Latest / Legacy Living with Dr. Gloria Burgess / A Servant Leader's Journey | Episode #459
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- 0:21Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to today's show, Legacy Living, Make Your
- 0:27Speaker 1: Life Count. I'm your host, Doctor Gloria. Gloria Burgess, international
- 0:34Speaker 1: leadership expert and trusted advisor. Welcome to Legacy Living, Make
- 0:42Speaker 1: your Life Count. I'm so delighted that you joined me today.
- 0:48Speaker 1: I want to give a big thank you and shout
- 0:51Speaker 1: out to all of you listening around the world. I'm
- 0:54Speaker 1: delighted and so grateful that you tuned in today. I
- 0:59Speaker 1: hope you're enjoying a fabulous day and that you're having
- 1:03Speaker 1: a fantastic week, because you know what, in the grand
- 1:07Speaker 1: song of the universe, life is very very short. It's short,
- 1:13Speaker 1: sweet and very precious. So I hope you're making a
- 1:17Speaker 1: difference in your own life because when you do, you
- 1:21Speaker 1: also make a difference in someone else's life. Now, a
- 1:25Speaker 1: lot of folks want to make their life count for
- 1:29Speaker 1: something right, and they ask me, doctor Gloria, how do
- 1:33Speaker 1: you do that. Well, it's really very simple, very simple.
- 1:39Speaker 1: You make your life count day by day, step by step,
- 1:44Speaker 1: moment by moment, every single day. Three sixty five twenty
- 1:49Speaker 1: four to seven. That's what Legacy Living, Make your Life
- 1:53Speaker 1: Count is all about. You can learn more about my
- 1:57Speaker 1: work and legacy living. Make your life caut out by
- 2:01Speaker 1: visiting the Gloria Burgess website. And as I've mentioned before,
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- 2:38Speaker 1: Dr Gloria Burgess, pH d. Forward slash Today, I want
- 2:46Speaker 1: to talk with you about leadership. As you know if
- 2:51Speaker 1: you're a regular listener, this is a topic that is
- 2:54Speaker 1: very close to my heart. Today, we're going to focus
- 2:59Speaker 1: on a lit leadership journey. Okay, one person's leadership journey
- 3:04Speaker 1: and how she orchestrates that incredible life changing leadership journey
- 3:10Speaker 1: for others. Today, I have a very special guest joining
- 3:14Speaker 1: me and her name is Danielle Harvey Stenson. Now, Danielle
- 3:19Speaker 1: was my guest last week, so if you missed that episode,
- 3:23Speaker 1: be sure to listen to it. Last week we talked
- 3:27Speaker 1: about work life balance. Danielle shared a little bit about
- 3:32Speaker 1: her work and her amazing journey to the work that
- 3:35Speaker 1: she does now at the University of Southern California in
- 3:39Speaker 1: her role as Assistant vice President for Alumni Relations. Along
- 3:44Speaker 1: the way, she shares many many pearls of wisdom about
- 3:48Speaker 1: how she thinks about and how to actually achieve work
- 3:53Speaker 1: life balance. Now that's something we can all use a
- 3:57Speaker 1: lot more of, right, So who is Danielle Harvey Stenson?
- 4:04Speaker 1: As I just mentioned, she's AVP of Alumni Relations at
- 4:07Speaker 1: USC and in addition to pursuing her career, she wears
- 4:11Speaker 1: many other hats. Danielle is a mom to six children
- 4:17Speaker 1: right six. She's also passionate, and she's also a lifelong learner.
- 4:23Speaker 1: She describes herself as someone who thrives on creativity. To me,
- 4:29Speaker 1: she's also a very valued and trusted friend, and I'm
- 4:33Speaker 1: blessed to count her as one of my amazing mentors.
- 4:38Speaker 1: If I had to describe Danielle in just a word,
- 4:42Speaker 1: I would say encourager. Yes, encourager. If I had two words,
- 4:49Speaker 1: I would also say inspiring. Danielle is a leader who
- 4:55Speaker 1: thinks outside of the box and is one of the
- 4:59Speaker 1: most humble human beings, one of the most humble leaders
- 5:03Speaker 1: that I know. She makes a difference in her own
- 5:06Speaker 1: life and in the lives of so many others throughout
- 5:10Speaker 1: the world in her work at USC. Now. I met
- 5:15Speaker 1: Danielle almost ten years ago. She was searching for a
- 5:19Speaker 1: keynote speaker for one of the alumni conferences at USC.
- 5:23Speaker 1: In fact, it was the USC Women's Alumni Conference, and
- 5:27Speaker 1: at that time I was in the process of expanding
- 5:30Speaker 1: my reach because I wanted to impact more women leaders. Well,
- 5:37Speaker 1: when I met Danielle, I just have to tell you,
- 5:41Speaker 1: when I heard her talk about her work at USC,
- 5:44Speaker 1: she was absolutely passionate talk about love. Her enthusiasm was
- 5:51Speaker 1: just contagious, and I thought, Yes, I'd love to work
- 5:55Speaker 1: with this young woman who was truly on a mission
- 5:58Speaker 1: and on fire about her work. Now, I'm also a
- 6:03Speaker 1: USC alum, which made it a perfect match. Right now,
- 6:07Speaker 1: Danielle has worked at USC for sixteen maybe seventeen years
- 6:12Speaker 1: in alumni relations. She has a bachelor's degree in education
- 6:17Speaker 1: from USC's Rossier School of Education and an executive Master's
- 6:22Speaker 1: degree in leadership from the Sole Price School of Public
- 6:26Speaker 1: Policy at USC as AVP. For alumni relations. Danielle and
- 6:33Speaker 1: her team are responsible two and four about half a
- 6:38Speaker 1: million people. That's a lot of folks. She and her
- 6:42Speaker 1: team provide an incredible array of programs and services and
- 6:48Speaker 1: events throughout the year, year after year. Now, as I
- 6:55Speaker 1: just mentioned just a few moments ago, Danielle is positive,
- 7:00Speaker 1: committed to making an impact on the world, and she
- 7:04Speaker 1: has a particular interest in making an impact to empower
- 7:09Speaker 1: women leaders to transform their world. Danielle says that, among others,
- 7:16Speaker 1: her mom had an enormous impact on her life and
- 7:21Speaker 1: has shaped her vision for her work. During my conversation
- 7:27Speaker 1: with Danielle, you will hear more about her story. You'll
- 7:32Speaker 1: also hear about some of the people and moments that
- 7:35Speaker 1: have shaped and formed her as a person of influence,
- 7:39Speaker 1: People in moments who have shaped and formed her as
- 7:42Speaker 1: a leader, all with a particular focus on serving other
- 7:47Speaker 1: leaders in many ways. In her outlook on life and
- 7:53Speaker 1: in her work, Danielle pulls together the many threads of
- 7:57Speaker 1: what my own life and work are all about. You've
- 8:02Speaker 1: heard me talk about these threads and themes on this show, right.
- 8:08Speaker 1: These are the themes of gratitude, authenticity, vulnerability, integrity, generosity, strength, passion, presence, hope, creativity,
- 8:21Speaker 1: and possibility. We are truly blessed to have Danielle as
- 8:28Speaker 1: one of our honored guests on this podcast. Can I
- 8:32Speaker 1: just tell you something. Danielle and I had a fabulous conversation.
- 8:37Speaker 1: I'm so excited to have this amazing leader with us today.
- 8:41Speaker 1: This is going to be a marvelous episode. I don't
- 8:45Speaker 1: want you to miss a single word of it. So
- 8:48Speaker 1: put on your walking shoes, grab your earbuds, or if
- 8:51Speaker 1: you want to stay home, relax in your favorite chair,
- 8:54Speaker 1: grab yourself a cup of coffee or tea or a
- 8:57Speaker 1: nice cool glass of water. You are going to have
- 9:01Speaker 1: a great time, and you're also I want to take
- 9:04Speaker 1: notes today, so all right, get ready. Now, before I
- 9:09Speaker 1: jump into today's episode, I want to take just a
- 9:13Speaker 1: moment to welcome you. If you're just joining us, I'm
- 9:16Speaker 1: your host, Doctor Gloria, and this is Legacy Living, Make
- 9:21Speaker 1: your life count. I'd like to extend a very special
- 9:25Speaker 1: welcome to those of you joining this podcast, or if
- 9:29Speaker 1: you're joining Talk Network Radio for the very first time,
- 9:33Speaker 1: let me tell you something. You are in for a
- 9:36Speaker 1: real treat. I'm excited to have you listening in today,
- 9:39Speaker 1: and I'm deeply honored that you've allowed me to be
- 9:43Speaker 1: part of your day so you can be inspired by
- 9:46Speaker 1: ideas and resources to make your life count. Today's program
- 9:54Speaker 1: is all about one leader's journey and how she orchestrates
- 9:59Speaker 1: journeys for other leaders.
- 10:04Speaker 2: Danielle, I would love to hear about the scope of
- 10:07Speaker 2: the networks that you support across USC. I know you're
- 10:12Speaker 2: responsible for various programs and services and events for a
- 10:16Speaker 2: huge population. And I'd also like to focus in on
- 10:19Speaker 2: the Women's Conference because that's how you and I first connected.
- 10:23Speaker 2: And I'd also like to give you some time to
- 10:25Speaker 2: maybe cheer about that conference and may be promoted a
- 10:28Speaker 2: little bit as well through the program.
- 10:30Speaker 3: Okay, awesome, Well, thank you. I can speak about the
- 10:34Speaker 3: Women's Conference ad nauseum NonStop. If this word teles on you,
- 10:40Speaker 3: you wouldn't need to book any other speakers. So I'll
- 10:45Speaker 3: start with the different networks that we have and then
- 10:48Speaker 3: go into.
- 10:49Speaker 4: The Women's Conference.
- 10:50Speaker 3: So just to refresh, I guess my answer from before
- 10:55Speaker 3: about some of the different programs that I'm on and
- 10:58Speaker 3: our approach to alumni engagement here at USC. It's very
- 11:03Speaker 3: important for.
- 11:04Speaker 4: The university to maintain that connection.
- 11:06Speaker 3: So we have things that we call the Trojan family,
- 11:10Speaker 3: and that's really the alumni, the parents, the students, the
- 11:14Speaker 3: whole gamut of anyone connected to or tied to USC.
- 11:18Speaker 3: And specifically, we also say around here.
- 11:21Speaker 4: You may be a student for four or five.
- 11:24Speaker 3: Plus years, but you're in a lum and a Trojan
- 11:27Speaker 3: for life. And at USC, I will say that is
- 11:31Speaker 3: one of the things that convinced me to come and
- 11:34Speaker 3: be a student here at USC. And I was deciding
- 11:37Speaker 3: between other universities, but when I got to see that
- 11:40Speaker 3: Trojan family and that Trojan connection.
- 11:42Speaker 4: Up close and personal, I was blown.
- 11:45Speaker 3: Away and said, yes, sign me up right now. So now,
- 11:50Speaker 3: as the person responsible for maintaining that connection and hoping
- 11:55Speaker 3: to cultivate that connection, we're approaching engage in an alumni
- 12:02Speaker 3: centric approach. So that means, as I shared a little
- 12:07Speaker 3: bit earlier, we're trying to find ways that alumni will
- 12:13Speaker 3: feel connected to the university in a way that is
- 12:16Speaker 3: personal and meaningful for them. So for some people, if
- 12:20Speaker 3: they are very connected through their industry or their profession
- 12:25Speaker 3: that they've chosen, we have built networks around that and
- 12:28Speaker 3: right now we have four of those entertainment, real estate, education,
- 12:35Speaker 3: and entrepreneurship. And the wonderful thing about the networks is
- 12:40Speaker 3: it doesn't matter what your major.
- 12:42Speaker 4: Was when you were a student.
- 12:44Speaker 3: So you could have majored in law as a graduate student,
- 12:48Speaker 3: you could have majored in political science as.
- 12:51Speaker 4: An undergraduate student. You could have.
- 12:52Speaker 3: Majored in something like writing or directing in the School
- 12:57Speaker 3: of Cinematic Arts. But now whatever profession you're in, let's
- 13:02Speaker 3: say you're in real estate. So you know, we hear
- 13:04Speaker 3: all the time, I'm working in a field that I
- 13:06Speaker 3: didn't major in, or I'm majored in one thing now
- 13:09Speaker 3: I'm working in another. I'm one of those people I
- 13:11Speaker 3: majored in education, but now I'm working in alumni relations,
- 13:14Speaker 3: which is essentially public relations or communications, et cetera. So
- 13:20Speaker 3: these networks are allowing alumni to break down those barriers
- 13:25Speaker 3: or those silos that we have because perhaps, let's say
- 13:29Speaker 3: you went through the Marshall School of Business or the
- 13:32Speaker 3: Annenberg School of Communication, whatever you're where you started. It's well,
- 13:37Speaker 3: I should say it this way. It doesn't matter where
- 13:39Speaker 3: you started. It just matters what you care about and
- 13:42Speaker 3: what you're doing right now. So with those networks, we've
- 13:46Speaker 3: had them, i want to say, for about three or
- 13:48Speaker 3: four years now, and each one has started at different degrees.
- 13:52Speaker 3: But we're starting to see alumni who graduated ten, twenty, thirty,
- 13:57Speaker 3: forty years ago never had a connect to the university before,
- 14:01Speaker 3: except you know, they'll get together watch a game with
- 14:03Speaker 3: some of their classmates. But now they're coming back and going, oh,
- 14:07Speaker 3: this is of interest to me, This is a value
- 14:09Speaker 3: to me. The speakers that we bring together, or just
- 14:12Speaker 3: the opportunity to network with other Trojans in that field
- 14:16Speaker 3: has been very valuable to them. Very similarly, we're also
- 14:21Speaker 3: looking at that lens, not just with professions, but also
- 14:25Speaker 3: what are some topics or our programs that are or
- 14:30Speaker 3: shared interests is how we talk about them that are
- 14:33Speaker 3: of interest and that includes our age based program. So
- 14:38Speaker 3: let's say you're under the age of thirty five and you.
- 14:41Speaker 4: Need career advice. Well, the career advice we.
- 14:44Speaker 3: Give an alum who's under the age of thirty five
- 14:47Speaker 3: versus the career advice we would give to an alum
- 14:49Speaker 3: who's over the age of fifty is very different. So
- 14:53Speaker 3: we also look at where are you in your lifespan
- 14:57Speaker 3: and how can we curtel or make our programming specific
- 15:01Speaker 3: to those needs.
- 15:03Speaker 4: It's been very important.
- 15:05Speaker 3: And now to segue over to the women's conference, we
- 15:09Speaker 3: have been for many, many years looking at alumni identity.
- 15:15Speaker 3: So we have our traditional Asian Pacific Alumni, Black Alumni,
- 15:19Speaker 3: Latino Alumni Association, and our Lambda LGBT alumni associations that
- 15:25Speaker 3: have boards, are full blown alumni associations. They have advisory councils,
- 15:31Speaker 3: they do galas, they do scholarship fundraising, and then they
- 15:34Speaker 3: also award scholarships from those organizations. Similarly, we have women's
- 15:39Speaker 3: groups that fall sort of under this category as well
- 15:42Speaker 3: as our Alumni Veterans Network that falls under this category.
- 15:47Speaker 3: And with our women there has been so much talk
- 15:53Speaker 3: and so much emphasis on feminine based our feminine quality leaderships,
- 16:00Speaker 3: also needs and interests of women. How can we speak
- 16:05Speaker 3: directly to them? And this has been very important for
- 16:09Speaker 3: the university and the Alumni association because.
- 16:12Speaker 4: Just within the last i want to say, ten to
- 16:14Speaker 4: fifteen years, what used to be a very.
- 16:18Speaker 3: Small percentage of our student body has now become a small.
- 16:22Speaker 4: Majority of our student body.
- 16:23Speaker 3: So our women's student body is just over fifty one
- 16:26Speaker 3: percent and our alumni base is mirroring that now as well.
- 16:32Speaker 3: So that's really exciting and also a reason for us
- 16:35Speaker 3: to harbout our programs and really speak to this audience
- 16:40Speaker 3: in a way that hasn't been done in a number
- 16:42Speaker 3: of years.
- 16:44Speaker 2: Well, thank you. That demographic it sounds like I mean,
- 16:47Speaker 2: obviously you're in this business, but my sense from all
- 16:52Speaker 2: the reading that I do is that demographic it's just
- 16:55Speaker 2: going to keep trending upwards.
- 16:57Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 16:58Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, So I know that you're planning your conference
- 17:02Speaker 2: for next March, and as I mentioned earlier, you and
- 17:06Speaker 2: I actually met through the Women's conference that you had
- 17:09Speaker 2: invited me to speak there about seven years ago. And
- 17:13Speaker 2: I'm just wondering if you can tell us why you
- 17:16Speaker 2: think that there is such a power in these programs, Danielle,
- 17:21Speaker 2: and such a hunger for them as well.
- 17:24Speaker 3: Yes, you know, that is a great question, and I
- 17:29Speaker 3: wish I had a short answer for it. I think
- 17:34Speaker 3: that as women, there is so much power that gets created.
- 17:42Speaker 3: And again, I'm a creative person, so I'm all about
- 17:45Speaker 3: this when we're all in a room together. And Gloria,
- 17:50Speaker 3: if I could, and you would have to correct me
- 17:53Speaker 3: on this quote, but one of the first sentences that
- 17:57Speaker 3: you ever shared with us in this setting at the
- 18:01Speaker 3: Women's conference was that twenty first century women are one
- 18:06Speaker 3: of the most powerful forces on the planet. And I'm
- 18:10Speaker 3: paraphrase that's it, correct me if I didn't get that
- 18:14Speaker 3: quite right, But those words and that sentiment really stuck
- 18:19Speaker 3: with me because as we are looking at movement, as
- 18:23Speaker 3: we're looking at the shift that's happening, you know, definitely
- 18:27Speaker 3: within our country, within politics, within leadership, within business, people
- 18:33Speaker 3: are paying attention to what is that powerful source? Are
- 18:37Speaker 3: we sourcing it correctly? Are we channeling it to our
- 18:42Speaker 3: fullest potential and to our fullest benefit? And then are
- 18:46Speaker 3: we paying attention to it in a way that allows
- 18:49Speaker 3: us all to become better? Again, I think it just
- 18:53Speaker 3: goes to being the human race. Are we maximizing our
- 18:57Speaker 3: fullest potential? And I think the answers and people believe,
- 19:02Speaker 3: not just me, the answer is within you know, that
- 19:06Speaker 3: feminine quality force all of that. So I personally can't
- 19:15Speaker 3: possibly put that, I think into words, but just my
- 19:18Speaker 3: own feeling is there is something there that we all
- 19:22Speaker 3: need to pay attention to.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think you actually did a beautiful job
- 19:27Speaker 2: of summing that up. I mean, we could we could
- 19:29Speaker 2: probably spend the whole program just talking about that one question, Danielle,
- 19:33Speaker 2: so thank you for your summary. You know, I was
- 19:36Speaker 2: in Nigeria last fall and I had a wonderful opportunity
- 19:43Speaker 2: to spend about maybe half a day with a girl
- 19:47Speaker 2: who has organized an international women's conference, and she was
- 19:52Speaker 2: on the cusp of celebrating her twentieth year. And one
- 19:57Speaker 2: of the things that she talked about, I mean, she
- 19:59Speaker 2: was kind of you know, we talked about it. She
- 20:01Speaker 2: was also brainstorming about like what would be the best
- 20:04Speaker 2: theme or topic or way to kind of just galvanize
- 20:07Speaker 2: and pull things together for this twentieth anniversary. And you know,
- 20:11Speaker 2: one of the things she talked about was what you
- 20:13Speaker 2: pointed out, and that's that feminine quality, Okay, the feminine
- 20:17Speaker 2: quality of leadership. And there's something that we have as
- 20:21Speaker 2: women that we we can't afford to give up. I know,
- 20:26Speaker 2: over the years that I've been in the business sector,
- 20:28Speaker 2: in particular in education as well, a lot of women
- 20:32Speaker 2: they want to they want to go along, to get along,
- 20:35Speaker 2: and they want to give up some of the qualities
- 20:37Speaker 2: that they have, particularly you know, so that they fit
- 20:39Speaker 2: in with the men. And I'm going like, no, No,
- 20:43Speaker 2: there is such diversity that we can offer when we
- 20:49Speaker 2: put ourselves at the table, bringing those feminine qualities, those
- 20:52Speaker 2: feminine attributes that will be missing if we don't bring
- 20:56Speaker 2: them to the table. And so, Daniel, I wonder if
- 21:00Speaker 2: you can talk to us a little bit about how
- 21:02Speaker 2: do you come up with with your amazing themes for
- 21:07Speaker 2: the various conferences. I mean to me, they kind of
- 21:09Speaker 2: build over the arc of the ten years that you've
- 21:13Speaker 2: had your signature impress on them. And so I'm just
- 21:16Speaker 2: wondering if you could talk with us a little bit
- 21:18Speaker 2: about So how do you do that?
- 21:20Speaker 3: Thank you? That is a question that again I could,
- 21:24Speaker 3: I could speak endlessly about it, but I will say
- 21:29Speaker 3: that and this might be a little too spiritual for
- 21:34Speaker 3: some people, So forgive me. If you are a person
- 21:38Speaker 3: who is in your head, I'm going to go into
- 21:40Speaker 3: my heart for a second.
- 21:41Speaker 2: Oh go there, please.
- 21:44Speaker 3: So this conference is very near and dear to my
- 21:48Speaker 3: heart in a way that for me, if I did
- 21:52Speaker 3: not get paid to do it, to produce it year
- 21:55Speaker 3: over year, I.
- 21:56Speaker 4: Would still do it.
- 21:58Speaker 3: This is what I call a passion project, and so
- 22:02Speaker 3: I never approach it. To this point, I have not
- 22:06Speaker 3: approached it as just something else on my to do list.
- 22:10Speaker 3: So when I am preparing forward, when I am thinking
- 22:13Speaker 3: about what are we going to talk about at the conference,
- 22:17Speaker 3: what's the conversation at the conference this year? I am
- 22:21Speaker 3: doing that from listening, from having conversations with people that
- 22:27Speaker 3: I trust, like you, Gloria, We've done that number of years,
- 22:32Speaker 3: and then also just paying attention to what women that
- 22:37Speaker 3: I work with, I admire, women that I myself don't.
- 22:42Speaker 4: Understand but I want to know more about.
- 22:46Speaker 3: And when I tune in to all of those things,
- 22:50Speaker 3: then the conference reveals itself to me. So I know,
- 22:56Speaker 3: I said I'm creative, but this is not something that
- 22:59Speaker 3: I feel that I can really take credit for creating.
- 23:03Speaker 3: I think it's something that just happens when I allow
- 23:07Speaker 3: it to flow in the way that it is going
- 23:10Speaker 3: to flow. So I always say, I just get out
- 23:12Speaker 3: of the way and let the you know, and let
- 23:15Speaker 3: the good work happen.
- 23:17Speaker 4: And I think, you know, other.
- 23:19Speaker 3: Creative solds would actually describe their process very similar, you know,
- 23:23Speaker 3: songwriters or poetry. I think this is something that is
- 23:28Speaker 3: that can be described in a similar way. It happens,
- 23:33Speaker 3: and it's just my job to be in tune and
- 23:37Speaker 3: to listen for and then to bring all those wonderful
- 23:42Speaker 3: things together.
- 23:44Speaker 2: Yes, I totally get what you're saying. I totally get it,
- 23:48Speaker 2: and yeah, thank you. And you have to be open
- 23:52Speaker 2: and have that sense that you talked about earlier, Daniel,
- 23:55Speaker 2: that sense of curiosity and discovery and being an open
- 23:59Speaker 2: vessel so that the ideas can flow in and come
- 24:02Speaker 2: through you.
- 24:04Speaker 4: Absolutely.
- 24:05Speaker 3: I you know it's saying, I will have conversations with
- 24:08Speaker 3: with with anyone because I never know where the inspiration
- 24:13Speaker 3: is going to come from. In fact, I was having
- 24:15Speaker 3: a conversation with a fundraiser.
- 24:17Speaker 4: Of all people, right, we.
- 24:19Speaker 3: Typically don't see them as being inspirational, but I was
- 24:22Speaker 3: inspired by something a fundraiser said in a conversation that
- 24:27Speaker 3: we were just kind of spinning ideas around. Or she
- 24:30Speaker 3: actually called me and said, hey, I want to share
- 24:32Speaker 3: a few things with you.
- 24:33Speaker 4: Do you have time? And I said absolutely, I will
- 24:35Speaker 4: make time.
- 24:36Speaker 3: And she was talking and I was listening, and I
- 24:41Speaker 3: let me be honest, sometimes I have to tell myself
- 24:44Speaker 3: to put aside my judgment.
- 24:47Speaker 4: Right, So when you're.
- 24:48Speaker 3: Listening, listening is a very it has to be active,
- 24:52Speaker 3: and sometimes what we end up doing is waiting for
- 24:55Speaker 3: our turn to respond, right, waiting for you know, now
- 24:59Speaker 3: you're going to say something.
- 24:59Speaker 4: I'm to say something. So I have.
- 25:02Speaker 3: To sometimes tell myself to shut off and listen and
- 25:07Speaker 3: just to your point, be open and receive the information
- 25:12Speaker 3: without judging. That is a very tough thing to do,
- 25:15Speaker 3: but as long as we practice it, it's something that
- 25:19Speaker 3: we can get better at. And it's even something going
- 25:22Speaker 3: back to just working with my staff, it's something that
- 25:24Speaker 3: I've had to even.
- 25:25Speaker 4: Do with my staff people that I'm supervising.
- 25:28Speaker 3: I have to receive their information, take in their information,
- 25:32Speaker 3: and reserve judgment, put.
- 25:34Speaker 4: It all to the side, and listen to what they're
- 25:36Speaker 4: really saying.
- 25:38Speaker 3: And again, there are days when I am worse at
- 25:41Speaker 3: it than I should be, and better at it than
- 25:44Speaker 3: that I'm surprised by. So in this particular case, going
- 25:48Speaker 3: back to the women's conference, it is important to be inquisitive,
- 25:53Speaker 3: to be open, and to receive the information until we're
- 25:58Speaker 3: ready to pull it all together and then come out
- 26:01Speaker 3: with a plan.
- 26:02Speaker 2: Yes, yes I can. I don't know what your office
- 26:06Speaker 2: looks like, but I imagine it as a studio, you know,
- 26:09Speaker 2: kind of like a little artist's attilier where you have
- 26:13Speaker 2: these ideas, it's kind of flowing and going and going
- 26:16Speaker 2: through you all the time. It seems like, yeah, I
- 26:19Speaker 2: wish it.
- 26:19Speaker 4: Was like that.
- 26:20Speaker 3: Now you're giving me inspirations, I think I may actually
- 26:23Speaker 3: move some things around so I can create that cool.
- 26:28Speaker 2: Well, I heard you talk about the conference and you
- 26:30Speaker 2: use these words passion project, and I know you just
- 26:34Speaker 2: spoke to that, Danielle, But is there anything more that
- 26:37Speaker 2: you want to say about that in terms of why
- 26:39Speaker 2: this is your why this is your passion project?
- 26:43Speaker 4: Absolutely, I'm again in full disclosure.
- 26:46Speaker 3: I was raised by a single mom who was also
- 26:51Speaker 3: a creative soul, who worked so so hard, sometimes for
- 26:58Speaker 3: not a whole lot, and that really affected me as
- 27:02Speaker 3: a as a young person watching that, and I always
- 27:09Speaker 3: wanted things.
- 27:10Speaker 4: To not be so hard for my mother.
- 27:13Speaker 3: And so when I work on the women's conference, I'm
- 27:18Speaker 3: usually thinking about what are those things that are going
- 27:21Speaker 3: to make life not so hard for the women who
- 27:28Speaker 3: are out here just trying to make a way, you know,
- 27:30Speaker 3: be it, you know, and not everyone's life is hard.
- 27:32Speaker 4: I get that. So it's not always about.
- 27:34Speaker 3: The struggle, but sometimes it is just about bringing women
- 27:38Speaker 3: together so they can say, oh, are you also going through.
- 27:42Speaker 4: That, well, I am going through that.
- 27:44Speaker 2: You know.
- 27:45Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just an AHA moment.
- 27:47Speaker 3: Sometimes this is just a you know, a feel good moment.
- 27:50Speaker 3: And there are women who come in the great day
- 27:53Speaker 3: to dress up and see their friends and life is
- 27:55Speaker 3: great for them and great. I'm glad they come and
- 27:58Speaker 3: I'm glad they have a good time. There are women
- 28:00Speaker 3: who are coming to this conference and looking for tools,
- 28:04Speaker 3: tools to land their next job, tools to balance their
- 28:09Speaker 3: financial matters and to manage and lead their financial matter
- 28:14Speaker 3: so they can have better lives, easier lives, whatever is.
- 28:19Speaker 4: Of interest to them.
- 28:20Speaker 3: So I think again to answer your question, Gloria, this
- 28:25Speaker 3: is such a passion project for me because as women,
- 28:31Speaker 3: we should be empowering one another, and we should be
- 28:37Speaker 3: helping each other to find answers. Sometimes it's just where
- 28:42Speaker 3: do I go for this? There are women who are
- 28:45Speaker 3: trying to answer questions, and I hope that at this
- 28:48Speaker 3: conference those questions can can be answered.
- 28:52Speaker 4: I don't know if I answered you of answer your questions?
- 28:55Speaker 4: Did I answer your question?
- 28:57Speaker 2: That's a great answer, as you were as you were talking,
- 28:59Speaker 2: I was here, thank you. I'm a usc alum too,
- 29:03Speaker 2: and I remember you know, I got two degrees there, Danielle,
- 29:07Speaker 2: and I remember that USC attracts people from all walks
- 29:11Speaker 2: of life. There's some people who are very well off
- 29:14Speaker 2: in terms of financial means, and there's some people who
- 29:17Speaker 2: are just struggling, you know, and they're just barely making it.
- 29:20Speaker 2: There are a lot of first generation students there, and
- 29:23Speaker 2: I was just sitting here smiling just because your motivation
- 29:28Speaker 2: for what you do and having your mom as the inspiration,
- 29:33Speaker 2: I think reaches so many women across that spectrum of
- 29:37Speaker 2: life circumstances, and it touches their hearts, it touches them
- 29:41Speaker 2: where they need to be. I think you meet people
- 29:43Speaker 2: where they where they are. And I was just sitting
- 29:46Speaker 2: here just this glowing because I'm so glad that you're
- 29:49Speaker 2: in this very influential position at USC and can impact
- 29:55Speaker 2: the lives of so many I'm going to say women
- 29:58Speaker 2: in particular for this conference, but also just the lums
- 30:01Speaker 2: in general, men and women across the board.
- 30:04Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you, thank you.
- 30:07Speaker 2: I know we're getting close to the hour, and I
- 30:09Speaker 2: know you're a very busy a woman, so I just
- 30:13Speaker 2: want to be respectful of your time. Danielle, is there
- 30:16Speaker 2: anything that you want to tell us? About your tenth
- 30:19Speaker 2: annual conference, your vision for it, or are there other
- 30:23Speaker 2: things that you wish we would have talked about that
- 30:25Speaker 2: you haven't.
- 30:26Speaker 4: Gotten a chance to address yet. Thank you, Gloria.
- 30:30Speaker 3: The opportunity to talk with you again today has just
- 30:33Speaker 3: been so surreal for me because I still am looking
- 30:39Speaker 3: up to so many people that I admire, So as
- 30:41Speaker 3: I shared with you, I can't imagine anyone who would say, Hey, Danielle,
- 30:47Speaker 3: we want to hear from you. So I thank you
- 30:49Speaker 3: for this opportunity. But as we wrap up, I think
- 30:53Speaker 3: the biggest thing for the tenth Annual USC Women's Conference
- 30:57Speaker 3: that I just would want to share is that it
- 31:00Speaker 3: is happening.
- 31:01Speaker 4: Over three days.
- 31:03Speaker 3: We are remixing our format, so if anyone is familiar
- 31:09Speaker 3: with the conference in the past, it's always been usually
- 31:13Speaker 3: one day that starts in the morning with a huge
- 31:17Speaker 3: program with everyone together in our main auditorium. We then
- 31:22Speaker 3: go into breakout sessions, then we have a lunch all
- 31:25Speaker 3: together under a big, pretty tent, and then we come
- 31:28Speaker 3: back for a closing session with a keynote or a
- 31:31Speaker 3: panel and then networking over cocktails.
- 31:36Speaker 4: In the afternoon.
- 31:37Speaker 3: And that formula has worked very, very well for us.
- 31:40Speaker 3: We continue to receive a lot of great feedback on
- 31:45Speaker 3: that program. With the tenth annual, I feel that we
- 31:49Speaker 3: have this wonderful and unique opportunity that we want to
- 31:54Speaker 3: capitalize on, and so we're looking at creating an experience that,
- 32:00Speaker 3: as I shared, would go across the three days, starting
- 32:03Speaker 3: with a Thursday night VIP networking session that would include
- 32:08Speaker 3: all of our speakers from the conference who are able
- 32:11Speaker 3: to join us, and then other high profile alumni.
- 32:15Speaker 4: Women, USC women, parents, and some students.
- 32:19Speaker 3: The Friday would look a lot like our conference of today,
- 32:24Speaker 3: and then on Saturday, that's the opportunity that I'm very
- 32:27Speaker 3: very excited about. Saturday we believe will draw out, hopefully
- 32:32Speaker 3: audiences that we haven't really been able to capture as
- 32:36Speaker 3: deeply as we've wanted. So that includes a younger professional
- 32:41Speaker 3: women who probably don't have the license to take off
- 32:46Speaker 3: from work the way that some of our more established
- 32:48Speaker 3: women do, so that's a population that we want to
- 32:51Speaker 3: see grow. Also, we have over the years received a
- 32:56Speaker 3: lot of inquiries from women and some fathers who have
- 33:00Speaker 3: wanted to bring their school age daughters to the conference
- 33:04Speaker 3: and the programming and with it being you know, on
- 33:07Speaker 3: a school day, we just could not a good conscience
- 33:09Speaker 3: say yes, bring your ten year old or twelve year
- 33:12Speaker 3: old or seventeen year.
- 33:13Speaker 4: Olds for that fact.
- 33:14Speaker 3: And so now we're looking at doing some specific programming
- 33:18Speaker 3: so that mothers can bring their daughters and if fathers
- 33:22Speaker 3: want to bring their daughters as well or send their daughters,
- 33:24Speaker 3: they can because we'll have some programming that will.
- 33:28Speaker 4: Speak to that age demographic. And so we're.
- 33:32Speaker 3: Really really excited about that. And then finally the last
- 33:36Speaker 3: piece of the Saturday that is new for us. We
- 33:40Speaker 3: have received over in the years many inquiries from alumni
- 33:45Speaker 3: and alumni women in particular, who have businesses that.
- 33:50Speaker 4: Have told us, hey, I can't be one of.
- 33:52Speaker 3: Your sponsors at you know, one of the sponsorship levels,
- 33:55Speaker 3: but I would love to just have a table or
- 33:58Speaker 3: an exhibit at the conference. And so from that feedback,
- 34:02Speaker 3: we are creating an expo this year where Trojan owned businesses,
- 34:07Speaker 3: particularly women own businesses, will be able to participate. If
- 34:13Speaker 3: you're an author and you want to sell and sign
- 34:15Speaker 3: your book, if you're a small business owner and you
- 34:19Speaker 3: have a service to offer, you'll be able to display
- 34:22Speaker 3: your company.
- 34:23Speaker 4: And we're hoping that.
- 34:25Speaker 3: Both students who fall in that category because we do
- 34:28Speaker 3: have some very entrepreneurial students here at USC. Now you'll
- 34:32Speaker 3: be able to participate as well as our parents and
- 34:34Speaker 3: as I already shared, our alumni.
- 34:36Speaker 4: So we're looking at really getting new.
- 34:38Speaker 3: Audience members who haven't been able to participate in the
- 34:41Speaker 3: past and be a part of this big celebration.
- 34:45Speaker 2: I love it. I love that you're remixing the format.
- 34:48Speaker 2: I love your language for that. And it sounds like
- 34:51Speaker 2: that Saturday format is really going to help you tap
- 34:54Speaker 2: into a whole new demographic and possibly even new programming opportunities.
- 34:59Speaker 2: It sounds like.
- 35:00Speaker 3: Absolutely yes, we're really really thrilled about it. So more
- 35:04Speaker 3: information will be coming out by December, definitely by January.
- 35:10Speaker 4: And to your point, yes, Floria, we want.
- 35:13Speaker 3: People who have not been able to participate before to
- 35:16Speaker 3: come out and have a reason to come out, or
- 35:18Speaker 3: if they participated in the early years and haven't been back,
- 35:21Speaker 3: we want to see them back.
- 35:23Speaker 2: Absolutely well, thank you so much, Danielle. Is it okay
- 35:27Speaker 2: to share your personal contact information? How would you like
- 35:31Speaker 2: for people to know more about the conference? Number one?
- 35:34Speaker 2: And I see that there's a conference addressed here on
- 35:39Speaker 2: my notes, but is there also a way that you
- 35:42Speaker 2: maybe could welcome people to be in touch with you
- 35:44Speaker 2: personally as well.
- 35:46Speaker 4: Yes, absolutely.
- 35:47Speaker 3: If anyone has any questions about the conference, they can
- 35:50Speaker 3: definitely go to our website, Women's Conference dot USC dot edu.
- 35:56Speaker 4: You can also follow us on.
- 35:58Speaker 3: Facebook and Instagram, which is at UTC Women's Conference. And
- 36:02Speaker 3: then just for me personally, if anyone ever has any
- 36:05Speaker 3: questions or if there are any Trojans listening Hey fight On,
- 36:10Speaker 3: you can always contact me here at the Alumni Association.
- 36:13Speaker 3: My email is harveyd at USC dot edu. And then
- 36:20Speaker 3: also I don't do a lot on Twitter, I do
- 36:22Speaker 3: more on Instagram, but both of my handles are at
- 36:26Speaker 3: Danny Eliza Harvey, which is a combination of my first name,
- 36:30Speaker 3: middle name, and last name.
- 36:32Speaker 2: Hey. Great, well, thank you again so much, Danielle, for
- 36:36Speaker 2: all that you're doing for University of Southern California Fight
- 36:41Speaker 2: On Yes, and all that you have shared with our
- 36:45Speaker 2: listeners today. We have listeners all over the planet, and
- 36:48Speaker 2: I know that you're going to add a lot of
- 36:50Speaker 2: value to them and inspire them. So thank you again
- 36:52Speaker 2: for being my guest, and sadly I have to say goodbye,
- 36:56Speaker 2: but I would love to have you back another time.
- 36:59Speaker 3: Absolutely, I'd love to do it, and thank you so
- 37:01Speaker 3: so much, Gloria for the opportunity. Side onto all my
- 37:04Speaker 3: trojans and love you so much. I can't tell you enough.
- 37:08Speaker 2: Thank you. You have a good rest of your day.
- 37:12Speaker 1: What a fabulous conversation. Thanks again to Danielle Harvey Stenson
- 37:17Speaker 1: for being my guest. If you'd like to learn more
- 37:21Speaker 1: about Danielle's work, or, as she mentioned during today's conversation,
- 37:26Speaker 1: if you want to contact her directly about programming services
- 37:30Speaker 1: or anything else that she offers through USC, you can
- 37:34Speaker 1: reach out to her via this email address, and that's
- 37:38Speaker 1: Harvey d h A r v E Y d is
- 37:44Speaker 1: and Danielle at USC dot edu. Or you can reach
- 37:50Speaker 1: out to Danielle on Instagram or Twitter. Her Twitter handle
- 37:55Speaker 1: is at d A n I E l I z
- 38:02Speaker 1: A h A r v e y Okay now love it.
- 38:11Speaker 1: If you missed any part of this week's episode, you
- 38:14Speaker 1: can listen to the podcast right here on Talk Network Radio.
- 38:18Speaker 1: You can also catch us on iTunes or SoundCloud or
- 38:22Speaker 1: Android alexaspreaker dot com. We're in so many places, hallelujah. Yeah,
- 38:28Speaker 1: thank you for listening, because when you listen, we just
- 38:32Speaker 1: get bigger and bigger, and we share the wealth more
- 38:35Speaker 1: and more. So thank you for telling others about this
- 38:38Speaker 1: podcast and for sharing the wealth. Okay, that's how we
- 38:42Speaker 1: do it now. I know that when Danielle mentioned her
- 38:48Speaker 1: mom as one of the people who influenced her during
- 38:51Speaker 1: our conversation, who influenced her as a leader, she got
- 38:55Speaker 1: me to thinking about, you know, some of the folks
- 38:57Speaker 1: who influenced me. So I want to ask ask you this,
- 39:00Speaker 1: who are some of the leaders in your life who
- 39:03Speaker 1: poured into you when you were young, and who's pouring
- 39:07Speaker 1: into you now as an adult, who influenced you, who
- 39:13Speaker 1: inspired you? Now this is my zone. As you know,
- 39:18Speaker 1: Inspiration such an important quality in a leader, right, and
- 39:23Speaker 1: we all want our leaders to be inspiring. We're like
- 39:27Speaker 1: mouths that are drawn to a flame and who were
- 39:30Speaker 1: naturally drawn to people who inspire us. But before leaders,
- 39:36Speaker 1: or anyone else for that matter, can inspire others, they
- 39:39Speaker 1: must first be inspired. Now, many of you know you've
- 39:45Speaker 1: heard me talk about this before. That inspire comes from
- 39:48Speaker 1: this beautiful Latin word inspirare. I just love saying that inspirare,
- 39:55Speaker 1: which means to breathe into or upon and to become inspired.
- 40:01Speaker 1: We must be infused with life from a force outside
- 40:07Speaker 1: of ourselves, and for me, I'm a person of faith,
- 40:10Speaker 1: so that means being infused with life, being breathed into
- 40:15Speaker 1: by God. Now how does this happen? Well, that's another show, right,
- 40:22Speaker 1: Maybe sometime I'll do a show just on inspiration. But
- 40:26Speaker 1: for now, let me just say that when we are
- 40:29Speaker 1: infused with that inspirara with inspiration, something shifts in us,
- 40:36Speaker 1: something changes. Some say that magic happens. I say the
- 40:42Speaker 1: impact might be magical, but there is nothing magical about it.
- 40:48Speaker 1: It really is about being an open channel, a con
- 40:52Speaker 1: to it for God, for the divine to work through
- 40:57Speaker 1: us and to use us as his vessel. Picasso speaks
- 41:01Speaker 1: about this, Beethoven, Michelangelo, and many other artists speak about
- 41:07Speaker 1: this very same thing. Several years ago, I was on
- 41:11Speaker 1: a trip to Tuscany, which, by the way, my guest
- 41:15Speaker 1: Danielle had a strong hand in making that trip happen.
- 41:19Speaker 1: As a part of that very special trip to Tuscany,
- 41:23Speaker 1: this was for USC's women alumni and their friends. Anyway,
- 41:29Speaker 1: on that trip I had the great fortune to once
- 41:33Speaker 1: again witness Michelangelo's artistry. Right. I remember standing at the
- 41:38Speaker 1: base of his magnificent sculpture of David. I was absolutely transfixed,
- 41:46Speaker 1: and I was transported into another realm. Now you have
- 41:52Speaker 1: to realize that this sculpture of David is of David
- 41:56Speaker 1: as a young man. Most of you probably seen a
- 41:59Speaker 1: picture of it, or maybe you've been to Duscany too.
- 42:02Speaker 1: But this youth, okay, this young man who was about
- 42:05Speaker 1: to duke it out with the mighty giant Goliath. I mean,
- 42:09Speaker 1: this amazing statue is actually fourteen and a half feet tall.
- 42:14Speaker 1: That's taller than a house, right. Okay, it's about the
- 42:18Speaker 1: height of a two story building, and that doesn't even
- 42:21Speaker 1: include the base, which is about three feet high. Right,
- 42:25Speaker 1: So we're really talking about a statue that's about two
- 42:29Speaker 1: and a half stories tall. So I'm standing there at
- 42:32Speaker 1: the foot of this absolutely magnificent sculpture of David, and
- 42:38Speaker 1: I'm in heaven. Of course, forget about the bees nests
- 42:45Speaker 1: of dozens of other people buzzing around me. I mean,
- 42:49Speaker 1: there are tons of folks who are they're just like me,
- 42:52Speaker 1: just like me, to admire this absolutely astounding work of art.
- 42:57Speaker 1: They're shooting videos, posing for selfies. I mean, you get
- 43:01Speaker 1: the picture, right, Pardon the pun. But in the midst,
- 43:05Speaker 1: right in the midst of this sea of humanity, I
- 43:09Speaker 1: had this wonderful epiphany, this wonderful aha, I realized that
- 43:16Speaker 1: the task of the artist and the task of the
- 43:23Speaker 1: leader is actually one and the same. Right, And just
- 43:28Speaker 1: what is this task? Well, I thought you'd never ask.
- 43:32Speaker 1: The task is to release our resistance, to simply surrender,
- 43:39Speaker 1: to surrender what wants to be born in us and
- 43:43Speaker 1: to be born through us. To simply surrender to what
- 43:47Speaker 1: wants to be born in and through our marriages, our
- 43:51Speaker 1: relationships with our kids, our friendships, right, our communities, in
- 43:58Speaker 1: and through our teams and our organizations and communities. Now,
- 44:04Speaker 1: Danielle spoke about her creativity in her own work. Wow,
- 44:10Speaker 1: creativity such a powerful, powerful force if we let it,
- 44:16Speaker 1: if we surrender to it, creativity can actually be a
- 44:20Speaker 1: powerful and amazing ally If we just open our hearts
- 44:25Speaker 1: and minds, creativity can be an ally, a resource, a
- 44:30Speaker 1: guide to support us in how we live and also
- 44:35Speaker 1: in how we lead at home, at work, and in
- 44:40Speaker 1: any area of our lives every single day three sixty
- 44:45Speaker 1: five twenty four seven. Why, Because how you live is
- 44:54Speaker 1: how you lead. In fact, how we live is really
- 44:57Speaker 1: how we show up in every aspect of our lives. Right,
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- 47:39Speaker 1: That's our show today. I'm your host, Doctor Gloria Gloria Burgess.
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