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Credlin | 19 June · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Krandler live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Quody, all right, Well, he can't get on a plane
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Speaker 2: in Washington to meet the president, but the PM can
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Speaker 2: and does go almost everywhere else. His travel bill made
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Speaker 2: public today. It is astronomical. I'll reveal what you're paying
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Speaker 2: in the moment. Another start warning about our perilous energy state.
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Speaker 2: The CEO of one of our largest energy companies warns
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Speaker 2: of Victorians could be in for a long and very
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Speaker 2: cold winter, a real risk that heating could be turned off. Plus,
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Speaker 2: speaking of our energy miss you might be paying to
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Speaker 2: charge an electric car even if you don't own one.
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Speaker 2: There's a massive battle going on right now over who
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Speaker 2: should bear the cost, and expert will walk us through
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Speaker 2: how Chris Bowen wants it all to work and live
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Speaker 2: to the Middle East. As the world watches Donald Trump's
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Speaker 2: next move and what too of his base. The Mega
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Speaker 2: movement is fractory. Have a direct us involvement in Iram.
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Speaker 3: I may do it, I may not do it. I mean,
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Speaker 3: nobody knows what I'm going to do. I can tell
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Speaker 3: you there's that Aram's got a lot of trouble.
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Speaker 2: But first tonight, the Administrative Committee of the Victorian Liberal
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Speaker 2: Party will consider former leader John Perzzuto's bid to get
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Speaker 2: a multimillion dollar bailout loan from the party to repay
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Speaker 2: his court order debt to Moradeeming after he was found
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Speaker 2: by the federal court to have defamed his colleague.
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Speaker 4: What I can say is that tonight's an opportunity to
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Speaker 4: square that off and put it all behind it, and
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Speaker 4: I hope that's what we do.
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Speaker 5: Mora said that she believes the party will continue to
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Speaker 5: annihilate her.
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Speaker 6: What do you make of those comments. I think everybody
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Speaker 6: just wants to work together, and I think there is
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Speaker 6: broad support right across the membership and in the community
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Speaker 6: for us to work together.
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Speaker 7: Is it the loan?
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Speaker 2: The loan Perzudo wants is not from a bank because
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Speaker 2: he won't put up his home as security. It's from
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Speaker 2: the Liberal Party. Even though Liberal Party presidents Greg Mirabella
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Speaker 2: in the current incumbent Phil Davis, have said on multiple
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Speaker 2: occasions that not one dollar from Liberal Party funds would
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Speaker 2: be used by either Perzuto or Deeming for that matter. Indeed,
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Speaker 2: so incensed were members about this possibility, Davis only won
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Speaker 2: his electioned as president after a public commitment to rule
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Speaker 2: it out.
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Speaker 6: And yet here we are.
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Speaker 2: But he is not the only one who has said
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Speaker 2: party funds would never be used in what's essentially a
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Speaker 2: private matter between two colleagues. John Pizuto himself said in
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Speaker 2: November twenty twenty three that he would not seek any
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Speaker 2: Liberal Party funds. He said an I quota will not
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Speaker 2: be asking the party to cover any legal fees, and
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Speaker 2: that public commitment was also backed up officially when Perzuto
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Speaker 2: fronted the Administrative Committee, the very same mob who were
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Speaker 2: meeting tonight, to put it on the record that he
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Speaker 2: would not seek or accept party funds. Now, if in doubt,
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Speaker 2: check the mist The date was two years ago, Thursday,
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Speaker 2: the thirty first of August twenty twenty three. And yet
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Speaker 2: again here we are a lawyer who clearly doesn't keep
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Speaker 2: his word, appealing to a president who made a commitment
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Speaker 2: he wouldn't get a dollar or they're both in the
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Speaker 2: room tonight as the party deliberates handing over millions and
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Speaker 2: not their money, mind you, it is millions of dollars
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Speaker 2: that belongs to the volunteers who are the unsung heroes
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Speaker 2: of the Victorian Liberal Party.
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Speaker 6: Now worrying Lee.
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Speaker 2: Reports today that Persudo's successor as leader. Brad Batten supports
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Speaker 2: this loan not because he's a fan of Perzuto, but
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Speaker 2: because he doesn't want to face a by election for
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Speaker 2: Perzuto's seat, which will happen if he can't pay his
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Speaker 2: debt and Persuto is bankrupted. Now fair enough, few people
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Speaker 2: want to see Perzuto bankrupted either, But no political party
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Speaker 2: should be frightened of an election because fighting and winning
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Speaker 2: elections is precisely what political parties exist to do. But
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Speaker 2: what political parties are.
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Speaker 6: Not is a bank. Whoever heard of a political.
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Speaker 2: Party that was in the business of giving its senior
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Speaker 2: members loans, especially those who behave badly expelled colleagues and
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Speaker 2: lose big in court. And my suspicion is that Baton's
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Speaker 2: also trying to plicate Pozuto's supporters, namely the so called
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Speaker 2: moderates in the party room. But there how are they
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Speaker 2: going to become his supporters just because he caved in
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Speaker 2: on something like this.
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Speaker 6: And if he.
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Speaker 2: Does cave in, he will wear the anger of the
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Speaker 2: rank and file who are deeply unhappy with this whole business.
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Speaker 2: I mean, even now, after being out of power for
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Speaker 2: the better part of twenty five years, this is the
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Speaker 2: Victorian Liberal party that is still focused on itself, not
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Speaker 2: the voters who are desperate for change. A party room
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Speaker 2: of malcontents still are intent on scoring points against each
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Speaker 2: other instead of working together to save Victorians from a
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Speaker 2: government that wants to tack them into oblivion. Now, in
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Speaker 2: the end, this is Persudo's mess of his own making.
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Speaker 2: So spooked was he by Daniel Andrews that he acted irrationally,
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Speaker 2: expelled and defamed a colleague, and by refusing to settle
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Speaker 2: the case when he could, he went to court and
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Speaker 2: he lost. Can you imagine the party bailing out Deeming
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Speaker 2: if she had lost you I.
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Speaker 7: Will take that as a director of boots of general judgment.
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Speaker 6: Well, of course they wouldn't.
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Speaker 2: Sorry, John, you've made your bed now line it. In
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Speaker 2: another blow too for transactivism, the United States Supreme Court
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Speaker 2: has just held that an American state is within its
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Speaker 2: rights to legislate against giving puberty blocking drugs to confuse children.
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Speaker 2: Two years ago, the Tennessee legislature ban gender transition treatments
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Speaker 2: for miners. The law was then challenged by three transgender youths,
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Speaker 2: their parents, and a Memphis doctor, who argued that it
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Speaker 2: had amounted to sex discrimination. Now, the highest court in
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Speaker 2: the United States has ruled that outlawing gender treatments for
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Speaker 2: miners does not offend human rights principles, and why wooden
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Speaker 2: tools shouldn't a court have ruled that way? I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's not a violation of a young person's rights to
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Speaker 2: prevent them from buying alcohol or cigarettes, or to have
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Speaker 2: sex or drive a car, because we don't think young
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Speaker 2: people are sufficiently mature to make decisions of that nature.
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Speaker 2: So how on earth can we allow miners to decide
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Speaker 2: to take life changing drugs or have their breasts remove
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Speaker 2: or sex organs altered, especially given that so many of
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Speaker 2: these confused children have significant mental health issues. This isn't
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Speaker 2: the first judicial pushback against transactivism that swept the anglosphere
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Speaker 2: in the past decade. Two months ago, Britains Spreme Court
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Speaker 2: unanimously ruled that a biological man could not at law
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Speaker 2: be a woman, thus ending any right the biological man
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Speaker 2: might otherwise have had to invade women's sports and women's
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Speaker 2: safe spaces simply by identifying as a woman. And in
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Speaker 2: an earlier case this month, a federal court judge here
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Speaker 2: in Australia criticized our national treatment guidelines for trans and
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Speaker 2: gender diverse children for its assumption that children could readily
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Speaker 2: make potentially life altering decisions. The case of the mothers,
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Speaker 2: said Judge Andrew Strum, is that because the child says so,
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Speaker 2: the child is and must unquestionably be affirmed as being
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Speaker 2: female engender. However, he said that overlooks the obvious, namely.
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Speaker 6: That the child is still a child.
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Speaker 2: Now, notwithstanding these common sense statements and decisions from the
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Speaker 2: bench in three countries now, the health establishment here in
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Speaker 2: Australia still maintains that a woman who says she's a
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Speaker 2: man is a man, and that a man who says
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Speaker 2: he's a woman is a woman, and that a child
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Speaker 2: who claims to be trapped in the wrong body should
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Speaker 2: be given potentially life changing drugs and even irreversible surgery.
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Speaker 2: I'm all in favor of trans people being treated with
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Speaker 2: respect and not facing discrimination, but this idea that the
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Speaker 2: rights of trans people trump the rights of everyone else
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Speaker 2: or the human rights of children is just plain wrong.
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Speaker 2: All right, let's go to Camber now for the headlines.
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Speaker 2: Skyni's political reporter cam Redden.
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Speaker 8: Good evening efforts our building to evacuate Australians caught in
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Speaker 8: the conflict between Israel and Iran.
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Speaker 9: If we are able to will we will assist. But
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Speaker 9: at this stage there are very hard limits on what
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Speaker 9: the government can do.
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Speaker 8: A small bus load of Australians made it out of
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Speaker 8: Israel yesterday, but windows to escape are narrow and unpredictable.
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Speaker 8: Around twelve hundred Ozzies in Israel and fifteen hundred in
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Speaker 8: Iran have registered for assistance.
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Speaker 9: The Department is working on trying to assist more people
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Speaker 9: over the next twenty four hours.
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Speaker 7: Is it going to finish?
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Speaker 1: It felt like it came to a colmway, but it's
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Speaker 1: still really intense, and this morning it's actually the worst
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Speaker 1: that's happened since it started.
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Speaker 8: The government has hit the reset button on attempts to
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Speaker 8: reform Australia's environmental laws.
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Speaker 10: So we've all got an interest in solving this challenge together.
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Speaker 8: New Minister Murray what convening a stakeholder round table in
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Speaker 8: Canberra in attempt to break the impass.
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Speaker 1: Clearly, not everything has been solved.
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Speaker 11: Clearly, there are still areas of disagreement that we'll need
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Speaker 11: to work through.
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Speaker 8: The most controversial piece of the puzzle remains a proposed
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Speaker 8: watchdog to enforce the laws, to be known as the
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Speaker 8: Environmental Protection Agency. Labor has so far rejected calls to
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Speaker 8: insert a climate trigger into the bill, which could allow
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Speaker 8: the body to effectively veto a project its carbon footprint
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Speaker 8: was too large.
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Speaker 4: I've got an open mind at this early stage about
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Speaker 4: exactly what the scope and exactly what the powers of
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Speaker 4: an EPA would be.
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Speaker 10: You can't have environment laws without considering the climate pollution.
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Speaker 8: For a fifth consecutive month, Australia's unemployment rate remains steady
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Speaker 8: at four point one percent.
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Speaker 12: Our government is firmly focused on making sure that we're
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Speaker 12: creating jobs, that we keep unemployment low and at the
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Speaker 12: same time bringing inflation down.
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Speaker 8: Cameron Reddin's Sky News Canberra, all.
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Speaker 2: Right, plenty to get across tonight, joining me out and
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Speaker 2: there's not a quota in sight. These wonderful women, Media
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Speaker 2: commentator Caroly Katz and Varnas and broadcaster Dennie Dunlevy, welcome
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Speaker 2: to you.
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Speaker 6: Both.
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Speaker 2: Fear is that Jim Chalmers is laying a bit of groundwork,
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Speaker 2: not for tax reform, that's the euphemism, but for tax increases,
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Speaker 2: and I think it's pretty much soak the rich Caroly,
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Speaker 2: what do you make of this?
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Speaker 10: Sure is Peter, Well, just a few weeks ago, you know,
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Speaker 10: before we went to the election, he said how fantastic
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Speaker 10: the budget was and there was no need for any
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Speaker 10: of this. And now as we see, the budget is.
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Speaker 6: Not as it should be.
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Speaker 10: But we've also got to remember all the promises that
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Speaker 10: Labor made during the election. Now there's a price to pay.
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Speaker 10: I'm not singling out students, but all this wiping of
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Speaker 10: hexstet well, now we're paying the price for it as well.
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Speaker 10: It's going to cripple Australia. And I think you know,
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Speaker 10: Jim Chalmers, he's selling a lot of lies to Australians.
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Speaker 10: I'm now wondering whether we're actually going to get that
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Speaker 10: cup of coffee that he promised before the election with
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Speaker 10: his tax cuts.
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Speaker 2: And if you're in the state of Victoria, I mean
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Speaker 2: there are some states that are already drowting in taxes,
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Speaker 2: let alone a layer of additional federal tax Absolutely.
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Speaker 13: Yeah, I'm sorry, reader, I'm not to Peter. I'm sorry
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Speaker 13: a little across that story.
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Speaker 6: It's tough though, isn't it. You know, taxes going up everywhere?
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Speaker 2: Yes, indeed, yeah, talk to me about the Victorian crime stats,
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Speaker 2: because I know you've got your head deep in this podcast. Indeed,
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Speaker 2: get to that in a moment we saw that vision,
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Speaker 2: we might have something to go to the screen there
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Speaker 2: now Northland Shopping Mall terrorized by youths, not once, but twice.
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Speaker 2: There was some machety attacks. Stolen Land cruiser was driven
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Speaker 2: through there yesterday.
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Speaker 6: We can see that on the screen.
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Speaker 2: Victoria Police has released their stats out there today to
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Speaker 2: say they've had the highest number of arrests in their
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Speaker 2: one hundred and seventy two year history, some seventy six
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Speaker 2: thousand people over the past year, more than two hundred
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Speaker 2: arrests per day. You might feel safe here in those stats,
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Speaker 2: but not in Victoria, because an arrest doesn't mean a
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Speaker 2: conviction and it certainly doesn't mean they're even put on remark.
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Speaker 6: Well, today the.
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Speaker 13: Person who was arrested over that awful attack at Northland
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Speaker 13: where a car was driven through the shopping center faced
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Speaker 13: court and we find out that this person apparently was
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Speaker 13: disqualified at the time.
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Speaker 6: So it again comes back to.
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Speaker 13: This question that we don't have deterrence in place, and
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Speaker 13: I don't think that particular incident can be blamed on
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Speaker 13: either the police or the shopping center. I don't think
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Speaker 13: there's anything that they necessarily could have done more. The
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Speaker 13: police were on scene very quickly. It comes back to
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Speaker 13: the fact that we need more police. We have a
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Speaker 13: shortage of them still at least a thousand positions open
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Speaker 13: at the moment, and the police probably need more resources
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Speaker 13: so that there are more deterrents, more police. How long
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Speaker 13: since you've ever seen a police person on the beat.
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Speaker 13: You don't see that anymore. And if we had more
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Speaker 13: of a police presence on our streets and these things
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Speaker 13: wouldn't be happening.
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Speaker 2: And we also want some backbone in our courts too,
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Speaker 2: because that's the issue that police say they get them
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Speaker 2: into the courtroom but there's not a conviction, or they are,
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Speaker 2: as I say, put out on bail and they repeat,
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Speaker 2: repeat their offenses.
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Speaker 10: And it's a core group. We saw with their Shaddy
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Speaker 10: attack at Northlands just a couple of weeks ago that
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Speaker 10: the six people responsible were already out on bail and
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Speaker 10: it's just this directive that was given by the Allen
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Speaker 10: Labor government to direct magistrates to actually give bail to
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Speaker 10: these offenders. I mean, six people have been killed in
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Speaker 10: Victoria in the last year due to these repeated offenders,
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Speaker 10: the recidivous group that just keep doing this and it's
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Speaker 10: not good. The public is fed up, you know. For
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Speaker 10: the Premier is center Alan to always say there's no
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Speaker 10: youth crime crisis and now we've got the post and
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Speaker 10: post laws and all we're tightening it. They no, they're not.
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Speaker 10: They've weakened it. You know, they were warned by the police.
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Speaker 10: We've gone through three police commissioners right already. We've got
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Speaker 10: a gentleman coming, mister Bush coming from New Zealand.
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Speaker 6: But that's not going to actually fix it.
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Speaker 10: The Allen government were actually told not only by the
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Speaker 10: state opposition, but by the police themselves not to go
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Speaker 10: down this route with the bail laws, and they did
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Speaker 10: and it's just a complete mess. Roll on November twenty
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Speaker 10: twenty six.
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Speaker 2: Right, let's stay with the crime theme and adding a
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Speaker 2: bit of thuggery and go to the CFMU because they
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Speaker 2: lost their big case at the High Court yesterday. This
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Speaker 2: now the government says, gives them license to clean out
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Speaker 2: the union.
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Speaker 6: But I'll tell you what they can try all they like.
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Speaker 2: Labor still takes their money and unless they put back
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Speaker 2: the watchdog, the ABCC.
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Speaker 6: They're kidding themselves, aren't they Yet?
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Speaker 10: They are And I saw that Denita Warned from the
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Speaker 10: Master Builders Association actually encapsulates what is needed and an
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Speaker 10: independent industry regulator, you know, just to remind the viewers
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Speaker 10: because we always got rapid speed, you know, in this
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Speaker 10: world now, but in twenty twenty two, dismantling the Australian
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Speaker 10: Building and Construction Commission was one of the very first
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Speaker 10: things that labor did. This is the price that is
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Speaker 10: to be paid.
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Speaker 5: You know.
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Speaker 10: Mark IRVINGKC, the you know, the administrator in charge. Now
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Speaker 10: he's got a hell of a job in front of him.
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Speaker 10: We see that he's going to go after a specific
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Speaker 10: core group of Queensland CFMAU officials. But what I want
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Speaker 10: to say is that we keep we keep hearing about
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Speaker 10: all these people that are involved in this. It's a
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Speaker 10: lot of talk, but where's the action. They keep saying
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Speaker 10: that they keep uncovering these alleged under underworld bikey links.
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Speaker 10: Where are the arrests actually being made. There haven't been
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Speaker 10: any arrests that are made. It's an absolute web and
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Speaker 10: it needs to be It needs to be cleaned up.
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Speaker 2: And I think people particularly in Sydney and Melbourne and
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Speaker 2: watching these gangland waters way out in suburban streets in
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Speaker 2: the middle of the day. We saw the attack in
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Speaker 2: a kebab shop just the other day in Sydney and
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Speaker 2: a gentleman involved there doesn't look like he'll walk. In
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Speaker 2: the case of some of these Victorian stabbings, there's a
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Speaker 2: bloke now we don't think he will survive. I mean,
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Speaker 2: this is where we've escalated to, in broad daylight, where
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Speaker 2: innocent Bisanders are caught up in some of this crime. Interestingly,
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Speaker 2: today two things collided for me. One the international rankings
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Speaker 2: for our universities and we have slipped too busy on protesting,
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Speaker 2: not enough on tutorials. Would be my guest there, but
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Speaker 2: I think that's a real shame because we pride ourselves
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Speaker 2: as an export education country.
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Speaker 6: Is a clever country. Well clearly we're not.
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Speaker 2: Then the call from a national education body that we've
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Speaker 2: got to start teaching kindness in school now, I think
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Speaker 2: kind of starts in the home. I think kinder starts
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Speaker 2: everywhere but the schoolroom. But I feel for teachers. We
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Speaker 2: keep loading all this stuff that we as a community
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Speaker 2: and families should be doing into the curriculum but if
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Speaker 2: you think you'll make a kid kind by, you know,
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Speaker 2: one lesson on Thursday afternoon once a week, you're kidding yourself.
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Speaker 6: Well, I don't know if I agree with you one
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Speaker 6: hundred percent.
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Speaker 13: I do agree with you that in the home is
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Speaker 13: where these values are taught, from where it should start.
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Speaker 13: But I don't see that it has to be one
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Speaker 13: or the other. I think that can be enhanced by
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Speaker 13: what they're being taught at school. And there is I
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Speaker 13: think some benefit to teaching kids something when they're surrounded
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Speaker 13: by other kids, because they tend to move in packs
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Speaker 13: and do what each other.
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Speaker 6: But it is better than everything you do at school.
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Speaker 6: Why does it happen?
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Speaker 2: You know their call is for a specific client kindness class.
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Speaker 2: I mean, don't you want the teacher to pull them
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Speaker 2: up in the classroom, pull them up in the playground
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Speaker 2: like kindness is embedded in everything.
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Speaker 13: Not as a class as such as what you're saying,
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Speaker 13: I don't know.
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Speaker 6: I don't know that it has to be that.
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Speaker 13: I think, yes, those values should be they should be
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Speaker 13: being taught those things, you know, outside of actual class time.
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Speaker 13: But I also believe that what they are taught in school,
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Speaker 13: whether it be the basics, the reading, writing, arithmetic, or
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Speaker 13: whether it are these values of kindness and getting along
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Speaker 13: with other people and being a decent person. Those are
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Speaker 13: characteristics which will make them as employable, as some of
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Speaker 13: the book learn and as Jethrow would say on Beverly Hillbillies.
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Speaker 13: So I actually think it sounds crazy. It sounds like
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Speaker 13: a waste of time, But I don't think it is.
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Speaker 13: I think it's going to turn out people who are
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Speaker 13: better people. And this again comes back to the university rankings.
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Speaker 13: One of the things that the rankings were done on
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Speaker 13: was how employable these university graduates are. And I do
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Speaker 13: wonder whether you know therese are hot beds of activism,
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Speaker 13: whether these young people are coming out of universities as good,
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Speaker 13: decent people, or whether they're angry, shouty people that are
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Speaker 13: not employable. And that's then dropped Australia down those rankings.
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Speaker 10: You reckon, well, I reckon with the kindness. It doesn't
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Speaker 10: matter what you do if it's not backed up at
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Speaker 10: home with family values and good community values, it is
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Speaker 10: actually a waste of time. What on earth has gone
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Speaker 10: on in a kid's life between zero and seven years
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Speaker 10: old for them to be our to get to school
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Speaker 10: to actually need this. And I've already seen the buzz
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Speaker 10: term is they're going to teach kids to be upstanders
19:06
Speaker 10: if you're a nice kid. I mean, I like to
19:08
Speaker 10: think we're all upstanders. But I also agree with you.
19:11
Speaker 10: I think the curriculum is just too overfull, and I
19:14
Speaker 10: want my kids to learn reading, writing, arithmetic, the basics.
19:19
Speaker 10: That's what's simple.
19:20
Speaker 2: I have no problem with it across the board, right, Yeah,
19:23
Speaker 2: when you walk into the classroom, how you behave in
19:25
Speaker 2: the playground, Fine, that's embedded, just like speaking nicely to people,
19:29
Speaker 2: and you know, sticking up for yourself and having an opinion.
19:31
Speaker 6: I think all of these things.
19:32
Speaker 2: You want kids to be articulate and confident, but it's
19:35
Speaker 2: not a standalone subject. For God's sake, we have not
19:37
Speaker 2: failure across the board at the basics.
19:39
Speaker 10: However, maybe some parents could have a kind.
19:42
Speaker 2: Well maybe the class teachers, Yes.
19:45
Speaker 6: The classes for the parents.
19:47
Speaker 13: Some parents are at the end of their tether and
19:50
Speaker 13: they're busy, and they're run off their feet trying to
19:52
Speaker 13: make ends. Me should some of them working several jobs,
19:55
Speaker 13: you know, with the cost of living the way it is,
19:57
Speaker 13: and you know, how do they have time to do
20:00
Speaker 13: all these in Yeah.
20:01
Speaker 6: I got to make time. You gotta make time.
20:04
Speaker 2: One point nine million dollars is Kevin Rudd's travel bill.
20:09
Speaker 2: Can you believe that? I mean, this is have to
20:12
Speaker 2: be a record for a prime minister. And this is
20:14
Speaker 2: just the tip of the iceberg. There's a lot of
20:15
Speaker 2: other costs that are not in that public published figure.
20:20
Speaker 6: DD what do you make of this? Well do you
20:22
Speaker 6: me and Kevin Rudd? Or And it's easy he liked
20:25
Speaker 6: to travel too. I'm getting having my little brand snap
20:28
Speaker 6: before just jumped across to you. This has got be baffled.
20:33
Speaker 13: If the Prime minister, look, he obviously sees the value
20:37
Speaker 13: of a face to face meeting. Someone could teach him
20:39
Speaker 13: how to use zoom if they wanted to cut that
20:41
Speaker 13: bill a little bit. If he loves a face to
20:43
Speaker 13: face meeting so much, how has he not found his
20:46
Speaker 13: way to Washington. Donald Trump, who he probably should be
20:50
Speaker 13: talking to at this point, has a very open doors policy.
20:53
Speaker 13: Every other person in the world, from children right through
20:57
Speaker 13: to you know, Mark Zuckerberg. Everyone's been into the office
21:00
Speaker 13: and had a chat. Why has Anthony Abernesi not been there?
21:04
Speaker 13: He clearly doesn't have a problem with flying. Is there
21:07
Speaker 13: an answer to question?
21:08
Speaker 6: No, what do you think?
21:10
Speaker 10: I think when you've got an ambassador Kevin Rudd for
21:13
Speaker 10: Australia that wrote what he wrote about Trump on the
21:15
Speaker 10: social media, I think you're right down the pecking order.
21:17
Speaker 6: But the thing is Trump is very forgiving.
21:19
Speaker 13: We've seen him have big blow ups with people in
21:21
Speaker 13: the past and he can still you sit with that
21:25
Speaker 13: person and sort their differences out. So the fact that
21:28
Speaker 13: Anthony Alberzi has said less than flattering things, the fact
21:31
Speaker 13: that Kevin Rudd has said lefts and flattering things about
21:33
Speaker 13: Donald Trump, doesn't mean he's going to lock them out
21:35
Speaker 13: of a meeting. So there's something else stopping out from
21:39
Speaker 13: getting there. Hey, just quickly your podcast, You've got another
21:41
Speaker 13: episode just dropped. Monday was the final episode in this series.
21:45
Speaker 13: But Peter and thank you very much for helping to
21:47
Speaker 13: push the story along. There's a bit happening behind the
21:50
Speaker 13: scenes which I'm not able to talk about as yet.
21:53
Speaker 13: I wish that the Police Minister, Anthony Carbines would listen
21:57
Speaker 13: to my request and grant me a request for an interview.
22:00
Speaker 13: Emails have gone unanswered, and Darryl Floyd, the guy at
22:03
Speaker 13: the center of this story who's digging in a gold
22:05
Speaker 13: mine for his brother's remains, has not had any news
22:08
Speaker 13: from the police minister now that he can have the
22:10
Speaker 13: funding to do that.
22:12
Speaker 6: So I wish he will.
22:13
Speaker 2: Stay watch it, will stay across it, and we will
22:15
Speaker 2: watch what happens with carbines.
22:16
Speaker 6: Thank you both. There you go.
22:18
Speaker 2: You can go to the Boy in the gold Mine
22:20
Speaker 2: podcast I love it, you will love it too, or
22:23
Speaker 2: right after the Brave Victoria. It's cold anyway, but it
22:25
Speaker 2: could be a long cold winter if the heading goes off.
22:28
Speaker 2: That's a real risk, says Powered Chiefs.
22:30
Speaker 6: Class.
22:31
Speaker 2: Will touch base with our energy expert Net zero opponent
22:34
Speaker 2: Robert Brice is in Barnstorms, Australia on his speaking tour.
22:42
Speaker 2: Welcome back still to come. Hey, are you going to
22:44
Speaker 2: pay for an EV via a charge even if you
22:47
Speaker 2: don't have an electric vehicle? Certainly that's Chris Bowen's plan.
22:51
Speaker 2: Now to a morning Today from the boss of Australia's
22:53
Speaker 2: largest electricity transmission company, Transgrid, CEO, Brett Redman has issued
22:59
Speaker 2: a bit of a cold shot warning save Victoria's greed
23:02
Speaker 2: to so stretch that there's a real risk of power failure.
23:05
Speaker 2: Joining me is someone who's been sounding the alarm on
23:07
Speaker 2: energy policy for decades and is in Australia as part
23:10
Speaker 2: of a sellout speaking tour. Robert Bryce is an author,
23:14
Speaker 2: filmmaker and energy expert who spent three decades writing about power,
23:18
Speaker 2: politics and innovation. Robert, great to have you back on
23:22
Speaker 2: the program. Welcome to a winter in Australia. I've got
23:27
Speaker 2: to get your comments on the domestic politics of those
23:30
Speaker 2: remarks today from the boss of transcried. It doesn't get
23:35
Speaker 2: any more grim than that, I think, in the middle
23:37
Speaker 2: of winter, to be told that the lights could go
23:39
Speaker 2: out and the heat to go off as well.
23:44
Speaker 11: It is remarkable and the timing is amazing that here
23:47
Speaker 11: you have the head of the biggest transmission operator in
23:51
Speaker 11: Australia sounding the alarm and Peter, I've been in Australia
23:55
Speaker 11: now for almost two weeks and I've been following the
23:58
Speaker 11: headline's been following the news, and I guess I just
24:01
Speaker 11: wonder how many warnings do you need before your policy
24:05
Speaker 11: makers wake up and smell the coffee. I mean, it's
24:08
Speaker 11: just remarkable. I thought what Redmond said was he said,
24:12
Speaker 11: I'm quoting here. The risk to transition is that people
24:14
Speaker 11: lose confidence in the system. You think their power prices
24:19
Speaker 11: are going up dramatically. And remember it was just last
24:21
Speaker 11: week in Victoria that the state ran through thirteen percent
24:26
Speaker 11: of their gas in just three days because the alt
24:30
Speaker 11: energy didn't produce the amount of energy or electricity that
24:32
Speaker 11: they expected and the thermal plants were down. So again,
24:36
Speaker 11: how many warnings do you need?
24:39
Speaker 6: What do you make of us as a country?
24:41
Speaker 2: Given all the uranium we have given, all the guests
24:45
Speaker 2: we have given, all the call we have that we
24:48
Speaker 2: are in this predicament.
24:53
Speaker 3: You know, Peter, That's what I've been saying.
24:54
Speaker 11: And you know I spoke in Perth, and in Brisbane
24:56
Speaker 11: and Melbourne, I was here, spoke in Sydney here last night,
25:00
Speaker 11: and that's been what I know, the message I've been delivering,
25:02
Speaker 11: which is, I mean, truly, what is.
25:04
Speaker 3: Wrong with you Australians.
25:05
Speaker 11: You have natural resources that are the envy of the
25:09
Speaker 11: rest of the world. You're the Saudi Arabia of the
25:11
Speaker 11: Southern hemisphere. You export seven times more coal than you consume,
25:16
Speaker 11: and yet you don't want to burn coal. You have
25:18
Speaker 11: nearly thirty percent of the world's uranium, and you won't
25:21
Speaker 11: build nuclear reactors. You export three times more natural gas
25:25
Speaker 11: in the form of energy than you consume, and you
25:27
Speaker 11: won't drill for gas.
25:28
Speaker 3: I mean, I just don't get it. I love Australia.
25:32
Speaker 11: I think it's an amazing country, but your policy is
25:35
Speaker 11: just baffling.
25:38
Speaker 2: So when you put it to the audience like that,
25:40
Speaker 2: and I make the point too, there are Australians that
25:44
Speaker 2: absolutely are struggling to pay their bills, that are making
25:47
Speaker 2: choices about going to bed early because I can't afford
25:49
Speaker 2: to put the heater on. In a first world country
25:52
Speaker 2: like this, what sort of feedback you're getting from your
25:54
Speaker 2: audience when you put these facts on the table.
25:59
Speaker 11: Well, now, look, I'm here as a guest at the
26:02
Speaker 11: Institute of Public Affairs, and of course their audiences are
26:05
Speaker 11: going to be inclined towards my messaging.
26:06
Speaker 3: But you know that audience is just part of it.
26:10
Speaker 11: What I've seen in the newspapers and tracking what your
26:12
Speaker 11: own news media is doing a pretty good job of
26:15
Speaker 11: reporting on what's happening here. But the disconnect is between
26:20
Speaker 11: what the news media is reporting and there. Like I said,
26:22
Speaker 11: I think they're doing a good job, and that Albinisi
26:24
Speaker 11: government's insistence on these ideas about net zero again how
26:28
Speaker 11: many warnings do you need? There was a really remarkable
26:31
Speaker 11: story that the ABC published was on Tuesday about the
26:34
Speaker 11: problems in Western Australia, pointing out that there's a I
26:37
Speaker 11: think there's a three hundred and ten megawatt gas plant
26:40
Speaker 11: called nu Gen that may shut down because they can't
26:42
Speaker 11: make money because of all the subsidized solar in Western Australia.
26:47
Speaker 11: And this again is in Western Australia where they're planning
26:50
Speaker 11: to shutter all their cold plants by twenty twenty nine,
26:53
Speaker 11: and short term electricity prices have gone up seventy four
26:56
Speaker 11: percent just in the last three years. I mean, it
26:59
Speaker 11: really is Again. I want the best for Australia. I've
27:03
Speaker 11: got no dog in this fight, but it just is
27:05
Speaker 11: incredible to see how bad the policy here is here
27:09
Speaker 11: in such a resource rich country.
27:13
Speaker 2: It's certainly made headlines here that Labour's Tony Blair, former
27:17
Speaker 2: Prime Minister Orobocy of the UK has come out and said,
27:19
Speaker 2: you know, I've got to call that net and zero.
27:21
Speaker 2: It's not going to happen when you walk away from
27:23
Speaker 2: net and zero. We see countries around the world doing it.
27:27
Speaker 2: We're certainly getting elements of the Conservative Party here at
27:30
Speaker 2: branch level moving motions. Some of the states are moving
27:33
Speaker 2: motions saying we're going to dump net zero. You know,
27:37
Speaker 2: if you still want to have net zero on the table,
27:40
Speaker 2: you really have to have a conversation about nuclear. We're
27:43
Speaker 2: having looking overseas and people are having that conversation and
27:46
Speaker 2: moving towards nuclear and all the other big First world economies.
27:51
Speaker 2: We're not having that conversation here in Australia. What do
27:54
Speaker 2: you make of that?
27:58
Speaker 11: Again, this is one of the they're baffling parts of
28:01
Speaker 11: what is happening here. And I'm adamantly pro nuclear. Have
28:05
Speaker 11: been saying the same thing for more than fifteen years.
28:07
Speaker 11: Even if you're not serious about climate change and that's
28:09
Speaker 11: not a concern for you, natural gas to nuclear is
28:11
Speaker 11: the way forward. Australia is a long way away, even
28:15
Speaker 11: if you repealed your ban on nuclear from deploying new reactors.
28:18
Speaker 3: But you're right.
28:20
Speaker 11: In the US, there's a lot of momentum toward new
28:22
Speaker 11: nuclear power. Poland just did a deal and signed an
28:26
Speaker 11: agreement with Westinghouse to build three ap one thousands. Those
28:30
Speaker 11: are gigawatt scale reactors. France is moving forward with nuclear.
28:34
Speaker 11: The German government, the new German government as indicating they
28:37
Speaker 11: may restart their nuclear reactors. So I see there's more
28:42
Speaker 11: energy realism in the rest of the world, and unfortunately
28:46
Speaker 11: it hasn't for some reason, it hasn't come all the
28:48
Speaker 11: way down Under yet.
28:52
Speaker 2: I hope you have at least shaken some of us up, Robert,
28:55
Speaker 2: because I think it's incredibly important about having this country
28:58
Speaker 2: I've gone the next few months. Thank you for joining
29:01
Speaker 2: us again. I know a lot of you at home
29:03
Speaker 2: have loved seeing Robert on the program. If you go
29:05
Speaker 2: to Robert Bryce dot substack dot com, that's the place
29:10
Speaker 2: you go to get all of your updates. Just go
29:12
Speaker 2: to sub stack and look for Robert Bryce. Let's gone
29:16
Speaker 2: out to Israel. Australians there are trying to flee, I
29:19
Speaker 2: mean the rising conflict in the Middle East, but they
29:21
Speaker 2: have slammed the government's evacuation efforts. The Department of Foreign
29:25
Speaker 2: Affairs and Trade have been described as absolutely shambolic. On
29:30
Speaker 2: Wednesday morning local time, Australians were given only fifty five
29:33
Speaker 2: minutes notice that there would be a bus leaving Tel Aviv. Now,
29:37
Speaker 2: according to lat's figures, it's about twelve hundred Australians in Israel.
29:41
Speaker 2: That want to come home, and about fifteen hundred in
29:44
Speaker 2: Iran registered with DEFAT. Jot toy Now, someone who is
29:48
Speaker 2: on the ground, you's got your correspondent, Sophie Elsworth coming
29:52
Speaker 2: to us tonight from Tel Aviv. I'll tell you what
29:54
Speaker 2: so if you get around those evacuation efforts sound like
29:58
Speaker 2: one heck of a metz.
30:02
Speaker 7: Well, Peter, Yes, they have been a heck of a mess.
30:04
Speaker 14: The handling of this by DEFAT has been completely shambolic.
30:08
Speaker 7: Yesterday were given just fifty.
30:10
Speaker 14: Five minutes notice that they were to get on a
30:13
Speaker 14: bus here at the Intercontinental.
30:16
Speaker 7: In Tel Aviv to be able to leave Israel.
30:19
Speaker 14: Now fifty five minutes to pack their bags, say goodbye
30:22
Speaker 14: to their family and friends and get down to Century
30:25
Speaker 14: Tel Aviv. But it's very hard to get around here
30:28
Speaker 14: at times, not forgetting that there's alarms going off. It's
30:32
Speaker 14: a very tense situation, and there's been people here really
30:36
Speaker 14: disappointed with the handling of it. But I'm at the
30:38
Speaker 14: hotel now, Peter, and there's about fifty people about to
30:42
Speaker 14: be loaded onto a bus and taken to the border
30:46
Speaker 14: of Jordan to go on to flights from Amman in
30:50
Speaker 14: Jordan to get out of here.
30:52
Speaker 7: And I've just spoken to some people on the ground
30:54
Speaker 7: who just.
30:55
Speaker 14: Relieved Peter that there's an exit strategy because it's very
30:59
Speaker 14: tense here at the moment. Why it looks beautiful here,
31:02
Speaker 14: It's a beautiful, glorious thirty degree day. There's no doubt
31:07
Speaker 14: people are very anxious.
31:10
Speaker 2: Hey, I'm interested to know how difficult it was for
31:12
Speaker 2: you to get into Israel from Europe.
31:16
Speaker 14: So, Peter, I flew from London via Doha and then
31:20
Speaker 14: into a Man.
31:21
Speaker 7: I had to be driven to the border of Israel
31:24
Speaker 7: and Jordan.
31:25
Speaker 14: Obviously there were very strict checkpoints there, not a lot
31:28
Speaker 14: of people obviously heading into Israel.
31:30
Speaker 7: I was then loaded onto a bus with dozens of others.
31:34
Speaker 14: And we had to wait about an hour at the
31:36
Speaker 14: border to cross on this bus from the Georginian side
31:40
Speaker 14: to the Israeli side and then go through checkpoints there again.
31:44
Speaker 14: So it did take a long time to get here,
31:48
Speaker 14: you know, to be reporting here from what's going on
31:51
Speaker 14: on the ground, but you know, it is a stressful
31:54
Speaker 14: situation for people. And there's many Australians now talking to
31:58
Speaker 14: people at the hotel saying act just saying, we can't
32:01
Speaker 14: even get out of here.
32:02
Speaker 7: We don't know when we're going to get out of here.
32:04
Speaker 7: We just want to go home.
32:08
Speaker 2: Yeah, just quickly. I'm keen to get a sense of
32:10
Speaker 2: the mood. I know people I've spoken to over the
32:12
Speaker 2: weekend we're literally in and out of bomb shelters.
32:16
Speaker 6: For most of the night.
32:17
Speaker 2: It's a sad reality in Israel that almost every dwelling,
32:20
Speaker 2: every home, every restaurant at every hotel has got a
32:24
Speaker 2: bomb shelter. How thing has been there since you arrived.
32:29
Speaker 14: Well, we've been running into bomb shelters, Peter. You know,
32:32
Speaker 14: we've been running into underground card parks.
32:34
Speaker 7: I've had it.
32:35
Speaker 14: Happen several times since I arrived to you just twenty
32:37
Speaker 14: four hours ago.
32:39
Speaker 7: Our phones are going off constantly with alerts. We're all
32:42
Speaker 7: monitoring alerts from the various services to keep up to date.
32:47
Speaker 14: And Peter, now just behind me, the bus has arrived,
32:50
Speaker 14: so the Australians are now loading up to make their
32:53
Speaker 14: way out of here. So there's no doubt it's a
32:56
Speaker 14: very stressful situation for many people.
33:00
Speaker 6: Well, I appreciate you joining us. Please stay safe, Sophie.
33:03
Speaker 6: We love you dearly. We'll catch up soon, all right.
33:06
Speaker 2: How home owners could cop the cost of charge electric vehicles,
33:09
Speaker 2: whether they own an EV or not. That's coming out,
33:12
Speaker 2: Plus Chris Bowen's ideological fuel efficiency standards will drive up
33:17
Speaker 2: costs for consumers.
33:18
Speaker 6: I'll explain why.
33:24
Speaker 2: Welcome back Paul Kennybuke's federal labor over any suggestion that
33:29
Speaker 2: China is Australia's strategic threat. We'll get to that in
33:33
Speaker 2: a moment, and that car crash interview with Ted Cruz
33:36
Speaker 2: and Taker Carlson. But first to the showdown between electricity
33:40
Speaker 2: contractors and networks over the cost associated with curbside electric
33:45
Speaker 2: vehicle chargers. Now they're expected to boost profits to the
33:48
Speaker 2: tune of around ten billion dollars, which will be a
33:52
Speaker 2: cost of consumers, whether you own an EV or not.
33:56
Speaker 2: Here to discuss as a more senior mattering journalists, Paul Gover.
34:00
Speaker 2: I know this is a bit complicated, but you're the expert,
34:03
Speaker 2: and I want everyone to understand what is going on
34:06
Speaker 2: because these costs are enormous.
34:09
Speaker 6: What's happening here.
34:10
Speaker 4: Paul, Well, there's a proposal to allow networks to build
34:16
Speaker 4: the infrastructure for car charging, which sounds like a great idea,
34:19
Speaker 4: except that everybody who's tried to do this as a
34:22
Speaker 4: private company has pretty much not made a profit. So
34:26
Speaker 4: you've got to be asking yourself, why does somebody want
34:28
Speaker 4: to spend all this money on infrastructure that we don't
34:32
Speaker 4: need and that is focused in a very narrow area.
34:36
Speaker 4: It's obviously a profit grab by somebody, and at the
34:40
Speaker 4: end of the day, the people are going to have
34:41
Speaker 4: to pay for this are not the people who drive
34:44
Speaker 4: electric cars. It's the people who don't drive electric cars
34:47
Speaker 4: who are going to be paying for infrastructure they don't want.
34:51
Speaker 4: And a lot of people would say they don't need.
34:55
Speaker 2: And of course if they charge their car, if they
34:58
Speaker 2: have an ev at himeh home on their own power
35:01
Speaker 2: network attached to their household, or they'll be paying at home,
35:05
Speaker 2: but they'll also be paying an overall grid sense for
35:09
Speaker 2: power on the street that they may never use.
35:13
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's correct.
35:14
Speaker 4: Well, they're talking about twenty two thousand of these charge
35:18
Speaker 4: points now, apart from the fact that there's a huge
35:21
Speaker 4: cost to roll them out, plus the fact that they'll
35:23
Speaker 4: have to upgrade power stations and substations to provide the power.
35:28
Speaker 4: If you look at the sales rate of electric cars
35:30
Speaker 4: in Australia at the moment, it's less than ten percent
35:33
Speaker 4: of the annual sales, so that's about twelve about one
35:37
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty thousand cars there is, and that's nationally.
35:40
Speaker 4: This is one state we're talking about. I have no
35:43
Speaker 4: idea why somebody want to do this unless the bean
35:47
Speaker 4: counters in the background have found a way to make
35:50
Speaker 4: a nice, tidy profit out of charging everybody for the
35:53
Speaker 4: same sort of thing as the wires and poles part
35:57
Speaker 4: of your electricity bill.
36:01
Speaker 2: And there's also something else in relation to EV's and
36:03
Speaker 2: I think we've got to talk to often enough so
36:05
Speaker 2: people understand it. I was not long ago on the
36:07
Speaker 2: Western Highway, which is the Bellarette Road Melbourne to Adelaide,
36:12
Speaker 2: and I tell you what, you could not take your
36:14
Speaker 2: eyes off the road the entire time I was dodging potholes.
36:19
Speaker 2: I mean it was quite a stressful drive. And all
36:21
Speaker 2: the way down the highway there are a couple of
36:24
Speaker 2: cars pulled over at various points and had completely blown
36:26
Speaker 2: out to their rims. And I saw going there and
36:30
Speaker 2: coming back, you know, trucks ready to take cars away
36:34
Speaker 2: that they couldn't even be repaired on the road side.
36:36
Speaker 2: So our roads are crooked right across the country. But
36:39
Speaker 2: if you've got an EV, you're not paying anything to
36:43
Speaker 2: help fix the MARU. But if you drive a petrol
36:45
Speaker 2: car or diesel car, you're being stung to repair our roads.
36:50
Speaker 6: That's you're absolutely right.
36:52
Speaker 4: The other thing, Peter, is these evs are actually doing
36:55
Speaker 4: more damage.
36:56
Speaker 6: An EV can.
36:57
Speaker 4: Bear with a combustion car is three to four hundred
37:01
Speaker 4: kilos heavier, so they weigh as much as the small
37:04
Speaker 4: truck some of these things, and there are quite a
37:06
Speaker 4: lot of them, and they're up in the two point
37:08
Speaker 4: four two point five ton range. So not only are
37:11
Speaker 4: they not paying, they're also by definition, because of their weight,
37:15
Speaker 4: they're doing more damage to the roads.
37:20
Speaker 2: Now, there were some stats out the other day that
37:21
Speaker 2: said Australia's car dealerships, about four thousand of them, are
37:26
Speaker 2: going to be two billion dollars worse off over the
37:28
Speaker 2: next five years because of these fuel efficiency standards from
37:32
Speaker 2: Chris Bowen. And we all know who'll end up paying
37:35
Speaker 2: for that. It'll be passed on to us when we
37:36
Speaker 2: buy a new car. Is there any chance the government's
37:40
Speaker 2: going to wake up and rescind these rules or change
37:44
Speaker 2: them in a way that takes cost of living in
37:47
Speaker 2: to the equation, Because I understand they're supposed to kick
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Speaker 2: in on the first of July.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, the measurement starts on the first of July. The
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Speaker 4: penicleies are further down the track. But the whole problem
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Speaker 4: with this is what they're trying to do is socially
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Speaker 4: engineer us into cars that they think are better for
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Speaker 4: the economy and for better for the environment. But the
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Speaker 4: fact of the matter is people in Australia are buying
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Speaker 4: pickup trucks and SUVs and those will not A lot
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Speaker 4: of them won't get under the threshold point for these
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Speaker 4: new emissions targets, and there are a vast number of them.
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Speaker 4: What that means is there are somebody's going to have
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Speaker 4: to pay a penalty to the federal government at some point,
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Speaker 4: and businesses, car companies and also dealers and even people
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Speaker 4: who are buying cars are going to have to make
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Speaker 4: decisions about how much they're prepared to put up with.
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Speaker 4: The problem with this is the federal government's just been
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Speaker 4: re elected, so mister Bowen is going to proceed on
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Speaker 4: his merry way thinking that he's got a mandate for this.
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Speaker 3: What potentially is going.
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Speaker 4: To happen is there going to be thousands of dollar
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Speaker 4: price increases on these vehicles because they're trying to skew
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Speaker 4: what people buy and the murder industry. I've been doing
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Speaker 4: this for more than forty years. The one thing you
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Speaker 4: learn is you have to learn to listen to the consumers,
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Speaker 4: and no matter what you provide or how tasty it is,
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Speaker 4: consumers will make their final decision. And at the moment,
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Speaker 4: the consumers of automobiles in this country are not voting
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Speaker 4: towards the policies of the government with this sort of
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Speaker 4: pollution tax, and once the reality starts to buite for
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Speaker 4: dealers and car buyers, there's going to be a huge
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Speaker 4: shock around the motor industry in the second half of
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Speaker 4: this year.
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Speaker 2: You must be listening to my Bitch and Moto over
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Speaker 2: the weekend, Paul, because my car is about six years
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Speaker 2: old due to be turned over to a new version
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Speaker 2: of it, and I go into the dealership. I've currently
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Speaker 2: got a beautiful three Leader six cylinder diesel and they're
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Speaker 2: telling me I can either have an EV or a
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Speaker 2: crappy four cylinder two Leader of the same make, and
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Speaker 2: I say, no, thank you, I'll stay exactly where I am.
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Speaker 6: Because they are caught out.
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Speaker 2: By this cap and I've got no option, but and
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Speaker 2: I drive country miles. I want a decent car. There
39:58
Speaker 2: you go walking with my fate, as Paul says, we will.
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Speaker 6: That's it.
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Speaker 2: Let's go to the break now after break that car
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Speaker 2: crash interview and Paul Kenning is back. Welcome back, well,
40:17
Speaker 2: as I promised you a car crash interview. Today, US
40:20
Speaker 2: Republican Senator of Ted Cruz found himself in a bit
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Speaker 2: of strife with Tacker Carlson over the conflict in the
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Speaker 2: Middle East?
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Speaker 3: How many people living around?
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Speaker 15: By the way, I don't know the population at all. No,
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Speaker 15: I don't know the population. You don't know the population
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Speaker 15: of the country you seek to topple. Why is it
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Speaker 15: relevant whether it will because ninety million or eighty million
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Speaker 15: or one hundred million, Because if you don't know anything
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Speaker 15: about the country, I didn't say I don't know anything
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Speaker 15: about Okay, what's the ethnic mix?
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Speaker 3: Super run.
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Speaker 15: They are Persians and were predominantly Shia. Okay, not even
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Speaker 15: you don't know anything about Iran. So okay, I'm not
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Speaker 15: the Tucker Carlson mixed bird on I ran, you're.
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Speaker 11: A center who's calling from as the one about the country?
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Speaker 6: Now?
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Speaker 2: Unedifying there for cruise. But I have to say I
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Speaker 2: back him in he says the world cannot walk away
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Speaker 2: from what Israel is doing on the world's behalf in
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Speaker 2: relation to Iran and it's nuclear arsenal. But heck, it
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Speaker 2: could have been better prepared for the interview. It certainly
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Speaker 2: wasn't well briefed. But it points to a broader fracturing
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Speaker 2: inside Trump's mega base, with some on the right becoming
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Speaker 2: much more isolationists than the United States has been in
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Speaker 2: the past. Don't be now to discuss this in more
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Speaker 2: Scyniesh contributed Kosher Gada, the past chair of the Parliament's
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Speaker 2: Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee, Michael Danby, Well, Kosher, you
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Speaker 2: know the point I'm made there about the splintering of
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Speaker 2: the base. Obviously lack of preparedness, but broadly, I think
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Speaker 2: this is the fight for the US to be and
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Speaker 2: we're not talking about boots on the ground. We're talking
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Speaker 2: about wiping out the Iranian nuclear arsenal and who can
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Speaker 2: be against that.
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Speaker 5: Yes, this is exposing a fault line pea that is fundamental.
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Speaker 5: I would say it actually has run long throughout US history,
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Speaker 5: right from the founding fathers, World War two, Vietnam. Of course,
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Speaker 5: everything that happened in the Middle least over the last
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Speaker 5: twenty five years and now this, and in large part
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Speaker 5: Trump's rise has been about being a peace naic, non interventionalist,
42:16
Speaker 5: focusing on domestic issues. However, life happens, and this has happened.
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Speaker 5: This is the reality right now. He's also pragmatised. He's
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Speaker 5: weighing up the calculation. I think the base is firmly
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Speaker 5: aligned on not wanting to get dragged into another forever war.
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Speaker 5: That ship has definitely sailed and the support is not there.
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Speaker 5: When we start talking about taking out the nuclear arsenal,
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Speaker 5: these so called buster busting bombs, bunker busting bombs.
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Speaker 6: Excuse me, etc.
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Speaker 5: There, I think you do see a little bit more
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Speaker 5: nuanced and there are people coming over to his side.
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Speaker 5: That is a calculation he's making. Can he do something strategically,
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Speaker 5: tactically but very restrained and contained that will not spill
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Speaker 5: out into the US getting sucked into boots on the
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Speaker 5: ground for twenty years because that appetite is not there.
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Speaker 2: And I think let's pick out what Cruz had to
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Speaker 2: say he was walking through the Congress holes and he
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Speaker 2: makes that very distinction.
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Speaker 6: Have listened.
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Speaker 15: I agree with President Trump that Iran with a nuclear
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Speaker 15: weapon is an unacceptable resk to America and we need
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Speaker 15: to stop it.
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Speaker 6: Not the right brab there.
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Speaker 2: I wanted to show him walking through the Congress there,
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Speaker 2: but he makes the point that this isn't boots on ground, Michael.
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Speaker 2: This is something that we all need to particularly us
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Speaker 2: in the West. We all need to be on the
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Speaker 2: same page here, and we can't go as far as
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Speaker 2: we have gone now. I won't say William and Israel's
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Speaker 2: done the heavy lifting to get to this point and
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Speaker 2: squib it at the end and walk away, Michael and
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Speaker 2: leave Iran with the arsenal intact.
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Speaker 6: I mean, we've got to go right through now and
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Speaker 6: finish the job.
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Speaker 1: Described Carson as a kook the other day in a tweet,
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Speaker 1: he excluded Tulsi Gabbard from Camp David after she made
43:54
Speaker 1: another kooky broadcast, saying that only the Warmers wanted to
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Speaker 1: do something about Iran. No one is suggesting that there
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Speaker 1: be any infantry or boots on the ground. That would
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Speaker 1: be a bad idea. Most of them are even shying
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Speaker 1: away from saying they're in favor of regime change. But
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Speaker 1: the Israelies had the intelligence that at the last minute,
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Speaker 1: the Uranians were rushing towards a nuclear weapon. Can anyone
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Speaker 1: doubt it? From Penny Wong to Tulsi Gabbard after seeing
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Speaker 1: a one tun ballistic missile land deliberately on Bearsheba's Serok
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Speaker 1: hospital just a few hours ago, God helped the world.
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Speaker 1: If these Iranian mullers had an afmbomb to tip their
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Speaker 1: ballistic missiles with.
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Speaker 6: Absolutely.
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Speaker 2: I got to ask you what's going on inside labor
44:48
Speaker 2: because earlier this week we saw a rare breakout of
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Speaker 2: sanity from Defense Minister Richard Miles who said Australia would
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Speaker 2: play a key role in any potential US China conflict
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Speaker 2: in the Pacific region. Well, you know that's the bleeding obvious.
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Speaker 2: We've got a thing called the Answers Treaty that would
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Speaker 2: require that.
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Speaker 6: But that's prompted Paul Keening.
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Speaker 2: To come out, who has now accused Miles of quote
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Speaker 2: a careless betrayal of Australian independence. Keating says that China
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Speaker 2: has no intention of threatening US.
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Speaker 1: Michael I love Paul Keating's rants. Gary Gray, the former
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Speaker 1: National Secretary, described him as Captain Wacki and you should
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Speaker 1: see it just as theater Peter. It's so funny. I mean,
45:31
Speaker 1: he's rants in the inner City about the architecture of
45:35
Speaker 1: Sydney and the landscapes, etc. You should you should watch
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Speaker 1: them that this is not serious, Richard Miles himself, if
45:44
Speaker 1: you ask me, is not serious. What we really need
45:47
Speaker 1: to do is increase our defense spending, not because the
45:50
Speaker 1: Americans demand us to, but because the Chinese Navy is
45:53
Speaker 1: circumnavigating Australia. And Paul Keating is a lovely theatrical person
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Speaker 1: in his red slip, because he's a complete irrelevance and
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Speaker 1: you should just see him as Gary Gray did as
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Speaker 1: Captain Wacky.
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Speaker 2: All right, talk to me, Kosher about our prime minister
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Speaker 2: doing the diplomatic equivalent of a stalking boyfriend left to
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Speaker 2: the altar in Canada by the US President. He's now
46:20
Speaker 2: going to come home to Australia for a couple of days,
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Speaker 2: one day maybe, and then race across to NATO and
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Speaker 2: hope that he probably catches the President in the toilet
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Speaker 2: or in a corridor somewhere.
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Speaker 6: I mean, I think it's unedified.
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Speaker 2: Clearly his officers spooked about some sort of over off
46:34
Speaker 2: a showdown right that they don't want that sort of theater.
46:38
Speaker 2: But given we're seven months on from the Donald Trump
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Speaker 2: reelection in November, our bloke has never met this bloke,
46:44
Speaker 2: Our bloc has said plenty of nasty stuff about him.
46:47
Speaker 2: Are you surprised Australia hasn't done enough to have this
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Speaker 2: face to face meeting, you know, calm the ego of
46:56
Speaker 2: the president and get some of our issues dealt with promptly.
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Speaker 6: Well a little bit, and that was quite the metaphor
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Speaker 6: of pea.
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Speaker 5: I think that imagery is sticking in people's minds, trying
47:05
Speaker 5: to chase them around the world and get that meeting.
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Speaker 5: When we've had one hundred days over here, all sorts
47:09
Speaker 5: of people have gone in. Yes, you know, you don't
47:11
Speaker 5: know what you're walking into when you walk into the
47:13
Speaker 5: lion's den of the White House. We've seen that. But
47:15
Speaker 5: you've got to grab the bull by its horns. It
47:17
Speaker 5: is a friendly relationship, one hundred year partnership. There are
47:21
Speaker 5: issues that Australia brings to the table that are of.
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Speaker 6: Interest to Trump.
47:24
Speaker 5: Do you have a trade surplus, the positions geographically in
47:27
Speaker 5: this part of the world, proximity to China, et cetera.
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Speaker 5: There's plenty that can be used here, and it doesn't
47:32
Speaker 5: come across as being particularly strong if you're not being
47:36
Speaker 5: proactive about getting a meeting and trying to at least
47:38
Speaker 5: frame some sort of a trade deal on your terms,
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Speaker 5: even if you don't hold all the cards.
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Speaker 6: Say Michael, I'm sorry, Oh, I was just going to
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Speaker 6: bring you in.
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Speaker 2: I think we're about the anyone left in the I
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Speaker 2: the J twenty that has not had that feist device
47:54
Speaker 2: many and Peter.
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Speaker 1: It's becoming really dangerous now. So imagine he goes to
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Speaker 1: Brussels and he's dateless again. Then he has to go
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Speaker 1: back to Washington and try and sit in the Zelensky chair.
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Speaker 1: This is all being built up to an extent that's
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Speaker 1: causing a crisis between the two countries that is absolutely
48:19
Speaker 1: unnecessary and could have been handled in a much better way.
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Speaker 1: People have to blame Elbow and Wong for jeopardizing our
48:26
Speaker 1: relationship with a country where you may not like the president.
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Speaker 1: But Keirs Starma has shown that the labor government, even
48:33
Speaker 1: that sends staff to work against Trump's reelection, can repair
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Speaker 1: the relationship. Behave like adults and generate the relationship between
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Speaker 1: the two countries that a great country like Australia deserve.
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Speaker 6: I got to leave it there.
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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Michael, thank you Kosher, thank you,
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Speaker 2: my love, your audience. I'll see you on Monday. That's
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Speaker 2: it for me.
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Speaker 6: Have a good weekend.