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10-15-26 Hour 2 - Chad Brown/Gabe Landeskog didn't defy physics/Oh, By the Way... · Moser, Lombardi and Kane

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  Speaker 2: First of all, welcome, Chad.
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  Speaker 5: Good to see you again. I want to get started
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  Speaker 5: with the game tonight, but more specifically, if you haven't
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  Speaker 5: heard or if you didn't hear Bo Nix's press conference
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  Speaker 5: from the other day, I'll just give you a little
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  Speaker 5: bit of it. This is him. It feels like he's
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  Speaker 5: talking to himself through the media.
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  Speaker 6: Listen.
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  Speaker 7: That's honestly, really, and truly the biggest battle right now
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  Speaker 7: is like want to be aggressive, want to be aggressive,
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  Speaker 7: want to be aggressive. And then you see stats and
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  Speaker 7: you're like, well, this team is causing the most turnovers
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  Speaker 7: in the league. And then you're like, okay, well, I
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  Speaker 7: can't put my team in a situation where I'm turning
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  Speaker 7: the football over and putting our defense in a bad spot,
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  Speaker 7: giving them a short field. And at the end of
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  Speaker 7: the day, it's like, who cares? You know, like, why
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  Speaker 7: would I go out there worried about throwing an interception?
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  Speaker 7: Why would I go out there trying to throw every
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  Speaker 7: football 50 yards down the field?
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  Speaker 5: Just play the play. It sounds like a therapy session.
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  Speaker 5: I play baseball. I've been in a slump. You just
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  Speaker 5: got to work your way out. But is there something
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  Speaker 5: that Sean Payton or the Broncos overall can do to
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  Speaker 5: help him get out of this rut?
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  Speaker 8: I'm not sure if there is. And good morning to
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  Speaker 8: you guys. For Bo Nix, he's in a tough spot
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  Speaker 8: because clearly he's listening to the outside noise and every coach,
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  Speaker 8: no matter what the sport, at some point they say,
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  Speaker 8: we got to block out the outside noise. And so
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  Speaker 8: for Bo Nix to, to, essentially allude to himself listening
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  Speaker 8: to that, and that's that conversation about being more aggressive
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  Speaker 8: and pushing the ball down on the field and attacking
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  Speaker 8: the defense, then that is counter to one of the
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  Speaker 8: reasons why Sean Payton loves or has loved in the past,
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  Speaker 8: at least in the past, loved Bo Nix. No sacks,
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  Speaker 8: no turnovers. That's why Russell Wilson was no longer here,
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  Speaker 8: because Russell Wilson turned the ball over and took way
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  Speaker 8: too many sacks. So if you're going to take one
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  Speaker 8: or the other, I think we'll take Bo Nix, But
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  Speaker 8: now we all have the criticism as the Broncos find
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  Speaker 8: themselves on the course of the season. They are negative
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  Speaker 8: 14 as far as points scored versus points allowed. They're 3-2,
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  Speaker 8: but Seattle's positive 32 as far as points allowed versus
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  Speaker 8: points scored. So it speaks to the inefficiency of this offense.
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  Speaker 8: It speaks to Bo Nix's lack of ability to push
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  Speaker 8: the ball down the field. So that sound bite from yesterday,
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  Speaker 8: I think, points it out perfectly. Bo Nix finds himself
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  Speaker 8: trapped between two worlds. the world of play it safe,
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  Speaker 8: be smart, be clean with the football, versus the outside
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  Speaker 8: noise that, heck, I'm even part of that noise. You've
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  Speaker 8: got to attack the defense, man. You're not going to
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  Speaker 8: be able to run the ball effectively unless you push
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  Speaker 8: the safeties back. You're not going to have anything intermediate
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  Speaker 8: down the field unless you attack the defense. So I'm
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  Speaker 8: not sure if there's something that Davis Webb or Sean
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  Speaker 8: Payton can do other than say the same thing that
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  Speaker 8: every coach has said to every team when the noise
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  Speaker 8: penetrates the locker room is, hey, man, you've got to
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  Speaker 8: block that out.
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  Speaker 4: We, laymen, see you, professional athletes, we image a fully
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  Speaker 4: confident human being, almost a superhero who is never vulnerable mentally.
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  Speaker 4: When a guy goes on a stage like he just
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  Speaker 4: did and expressed all of his vulnerabilities, how do you
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  Speaker 4: see that? I mean, were you nervous at any times
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  Speaker 4: when you were playing pro football?
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  Speaker 8: I was nervous every single game. I think you're supposed
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  Speaker 8: to be nervous before a game. otherwise you're not ready
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  Speaker 8: to play. If you can go into a game as
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  Speaker 8: cool and as calm as you would walking through King
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  Speaker 8: Soopers and picking up some chicken, then you're not in
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  Speaker 8: the right job anymore. You're supposed to be nervous.
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  Speaker 4: I get nervous doing that with that list.
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  Speaker 2: Trust me.
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  Speaker 4: That's a nerve-wracking situation more than you think.
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  Speaker 8: Well, we're not all married to the same person that
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  Speaker 8: you are, Vic. So some of us get a little
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  Speaker 8: bit more grace if we come home without the mustard.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, hey.
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  Speaker 8: When you have a lack of confidence or a lack
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  Speaker 8: of belief, I call that a mental injury. And it's
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  Speaker 8: just the same as a physical injury in that it
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  Speaker 8: takes time to recover from that. Once you allow that
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  Speaker 8: into your brain, just like a sprained ankle, you may
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  Speaker 8: be able to go back out on the field, but
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  Speaker 8: it still hurts and it still limits you. Bo Nix
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  Speaker 8: will be able to play football tonight. but he's going
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  Speaker 8: to be limited by what he can do because he's
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  Speaker 8: carrying around this lack of confidence and this lack of
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  Speaker 8: belief in himself. So it is going to crop up
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  Speaker 8: in moments of the game. It is going to show
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  Speaker 8: itself on a critical third down in this game tonight.
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  Speaker 8: And it may not be obvious to all of us,
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  Speaker 8: but those of us who play the game long enough,
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  Speaker 8: those of us who will see the opportunity that Bo
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  Speaker 8: has on a particular play and and he doesn't take
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  Speaker 8: it and seize the opportunity, we'll go, okay, there it goes.
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  Speaker 8: It's that lack of belief. It's that lack of confidence
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  Speaker 8: in himself showing up again tonight.
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  Speaker 3: Chad, we know that coaches have to coach players differently.
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  Speaker 3: Not every guy will respond to what works for this
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  Speaker 3: guy and so on and so forth. If you were
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  Speaker 3: Sean Payton, how would you handle, how would you have
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  Speaker 3: handled this week with Bo Nix and going into this
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  Speaker 3: game with Bo Nix?
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  Speaker 8: I think I would have a review of the entire
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  Speaker 8: season and show him the missed opportunities out there and
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  Speaker 8: have a discussion about that. What is it that held
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  Speaker 8: you back from throwing this particular football? Why did you
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  Speaker 8: bail out of the pocket here? What are you seeing?
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  Speaker 8: What can I convince you of that's going to make
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  Speaker 8: you more confident and more comfortable in those moments? Because
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  Speaker 8: I've always said to every football team that I've coached,
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  Speaker 8: obviously not as coached the same level as Sean Payton
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  Speaker 8: is when we, when it comes to game time, you
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  Speaker 8: should be believing in yourself because we worked all off
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  Speaker 8: season to put your body into shape. Then we worked
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  Speaker 8: all a training camp to put your mind at ease
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  Speaker 8: with what we're asking you to do. Then we've worked
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  Speaker 8: all week to put you in a position where you
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  Speaker 8: are comfortable with your body and your mind. Now, All
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  Speaker 8: you got to do right now is go out there
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  Speaker 8: and let it fly, man. Let it go. We've done
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  Speaker 8: all the work. We've given you all the tips. We've
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  Speaker 8: given you everything you need to be successful. I would
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  Speaker 8: not put you out there unless I was confident in
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  Speaker 8: your physical ability and the work that we've done as
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  Speaker 8: coaches to make you successful. And if you have some
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  Speaker 8: kind of doubts, they should not be about those things
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  Speaker 8: because we've put all those things to bed. The hay
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  Speaker 8: is in the barn. It is literally about you and
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  Speaker 8: I teaming up together and making it as successful of
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  Speaker 8: a night as possible. And so that opportunity for Sean
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  Speaker 8: Payton to say that to Bo Nix and to show
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  Speaker 8: him the tape of this is what it looks like
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  Speaker 8: when you let it fly. This is what it looks
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  Speaker 8: like when you don't. And what can I do to
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  Speaker 8: convince you to let it fly, my man? Let it go.
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  Speaker 5: out is with a running game, but I got a
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  Speaker 5: question for you, and I'll give you a couple points
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  Speaker 5: of reference.
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  Speaker 2: J.K.
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  Speaker 5: Dobbins, I feel like when he's healthy, he's a good back.
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  Speaker 5: But I have a concern, because there's an expiration date
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  Speaker 5: on running backs that is way earlier than it is
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  Speaker 5: a lot of other positions in football. Todd Gurley was
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  Speaker 5: out of the league by the time he was 27.
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  Speaker 5: DeMarco Murray was out of the league by the time
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  Speaker 5: he was 29.
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  Speaker 4: J.K.
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  Speaker 5: Dobbins is 28 years old. Do you think he's playing
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  Speaker 5: through an injury, or did he just kind of lose
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  Speaker 5: his step?
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  Speaker 8: I think he's playing through an injury. And I know
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  Speaker 8: the promise he made to local media, hey, it's football, man.
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  Speaker 8: And so to think somehow as a running back you
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  Speaker 8: were going to make it through, I know that was
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  Speaker 8: a point of emphasis for him. But some players, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 8: are just injury prone a bit, and maybe football's not
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  Speaker 8: for long for them. I didn't play for 15 years
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  Speaker 8: because I was tough. That was part of it, but
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  Speaker 8: also because I learned how to avoid injury. Keep your
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  Speaker 8: legs out of the ground near a pile. Make sure
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  Speaker 8: when you tackle somebody, rather than fall it on the ground,
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  Speaker 8: you roll and try to limit the impact. So all
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  Speaker 8: these little tricks that I learned from guys like Rod Woodson,
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  Speaker 8: who played 17 years and watching Marcus Allen play running
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  Speaker 8: back for as long as he did, Maybe J.K. Dobbins
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  Speaker 8: can watch some of these longtime players and pick up
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  Speaker 8: on some of those tips. But for right now, I
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  Speaker 8: don't think he's washed as a running back. I just
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  Speaker 8: think he's banged up, and it's not 100% right now.
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  Speaker 4: You're a former Seahawk. How would you characterize your time
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  Speaker 4: with the Hawks?
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  Speaker 8: It was an interesting eight years because I came there
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  Speaker 8: from the Pittsburgh Steelers. And as an example, one of
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  Speaker 8: my first games in Seattle– After the game, the wives
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  Speaker 8: are having their conversations in the family area of the stadium.
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  Speaker 8: And some of the wives are asking my wife, what
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  Speaker 8: are you guys going to do after the game? And
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  Speaker 8: my wife, Kristen, says, we're not going to do anything.
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  Speaker 8: We lost. Chad hates to lose. He's not going to
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  Speaker 8: want to go to dinner. He's going to want to
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  Speaker 8: go straight home. And one of the other wives turns
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  Speaker 8: to her and says, we lose all the time.
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  Speaker 2: You got to get used to that.
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  Speaker 8: And my wife was just disgusted. Because while she's not
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  Speaker 8: on the field playing, she went to CU, as I did,
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  Speaker 8: where we won a national championship. She just left Pittsburgh,
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  Speaker 8: as I did, where we played the Super Bowl and
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  Speaker 8: won four consecutive, back then, AFC Central titles. So her
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  Speaker 8: expectations were on the same level as mine. So I
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  Speaker 8: felt those eight years in Seattle were about pulling that
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  Speaker 8: organization together. to the level of success and standard that
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  Speaker 8: they operate with now. And so to be there as
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  Speaker 8: a coaching intern with Pete Carroll, to see the success
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  Speaker 8: they have now with Coach McDonald, all those things, I
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  Speaker 8: feel like I was kind of on the ground floor of,
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  Speaker 8: because while I was there for eight years and we
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  Speaker 8: went to the playoffs a couple of those years, I
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  Speaker 8: didn't win a single playoff game when I was there.
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  Speaker 8: But the year that I left and went to New England,
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  Speaker 8: that's the year they went to the Super Bowl with
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  Speaker 8: Mike Holmgren. So I felt as if I had- You
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  Speaker 8: were the problem. Yes, they needed to get rid of me.
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  Speaker 8: So I felt as if I had some kind of
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  Speaker 8: connection and responsibility towards the era of winning and success
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  Speaker 8: and standards of the organization that they operate with now.
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  Speaker 8: But it took a long time because you want everybody
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  Speaker 8: in the building to believe. You want the cook, the
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  Speaker 8: guy who paints the field, the woman who hands out
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  Speaker 8: the checks, the guy who cleans the locker room. You
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  Speaker 8: want a culture in that building where the players see
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  Speaker 8: expectations and standards every single day. And it took quite
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  Speaker 8: a while. I remember having a conversation with Dennis Erickson.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, man.
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  Speaker 8: You hand out this itinerary to us the day before
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  Speaker 8: the game, and it gives us all the time slots
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  Speaker 8: up until the game starts. And it says kickoff. It
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  Speaker 8: should say win. It shouldn't say kickoff. It should say win.
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  Speaker 8: And as small as a thing as that is, but
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  Speaker 8: as a player looks at that, yeah, at 7.30 we
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  Speaker 8: kick off. No, at 7.30 we win. And so it
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  Speaker 8: took a long time to touch each part of that
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  Speaker 8: organization and get it to where it is now.
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  Speaker 4: Moj, one quick one before you go. The last one
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  Speaker 4: from me. You come from a long line of great
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  Speaker 4: CU linebackers. I mean, starts with Chad Brown, Matt Russell,
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  Speaker 4: Greg Beeker, Ted Johnson. I'm talking the inside backers. I'm
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  Speaker 4: talking the inside backers. I'm talking guys that play that
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  Speaker 4: specific position, too. And you played outside, inside. You played
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  Speaker 4: a little bit of everywhere. Nate Landman the other night.
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  Speaker 4: On national television. He's called Landman, first of all.
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  Speaker 2: Landman. It's Landman.
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  Speaker 4: So, Chad, he punches the ball, and I've seen him
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  Speaker 4: do that on a couple occasions. How hard is that
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  Speaker 4: to pull off during the game? Did you ever get
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  Speaker 4: into the punch the ball routine when you were playing
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  Speaker 4: that position?
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  Speaker 8: I did not, and it's sad that that was not
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  Speaker 8: part of the football coaching lexicon, and it was not
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  Speaker 8: part of what we worked on every day. You got
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  Speaker 8: around the quarterback as a pass rusher. You tried to
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  Speaker 8: strip the ball from him. But the thoughts, the thinking of,
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  Speaker 8: I'm going to try to tackle this guy, but no,
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  Speaker 8: I'm actually going to punch the football out. That just
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  Speaker 8: simply wasn't in my mind space. My dad was a boxer.
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  Speaker 8: So we had a father and son set of boxing gloves,
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  Speaker 8: which seems like cruelty. But that's what my mom bought
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  Speaker 8: for Christmas one year. So I learned how to punch
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  Speaker 8: very early in my life, and I thought I had
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  Speaker 8: a pretty accurate punch. I wish I would have been
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  Speaker 8: taught I could do that to the football. I probably
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  Speaker 8: would have had a much more decorated career if I
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  Speaker 8: had been able to have that in my mind. I
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  Speaker 8: think the physical skill was there. It just wasn't in
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  Speaker 8: my mind. So these guys who do that now, whether
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  Speaker 8: it was the peanut punch, Charles Tillman with the Bears,
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  Speaker 8: Nate Landman now doing it with the Rams, it's such
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  Speaker 8: a defensive weapon. And it makes life so incredibly difficult
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  Speaker 8: for offensive players, particularly in contact zones.
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  Speaker 3: Last thing for me, Chad, I felt shame on Monday
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  Speaker 3: being whiny about the Broncos win. That sounds crazy, but
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  Speaker 3: I was whiny about it just because of the way
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  Speaker 3: they won and.
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  Speaker 2: The team that they beat is a crap team.
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  Speaker 3: What should I be feeling tomorrow no matter what the
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  Speaker 3: score looks like tonight in terms of a win? Should
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  Speaker 3: I feel good or should I be on this concerned
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  Speaker 3: train that I keep riding with the offensive situation?
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  Speaker 8: If we win tonight, we'll be 4-2.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 8: And we talked about these first six games and how
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  Speaker 8: difficult they were. And to look at 4-2 with a
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  Speaker 8: sour face, considering some of the difficulties and the level
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  Speaker 8: of some of these opponents, I think that would be
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  Speaker 8: the wrong attitude. Will there be things to correct if
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  Speaker 8: we win?
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  Speaker 2: Of course.
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  Speaker 8: There's after every single football game. But you certainly can
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  Speaker 8: have criticisms of the football team, this offense in particular,
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  Speaker 8: Bo Nix as well. But as we talked about a
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  Speaker 8: lot of times this year, there's a certain resiliency and
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  Speaker 8: mindset in this football team where they find ways to
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  Speaker 8: get it done. The Chargers give them four possessions in
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  Speaker 8: the fourth quarter that were all on the Chargers side
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  Speaker 8: of the field last week.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 8: Is that going to happen every week where the comeback
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  Speaker 8: is literally set up for you? It's probably not. But
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  Speaker 8: I've never apologized for a win, whether it It was
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  Speaker 8: on a fifth down game against Missouri. The weather was
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  Speaker 8: on a great call in the Orange Bowl against Vic's
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  Speaker 8: Fighting Irish. I don't apologize for wins. We found a
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  Speaker 8: way to get out there and get it done. And
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  Speaker 8: football is the bottom line, 100% winning business. Did you
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  Speaker 8: win or did you not? And yes, if the Broncos
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  Speaker 8: find a way to get it done, we'll find a
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  Speaker 8: way to work on all the issues next week, but
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  Speaker 8: we'll take the victory every damn time.
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  Speaker 5: One last thing, 30 seconds here, Chad. No Hufanga, no
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  Speaker 5: Pat Sertan tonight. What do you think the Broncos do
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  Speaker 5: to slow down JSN?
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  Speaker 8: Oh, man, that's going to be incredibly difficult because you
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  Speaker 8: also got Cooper Cup in there as well. Cooper Cup
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  Speaker 8: has lost some of his physical explosiveness, but he can
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  Speaker 8: certainly move the chains. So if they want to double
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  Speaker 8: Vance Joseph, JSN on third down, which would probably seem smart, well,
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  Speaker 8: then who are you going to put on Cooper Cup?
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  Speaker 8: So it's a two-headed monster for the Seahawks. I'm not
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  Speaker 8: sure there's enough strength and experience on the secondary for
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  Speaker 8: the Broncos to shut them both down all game.
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  Speaker 5: Chad Brown joins us every single Thursday. Always appreciate the time, Chad.
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  Speaker 5: Thank you, buddy.
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  Speaker 8: Thanks, guys. Have a good one.
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  Speaker 5: going back to the game from last night. I'm trying
• 16:50
  Speaker 5: to figure out, Moj, did we get some breaking news here?
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: I'm looking. Did we?
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so officially Arizona State has named Dave Haxtell as
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: their head coach.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: Okay, there you go.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: About 20 minutes ago. So where do the Avs go
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: from here? I think they have somebody in mind.
• 17:12
  Speaker 5: Within the organization?
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: I think they have somebody in mind. You can't just
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: say that?
• 17:18
  Speaker 4: Just say you can't say it.
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: I can't say it. Okay.
• 17:20
  Speaker 6: Okay.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: I know they have somebody in mind. I can't say
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: it's not my position.
• 17:24
  Speaker 2: I'll wait for the team to make it up.
• 17:25
  Speaker 4: I don't blame you one bit.
• 17:27
  Speaker 5: It's also, it's not like this was a surprise. This
• 17:30
  Speaker 5: has been going for a while.
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: I'm giving up the TV. I'm going to be on
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: the bench.
• 17:36
  Speaker 4: So what's your strategy for the power play?
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: Tell Post to go blank themselves.
• 17:42
  Speaker 5: That'll work. So Dave Haxtell is now gone.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Now, what?
• 17:51
  Speaker 5: The Avs, I would assume they make an announcement here
• 17:54
  Speaker 5: pretty soon after this has been made official.
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: Steven, by the way, I sent you that Landis Skog postgame.
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: I got him.
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: Oh, you got it. Well, how about that?
• 18:02
  Speaker 5: I don't know why you're giving me an attitude.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: Because I explained this morning, for those just joining the program,
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: this was an hour and about 20 minutes ago. It's
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: not physically, humanly possible for a human brain to work
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: fast enough to kick a puck off a ricochet off
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: a goalie. I mean, it happens in nanoseconds. The human
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: brain cannot comprehend that quickly, trying to kick a puck.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: It's physically impossible. Therefore, if it's physically impossible, then you
• 18:31
  Speaker 3: can't call it a distinct kicking motion that he's attempting.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: To do it.
• 18:34
  Speaker 5: Well, here's what Jared Bednar said after the game.
• 18:37
  Speaker 6: First one, offside, just a hair, as close as I've seen.
• 18:43
  Speaker 6: But I didn't love the... I mean, we can agree
• 18:45
  Speaker 6: to disagree. I just don't know. Like, Landy's skating on
• 18:49
  Speaker 6: the second one and puts his foot down and hits it.
• 18:52
  Speaker 6: I don't see a kicking motion there. You're allowed to
• 18:54
  Speaker 6: redirect it. You're allowed to skate without kicking it. I
• 18:58
  Speaker 6: would have liked that one to stand, but, you know,
• 19:01
  Speaker 6: the league saw it different.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Dumb.
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: It's dumb. It's dumb because goals are so hard to
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: come by, right? Goals are so joyous. And you take
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: away a goal... For something that is completely intent. How
• 19:20
  Speaker 4: do you measure that?
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: How do you gauge it? How do you get.
• 19:23
  Speaker 4: Inside Gabe's head if you don't know for sure it
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: should be allowed?
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: I've seen people kick. I ain't seen people kick like
• 19:32
  Speaker 5: that before. Now, you can say it kicked off the skate,
• 19:37
  Speaker 5: but did he try and kick it is a completely
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: different thing. And you can't say that when the call
• 19:44
  Speaker 5: on the ice is a goal, to overturn that, it
• 19:47
  Speaker 5: has to be indisputable evidence.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: To make an opposite call.
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: You can't say with certainty that he made the kicking motion.
• 19:58
  Speaker 2: He's on skates. His foot moved because he's on skates.
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: Would you like to hear from Gabe himself? Sure.
• 20:04
  Speaker 9: If you watch it in real speed, there's no chance
• 20:07
  Speaker 9: I can react to that and kick that, but.
• 20:10
  Speaker 8: Guys in Toronto make the call.
• 20:11
  Speaker 9: Not the first time they take one away, and probably
• 20:13
  Speaker 9: not the last one.
• 20:14
  Speaker 6: It's okay.
• 20:15
  Speaker 9: We'll move on. I get it, though. When you're watching
• 20:19
  Speaker 9: in slow-mo, it looks like a kick in motion, maybe.
• 20:21
  Speaker 9: But if you're watching in real time, I have it lifted.
• 20:25
  Speaker 9: My skate's lifted already, and I go to plant it
• 20:27
  Speaker 9: to skate.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: So that's what it is.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: And what it is is almost cursed. That's why I
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: think sometimes seeing replays in slow-mo is... It hurts the
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: cause more than helps. I completely agree. And I think
• 20:44
  Speaker 4: there should be a rule of thumb where I get it.
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: Slow-mo is a great feature for the television audience. Without it,
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: sports would not be the same. I totally get it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: But it's also butchered a lot of calls because of
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: the slow-mo nature because the game is not played that slowly.
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: It never has been. It's played at real speed.
• 21:04
  Speaker 3: In real time, you probably didn't even realize what the
• 21:06
  Speaker 3: heck had happened. Because it was so fast. The shot
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: was hard. The save was quick. Off of Landy, it
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: was and done. So it makes no sense to me.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: I can sit here and cry about it all morning.
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do that. What I can say
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: is you got to stop giving up shorthanded goals.
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: How did that happen?
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: You're about halfway. The Finnish kid picked it off at
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: the top of the zone and was off to the races.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Made a great play, by the way. And we were
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: talking about Heskinen's goal, Brett, you and I, when we
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: were watching it. I mean, he puts it into a
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: tiny window like this.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: Wedgie makes his push. It's right, you know, it was
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: a great shot. Dallas is a very, very good hockey club.
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: Give him one of these.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's exactly what you do. Then the kid buries
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: it shorthand, and it was a great play by him. Okay?
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: But, look, you got to point out of it. Then
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: this becomes a skills competition. You got to point out
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: of it. You had a double, triple doinker.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: And that's just the way it is.
• 22:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah, posts, disallowed goals, and that results in a shootout loss.
• 22:12
  Speaker 5: But you do get three out of four points against Dallas,
• 22:16
  Speaker 5: which I think you'd take any time you play them
• 22:18
  Speaker 5: two times. Yeah, it just felt like you deserved better
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: than what the result was.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I will say this, Vic. What's his face? What's his name? 96. Anyway,
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: that guy.
• 22:33
  Speaker 5: Miko Rantanen is his name.
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: Boy, the crowd booed him every time he touched the
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: puck last night. I mean, is.
• 22:41
  Speaker 3: That what we're doing from now on? I mean, is
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: that going to be a thing between now and the
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: end of time?
• 22:47
  Speaker 5: You know, I've been on this from the beginning.
• 22:51
  Speaker 4: I don't know. He's friends with the Avalanche players. He
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: went to dinner. Eric Johnson, EJ mentioned how he took Nate,
• 22:59
  Speaker 4: I believe, Gabe. They all went to dinner the night
• 23:01
  Speaker 4: before the first game. They're friends. I don't know. He
• 23:05
  Speaker 4: wants to play that role. I don't understand.
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: Can we address this one more time? What is your...
• 23:11
  Speaker 5: I mean, he is near the top of your list
• 23:15
  Speaker 5: of people who used to play here that no longer
• 23:17
  Speaker 5: play here that you cannot stand. I don't know where
• 23:20
  Speaker 5: he ranks amongst the Aranatos and Nurkiches of the world, but.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Nurkiches will and always will be number one. Okay. What
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: is the beef.
• 23:29
  Speaker 5: That you have?
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: Some people call him the moose.
• 23:31
  Speaker 5: With Miko Rantanen?
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: I don't have any beef with him at all.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: Oh, stop.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: What is it? You won't say his name. That's a skit.
• 23:39
  Speaker 5: People are booing him, and I still wonder, it's like,
• 23:44
  Speaker 5: I don't know exactly why people hate him.
• 23:46
  Speaker 4: They're booing him because he plays for Dallas. If he
• 23:48
  Speaker 4: played for Columbus, it wouldn't be as bad. But Dallas
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: is one of the chief rivals, that's why. He's playing
• 23:55
  Speaker 4: for Dallas.
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: He was traded to Carolina.
• 23:59
  Speaker 8: I know.
• 23:59
  Speaker 5: But if he was still playing in Carolina, does he
• 24:01
  Speaker 5: still get booed?
• 24:02
  Speaker 4: I don't think the intensity would be near what it is.
• 24:05
  Speaker 4: But you know what? He was on the ice when
• 24:09
  Speaker 4: you're up 2-0 in Dallas, and he helped win that
• 24:12
  Speaker 4: game for the Stars. And people don't like him here
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: because of that.
• 24:17
  Speaker 5: Such a kick in the junk.
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: So I get it, but at the same time I don't.
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: We've seen guys get... Do you remember how relentlessly Carmelo
• 24:29
  Speaker 4: Anthony got booed when he came here as a member
• 24:30
  Speaker 4: of the Portland Trailblazers during the playoffs?
• 24:33
  Speaker 2: Yep, sure do.
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: Carmelo I get, though. That one I understand. He looked
• 24:37
  Speaker 5: at you and said, I'm too good for you.
• 24:40
  Speaker 2: That's a different thing. Listen, I have no beef with
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: him whatsoever. I really don't.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: He and I had a wonderful conversation last season. In Dallas,
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: there's no issue whatsoever. And I'm just joking. I jokingly
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: say that.
• 24:54
  Speaker 4: He plays for Dallas, guys.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: He's a terrific player for an arch rival.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Okay, so that's part of it.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Number two, it's not my business on how a player
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: wants to be remembered or what matters most to a player.
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: In his career. Okay, speaking of.
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: What I'm trying to tell you, and again, because he
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: was moved, it allowed the Avs to do some other
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: things and get a couple of other plays a little
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: bit deeper, including trading for Brock Nelson, right?
• 25:22
  Speaker 6: Yes.
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: Good stuff. Okay, hang on.
• 25:24
  Speaker 5: Speaking of, this was really interesting to me yesterday. It's
• 25:30
  Speaker 5: something that, look, it doesn't really matter, but Kareem Jackson
• 25:35
  Speaker 5: signed a one-day deal with the Broncos to retire as
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: a Bronco. Is that surprising to you? Because it surprised me.
• 25:41
  Speaker 5: Majority of his career, what did he spend, like, nine,
• 25:44
  Speaker 5: ten years with the Texans?
• 25:47
  Speaker 4: That does surprise me.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Like, he was here.
• 25:50
  Speaker 5: He was a very, very well-liked Bronco.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: But I was surprised that he would choose here. You
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: know what I mean?
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: He was one of the most physical players we've seen
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: in a Broncos uniform in the last 25 years.
• 26:02
  Speaker 5: For sure. Like, old-school hitter.
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: Old-school hitter.
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: And he has suspensions and fines to show for it.
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: But I will regard him as a Texan.
• 26:12
  Speaker 3: It certainly feels that way, Vic, because he was there
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: for so long.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know why he decided to do that, but okay.
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: Look, it's one thing like Peyton Manning comes here, but
• 26:20
  Speaker 5: he went to two Super Bowls. He won one.
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: You know what I mean?
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: Felt a little bit different. I mean, do I have
• 26:27
  Speaker 5: these numbers wrong? He was in the league for 15 years.
• 26:30
  Speaker 5: So he played for the Texans from 2010 to 2018.
• 26:32
  Speaker 5: He had nine years. Played for the Broncos for.
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: Four and a half.
• 26:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, parts of five.
• 26:42
  Speaker 4: Yeah, it's different.
• 26:45
  Speaker 2: Hey, I didn't address this with Chad. But I say
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: that to.
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: Say, like, I think that's a big compliment to the
• 26:50
  Speaker 5: Broncos again. It's like how they make people feel welcome enough.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: You're right.
• 26:54
  Speaker 5: For a small portion of their, the smaller portion of
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: their career, they consider this their NFL home. I think
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: it's pretty cool.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: It is pretty cool.
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: And I hope that it's that way with a lot
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: of players who are currently on this roster eventually. I
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: didn't bring this up with Chad because I knew this
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: would make Vic's head fall off. Talking about laundry. I'm
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: the only guy in this program who talks about laundry, right?
• 27:17
  Speaker 3: But I'm really looking forward to.
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: Seeing these unis tonight.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: I mean, this is, Vic, this is AFC West 1978 stuff, bro.
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: This is going to be outstanding.
• 27:27
  Speaker 5: It's a pretty, yeah, it's pretty all the time. You
• 27:28
  Speaker 5: know what's... Uniform matchup.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: I'm pumped.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: I'm pumped about this game. I'm pumped for the Broncos.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: I just don't know why. I guess I could come
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: in tomorrow with my tail tucked between my legs.
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: And say, I was dumb. I'm so stupid.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I feel like they're going to have a good game tonight, man.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: You know what's cool about the uniforms? They're wearing the
• 27:48
  Speaker 4: throwbacks tonight, and it's perfect for national television.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: What's cool about it is this.
• 27:51
  Speaker 4: As you guys know, I'm working on this documentary featuring
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: the 77 Super Bowl Broncos team, the Orange Crush, the
• 27:57
  Speaker 4: original Orange Crush team. What's cool about these uniforms, we
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: all have nostalgia for those colors, that scheme. But the
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: modern player today who wasn't old enough to experience that,
• 28:11
  Speaker 4: who has no idea what this team was about, who
• 28:13
  Speaker 4: has no clue, they look at those uniforms and say, wow,
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: they love them more than we do. And that's what's
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: cool about it.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: The modern player, I mean, see how excited.
• 28:25
  Speaker 4: Pat Sertan was when he did that video wearing those uniforms?
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: They love them. They love them.
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I do too, man. I'm excited for the Broncos look.
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: This is going to be great. And I think we're
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: going to have ourselves a good football game.
• 28:38
  Speaker 5: So is the question just about like why they don't
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: have these as their permanent uniform? Is it just, is
• 28:45
  Speaker 5: it for merch sales? If that was their permanent uniform,
• 28:49
  Speaker 5: then people would just buy that one. But now you
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: can make them buy their regular home jersey and a
• 28:55
  Speaker 5: throwback jersey.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: You know what I mean?
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: Is that part of it?
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: Well, the NHL obviously does it.
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: Third jerseys and outdoor game jerseys and blah.
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: Blah, blah.
• 29:03
  Speaker 5: Well, I know, but that was the main uniform for
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: a long time.
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: You mean the one they're wearing tonight? Yes. Yes.
• 29:10
  Speaker 5: But they won't go back to it because if they
• 29:12
  Speaker 5: did that, then how the hell are you going to
• 29:13
  Speaker 5: sell anything that's not that?
• 29:15
  Speaker 3: You've got to have the angry-looking... And incidentally, the Seahawk,
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: he looks kind of angry on the old school uniform.
• 29:22
  Speaker 2: He's got kind of a frown. He's got like a
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: frowny beak. You know what?
• 29:27
  Speaker 5: Is that the worst thing that Pat Bowen did?
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: What's that? Change the unis? Just change the unis to these?
• 29:33
  Speaker 4: It resulted in Super Bowls, so it's hard to make
• 29:36
  Speaker 4: that assessment.
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: I don't know if the uniform did it.
• 29:38
  Speaker 4: There's a lot of Super Bowls. that goes into that.
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: You know, you could easily say don't change. Listen, you're
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: talking to the wrong guy here, okay, when you want
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: to say which uniform is better.
• 29:49
  Speaker 2: Look at me.
• 29:50
  Speaker 4: Look at me. Look at my face. You're always in
• 29:53
  Speaker 4: love with your childhood, okay? Whatever happened in your childhood
• 29:57
  Speaker 4: that evokes certain memories.
• 29:59
  Speaker 3: If you're an old man without a prostate, you're going
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: to go to that first.
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: Taking the D.
• 30:03
  Speaker 4: So, the old D. I mean, who doesn't like the
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: old D?
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: Everybody loves the D. The good old D. Everybody. The
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: old D is the more preferable D.
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: It absolutely is. I remember, and God bless Pat Bolin.
• 30:19
  Speaker 3: I liked him as a man. He was always very
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: nice to me whenever I had an interaction with him.
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: But I remember the day, Brett, that they had the
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: news conference to talk about the new uniforms. And he said, well,
• 30:32
  Speaker 3: they're still predominantly orange uniforms. It was hardly, I mean,
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: we're all just that navy blue, man.
• 30:38
  Speaker 4: To be honest with you, I don't mind the color
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: scheme because I'm colorblind. I don't care. I just wish
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: they had the old D.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: I don't like.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: This, like, fake angry horse thing. I prefer snot coming
• 30:54
  Speaker 4: out of the nose.
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: Horse.
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: I don't like the fake.
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:00
  Speaker 5: Computer generated. Why is your horse a T-Rex?
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: No, it's like, it's like this.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: I'm going to get you.
• 31:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah, computer-generated angry horse ain't the same as the horse.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: In the D going.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: The snot bubble. The snot bubble makes that.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, snot bubble. Anyway, that's all we'll talk about. I'm
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: going to get you.
• 31:18
  Speaker 3: That's all we'll talk about in terms of the laundry
• 31:21
  Speaker 3: for tonight. But there's a lot of things I'm looking
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: forward to about this game. That's one of them. For example,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: I could say the same thing about the Nuggets, right?
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: For me, the greatest Nuggets jersey of all time is
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Maxie the Miner.
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: It's not even close. And I know they're bringing back
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: the retro Houston... I'm sorry, Denver Rockets, Orange, back to
• 31:38
  Speaker 4: the ABA days. My preference is always going to be
• 31:41
  Speaker 4: Maxie the Miner. There's no greater mascot or logo than
• 31:44
  Speaker 4: Maxie the Miner.
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  Speaker 2: Ever. Ever in the history of ever.
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  Speaker 5: Wait, did they have a uniform with Maxie on it?
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Well, they had the pick.
• 31:57
  Speaker 2: The pick.
• 31:59
  Speaker 4: And Maxie wore the pick. Look up, uh, 19, go
• 32:08
  Speaker 4: to 1977. Denver Nuggets. Throw that jersey up there.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Show it to me.
• 32:15
  Speaker 4: Give me some love.
• 32:17
  Speaker 5: Oh, I see.
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Give me some love. Give me some love with David Thompson.
• 32:22
  Speaker 4: When Dan Issel joined the fray.
• 32:23
  Speaker 5: You like that more than the Skyline?
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: And I grew up with the Skyline. Skyline was the 80s, right?
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: That was pretty sick. Yeah, that was pretty sick.
• 32:31
  Speaker 4: But Maxie, Maxie's next level. Maxie's Yoda. To me, that's
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: Denver Nuggets basketball forever. Right there.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Reminder to you guys, the keyword for this hour, speaking
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: of the Nuggets, is friends. So text that in your
• 32:47
  Speaker 5: first and last name. There's a gold pan on the uniform.
• 32:51
  Speaker 5: The 303-504-0925. It's lower level tickets to the Nuggets home opener.
• 32:54
  Speaker 5: So text friends in your first and last name.
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: I also like the ultra tight shorts. Instead of the baggies.
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: Pass.
• 33:03
  Speaker 5: I want those, was it T.J. Ford that had shorts
• 33:05
  Speaker 5: that basically hit his ankles?
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: I want those.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: Remember the Fab Five shorts that went down the ankles?
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: All right, Nelly, while we're on it, just real quick,
• 33:13
  Speaker 5: go T.J. Ford shorts. I want to see this. It's
• 33:17
  Speaker 5: one of my favorite pictures.
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, look at this.
• 33:20
  Speaker 5: Look at T.J.
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: Ford, Texas legend. It's just ridiculous. It hits his ankles.
• 33:25
  Speaker 2: It's down to his ankles. How does he dribble between
• 33:28
  Speaker 2: his legs?
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: How does he cross over?
• 33:29
  Speaker 5: How does he do anything?
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: There is more fabric in the bottom half of that
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: uniform than all of the Utah Jazz uniforms 1986 combined.
• 33:38
  Speaker 5: You have that right, don't I? Wasn't T.J. Ford a Longhorn?
• 33:41
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I believe he was. Wasn't he?
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: You know, somebody brought up a good point, and I'm
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: not going to ever, ever. Listen to me. Listen to
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: my words. I'm never going to discredit Rocky, the mascot.
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: He's the greatest mascot ever. One of the greatest mascots
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: in sports history. But I've always wondered the origin. Why isn't, like,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: Maxie the Miner, the gold pan guy, the mascot? I
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: wonder when they went to the Lion. Like, who made
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: that call? Shouldn't it be a dude in a gold pan?
• 34:15
  Speaker 5: You want a guy, like, missing teeth?
• 34:17
  Speaker 7: Yeah.
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: Doing that thing, sifting through for gold.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: That's why this state exists. Dudes missing teeth, sifting through rivers.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: All right, Vic, I got an idea. You want a
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: side gig?
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: I can't grow a beard.
• 34:29
  Speaker 5: I'll get your teeth right. Bring your mouth over here.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Bam!
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: All right, 303-504-0925.
• 34:33
  Speaker 5: Jeff Legwald at 9 o'clock.
• 34:34
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• 34:40
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• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Bye. I'm sick of this alien crap. The.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Is this for your information? What's the name of this segment?
• 34:47
  Speaker 2: Wait. Oh, by the way. Oh, by the way.
• 34:48
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• 34:50
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• 35:09
  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, stories around sports in the world
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• 35:14
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• 35:15
  Speaker 5: a full preview. Let me start. The Broncos and Seahawks tonight.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Go ahead.
• 35:21
  Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, and this is a takeoff of
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: what we were talking about in the previous segment to
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: the origination of mascots. And again, I have no problem
• 35:29
  Speaker 4: with Rocky the mascot, one of the greatest of all time.
• 35:32
  Speaker 5: What I have a.
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: Problem with is, is how we in the city outsource
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: a lot of our ideas to other cities, other regions,
• 35:37
  Speaker 4: other people from other parts of the country come in
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: here and tell us what to do.
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: No.
• 35:41
  Speaker 4: Somebody on the text line says, the original character mascot
• 35:44
  Speaker 4: was designed by Tom Sapp, a mascot design company in
• 35:48
  Speaker 4: Atlanta who researched the Rocky Mountain region and settled on
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: a mountain lion named Rocky. Well, I don't need some
• 35:54
  Speaker 4: dude from Atlanta to tell me what we need as
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: a mascot. If they had simply asked me, what's the mascot?
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: I'd say something like, give me a pit bull from
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Commerce City named Essay. That should be our mascot.
• 36:07
  Speaker 6: Why?
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: Because that's Colorado. That's getting it.
• 36:12
  Speaker 5: That's it. Go ahead there, Moshe.
• 36:17
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, Jon Rahm is free. He's free-free.
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: He and Liv had an actual separation agreement in court yesterday.
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: He's forfeiting all future claims to live money. He is out,
• 36:29
  Speaker 3: and he's going to be back someday on the PGA.
• 36:33
  Speaker 2: Tour, I'm assuming, Vic. Who gets the kids?
• 36:35
  Speaker 3: How many more are following him once this goes through? Because,
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: you know, guys have filtered. But Rahm was a former
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: world number one, bro.
• 36:45
  Speaker 2: Good job, Vic. Thanks for the help there.
• 36:47
  Speaker 5: I'd say this. Jon Rahm, I just think, I've said
• 36:52
  Speaker 5: this before, I think what they should do Let all
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: the live guys back.
• 36:57
  Speaker 4: Not a big John Rahm guy. Doesn't move the needle.
• 36:59
  Speaker 4: I don't care.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: I think you let all the live guys back, and
• 37:03
  Speaker 5: you have an overall game that you play for the
• 37:06
  Speaker 5: rest of the PGA Tour season, which is PGA players
• 37:09
  Speaker 5: versus live players with some big prize at the end.
• 37:12
  Speaker 5: I think that's what they should do. Make drama out
• 37:16
  Speaker 5: of this.
• 37:17
  Speaker 8: Hmm.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: All right.
• 37:21
  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, The Texans GM, Nick Casario, went
• 37:28
  Speaker 5: on a local Houston station and said this about the
• 37:35
  Speaker 5: Marvin Harrison Jr. trade, that they initiated talks with the
• 37:37
  Speaker 5: Cardinals GM, Monty Ossenfort, a couple weeks ago. The deal
• 37:41
  Speaker 5: was finalized on Friday, but they delayed it at Ossenfort's request.
• 37:48
  Speaker 5: Casario was adamant that the outcome of the Titans game
• 37:51
  Speaker 5: had zero impact on the trade going through. Now, This
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: is all very weird to me. Why would you delay
• 37:58
  Speaker 5: the announcement? They already said that Marvin Harrison Jr. wasn't
• 38:00
  Speaker 5: going to play that weekend for this exact reason. He's
• 38:03
  Speaker 5: getting traded. You don't want him to get hurt, right?
• 38:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:07
  Speaker 5: It's the most bizarre thing. When Schefter tweeted out, Marvin
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: Harrison traded, and I was like, oh, to who? And
• 38:12
  Speaker 5: it's like, well, we don't really know yet.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: Well, but I guess they don't want any distraction around
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: their team when they're getting ready for a game that
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: we're adding this guy in.
• 38:21
  Speaker 2: But they, I don't know. Everybody knows.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: I don't know.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 38:24
  Speaker 5: What did they think that Marvin Harrison was a healthy
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: scratch for that week?
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: You know, the weird thing is, would you have given it?
• 38:31
  Speaker 5: Cause what was it? It was a second rounder and
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: like a sixth or something like that. If the Broncos
• 38:36
  Speaker 5: didn't have Jalen Waddle, if they didn't acquire him this
• 38:38
  Speaker 5: off season, would you trade a second and a sixth
• 38:40
  Speaker 5: for Marvin Harrison? Cause I don't think I would.
• 38:43
  Speaker 3: I don't.
• 38:44
  Speaker 2: He's been really disappointing. Really disappointing.
• 38:47
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 38:47
  Speaker 2: I don't think I would either.
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 38:49
  Speaker 4: He has to prove himself again.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: Oh, by the way, would you guys trade?
• 38:52
  Speaker 4: It's my turn.
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: Oh, you usually only have one. And you came storming
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: out of the gates. I just figured you were dry.
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: Oh, by the way, you see a little bit of
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: everything in high school football. And these kind of stories
• 39:03
  Speaker 4: emerge every year. And I love it when coaches like
• 39:07
  Speaker 4: this pay the price. High school coach in Oregon was
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: fired after a game. His team was up 63-0 in
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: the first half. And he was still throwing onside kicks
• 39:21
  Speaker 4: at the opposition to get the ball back. The opposing
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: team only had 16 players available to play in the game,
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: and they're throwing onside kicks at the opposing team up
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: 63 to nothing that coach was fired shortly after the
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: game what the hell are these people thinking What are
• 39:43
  Speaker 4: you doing?
• 39:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know what you're doing.
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: Who do you think you are that you can do
• 39:46
  Speaker 4: that and think you can get away with it?
• 39:48
  Speaker 2: I read the story.
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: If I'm a parent, if I'm a parent for the
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: team that's up 63-0, and my head coach is doing that,
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: how do you react?
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: Because I know how I would. I'd be embarrassed.
• 40:00
  Speaker 4: I would walk down the field and say, what the
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: hell are you doing?
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: The other team also only had 16 available players.
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: So, what's that? 17? Oh, you did say that.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: He did.
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: Oh, my bad. But anyway, shut up. How would you react, though?
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: Not if you're the opposing team, you're going to be livid.
• 40:19
  Speaker 4: But if you're on the team up, it'd be embarrassing.
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: And I don't want to hear this.
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: Oh, we'll just stop them.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 40:24
  Speaker 2: This is high school.
• 40:25
  Speaker 5: No school is different. I've always said it. If you
• 40:27
  Speaker 5: want to do that in college or the pros like
• 40:29
  Speaker 5: your big boys, you can handle it. High school and below. No, no. Oh,
• 40:35
  Speaker 5: by the way, Bradley Chubb. explains what happened between him
• 40:40
  Speaker 5: and Aleric Jackson that resulted in him getting punched in
• 40:42
  Speaker 5: the face after the Rams and Bills game. He said,
• 40:45
  Speaker 5: we're going to see y'all again. And when we do,
• 40:49
  Speaker 5: all that chipping ain't going to save you. That tight
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: ending guard's not going to save you. Then he walked
• 40:53
  Speaker 5: up and said, what'd you say? I said, the chip's
• 40:55
  Speaker 5: not going to save you. The guard's not going to
• 40:57
  Speaker 5: save you. Then boom, he hit me in the face.
• 41:00
  Speaker 5: It sounds like Aleric Jackson is being a little bit
• 41:05
  Speaker 5: of a baby. Now, should you be trash-talking after a game?
• 41:09
  Speaker 5: Probably not. The funniest part of that video, by the way,
• 41:11
  Speaker 5: if you guys go back and watch it, right as
• 41:13
  Speaker 5: Bradley Chubb's getting punched in the face, there's three guys,
• 41:16
  Speaker 5: two Bills and a Rams guy, that are doing a
• 41:18
  Speaker 5: jersey swap and posing for a picture.
• 41:21
  Speaker 2: And then they watch him get punched.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Oh!
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Oh, good game, good game. Good stuff. Oh, by the way,
• 41:28
  Speaker 2: would you trade for Shador Sanders? Question.
• 41:32
  Speaker 5: If I'm who?
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: Anybody. Even a quarterback.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: What if you're the Denver Broncos?
• 41:37
  Speaker 5: For what, a sixth or a seventh, maybe?
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: Well, for the first time in his life, he's hired
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: an agent ahead of the trade deadline in November because
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: as a player drafted in 2025, he can't start negotiating
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: a new contract with his team until after the 27th season.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: But people think he's doing it because he thinks that
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: a trade may be coming down the pike, that they're
• 42:00
  Speaker 3: just going to stay with Watson and that Shador will
• 42:03
  Speaker 3: be available. I would take a chance on him. I
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: think he's tremendously talented.
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: I really do. Yeah.
• 42:13
  Speaker 5: I mean, look, man. Part of me thinks.
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: Oh, what's the future of the Jets? It ain't Geno Smith.
• 42:19
  Speaker 5: No, I understand. Part of me is like, if he
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: couldn't win the job with all the turmoil that's in
• 42:24
  Speaker 5: Cleveland in this offseason, then what is the ability that
• 42:27
  Speaker 5: he has? Would I take a shot on it? Yeah,
• 42:30
  Speaker 5: for like a sixth or seventh round pick. if I
• 42:33
  Speaker 5: was really desperate for a quarterback, I'd kick the tires,
• 42:36
  Speaker 5: but I wouldn't have much expectation. You know what I mean?
• 42:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I did.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Did you guys see that Joe Aikman, Joe Aikman, Joe
• 42:44
  Speaker 5: Buck and Troy Aikman had tension, I guess, before the
• 42:51
  Speaker 5: Monday night football game because they were talking about how
• 42:54
  Speaker 5: Joe Buck got a new deal from ESPN over $ 100
• 42:57
  Speaker 5: million and Troy Aikman still has not gotten an offer. Now,
• 43:03
  Speaker 5: I guess this has been some tension between the two
• 43:05
  Speaker 5: for a while. You couldn't notice on the broadcast from
• 43:07
  Speaker 5: what I could tell. But it's got to be a
• 43:10
  Speaker 5: weird thing. I mean, they've been a tandem for a
• 43:13
  Speaker 5: long time. When one guy gets a deal and they
• 43:17
  Speaker 5: aren't giving the other guy an offer, you might be
• 43:19
  Speaker 5: thinking to yourself, what are you doing behind the scenes?
• 43:21
  Speaker 5: Are you telling them not to? What's going on here?
• 43:24
  Speaker 3: He just went on a Dallas radio station and he said, Vic,
• 43:27
  Speaker 3: I'm going to finish out the season. I'm going to
• 43:29
  Speaker 3: do the Superbowl and then I'm going to be a
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: free agent.
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: Yeah.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: Well, that's Troy's deal. I mean, I'm a big Joe
• 43:36
  Speaker 4: Buck fan and I, I, I think they're both, I
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: think they're both very good. So that's their business. But
• 43:42
  Speaker 4: you know, if Troy's mad that Joe signed a deal,
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: I mean, it's business. What's he not supposed to sign
• 43:49
  Speaker 4: a deal?
• 43:51
  Speaker 2: I agree.
• 43:52
  Speaker 4: What is that? Would he be in high school now?
• 43:54
  Speaker 5: The only thing I could think of is if Joe
• 43:56
  Speaker 5: Buck went to him when he was signing the deal saying,
• 43:58
  Speaker 5: I'll sign this, but I want a new partner. Then
• 44:00
  Speaker 5: that would be messed up. But I don't think that's
• 44:02
  Speaker 5: what's going on.
• 44:03
  Speaker 3: I'm fairly certain, though, that Pat Summerall and John Madden,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: they always signed the same deal forever.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: I'm fairly certain about that.
• 44:11
  Speaker 5: Oh, by the way, garage door making some crazy noise.
• 44:14
  Speaker 5: Don't ignore your garage door. Small problems lead to big problems.
• 44:18
  Speaker 5: Call Don's Garage Doors for a tune-up. today. So Jeff
• 44:22
  Speaker 5: Legwald is going to join us. We can talk a
• 44:23
  Speaker 5: little bit about the game last week, but mostly look
• 44:27
  Speaker 5: forward to tonight. Big game against the Seahawks. Jeff Legwald next.