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Will Jeremiah Smith Break More Ohio State Records In 2025? · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Wednesday, February twelfth time,
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  Speaker 1: your host Tom Moore. The Texas game is in one
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  Speaker 1: joined by Tony Gurderman at Buckehiddle dot com. Tony, you
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  Speaker 1: and I have been in the YouTube business and the
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  Speaker 1: podcast business for a while. Now, I'm going to tell
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  Speaker 1: you the names of the four wide receivers we're going
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  Speaker 1: to be talking about on today's show. I'm going to
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  Speaker 1: have you tell me which one you think I'm going
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  Speaker 1: to put in the headline. All right, here are the
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  Speaker 1: four names. Bryson Rodgers, Brandon Innis, Carnel Tait and Jeremiah Smith. Tony,
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  Speaker 1: take as long as you need to think about who
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  Speaker 1: I might be putting in the headline for the show.
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  Speaker 2: Tom, we got a pretty good idea that you're going
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  Speaker 2: to put Jeremiah Smith's name in the headline, So now
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  Speaker 2: I feel obligated to talk about them, or else I wouldn't,
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  Speaker 2: we would just move on. But since I know you're trying,
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  Speaker 2: you're always trying to get clicks, and you're trying to
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  Speaker 2: get the views, I don't know, I don't know why
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  Speaker 2: you'd want to get views on the YouTube. But if
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  Speaker 2: we must talk about Jeremiah Smith, fine, but can we
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  Speaker 2: make it quick? I mean, is there much to talk about?
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  Speaker 1: Well, here's what I was going to talk about with
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  Speaker 1: Jeremiah Smith, and we'll go through. And this is a show.
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  Speaker 1: We're looking at the four guys who played a decent
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  Speaker 1: amount and played some meaningful snaps last year. I know,
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  Speaker 1: you know Bryson Rogers and Brandon Innis did not put
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  Speaker 1: up huge numbers, but they were guys who you saw
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  Speaker 1: playing in the College Football playoff and in kind of
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  Speaker 1: meaningful situations at times. So we're kind of do lumping
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  Speaker 1: them in with the returning receivers. There's enough guys who
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  Speaker 1: were not in that group who didn't play a whole
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  Speaker 1: heck of a lot, or guys who are new this
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  Speaker 1: year who we're going to do a separate show with them,
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  Speaker 1: sort of doing a spring preview. But first of all,
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  Speaker 1: these four guys we're going to as you, as you
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  Speaker 1: correctly surmised, We're going to start with Jeremiah Smith. I'm
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  Speaker 1: just going to read his stat line from his true
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  Speaker 1: freshman season again Crewe freshman season. Seventy six receptions, one
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  Speaker 1: three hundred and fifteen yards, fifteen touchdowns. Those numbers. Just
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  Speaker 1: put those in some historical context for once again drew
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  Speaker 1: freshman Jeremiah Smith. That is fifth all time in Ohio
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  Speaker 1: state history in a single season. For receptions, fourth all
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  Speaker 1: time in Ohio state history in single season four yardage,
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  Speaker 1: second all time behind only Terry Glenn in touchdowns in
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  Speaker 1: a single season. And yeah, I can hear people going, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but he had sixteen get true. I'm going to again
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  Speaker 1: repeat the phrase true freshman. So, Tony, my question to you,
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  Speaker 1: I don't think there's much to talk about with him
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  Speaker 1: in terms of springball. Is Jeremiah Smith going to break
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  Speaker 1: any of these single season records this year coming up
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  Speaker 1: as a sophomore. And I will read those numbers to you.
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  Speaker 1: Ninety five receptions, one thousand, six hundred and one yards
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  Speaker 1: and seventeen touchdowns. Does Jeremiah Smith break any of the
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  Speaker 1: single season Ohio State receiving records year?
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  Speaker 2: Well, that depends on does he drop his first pass
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  Speaker 2: of the year like he did as a rookie as
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  Speaker 2: a true freshman. I mean, let's not forget all of
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  Speaker 2: these accolades dropped his first pass. Imagine what a season
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  Speaker 2: could have been with that catch and like a seventy
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  Speaker 2: yard run and a touchdown. But of those, I think
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  Speaker 2: the best chance is the touchdowns. And really I'm wondering,
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  Speaker 2: like what kind of defenses do we see against Jeremiah Smith?
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  Speaker 1: Now?
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  Speaker 2: Is it going to be what Texas did?
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  Speaker 1: Like?
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  Speaker 2: Do you change what you do for Jeremiah Smith in
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  Speaker 2: Ohio State? Can you change what you do? So I'm
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  Speaker 2: gonna be fascinated to see how teams handle him, because
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  Speaker 2: if you are a new starting quarterback in Ohio State's
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  Speaker 2: going to have a new starting quarterback, you're telling me
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  Speaker 2: you're not gonna be looking at guy's way. And then
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  Speaker 2: if there are two guys over there and you've got
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  Speaker 2: Cardinal Tape or you've got Brandon Innison, We'll get to
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  Speaker 2: those guys. But for a young quarterback, it would be
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  Speaker 2: really difficult not too lean on am I A. Smith.
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  Speaker 2: Think back to the way com Accord would lean on
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  Speaker 2: Marvin Harrison Junior. And you've got somebody that everybody knows
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  Speaker 2: is much better than Marvin Harrison Junior. Maybe one day,
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  Speaker 2: but like there's there's a it would be difficult not
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  Speaker 2: to throw to him, basically, But also, like what are
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  Speaker 2: defenses doing because they're not they just can't play him
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  Speaker 2: straight up? Right, I mean, I'm expecting I'm expecting the
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  Speaker 2: numbers to come down a little just because defenses are
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  Speaker 2: more aware, But like how long the defenses need to
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  Speaker 2: be before they fully respected him? Like they should have
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  Speaker 2: caught on a little bit sooner than they did, right.
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  Speaker 1: They certainly should have. I do think there's a certain
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  Speaker 1: amount of this where if you're Northwestern or if you
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  Speaker 1: were Rutgers or Maryland or whoever, where you know the
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  Speaker 1: realistically you know coming in like yeah, you know we're
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  Speaker 1: a thirty one point underdog for a reason. Are you
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  Speaker 1: completely you know, spending a whole week redoing everything for
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  Speaker 1: a game where it's like, well maybe if we do,
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  Speaker 1: if we play our cards just right, someone else can
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  Speaker 1: beat us instead. I mean, I guess Northwestern kind of
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  Speaker 1: did that because that was the Carneal tape two touchdown game,
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  Speaker 1: so they kind of did that. But I don't know
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  Speaker 1: that that's something that in a seven day quick turnaround
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  Speaker 1: where it's not a little bit of an extended thing
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  Speaker 1: like in the college football playoff, if you can reshuffle
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  Speaker 1: things quite as much. But yeah, I'm expecting to see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, the college football equivalent of a box and
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  Speaker 1: one or maybe a triangle and two against him as
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  Speaker 1: often as they possibly can can run that out without completely,
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  Speaker 1: you know, blowing up their season and wasting a week
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  Speaker 1: of practice and all that kind of stuff. But I
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  Speaker 1: think there's also just you're going you're potentially not going
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  Speaker 1: to see sixteen games for Ohio State, so that probably
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  Speaker 1: takes those numbers down at least a little bit. And
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  Speaker 1: you don't have a Mecca Abuca, so that probably takes
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  Speaker 1: those numbers down at least a little bit. And we'll see,
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  Speaker 1: you know, Will Howard to Julian say, and this time
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  Speaker 1: last year you would have said, well, certainly that's going
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  Speaker 1: to be a much more talented quarterback than in twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty five than twenty twenty four. And then Will Howard
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  Speaker 1: exceeded all expectations, and we'll see how Will Howard, will
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  Speaker 1: Howard's replacement, whether it's Julian Sayan or Lincoln Keyholes, plays
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  Speaker 1: out this year. But I'm with you in that I
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  Speaker 1: think that you're probably not going to see any of
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  Speaker 1: those records broken. But if you do, the order of
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  Speaker 1: likelihood is probably touchdowns, then yards, then receptions. Ninety five
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  Speaker 1: receptions is just a ton of receptions. And with the
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  Speaker 1: Wayo House it was sort of managing snaps and all
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  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. This year, you're probably not going
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  Speaker 1: to see as many you know, you're not going to
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  Speaker 1: see as many targets and as many receptions. That was
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  Speaker 1: what I think it was Paris Campbell and that was
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  Speaker 1: in twenty.
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  Speaker 2: Eighteen, Jackson Smith, the Jigma.
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  Speaker 1: Oh it was Jackson spit a jigba Okay, yeah, but
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  Speaker 1: again that was that was a year where the defense
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  Speaker 1: was the point stands, whether it was Paris Campbell in
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  Speaker 1: twenty eighteen or Jackson Smith and Jigbit in twenty twenty one. Boy,
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  Speaker 1: if the defense is very bad, then you're going to
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  Speaker 1: have to do a lot more throwing and have a
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  Speaker 1: lot more offense and a lot more everything. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's probably not a coincidence that those two guys were
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  Speaker 1: both right at the top of that pile. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: and then Jackson Smith a Jigbo sixteen oh six, that
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  Speaker 1: was his mark as well in twenty twenty one. So
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  Speaker 1: all right, So there's there's your Jeremiah Smith talk for
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  Speaker 1: the week. Don't worry, it will probably not be the
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  Speaker 1: last time we talked about Jeremiah Smith, even before spring
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  Speaker 1: football starts. Next up, we're going to talk about Carnel
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  Speaker 1: Tate and his numbers look fantastic for his second year
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  Speaker 1: receiver at Ohio State. Fifty two catches, seven hundred and
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  Speaker 1: thirty three yards, four touchdowns. Those historically are great numbers.
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  Speaker 1: They get completely swallowed up by Jeremiah Smith numbers and
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  Speaker 1: Mecha Bbugas numbers. Both of those guys were over a
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  Speaker 1: thousand yards and ten touchdowns each. So in comparison, that's
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  Speaker 1: a relatively you know, a little bit of a quiet season,
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  Speaker 1: but again in historical context, that's an enormous season by
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  Speaker 1: Ohio State standard. So it feels like he's won where
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  Speaker 1: I look at his numbnumbers and I go over over
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  Speaker 1: and over for him. In the twenty twenty five season.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure. I'm just wondering, like, what are whose
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  Speaker 2: numbers are? Like, is a Mecca Bukaz season a baseline
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  Speaker 2: for carneal Tate or is it the Mecca's yards and
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  Speaker 2: Jeremiah's catches because those numbers are going to go somewhere,
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  Speaker 2: and certainly they'll trickle down past Carnel Tait as well.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, over over fifty, I'm thinking thinking close to
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  Speaker 2: seventy catches and you know, eleven hundred yards something like that.
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  Speaker 2: And because you gotta remember, for as much attention as
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  Speaker 2: going to be on Jeremiah Smith, like, there's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: less attention on Carnal Tate and defenses are gonna be like, well,
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  Speaker 2: he's the lesser of two evils. It's like, well, the
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  Speaker 2: lesser of two evils just went for one hundred and
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  Speaker 2: twenty yards on you guys, two touchdowns, So I don't
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  Speaker 2: know how lesser he is. He said, he looks pretty
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  Speaker 2: evil though, based on what he's doing to your box score,
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  Speaker 2: and he's gonna have all kinds of opportunities year.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know this is something where we had
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  Speaker 1: this conversation a bunch during the playoff where you looked
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  Speaker 1: at all at the opposing team's two corners and said, well,
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  Speaker 1: if they put their number one corner on Jeremiah Smith,
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  Speaker 1: and sometimes they did, and sometimes they did and sometimes
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  Speaker 1: they'd take the second guy and you know, try and
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  Speaker 1: you give him some help. But if you figure your
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  Speaker 1: number one corner is going to be on Jeremiah Smith
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  Speaker 1: more often than not, most opposing teams are not going
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  Speaker 1: to have a second corner as good as Ohio State's
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  Speaker 1: second wide receiver, and they're certainly not going to have
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  Speaker 1: a third corner as good as ohios To third wide receiver.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I do. I do expect a nice little
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  Speaker 1: bump there, for a nice little bump for him in
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  Speaker 1: terms of what this next season could mean statistically. Next up,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to Brandon Innis fourteen catches, one hundred and
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  Speaker 1: seventy six yards, one touchdown, which it felt. It feels
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  Speaker 1: like his role on this team was probably bigger than
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  Speaker 1: those numbers would suggest. You look at those numbers and
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  Speaker 1: it's like, well, he probably just played in garbage time.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, no, I mean, he had a really
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  Speaker 1: really consequential catch in the National Championship Game and had
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  Speaker 1: some big plays, you know, throughout the year. He had
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  Speaker 1: some some big touchdowns in meaningful he had his touchdown
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  Speaker 1: came in a meaningful moment, He had some big receptions
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  Speaker 1: in meaningful moments. He was he played a bigger role
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  Speaker 1: than you would expect. And now you know now that
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  Speaker 1: that the meddlesome Mecca Ibuka is out of the way,
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  Speaker 1: the slot is all his unless they want to play
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  Speaker 1: someone else there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they've they'll have him as that main slot guy,
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  Speaker 2: but then they're also going to move CARNELLL. Tate and
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  Speaker 2: Jeremiah Smith in there as well and rotate some guys.
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  Speaker 2: But he's been a pretty patient person and from enrolling.
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  Speaker 2: You wonder if would he have seen the field more
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  Speaker 2: if he had enrolled early as a true freshman rather
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  Speaker 2: than waiting until June because that's when his high school
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  Speaker 2: would let him, you know, enroll. So he kind of
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  Speaker 2: got a late start quote unquote compared to a lot
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  Speaker 2: of guys, and and then also being stuck behind the
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  Speaker 2: roster that he has been so far. But now now
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  Speaker 2: there's nothing holding him back and so he's going to play.
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  Speaker 2: I'm fascinated to see what he does. Is he can
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  Speaker 2: he become a big play guy, or is he you know,
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  Speaker 2: eleven twelve yards a catch type of guy that is
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  Speaker 2: just tough to cover in the slot, but he catches
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  Speaker 2: it and then gets tackled. Can he be something after
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  Speaker 2: the catch? Can he do some things like that? So
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  Speaker 2: I think he's he's a different type of slot receiver
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  Speaker 2: than Ohio State has had or that they've used recently,
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  Speaker 2: because he's not a Mecca a Buka. He's a little
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  Speaker 2: bit different. So I'm interested to see how they use
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  Speaker 2: him and how much, you know, how much do they
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  Speaker 2: use him with the jet sweeps and things like that,
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  Speaker 2: does he carry the ball? You know, what all do
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  Speaker 2: they do with them? And you know, we see him
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  Speaker 2: all the time celebrating everybody's touchdown. He's an incredible energy giver.
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  Speaker 2: So like he's he's an exciting guy and he's going
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  Speaker 2: to be excitable as well.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's someone who we I mean, I remember watching
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  Speaker 1: him at a camp in what the summer of twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty two, maybe twenty twenty one. I mean it has
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  Speaker 1: been a while and watching him just just I mean
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  Speaker 1: torch people in the open field, just in those one
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  Speaker 1: on one drills. And he came to Ohio State relatively
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  Speaker 1: polished as far as high school receivers go. He was
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  Speaker 1: one of those guys on that South Florida Express team,
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  Speaker 1: so he's been going up against really really high level
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  Speaker 1: competition for quite a while. He's also someone who, as
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  Speaker 1: you said, enrolled later, didn't he was a June and rollie,
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  Speaker 1: not a spring and rollie. That always does set you
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  Speaker 1: back a little bit. You wonder if he would be
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  Speaker 1: you know, his second year stats might have looked like
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  Speaker 1: his first year. His second year stats might have been
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  Speaker 1: his first year stats if he didn't rolled early. But
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  Speaker 1: you know he is. He is right on time now
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  Speaker 1: for a potentially far, far bigger role this year. Someone
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  Speaker 1: else who could be in line for a far bigger
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  Speaker 1: role this year. Fourth guy we need to talk about,
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  Speaker 1: and that is Bryson Rodgers. Another guy who five catches
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  Speaker 1: forty six yards and that you know, that's like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: well that's that's clearly you were just you never played
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  Speaker 1: a meaningful snap and it's like, no, you we saw
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  Speaker 1: Bryson Rodgers in I think Bryson Rodgers played. He was
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  Speaker 1: on the field for one of the touchdowns against Penn
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  Speaker 1: State that might have been the Brandon in a touchdown.
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  Speaker 1: I think where you know, you saw these guys. They
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  Speaker 1: were getting rotation, they're getting snaps bright Brian Hartlin was
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  Speaker 1: rotating these guys and it was not just okay, it's
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  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter against Western Michigan, Like these these are
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  Speaker 1: guys who are trusted and it's just a matter of
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  Speaker 1: it's hard to get on the field with these guys
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  Speaker 1: ahead of you. Bryson Rodgers looked like he was out
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  Speaker 1: the door this time last year, ended up coming back,
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  Speaker 1: took on a bigger role last year and seems like
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  Speaker 1: he could be in line for a bigger role again
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  Speaker 1: this fall.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, everybody moves up a spot, but he's
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  Speaker 2: also he can I think you can see playing time
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  Speaker 2: like there's a horizon there that you can you can achieve.
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  Speaker 2: So it'd be interesting to see how much he attacks that.
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  Speaker 2: But he's the guy that could play inside nowside has
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  Speaker 2: been mostly inside who his Ohio State career, but is
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  Speaker 2: also a guy that has been talked about with the
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  Speaker 2: like the in house record breaking targeting numbers where quarterback
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  Speaker 2: throws to him, it's completed at a higher level than
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  Speaker 2: any any receiver before him, Like this was this is
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  Speaker 2: something that was talking about I think is true freshman
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  Speaker 2: year of twenty twenty three, didn't hear much about it
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  Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four. I don't think, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: I don't expect that he dropped off the face of
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  Speaker 2: the earth in terms of successful targets. So he's a
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  Speaker 2: guy that has been able to get open. I saw him,
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  Speaker 2: like somebody wrote about him one of the may maybe
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  Speaker 2: a level Wars one of the outlets wrote about him
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  Speaker 2: and quoted him as saying, like, you know, I think
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  Speaker 2: I'm one of the best route runners in the nation,
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  Speaker 2: and he quote tweeted He's like, I misspoke, I'm the best,
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  Speaker 2: you know, something to that effect. So also showing that
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  Speaker 2: confidence that you kind of need to really make your
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  Speaker 2: mark in the Ohio State receiver room.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, leading the team at one point in efficiency of targets,
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  Speaker 1: and leading the team also in confidence, which in that
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver room there is not a lack of confidence.
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  Speaker 1: So it is a high praise, high praise. Indeed, we'll
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  Speaker 1: see what his role looks like this fall. But he's
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  Speaker 1: going to have to keep working as well as as
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  Speaker 1: all four of those guys are, because there are some
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  Speaker 1: very very talented younger guys coming up behind them on
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  Speaker 1: that depth chart. That's the thing about the time the
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  Speaker 1: wide receiver room. The talent just keeps coming, and it
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  Speaker 1: is you have to always keep working because you've got
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  Speaker 1: you've got very talent guys coming behind you. And I
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  Speaker 1: started saying tight end there because I was already thinking,
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  Speaker 1: I wonder how much twelve personnel they're going to play
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  Speaker 1: this year, because you got some really talented tight ends
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  Speaker 1: in there as well, and so you might you might
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  Speaker 1: lose some wide receiver snaps there as well. So well,
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  Speaker 1: that's all stuff we'll be talking about plenty as we
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  Speaker 1: you have not got your national championship confetti yet, well
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  Speaker 1: there is still a little bit left. We're getting down
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  Speaker 1: towards the bottom of the bag. But if you want something,
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  Speaker 1: you can become a member at bucke huddle dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Instructions on how to get yours are on the huddle board,
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  Speaker 1: presented by Jeff Ruby's Columbus. That will do it for today.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you guys all for joining us. Have a great day.
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  Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow.