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The MOST EVIL Place In ENGLAND_ The ELM GUEST HOUSE (London's _EPSTEIN Island_) _ Pure Evil Exposed · The conspiracy

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  Speaker 1: Today's episode will be censored by YouTube. And today's episode
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  Speaker 1: contains some of the most horrific stories I've ever discussed.
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  Speaker 1: And according to the British Government, none of what I'm
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  Speaker 1: about to tell you is real, none of it's true,
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  Speaker 1: none of this ever happened, even though I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: present you with evidence, proof, victim testimony, and so much more.
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  Speaker 1: This is the most mind bending, mind blowing episode that
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  Speaker 1: I've ever produced, and it involves a notorious home in
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  Speaker 1: England known as the elm Guesthouse, which is sort of
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  Speaker 1: like the Epstein Island of London. It's a place where
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  Speaker 1: the worst things humanly possible happened. Films obviously widespread, it
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  Speaker 1: was visited by VIPs in the British government and entertainment industry,
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  Speaker 1: and this story has much wider, much broader implications. So
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  Speaker 1: please buckle in get ready for today's episode because this
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  Speaker 1: is a truly twisted one. All facts presented in today's
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  Speaker 1: show can be independently verified by visiting the resources document
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  Speaker 1: in the description, and as always, all parties are presumed
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  Speaker 1: innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. With
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  Speaker 1: all that being said, let's get into this. Welcome to
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  Speaker 1: the conspiracy files. There are some places on Earth that
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  Speaker 1: God seems to have turned his back on, places so evil,
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  Speaker 1: so demented, that they would make you question the existence
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  Speaker 1: of a God in the first place. Venues where evil
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  Speaker 1: is allowed to thrive, places where the devil seems to
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  Speaker 1: have taken up a permanent residence, buildings where films are produced,
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  Speaker 1: homes in which children are routinely and houses where misery
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  Speaker 1: and pain stains the walls. One of those places in
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  Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties was the Elm Guesthouse in London, England,
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  Speaker 1: a home shrouded in mystery and conspiracy and the location
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  Speaker 1: of some of the most infamous and disturbing crimes against
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  Speaker 1: children in British history. But according to officials, nothing ever
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  Speaker 1: happened at the guest House. In fact, according to the
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  Speaker 1: authorities in England, none of the following information that I'm
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  Speaker 1: about to tell you is true. I'm lying to you.
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  Speaker 1: This is one big lie, but that itself is a lie.
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  Speaker 1: And today I'm going to be exposing some of the
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  Speaker 1: British government's darkest secrets, secrets that they do not want
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  Speaker 1: you to hear. Children with no family or family in
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  Speaker 1: a position to take care of them are some of
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  Speaker 1: the most vulnerable in society. Many rely on government funding
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  Speaker 1: and placement in foster care to survive. And while there
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  Speaker 1: are indeed many good foster care facilities and families out there,
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  Speaker 1: there are also many who submit those in their care
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  Speaker 1: to horrendous This is one of those stories, the story
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  Speaker 1: of the Elm Guesthouse and all the interconnected organizations and
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  Speaker 1: evil people involved with it. And it should be noted
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  Speaker 1: that some of the terminology in this story may differ
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  Speaker 1: from that commonly used in North America. For example, the
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  Speaker 1: phrase local authority care refers to children in the UK
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  Speaker 1: who are under the care of the government. There are
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  Speaker 1: other distinctions in this story, but we'll talk about them
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  Speaker 1: along the way. In the early part of the nineteen eighties,
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  Speaker 1: it's alleged that boys from the Grafton Close Children's Home,
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  Speaker 1: run by the Richmond Borough Council in southwest London were
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  Speaker 1: preyed upon by a ring that was operating out of
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  Speaker 1: a nearby location named the Guesthouse. The Young Guesthouse was
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  Speaker 1: a gay friendly establishment where it was said that underage
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  Speaker 1: boys from the Grafton Close Children's Home were brought to
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  Speaker 1: have relations with adult men. Underage were also said to
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  Speaker 1: frequent the home. It's of note to mention that the
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  Speaker 1: homosexual age of consent at this time in the UK
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  Speaker 1: was twenty one. This is higher than the heterosexual age
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  Speaker 1: of consent at the time. The perpetrators of these crimes
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  Speaker 1: were said to be important people. Some were said to
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  Speaker 1: be members of Parliament or MP's. There was a member
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  Speaker 1: of the royal family accused, a MI five officer, pop stars,
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  Speaker 1: a member of the National Front, members of sin Fein,
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  Speaker 1: and a Soviet spy, amongst others. Harun Casir from India
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  Speaker 1: and his wife Carol from Germany were the operators of
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  Speaker 1: elm Guesthouse at the time that our story takes place.
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  Speaker 1: It was advertised in the gay press as a place
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  Speaker 1: where homosexual men could meet. The newsletter for the Conservative
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  Speaker 1: Group for Homosexual Equality strongly recommended the guest house. This
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  Speaker 1: was a newsletter that was read by a lot apology
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  Speaker 1: Titians and powerful people. Neighbors of the guest house at
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  Speaker 1: the time thought that it was a brothel because people
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  Speaker 1: were constantly going in and out at all hours of
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  Speaker 1: the night. The guest house was raided in nineteen eighty
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  Speaker 1: two and the homeowners were charged with running a disorderly house.
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  Speaker 1: They were eventually convicted, fine and given suspended sentences. Any
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  Speaker 1: other charges related to that police raid were dropped. But
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  Speaker 1: before we get into all this information, we first need
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  Speaker 1: to provide a little bit of context. The Elm Guesthouse
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  Speaker 1: was a three story ed Wardian property located on Rocks
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  Speaker 1: Lane near Barnes Common in southwest London, which once featured
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  Speaker 1: eight guest rooms and amenities such as a sauna, a
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  Speaker 1: solarium and a video studio. It was advertised in those
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  Speaker 1: gay friendly publications at the time as being a place
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  Speaker 1: where homosexual members of society, who at the time were
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  Speaker 1: somewhat prosecuted across the globe for their sexual orientations, could
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  Speaker 1: let loose, be free and live life on their own terms.
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  Speaker 1: It was indeed a popular spot, and reservations at the
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  Speaker 1: Elm Guesthouse were sometimes hard to secure. Elm Guesthouse placed
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  Speaker 1: advertisements in specialist gay publications in the nineteen eighties, including
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  Speaker 1: like I Said that newsletter for the Conservative Group for
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  Speaker 1: Homosexual Equality. But interestingly, in that advertisement it stated the
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  Speaker 1: facilities include a sauna, selarium and video studio. They put
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  Speaker 1: it right there out in the open, so apparently from
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  Speaker 1: the surface, the Elm Guesthouse was a friendly, welcoming spot
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  Speaker 1: for people to come relax. At the official narrative that
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  Speaker 1: the government in the UK is still going with today,
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  Speaker 1: then the Elm Guesthouse was never anything more than that,
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  Speaker 1: a hotel for gay individuals where they could relax and unwind.
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  Speaker 1: Where it never took place. It was a building filled
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  Speaker 1: with sunshine, happiness and love. Nothing to see here, essentially,
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  Speaker 1: But researchers who have dived really deep into the story
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  Speaker 1: no that that's just not the case. Today the building
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  Speaker 1: has been converted into two bedroom apartments, with its current
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  Speaker 1: residents having no connection to the past allegations. For as
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  Speaker 1: you're going to see, throughout all of this, the British
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  Speaker 1: government has tried its hardest to distance itself from the
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  Speaker 1: allegations and firestorm that surrounded the Elm Guesthouse. They've almost
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  Speaker 1: tried to remove those words from the vernacular of the
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  Speaker 1: English language. They've tried their hardest to renovate the home,
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  Speaker 1: resell it and force society at large to move on.
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  Speaker 1: But as we know here on this channel, when there's smoke,
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  Speaker 1: there's fire, and the smoke surrounding the Elm Guesthouse was
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  Speaker 1: more like a massive sandstorm that completely blocked out the sun.
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  Speaker 1: This is the real story of the Elm Guesthouse. The
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  Speaker 1: story starts in June of nineteen eighty two when the
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  Speaker 1: property was raided by local authorities. So there were a
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  Speaker 1: couple things that led to this initial raid on the
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  Speaker 1: Elm Guesthouse. But the initial investigation began after a ten
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  Speaker 1: year old boy received medical care after he was and
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  Speaker 1: claimed that at the time he had been living inside
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  Speaker 1: of the Elm Guesthouse and had been by multiple older men.
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  Speaker 1: The allegations of it made by the child were confirmed
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  Speaker 1: by a medical exam, which indeed showed that he had
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  Speaker 1: been repeatedly over a prolonged period of time. The boy
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  Speaker 1: also stated to the authorities that he called one of
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  Speaker 1: his uncle Leon, and this person could have possibly been
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  Speaker 1: a politician. You'll understand this sing sgnificance of that name
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  Speaker 1: in a moment, and this allegation was one of the
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  Speaker 1: couple that really kicked this thing off. One major driving
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  Speaker 1: factor and imputus behind the raid was research and information
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  Speaker 1: that was gathered there while on the property inside of
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  Speaker 1: the guest house by two undercover officers from a local
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  Speaker 1: police department. You see in the late seventies and eighties,
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  Speaker 1: allegations had been made by multiple victims that they, as miners,
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  Speaker 1: had been by individuals while they were inside the Elm Guesthouse.
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  Speaker 1: At first, these reports were ignored, but eventually, for some
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  Speaker 1: reason or another, the authorities decided that they were actually
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  Speaker 1: going to do their jobs and investigate some of these claims.
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  Speaker 1: So they came up with a plan to gather information
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  Speaker 1: about just what exactly may have been going on at
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  Speaker 1: the guest House, which just reminds you again was a
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  Speaker 1: boutique hotel, health spot, and club that catered to homosexual men.
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  Speaker 1: Two male officers donned disguises, created cover stories, and went
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  Speaker 1: under cover to the guest house posing as a homosexual couple.
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  Speaker 1: According to testimony, at one point, while they were inside
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  Speaker 1: of the guest house, one of the officers claimed that
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  Speaker 1: they asked a staff member if children might be part
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  Speaker 1: of this offered there, and that answer from an employee
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  Speaker 1: of the Elm Guesthouse had been yes, children were a
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  Speaker 1: part of this offered at the home. This was enough
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  Speaker 1: information for them to get the paperwork pushed through to
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  Speaker 1: enact a raid on the property, but they weren't done
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  Speaker 1: gathering information yet. You see through conversations with other staff
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  Speaker 1: that they engaged in that evening. The undercover officers also
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  Speaker 1: discovered that a retired powerful judge acted as the house's
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  Speaker 1: legal advisor weird. After spending the night talking to the
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  Speaker 1: Predator members of the Elm Guesthouse that were in attendance
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  Speaker 1: that night, the officers were then formally invited to a
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  Speaker 1: sauna party the following week by one of the guest
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  Speaker 1: house associates. They were also told that around two hundred
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  Speaker 1: guests would be attending. This they thought would be huge.
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  Speaker 1: Here you had a house supposedly filled with prominent individuals
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  Speaker 1: who were pimping out and for their use at their
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  Speaker 1: parties and in the in house video studio, and now
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  Speaker 1: the two undercover officers had been invited to another guest
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  Speaker 1: gathering at the Predator Palace, a party with many more
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  Speaker 1: attendees and assumingly a lot of illegal things happening, And so,
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  Speaker 1: acting on this gathered intel, a date was set and
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  Speaker 1: a raid was planned by London authorities. On the evening
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  Speaker 1: of the bust, those same two undercover officers first showed
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  Speaker 1: up alone and entered the Elm guesthouse, wanting to confirm
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  Speaker 1: that there was a party going on and to scope
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  Speaker 1: out the interior and check out the exact situation that
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  Speaker 1: they were going to be dealing with. But things didn't
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  Speaker 1: go as planned. According to the authorities at the time.
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  Speaker 1: Throughout all these exchanges, one of the undercover officers had
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  Speaker 1: been wearing a fake cast to hide a wire tap
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  Speaker 1: recording device. They had wanted to capture these powerful people
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  Speaker 1: admitting to their crimes against children on an audio recording,
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  Speaker 1: and so on the evening of the raid, those two
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  Speaker 1: officers donned their disguises and their wire taps and knocked
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  Speaker 1: on the front door of the guest house. They were
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  Speaker 1: immediately met with a rockus scene. There was indeed a
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  Speaker 1: small party at the Elm guesthouse, and in attendance, according
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  Speaker 1: to these officers, were some recognizable individuals, individuals that would
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  Speaker 1: be known by the gener Republic. But at the very
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  Speaker 1: beginning of the evening, as they entered the home and
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  Speaker 1: began to take in their surroundings, the two undercover officers
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  Speaker 1: were greeted by one of the owners and operators of
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  Speaker 1: the hotel, a woman named, like we said before, Carol Cassir. Carol,
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  Speaker 1: recognizing the officers from the week before, began chatting the
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  Speaker 1: men up and at one point went in for a hug.
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  Speaker 1: But somehow this hug pulled the wrong wire and put
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  Speaker 1: pressure on the wrong spot, which caused the wiretap device
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  Speaker 1: to go a wall and begin making noise and playing
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  Speaker 1: police radio chatter out loud. Immediately, both the officer's eyes
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  Speaker 1: and Carroll's eyes grew wide, and at that moment Carol
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  Speaker 1: knew that the two were police officers, and the officers
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  Speaker 1: knew that they had been exposed. Immediately, the authorities waiting
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  Speaker 1: outside of the guest house sprung into action and the
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  Speaker 1: raid was executed with armed members of London Police busting
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  Speaker 1: in through the front doors and yelling at everyone to
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  Speaker 1: remain still now, Interestingly enough, to this day, we still
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  Speaker 1: don't know exactly what the authorities discovered inside of the
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  Speaker 1: Elm guesthouse that evening. We don't have a full list
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  Speaker 1: of the names of individuals that were found inside the hull,
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  Speaker 1: we don't have a list of the materials recovered, and
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  Speaker 1: to be honest, information in general regarding this raid is
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  Speaker 1: extremely sparse. There are barely any newspapers detailing this incident
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  Speaker 1: online and very few official reports. And in addition, the
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  Speaker 1: stories from the authorities about this raid and what happened
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  Speaker 1: Slash what they found that night have changed many many
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  Speaker 1: times since the original reporting. It seems like the police
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  Speaker 1: had stumbled into a den of darkness that they weren't
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  Speaker 1: meant to discover, and they were about to be silenced themselves.
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  Speaker 1: But we do know a few key details about the
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  Speaker 1: guest house and the raid, details that were gathered from
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  Speaker 1: newspaper reports at the time and some leaked documents and
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  Speaker 1: the testimonies of people that were involved. Following the raid,
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  Speaker 1: reports emerged claiming that visitors to the Elm guest House
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  Speaker 1: were provided with a menu offering sexual services, including the
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  Speaker 1: ability to purchase sex with boys as young as ten
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  Speaker 1: years old. According to testimony, the printed menu featured information
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  Speaker 1: about exactly which sex acts you could purchase, information about
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  Speaker 1: exactly who you could purchase those acts from, and prices
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  Speaker 1: for each Now, according to the quote official story, I
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  Speaker 1: use the word official because it's not official. It's just
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  Speaker 1: a lie, a cover up. Less than ten individuals were
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  Speaker 1: snagged in this sting at the guesthouse. However, we now
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  Speaker 1: know that there were in reality more men present inside
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  Speaker 1: of the Elm Guesthouse that evening and in fact that
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  Speaker 1: during the raid, twenty three different men were reportedly detained.
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  Speaker 1: Twenty three is a much higher number than less than ten.
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  Speaker 1: Why would the authorities lie about this? Were there are
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  Speaker 1: people inside of the house that they didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: document Seeing inside of there, well you'll see why soon.
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  Speaker 1: When the authorities searched the hotel slash home, they found
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  Speaker 1: what could only be described as a torture chamber. According
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  Speaker 1: to reports, the townhouse was described as having bedroom suites
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  Speaker 1: adorned with whips, chains and ropes, alongside communal areas featuring
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  Speaker 1: a lounge, bar, spa sauna, and a screening room for pornography.
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  Speaker 1: According to police sources, among the guests that were found
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  Speaker 1: inside of the elm guesthouse that evening were three parliamentary ministers,
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  Speaker 1: high ranking members of the British government, and a member
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  Speaker 1: of the Queen's royal staff. Interestingly, though, it seemed that
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  Speaker 1: just moments after the raid was finished, the authorities began
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  Speaker 1: to distance themselves from their own actions. They denied details
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  Speaker 1: that leaked to the press about the affair, They remained
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  Speaker 1: tight lipped about what they found inside of the home,
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  Speaker 1: and it really seemed like they just wanted the public
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  Speaker 1: to forget that they had even conducted a raid in
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  Speaker 1: the first place. Just take a look at this quote
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  Speaker 1: from the British newspaper News of the World from August eighth,
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  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two, just a month and a half after
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  Speaker 1: the initial raid. A Scotland yard official said it is
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  Speaker 1: just a routine investigation into a brothel, something that goes
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  Speaker 1: on all the time. But a source close to the
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  Speaker 1: investigation said, the top brass have ordered everything to be
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  Speaker 1: played down officially. We aren't saying anything at this stage.
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  Speaker 1: Every attempt is being made to make sure the names
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  Speaker 1: of the VIPs who have been using this place don't
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  Speaker 1: leak out. And with that the cover up had already
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  Speaker 1: begun before the affair had really ever started in the
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  Speaker 1: first place. In another newspaper article published on the same
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  Speaker 1: day as the previous article, the authorities flat out denied
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  Speaker 1: that anything out of the ordinary had been found during
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  Speaker 1: their routine check in at the Elm guesthouse. The article
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  Speaker 1: from the Sunday Times on August eighth, nineteen eighty two,
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  Speaker 1: states claims that a police investigation into an alleged homosexual
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  Speaker 1: brothel had revealed the possible security risk were denied yesterday
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  Speaker 1: by Scotland Yard. The Metropolitan Police confirmed that four people
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  Speaker 1: had been charged after allegations that gay sex was for
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  Speaker 1: sale at a London suburban guesthouse. The Daily Express reported
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  Speaker 1: yesterday that at least thirty men prominent in public life,
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  Speaker 1: including three MP's, were believed to have been named after
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  Speaker 1: undercover inquiries, and that security officials were called in, but
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  Speaker 1: the Yard said yesterday that the Special Branch, which is
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  Speaker 1: automatically called in whenever questions of security arise, was not
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  Speaker 1: taking part in inquiries, as author Simon Dovey claims in
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  Speaker 1: his book The Eye of the Chickenhawk, which by the ways,
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  Speaker 1: a book I highly recommend everybody read. I really want
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  Speaker 1: to get Simon on this show soon. He provided a
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  Speaker 1: lot of great evidence that I used in this script,
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  Speaker 1: so thank you so much, Simon. This cycle of infrom
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  Speaker 1: being released and then subsequently denied by the authorities can
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  Speaker 1: be explained on page one seventeen of I of the Chickenhawk.
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  Speaker 1: Dovey wrights the mixed reporting appears to be the result
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  Speaker 1: of a pretty common phenomenon. Law enforcement officers at the
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  Speaker 1: operational level of an investigation leak information to the press,
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  Speaker 1: which is then subsequently denied in official statements given by
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  Speaker 1: their administrative superiors who have to deal with the political
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  Speaker 1: ramifications now. Interestingly enough, after this initial raid, the owners
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  Speaker 1: of the Elm Guesthouse, Harun and Carol Cassir, were officially
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  Speaker 1: charged for keeping a disorderly house and for the possession
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  Speaker 1: of pornography. However, later on, the charge for the possession
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  Speaker 1: of CP. By the way, I'm going to shorten that phrase,
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  Speaker 1: those words that I just said before into CP to
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  Speaker 1: avoid censorship, so you know what I'm saying when I
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  Speaker 1: say CP was dropped by the authorities after a total
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  Speaker 1: of seven hours seven hours of video footage that was
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  Speaker 1: discovered and seized from the premises of the Elm Guesthouse
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  Speaker 1: was ruled as inadmissible. In court document from the time
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  Speaker 1: states by agreement with the defense lawyers, the prosecution has
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  Speaker 1: slashed eight hours of videos that were to be shown
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  Speaker 1: to the court to just forty five minutes. The judge
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  Speaker 1: made in order forbidding the press to say anything which
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  Speaker 1: might identify the child in the case. Reporting restrictions were
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  Speaker 1: not lifted immediately. That's incredibly bizarre. Here we have the
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  Speaker 1: authorities admitting to the fact that they had uncovered hours
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  Speaker 1: and hours of CP materials inside of the Elm Guesthouse,
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  Speaker 1: and yet they refused to prosecute the people who were
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  Speaker 1: officially in possession of it, and refused to do really
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  Speaker 1: anything about it at all. It's as if they found
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  Speaker 1: the CP, took one look at all the material and
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  Speaker 1: then threw it in the trash and moved on. I
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  Speaker 1: do find it interesting that if a normal citizen is
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  Speaker 1: found to be in possession of materials like these, they're
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  Speaker 1: immediately arrested, added to a sex offender registry, and their
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  Speaker 1: lives are forever changed. But why did the charges against
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  Speaker 1: Carol and Harun get thrown out? Could they have had
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  Speaker 1: powerful friends protecting them? Were they just the tip of
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  Speaker 1: the iceberg? You'll see soon enough. Now we have to
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  Speaker 1: move forward to the next year, nineteen eighty three, the
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: year after the initial raid of the Elm Guesthouse in
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two. In nineteen eighty three, a Tory MP
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: or a British politician named Jeffrey Dickens, put together a
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: list of names based on what he was hearing about
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: what really happened at the Elm Guesthouse. Jeffrey, as it
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: turned out, knew some things and had access to materials
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: that weren't public information at the time, and had concluded
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: that the predator ring rumored to be in operation at
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: the time at the guest House was indeed very real,
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: was very dangerous, and that something had to be done
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: to stop these monsters from victimizing children. Jeffrey stated at
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the time that the list he was compiling would blow
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: the lid off and expose a ring consisting of powerful
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: and famous child predators that had infiltrated the British government
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: and entertainment industry. After working on the list, gathering information
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: and compiling evidence, the list was then given to the
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: Home Secretary at the time, Leon Britton. Remember the name Leon.
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: He's going to come up a few more times in
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: our story to put this into perspective for American audiences.
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: The Home Secretary in England, Leon Britton's position is a
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: very powerful figure in the British government and is in
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: a role equivalent to that of the US Attorney General
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: or Secretary of Homeland Security. At the time that this
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: list was received, Home Secretary Leon Britten acknowledged receiving the
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: list by sending a letter to Jeffrey, the man who
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: created the list suggesting that the police had been informed
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: and that the list was being passed on to the
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: proper authorities. So to Jeffrey, who made the list, it
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: seemed like it was going well. He had compiled this list,
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: gathered all this information, handed it over to the top
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: cop in England. He had sent him a letter saying
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: we're passing this on to the right people and we're
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: going to get justice for these kids. And a newspaper
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: report published in The Red Deer Advocate on August twenty fifth,
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty three, confirms list, stating several public figures have
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: been named in a Scotland yard dossier on child, a
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: member of British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's Conservative Party said Wednesday.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dickens, a campaigner against cp said in a radio
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: interview that he has compiled a list of names and
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: plans to disclose them in Parliament. The Office of the
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: Director of Public Prosecutions confirmed it is stifle udying a
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: report on a police inquiry into a group called Information Exchange.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: Interior Minister Leon Britton has ordered a copy of the
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: report by Friday, his officials said. Jeffrey Dickens said the
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: Scotland Yard report, like his own dossier, contains the names
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: of a number of top people in public life and
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: show business. Another newspaper article published at the time confirming
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: this information stated British Home Secretary Leon Britten is studying
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: allegations of a homosexual vice ring in Buckingham Palace, a
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: government spokesman said Friday, the allegations came from MP Jeffrey Dickens,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: who compiled a massive dossier alleging that young males who
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: joined the palace staff as footmen, cooks or servants are
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: being dragged into a web of vice, weiss and everything,
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: essentially meaning a predator ring. However, this wasn't the case.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: Nothing happened and the list was never mentioned or seen again. Yes,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: you heard that correctly. The list of prominent individuals that
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: were involved in this predator ring that was given directly
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: to the Home Secretary of the UK vanished into thin
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: air and to this day it's never been located. In fact,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, when interest in this affair was reinvigorated,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Dickens's list and the evidence in files that went
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: along with it were looked for again and were again
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: not found. Another look for the files was ordered again
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen by Prime Minister David Cameron, but the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Dickens list just so happened to be only one of
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen files that officials could not find.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: It seems as though after the list was handed over
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: to the Home Secretary Leon Britton, it was either hidden, destroyed,
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: or tossed to the wind, never to be seen again.
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Strange and Jeffrey Dickens himself, the guy who wrote that
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: list and put in all the work to compile that information,
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: talk to victims, you know, list names and find information.
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Shortly after having his name published in news sources as
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: being the predator ring whistleblower, he began receiving threats. In fact,
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: it was just a short time after Jeffrey first handed
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the dossier over in August of nineteen eighty three, when
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: anonymous death threats began arriving on his answering machine end
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: in his mailbox. In addition, his home was burglarized multiple
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: times by unknown assailants, people who broke into his residence
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: in the middle of the night or in the broad daylight,
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: seemingly in an attempt to send some sort of a message.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: It should be noted that even though these people were
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: breaking into Jeffrey's home, they were never stealing anything, so
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: something to think about. A short while later, a notebook
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: was discovered by the authorities, a notebook that belonged to
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a man that at the time was an on the
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: run fugitive wanted for a triple murder named Arthur Hutchinson.
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: When Arthur's notebook was examined by authorities, Jeffrey Dickens's name
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: and other personal details, including his home address, were found
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: scribbled on a lonesome page in the notebook. Taking this
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: as a credible threat against Jeffrey's life. After this discovery,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: a security detail was placed on him for a number
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: of weeks until Arthur Hutchinson was eventually apprehended. So did
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: somebody give Jeffrey Dickens his name and information to this
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: wanted murderer in an effort to have him killed and
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: taken out? I know, it's pretty weird, though it seemed
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that at the time, trying to expose this predator had
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: landed MP Jeffrey Dickens on a hit list and things
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: were about to get so much messier. In nineteen ninety,
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: new information was brought to the attention of the general
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: public through the investigation into the death of the Elm
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Guesthouse's former owner, Carol Casier. Remember Carol, the woman who
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: was running the Elm Guesthouse at the time of the
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: first police raid, who hugged the officer and set off
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: his recording device while she was found dead in nineteen ninety.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: She had allegedly her own life with insulin. Carrol, like myself,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: was a diabetic and according to the authorities, one day
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: she decided she had had enough of life and injected
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: herself with a massive dose of insulin, laid down in
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: her bed, went to sleep, and never woke up. However,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: files released almost thirty years later in twenty seventeen cast
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: doubt on this official story. According to this article published
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: in The Daily Mirror, pathologist Richard Shepard said Carol's death
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: was not due to natural causes, noting her profound low
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: blood sugar was consistent with excessive injected insulin. One abnormality
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: raised in the files is as a decision by the
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: poison unit at the New Cross Hospital in London not
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: to analyze the syringes and vials found next to her
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: body to see if they were connected to her death,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: or to check her stomach contents. Experts say this should
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: have been normal practice in a toxicology report. The article
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: also talked about how those in Carol's life, including her
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: own doctor who she had been seeing for fourteen years,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: were completely dumbfounded by her decision to end her own life.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: In the article, Carrol's former doctor, a man named David Walker, stated,
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: when there are marital difficulties, you see the patient in
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: a depressed light. Sometimes she was cheerful and friendly. I
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: would not expect her to commit blank but regardless of
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: the mystery surrounding her own death. After Carol died in
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, an individual from the National Association of Young
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: People in Care or NAYPIC named Mary Moss called for
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: a criminal investigation into the events at the Elm Guesthouse.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: And Mary Moss was about to blow this whole thing
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: wide open. For years, Mary Moss had been working with underprivileged,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: abused youths to try help rehabilitate them and help them
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: get over their struggles. And it was through her work
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: and her work associations that Mary had become acquainted with
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: children who had allegedly been victimized at the Elm Guesthouse
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: and eventually Carol Cassier, the Elm Guesthouse's previous owner. During
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: the subsequent investigation after oath, Mary Moss testified and told
• 24:18
  Speaker 1: the authorities that Carol had told her in nineteen eighty nine,
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: the year before her self unliving, that she was still
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: in possession of proof of the events that occurred at
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: the Elm Guesthouse. Mary even stated that Carol had showed
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: her some of these CP images that she had kept,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: which depicted recognizable members of the British government posing with children.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: According to Mary, Carol in total had claimed that she
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: was in possession of photos and videos of various visitors
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: to the Elm Guesthouse, one of whom was a bishop.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: Mary also testified that the Elm Guesthouse was being supplied
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: children by a number of foster homes and care homes
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: in the London area, including an organization known as the
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: Grafton Close Children's Home. According to a newspaper report at
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the time I'm published on August tenth, nineteen ninety in
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: the Surrey Comment speaking of the Grafton Close Children's Home quote,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: it was alleged the home run by Richmond Council supplied
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: boys under the age of fourteen to the Gay guest
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: House or the Elm Guesthouse during the early nineteen eighties,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: said to be frequented often by top MP's and judges.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: But how exactly did kids from Grafton Close end up
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: at the Elm Guesthouse well. According to Mary Moss, Carol
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: Cassir had been involved with a group of pornographers that
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: were linked to the Grafton Close Children's Home management and
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: had been in fear for her life in the days,
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: weeks and months leading up to her random death. During
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: this inquest, it was revealed that an ex boyfriend of
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Carol's had also claimed that she had told him that
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: she had several photographs of VIPs at the guesthouse committing
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: various acts with underage boys, including photos of Cyril Smith,
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: a politician that we'll talk about in a moment. According
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: to the ex boyfriend, Carol had said that she was
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: offered twenty thousand pounds by somebody for the photographs, but
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: she thought that they were worth more. The photographs were
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: said to be locked up in a safety deposit box
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: at one of the Royal Bank of Scotland branches. But
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: just like always in these stories, that safety deposit box
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: was never located and the photographs in question were never recovered.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: There was also a man named Christopher Fay who appeared
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: during the investigation proceedings alongside Mary Moss, the whistleblower, who
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: claimed that Carroll had showed him evidence of the predator
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: Ring's existence as well. According to a newspaper report at
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: the time, Christopher stated that Carol had personally shown him
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: a photo of quote a former Tory cabot minister in
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: Asana with naked boys and that quote a bishop, a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: High Court judge, social services director and top businessmen were
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: also among those captured on video at the hotel end quote.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: Interestingly enough, it would eventually be revealed that the cabinet
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: minister in question who allegedly appeared in that photograph with
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: the nude underaged boy was none other than Leon Britton,
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: the Home secretary to whom Jeffrey Dickens had turned over
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: the list of names in nineteen eighty three. Yes, you
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: heard that correctly. The man who had been trusted to
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: uphold the law in England, who had received the dossier
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: exposing the alleged predator ring, had allegedly been a member
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: of that ring the entire time. A newspaper report from
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the time describing Christopher Fay's allegation stated, quote Fay now
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: sixty nine, claimed on oath that Britain had been involved
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: in abuse, and that in May nineteen ninety he had
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: seen a photograph of the former Tory politician in a
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: French maid's uniform with a young boy end quotes. But
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: this wasn't leon Britton's first brush with the law in
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: regards to crimes against children. Later on in the year
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, decades after the elm Guesthouse raid, a customs
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: official named Marjanio Solanki told detectives that he stopped Leon
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: Britton at the port of Dover in the late nineteen
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: eighties on a routine check of his luggage, and when
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: his items had been inspected, it was discovered, according to
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: this agent, that Leon Britton had been attempting to travel
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: into the United Kingdom from Amsterdam with CP in the
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: trunk of his car. The Telegraph published an article about
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: this incident on July fourth, twenty fourteen, that stated, quote,
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: a senior Tory politician said to be part of a
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: was allegedly stopped by a customs officer with CP videos
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: but got off scott free. Police have been told the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: former MP was driving back to the UK via Dover
• 28:17
  Speaker 1: when a customs officer pulled him over because he was
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: acting suspiciously. The border guard, who was now retired, has
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: told detectives that when he searched the MP's car he
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: found videotapes of children clearly under the age of twelve
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: taking part in acts. He passed the material on to
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: his superiors, but the MP was never arrested or charged.
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Also remember that young ten year old boy that started
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: off this whole affair at the beginning, who told the
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: authorities that one of the perpetrators who had victimized him
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: was a man who he nicknamed Uncle Leon, that he
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: believed could have been a politician. Could Uncle Leon have
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: been Leon Britten? I'll just leave that there for you
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: to decide. Another parliamentary minister named during this investigation by
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Mary and Chris was an infamy former member of the
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: British Parliament named Cyril Smith. Cyril was a boisterous, large
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: man who had been involved in British politics for most
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: of his life at the time of his death. Just
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: like with Jimmy Saville. Cyril Smith was held in somewhat
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: high regard by most of the British public, but shortly
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: after he passed on September third, twenty ten, information would
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: come to light that showed that throughout his entire life,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Cyril Smith had been a violent abuser and a hardcore
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: child predator. As it turned out, Cyril Smith, a prominent
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: British politician and former MP for the Rockdale district, had
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: faced widespread allegations of child's banning decades, many of which
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: emerged after his death in twenty ten. You see, as
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: far back as the nineteen sixties and seventies, Cyril Smith
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: was accused of physically and young boys at hostels and
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: care homes, often under the guise of disciplinary action or
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: impromptu medical examinations. Police investigations into the allegations occurred in
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy, nineteen ninety eight, nineteen ninety nine after Cyril
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: had been accused by children of but for some reason,
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: Cyril Smith was never prosecuted. Reports of the time of
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: each set of allegations suggested that Cyril's influence and connections
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: to powerful figures allowed him to escape justice time and
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: time again. It seemed as though he was protected and
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: these allegations were dark. Some of Cyril's victims alleged that
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: he had subjected them to severe physical, mental, and including
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: beatings and with one boy claiming that he was by
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: Cyril Smith so hard that he lost some of his
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: teeth and required stitches. Later investigations revealed that the police
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: and Crown Prosecution Service decisions not to charge Smith were
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: influenced by political and institutional pressures. People in the upper
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: echelons of the British government had stepped in every single
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: time that these allegations had been made, had silenced the
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: victims and ensured that their favorite predator, politician Cyril Smith,
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: was allowed to walk through and abuse whomever he liked.
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: In fact, in the nineteen eighties, Cyril Smith was found
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: to be in possession of CP, but as you can
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: probably guess by now, he was never charged with a
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: crime and he was allowed to walk free. There's actually
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: an interesting anecdote about this arrest that I found online.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: You see, after he was reportedly arrested for the possession
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: of CP, an independent investigation into the incident by a
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: journalist named Donald Hale turned up evidence that showed that
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: Cyril Smith himself, after being arrested and booked into the
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: local jail, had made a mysterious phone call while in custody,
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: and soon afterwards, I'm talking like an hour or two
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: after this phone call, the officers came into the room,
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: uncuffed him, let him out of the jail, and never
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: filed charges. It was later found out, though, that the
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: people who intervened in that whole affair, who stepped in
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: and told the local officers you have to let him
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: go and not charge him, was MI I five. MI
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: I five being the British equivalent of the CIA. So
• 31:55
  Speaker 1: you got MI five stepping in, messing with investigations and
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: telling local police departments that they need to open up
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: the doors and let the child predators out. For some reason,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: I feel like I've heard this story before, HM weird.
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: In the twenty tens, after Cyril's death, renewed scrutiny led
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: to further allegations of abuse at Rockdale's noul Viule Residential
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: School and the Elm guesthouse, where Cyril Smith was implicated
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: as being a member and guest. An MP or British
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: politician from Cyril Smith's own district Rockdale, named Simon Dancuk
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: shortly afterwards, came out in the news and alleged that
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: Cyril Smith had violently hued his victims. At the time,
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: dan Chuk said, there is no doubt that Cyril Smith
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: seriously young boys. While the CPS didn't prosecute more recently
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: is puzzling. It seemed like even members of the British
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: government itself didn't understand why the British government had acted
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: the way that it did decades prior, and these allegations
• 32:49
  Speaker 1: and accusations opened up the floodgates. Soon, dozens hundreds of
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: victims of Cyril Smith came forward and told their stories
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: to investigators, news outlets and newspapers, with harrowing accounts, including
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: stories of miners being forced up on tables and forced
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: to spread themselves so that Cyril Smith could perform disturbing
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: medical examinations on them. Some accused Cyril of being part
• 33:10
  Speaker 1: of a network of predators who exploited their positions to
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: target vulnerable children, and shortly afterwards, a twenty fourteen police
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: investigation identified at least twenty one suspects in this historic
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: predator ring, including Cyril Smith. An uncovered evidence of organized
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: abuse at the Noleview Residential School. As it turned out,
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: Cyril Smith wasn't only involved in the Elm Guesthouse predator ring.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: He was also documented to have been involved in a
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: whole different predator ring operating out of the Noleview School
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: located in his hometown, where powerful people had been paying
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: staff members to come in and have relations with children.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Investigations into this predator ring were also hindered by alleged
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: cover ups, with officers, authorities, and politicians all claiming that
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: police files were seized by five the British CIA, and
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: that whistleblowers had been silenced under the Official Secrets Act,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: which basically just allows British government to tell somebody you
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: can't talk about this or it's illegal and we can
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: arrest and prosecute you. But the worst was yet to come.
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: You see, Cyril Smith had been knighted by the Queen
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: of England in the year nineteen eighty eight, years after
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: he had been discovered to be in possession of CP
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: and years after the multiple allegations of against him had
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: been made. In May of twenty fifteen, declassified and released
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: Cabinet Office documents revealed that Prime Minister at the time
• 34:29
  Speaker 1: Margaret Thatcher, disturbingly, had been informed of the allegations of
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: child abuse that had been made against Cyril Smith before
• 34:37
  Speaker 1: being knighted in nineteen eighty eight, but chose to give
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: him the benefit of the doubt based on the Director
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: of Public Prosecution's decision not to pursue charges due to
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: insufficient evidence. So they knew that he was a predator.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: They knew. Even the upper echelon Margaret Thatcher knew that
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: he was a predator, and yet she still allowed him
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: to become a Royal uknighted person. Shortly afterwards, a bab
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: D Newsnight investigation exposed that Cyril Smith had been arrested
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: in the early nineteen eighties for his involvement in a
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: predator ring separate from the guesthouse ring. And even weirder,
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: it turned out that somebody in the upper echelon of
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: the British government had called the local police who arrested
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: Cyril for his involvement in that predator ring, and this
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: official ordered these police officers to destroy all evidence related
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: to that predator ring, and officers who had seen and
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: interviewed victims and heard testimony were forced to maintain silence
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: about what they had seen and uncovered because of that
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: Official Secrets Act. Further reports indicated that Cyril Smith had
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: once again at one point been arrested by Northamptonshire Police
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: on charges of but had been released again quickly under
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: similarly mysterious circumstances. In twenty fifteen, a retired police officer
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: alleged that he was threatened into silence by officials in
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: the government after he discovered Cyril Smith at the home
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: of a known sex offender with two intoxicated teenage boys
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: and a plain closed police sergeant. The officer claimed he
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: was later summoned to a meeting at Stockport Police station
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: where he was explicitly instructed to remain silent about the
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: incident by his superiors, which had been triggered by a
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: complaint of lewd behavior witnessed by a newspaper boy in
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight. And just to remind you, all, this
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: information about Cyril Smith really became public knowledge after his
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: death in twenty ten, twenty years after the allegations against
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: him were made by Mary Moss and Christopher Fay during
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: the investigation into the death of former Elm guesthouse owner
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: Carrol casiir Let's get back to the Elm guesthouse. So
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: the inquest into the death of Carrol Casir was held,
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: but nothing ever came from it. Her death was labeled
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: as his self unliven and the public moved on. The
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: details were sealed, the allegations were forgotten. But two years
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: later more news would emerge that was incredibly disturbing. You see,
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety two, a social services director named Peter Wrighton,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: the top UK government advisor on child protection services, was
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: arrested after Customs of officials intercepted CP addressed to him
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: from Amsterdam. Yes you heard that correctly, The top United
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: Kingdom government advisor on child protection services, the man that
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: was supposed to protect the children of the UK and
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: was in charge of their protection, was arrested on CP charges.
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: In the wake of his arrest, it was revealed that
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: Peter Wrighton had been a member of a group called
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: the Information Exchange or PIE, which had previously been named
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: in the Jeffrey Dickens VIP predator dossier from nineteen eighty three.
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: Two years later, in nineteen ninety four, Peter Wrighton was
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: arrested once again after a Scotland yard investigation into allegations
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: of historics at children's homes revealed that Peter Wrighton, the
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: head of child services in the UK, was a hardcore,
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: absolutely unrepentant predator. A newspaper report from November ninth, nineteen
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: ninety four stated the following former childcare chief Peter Wrighton
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: has been arrested as part of a nationwide abuse inquiry.
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: Mister Wrighton, sixty eight, a leading consultant on children's homes,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: has been questioned in connection with indecent assaults on children
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: in the London area. This countrywide inquiry followed the closure
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: of New Barns, a school for emotionally disturbed children in Gloucestershire.
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: Staff are now facing abuse charges. Mister Wrighton held a
• 38:14
  Speaker 1: senior post with the National Children's Bureau and was a
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: respected figure in the childcare field. I mean, that's absolutely insane.
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: It should also be brought up that Peter Wrighton's name
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: had been brought up in connection with the guest House
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: long before those articles and news reports came out. He
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: was accused as being a part of this ring by
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: multiple individuals, and then it came out that he was
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: actually trying to get some mail order CP ship to him,
• 38:39
  Speaker 1: which just confirms allegations to me. So at this point
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: these allegations that members of the British government were involved
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: in Predator activities were starting to be officially confirmed through
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: information leaks, arrests, and documents being unsealed, and finally, in
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: October of twenty twelve, almost twenty years after his second arrest,
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: Campaigning Labor MP Tom Watson requested an investigation into the
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: political associations of Predator and PIE member Peter Wrighton and
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: at this point newly reinvigorated police interest in the Elm
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: Guesthouse began. After making his intentions to investigate the Elm
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: Guesthouse affair, Public Labor MP Tom Watson received over two
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: hundred phone calls from alleged victims who had, according to them,
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: been abused by public figures associated at the Elm Guesthouse.
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: One individual had information about boys who were from the
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: Grafton Close Children's Home being subject to at the Elm Guesthouse,
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: and after hearing all this, Tom Watson passed this information
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: to the police. At around the same time, Mary Moss,
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: who had testified about what she knew of the Elm
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Guesthouse in nineteen ninety, was thrust back into the limelight.
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: In January of twenty thirteen, shortly before they were seized
• 39:46
  Speaker 1: under warrant by police, Mary published notes and documents that
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: she had gathered from Carol Cassir online so that they
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: could be seen in access by the general public. But
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: like I said, soon afterwards those documents and the remaining
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: documents that Mary hadn't managed to upload on time, were randomly,
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: after decades, seized by authorities, never to be seen again.
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: It's weird. The m guest house started coming back up
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: in the news. Mary Moss had had these documents for decades,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: and then randomly the police bust into her home take
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: all of her documents relating to the guest house, which
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: according to Mary had some very important names and information
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: on them, and they just disappear. To this day, it's
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: actually unknown where those documents went or what happened to them.
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: But soon afterwards, two heads of the graft in Close
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: Children's Home, the children's home that was allegedly supplying boys
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: to be at the Elm guest house, were arrested for
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: predator crimes. HM Strange it seemed like every single day
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: the allegations that had been made for decades were becoming
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: less like allegations and more like a despicable reality. Shortly
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: after the arrests of those two men who had been
• 40:49
  Speaker 1: in charge of the graft and Close children's home, Mary
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: Moss accepted an invitation to be interviewed by news station ITV,
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: and during this interview she claimed that the Elm Guesthouse
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: had been used to make According to an article published
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: on February seventh, twenty thirteen, and The Independent quote asked
• 41:06
  Speaker 1: who visited there, Miss Moss, a former chair of the
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: National Association of Young People in Care, said MP's all
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: sorts of prominent people. It was a CP racket. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 1: don't think that necessarily anyone would be accused of just
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: simply being perverts. This was a money making business. She added.
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: One of my cases that walked into the office was
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: a young boy who had been there, and another case
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: was a young boy who had been in another children's home,
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: and it was all linked up in a nutshell. He
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: the abuse victim was at Grafting Close Children's Home and
• 41:36
  Speaker 1: procured for the Elm Guesthouse where they were filmed to
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: make CP, which was then distributed. Those documents that Mary
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: Moss leaked online were important. They helped to tell a
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: more complete story of the Elm Guesthouse, a story about
• 41:48
  Speaker 1: how exactly the place came to be a bonafide predator palace.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: According to the leaked documents, Carol Cassir, the former owner
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: and operator of the Elm Guesthouse, had stated that two
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: men named Terry Dwyer and John Rowe had persuaded her
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: to renovate her townhouse into a spa and sauna facility
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: for members of a group called Club Spartacus in the
• 42:07
  Speaker 1: year nineteen seventy nine. We'll talk about Club Spartacus at
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: the end of this episode, but just for context. It's
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: a predator organization that was in part founded by and
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: associated with one of the most infamous predators in American history.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: But we're going to wait until the end of this
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: episode to discuss that. According to these documents, after agreeing
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: to these renovations and agreeing to convert her home into
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: a meeting ground for Club Spartacus members, Carol Cassir had
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: been put in touch with a man named Peter Glencross,
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: who was a close associate of a known violent predator
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: named John Stamford, who acted as the commercial agent for
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: Spartacus International to provide proof for these allegations. It should
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: be stated that at the time of this raid and
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: in the years before it, the Elm Guesthouse had displayed
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: a sign out front which read Club Spartacus. This is
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: a known and reported upon fact that is often left
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: out in the stories of this place. In addition, letter
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: correspondents from Spartacus International address to the Elm Guesthouse dated
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: from nineteen eighty one exists as well. A report from
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: i Czarro News published on February TEWO twenty thirteen confirms
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: this information, stating Mary Moss's papers seized by police name
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: the man who helped turn a guesthouse into a predator
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: brothel allegedly used by MP's and other VIPs. Izaro can
• 43:20
  Speaker 1: reveal that the key figure who persuaded Carol cassir, co,
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: manager of the guest house, to create a haven for
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: homosexual men to have sex with boys is Peter Glencross,
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: who was part of an underground predator network called Spartacus.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: Files seized by police relating to the Elm Guesthouse were
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: leaked online at one point, and notes on records from
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: an Elm Guesthouse sign in book were included amongst the
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: photos and documents. Some of the people who allegedly signed
• 43:45
  Speaker 1: into the guesthouse on these leaked documents were amongst the
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: most powerful in England. Among those named under alleged monikers
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: Royal Staffer, Anthony Blunt, Cyril Smith, the un Britain Blah
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Blah Blahthers. So many people on these lists. At this
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: point in twenty thirteen, the allegations surrounding the Elm Guesthouse
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: had built up into a frenzy and the authorities in
• 44:04
  Speaker 1: England knew that they had to do something to appease
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: the public who were crying out for justice. So in
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: February twenty thirteen, the Metropolitan Police in the London area
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: launched an infamous investigation that would come to be known
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: as Operation fern Bridge that aimed to investigate and expose
• 44:19
  Speaker 1: powerful predators in the British establishment that had been allowed
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: to get away with their crimes for decades. But as
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: it turned out, the authorities had already begun investigating this
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: alleged predator ring back in twenty twelve under the name
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Operation Fairbank. During this investigation, authorities had attempted and i
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: used air quotes because they really didn't do to gather
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: information on the Elm Guesthouse ring and historic it took
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: place at the children's homes in England. During this investigation,
• 44:47
  Speaker 1: many allegations of abuse surfaced, but they went completely uninvestigated
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: and not followed up on. Then in January of twenty thirteen,
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: a year later, Operation fern Bridge was started, which became
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: a very public affair. Operation Fernbridge's primary focus was to
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: investigate those abuse allegations that were made during Operation Fairbank,
• 45:05
  Speaker 1: allegations concerning predator crimes that occurred at the Elm Guesthouse
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: in the late seventies and early eighties. There were over
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: three hundred lines of questioning that Scotland Yard had to
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: look into and hundreds of victims that had come forward
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: to make accusations. The abuse claims included multiple assaults on
• 45:21
  Speaker 1: single individuals and dozens of alleged perpetrators from the upper
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: crust of the British government. And this investigation actually led
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: to the discovery of those two predators who had worked
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: at the Grafton Close Children's home, Tony McSweeney, a Catholic
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: priest from Norwich, and John Stingmore, the former manager of
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: Grafton Close Children's Home, the priest Tony McSweeney, would eventually
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: be convicted for his crimes against kids, but something curious
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: happened to John Stingmore. In January of twenty fifteen, whilst
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: awaiting his trial, John Stingmore was found dead in his home.
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: He was never given the proper chance to testify about
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: his exact role in the predator ring that he helped
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: operate at the Grafton Closet Children's Home, and he took
• 46:01
  Speaker 1: his secrets to the grave. Although the official explanation is
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: that he died due to medical conditions, I'm still a
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: bit suspicious. Here's a guy, a manager of a connected
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: children's home that was allegedly supplying boys to the Elm Guesthouse,
• 46:14
  Speaker 1: who would have overseen the day to day operations of
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: the transport and trafficking of these children, and he dies
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: before he can testify about any of his knowledge or
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: make any of his thoughts known. Strange right sadly to say, though,
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: even though Operation Fernbridge was off to a good start,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: it was doomed from the very beginning, in fact, to
• 46:32
  Speaker 1: investigate the hundreds of abuse allegations made against dozens of individuals.
• 46:36
  Speaker 1: Only seven officers were assigned to the investigation, which made
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: their caseloads exhaustive. There was no way that these seven
• 46:43
  Speaker 1: officers could properly investigate each and every one of these allegations.
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: In addition, only twenty five thousand pounds was awarded to
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: the investigators by the government to carry out their operation.
• 46:53
  Speaker 1: It was not a lot of money. They were underfunded,
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: they were understaffed, underpaid, and so the operation in regards
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: to the Elm Guesthouse ultimately went nowhere. It should be noted, though,
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: that the Elm Guesthouse allegations were eventually handed over to
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: the investigators assigned to another operation, Operation Athabasca, and the
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: end of this operation was absolutely insane, but not in
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: a good way. At the end of Operation Athabasca's years
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: long investigation, on February fourteenth, Valentine's Day, twenty nineteen, Metropolitan
• 47:23
  Speaker 1: Police Commander Neil Jerome, who oversaw the operation, gave evidence
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: on Operation Athabasca's findings to the Independent Inquiry into Child
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: and in this testimony and conclusion, Jerome himself stated an
• 47:36
  Speaker 1: absolutely absurd conclusion. Jerome stated that quote and I want
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: to emphasize that this is a quote no credible victim
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: has ever come forward alleging a specific offense suffered whilst
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: at Elm Guesthouse, and that no prominent person had ever
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: been conclusively identified as having a child there end quote.
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: This was a complete and utter lie. But this is
• 47:58
  Speaker 1: ultimately where the British Government still stands on this entire
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: thing to this day. It should be noted, though, that
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: in the wake of Operation fern Bridge, other investigations were
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: started that took a look at other allegations connected to
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: the Elm Guesthouse, allegations of murder, snuff films and missing children,
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: and this angle of the investigation began with Operation Orchid.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Operation Orchid was an investigation into the activities of a
• 48:21
  Speaker 1: predator ring that was run by an infamous British man
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: named Sidney Cook and his cohort Lenny Smith. To give
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: you a bit of context, Sidney Cook is one of
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: the most infamous child predators in British history. He was
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: the ringleader of a predator gang that is suspected to
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: have abducted, victimized and murdered up to twenty young boys
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: in Britain in the nineteen seventies and eighties. Lots of
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: these boys. Their bodies have never been found. They're officially missing,
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: and they're just suspected to have been victims of Sidney
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: Cook's gang. And these boys were killed in some of
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: the most disturbing vile ways possible. We're going to be
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: covering Sidney Cook's story and the Dirty Dozen and all
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: of the children that he's thought to a victim on
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: an upcoming episode of the show, But for now, you
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: just need to know that Sidney Cook, one of the
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: most evil men on earth, and his good friend slash
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: co conspirator Lenny Smith were the definition of evil. They
• 49:11
  Speaker 1: were serial child and murderers. Operation Orchid was actually its
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: own operation that was opened up specifically to take a
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: look at Sidney Cook and the crimes that he engaged in.
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: But during this independent inquiry, connections between Sidney, the Dirty Dozen,
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: his gang, and the elm Guesthouse were established. You see,
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: a man named Roger Studley, the retired Detective Chief Superintendent
• 49:33
  Speaker 1: who led the operation, stated that through the information they
• 49:36
  Speaker 1: gathered during the course of the operation, he and the
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: other authorities heavily believed that Lenny Smith, one of the
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: leaders of Sidney Cook's predator gang, was believed to have
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: visited the Elm guesthouse multiple times throughout his life. There
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: were notes in an unredacted intelligence file related to the
• 49:52
  Speaker 1: operation that was leaked at one point that supported this finding. However,
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Operation Orchid, for some reason or another, didn't seriously look
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: into the guesthouse as they didn't believe it was relevant.
• 50:02
  Speaker 1: At the time. The operation heard rumors about things going
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: on there, but at that time they were focused on
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: their primary investigation, which was the children who were abducted
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: and murdered by Sidney Cook and his gang of predators.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: As part of the operation, Detective Stoodeley began looking into
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: several missing children cases that he located across the UK,
• 50:20
  Speaker 1: and the more he dug into these cases of missing kids,
• 50:23
  Speaker 1: the more perplexed he became. It seemed as though there
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: was a lot of information missing, a lot of investigations
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: that went absolutely nowhere, a lot of notes and information
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: that were never written down or recorded. He stated, every
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: force had its own way of recording things. If a
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: boy had gone missing a few times, they wouldn't even
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: report it, and sometimes they would have a missing person
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: report and it was never followed up. All the information
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: related to Operation or Kid was said to be held
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: within Scotland Yard, the main investigative authority of England think
• 50:50
  Speaker 1: of them sort of like the UK's FBI. However, a
• 50:53
  Speaker 1: few years later, a detective who tried to review the
• 50:56
  Speaker 1: files and information gathered on Sidney Cook during Operation Kid
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety eight found that the information had been lost.
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: It had vanished once again from the evidence rooms, and
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: to give some perspective on the state of the police
• 51:10
  Speaker 1: at the time in England, it was later discovered that
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: nearly one third of the sex offender files for one
• 51:15
  Speaker 1: London police district disappeared. Those files documenting hard core predators
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: that lurked amongst the people of London had vanished straight
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: from the police evidence room. As it turned out, Scotland
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: Yards unit assigned to compile information on sex attacks was
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: staffed by only one officer and one secretary. They were underfunded, understaffed,
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: and they suffered for it. But it was through Operation
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: or Kid that some disturbing connections between the Elm Guesthouse
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: and the murders of a few missing children were established.
• 51:45
  Speaker 1: We now need to talk about Vishall Merotra. Vishal Morotro
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: was an eight year old boy who went missing after
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: being abducted from Putney, London. Vishaw, who was eight years
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: old at the time of his disappearance, went missing in
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: July nineteen eighty one, less than a mile away from
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: the Elm Guesthouse. On July twenty ninth, nineteen eighty one,
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: the day of Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer's wedding,
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: the Maratra family traveled to London to watch the event.
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: Returning to East Putney around one forty pm, Vishambar Maratra
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: went home, leaving his son Vishal and daughter Mamta with
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: their nanny Carvallo. He gave them twenty pounds each to
• 52:19
  Speaker 1: buy some sweets. After visiting a newsagent, Carvallo took Mamta
• 52:23
  Speaker 1: to buy cough medicine while Vshaw, feeling tired, chose to
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: walk home alone. Carvallo accompanied him across the main road
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: before parting ways, and she and mom to return home
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: at around three pm, assuming that Vshal had just gone
• 52:35
  Speaker 1: out to play. By four thirty pm, Vishaw was still missing,
• 52:39
  Speaker 1: prompting Carvallo and Vishambar to search the neighborhood. Unable to
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: locate him, they reported his disappearance to the Metropolitan Police
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: at seven pm. Vishaal would remain missing for over half
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: of a year, but eventually the upper part of his
• 52:51
  Speaker 1: torso was found seven months later, buried in a wooded
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: area of West Sussex. A few months after Vishaal's disappearance,
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: his father was contacted by a man who identified himself
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: as a male prostitute, who suggested that his son's abduction
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: may be tied to a group of high profile predators
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: who were often at the Elm Guesthouse. On the call,
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: the phantom man specifically told Vishall's father that his son
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: may have been taken to the Elm Guesthouse and murdered
• 53:17
  Speaker 1: by a group of highly placed predators. Years later, in
• 53:20
  Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, Vishall's father, Vishambar, stated this to the press.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: I was contacted by a young man who seemed to
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: be in his twenties. He told me he believed Vshap
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: may have been taken by predators in the Elm Guesthouse
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: near Barnes Common. He said there were very highly placed
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: people there. He talked about judges and politicians who were
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: little boys. The phone call was taped and was passed
• 53:41
  Speaker 1: on to detectives, but v Schambar was told not to
• 53:44
  Speaker 1: think too hard about it because the police believed this
• 53:46
  Speaker 1: was nothing more than a prank phone call, and because
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: of this conclusion that the whole thing was a prank
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: phone call, the allegations were never looked into. The man
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: who reached out to Vishall's father, who has never been
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: publicly identified, also told him that he had already informed
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: the police about the activities of politicians, judges and other
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: high profile people who were victimizing boys at the own guesthouse.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: But no one ever followed up with this man on
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: his statement, it's still, like I said, an uninvestigated lead.
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: There was also another child who had gone missing from
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: an area very close to the Elm guesthouse two years earlier,
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine, and this is disturbing. The child
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: who disappeared was named Martin Allen and was the son
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: of Chief Chauffeur of Australian High Commissioner, Sir Gordon Freeth.
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: That's right, Martin's family worked in politics and were in
• 54:30
  Speaker 1: close proximity to politicians every single day. In fact, Martin's
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: family lived in the caretaker's cottage located directly on the
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: grounds of the Commissioner's residence, So not only was Martin's
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: family directly tied into the political orbit of powerful people
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: in London at the time, but they also lived on
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: the same property as one. In newspaper reports at the time,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: it was reported that Martin's father, immediately after his disappearance,
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: for some reason or another, believed that his son had
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: been abducted by a gang of predators in order to
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: make c pe After Vishaw was then abducted and disappeared
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: two years later, in nineteen eighty one, it was publicly
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: reported that the Metropolitan Police believed that both boys were
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: abducted by the same gang. This fact was even reported
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: in newspapers, as reported in Daily Star on August tenth,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two, which was quoted as saying Vice Squad
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: officers probing London's homosexual scene have reopened their files on
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: two schoolboys who went missing. Vishaw Morotra eight, was found
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: murdered seven months after disappearing on the Royal Wedding Day
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: last year. Martin Allen, fifteen, son of the chauffeur to
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: the Australian High Commissioner in London has never been found
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: after being whisked away by an unknown man. Both cases
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: have connections with Southwest London, where police have raided a
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: gay guesthouse. Vishaw was last seen in Upper Richmond Road, Putney,
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: just a mile and a half from the guesthouse. Martin
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: of Kensington was picked up as he approached King's Cross Station.
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: Police believe many prominent people are linked with homosexual vice
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: rings involving young boys. Oh yeah, I forgot to add
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: that in there. Martin was seen getting into a car
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: with the total stranger and no one's ever figured out
• 56:02
  Speaker 1: who that was or who this guy was that was
• 56:04
  Speaker 1: with him. In a later interview, Kevin Allen, the older
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: brother of Martin Allen, the missing boy, revealed that the
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: two would frequently washed government vehicles, that the Commissioner's residence
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: and other buildings associated with the Australian Embassy. Interestingly, following
• 56:17
  Speaker 1: Martin's disappearance in nineteen seventy nine, Australian intelligence reportedly launched
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: an internal investigation into stand in drivers employed by a
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: private chauffeur company used by the Australian High commission This company,
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: which provided drivers for civic functions, often attended by individuals
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: connected to Margaret Thatcher's circle was found to have employed
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: several convicted child predators. That's a documented fact. This driver service,
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: the chauffeur service that catered to these politicians that a
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: lot of politicians connected to Margaret Thatcher's government used, was
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: staffed by a number of child predators. And among those
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: drivers that were previously employed by this service was Sidney Cook,
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: the notorious predator gang leader who's thought to be responsible
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: for the deaths of over twenty children. And David Smith,
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: the personal driver of the demon formerly known as Jimmy Saville,
• 57:08
  Speaker 1: who died of a heroin overdose just before his trial
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: relating to Jimmy Savill's crimes. The events in question also
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: implicated prominent figures such as Peter Morrison, Margaret Thatcher's private
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: secretary and an alleged predator, Peter Hayman, a deputy director
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: of mi I six and a known and documented predator,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: and Leon Britton, Margaret Thatcher's home secretary, who we already
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: discussed extensively. This dark spiderweb of connections raises many troubling
• 57:33
  Speaker 1: questions about the environment surrounding Martin Allen's disappearance, but still,
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: even though these links were discovered, nothing ever happened, and
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: this is public knowledge. The following excerpt was published on
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: February first, twenty fifteen, in an article by The Australian,
• 57:46
  Speaker 1: a news outlet based in Australia. Kevin says it was
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: standard practice for the High Commission to supplement its regular
• 57:52
  Speaker 1: drivers with stand in and casual drivers from a particular
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: sheu fur firm located just across the teme. His research
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: has revealed that this shelfeur firm head at various times
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: employed Sidney Cook, whose gang the Dirty Dozen would later
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: be convicted and jailed for the torture and murder of
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: three young boys in the eighties. Jimmy Saviles chauffeur David Smith,
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: who unlived himself last year before standing trial on charges,
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: is believed to have links to the same car company.
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: In the late seventies, Sidney Cook and his predator Cohort
• 58:22
  Speaker 1: are understood to have been some of the drivers who
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: would pick up young care home boys and rent boys
• 58:27
  Speaker 1: in the expensive cars and deliver them to organized orgies
• 58:31
  Speaker 1: in Barnes, Pimlico and Kensington. But even though all this
• 58:34
  Speaker 1: information was well known, publicized and documented. Nothing ever happened,
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: No arrests were made, no questions were answered, and the
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: chase for the killers of Martin Allen and Vischelle Morotra
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: went cold. Ten years after Vishaal's death, in nineteen ninety one,
• 58:47
  Speaker 1: a detective from London Metro contacted his father and said
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: he was going to reopen the investigation into Vishall's death.
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: But the detective never followed up and Vishaal's father never
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: heard from him again. Then, in November twenty fourteen, twenty
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: three years later, something unbelievable happened. The Metropolitan Police began
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: their most infamous investigation and publicly stated that they were
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: opening a homicide investigation surrounding allegations that children had been
• 59:12
  Speaker 1: by predators linked to two establishments that were in operation
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: over thirty years ago, the Elm Guesthouse and Dolphin Square apartments.
• 59:19
  Speaker 1: Immediately upon seeing this news, Vishaal's father thought that this
• 59:22
  Speaker 1: inquiry should look into his son's death. In twenty fourteen,
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: at the start of that operation, a detective, Jackie Malton,
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: who investigated Vishal's death, publicly stated that she was worried
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: that there was a cover up in regards to the
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: Elm Guesthouse predator ring. She believed that the murder investigation
• 59:38
  Speaker 1: may have been compromised due to the power of various politicians.
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: At the time, a source that was close to the
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: investigation stated that the investigators would check the homicide database
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: on child murders to see if they could link any
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: of the deaths to new information that the police had
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: received over the past few decades. Vishaal's murder is indeed
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: in the database, and since it occurred near one of
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: the locations being investigated by police, this immediately marked it
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: as a high profile case to investigate, and eventually Vishal's
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: death was linked to a member of a predator ring
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: none other than Sidney Cook, the man already investigated under
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: Operation Orkid, who had been linked previously to the Elm Guesthouse.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: As it turned out, Lenny Smith, the man who helped
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: run the predator ring with Sidney Cook, had at the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: time of the crimes, been working as a rent boy
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: in London. This in the past had led investigators to
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: suspect that he had been working if you get what
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 1: I'm saying, inside of the Elm Guesthouse. But in twenty fourteen,
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 1: during that operation, when investigators headed into the files to
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: look for the evidence that was gathered during Operation or
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: Kid that linked Sidney Cook, his cohort Lenny Smith, and
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: the Elm Guesthouse. Together, they discovered that the information was
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: once again missing. Once again, it had vanished from the
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 1: police evidence lockers and from filing cabinets. No explanation was given,
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: it was simply gone. So now we have a number
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 1: of different investigations that went nowhere, a number of different
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: leads that were never followed up on a metric ton
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: of evidence that disappeared from official filing cabinets and evidence
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 1: locker rooms. But who were the victims of the Elm Guesthouse.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Who were the kids who testified that they had seen
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: what had happened on the inside and lived to tell
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: the tale. Well we know a few of their names.
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 1: One is Peter Hatton born Shit. Peter Hatton born Shit
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: had a tragic life. Who was only a baby when
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: his father died in a tragic car accident and Peter,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: at age twelve, along with his older brother, was given
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: to social services by his stepfather after his mother unlived
• 1:01:28
  Speaker 1: herself and his family fell apart. It was at this
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: point in his life when Peter was put into the
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 1: Grafton Close Children's Home, which was a hotbed of abuse,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: and then trafficked off of the property and into the
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: Elm Guesthouse to be used by politicians, celebrities and the like,
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: and these violent assaults and torture would have a permanent,
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 1: lasting effect on Peter. Later on in his life, it
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: was discovered that Peter had a personality disorder and at
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: one point his own caseworker stated on an official report
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: that they believed that his mental health issues were partially
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: due to the abuse he suffered at a young age.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 1: Unlived himself when he was twenty eight years old, and
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: his case became a part of Operation Fernbridge in twenty thirteen,
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: which aimed to look at the historic crimes associated with
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: the Elm Guesthouse in Grafting Close Children's School and sadly,
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: as with some victims of they sometimes themselves eventually become
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: a ps and the cycle continues. An individual from child
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: protection was well aware that Peter was his own children
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: and was trying to get him arrested at the time
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: that he unlived himself. According to the Scottish Daily Mail quote,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: a child protection campaigner told us this week. Peter was
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 1: a victim at Elm Guesthouse in the seventies, but by
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: the time I knew of him in the eighties, he
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 1: was an He had been groomed as a child, but
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: he crossed the line at some stage as an adult.
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: He was organizing the kids. By the mid nineteen eighties
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: we were pushing for his arrest. We weren't treating him
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: as a victim anymore. Then there's the older brother of
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: Peter Hattenbornschen whose name has not been publicly revealed. Peter's
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 1: older brother was thirteen at the time the started for
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 1: him at the Grafting Close Children's Home and at the
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Elm Guesthouse. He stated that the boys were given alcohol
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 1: before being stripped down and forced to pose for nude
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 1: photographs while wearing skimpy faery costumes. Some of the men
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 1: that he stated he was by that were present at
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 1: these photo and alcohol parties were MPs or British politicians,
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: and according to him, after the photographs were taken, the
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: group of men would then proceed to the boys. Eventually,
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: he received a payoff from Richmond Council after he complained
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 1: about his treatment at the care home, and that was
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: the end of his story. Then we have Richard Kerr,
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: the most vocal advocate for justice for victims of the
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: Elm Guesthouse. Richard had a tragic life as well. When
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: he was very young, he was first at the Kincora
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 1: Boys Home in Belfast in the nineteen seventies, a story
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 1: which I covered as one of the first episodes of
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: The Conspiracy Files. Then, when he was a bit older,
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 1: Richard was hand selected along with two other boys in
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven to be sent to London to be
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: by men at the Elm Guesthouse.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 2: My name is Richard Kerr and I'm fifty three, and
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 2: I believe my first time being trafficked to England was
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 2: on February of nineteen seventy seven.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: As a teenager, he was introduced to the world of Westminster.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: He says he was trafficked from Northern Ireland and that
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: this picture was taken by one of his abusers.
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 2: I was just as a boy toy. I was an object,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: a sexual object. They were a man who had control
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 2: in power over other.
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: They were politicians, you believe some might do.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: This is the place that I remember very well in
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: the memories I tried to block, many many years ago.
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 3: How do you feel about the boy you remember here?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 2: Very emotional, very painful, sorry, scared.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: Throughout his life, Richard tried to speak out about the
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: horrific abuse that he was suffering at the hands of
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: England's most elite, but, as he stated during this interview,
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: multiple times detectives or other agents from the government would
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: show up and intimidate him into silence.
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 4: They told me to stop stop talking about Cancora.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 5: They intimidated me here there is another place in Preston, Lancashire.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: They told me they could put me away.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: But speaking of the Elm Guesthouse, Richard still hates reliving
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: the things that he endured while there. The most violent
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: experience that Richard ever experienced at the hands of his abusers,
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: according to him, took place at the Elm Guesthouse where
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: he was tied up with his hands behind his back
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: while men took photographs.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: I was tied up here, I do I do remember that.
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 4: I don't know why I was tied up, but I
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: was tied up. We were my hands behind my back.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: I do remember that. Laying died and until photographs other
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 4: men were here. Other man came into the room it
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 4: just wasn't this one man.
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: There were other man here. It didn't need to be
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 6: this way. It's just holy no all sometimes and that
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 6: Gain believes that's happened.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: Another location in the story that we haven't really talked
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: about yet was Dolphin Square, an apartment complex in London
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: that is still to this day almost exclusively rented out
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: to the British elite parliament members, politicians, celebrity and the like.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: It's also a location rumored to be another hot spot
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: for predators to bring their child victims to. Jimmy Saville
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 1: himself had an office there where crimes are said to
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: have occurred, and it's been alleged that cp has been
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: filmed and produced at Dolphin Square. Abuse has happened at
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: Dolphin Square, and even that snuff films or videos where
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: children were and then afterwards murdered have also been filmed
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: at Dolphin Square, and Richard claims he was taken there too.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: One of the locations he claims he was taken to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: in a taxi was an apartment complex in the heart
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: of Westminster known as Dolphin Square. It is now at
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: the nexus of the Met Police's Operation Midland, which is
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: also looking into alleged murders that.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 4: Could have been so sting fifteen seventeen.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 5: I remember going in with this guy and then he
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 5: told me to sit down and relax and explained about
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 5: his glasses and he said he had a like water
• 1:07:09
  Speaker 5: for crystal, and he wanted me to have a brandy
• 1:07:12
  Speaker 5: and we had more brandy and then we had sexual
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 5: encounter in here.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: Did you ever meet any of the men that have
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: been named to have had a led contact with young boys?
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: I just don't want to get into that right now.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 4: I really don't.
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 5: I'm talking to my attorneys legal and why is that?
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Why don't you want to talk about it?
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm still concerned. There are some people still rhy
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 4: and I'm concerned. Most of these people were very well off, but.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 5: Most of them had positions of par that they had
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 5: influence over others.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: The other two boys that were trafficked with Richard from
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Ireland to England to the guesthouse, according to Richard, ended
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 1: up on aliving themselves and that's why he to continue
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 1: fighting this fight.
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 4: Not by me.
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 5: It's about the voices that didn't have a voice, and
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 5: I'm just I don't know my spirits as they are
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 5: driving me I want those who responsible brought to justice. Yes,
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 5: we can't fail on this, We just can't if we
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 5: do this now, if we fail on this, we are
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 5: allowing as to continue that they can get away from
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 5: this because people are decided to turn the other way.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Another victim of the Elm Guesthouse that's documented was the
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: young boy found on the night of the nineteen eighty
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: two raid, but his name was never released and his
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: story was never fully told. But according to reports, the
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 1: young boy had been multiple times by predators while in
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: his room at the Elm Guesthouse. There's also a Lee,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: a sixteen year old masseuse who was forced in see
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: at the Elm Guesthouse in nineteen eighty two. He was
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 1: arrested at the same time as Carol and Henry Casiir,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 1: the owners of the Elm Guesthouse, on the night of
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: the initial police raid. However, the official charges against him
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: were dropped, and it should be noted that charges were
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: never filed against those he claimed victimized him. Lee has
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: also stated in the past that he was by one
• 1:09:10
  Speaker 1: of the undercover police officers while they were there investigating
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: the guest house, and that's one of the reasons why
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 1: the charges of solicitation against him were dropped by prosecutors.
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: The police were told that they would be implicating themselves
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: if the charges weren't dropped. In a news article from
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: April twenty fourteen, it was noted that Lee was thinking
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: about taking action against the police for their actions as
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 1: agent provocateurs and sending in undercover officers and conducting a raid.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: As he was only sixteen during these events, he was, just,
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: to be very clear, legally considered to be a child
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 1: at the time of his There's also an unnamed businessman
• 1:09:44
  Speaker 1: who came forward around twenty fourteen when he was forty
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: six and claimed that he was that the Olm Guesthouse
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 1: and the details of the crimes against him are violent,
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: disturbing and horrifying. This same anonymous victim claimed that they
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: witnessed the murders of three children at the guest house
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: and stayed that one of the boys he saw being
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: killed was strangled by a conservative MP that people in
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: Britain would recognize. But overall, who was involved in the
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 1: cover ups of the Elm Guesthouse for one for sure
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 1: was police agencies. There were allegations related to the Elm
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Guesthouse that included police misconduct regarding their investigation at the
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: guest house. Obviously, with all the documents that went missing,
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: the shifting stories, the denial of the truth, the unwillingness
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: to investigate leads and prosecute predators, and so much more,
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: it's pretty obvious that the police were seemingly trying their
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 1: hardest not to investigate the guest house. It's also thought
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: that the findings of these investigations, even if they were
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: actually completed with integrity, were sealed and covered up before
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: they could ever be brought to a prosecution or revealed
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: to the public. One of the main cover up theories
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: is that evidence related to Leon Britton, the Attorney General
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: of the UK, being at the guest house was suppressed. Obviously,
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: Leon Britain is a man that had many many allegations
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 1: made against him during his life, and he was the
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: guy who the dossier dispeared under. It should also be
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: noted that, according to some testimony gathered during these investigations,
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: Leon Brittain's attendance at the home was noted by residents
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: of the area where the guesthouse was located. That's right,
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 1: residents who lived in the area of the Elm Guesthouse
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: had seen who they thought was Leon in the area
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: at or around the times of some of these alleged crimes. Also,
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 1: in response to a freedom of information request in twenty fourteen,
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: the Crown Prosecution Service provided a letter stating that they
• 1:11:27
  Speaker 1: destroyed a file of Elm Guesthouse suspects and evidence in
• 1:11:30
  Speaker 1: the year two thousand and seven. Hmmm, weird. Why two
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: thousand and seven. I don't know. That's weird to me.
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 1: It's just some random ass year that they decided, hey,
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: let's just destroy some evidence. It's also known that there
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: was complicitness in this affair from MI five, the British
• 1:11:45
  Speaker 1: equivalent of the CIA. It's public information and widely known
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 1: that the Director of Public Prosecutions lied to journalists about
• 1:11:52
  Speaker 1: why they chose not to charge Cyril Smith with crimes
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: against children throughout his life, even though he had been
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: arrested multiple times for the offensive and had dozens of
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: allegations made against him. When questioned, the Director of Public
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Prosecutions stated that the case was not referred to five
• 1:12:08
  Speaker 1: when it was referred to them. He also stated that
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: they decided not to follow the information as a serious
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 1: lead because their role was to defend the realm, but
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: seemingly defending the realm as he actually stated, didn't mean
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: defending the children of England. It meant defending the power
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 1: of the crown and the corruption behind it. In July
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: of twenty fourteen, ex Conservative Cabinet minister Lord Tebbitt stated
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: that there may have been a political cover up over
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 1: happening during the nineteen eighties in England. Lord Tebbitt stated
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 1: that at the time the mindset amongst government officials was
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 1: to protect the system and not to investigate too deeply
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 1: into unpleasant allegations. He also said it was almost unconscious,
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: it was the thing people did at the time. Lord
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 1: Tebbitt's statements were made after the Home Office admitted that
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: one hundred and fourteen files related to historic organized from
• 1:12:54
  Speaker 1: nineteen seventy nine to ninety nine couldn't be located. They
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: were thought to be missing or just destroyed. Well, just
• 1:13:00
  Speaker 1: to reiterate towards the end of this whole thing, children
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 1: were trafficked into England in one way or another, whether
• 1:13:06
  Speaker 1: from foreign countries or different boys homes in different areas
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: like the Cancora Boys Home, and were then taken to
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 1: the Elm guesthouse to be used like toys by the
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 1: wealthy and powerful British elite. One of the main places
• 1:13:17
  Speaker 1: that these children were taken from was the Grafton Close
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: Children's Home in London, which was later found out to
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 1: be a horrific institution full of abuse. All on its own.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: We could do an entire episode just on that complex alone,
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: about the many employees that were discovered to have been
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 1: child predators and the horrific things that happened there, but
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: that's for another day. There was also the Dolphin Square
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 1: apartment complex in London, located near Parliament, where victims have
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 1: alleged that and murder took place, but according to the authorities, Remember,
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: nothing happened at the Elm guesthouse. That's still the official story.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 1: No one was ever victimized, No VIPs were ever there
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: in the home. It was just a hotel. Remember that
• 1:13:58
  Speaker 1: quote from twenty nineteen when Metropolis to Police Commander Neil Jerome,
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 1: who oversaw one of the many operations tasked with exposing
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: the guest house, spoke to the Independent Inquiry into Child
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: stating that quote, no credible victim has ever come forward
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: alleging a specific offense suffered whilst at Elm Guesthouse end quote,
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: and that no prominent person had ever been conclusively identified
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: as having a child there. It's infuriating, isn't it. Even
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 1: Harun Casir, the former owner of the guest house, has
• 1:14:27
  Speaker 1: maintained his own silence on the matter over the last
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: few decades, even after his wife was most likely murdered.
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: To keep her silent, Harun was quoted somewhat recently as saying,
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: quote Elm guest House was just a guest house. There
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: were never any politicians or any parties. That is why
• 1:14:41
  Speaker 1: there have never been any convictions or anything like that.
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: There's nothing else to add end quote. It also should
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: be noted that the Wikipedia page about this whole thing
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: is corrupt itself. The page is titled the Elm Guesthouse Hoax.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: On this joke of a Wikipedia page, they gloss over
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: the historical allegations about the Um guest House and solely
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: focused on the operations carried out in the name of justice.
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 1: In fact, even though the first three quarters of this
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 1: episode was about allegations and evidence that were made and
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 1: happened before the year twenty fourteen, there are only a
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: few sentences on the Wikipedia page about all those allegations,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: and they mostly seek to discredit them. But the real
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: reason why I believe that those allegations, that testimony and
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 1: that evidence wasn't included on the page is because that
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 1: information just can't easily be debunked. But there's another part
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 1: of this entire saga that was highly publicized that I
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 1: haven't mentioned yet. That's because it's the part of this
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: story that debunkers frequently cite as the reason why none
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 1: of this stuff is real and why none of this
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 1: stuff ever happened. In twenty fourteen, a man named Carl Beach,
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: initially known under the pseudonym Nick, came forward to the
• 1:15:44
  Speaker 1: authorities and to the press in England and falsely accused
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: prominent figures of abusing him, which led to widespread investigations
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: and news report. Carl claimed to have been abused by
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 1: a VIP predator gang for over a decade at locations
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 1: like the Elm Guesthouse and Dolphin Square, and even alleged
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: that he had witnessed the murders of some children during
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 1: this cycle of torture. These allegations prompted another investigation to
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 1: be started called Operation Midland, with its express intent having
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: been to investigate high profile officials. However, a subsequent inquiry
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: by Richard Henrieks determined that Carl's claims were completely baseless.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 1: He wasn't even in the country at the times of
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: these claims. There was just definitive proof that this was
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: impossible to have happened to him, and Metropolitan Police Commissioner
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: Hogan Howe issued apologies to the accused and to Leon
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: Britton's widow for the harm caused by the false allegations.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, Carl Beach stood trial on twelve charges
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: of perverting the course of justice and one of fraud,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: which he denied. Before the trial began, he pleaded guilty
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: to offenses, revealing he had been involved in creating and
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 1: sharing images during the same period he fabricated his allegations.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: On July twenty second, twenty nineteen, Carl Beach was found
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 1: guilty of lying and sentenced to eighteen years in prison
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: on the twenty sixth of July. So, at the end
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 1: of this story, some random predator came forward, made a
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: bunch of completely falsified allegations with no evidence, was called
• 1:17:10
  Speaker 1: out for lying to the press and to the authorities,
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: and was then arrested, and that was the seal or
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 1: stamp of approval from the higher ups on the cover
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 1: up itself. At that point, the cover up was complete.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 1: Now the authorities had a boogeyman whom they could pin
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: all of the false allegations on. And now anytime the
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: elm guesthouse is brought up, conversation is shut down immediately
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: because of this one single guy and his set of accusations.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 6: It was a.
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: Perfect storm for the British government when you think about it.
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 1: Some guy comes along, makes all of the accusers and
• 1:17:38
  Speaker 1: victims look bad and practically hands them a reason why
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: they can call all this a fake hoax. It's almost
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 1: as if this man, Carl Beach, was hired by the
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 1: government itself to do all of this so that they
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: could find a scapegoat to pin all the false accusations
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: on and move on. It's almost as if Carl could
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: have been working for the government all along to undermine
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 1: the victims, to create a disinformation campaign to delegitimize all
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 1: of the real evidence and reporting. Hmmm, but I don't know,
• 1:18:06
  Speaker 1: I might just be going crazy, ha ha ha. It
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 1: should be said, though, that all of the evidence presented
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: in this episode before I ever mentioned Carl Beach has
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 1: had nothing to do with him, with his allegations or
• 1:18:18
  Speaker 1: with Operation Midland. In fact, I'm not going to discuss
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 1: him any further in order to not taint this episode
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: and the legitimate documented proof of these allegations that I've
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 1: already shown y'all, If you were to go through and
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: review the Wikipedia page tied to the Elm Guesthouse, you'll
• 1:18:32
  Speaker 1: notice that it lacks almost all the information that was
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: outlined here in this show. Victims were ignored, statements were forgotten,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 1: newspaper and police reports were completely disregarded. And by completely
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 1: ignoring alleged victim statements or not even mentioning them, and
• 1:18:46
  Speaker 1: declaring the Elm Guesthouse allegations a hoax, whoever the phantom
• 1:18:50
  Speaker 1: user is that has kept up the facade of innocence
• 1:18:52
  Speaker 1: on the Young Guesthouse Wikipedia page is committing a massive
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: disservice to the innumerable legitimate victims. Wikipedia can be edited.
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 1: It can be edited by anyone, including governments. I'm sure
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 1: some people do create false statements to pass blame, but
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 1: ignoring actual accounts of predators and predator rings to make
• 1:19:10
  Speaker 1: a government look innocent seems like a crime in itself.
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 1: But to end this episode, we have to explore one
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: more final mysterious clue in the Elm Guesthouse saga, the
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: taints the entire thing with a more darker motive, Spartacus International.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: In June of nineteen eighty two, when the police first
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 1: rated the Elm Guesthouse, it was noted and reported at
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 1: the time that there was a sign hanging outside of
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: the home which read Spartacus Club Welcome. That's weird, right,
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 1: what does that mean? Well, what's even weirder is the
• 1:19:40
  Speaker 1: fact that Spartacus International was none other than a massive
• 1:19:44
  Speaker 1: international predator CP production and snuff film ring that had
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: been operated by an ex British national named John Stamford,
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: who had been forced to flee England because of his
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 1: outspoken beliefs that boy man relationships were completely normal and
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: his herbing checkered criminal passed. You see, John's evil actions
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 1: had finally caught up to him and he had been
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 1: recently charged with operating a CP service through the mail
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 1: in England, but before he could be brought to justice,
• 1:20:11
  Speaker 1: he fled to another country, escaped the authorities, and started
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 1: up his horrific child abuse CP ring once again. But
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: this thing gets even crazier. Remember Frank Sheldon, the multi
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 1: millionaire owner of North Fox Island, the original American Epstein
• 1:20:26
  Speaker 1: Island that I've talked about extensively on all my social media.
• 1:20:30
  Speaker 1: Well for a refresher if you don't remember, Frank Sheldon
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: ran one of the largest predator and snuff film rings
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 1: in the entire United States, with one of its headquarters
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 1: having been located on a private island named North Fox
• 1:20:43
  Speaker 1: Island in Lake Michigan. For an episode of my show
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 1: The Paranormal Files, I actually traveled all the way out
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 1: to that island in Michigan to expose the horrific things
• 1:20:52
  Speaker 1: that happened there. And I've been on the trail of
• 1:20:54
  Speaker 1: Frank Sheldon for years now with my personal research. Frank Sheldon,
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 1: similar to John Stanford, also operated a CP service through
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: the mail where predators across the globe could donate to
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 1: Frank's fake charity in exchange for the materials to be
• 1:21:09
  Speaker 1: mailed to them. When police finally caught wind of what
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: Frank Sheldon was doing in Michigan, a raid was planned,
• 1:21:14
  Speaker 1: but before the search and arrest warrants could be executed
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: against Frank, he was tipped off by somebody inside and
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: managed to flee the country, never having been held accountable
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: for his crimes, and officially, according to Wikipedia and the
• 1:21:27
  Speaker 1: authorities here in America, that's where the story of Frank
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 1: Sheldon ends, but his story definitely didn't end there. In fact,
• 1:21:33
  Speaker 1: in reality, that was where the horrifically evil saga of
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 1: Frank Sheldon really began. After fleeing the United States, Frank
• 1:21:40
  Speaker 1: landed in Amsterdam and took up residence there, and one
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: of the things that he immediately began to work on
• 1:21:45
  Speaker 1: in his new home country was the establishment of a
• 1:21:48
  Speaker 1: brand new pro predator magazine that he self published titled
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 1: Pan or Alert News, a magazine about boy love, which
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 1: he published under the fake pen name Frank Tory and Pan.
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: Frank Sheldon's new magazine that he had just begun publishing
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: after he escaped justice in America, was published in Europe
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: by a publishing house run by none other than John Stamford,
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: the man who had escape justice in the United Kingdom
• 1:22:13
  Speaker 1: by fleeing the country after being charged with operating a
• 1:22:17
  Speaker 1: through the male CP delivery service. It seems as though
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 1: Frank Sheldon and John Stamford had committed the exact same
• 1:22:23
  Speaker 1: crimes and had escaped their home countries in the exact
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 1: same manner. It was practically written in the stars that
• 1:22:29
  Speaker 1: these two predators were meant to be the most evil
• 1:22:32
  Speaker 1: of best friends. And when John Stamford eventually started up
• 1:22:35
  Speaker 1: Spartacus International, a company engineered specifically to serve predators as
• 1:22:40
  Speaker 1: their clientele, Frank Sheldon became intimately involved. Spartacus International was
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 1: a network of locations and people that essentially served young
• 1:22:48
  Speaker 1: children to men on silver platters for a price. They
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 1: even published guidebooks on child tourism that instructed predators on
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 1: how to travel to foreign countries, how to find children
• 1:22:58
  Speaker 1: to groom and victimize, and how to get away with
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: their crimes. According to an article published in The Daily
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 1: Times in nineteen ninety five, quote NAMBLA or the North
• 1:23:07
  Speaker 1: American boy Lovers Association officials also don't deny that several
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 1: of the group's members belong to Club Spartacus. The names
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 1: of the Westchester members of Club Spartacus were discovered, along
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 1: with thousands of other men and women, in the London
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 1: computers of a British Man, John Stamford, fifty five, who
• 1:23:24
  Speaker 1: was identified by authorities as a Club Spartacus official. According
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 1: to FBI and other federal law enforcement records. Club Spartacus,
• 1:23:32
  Speaker 1: according to one investigative document, is a clandestine organization that
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 1: operates through a box number in London. Vital information on
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: each member stored on a computer and guarded with secret codes,
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 1: include their sexual preferences, the desired age of the children,
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 1: and preferred country of origin. Members receive personal lists of children,
• 1:23:50
  Speaker 1: mainly from outside Europe, and are invited to select a
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 1: child and indicate the choice to a local middleman. Notice
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 1: how they note that the operations of Club Spartacus were
• 1:23:59
  Speaker 1: opted through a box number in London, same city as
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: the Elm Guesthouse to which John Stamford has already been
• 1:24:07
  Speaker 1: connected in paperwork and documents. So, just to reiterate, Frank
• 1:24:11
  Speaker 1: Sheldon was producing CP and allegedly financing snuff films in America.
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: He then escaped to Amsterdam. There he linked up with
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: another guy who was producing CP and snuff films as well.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: They then started publishing a predator magazine together and working
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: on a clandestine organization called Club Spartacus or Spartacus International,
• 1:24:31
  Speaker 1: an organization formed in order to find and groom victims
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: to be provided to other predators across the world. Spartacus
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: Club also head a headquarters in London. Now we need
• 1:24:40
  Speaker 1: to hop back for a moment. Remember that border agent
• 1:24:43
  Speaker 1: that allegedly stopped Leon Britton, the British Attorney General, at
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: the border and discovered that he was trying to bring
• 1:24:49
  Speaker 1: CP into the country from Amsterdam. That should be noted
• 1:24:53
  Speaker 1: that's where Sheldon and Stamford were located at the time.
• 1:24:55
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty two, journalists uncovered another incident a similar
• 1:24:59
  Speaker 1: in involving a man who was stopped at the border
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 1: named Russell Tricker, whose films and videotapes were confiscated and
• 1:25:06
  Speaker 1: contained violent CP. These violent CP tapes, videos and photos
• 1:25:11
  Speaker 1: were confiscated by a customs officer named Solonky at the
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 1: Port of Dover. Tricker, the guy who was arrested, ran
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  Speaker 1: a service called Toff's Travel, a coach service known for
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  Speaker 1: smuggling boys into Amsterdam during the nineteen eighties to be
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  Speaker 1: used by men and Russell Tricker was linked on paper
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  Speaker 1: to Spartacus International commercial agent Peter Glencross. Peter Glencross himself
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  Speaker 1: has been named in multiple documents as being a person
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  Speaker 1: who frequently visited the Elm Guesthouse. Among the confiscated materials
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  Speaker 1: found at the border, amongst Russell Tricker's of Violent CP
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  Speaker 1: was a film canister labeled LB, which sparked speculation that
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  Speaker 1: it involved Leon Britten, the British Attorney General, and the
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  Speaker 1: allegations of abuse that at the time had begun to
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  Speaker 1: surround him. According to the official story, though this connection
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  Speaker 1: was ultimately incorrect. You can believe whatever you want about that.
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  Speaker 1: But the border officer Solonk, who had confiscated all this stuff,
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  Speaker 1: citing the Official Secrets Act, declined to comment to the
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  Speaker 1: journalists who asked him about the confiscation and what exactly
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  Speaker 1: they found. But he did mention another incident that he
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  Speaker 1: knew about that involved Leon Britton, the British Attorney General,
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  Speaker 1: and allegations of him being a predator and materials that
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  Speaker 1: were found on his presence, which he confirmed during an
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  Speaker 1: interview with Operation Fernbridge detectives years later. Well, the connections
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  Speaker 1: between all these individuals just get stronger and darker. As
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  Speaker 1: it turned out, Carol Cassier, the woman who unlived herself,
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  Speaker 1: the former owner and operator of the Elm Guesthouse, had
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  Speaker 1: died and her death was investigated, and authorities at the
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  Speaker 1: time suspected that she had been connected to none other
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  Speaker 1: than Sidney Cook, who we discussed earlier in this episode,
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  Speaker 1: the predator who ran the Predator Gang and supposedly oversaw
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  Speaker 1: the of twenty children on film, and the footage of these,
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  Speaker 1: according to inside sources, was to be sold as snuff
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  Speaker 1: films for a high price. Weird though that Carol Cassire
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  Speaker 1: has been linked to Sidney Cook through different connections and documents.
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  Speaker 1: The investigation of the link between Sidney Cook, snuff Films
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  Speaker 1: and the Elm Guesthouse was launched after the discovery of
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  Speaker 1: the crimes of another separate predator that I've previously covered
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  Speaker 1: on the Conspiracy Files, Warrick Spinks if you don't remember,
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  Speaker 1: Warrick Spinx was a man who was funding, procuring boys
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  Speaker 1: for it, and selling snuff films on the black market
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  Speaker 1: in Amsterdam, where Frank Sheldon and John Stamford were headquartered
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  Speaker 1: at the same time, and all these people were indeed interconnected.
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  Speaker 1: It seems that John Stamford, the founder and operator of
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  Speaker 1: Spartacus International, knew Frank Sheldon, and that the two of
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  Speaker 1: them knew people at the Elm Guesthouse, and that those
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  Speaker 1: people at the Elm Guesthouse knew Sidney Cook, and that
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  Speaker 1: Sidney Cook also knew Warrick Spinks. It's a big trail,
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  Speaker 1: a big red line that goes through all these people.
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  Speaker 1: But back to John Stamford and Spartacus Club. A curious
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  Speaker 1: note appeared in a German tabloid in the year nineteen
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  Speaker 1: ninety two, when the following excerpt was published. Scotland Yard,
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  Speaker 1: the famous London police has a terrible suspicion. Stamford filmed
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  Speaker 1: twenty boys after he's in England on these perverse films.
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  Speaker 1: After the children have been repeatedly by men they have been.
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  Speaker 4: Hmm.
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  Speaker 1: So John Stamford was himself accused of creating snuff films
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  Speaker 1: like it was alleged before. And John Stamford's best friend's
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  Speaker 1: buddy buddy with Frank Sheldon who was accused of creating
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  Speaker 1: snuff films and people at the Elm Guesthouse have been
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  Speaker 1: accused of creating snuff films, but there's no evidence of that.
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  Speaker 1: There's no link. Well, a few years prior to this
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  Speaker 1: article being published in that German tabloid in July of
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  Speaker 1: nineteen ninety, a teenager named Andrew Ash spoke out about
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  Speaker 1: what he had witnessed at the guesthouse. At the time
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  Speaker 1: of his allegations, he was staying with Mary Moss, the
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  Speaker 1: whistleblower who we discussed at the beginning of this story,
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  Speaker 1: the woman who received materials from Carol Cassier, who published
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  Speaker 1: lists and linked documents, and who had spoken out against
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  Speaker 1: the Elm Guesthouse for decades. In July of nineteen ninety, Andrew,
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  Speaker 1: when he was talking to Mary Moss, claimed he was
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  Speaker 1: taken to Amsterdam in nineteen eighty eight by a group
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  Speaker 1: of men from London and forced to film in a
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  Speaker 1: warehouse where a twelve year old boy was successively by
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  Speaker 1: twelve men with chains by a motorcycle and his body
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  Speaker 1: dumped in a canal. And remember Andrew himself was an
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  Speaker 1: alleged victim of the group at the Elm Guesthouse. Andrew
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  Speaker 1: serves to connect the rings of snuff film producers that
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  Speaker 1: are operated both in England and in Amsterdam and the
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  Speaker 1: Elm Guesthouse. Andrew is a link between Warick Spinks, the
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  Speaker 1: guy who I already talked about in another video, and
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  Speaker 1: the ELM Guesthouse. He's the link between Sidney Cook and
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  Speaker 1: Warrick Spinks and the guesthouse in Sheldon and all these people.
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  Speaker 1: So all this information raises so many questions. Was the
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  Speaker 1: Elm Guesthouse a venue where snuff films were recorded? Were
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  Speaker 1: some of the boys victimized at the guest house then
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  Speaker 1: taken off property to be on camera? Was Martin Allen
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  Speaker 1: the chauf Firs's son abducted, victimized and then killed as
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  Speaker 1: a part of a snuff film? Did Vishan Morotra suffer
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  Speaker 1: the same fate? Remember, as noted, the Elm Guesthouse came
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  Speaker 1: fully equipped with a video production studio. This was reported
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  Speaker 1: in the press at the time, and noted not only
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  Speaker 1: in police reports, but in the actual advertisements of the
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  Speaker 1: Elm Guesthouse itself that they published in newspapers. And if
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  Speaker 1: you still don't think that there was any connection here,
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  Speaker 1: remember that sign that hung outside of the Elm Guesthouse
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  Speaker 1: on the day of the raid, Spartacus Club Welcome. So,
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  Speaker 1: as you can see clearly spelled out within this web
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  Speaker 1: of interconnected evil, there's a pattern, a flow to the abuse,
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  Speaker 1: and a network of predators that remains officially uninvestigated, unconnected
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  Speaker 1: and unreported upon to this very day. Why was there
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  Speaker 1: no justice in this case? Why have investigators never taken
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: a hard look at just what happened at the Elm Guesthouse.
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  Speaker 1: Why do authorities refuse to listen to and believe victims?
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  Speaker 1: What dark truths are they afraid would be exposed if
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  Speaker 1: this were all to ever come to light. There's a
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: lot of information out there about the Elm Guesthouse and
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  Speaker 1: what went on there. With the well known history of
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: VIPs committing crimes against children in the UK, it's no
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 1: surprise that information time and time again disappeared in this case.
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  Speaker 1: But here are some of my closing thoughts. Even with
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  Speaker 1: so many victims making statements, they weren't taken seriously. Individuals
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  Speaker 1: like Cyril Smith, who was a known predator, still got
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: and continued to get knighted. That in itself provides insight
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  Speaker 1: into how ingrained and I hate to say, accepted, predatorial
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  Speaker 1: behavior is in some of the higher class social circles
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  Speaker 1: in the UK. Take Sir Jimmy Savill, a BBC children's
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  Speaker 1: television presenter who had four hundred and fifty victims, mostly
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  Speaker 1: young boys and girls as young as eight, over a
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: period of fifty years authorities laughed at and ignored his
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: victims until their cries eventually became too loud, too public
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 1: to ignore. Or what about Operation U Tree, which saw
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 1: eighteen TV presenters, comedians, DJs and other people in show
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  Speaker 1: business arrested for crimes against children. How many people over
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: time were paid off or turned a blind eye because
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: of the abuser's status. How many people were told to
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: stay silent because the information may cause public outrage. How
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 1: many children have to suffer abuse because it's bad press
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 1: or a danger to national security if the truth gets out.
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: How many children were victimized at the Elm Guesthouse And
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  Speaker 1: why has no one, not one single person ever been
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  Speaker 1: prosecuted for it. Well I have your answer to all
• 1:32:22
  Speaker 1: those questions right here. Remember, according to the authorities in England.
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  Speaker 1: That's because none of what I just described to you
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  Speaker 1: ever really happened. It's all one big lie. And seeing
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 1: these denials from the government, and witnessing the lack of
• 1:32:35
  Speaker 1: justice for themselves from the tips of their castles and
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: from their lush seats in Parliament, those predators in power
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 1: simply continue to look down on us normal people and
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 1: laugh and smile, knowing that they got away with it. Wow, guys,
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 1: that was the longest episode I think that we've ever done.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys for watching. If you want to see
• 1:32:57
  Speaker 1: the full documentary, it's going to be on my YouTube
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 1: Channell the Paranormal Files. We visited the Elm guest House,
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  Speaker 1: We visited the Grafton Closed Children's Home and we actually
• 1:33:06
  Speaker 1: were able to go inside of it. We visited Dolphin
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  Speaker 1: Square and we did so much investigating on the ground
• 1:33:13
  Speaker 1: in London. It's powerful. It's really powerful stuff. But anyways,
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  Speaker 1: thank you all so much for listening to today's episode.
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  Speaker 1: I really do hope not that you enjoyed it, but
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  Speaker 1: this took a lot of effort to connect all of
• 1:33:24
  Speaker 1: these dots. I really want to shout out Simon Dovey
• 1:33:26
  Speaker 1: and his book The Eye of the Chicken Hawk for
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: pointing out so much stuff. To Rebecca who wrote some
• 1:33:31
  Speaker 1: of this script with me, and yeah, this was like
• 1:33:33
  Speaker 1: a thirty five page script, so there was a lot
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: of information in this and it's all real. It's all true.
• 1:33:38
  Speaker 1: You can verify all of it in the on the
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: resources document in the description. But anyways, I love you guys,
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  Speaker 1: I'll see you next week. Keep that tinfoil hat on.
• 1:33:46
  Speaker 1: Always question everything and stay suspicious