I got a big super chow
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 1: big one from Dan fid Philippo for one hundred dollars.
• 1:56:43
  Speaker 1: Thank you, Dan. I don't have any soundboard stuff yet.
• 1:56:47
  Speaker 1: So and he says the question of abortion for women
• 1:56:50
  Speaker 1: is commonly mishandled. People, especially on the right, frame it
• 1:56:54
  Speaker 1: in terms of whether it's good or bad. When the
• 1:56:56
  Speaker 1: question should be do women deserve to have abortions? And
• 1:56:59
  Speaker 1: the answer is no, but for political capital purposes, we
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 1: shouldn't find it.
• 1:57:05
  Speaker 2: Uh, you're right, they don't. Yeah, because this is I
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 2: don't understand it, right, I mean, you've got a good point.
• 1:57:16
  Speaker 2: This is allowing women access to entertainment that makes them miserable, Like,
• 1:57:24
  Speaker 2: wouldn't it be better to just be like, yeah, don't,
• 1:57:27
  Speaker 2: just don't, just don't have sex. You constantly complain about
• 1:57:31
  Speaker 2: the results, you constantly complain about the activity. It apparently
• 1:57:34
  Speaker 2: makes you miserable and traumatizes you. So why are you
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 2: expecting people to pay for you to have access to it? Okay,
• 1:57:47
  Speaker 2: just let's just let's just let's end the farce. We
• 1:57:52
  Speaker 2: don't have to pay for your birth control or your abortion,
• 1:57:56
  Speaker 2: and you stop engaging in something that apparently makes you miserable.
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: When when men are no good at sex, you keep
• 1:58:04
  Speaker 2: saying constantly, but why do you seek them out to
• 1:58:07
  Speaker 2: the point where you make everybody else pay for the
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: consequences of your entertainment on yourself? It doesn't make sense
• 1:58:16
  Speaker 2: to me.
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, he wants a total abortion band with
• 1:58:24
  Speaker 5: no exceptions. He's supper bands that would not only criminalize
• 1:58:27
  Speaker 5: abortion but ban IVF, Trump and common forms of birth control, and.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 1: That you've uh, speaker Mike Johnson, it was a well, yeah, speaker,
• 1:58:37
  Speaker 1: Mike Johnson, Speaker of the House. Okay, So no, not Trump.
• 1:58:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, Well again again, we're talking about a form of
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: entertainment that women universe like seem they seem to be
• 1:58:50
  Speaker 2: disappointed with. So perhaps you could go with forms of
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 2: entertainment that won't disappoint you as much, such as learning philosophy, learning,
• 1:58:58
  Speaker 2: advance calculus, predicate, mathematics, logic, doing art, writing, things that
• 1:59:05
  Speaker 2: aren't pornographic, could do all kinds of other entertaining things. Ladies.
• 1:59:11
  Speaker 2: Then this thing that you apparently do not find entertaining,
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 2: you rather find it miserable and traumatic. We'll stop doing it.
• 1:59:21
  Speaker 2: Why is it so important that women get this form
• 1:59:24
  Speaker 2: of entertainment when they don't find it entertaining? Why that's
• 1:59:30
  Speaker 2: so bloody important?
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 4: Okay, okay, it's a contraception and birth control like really
• 1:59:40
  Speaker 4: strews up female brains. By the way, every single one
• 1:59:43
  Speaker 4: of you need to make sure that your loved ones
• 1:59:44
  Speaker 4: are not on birth control.
• 1:59:45
  Speaker 2: The right to contraception.
• 1:59:47
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but okay, going back to this, this is Charlie Kirk,
• 1:59:50
  Speaker 1: by the way, which I think she's pretty I'm just
• 1:59:53
  Speaker 1: gonna say I think this is true. My gut tells
• 1:59:57
  Speaker 1: me she is sharing these clips of Charlie Kirk to
• 2:00:01
  Speaker 1: justify the murder of Charlie Kirk because if she can
• 2:00:05
  Speaker 1: demonstrate to her audience that he had the wrong kinds
• 2:00:08
  Speaker 1: of opinions, then their sympathy for his being murdered, and
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  Speaker 1: like his children not having their father and his wife
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  Speaker 1: not having her husband is justified because he said a
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  Speaker 1: true thing about birth control. That's a true thing because
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  Speaker 1: we have had Aidan Paladin on our show, and she
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  Speaker 1: spoke at IC twenty nineteen and she made a video
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  Speaker 1: on her own where she goes into the problems of
• 2:00:33
  Speaker 1: hormonal birth control, and these arguments were picked up by
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  Speaker 1: other people like Sidney Watson, who also has a massive audience,
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  Speaker 1: and she did a whole video on hormonal birth control
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  Speaker 1: as well. Charlie Kirk is just saying what we have
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  Speaker 1: been saying, and Berlie Claire is trying to use this again.
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  Speaker 1: If it is the case that hormonal birth control is
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  Speaker 1: screwing with women, and we know it is because we
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  Speaker 1: have seen the data, you can Karen has said this
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  Speaker 1: is herself. She's echoed this. When I started dating Lindsay
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  Speaker 1: and I asked her if she was on the pill,
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  Speaker 1: she said, and this was in twenty fifteen when I
• 2:01:08
  Speaker 1: met her, she said, I don't mess with my hormones,
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  Speaker 1: so she knew that it wasn't good for you. And
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  Speaker 1: he is just saying that like that is just something
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  Speaker 1: that women should consider. But because Brier Declaire and feminists
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  Speaker 1: think it's so important that women feel as though they
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  Speaker 1: can just like you know, not get pregnant. They just
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  Speaker 1: will fuck with their own bodies to do it. Then
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  Speaker 1: they'll just have to permit that. And the funny thing
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  Speaker 1: is is that they could in fact, it wasn't birth control.
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  Speaker 1: Was it invented by a man?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Well yes, yeah, so they could literally use this as
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  Speaker 1: another thing to blame men for. But they want birth
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  Speaker 1: control bad enough that they're not willing to stop.
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  Speaker 2: I don't want this is what I don't understand, Like,
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  Speaker 2: at best, this seems to be a form of entertainment
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  Speaker 2: that makes it isn't you don't find entertaining? Why are
• 2:02:00
  Speaker 2: you so obsessed with it?
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  Speaker 4: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Why are you so obsessed with it? And yes, birth
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  Speaker 2: control has serious implications for mood disorders, and it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: like it does have this side effect, this drawback, unless
• 2:02:17
  Speaker 2: you are somebody who experiences extremely painful periods. But that
• 2:02:20
  Speaker 2: is a medical condition, right, Okay, But I just wanted
• 2:02:24
  Speaker 2: to point out the tielder said it's time we must
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  Speaker 2: repeal women. Yes, I agree, this is how we do it. Okay,
• 2:02:32
  Speaker 2: we get rid of the legal category woman. Everybody is
• 2:02:36
  Speaker 2: a man now, right, Everybody has the protections of a man. Okay,
• 2:02:42
  Speaker 2: that means, uh, if men have this protection, for example,
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  Speaker 2: that they have the right to have their bathrooms based
• 2:02:47
  Speaker 2: on their genital configuration, men who are biological women will
• 2:02:52
  Speaker 2: still have that protection, so there'll still be like biological
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  Speaker 2: male and biological female bathrooms and shit like that. And also,
• 2:03:00
  Speaker 2: so handicap men have their own Olympics, so women will
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  Speaker 2: be classified as a form of handicap man and they
• 2:03:06
  Speaker 2: can have their own sports. So it's all good, except
• 2:03:09
  Speaker 2: that women and men have exactly the same rights, exactly
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  Speaker 2: the same rights to birth control, exactly the same rights
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  Speaker 2: to abortion, exactly the same rights to abandonment, exactly the
• 2:03:20
  Speaker 2: same rights to work. Everything is exactly the fucking same.
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  Speaker 2: Let us repeal women. Let's get rid of them legal
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  Speaker 2: category women, entirely remove it from existence. So but we
• 2:03:33
  Speaker 2: can still have medical categories of male and female, which
• 2:03:36
  Speaker 2: means that women can or females can still have differential
• 2:03:40
  Speaker 2: treatment based on the medical category that they're in, just
• 2:03:43
  Speaker 2: like you know, if you're if you're a medical a
• 2:03:45
  Speaker 2: man in a particular medical category, you're gonna have different
• 2:03:48
  Speaker 2: treatment and whatever. So we can still keep those medical differences,
• 2:03:52
  Speaker 2: but get rid of the social, political, and legal ones entirely.
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  Speaker 2: Just have one category of person, which is man. There
• 2:04:01
  Speaker 2: you go like mankind, mankind. That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I unfortunately I have to go, oh okay, we
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  Speaker 1: have to do this. We can do the rest of
• 2:04:13
  Speaker 1: this later, but yeah, I have to go pick up Lindsay.
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  Speaker 2: So I guess we'll have to finish this show off
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  Speaker 1: Did it just uh after I get back and you.
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  Speaker 2: Just cannot do it the previous way, like it won't
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