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Almost Famous OG: TV Romance That Stands The Test of Time with Desiree Siegfried · The Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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  Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with on our radio.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome back, everybody, It's the almost famous og podcast. It's
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  Speaker 1: Trista back with you today. I'm so so excited because
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  Speaker 1: today I get to deep dive with someone you all
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  Speaker 1: know and love me too. She's a friend of mine
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  Speaker 1: from Gosh. I guess it's probably eleven years ago, since
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  Speaker 1: she's well, maybe ten, because she's been married for almost
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  Speaker 1: eleven years. Crazy. We first met her on season seventeen
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  Speaker 1: of The Bachelor with Sean Lowe, and then again when
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  Speaker 1: she was the star of the Bachelorette for season nine.
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  Speaker 1: Please welcome Desire Siegfried. All right, beautiful, how are you?
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  Speaker 1: How is life? How are the babies.
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  Speaker 2: I'm good.
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  Speaker 3: I've been so busy, I mean, having the new little guys,
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  Speaker 3: like really, I mean has changed our world in the
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  Speaker 3: best way. But I'm just I literally I can't believe,
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  Speaker 3: like a year has already almost gone by, Like I
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  Speaker 3: don't know, I just can't even.
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  Speaker 2: I just can't, like for real, he's almost a year old. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's almost a year old already. Yeah, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I you know, we considered having more, but
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  Speaker 1: because of the way my body handled pregnancies, I was like, yeah, no,
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  Speaker 1: we're done, and we got a boy and a girl,
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  Speaker 1: so we're good. So how is it? Like I always
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  Speaker 1: heard that having a third makes things exponentially harder. How
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  Speaker 1: are you feeling?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's just he's just so busy, Like
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  Speaker 3: I think he's just trying to keep up with his brothers.
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  Speaker 3: So it's like, I just I just have never known
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  Speaker 3: a busy like he is, like so busy, Like he
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  Speaker 3: has the biggest fomo I have ever seen in anyone.
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  Speaker 2: Except maybe his dad Chris is got fomo. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: he's got it. It's super cute. Yeah, it's super cute.
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  Speaker 3: I mean it is challenging because I'm homeschooling too, so
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  Speaker 3: I'm I'm trying.
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  Speaker 2: To just navigate, like I'm navigating.
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  Speaker 3: The best I can, you know, and he's he's actually
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  Speaker 3: a really great baby, so he makes it.
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  Speaker 2: He makes it fun. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Good. And the boys are just they just love on him,
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  Speaker 1: or the big wrestlers or what are they just.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they wrestle each other. But yeah, oh it's
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  Speaker 2: so cute. It's so cute. I don't think like anyone
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  Speaker 2: can prepare you for just like watching you're older, because
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  Speaker 2: we have the age gap.
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  Speaker 3: You know, we have six years from Xander to Noah.
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  Speaker 2: And it's really fun to see how.
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  Speaker 3: The older boys, like, you know, he wakes up from
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  Speaker 3: his nap and everyone goes rushing in. Like I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: this boy is gonna like not know what it's like
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  Speaker 3: to not have people, you know, loving on him at
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  Speaker 3: all times.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's and that's a really good problem to have.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. I love that they are just and
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  Speaker 1: because they're home and homeschooling, like they truly are there
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  Speaker 1: all the time. How is the homeschooling going. Are you
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  Speaker 1: enjoying it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean to be completely honest, I like in the beginning,
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  Speaker 3: I was like, absolutely not, I will never homeschool, Like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I could never because I wasn't a stay at home
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  Speaker 3: mom either, and so I was working on a business
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  Speaker 3: and so I think in your mind when you're doing
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  Speaker 3: those things, it's like, oh my gosh, I could never.
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  Speaker 3: But in hindsight, I realize it's only we just say
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  Speaker 3: that because we don't know what we don't know. And so, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: homeschooling has been the biggest blessing I have ever. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: like the blessing I didn't know I needed. So I
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  Speaker 3: recommend it to everybody.
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  Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. Yeah, I'm definitely one
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  Speaker 1: of those people who was like I will never and
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  Speaker 1: I didn't ever.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's definitely yeah, there's definitely like you know,
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  Speaker 3: there's definitely some challenges that you work through it and
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  Speaker 3: then it's just so it's so great. Like I think
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  Speaker 3: my favorite part is just being able to see how
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  Speaker 3: my boys like work and operate and.
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  Speaker 2: The way they think.
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  Speaker 3: And I don't know, I think that's been the greatest
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  Speaker 3: joy of just being able to see like what motivates them,
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  Speaker 3: what they're interested in, and I can be a part
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  Speaker 3: of that, you know, not just secondary, but really be
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  Speaker 3: involved and help them grow and you know, thrive and
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  Speaker 3: whatever they're interested in.
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  Speaker 1: Oh of course, my gosh, that is a huge blessing.
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  Speaker 1: Just more time, I mean, as I think, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I have a senior and a junior and just yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's like thinking about my kids leaving, I oh, I
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  Speaker 1: wish for those days back again. So I get it, like,
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  Speaker 1: spend as much time.
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  Speaker 3: I know, think that they'll stay they'll stay in it
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  Speaker 3: near you do you think that they'll stay in Colorado?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Actually, Max has twenty schools on his list right now.
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  Speaker 2: Oh wow.
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  Speaker 1: That is just because the only thing he really said
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  Speaker 1: to me when I asked where he wants to go
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  Speaker 1: to start putting schools on his list was he wanted
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  Speaker 1: to go somewhere warm.
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  Speaker 2: So that's not a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: Inside. So Ryan and I have just added schools onto
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  Speaker 1: his list that we think that he would vibe and
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  Speaker 1: would be good for him. And we're going to go
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  Speaker 1: out to California and go see some schools for fall break.
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  Speaker 1: So that should be fun. But yeah, it is a
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  Speaker 1: crazy journey. Does buckle up your seatbelt because holy cow.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, I have friends who have like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: the like eleven twelve, like getting into like puberty, and
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  Speaker 3: I'm just oh, I am, I just dons.
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  Speaker 1: I mean we are, especially with all boys.
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  Speaker 2: All boys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like they're already I feel like they're.
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  Speaker 2: Already stinky, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I Like, I like, how in the world can a
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  Speaker 3: six year old have like, you know, but because they're playing.
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  Speaker 2: Sports and oh, in their shoes like they're stinky.
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  Speaker 1: Oh no, oh my gosh. Okay, So we are on
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  Speaker 1: the OG podcast, so we do have to take it
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  Speaker 1: back all the way to the beginning. So can you
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  Speaker 1: tell all of our listeners how you got started, Like,
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  Speaker 1: did you nominate yourself or did someone else nominate you?
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  Speaker 1: For Sean season? Did you know who Sean was? All
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  Speaker 1: the things?
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  Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, let's go back into memory lane.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: It's like sometimes I'm like I forget, you know, I'm like,
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  Speaker 3: I've life is just happens, and I'm like, oh, yeah
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  Speaker 3: we met on a show. Yeah, so yeah, I was.
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  Speaker 3: I was just fresh out of her well. I was
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  Speaker 3: like a year out of her relationship that I was like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, and so I just was like open to anything,
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  Speaker 3: and I felt ready. I felt way more ready than
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  Speaker 3: I had. You know, I was only twenty six, but
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  Speaker 3: I still felt so ready. It's so funny as you
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  Speaker 3: get older, you're like, oh.
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  Speaker 2: You think you're just at all?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah six, But no, I was just in a time
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  Speaker 3: of life that where I was like I just need something.
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  Speaker 3: I was super broke in LA, and I was like
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what I'm doing. I didn't have any
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  Speaker 3: family to help support like in LA, and honestly, I
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  Speaker 3: felt lost because I wanted to do design, but I like,
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  Speaker 3: I didn't have the money to do any of that.
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  Speaker 2: So anyways, I was just ready.
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  Speaker 3: It was like the time of life where I was
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  Speaker 3: just ready and I had only watched Your Way, and
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  Speaker 3: I had only watched like a little.
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  Speaker 2: Bit of another episode. Like so I obviously knew of.
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  Speaker 3: The Bachelor Bachelorette, but I obviously I did not know
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  Speaker 3: like the depth of it. So I walked in one
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  Speaker 3: day in my roommate was watching the show and I
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  Speaker 3: was like.
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  Speaker 2: Huh, you know, I'm like that.
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  Speaker 3: Looks I mean, this is what's going in my head.
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  Speaker 3: I literally was like that looks easy.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: Because because I had always had guy friends and I
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  Speaker 3: was always like, you know, I was always a guys
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  Speaker 3: girl where I could like hang out. I always had like,
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  Speaker 3: you know, friends that were brothers, you know, and I'm
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  Speaker 3: like hanging out with guys and like traveling the world
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  Speaker 3: like great.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe there's one I like awesome. I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I was very naive, but.
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  Speaker 3: So I I think I just sat on it for
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  Speaker 3: a while and I was like, there's no way, like
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  Speaker 3: this is weird, and then I just apply online. I
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  Speaker 3: think there's like a question of like why do you
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  Speaker 3: want to date online? And I mean, why do you
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  Speaker 3: want to date you know, on a show. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 3: I just said something kind of like witty or like
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  Speaker 3: kind of silly, and then they just called it was
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  Speaker 3: perfect timing.
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  Speaker 2: Honestly, it was all god. It was all god like.
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  Speaker 3: It was perfect timing because I didn't know when they
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  Speaker 3: started doing casting and I didn't know when the show started.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know any of.
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  Speaker 3: That, and it was just perfect timing because like they
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  Speaker 3: called me back the like the next day, I did
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  Speaker 3: an interview, and I still was so like, yeah, that's
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  Speaker 3: not happening, like down to like going to casting, like
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  Speaker 3: the casting weekend.
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  Speaker 2: You know, there's like one hundred people.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, And I was literally like, yeah, this isn't really.
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  Speaker 2: Going to happen. And even to a point of when they.
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  Speaker 3: Gave me the contract, I was just like I read
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  Speaker 3: like the clause or whatever or like something where it's
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  Speaker 3: like you could be back up like where you're not
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  Speaker 3: actually going on.
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  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, that's probably that's probably it.
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  Speaker 3: Like I was working NonStop, I didn't have time to
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  Speaker 3: think about going on a show, and.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, it was really odd. But I it.
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  Speaker 3: Was all just so surreal because I'm like, I'm very
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  Speaker 3: introverted and I'm very reserved and so my friends were
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  Speaker 3: just like, what, like, you're going on to writing.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know what, I think that's I think
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  Speaker 3: that was in my benefit because I didn't need to
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  Speaker 3: go on the show, and so I was super relaxed.
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  Speaker 3: I was myself, and I honestly think that really helped,
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  Speaker 3: not knowing a lot.
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  Speaker 1: About the show, Yeah, totally, to just I can see that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, to just be like, yeah, this is me and
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  Speaker 3: if it works, it works. If it doesn't, it doesn't,
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  Speaker 3: and yeah, I just really left it. I honestly left
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  Speaker 3: it to my faith. I was like, you know, God,
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  Speaker 3: if this is a door that's gonna open, like great,
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  Speaker 3: I will trust you in it.
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  Speaker 2: And if it doesn't, like I'm totally fine.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, I feel like we have similar stories in that. Obviously,
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  Speaker 1: you know the show had been going on before you
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  Speaker 1: went on, and you saw my wedding. But I went
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  Speaker 1: into it too, not having any clue, Like I didn't
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  Speaker 1: know what I was doing because it was brand new.
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  Speaker 2: You were the first. Yeah, because I was.
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  Speaker 1: Just relaxed and like, if I want to you know,
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  Speaker 1: I want to travel, I want to meet somebody maybe
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  Speaker 1: and maybe well, like it's very all the things that
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  Speaker 1: you're saying, are like you could just copy paste into
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  Speaker 1: my story.
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  Speaker 2: I feel like I love that. I have never actually
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  Speaker 2: never really thought about that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, you didn't have any like blueprint to follow ool,
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  Speaker 3: oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: It was just, you know, I wanted to just go
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  Speaker 1: for fun and do something new and travel and meet
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  Speaker 1: people and whatever. Yeah. I love it. I love that. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: do you remember getting out of the limo kind of please?
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  Speaker 1: You have three children, so, mommy brain is a real struggle.
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  Speaker 1: I mean I have two.
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  Speaker 3: I mean I do briefly, like I mean, I mean
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  Speaker 3: I was the last out of the limo.
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  Speaker 1: In my look Okay, well that okay, So for people
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  Speaker 1: who watch the show, you know that the last out
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  Speaker 1: of the limo is usually somebody that they think, this
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  Speaker 1: is the girl who's gonna stay for a long time.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe yeah, I think so the last out of the
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  Speaker 1: limo for sure, first out of the limo, last out
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  Speaker 1: of the limo. Yeah, Ryan was the last out of
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  Speaker 1: the first limo. Yeah, so maybe there's something to that too.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, I don't know.
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  Speaker 2: I to go back. I don't even know. When I
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  Speaker 2: saw Chris, there was so many, it's so overwhelming. I
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  Speaker 2: was just like, oh my gosh, this is.
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  Speaker 1: So much, especially for somebody who is introverted, Like oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like the overwhelm of the cameras in the and all
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  Speaker 1: the things.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it wasn't even I didn't actually realize I was
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  Speaker 3: so introverted until the show.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's really interesting.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because I mean since, like you know, since like
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  Speaker 3: high school, I was just busy working and I was
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  Speaker 3: always around people, and so I never really thought I
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  Speaker 3: was introverted.
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  Speaker 2: I just didn't know. But the show really helped.
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  Speaker 3: Being on the show, being on the lead part, I realized, like, wow,
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  Speaker 3: like I get overwhelmed super easy when there's just too
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  Speaker 3: much going on, and like I can't like think for myself.
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  Speaker 1: I feel like it's interesting. They just came out with
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  Speaker 1: a new personality type. You know, it's introvert and extrovert
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  Speaker 1: and there's something in the middle. I can't remember what
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  Speaker 1: they called it. And I was like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I feel that way too, because I feel like both,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the two of us, whenever we're together in
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  Speaker 1: like a social environment, we're very social people. But I
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  Speaker 1: definitely can like get overwhelmed and need like just to
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  Speaker 1: sit down and be in quiet or watch a show
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  Speaker 1: by myself or what do my laundry? Whatever? So I
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  Speaker 1: feel like there's there's something to that where you're you're
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  Speaker 1: a great extrovert, but you're also a great introvert, like
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like it's more of like
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  Speaker 2: I can.
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  Speaker 3: Turn it on when I need to, Yeah, but like
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  Speaker 3: deep down, like like after events like I am burnt out,
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  Speaker 3: and I think what helped me too.
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  Speaker 2: I forget when who it was.
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  Speaker 3: It was like a book, but it helped me understand
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  Speaker 3: is like you're either introverted or extroverted depending on how
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  Speaker 3: you recharge. And I think that's so important because I
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  Speaker 3: feel like when people think introverted, they're like, oh, so
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  Speaker 3: you're just like little quiet in the corner. It's not
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  Speaker 3: that it's that I can be social and I can.
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  Speaker 3: I can, you know, turn it on, but like by
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  Speaker 3: the end of the night, I am waxed. I need
• 14:51
  Speaker 3: to go to bed, and then I probably need like
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  Speaker 3: a whole twenty four hours till I can feel like,
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  Speaker 3: oh okay, like I feel good now.
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  Speaker 1: You know, yeah, and then flash forward to God giving
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  Speaker 1: you three boys.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you guys, I know, especially with this baby
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  Speaker 3: now because like you know, like, okay, I mean my
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  Speaker 3: nervous system is wrecked all day.
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  Speaker 2: Long because I'm like, sure, I'm like, you know.
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  Speaker 3: I have one who loves I have one who just
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  Speaker 3: loves to talk and rap and sing, and and then
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  Speaker 3: the other one's tear being tapping and drumming, and and
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  Speaker 3: then we have the baby, and I'm like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm like, I need to go hide.
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: You need one of those she sheds? Do you have
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  Speaker 1: one on your property?
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  Speaker 2: I so I.
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  Speaker 1: Need a yes, yes, a little escape.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So back to Sean season. Were you and Catherine close?
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  Speaker 1: Like you you went and tell what when did he
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  Speaker 1: send you home?
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  Speaker 2: Fourth?
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  Speaker 3: After hometowns, after my big brother, you know, my brother,
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  Speaker 3: and yes, your brother.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I totally remember. The whole world was like,
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  Speaker 1: why are you being like this?
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  Speaker 3: I know?
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  Speaker 1: Do you still talk to him? I mean, are you
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  Speaker 1: guys close? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: I mean I wouldn't say we were ever like close,
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  Speaker 3: but yeah we we talk now.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: It's good, okay, good, Okay. So you were four.
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  Speaker 3: I was four, So I feel like what happened is
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  Speaker 3: whoever you were in rooms with you kind of gravitated to.
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  Speaker 3: So I actually didn't even get to talk to Catherine
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  Speaker 3: until like week eight.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, like, oh my gosh, yeah, we didn't even like.
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  Speaker 3: Talk because there were there was like so many groups,
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  Speaker 3: little cliques and.
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  Speaker 1: Who was your person, who was your roommate, the other introverts.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, No, I gravitated to Jackie.
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  Speaker 2: She was the redhead, super.
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  Speaker 1: Cute, Okay, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah Jackie.
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  Speaker 3: And then I actually became really close to Daniella because
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  Speaker 3: she's just like a riot, She's just.
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  Speaker 2: Hilarious, yes, totally, and so she was friends with Catherine and.
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  Speaker 3: Lindsay, and so that's how I started to you know,
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: talk to them. But when I was just too like
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: I did not want to deal with any drama or anything.
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: So I like the first week, I literally when I
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: saw big groups of girls, you know, crowding around, I
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: didn't go near it because I was like, I don't
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: I don't want to get in the gossip and the
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: like all the stuff. And I'm just a little bit
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: especially back then, I was a lot more reserved, a
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: lot more reserved, and so you know, I would talk
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: if people ask me a question, but I wasn't the
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: one to just start a conversation like be out there.
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: And so I, to be honest, I would love to
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: ask the ladies that were on my show, but I
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: feel like so many of them like watch the show
• 18:08
  Speaker 3: back and was like what like because they probably didn't
• 18:11
  Speaker 3: even really they didn't really know me, you know, from
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: just the house.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: But that's fine, that's the beauty.
• 18:18
  Speaker 1: Of it's all good. Yeah, it is what it is. Okay,
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: So after you were eliminated, how soon after did they
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: start talking to you about the bachelorette? And do you
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: know if they were talking to anyone else or just you?
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know who they were talking to.
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: I don't have a clue. I wasn't hiding because back then,
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: you know, they were.
• 18:41
  Speaker 2: Like, right, they hid you. That was honestly, that was
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: actually like I just I mean I okay.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: So I got eliminated and there was still what you know,
• 18:55
  Speaker 3: two more weeks or so yep, and so I had
• 18:58
  Speaker 3: to stay with three Yeah it felt like it felt
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: like an eternity.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: But I had to stay with a handler.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: And we went from like Airbnb to Airbnb, and and
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: I was not in the know.
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Like every morning I'm like can I go home?
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: Like can I please go home like I mean also
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: at this point, like I'm broke, like I need to
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: go work, like yeah, so like I felt like this,
• 19:24
  Speaker 3: like oh my gosh, like I don't know how much
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: longer I'm going to be here. I also need to
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: pay my bills and and.
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: I didn't know. So uh. It was around what the
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: third airbnb.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: That they called me to ask and start talking about
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: if I ever wanted to.
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Be the Bachelorette.
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: And was it a call from one of the producers
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: or Mike or or Flice or what.
• 19:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it was from Bennett. So it was
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: from one of the producers, Yeah, just to like see
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: what just to like see interesting where I was.
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yep.
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: And at that point, I don't know, I think I
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: I don't know. I was cautious, I think at that
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: point because like I was kind of like, you know
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: it really you know, you really do get caught up.
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't say I was like I never got to
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: the love part with Sean. And so it's all worked
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: out so the way it was supposed to. But still
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: it's a lot of time to invest in not knowing
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: what will come, you know, Yeah, as I.
• 20:36
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• 20:40
  Speaker 1: energy and takes up your life for sure.
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• 21:30
  Speaker 1: Okay, so you get back to life. You get asked
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: to do bachelorette. How are you feeling about doing bachelorette
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: back then? Were you like, Eh, this isn't going to
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: work out. I'm just going to do it just because
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: it's like the continuation or were you feeling like you
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: had a good chance Because for me, it was like
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: they knew me, they knew like what I was looking for.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: And I've always said, like they're going to find a
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: guy much easier than just little old me living in Miami, Florida.
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, Oh, I mean that's that's a good No.
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: I wasn't there. No, I was like, you were no.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: I mean I lived in LA.
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: I lived in like first I lived in like Orange County,
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: and I lived in LA And then I was like,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: I don't know.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: There wasn't like not to There wasn't a problem of
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: meeting like lots of people, right, And so I didn't
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I didn't feel again, and I put
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: it in God's hands.
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: But I don't know. I was skeptical, I think because
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: you you see how like you know, you have to
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: be super vulnerable and.
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: And I don't know, I don't know.
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I don't know if I was like, yes, I'm doing
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: it at first, But the more that I thought about it,
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: I was really open to the idea because I'm like, what,
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: how awesome, Like maybe my husband is in this batch,
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: you know, like maybe they will.
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Find the right guy.
• 23:00
  Speaker 3: And you know, I didn't have roots anywhere, so I
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: was open to moving anywhere as long as there was
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: like water in the West coast.
• 23:11
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, I don't know.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I was open to it, and so once I decided,
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was all in. But I
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: also didn't want to put too much pressure on meeting
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: my husband in that group, and so I never would say, like,
• 23:28
  Speaker 3: my husband's in the group, not until yeah, like you know,
• 23:32
  Speaker 3: it's the first night. I'm like, I don't know if
• 23:34
  Speaker 3: you're my husband, right?
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: Yes, that's so funny. Yeah, but you say it like that,
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: I love it. So I want to know, was when
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you saw Chris was it like, ah, I love it
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: for sight kind of situation or when did you really
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: think he could be my one?
• 24:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah? He had the best limo entrant and trance.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: What was it? Remind me? I can't remember.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: He just got to show his personality. He was super
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: nervous though, so he was a little shaky. But he
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: got down on one knee and then said like and
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: then he said, do you mind?
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: What did you say?
• 24:22
  Speaker 3: Do you mind if I'd tie my shoe or something?
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: And then he said, I just wanted to get off
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: on the right foot.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: Like but it was so funny, it's so cute.
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: It's so his like quirky personality, and so it was
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: good because it made me laugh, and you know, I
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: was super awkward that like standing there just like with
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: guys coming, I'm like, I.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Don't know what to say. Do I say? You know
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: what I mean? I was super awkward a lot of times.
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean it's.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: Definitely interesting to look back because I'm like, wow, like
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: not my personality.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: To like why did they choose me? But but.
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: Of course they we know why they chose you. I
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: mean for all of the reasons. But I mean, I
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: think it's so funny thinking about it because it really
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: isn't your like cup of tea, no.
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: No, but you know, that's what really helped us stay
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: together and like not focused on what would come next,
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: but actually just going going to to like our back
• 25:26
  Speaker 3: to our life and really growing something that wasn't based
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: off what we can do next.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And I think that helped.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's how it was for me and
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Ryan for sure. I feel like that's one of the secrets.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: And it's really interesting because you and I and our
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: hobbies and I think Jojo and Jordan were kind of
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: the same in that they disappeared and you know, I
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: feel like they disappeared and went back to their life
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: and like startup businesses and whatever. I wonder because the
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: three of us, I don't know if there's any other
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: bachelorettes who are still married. Obviously Ashley and Rachel got
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: married and then got divorced, so I don't know if
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: we're including them. But like, that's really interesting because I
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: feel like there's something to that, like not focusing on,
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: you know, the things that are going on in the
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: whirlwind and really just focusing on your relationship.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: I also think what I've noticed too is when both
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: parties are interested in fame or which is not a
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: bad thing to want from it, but it's but I mean,
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: I do see that when both.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Are pursuing that, then you're in competition with each other,
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: you know.
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: And it's like because you know, if one's gonna get
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: mad that the other is getting more attention, And I
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: don't know, Yep, you would hope.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're right, you were right. But but the fact
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: of the matter is that we come off of the
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: show and we haven't known each other for that long,
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: so we don't have like that really strong foundation of
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: you know, a friendship or years of knowing each other.
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: So yeah, I feel like you really got to buckle
• 27:13
  Speaker 1: down and get to know each other. Oh yeah, okay,
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: so have you heard because well, I guess first of all,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I should talk about the fact that you just did
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: like a major social media cleanse, So tell us about
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: that you were you were off, like are you feeling lighter?
• 27:29
  Speaker 6: And yeah, so I'm not a huge like browser or anything,
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: but it's still like there's still so much poll, right,
• 27:39
  Speaker 6: like even just having it on your phone and just
• 27:42
  Speaker 6: having and if you are posting, then there's even more
• 27:44
  Speaker 6: poll because you're like checking.
• 27:47
  Speaker 4: And no.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I just felt led for the summer to take off
• 27:51
  Speaker 3: social media, and so I was only gonna do two
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: months and then it turned into four months because I
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: got so good at it, and then I.
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: Don't know, yeah, I mean it felt great. Honestly, it
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: was amazing.
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: Like Chris would be like, you know, stuff happened in
• 28:06
  Speaker 3: the world, and you know, I'd.
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: Be so like what you know, and just live in.
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: My life, and I'm just gonna live in my life.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: I loved it because.
• 28:14
  Speaker 3: I yeah, I loved it because you know, I I
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: am also very empathetic, so like even reading people's like
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: hard stories, like I would find myself thinking about that
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: the next day, or like you're and I'm like, why
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: am I carrying everybody's like stuff when I need to
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: be focusing on my family, my marriage, myself.
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: And I don't know. It was beautiful.
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: I honestly recommend it to anybody because it just created
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: a new intention and you can have both.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: And I think that's the key.
• 28:49
  Speaker 3: You don't have to break helps get you started, but
• 28:53
  Speaker 3: you can have a healthy relationship with social media. You know,
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: you just can't let it boss you around and you know,
• 29:00
  Speaker 3: control your impulses and control your thoughts and control everything.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Reach ah.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: Man, I just wish that I could do it, I know,
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: because you know, it is my job and so or
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: one of my jobs, and so I yeah, it's so hard.
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: It's so hard because I get caught up in the
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: in the scroll. And then also you know, with my
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: kid being a senior, like I literally just finished this,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: like I got nominated to post ten pictures for ten
• 29:36
  Speaker 1: days or whatever, you know, a senior, and so it
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: just got me like on my phone all the time
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: because I'm going down the rabbit hole of looking for
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: pictures and video and you know all the things. And
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: with him like graduating soon, like we're going to have
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: to like pull up pictures and take pictures all the things. Right, So, yes,
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: I have found myself glued to my phone. I really
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: need to disconnect.
• 30:00
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the biggest tip that I like, that helped for
• 30:03
  Speaker 3: me because we we've been doing it for years, so
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: it's a habit. Like you literally pick up your phone
• 30:09
  Speaker 3: and your son goes like right there and you're like,
• 30:11
  Speaker 3: I didn't even mean to so for me because I am,
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: my photos are right next to Instagram, and so when
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: I felt that impulse, I would go to my photos
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: and look at albums from the boys when they were little,
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: and oh my gosh, it created like this new gratitude
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: for my life in the present because I would look
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: back and just be so moved, you.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Know, by like when they were babies, or even just
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: Chris and I and we look like babies.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my gosh, Like it was so worth it,
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: right because I spent say, like you're like, I spent
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: thirty minutes scrolling my family, you know, getting filled with
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: like newfound gratitude for my life or I could you know,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: you know, scroll Instagram and is that what does that do.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: For my brain?
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: Oh? I don't even want to think about it. I
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: know Okay, let's get onto a new topic. So okay,
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: so since you had the social media like break cleanse whatever,
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: we were calling it, genius idea, Uh, you might not
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: know about the next bachelorette. Do you know who the
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: next bachelorette is?
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: I did hear?
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: What's her name?
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: Taylor Taylor, Taylor, Frankie, Paul frank.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: I was gonna say Taylor Paul Frankie, Taylor, Taylor, Frankie Paul.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: Yeap. She is from the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: Have you do you know who she is? Have you
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: watched the show before?
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: I know who she is and the gist I guess of.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: What the whole show was about, and like the sex scandal,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: and I think she got another divorce, was it?
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: Yep?
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: I think I have the biography.
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: Down, got it? So what are your thoughts?
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean, I can see why they need.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: They want someone to revive the show and to create
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: that buzz.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: So I think that's great. I think that's wonderful. I
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: think she will bring that.
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: I don't know her personally, Like I don't watch the show,
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: so I don't actually know what kind.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: Of drama ensues.
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: But I will say we did have a friend that
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: was being pursued to be the Bachelor because they were
• 32:32
  Speaker 3: also going to revive The Bachelor, and so they were
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: eyeing people who might have you know, they.
• 32:38
  Speaker 2: Were going to do a new Bachelor, and.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: You know, then they were like they called them back, like, oh, like,
• 32:44
  Speaker 3: we're not going to pursue that because did you see
• 32:47
  Speaker 3: who we have for bachelorette?
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: And he's like yeah, and then they're like, would you
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: like to be on?
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: And you know, I think what it comes down to
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: is if there's wife material there, yep, because like our
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: friends like, no, absolutely not.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: But you know that's where I'm like, I don't know.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: What kind of pool of guys we're going to see
• 33:09
  Speaker 3: and yell, serious they're going to be because of course
• 33:13
  Speaker 3: they don't want a dater of course.
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, she's gorgeous, Yeah, and she's funny, and you know
• 33:20
  Speaker 1: she's if you are drawn to fame at all, she's
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: famous and you know all of these things. So yeah,
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I'm very interested. Ben and I for almost Famous did
• 33:31
  Speaker 1: a podcast when when it was announced, and I have
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the very same like same sentiments like I'm just interested
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: to see I think it was a good idea to
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: pull someone from another show who already has a fan base,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: who's not from The Bachelor a Bachelorette. But I am
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: really interested to see who the guys are going to
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: be and and what the support is going to be
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: because a lot of people I feel like, we're like, no,
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to watch because you know, she's had
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: she has a history, Like I guess she was accused
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: of domestic violence. I think she was in jail, and yeah,
• 34:16
  Speaker 1: she has She's had a couple, she's had. I think
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: she has three kids, maybe with maybe two different I
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: don't know her bio as well as I probably should,
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: but regardless, I'm like, she's one of us. Okay, one divorce.
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: She's had one divorce, and yeah, I don't know her,
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: but I feel like everyone deserves love and forgiveness, and
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: so if she is serious about it and it's going
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: to be entertaining, then why not do it? Like I'm
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: I'm going to welcome her with open arms to our chick.
• 34:52
  Speaker 2: I think it's going to be extremely entertaining.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: And I think that's why it is a good choice,
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: because if that's you know, it's going to be.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: She's unapologetic to who she is, Like she's like, listen,
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: this is me and this is who I'm going to be.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: And I have a lot of respect for that. Like
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: I agree, like me or not, this is who I am.
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: So whatever.
• 35:13
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love it. I think that's great. Yeah,
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: I'll be interested to see the guys.
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: I know me too. Okay, So what would you give
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: her in terms of advice from you know, me and you?
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: It's funny because I get this question and I'm like,
• 35:39
  Speaker 1: our world has changed so much and I don't even
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: know if the advice that I would give is applicable
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: because it was so long ago. I mean twenty almost
• 35:51
  Speaker 1: by almost twenty five years ago.
• 35:54
  Speaker 2: That's incredible. So you guys are awesome. You guys are goals.
• 35:59
  Speaker 2: That's a goal. I love it.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: Thank you so cute every day. But so I feel
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: like the advice that I would give is maybe a
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: little irrelevant. But what would you say something that might
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: help her in her journey?
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah? It is, It is true.
• 36:17
  Speaker 3: I mean they have to navigate a like we I
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: did navigate social media when it was like brand new,
• 36:23
  Speaker 3: and people were like, I'm so excited to just tell
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: you everything that they thought about you.
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: But I feel like, you know, they grew That sounds
• 36:32
  Speaker 2: so crazy.
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: They grew up in this world social media.
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, how old is that?
• 36:39
  Speaker 6: I know?
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: But oh I know right well, you look amazing by
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the way, Oh you're sissy, You look amazing. You have
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: not changed a bit.
• 36:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I honestly it's hard to say.
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: It's so hard to say, because I would say, you know,
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: put your like, put your relationship first.
• 36:58
  Speaker 2: Like, But for saying like advice for the show, because.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: No advice for her like in her journey on Bachelorette.
• 37:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think she's got it because she's been on
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: reality TV. I don't think she needs advice on being
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: on the show. I think she's gonna kill it and
• 37:15
  Speaker 3: be awesome to watch. In terms of relationship though, yeah,
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: I think that if she's really.
• 37:21
  Speaker 2: Serious about the guy, to truly focus on that.
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, Yeah, great advice. Do you talk to any
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: of the guys from your season obviously besides your husband?
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Yeah, we used to stay in touch with quite a few,
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: but you know, life everyone started having kids and you know,
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: life happened. But yeah, we I mean we stayed Chris
• 37:42
  Speaker 3: stayed in touch with like the four that he kind
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: of hung out with.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, now we no, not really.
• 37:50
  Speaker 3: No, not unless people came up to Seattle when we
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: were in Seattle, then maybe we would see them.
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Okay, And Chris never watched the show? Is that still true?
• 37:59
  Speaker 2: He was the show, He just didn't he watched the show.
• 38:04
  Speaker 1: Oh I thought he never watched it.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: No, he watched it. Yeah, he watched the show. I
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: would watch ahead of.
• 38:09
  Speaker 3: Time, and sometimes I'd be like I would just warn him,
• 38:12
  Speaker 3: you know, like, oh, got it, maybe you shouldn't watch
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: this episode or like watch it knowing him He watched
• 38:19
  Speaker 3: it regardless, but I would just say, like, you know,
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: this might be one you could sit out.
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: Got it.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Maybe that's what I'm getting wrong is maybe there was
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: an episode that he didn't watch.
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: Probably yeadly.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Okay, So will you or have you shown the boys
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: any of the show And do they understand that that's
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: where you met?
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: No, so not yet. And so this is it's funny
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: because this is like.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: We're on the cusp of that where Yeah, I actually
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: just told Chris like the other week, like I think
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: it's time, like we really need to, you know, sit
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: down with them and talk to them, because I mean
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: but you know what, because we live in a world
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: of social media and podcast and Chris's work is very
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: like sales, so he puts himself out there.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: I don't think they understand that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 3: They know that people might come up to us, but
• 39:11
  Speaker 3: you know, mom has a podcast or had a podcast.
• 39:14
  Speaker 2: And dad does this, so it doesn't.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: Ring a bell that like, oh, it might be something bigger,
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: so we'll see.
• 39:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know, We're gonna have.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: To kind of see I might be in the works.
• 39:25
  Speaker 1: Do they know, like I assume that when you're traveling,
• 39:29
  Speaker 1: because I feel like when we're traveling that way, you
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: get asked the most to have pictures taken. Do they
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: have they started to sense like, well, that's weird. Why
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: would that person who we've never met before or want
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: a picture of my mom and dad?
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: I know. I think my my oldest has always been
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: so inquisitive and like observing, so he always would just
• 39:51
  Speaker 3: be like looking at them. But again I don't think
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: he I think because of their world of YouTube and
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: their world of podcasts, like I think they I just
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: don't think anything's.
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Weird totally, and they don't need to right now. That's
• 40:06
  Speaker 1: totally fine. I just didn't know if they were kind
• 40:08
  Speaker 1: of clued into it yet or have asked you. No,
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: they why is that person taking a picture?
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: Quite honestly, I'm really surprised that they haven't heard from
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: someone else.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: But you know, well, that's what I was wondering, because
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: I feel like they're getting old enough to have friends
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: who are like, hey, my mom was just saying this,
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: or we saw you on my computer or whatever, you
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: know whatever, Yeah, whatever it is. Yeah, I really it's coming.
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: I think it's coming.
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: I think we're gonna sit down with them soon so
• 40:43
  Speaker 3: that they know so it's not like an awkward thing.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: But yeah, wait, you're famous. People know who you are.
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: And I hate using the word famous, but yeah, but
• 40:56
  Speaker 1: people know who you are. Like that's great.
• 40:59
  Speaker 3: I know I'm at the because it's been thirteen years now,
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I'm at the place.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Of like did we go to school together? How do
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: I know you? I know you from somewhere.
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: That is always my go to.
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: I would love to take a poll on like when
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: someone says that, do they do they prefer if I
• 41:22
  Speaker 3: just tell them like, oh, well did you watch the Bachelorette?
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: Or would they prefer I.
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: Didn't say anything and then it's just as it's the
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: same awkwardness, Like I don't know, maybe I guess could
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: do a plan.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Now, because I do kind of half and half. Like
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: there are times when I'm like, I'm just going to
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: say it because it seems like they're going to be
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: annoyed if they can't figure it out, and then I'm
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: like other times I'm like, oh, really I look familiar. Well, okay, great,
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: yeah I must look like one of your friends or something.
• 41:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be like I have a very familiar face exactly.
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: I have said that so often. Yes, so true, I
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: did have someone since you were off of social media,
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: maybe wouldn't have seen this and not that like with
• 42:05
  Speaker 1: the algorithm rory them and everything. We've been following each
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: other for hours, but I still don't see everyone's stuff.
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: But I was talking about how I was playing pickupball
• 42:15
  Speaker 1: the other day and a ball came onto my court
• 42:18
  Speaker 1: with this lady came over to get her ball and
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: she was like, oh my gosh, you're the bachelorette. And
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh hi, how are you, and she goes,
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: I am so old. I watched your show and I
• 42:31
  Speaker 1: was like, wait a second.
• 42:34
  Speaker 2: You're like you're not okay.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: Literally, I was like, whoa, Okay. I mean, I know
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: you're not intending to insult me, but or call me old.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: That's not the intention. She was super sweet, but I
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: was kind of like, well, like, I don't want to
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: be called old. It's the same thing. I'm sure you've
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: gotten this before where people are like, oh, you look
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: so much better than you did on television or whatever.
• 43:06
  Speaker 3: To say that I was I was just gonna say that,
• 43:08
  Speaker 3: I was gonna say in the beginning.
• 43:10
  Speaker 2: In the beginning, right off the show, they'd be like, oh,
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: you're I.
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: Don't I don't know if they said so much prettier
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: than like or but or they said even prettier.
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: But I still was like, well.
• 43:23
  Speaker 1: That's rude because I'm the same person whether I'm on
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: I'm on television or in real life. Like, I'm the
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: same person. So you're literally criticizing me, yeah, while giving
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: me a compliment at the same time.
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: That's so funny, I don't.
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, people have great intentions, and I feel like
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: I if I was meeting someone that I not looked
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: up to is not the right word, but that I
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: watched in my living room and felt like I knew them,
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: then I would definitely feel flustered. So I don't hold
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: it against them, but I am like, yeah, it makes
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: me think more about what I say to people.
• 43:59
  Speaker 2: Right, I agree with that Ross Yeah.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So what are you going to do for
• 44:06
  Speaker 1: Noah's birthday? Any plans?
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: No plans.
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: I wanted to just keep a small family a smash cake,
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: and then the boys are like, we need balloons and
• 44:18
  Speaker 3: friends over and can we have like a bounce house?
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: And like, oh my gosh, that's like that's your birthday.
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: That's a birthday, yes, right, remember it? He's one. Yeah,
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: that's cute. Okay, last thing before I let you go,
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: please tell us about your book.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, well I wrote I wrote too.
• 44:42
  Speaker 3: So the first one was okay, tell us about both
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: on twenty two I don't even know when, and that
• 44:49
  Speaker 3: was Road to Roses And so that's more of a
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: biography of like how I got in the show my
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: feelings towards that. Actually I feel like it like walks
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: through my whole entire dating history, which is quite interesting,
• 45:01
  Speaker 3: I guess. But it's funny because that was what four
• 45:04
  Speaker 3: years ago I wrote it, and I'm like, so much
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: has already changed in like what you would you know,
• 45:09
  Speaker 3: put out there, But yeah, it's my journey to motherhood
• 45:14
  Speaker 3: and so that's much more personal about me. And then
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: what I wrote Faith Unlocked, which is to help people
• 45:22
  Speaker 3: walk through their faith journey. Yeah, whether they're just getting
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: started or seasoned believer, just to get closer to amazing.
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: Does it come with like a workbook?
• 45:32
  Speaker 2: I have a.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: Workbook that you can download on my website to go
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: with it. So it's actually like, yeah, I love it.
• 45:39
  Speaker 3: I really love like the inner healing of stuff. So
• 45:41
  Speaker 3: it's like really healing heart wounds, brokenness, you know, all
• 45:46
  Speaker 3: that stuff.
• 45:47
  Speaker 2: So that's great.
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, thank you, that's exciting. And are you designing it
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: all anymore? No?
• 45:55
  Speaker 3: I laid that down to do homeschool and so it
• 45:58
  Speaker 3: was perfect timing though I was ready by that point, and.
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, it's so crazy. Eventually, I think, you know, later.
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: In life, I still plan to design or have a
• 46:09
  Speaker 3: have a little like bridal boutique.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: I think I would love that.
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: Oh totally. I mean, girl, I with my kids almost gone,
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: it's like you question what you're gonna do after they're
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: after they're gone, And that's definitely something that I'm thinking
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: about so gosh, if you have that in your back
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: pocket and you've already done it, that'd be perfect.
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll be exciting when that time comes.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: It's amazing.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: In like twenty years, exactly.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Almost twenty years, it'll go by like that. Don't blink, Okay.
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: It is always so much fun in catching up and
• 46:47
  Speaker 1: you see your beautiful face. Give Chris a hug for me,
• 46:50
  Speaker 1: and hopefully I'll get to see you sometime soon.
• 46:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, hopefully someone will get married or something. Give us
• 46:57
  Speaker 3: a reason, right, is the reason I'll.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Get together again. That would be so great.
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on the almost famous o G
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: Podcast