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  Speaker 1: He's the Report.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm James Macpherson.
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  Speaker 2: Coming up tonight. Dan Andrews defends his disgraceful decision to
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  Speaker 2: cozy Upta Jiji Ping at China's military parade. National's MP
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  Speaker 2: Barnaby Joyce will join me shortly and he is ready
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  Speaker 2: to tee off. Plus, despite Donald Trump's best efforts, peace
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  Speaker 2: in Ukraine looks further away than ever. I'll talk to
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  Speaker 2: US General Jack Keane. The Prime Minister is questioned in
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  Speaker 2: Parliament about plans to bring ISIS brides back to Australia,
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  Speaker 2: and I've got to tell you his response, well, it
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  Speaker 2: was too tricky by half. And the Deputy Prime Minister
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  Speaker 2: of the UK, well, she's in hot water and facing
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  Speaker 2: calls to resign over would you believe it unpaid taxes.
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  Speaker 2: But first, Dan Andrews has just released a statement defending
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  Speaker 2: his decision to attend a Chinese Communist Party military parade
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  Speaker 2: in Beijing, and I've got to give you a spoiler alert.
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  Speaker 2: It's every bit as convincing as you would expect. It
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  Speaker 2: begins like this, and I quote, I was invited to
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  Speaker 2: Beijing for the eightieth anniversary of China's victory over Japan
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  Speaker 2: in World War Two. Ah, yes, the old they invited
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  Speaker 2: me defense, because when Bilzebub invites you for cocktails in
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  Speaker 2: hell will etiquette demands that you accept. It's not my fault.
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  Speaker 2: I was associating with the world's worst people. They invited me. Honestly,
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  Speaker 2: my kids used to come up with better lines than that.
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  Speaker 2: And then came the justification. Dan Andrews wrote, I've said
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  Speaker 2: for years that a constructive relationship with China, our largest
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  Speaker 2: trading partner, is an Australia's natural national interest and hundreds
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  Speaker 2: of thousands of Australian jobs depend on it. That hasn't changed.
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  Speaker 2: Hang on a second, dan Andrews was there representing the
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  Speaker 2: national interest? I thought he was there as a private citizen.
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  Speaker 2: You can't have it both, Frankly, that statement creates more
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  Speaker 2: confusion about exactly what Dan Andrews's role at the parade was,
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  Speaker 2: but which had he was wearing. It apparently came with
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  Speaker 2: a complimentary VIP seat at a dictatorship's pep talk. Next,
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  Speaker 2: he tries the distraction tactic. He writes, it was a
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  Speaker 2: chance to meet and engage with regional leaders like former
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  Speaker 2: New Zealand Prime Ministers John Key and Helen Clark, Malaysian
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister Anwai Ibrahim, and of course Chinese President Ji.
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  Speaker 2: Don't you love how he throws in a couple of
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  Speaker 2: Kiwi prime ministers to try and distract from the dictators,
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  Speaker 2: although some would argue Helen Clark is not much of
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  Speaker 2: a distraction from the dictators. But nothing screams perfectly normal company,
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  Speaker 2: like name dropping John Key to camouflage the fact you
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  Speaker 2: were clinking glasses with Jijing Ping and Vladimir Putin? Why
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  Speaker 2: was I consorting with the president of Iran just days
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  Speaker 2: after it was revealed Iran was launching attacks in Australia
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  Speaker 2: against Australians. Look over there, Helen Clark. Honestly, then came
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  Speaker 2: the big concession. We also shared an official photograph. Yes, Dan,
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  Speaker 2: yes you did. You posed for a family portrait with
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  Speaker 2: all the worst people on the planet. But in fairness,
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  Speaker 2: the lighting was excellent and finally, sensing the optics work
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  Speaker 2: roughly as good as a handshake with Stalin, Dan Andrews
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  Speaker 2: tried to reassure us that he still had a moral compass.
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  Speaker 2: He wrote, just so there's no confusion, I've condemned putin
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  Speaker 2: my support for Israel and Australia's Jewish community has been
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  Speaker 2: outspoken and I unequivalently condemned Iran for its attack on Australia,
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  Speaker 2: Israel and elsewhere in the world. Wonderful. He condemns dictators
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  Speaker 2: and terrorists on Tuesday, then lines up for selfies with
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  Speaker 2: them on Wednesday. In Dan's world, evil is bad unless
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  Speaker 2: it raised out a red carpet and provides you with dumplings.
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  Speaker 2: You know it makes sense. Labor MP Ed Hussick wants
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  Speaker 2: Australian's banned from joining the Israeli defense Force. He told
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  Speaker 2: Parliament that Israeli Australian dual nationals risk being caught up
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  Speaker 2: in a genocide if they participate in the war in Gaza.
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  Speaker 3: We don't need Australians placed in a position where they
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  Speaker 3: witness a bet or participate in what will likely be
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  Speaker 3: deemed a genocide. I'd urge our government to send a
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  Speaker 3: clear statement surrounding the risks of participating in IDF actions
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  Speaker 3: in Gaza. I'd also urge our government to consider reforming
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  Speaker 3: our laws to prevent dual nationals joining a foreign force
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  Speaker 3: in cases where a body with the weight of the
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  Speaker 3: ICJ belze plausible genocide could be occurring in a part
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  Speaker 3: of the world where a foreign force is operating.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I'd be interested to hear what ed Husick has
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  Speaker 2: to say about the plan to bring twenty Isis brides
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  Speaker 2: and their children back to our country from Syria. Isis
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  Speaker 2: beheaded and burned people for no other reason than that
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  Speaker 2: they were not Muslims. Does ed Husick think that's a
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  Speaker 2: good idea to welcome back people who left Australia to
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  Speaker 2: help Isis. I guess we'll never know. He's been conspicuously
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  Speaker 2: quiet on that question. Can't work out why. But inconsistency
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  Speaker 2: is ed Husick's brand. When anti Israel marchers paraded across
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  Speaker 2: the Sydney Harbor Bridge waving Palestinian flags and chanting things
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  Speaker 2: that would make Asio nervous, ed insisted it was an
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  Speaker 2: important rally sully by a tiny minority. Yet when Australians
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  Speaker 2: marched under their own flag at the weekend, he suddenly
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  Speaker 2: discovered the terrifying specter of neo Nazis lurking behind every lamppost.
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  Speaker 2: Note the contrast there are.
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  Speaker 4: When you have so many people present, therell you won't
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  Speaker 4: agree with everyone, and clearly people will pick out. Some
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  Speaker 4: things that objected were objectionable to other people, and I
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  Speaker 4: completely understand that that's democracy, but I just think I
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  Speaker 4: would hate for it to detract from the images of
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  Speaker 4: that aerial view of the Harbor Bridge with so many
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  Speaker 4: people on it that just want the hostilities to end,
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  Speaker 4: and particularly impact on kids. Those rallies were whipped up
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  Speaker 4: by far right extremists and they are Nazis. A lot
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  Speaker 4: of people were warned about that. A lot of people
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  Speaker 4: have been told as well. The facts just don't stack up.
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  Speaker 4: I'm not in the business of doing There are good
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  Speaker 4: people on both sides. Arguments sounded like to you, But
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  Speaker 4: I am just saying to you that I think a
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  Speaker 4: lot of people in the Australian public would have been
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  Speaker 4: extremely unsettled by what they'd seen.
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  Speaker 2: The former industry minister, who made history as the first
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  Speaker 2: Muslim to be elected to the Australian Federal Parliament in
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  Speaker 2: twenty ten, was asked yesterday whether there were any good
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  Speaker 2: people at the March for Australia rallies.
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  Speaker 4: I haven't seen a good fascist yet.
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  Speaker 2: So if I'm understanding ed Husick March for Hamas, it's
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  Speaker 2: a tiny minority of people not really a problem March
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  Speaker 2: for Australia. That's a Nazi problem. We should all be
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  Speaker 2: deeply worried about. Join Isis welcome home, Join the IDF
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  Speaker 2: to help get back Jewish hostages. You're a genocide enabler.
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  Speaker 2: Or to put it another way, waving the Australian flag
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  Speaker 2: is fascism, Waving the Palestinian flag is freedom, and waving
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  Speaker 2: the ISIS flag, well, that was just a phase. Ed
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  Speaker 2: Husick isn't the only politician in our federal Parliament who
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  Speaker 2: has one rule for me and another for the Green
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  Speaker 2: Senator Sarah Hanson Young was asked today about her colleagues
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  Speaker 2: objection to just intera nampajimper Price making a speech on
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  Speaker 2: National Flag Day while draped in the national flag. Now,
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  Speaker 2: just to refresh your memory, here's what happened yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: Today is National Flag Day. When one understands the history
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  Speaker 5: behind our national flag, when one values its symbolic weight,
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  Speaker 5: it's beyond comprehension that the burning of our national flag
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  Speaker 5: is not a criminal offense.
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  Speaker 6: I asked for a ruling please on whether the senator
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  Speaker 6: is who's wrapped in the national flag at the moment,
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  Speaker 6: is controverting the standing order that prevents props, and I
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  Speaker 6: do want to make the point that if it's okay
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  Speaker 6: for Senator Nampa jimber Price to wrap herself in this flag,
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  Speaker 6: I would intend to wrap myself in a Palestinian flag.
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  Speaker 2: Now here's Senator Hanson young when asked today about her
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  Speaker 2: views on whether or not all of that was necessary.
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  Speaker 7: The question here is whether the flag itself is a prop.
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  Speaker 7: I think, you know, you can use items in different ways,
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  Speaker 7: and was it being used as a prop? Look, the
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  Speaker 7: Senate standing orders are clear about props, but I think
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  Speaker 7: there is a question mark over the use of a
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  Speaker 7: flag as a prop. That now has been referred to
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  Speaker 7: what is called the Procedures Committee, which will discuss the
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  Speaker 7: issue and recommend what the standing orders should be. So
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  Speaker 7: it's you know, yes, props are against the standing orders,
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  Speaker 7: people use them. The question is is the flag being
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  Speaker 7: used as a prop?
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  Speaker 2: Is she serious? This is what the Senate has been
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  Speaker 2: reduced to, petty arguments over whether or not the national
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  Speaker 2: flag is a prop. Senator Hanson treated it like it
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  Speaker 2: was all a big joke.
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  Speaker 7: The President has now referred that to the Prestigious Committee.
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  Speaker 7: I for one, pete, I'm lucky enough to be on
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  Speaker 7: the Prestigious Committee, so at some point we'll be discussing
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  Speaker 7: that and.
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  Speaker 2: We'll come back to it. The problem is, I don't
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  Speaker 2: think the rest of us are laughing. This country has
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  Speaker 2: serious problems with social cohesion and the Greens want to
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  Speaker 2: play school yard games over the use of the flag.
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  Speaker 2: The only joke here is the Greens, except we're exhausted
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  Speaker 2: from laughing at them. I was interested in this comment though.
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  Speaker 7: I can absolutely understand that it is our national flag
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  Speaker 7: and whether it's the Australian flag or the use of
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  Speaker 7: the Indigenous flag, which also is very important and stands
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  Speaker 7: proudly on the floor of our chamber as well. So
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  Speaker 7: it's not as if there's no flags in the chamber.
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  Speaker 7: There are, it's the use of it.
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  Speaker 2: I liked how Senator Hanson Young mentions the indigenous flag question.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think the Greens would have complained that Senator
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  Speaker 2: Jacinta Nampa jimber Price gave a speech on I don't
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  Speaker 2: know sorry day if she was draped in the Indigenous flag.
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  Speaker 2: I think you and I both know the answer to
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  Speaker 2: that one. But here's the real hypocrisy that I want
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  Speaker 2: to get to. Senator Hanson Young went on with a
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  Speaker 2: passionate rant describing her disgust that Neo Nazis had marched
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  Speaker 2: under the banner of the Australian flag at the weekend.
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  Speaker 7: What I've felt extremely disturbed about this week in relation
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  Speaker 7: to the flag is the use of the flag by
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  Speaker 7: self prescribed neo Nazis over the weekend. I'm disgusted and
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  Speaker 7: appalled and sadly heartbroken by the use of the flag
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  Speaker 7: for hate and division.
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  Speaker 2: Now I agree, But then my colleague Pete Stefanovic asked
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  Speaker 2: a very good question.
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  Speaker 8: In that same argument, do you condemn those the pro
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  Speaker 8: Palestinian protesters who burn the Australian flag?
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  Speaker 2: Excellent question, And how do you think Senator Hanson Young,
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  Speaker 2: a great proponent of the sanctity of the national flag, responded, well,
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  Speaker 2: she gave a masterclass in political aerobics.
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  Speaker 7: Look, I think the destruction of flags has a long
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  Speaker 7: history in political protest.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not going to you know, but you'd condemn that too,
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  Speaker 2: wouldn't you.
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  Speaker 7: Depending Well, you know, there is a freedom of use.
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  Speaker 2: My point is what.
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  Speaker 7: You're associating our national flag with, and I don't believe
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  Speaker 7: our national flag should be or needs to be are
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  Speaker 7: associated with neo Nazis, I don't think that should be.
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  Speaker 2: But a pro Palestinian march is able to burn it.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think the use of political expression is something
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  Speaker 7: and the freedom of political expression is something that is
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  Speaker 7: dear to democracy.
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  Speaker 2: Are you hearing what I'm hearing? If you hold the
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  Speaker 2: national flag while speaking about the importance of the national
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  Speaker 2: flag in the Senate Chamber, that's a scandal. But if
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  Speaker 2: you burn the national flag in the middle of the
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  Speaker 2: Melbourne CBD, well that's a wonderful celebration of our right
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  Speaker 2: to stage a political protest. And neo Nazi who waives
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  Speaker 2: the Australian flag is a threat to our democracy. On
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  Speaker 2: that point, I agree. But a pro Palestinian who burns
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  Speaker 2: the Australian flag, usually while denouncing Australia is illegitimate and
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  Speaker 2: calling for Australia to be abolished, well, apparently that's an
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  Speaker 2: exercise in democracy. I should point out. Sarah Hanson Young
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  Speaker 2: is considered a moderate within the Greens will Former Victorian
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  Speaker 2: Premier Daniel Andrews received a VIP welcome in Beijing yesterday,
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  Speaker 2: rubbing shoulders with the world's dictators like he was on
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  Speaker 2: an episode of The Apprentice authoritarian edition. And it's no
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  Speaker 2: surprise that Chinese Communist Party loves him so much. After all,
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  Speaker 2: who wouldn't adore a visiting politician who openly admires your
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  Speaker 2: brand of government. It turns out that back in March,
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  Speaker 2: Dan Andrews graced Chinese television with high praise for Jijingping's
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  Speaker 2: commitment to fighting climate change. Not just a casual nod,
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  Speaker 2: mind you, Andrews insisted China deserves much more credit than
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  Speaker 2: it gets for its heroic march toward green energy.
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  Speaker 9: If you look at China's record, massive investments and a
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  Speaker 9: big switch, a very big switch, one that I don't
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  Speaker 9: think China quite gets the international credit and acclaim for
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  Speaker 9: that it should should get.
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  Speaker 2: And Andrews didn't stop there. He made sure to express
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  Speaker 2: a keen fascination with central government.
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  Speaker 9: It's really important to see President she as well as
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  Speaker 9: other senior leaders across China so consistently speak about changing
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  Speaker 9: the way economic growth occurs. I'm really looking forward to
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  Speaker 9: hearing more about how Chinese government, the central government, sees
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  Speaker 9: that unfolding in.
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  Speaker 2: The years to come. Joining me now is National's MP Barnaby.
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  Speaker 2: Joyce Barnaby is Daniel Andrews right, China deserves far more
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  Speaker 2: credit for their efforts to curb emissions, don't they.
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  Speaker 10: It's so absurd. I don't know whether it's pathos, it's
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  Speaker 10: it's actually grueling. It it's wrong, it's bad everything he's done.
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  Speaker 10: First of all, China is currently under construction two hundred
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  Speaker 10: and seventy five two hundred and seventy five gigawatts of
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  Speaker 10: coal fire power. We only have twenty two in total
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  Speaker 10: in Australia, So spare me this.
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  Speaker 2: Idea that they're out of coal.
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  Speaker 10: They're expanding their coal fleet every day massively. Now they
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  Speaker 10: might be expanding their intermittent power fleet, but nothing like
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  Speaker 10: what they're doing with coal. A massive amount of energy
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  Speaker 10: for them comes from col and if you've got intermitted power,
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  Speaker 10: remember in China they've got things such as hydroelectricity from
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  Speaker 10: the three gorgeous dams. Mister Andrews suggesting that we start
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  Speaker 10: damming every river, happy to support him if he wants
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  Speaker 10: to put a few more dams in. But more to
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  Speaker 10: the point, he's at a he is at a parade.
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  Speaker 10: Those military ordinances that is all going along, the missiles,
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  Speaker 10: the tanks, the hypersonics.
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  Speaker 2: Then they're not they're not designed for anywhere.
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  Speaker 10: Else except the possibility that they come in our direction.
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  Speaker 10: He's actually looking at the ordinances that in the state,
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  Speaker 10: in the current climate, could be the reason that tens
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  Speaker 10: of thousands, hundreds of thousands of Australians are killed. And
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  Speaker 10: he's sitting there at the parade with a totalitarian dictator
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  Speaker 10: and the totalitarian dictators totalitarian dictator friends. It's I mean,
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  Speaker 10: it's Lord hawhaw sort of approach this one. It's unfathomable
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  Speaker 10: how he somehow decided that he would be at that parade.
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  Speaker 2: So, Bartaby, what you've said about China's emissions or lack
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  Speaker 2: of reduction of emissions. Does Daniel Andrews just not know
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  Speaker 2: about that or is there another agenda being run here?
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  Speaker 10: Well, you know, I wouldn't suggest, but one could say
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  Speaker 10: look at a simile, and people can make up their
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  Speaker 10: own minds. When people are involved in propaganda, when people
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  Speaker 10: have an ulterior purpose, they can sometimes bend the truth,
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  Speaker 10: ben the truth, because what he's saying, if you believe
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  Speaker 10: the inference that they all going to into minutes, that's
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  Speaker 10: just not the truth. If you I mean, did he
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  Speaker 10: talk about the wigas and basically slave labor building the
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  Speaker 10: solar panels.
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  Speaker 2: He did give a mention to that.
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  Speaker 10: I mean, every time you turn on a light the
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  Speaker 10: solar panel, just think it's come from China. It might
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  Speaker 10: be slave labor.
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  Speaker 2: Do you condone that? Are you happy with that?
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  Speaker 10: You know what if the shoes came from slave labor,
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  Speaker 10: would you wear them? So you know, there it is,
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  Speaker 10: you know, it is what it is. He was in
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  Speaker 10: a photo with Kim John Un. He's basically, you know,
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  Speaker 10: starving his own people to death. He's built nuclear weapons
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  Speaker 10: at the expense of feeding his own people. He has
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  Speaker 10: locked them up in a sort of a Stalinus prison state.
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  Speaker 10: He was sitting standing there with Vladimir Putin. He invaded
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  Speaker 10: a country in Europe and he's still invading it. Hundreds
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  Speaker 10: of thousands have been killed. And with Xijing Ping, who
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  Speaker 10: basically put aside the rule of law and just decided
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  Speaker 10: to take over the South Pacific, ramming Philippine boats, disputes
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  Speaker 10: with japan spies in Australia. You know, we're hacking into
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  Speaker 10: our computers.
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  Speaker 2: Are you supporting them?
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  Speaker 10: Dan? You know, Daniel, you if you like it that much, Daniel, well,
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  Speaker 10: don't come home because your home's obviously there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, Barnaby. I want to talk a bit more about
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  Speaker 2: him being at that military parade, but just staying with
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  Speaker 2: his comments on China's emissions. I guess it makes sense
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  Speaker 2: that he admires central planning, because really, if you're going
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  Speaker 2: to go full renewables for net zero, it does require
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  Speaker 2: a lot of government intervention. At least on that point.
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  Speaker 2: He's been consistent.
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  Speaker 10: Well, I'll take up on two things. They're not renewables.
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  Speaker 10: They're intermittence. They're swindle factories. Their role gold annuity is
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  Speaker 10: for domestic billionaires and overseas companies, some of which I
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  Speaker 10: have to admit Daniel archines. They're the impoverishment of those
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  Speaker 10: who are poor by driving up the price of power.
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  Speaker 10: Their secret commercial and confidence not for publication in the
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  Speaker 10: budget papers. Is there any other section of the economy
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  Speaker 10: we would have such clothes and such secrecy where taxpayers
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  Speaker 10: money went, and central planning.
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  Speaker 2: You can plan it.
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  Speaker 10: All you like, but if you're going to have intermittence
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  Speaker 10: from wind and soul, the lights will go out. You
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  Speaker 10: just can't do it. Physics winds the argument. You get
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  Speaker 10: to a certain level and then it just does not work.
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  Speaker 10: There is not an economy on this planet. Worthwhile talking
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  Speaker 10: about that runs itself on intermittent solar and wind. We
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  Speaker 10: can't even make the intermittent solar and wind capital goodness,
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  Speaker 10: gracious me. You think you're going to run your economy
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  Speaker 10: on it? And the proof is in the pudding. Your
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  Speaker 10: power prices have gone through the roof in direct correlation
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  Speaker 10: with the more and more intermittence that have come on.
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  Speaker 10: You have had record insolvencies in small business. You are
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  Speaker 10: putting poor people out of the house. You have a
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  Speaker 10: cost of living crisis. You de industrialized this nation down
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  Speaker 10: to two. Are refineries? Are steel industries on its knees.
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  Speaker 10: Plastics industry is gone. Your erea industry is gone, Industrial
• 19:48
  Speaker 10: glass is gone, aluminiums is on its knees. You don't
• 19:53
  Speaker 10: have to prove anything, mister Daniel. You know it's not
• 19:58
  Speaker 10: the biblical Daniel. It's the disastrous Daniel Barnaby.
• 20:03
  Speaker 2: As you well know, politics is a muddy business. Issues
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: are rarely black and white. But let's be honest. The
• 20:09
  Speaker 2: question of whether or not it's appropriate or even remotely
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: wise for the former Victorian premier to have attended the
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: Communist Party military parade and post for photos with the
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: West sworn enemies. Well, that one's I would say, about
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: as complicated as a stop sign. Even said that Jackie
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: Lamby gets it.
• 20:26
  Speaker 11: I have to ask when he fell down the stairs,
• 20:28
  Speaker 11: not only did you damage his back, do you actually
• 20:30
  Speaker 11: do something to his head?
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: I mean, what is he thinking?
• 20:33
  Speaker 11: And I have to say this, if Home Affairs isn't
• 20:35
  Speaker 11: going through him with a fine tooth game, then they
• 20:37
  Speaker 11: bloody will should be. You know, it's sitting on a
• 20:40
  Speaker 11: very fine bout.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: What sort of person.
• 20:43
  Speaker 11: Where is his political judgment or human judgment because he's
• 20:46
  Speaker 11: not in politics anymore.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: Where's this human judgment?
• 20:49
  Speaker 11: Would think that you should be standing in a photo
• 20:52
  Speaker 11: like that.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe everyone in labor has hit their heads.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: Dan Andrews, protege and current Victorian Premier just Into Allen,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: refused outright to criticize her mate for hob nobbing with dictators.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: In fact, she praised his attendance in Beijing, saying it
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: was good for Victoria. She released this statement saying it's
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: good for Victoria that Daniel Andrews is held in such
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: high regard by the people of China. Victoria is an
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: old friend of China and these connections are so valuable
• 21:19
  Speaker 2: for our state. And then there was Victorian Transport Minister
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: Gabrielle Williams. She didn't have an opinion on the ethics
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: of sidling up to dictators. She was just relieved that
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: she didn't get an invite, which I think is a
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: polite way of saying, thank god I didn't have to choose.
• 21:35
  Speaker 12: This is not an event that I would likely be
• 21:37
  Speaker 12: invited to, nor is it one that I would attend personally.
• 21:40
  Speaker 12: But in saying that, this is a decision that Dan
• 21:44
  Speaker 12: has made as a private citizen, and it is one
• 21:47
  Speaker 12: that he is the only person that should appropriately speak to.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Well, Barnaby, what about Federal Minister for Industry Ted Air
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: as surely he understood a labor luminary should not be
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: posing for photos with Putin and Kim Jong un.
• 22:01
  Speaker 8: We are focused not on headlines and press releases, but
• 22:05
  Speaker 8: are acting carefully and consistently in a way that is
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: calibrated to serve Australia's national interest, not you know, hot
• 22:15
  Speaker 8: gossip and headlines.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: Yes, focused on the national interest, with nothing to say
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: about how Dan Andrew's been in Beijing might affect the
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: national interest. Coward, But what about Prome Minister Anthony Albaneze.
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: Surely he would bring some moral clarity, some gravitis, some
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: leadership to the issue. Ask for his opinion. Here's how
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: he responded in Parliament today. They are Deluludians to speak.
• 22:41
  Speaker 8: I am not responsible for what every Australian citizen does.
• 22:45
  Speaker 8: What I'm responsible for, what I'm responsible.
• 22:48
  Speaker 13: For members on my lad is what our God does.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Barnaby. The absolute inability for anyone from Labor to come
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: out and say what you said earlier that Dan Andrews
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: was wrong to be there, it's just astonishing. What conclusion
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: should we draw?
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Well?
• 23:06
  Speaker 10: The problem is Miss alban easy promise of Australia are
• 23:11
  Speaker 10: responsible for commentary on what your views are on what
• 23:16
  Speaker 10: Dan Andrews has done. And what they can't get themselves
• 23:21
  Speaker 10: to say is I condemn the actions of Dan Andrews.
• 23:26
  Speaker 10: He is neither a representative in all ofist government, nor
• 23:28
  Speaker 10: do I condone any Australian's actions that would stand in
• 23:32
  Speaker 10: a photo shoot with people responsible for the deaths of
• 23:36
  Speaker 10: God knows how many hundreds of thousands of people between them.
• 23:40
  Speaker 10: I mean that, surely that's not too hard to say,
• 23:43
  Speaker 10: and that is the problem. They can't say it and
• 23:47
  Speaker 10: sort of this unwritten law, this sort of subterranean context
• 23:52
  Speaker 10: of this tribalism says that no, the bleeding obvious that
• 23:56
  Speaker 10: everybody knows is wrong. They can't let those words pass.
• 24:01
  Speaker 10: Mister Albinizi's lips, Miss Allen's lips, and mister Ayre's lips,
• 24:07
  Speaker 10: they just can't say it. And this goes to show
• 24:10
  Speaker 10: what an absolute face the authenticity and honesty and transparency
• 24:15
  Speaker 10: and basically, you know, the Australian people just want you
• 24:18
  Speaker 10: to say the bleeding obvious. And why can't he come
• 24:21
  Speaker 10: out and say, Look, I've known Daniel for a long while.
• 24:25
  Speaker 10: I bet I am absolutely disgusted by his actions and
• 24:28
  Speaker 10: he shouldn't have done that. And I'm afraid that even
• 24:30
  Speaker 10: there are times even friends have to disagree, and on
• 24:33
  Speaker 10: this instance, I fervently disagree, and I find abhorrent that
• 24:36
  Speaker 10: he would stand in that photo. And if he just
• 24:38
  Speaker 10: did that, then people say, okay, that's we move on.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're absolutely right. You should be a speechwriter for
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: the Prime Minister Barnaby. You'd improve his performance out of sight.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I appreciate your time tonight, Thanks so much for joining me,
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: my pleasure. Well coming up after the break what does
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: China's military parade mean for our most important ali, the
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: US General Jack Keane will join me in a moment. Well,
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: welcome back to the program. Like the rest of the world,
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump was eagerly watching yesterday's Beijing military parade and
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: wondering about the meeting between leaders of the so called
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Axis of upheaval. He wrote on social media, May President
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Ji and the wonderful people of China have a great
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: and lasting day of celebration. Please give my warmest regards
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: to Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong Un as you conspire
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: against the United States of America. Joining me now is
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: former US Army Vice Chief of Staff and four star
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: general General Jack Keen. Jack, Welcome to the program. I
• 25:39
  Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about the word conspire used by
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: Donald Trump in that social media post. Russia, China, and
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: North career all have their own objectives. Obviously so too, Desiran.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: I should point out whose president was at the Beijing meeting.
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: But how much conspiracy against the United States specifically do
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: you think is now taking place? What's the coordination likely
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: to look like, especially if and when conflict breaks out.
• 26:05
  Speaker 14: Well, there's nothing new about this. This has been taking
• 26:07
  Speaker 14: place for years now, several years. I was on the
• 26:10
  Speaker 14: Congressional Commission that ended last year, almost two years. We
• 26:14
  Speaker 14: were looking at this and we concluded that the most
• 26:18
  Speaker 14: significant geopolitical shift that's taken place in the world of
• 26:21
  Speaker 14: these four countries coordinating, cooperating, and collaborating together to change
• 26:27
  Speaker 14: the international order as it currently exists, which is largely
• 26:30
  Speaker 14: aligned with the United States in similar democratic countries, and
• 26:35
  Speaker 14: they want to be able to operate in their own
• 26:37
  Speaker 14: sphere of influence, accomplishing their own national interests, but they
• 26:42
  Speaker 14: are willing to support tangibly each other in their sphere
• 26:46
  Speaker 14: of influence. And the major conclusion we made that if
• 26:50
  Speaker 14: war actually broke out with a major power like the
• 26:54
  Speaker 14: United States or NATO or in the Indo Pacific region,
• 26:58
  Speaker 14: it is likely that war would break out in multiple theaters.
• 27:02
  Speaker 14: At the same time, we haven't had anything quite like
• 27:05
  Speaker 14: the significance of geopolitical framework among these four countries since
• 27:11
  Speaker 14: World War Two.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: And how significant is it that the leaders of China, Russia,
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: and North Korea were all together at one place on
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: public display? Is that significant? And is that sending a
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: message to the United States?
• 27:27
  Speaker 14: Yeah, it is, I sent of the United a message
• 27:30
  Speaker 14: to the world is really what it is in the
• 27:33
  Speaker 14: United States, obviously is the world's global leader, so largely
• 27:37
  Speaker 14: that but it's for everyone to understand that this relationship
• 27:41
  Speaker 14: is real. Certainly anybody looking at Ukraine knows how important
• 27:45
  Speaker 14: this relationship is. All of those countries are propped up Russia.
• 27:49
  Speaker 14: They would not be where they are without the assistance
• 27:52
  Speaker 14: from China, who's essentially financing the world by buying their
• 27:54
  Speaker 14: oil but also providing all the parts that they need
• 27:58
  Speaker 14: for major weapons systems. I gave them and built a
• 28:02
  Speaker 14: factory inside of Russia. All these drones as you see
• 28:08
  Speaker 14: these five six hundred drones a night that they've been using.
• 28:12
  Speaker 14: That all got started with the Iranian initiative. And the
• 28:15
  Speaker 14: ballistic missiles that they're using. They come from Iran and
• 28:19
  Speaker 14: also from North Korea. North Koreas providing them significant amount
• 28:22
  Speaker 14: of artillery, significant amount of artillery ammunition. So they have
• 28:29
  Speaker 14: made up their minds that it's in their national interest
• 28:32
  Speaker 14: those three countries for Russia to win the war against Ukraine.
• 28:36
  Speaker 14: And if they lose the war to the United States
• 28:39
  Speaker 14: and the Europeans and all those others who are supporting it,
• 28:43
  Speaker 14: that means that they lose as well. So yeah, there's
• 28:47
  Speaker 14: no doubt that these countries are working very closely together.
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: I want to get to the Ukraine War in a moment,
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: but just before we move on from the Beijing military parade,
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: what do we learn from that parade in in terms
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: of China's weaponry? Just how dangerous have they become.
• 29:05
  Speaker 14: I don't think we learned all that much from these
• 29:07
  Speaker 14: from these parades, but the yeah, they have on display.
• 29:12
  Speaker 14: They've modernized their whole nuclear arsenal and it's growing. The
• 29:16
  Speaker 14: United States nuclear arsenal is well known as astropheed and
• 29:21
  Speaker 14: we're in the process of modernized. Russia has completely modernized theirs.
• 29:26
  Speaker 14: By the way, they also displayed, you know, an ensemble
• 29:31
  Speaker 14: of drones. China makes the most drones of any country
• 29:34
  Speaker 14: in the world. They make most of the parts. Most
• 29:37
  Speaker 14: of the drones that you see flying on the side
• 29:39
  Speaker 14: of Ukraine, many of those parts come from China. That's
• 29:43
  Speaker 14: the reality of how much China dominates drones. And they
• 29:47
  Speaker 14: had on display some underwater drones that nobody has ever
• 29:51
  Speaker 14: seen before. They also displayed a new tank and some
• 29:55
  Speaker 14: other armored vehicles that we haven't seen. So there's always
• 29:59
  Speaker 14: a little bit of that. A lot of that is
• 30:01
  Speaker 14: well known before the parade takes place. It's more for
• 30:05
  Speaker 14: a general public viewing.
• 30:06
  Speaker 2: So on the Ukraine War, peace looks as distant as ever.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: Despite Trump's best efforts. Putin doesn't seem interested in negotiating
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: any sort of deal, and in Beijing he vowed to
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: keep on fighting. This war has been going three and
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: a half years. How does the conflict ever end? I
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: mean Trump came to office insisting in good solvent in
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: a day. What's the plan from here?
• 30:28
  Speaker 14: Well, I think there's a couple of options. I mean,
• 30:31
  Speaker 14: one is, I do believe that the war the most
• 30:35
  Speaker 14: likely way would add is to some kind of negotiated settlement,
• 30:40
  Speaker 14: similar to what we established after the Korean War. Separate
• 30:45
  Speaker 14: the two sides and you have some kind of armistice
• 30:50
  Speaker 14: in place. That would be the most desirable option. We
• 30:55
  Speaker 14: obviously have a lot of work to do. It's obvious
• 30:57
  Speaker 14: that Putin doesn't agree with that. President Trump, seld me
• 31:01
  Speaker 14: wants this war to end. Zelenski does, and so do
• 31:05
  Speaker 14: his people, but they don't want to do it on
• 31:07
  Speaker 14: Russian terms. I'm talking about Zelensky and the Ukrainian people.
• 31:11
  Speaker 14: They're clear about that they don't want to give up
• 31:14
  Speaker 14: a territory that Russia has not taken. They want nineteen
• 31:18
  Speaker 14: thousand kids that they've kidnapped back, and they shall me
• 31:21
  Speaker 14: want the prisoners of war back, which would likely take
• 31:24
  Speaker 14: place the war did end, but the other way it
• 31:27
  Speaker 14: would end if Putin has his way. What he's trying
• 31:30
  Speaker 14: to do is break the will of the United States,
• 31:32
  Speaker 14: wear us out and wear our president out in supporting Ukraine,
• 31:36
  Speaker 14: and do the same with the Europeans. And he's prepared
• 31:41
  Speaker 14: to continue the war. I mean, the fact is we
• 31:43
  Speaker 14: haven't demonstrated to Putin that his strategic objective, which is
• 31:49
  Speaker 14: to take Ukraine, that's obvious and also expand into eastern Europe.
• 31:54
  Speaker 14: We haven't deterred him from the thought that continuing the
• 31:57
  Speaker 14: war is his best option. And that's why he's continue
• 32:00
  Speaker 14: to talk nice but play very very hard and until
• 32:04
  Speaker 14: we get to that point where he sees that continuing
• 32:09
  Speaker 14: the war is not a good option for him. His
• 32:11
  Speaker 14: economy is in the tank and it's going to get further.
• 32:14
  Speaker 14: The Russian people are starting to suffer as a result
• 32:17
  Speaker 14: of that, and they see the war as being hopeless
• 32:19
  Speaker 14: and we give Ukraine the weapons they need to shut
• 32:22
  Speaker 14: down Russia's offensive, and then we give them the weapons
• 32:26
  Speaker 14: they need to conduct deep attacks into Russia and take
• 32:29
  Speaker 14: away the sanctuary they have for all of the logistics
• 32:32
  Speaker 14: that's supporting the war. If we did those two things
• 32:35
  Speaker 14: and tough economic sanctions and then took them out of
• 32:39
  Speaker 14: this swift financial exchange system, then they were going to
• 32:44
  Speaker 14: have a problem, and that would likely mean some kind
• 32:47
  Speaker 14: of negotiating settlement. But we're far from that, as you
• 32:50
  Speaker 14: can see.
• 32:51
  Speaker 2: Well, I've got to ask you. You make it sound
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: so simple. Why haven't those things been done?
• 32:58
  Speaker 14: It's a lack of will, And I think the reality
• 33:03
  Speaker 14: has been that we're trying to work a deal with
• 33:07
  Speaker 14: Putin and he is a master at manipulation and delay tactics,
• 33:13
  Speaker 14: and he keeps promising, like he did in Alaska. I
• 33:18
  Speaker 14: think the results were obvious. In Alaska, he promised that
• 33:21
  Speaker 14: he will meet with Zelenski in a bilateral meeting and
• 33:24
  Speaker 14: then have a trilateral meeting that would include a President
• 33:29
  Speaker 14: Trump after so on September first, the spokesperson said there
• 33:34
  Speaker 14: never was an agreement for a bilateral or a trilateral
• 33:38
  Speaker 14: meeting going forward. A promise made and a promise not kept.
• 33:41
  Speaker 14: We've been watching this four months and it's likely going
• 33:46
  Speaker 14: to continue where he'll throw us a bone, some incentive
• 33:51
  Speaker 14: that looks appealing that he's maybe changing his position. But
• 33:56
  Speaker 14: then once you get into the details of something like that,
• 33:59
  Speaker 14: it could lead maybe to another discussion with him. Then
• 34:02
  Speaker 14: he still delayed. And until such time as we put
• 34:07
  Speaker 14: the hammer down, so to speak, and do the three
• 34:10
  Speaker 14: things that I suggested we do, the military and the
• 34:13
  Speaker 14: economic combined. I think we're just going to continue to
• 34:17
  Speaker 14: protract this thing, and I think protract it unnecessarily.
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: But we're almost out of time. But I'm just going
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: to ask you one more question. Donald Trump likes to
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: boast about having great relationships with g and with Putin
• 34:29
  Speaker 2: and with Kim Jong An. Does he.
• 34:33
  Speaker 14: Well, he believes, and I've spoken to him about this.
• 34:37
  Speaker 14: He believes that having a personal relationship with an adversary,
• 34:43
  Speaker 14: and listen, he knows who these people are. He knows
• 34:46
  Speaker 14: these are thugs and killers, and they oppress and repress
• 34:49
  Speaker 14: their own people, and they have interest in domination of
• 34:53
  Speaker 14: their regions, and she has an interest in dominating the world.
• 34:56
  Speaker 14: He gets all of that, he certainly understands, But what
• 35:03
  Speaker 14: he wants to achieve through a personal relationship, is be
• 35:08
  Speaker 14: able to move that person closer to an acceptable compromise.
• 35:12
  Speaker 14: He thinks the personal relationship assists you in doing that,
• 35:17
  Speaker 14: and he knows and I think this is what's been
• 35:20
  Speaker 14: holding him back. Once he drops the hammer on Putin,
• 35:24
  Speaker 14: which I think is likely to happen, then that relationship
• 35:28
  Speaker 14: is over and getting back to something like that may
• 35:31
  Speaker 14: even be delayed. And that's arguable that point or not,
• 35:36
  Speaker 14: but I think that's the basis for it. It's not
• 35:38
  Speaker 14: that he talks nice to them publicly. Privately, he knows
• 35:43
  Speaker 14: who they are and what they stand for, but he's
• 35:45
  Speaker 14: not going to go after them publicly and certainly go
• 35:49
  Speaker 14: after that character and their values and what they're doing
• 35:52
  Speaker 14: to their own people and other people. He shows he's
• 35:55
  Speaker 14: very familiar with the details of all of that. He
• 35:58
  Speaker 14: believes if he does, that is the relationship and the
• 36:01
  Speaker 14: ability to get that person to compromise. That is his
• 36:05
  Speaker 14: thought in terms of personal diplomacy in dealing with foreign adversaries.
• 36:09
  Speaker 14: It is different than most presidents we've had, but he
• 36:12
  Speaker 14: feels very strongly about it.
• 36:14
  Speaker 2: Great insights, General Jack Keane, thanks so much for joining
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: me tonight.
• 36:18
  Speaker 14: Yeah, great talking to you, Thank you well.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Coming up after the break, we have got to talk
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: about the lunacy happening in our federal Senate. You don't
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: want to miss what's coming up. My panel will join
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: me in just a moment. What on earth is going
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: on in our federal Senate? Is there something in the
• 36:37
  Speaker 2: tap order? Or are our senators required to have a
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: PhD in undergraduate theatrics and moral vanity? Take green Senator
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Nick McKim as an example. Yesterday he demanded Senator Jacintha
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: and Ampa jimber Price remove an Australian flag from around
• 36:52
  Speaker 2: her neck, insisting that if she didn't, he would drape
• 36:55
  Speaker 2: a Palestinian flag around his own neck.
• 36:58
  Speaker 6: If it's okay or Senator Nampa Jimber Price to wrap
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: herself in this flag, I would intend to wrap myself
• 37:05
  Speaker 6: in a Palestinian flag.
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: And earlier in the week, in a response to Senator
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: Pauline Hanson calling for biological definitions of male and female
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: to be enshrined in law, Senator McKim had this to
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: say about women who believe men identifying as women should
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: be excluded from female change rooms.
• 37:24
  Speaker 15: And Kimberly and their ilk what they actually are and
• 37:29
  Speaker 15: that is trans exclusionary right wing drop kicks t E
• 37:37
  Speaker 15: r d s. They're not turfs, they are turds.
• 37:44
  Speaker 2: I'm trying to work out how you call you stand
• 37:46
  Speaker 2: up in the Senate and you call women turds for
• 37:50
  Speaker 2: defending their own safety, and you're not sanctioned by your
• 37:54
  Speaker 2: fellow senators. And of course I can't talk about Senator
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: McKim without recalling this outburst regarding global warming two years ago,
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: a performance that never gets old, mainly because it never
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: grew up.
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: Shut your mouth, you can.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: Him people, Senate mc resume your sea socia paths like you,
• 38:15
  Speaker 5: Senator McKim.
• 38:16
  Speaker 15: I'm going to cop interjections from socia paths like Senator Canavan.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: I will.
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: And what they've got to answer for is death, disease, displacement, starvation,
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: people dying of first arable farming lands turning.
• 38:35
  Speaker 13: Into desert, and most likely billions of people dead.
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: By the end of this century, the collapse of the ecosystems.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Joining me now is Christy McSweeney from PR Council and
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: Sky News contributor James Bolt. Christy helped me understand what
• 38:54
  Speaker 2: on Earth is going on there. I mean, I don't
• 38:56
  Speaker 2: mean to pick on Senator Nick McKim. I could have
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: easily rolled out highlights reels from Senator Payment, Senator Thorpe,
• 39:02
  Speaker 2: Sena Hanson Young, Senator Jordan Steel, John Sentor Feruki. The
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: list goes on. But is it just me? I don't
• 39:08
  Speaker 2: remember having this many crazies in the Senate.
• 39:12
  Speaker 16: Well, as you know, James, when the Coalition was in government,
• 39:16
  Speaker 16: they changed the law so that it made it harder
• 39:20
  Speaker 16: to get elected to the Senate with a small quota.
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: Remember we had all.
• 39:24
  Speaker 16: These minor parties horse trading with each other to get
• 39:27
  Speaker 16: elected and they had tiny amounts of votes. And I
• 39:31
  Speaker 16: feel that you've spoken about Nick mckinm, but you've also
• 39:34
  Speaker 16: mentioned some other senators, Senator Payment and Senator Thorpe for example,
• 39:39
  Speaker 16: who have no choice but to engage in more and
• 39:42
  Speaker 16: more and more extreme behavior to build themselves a base
• 39:46
  Speaker 16: so they can up their personal vote, which hopefully they
• 39:50
  Speaker 16: are thinking gets them over that level that they need
• 39:54
  Speaker 16: to continue to be re elected. So it's sort of
• 39:57
  Speaker 16: the Americanization of Australian politics in a way. People are
• 40:00
  Speaker 16: pitching to a constituency that they need to get out
• 40:04
  Speaker 16: the vote, so to speak. Even if we have compulsory voting,
• 40:08
  Speaker 16: but they need those people to vote for them as
• 40:10
  Speaker 16: a core level of their base. The Greens, of course,
• 40:13
  Speaker 16: they're in this disillusioned battle thinking that they can win
• 40:17
  Speaker 16: votes back from Labor at the next election, even though
• 40:21
  Speaker 16: they lost a number of seats this election. So they
• 40:24
  Speaker 16: too are becoming more and more extreme, pitching to their
• 40:29
  Speaker 16: own constituency and hoping to drag those real left wing
• 40:33
  Speaker 16: voters away from Labor and back to Greens and build
• 40:36
  Speaker 16: that base. And they're obviously going for a youth based look.
• 40:40
  Speaker 16: It's not representative of what most people in Australia think
• 40:42
  Speaker 16: or what people think the Senate should do, but you
• 40:47
  Speaker 16: know that is the case of it, and people misguidingly
• 40:50
  Speaker 16: the Greens are still getting between eight and ten percent
• 40:52
  Speaker 16: of the vote in this country coming out with things
• 40:55
  Speaker 16: like that in the Senate.
• 40:56
  Speaker 2: Indeed, they are all right. Jijingping, Vladimir Putin and kimj
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Ung met in public for the first time yesterday, And
• 41:02
  Speaker 2: apart from plotting global domination, which let's be honest, is
• 41:05
  Speaker 2: just Wednesdays for these guys, what else could they have
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: possibly discussed. Well, apparently the three gentlemen were caught on
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: a hot mic chatting about how to live forever. Yes,
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: dictators swapping tips about eternal life. Take a listen.
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  Speaker 15: The leaders.
• 41:36
  Speaker 2: Dictators plotting eternal life while casually discussing discussing other people's organs.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: That is disgusting, especially when you're in China, where the
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: organs of executed prisoners are routinely harvested. Grow test the
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: one consolation I guess we have as these deskpops won't
• 41:50
  Speaker 2: live forever, but they're planning to James, is this just
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: a casual conversation or is this something more sinister.
• 41:56
  Speaker 17: I don't think there is a possibility of any conversation
• 41:59
  Speaker 17: between themi Putin and and the Chinese president being casual.
• 42:04
  Speaker 17: I don't think that's a word we can use to
• 42:05
  Speaker 17: describe it. But I'll tell you what, When dictators think
• 42:10
  Speaker 17: they're on the verge of dying, that's when they can
• 42:12
  Speaker 17: start doing some really, really bad things. So if these
• 42:15
  Speaker 17: two guys think that they can live forever, they're not
• 42:17
  Speaker 17: planning their legacy for the rest of the world, that
• 42:20
  Speaker 17: is somewhat relaxing, I guess in the grand scheme of
• 42:23
  Speaker 17: things that they could possibly be talking about.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: So yeah, I got to ask you Christy. I think
• 42:29
  Speaker 2: a sense of one's own mortality brings some humility. You
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: realize you're only here for a short time, and then
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: you'll answer to God for your deeds. Not much humility
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: among those three, and I suppose most of them wouldn't
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: be particularly keen to meet God either. Oh look, you couldn't. Actually.
• 42:44
  Speaker 16: If you thought dictators would have a conversation about anything,
• 42:48
  Speaker 16: and you had to guess what it would be, it
• 42:50
  Speaker 16: would be about how to live forever and how to
• 42:53
  Speaker 16: have some really weird ideas of what's medically possible and
• 42:58
  Speaker 16: what might keep them in power for longer and longer
• 43:01
  Speaker 16: and longer. We do not g he changed the constitution
• 43:05
  Speaker 16: so he could be in power for as many terms
• 43:07
  Speaker 16: as he liked. Don't forget Putin shows no signs of
• 43:10
  Speaker 16: going anywhere. The next natural step is to co op
• 43:14
  Speaker 16: to your country's medical and academic professions to figure out
• 43:19
  Speaker 16: how you can live together.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: It's unbelievable, isn't it.
• 43:21
  Speaker 16: You just wouldn't hear it in Western democracies at all.
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: Indeed, Christi McSweeney, James Bolt, thanks for your time. Well
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: coming up, The UK Deputy Prime Minister has found herself
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: in hot water after failing to pay her taxes across
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: to Tom Slater in the UK next welcome back to
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: the program. The UK Deputy Prime Minister Angela Rayner is
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: in hot water after admitting she didn't pay enough of
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: her taxes on a one point six million dollar home
• 43:48
  Speaker 2: that she bought. She's been arguing for weeks she did
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: nothing wrong, but now claims she received inaccurate financial advice. Hey,
• 43:56
  Speaker 2: we've all been there. She's reported to have saved more
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: than eighty thousand dollar in text on her South Coast apartment.
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: She's now facing calls to resign from other MPs, including
• 44:06
  Speaker 2: Nigel Farage.
• 44:07
  Speaker 18: Take a listen, fuck in the UK Big issues franchise arena,
• 44:11
  Speaker 18: You know about tax?
• 44:12
  Speaker 19: Do you feel?
• 44:12
  Speaker 18: Are you sympathetic towards her? She's trying to get the
• 44:15
  Speaker 18: sympathy card. I'm talking about her family. It's obviously it's
• 44:18
  Speaker 18: a bit emotional interview with broadcasters today, but she has
• 44:21
  Speaker 18: omitted wrongly avoiding money in tax.
• 44:24
  Speaker 13: Well, I'm sure if that had you know, if a
• 44:26
  Speaker 13: case like that was me, you'd all be demanded that
• 44:29
  Speaker 13: I resigned. I don't quite see how she's I just
• 44:31
  Speaker 13: don't see how she survives. This is the time the
• 44:33
  Speaker 13: police got involved. Well, it's not for me to comment,
• 44:36
  Speaker 13: but I think you know, the facts are all out
• 44:37
  Speaker 13: there in the open. She's admitted she's done it. It's
• 44:40
  Speaker 13: certainly an HMR C yes to begin with. I just
• 44:43
  Speaker 13: don't see how you survived us. So she's off to
• 44:46
  Speaker 13: resign this week, I think it's more likely than not.
• 44:50
  Speaker 2: Joining me from London a man up to date with
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: all of his Texas editor of Spiked Online, Tom Slater, Tom,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: there's definitely a double standard here. If this had happened
• 44:59
  Speaker 2: to Ferra, the Left would be up in arms trying
• 45:02
  Speaker 2: to get rid of him.
• 45:04
  Speaker 19: Oh no, absolutely, And where the hypocrisy and the double
• 45:07
  Speaker 19: standards reside is so clearly with Angela Rainer. I mean,
• 45:11
  Speaker 19: it wasn't that long ago that she was in opposition
• 45:13
  Speaker 19: going after prominent Tory ministers, people like the Dems are
• 45:17
  Speaker 19: Harvey over their tax affairs. Now that she was very
• 45:19
  Speaker 19: much on the other foot, I mean, she's claiming that
• 45:22
  Speaker 19: this is basically just poor advice that she received. Who
• 45:25
  Speaker 19: knows what the ins and outs of this actually are.
• 45:27
  Speaker 19: But when you're a labor government who had been going
• 45:29
  Speaker 19: after people with second homes as even talk about raising
• 45:33
  Speaker 19: various forms of property taxes in the next budget. To
• 45:35
  Speaker 19: have your deputy leader, the Deputy Prime Minister, be caught
• 45:39
  Speaker 19: out in this way, it just hammers home for many
• 45:41
  Speaker 19: people in this country. I think that this Labor government
• 45:44
  Speaker 19: it's one rule for them and it's one rule for
• 45:46
  Speaker 19: everyone else, and this is a particular problem for Labor.
• 45:48
  Speaker 19: I'm not sure if this sort of translates over to Australia,
• 45:51
  Speaker 19: but Angela Rayner, at the most prominent people in the
• 45:53
  Speaker 19: Labor Party, is the only one who basically kind of
• 45:55
  Speaker 19: has a pulse. As far as the public of concern,
• 45:57
  Speaker 19: She's seems a lot more relatable, whereas Starmer and our
• 46:01
  Speaker 19: Chancellor of rachel.
• 46:01
  Speaker 13: Reas very wooden.
• 46:02
  Speaker 19: So if she does go, which seems not unlikely at
• 46:05
  Speaker 19: this point, it would be a real problem for the
• 46:07
  Speaker 19: Labour Party in a way that if it was another
• 46:09
  Speaker 19: kind of ministry it wouldn't be.
• 46:10
  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm just excited to hear one of your politicians
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: has a pulse. You should try being over here now.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: The UK cosmetics chain Lush has shut down all of
• 46:19
  Speaker 2: its physical and online stores for one day to protest
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: starvation in Gaza. They say it's showing solidarity while the
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: Israeli government is preventing urgent humanitarian assistants from entering Gaza.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: That's a quote. Their website homepage now also read stop
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: starving Gaza and closed in solidarity. Israel, of course, have
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: denied starvation as taking place. They say aid is getting
• 46:42
  Speaker 2: through but not being distributed. Tom, what of these people
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: think they're achieving closing their store for one day?
• 46:49
  Speaker 19: Absolutely? I mean, when the final history of you know,
• 46:52
  Speaker 19: Israel and Palestine is written, do we really think there's
• 46:54
  Speaker 19: gonna be a chapter about upmarket soap manufacturer in the
• 46:58
  Speaker 19: United Kingdom closing for twenty four hours? I mean, it's
• 47:01
  Speaker 19: virtue signaling. It's so incredibly pompous, isn't it. What exactly
• 47:05
  Speaker 19: is it that they think this is going to achieve,
• 47:08
  Speaker 19: and also what it is that they're protesting about. I mean,
• 47:11
  Speaker 19: obviously the situation in Gaza is horrendous because of the
• 47:14
  Speaker 19: war that her mass started, But the idea that Israel
• 47:18
  Speaker 19: was engaged in starvation and genocide is something which is
• 47:21
  Speaker 19: obviously obviously nonsense. But I think this is a good
• 47:25
  Speaker 19: kind of barometer where sort of lovey, polite society opinion
• 47:29
  Speaker 19: is that this kind of brand, very much kind of catering,
• 47:32
  Speaker 19: so the kind of North London dinner party set. And
• 47:35
  Speaker 19: it's not surprising that they've wanted to go out of
• 47:38
  Speaker 19: their way to appear virtuous on this.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: Issue, the North London dinner party sit. I mean, do
• 47:43
  Speaker 2: they imagine that they're making a difference by not being
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: able to shop at their favorite store?
• 47:49
  Speaker 19: Well, this is the thing I think so much of
• 47:52
  Speaker 19: sort of polite society politics makes a lot more sense
• 47:54
  Speaker 19: when you realize the only thing they're trying to achieve
• 47:57
  Speaker 19: is to look good in front of their friends. As
• 47:59
  Speaker 19: soon as you realize that, a lot of what they're
• 48:01
  Speaker 19: up to makes a lot more sense.
• 48:03
  Speaker 2: Indeed, absolutely right, it's all about how you seem, not
• 48:06
  Speaker 2: about any difference. It's actually made Tom Slater always a
• 48:09
  Speaker 2: delight to talk with you. Sorry we didn't have much
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: time tonight, but thanks for joining me, appreciate it. Well
• 48:14
  Speaker 2: that's all I've got time for tonight. Thanks for your company.
• 48:18
  Speaker 2: Coming up now is Sharry Markson. Good Night, and have
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: a great weekend.