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BONUS: A Deep Dive into the Swingin' D: Techniques and Tips with Mike Schultz · The Long Haul with The Articulate Fly

0:04
Hey
0:04
folks,
0:05
it's
0:05
Marvin
0:05
Cash,
0:06
the
0:06
host
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of
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The
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Butcher
0:06
Shop
0:07
where
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the
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Meat
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Meets
0:08
the
0:09
Water.
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On
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this
0:10
episode,
0:11
I'm
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joined
0:11
by
0:11
Mike
0:11
Schultz.
0:12
Mike
0:12
and
0:13
I
0:13
take
0:13
a
0:13
deep
0:13
dive
0:13
into
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the
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Swingin'
0:14
D
0:14
from
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the
0:15
original
0:15
pre-shank
0:16
version
0:16
to
0:16
all
0:17
of
0:17
today's
0:17
variations.
0:19
Mike
0:19
also
0:19
catches
0:20
us
0:20
up
0:20
on
0:20
Schultz
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Outfitter's
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new
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e
0:21
commerce
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site
0:22
and
0:22
all
0:23
of
0:23
the
0:23
upcoming
0:23
events
0:23
at
0:24
the
0:24
shop.
0:24
I
0:24
think
0:25
you're
0:25
really
0:25
going
0:25
to
0:25
enjoy
0:25
this
0:25
one.
0:27
But
0:27
before
0:27
we
0:27
get
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to
0:27
the
0:28
interview,
0:28
just
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a
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couple
0:29
of
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housekeeping
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items
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to
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make
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sure
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you
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don't
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miss
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a
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0:38
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1:30
Well,
1:30
Mike,
1:30
welcome
1:30
to
1:30
The
1:31
Butcher
1:31
Shop.
1:32
Thanks
1:33
brother.
1:33
Looking
1:33
forward
1:33
to
1:33
it.
1:34
Yeah,
1:34
absolutely.
1:35
And
1:35
you
1:35
know,
1:35
before
1:35
we
1:35
take
1:36
a
1:36
deep
1:36
dive
1:36
into
1:36
the
1:36
Swingin'
1:37
D
1:37
this
1:37
evening,
1:38
you
1:38
know,
1:38
tell
1:38
me
1:38
how
1:38
your
1:39
your
1:39
smallmouth
1:40
season
1:40
was
1:40
last
1:40
year.
1:41
Yeah,
1:42
smallmouth
1:42
season
1:43
was
1:43
good.
1:44
I
1:44
still
1:44
guide
1:45
quite
1:45
a
1:46
bit
1:46
during
1:46
what
1:46
I
1:46
consider
1:47
the
1:47
peak
1:47
of
1:47
peak,
1:48
which
1:48
is,
1:49
you
1:49
know,
1:49
those
1:49
early
1:50
months
1:50
of
1:51
the
1:51
year.
1:51
So
1:52
late
1:52
March,
1:52
all
1:53
April,
1:53
all
1:54
of
1:54
May,
1:55
train
1:55
trickle
1:56
into
1:56
June
1:56
a
1:57
little
1:57
bit.
1:57
But
1:58
in
1:58
Mount
1:58
There
1:59
when
1:59
the
1:59
water
1:59
is
1:59
the
1:59
highest
2:00
and
2:01
you
2:01
know,
2:02
just
2:02
watch
2:02
Michigan
2:03
come
2:03
alive
2:03
during
2:04
that
2:04
10
2:04
to
2:05
11
2:05
week
2:05
period
2:06
and
2:07
you
2:07
know,
2:07
it's
2:07
always
2:08
good,
2:08
you
2:08
know,
2:08
if
2:09
you're,
2:09
if
2:09
you're
2:09
on
2:09
the
2:09
water
2:10
five,
2:10
six,
2:10
seven
2:11
days
2:11
a
2:11
week,
2:11
it's,
2:12
it's
2:12
going
2:12
to
2:12
be
2:12
a
2:13
roller
2:13
coaster.
2:14
And
2:15
you
2:15
know,
2:15
just
2:15
like
2:16
every
2:16
season
2:17
at
2:17
last
2:17
year
2:17
had
2:18
its
2:18
own
2:18
unique
2:18
roller
2:19
coaster.
2:19
So
2:21
it
2:21
was
2:21
good.
2:21
It
2:21
was
2:22
good.
2:22
I
2:22
had
2:22
a
2:22
great
2:22
time,
2:23
had
2:23
a
2:23
lot
2:23
of
2:23
memorable
2:24
moments
2:24
in
2:25
the
2:25
boat
2:25
A
2:25
lot
2:26
of
2:26
big
2:26
fish
2:26
hit
2:26
the
2:27
net
2:27
and
2:28
as
2:28
always,
2:28
as
2:29
you're
2:29
fishing
2:29
and
2:29
guiding
2:30
and
2:30
observing,
2:31
you
2:31
learn
2:31
a
2:32
lot.
2:32
So
2:33
year
2:33
was
2:33
a
2:33
success.
2:34
Yeah,
2:34
that's
2:35
great.
2:35
And
2:35
I
2:35
think
2:35
probably
2:35
the
2:36
biggest
2:36
thing
2:36
I
2:36
kind
2:36
of
2:37
saw
2:37
kind
2:38
of
2:38
on
2:38
social
2:38
media
2:38
was
2:39
I
2:39
guess
2:39
maybe
2:39
like
2:40
right
2:40
around
2:40
Thanksgiving
2:41
or
2:41
right
2:41
before
2:42
you
2:42
guys
2:42
got
2:42
your
2:43
E.
2:43
Commerce
2:43
platform
2:44
off
2:44
the
2:44
ground,
2:44
right?
2:45
Correct.
2:46
Yes,
2:47
yes.
2:47
Things
2:48
rapidly
2:49
changed
2:49
around
2:49
here,
2:49
that's
2:50
for
2:50
sure.
2:51
Was
2:51
that
2:51
a
2:51
gruesome
2:52
experience
2:52
or
2:52
did
2:53
it
2:53
go
2:53
pretty
2:53
smoothly?
2:54
Honestly,
2:55
it
2:55
was,
2:56
it
2:56
went,
2:56
it
2:56
went
2:57
smooth,
2:57
my
2:57
man.
2:58
I,
2:59
I
2:59
would
2:59
say
3:00
much
3:00
smoother
3:00
than
3:01
I
3:01
had
3:01
anticipated
3:02
in
3:02
my
3:03
head.
3:04
So
3:04
the
3:05
guys
3:05
that
3:05
are
3:05
kind
3:05
of
3:05
taking
3:06
the
3:06
reins
3:06
on
3:06
that
3:07
are,
3:08
they're
3:08
good,
3:09
they're
3:09
good
3:09
at
3:09
what
3:09
they
3:10
do
3:10
and
3:11
they
3:11
get
3:11
stuff
3:11
done
3:12
and
3:12
they're
3:12
self
3:12
starters
3:13
and
3:14
yeah,
3:15
minimal
3:15
micromanagement
3:16
along
3:17
the
3:17
way
3:17
and
3:17
they've
3:17
been
3:18
crushing
3:18
it.
3:19
You
3:19
know,
3:19
tip
3:20
of
3:20
the
3:20
hat
3:20
to
3:20
Adek
3:21
and
3:21
Simon.
3:22
But
3:23
yeah,
3:23
man,
3:24
it's
3:25
good.
3:25
It's
3:25
going
3:26
as
3:26
expected
3:27
on
3:27
the,
3:27
you
3:28
know,
3:28
sales
3:29
end
3:29
of
3:29
thing,
3:29
I
3:29
guess
3:30
you
3:30
would
3:30
say.
3:31
Yeah.
3:31
And
3:31
I
3:31
know
3:31
you
3:31
guys
3:32
are
3:32
always
3:32
kind
3:32
of
3:32
doing
3:33
cool
3:33
things.
3:33
So,
3:34
you
3:34
know,
3:34
anything
3:34
you
3:34
can
3:35
kind
3:35
of
3:35
tease
3:35
for,
3:36
kind
3:36
of
3:36
how
3:36
you're
3:36
going
3:36
to
3:36
be
3:37
able
3:37
to
3:37
kind
3:37
of,
3:38
you
3:38
know,
3:38
help
3:38
all
3:39
the
3:39
customers
3:39
a
3:39
little
3:40
bit
3:40
more
3:40
than
3:40
you
3:40
were,
3:41
you
3:41
know,
3:41
for
3:41
on
3:41
the
3:42
physical
3:42
side
3:42
and
3:42
calling
3:43
on
3:43
the
3:43
phone
3:43
and
3:43
getting
3:43
stuff
3:43
ordered.
3:45
Yeah,
3:45
it's
3:45
just,
3:45
you
3:45
know,
3:46
makes
3:46
things
3:46
a
3:46
little,
3:47
a
3:47
little
3:47
smoother,
3:48
you
3:48
know,
3:48
I
3:49
mean,
3:49
everybody's
3:49
busy.
3:50
I
3:50
think
3:51
that
3:51
the
3:51
customer,
3:52
you
3:52
know,
3:52
we
3:52
have
3:53
a
3:53
lot
3:53
of
3:53
customers
3:53
that,
3:54
you
3:54
know,
3:54
they
3:54
know
3:54
we
3:55
have
3:55
the
3:55
E.
3:55
Comm.
3:55
It's
3:55
been
3:56
up
3:56
for
3:56
a
3:56
couple
3:56
months
3:56
now,
3:57
but
3:57
they
3:57
still
3:58
want
3:58
to
3:58
call
3:58
and
3:59
still
3:59
want
3:59
to
3:59
chat.
4:01
So
4:01
yeah,
4:01
that,
4:02
that
4:02
part
4:02
of
4:02
Schultz
4:03
Outfitters
4:03
is
4:04
by
4:04
no
4:05
means
4:05
gone.
4:05
You
4:06
could
4:06
still
4:06
call
4:06
and
4:06
talk
4:07
to
4:07
your
4:07
favorite
4:08
team
4:08
member
4:09
here,
4:09
whether
4:09
it
4:09
be
4:10
Jesse
4:10
or
4:10
Corey
4:11
or
4:11
Matt
4:11
or
4:11
myself
4:12
or
4:12
whoever.
4:13
So,
4:14
you
4:14
know,
4:14
the
4:14
old
4:14
Schultz
4:15
Outfitters
4:15
will
4:15
never
4:16
go
4:16
away.
4:16
We're
4:16
going
4:16
to
4:17
start,
4:17
you
4:17
know,
4:17
improving
4:18
and
4:18
make
4:18
it
4:18
things
4:19
smoother
4:19
for,
4:20
for
4:20
all
4:20
the
4:20
people
4:21
involved
4:21
with
4:21
the,
4:21
you
4:21
know,
4:22
a
4:22
transaction
4:22
and
4:22
whatnot.
4:23
Very,
4:24
very
4:24
cool.
4:24
And
4:25
so
4:25
as
4:25
we
4:25
jump
4:26
to
4:26
the,
4:26
to
4:26
the
4:26
streamer
4:27
side
4:27
of
4:27
things,
4:28
you
4:28
know,
4:28
where
4:28
did
4:28
the
4:29
name
4:29
for
4:29
the
4:29
Swingin'
4:29
D
4:29
come
4:30
from?
4:31
So
4:31
the
4:31
Swingin'
4:32
D.
4:32
So,
4:33
you
4:33
know,
4:34
developing
4:34
this
4:35
fly,
4:36
you
4:37
know,
4:37
I
4:37
eventually
4:39
found
4:39
the
4:40
proper
4:40
head
4:40
to
4:41
run
4:41
with
4:41
it.
4:41
Right.
4:42
Wasn't
4:42
that
4:42
happened
4:42
to
4:42
be,
4:43
you
4:43
know,
4:44
a
4:44
head
4:45
that's
4:45
made
4:45
by
4:45
a
4:45
few
4:46
different
4:46
companies,
4:46
but
4:47
the
4:47
company
4:47
that
4:47
makes
4:48
the
4:48
best
4:48
one,
4:48
the
4:48
most
4:49
consistent
4:49
is
4:50
Rainey's
4:51
it's
4:51
just
4:52
called
4:52
the
4:52
diver
4:52
head.
4:54
But
4:54
after
4:54
doing,
4:54
you
4:55
know,
4:55
the
4:55
research
4:55
and
4:55
seeing,
4:56
you
4:56
know,
4:57
what
4:57
it
4:57
looks
4:57
like,
4:57
the
4:57
shape
4:58
and
4:58
all
4:58
that
4:58
stuff,
4:59
like
4:59
a
4:59
lot
4:59
of
4:59
things
5:00
in
5:00
fishing,
5:00
both
5:01
fly
5:01
and
5:01
conventional,
5:02
you
5:03
know,
5:03
it
5:03
eventually
5:03
leads
5:04
back
5:04
to
5:04
Larry
5:05
Dahlberg.
5:06
So
5:07
the
5:07
style
5:08
head
5:09
that's
5:09
on
5:09
the
5:09
front
5:10
of
5:10
the
5:10
swing
5:11
and
5:11
D,
5:11
it
5:11
was
5:12
designed
5:12
by
5:12
Larry.
5:14
He
5:14
has
5:14
a
5:14
bunch
5:15
of
5:15
different
5:15
molds
5:15
for
5:16
it,
5:16
makes
5:16
it
5:16
in
5:16
a
5:17
bunch
5:17
of
5:17
different
5:17
shapes,
5:17
pours
5:18
it
5:18
different
5:19
densities
5:20
and
5:20
whatnot.
5:21
So
5:21
the
5:22
fly
5:22
swings
5:22
in
5:23
the
5:23
current,
5:23
kicks
5:24
and
5:24
moves
5:24
and
5:24
dances
5:25
and
5:25
it
5:26
swings.
5:27
So
5:27
the
5:28
swinging
5:28
Dahlberg
5:28
is.
5:29
Where
5:29
the
5:29
D
5:29
in
5:30
Swingin'
5:30
D
5:30
comes
5:30
from
5:31
is
5:31
Dahlberg.
5:32
Got
5:32
it.
5:32
And
5:33
so,
5:33
you
5:33
know,
5:33
as
5:33
you
5:33
were
5:34
kind
5:34
of
5:34
thinking
5:34
about
5:35
designing
5:35
the
5:36
pattern,
5:36
you
5:36
know,
5:36
what
5:36
was
5:37
the
5:37
hole
5:37
in
5:38
your
5:38
fly
5:38
box
5:38
or
5:39
the
5:39
fishing
5:39
problem
5:40
you
5:40
were
5:40
trying
5:40
to
5:40
solve?
5:41
Yeah.
5:42
So,
5:42
you
5:42
know,
5:43
going
5:43
back
5:43
to,
5:44
let's
5:44
say
5:44
the
5:45
early
5:45
to
5:46
mid
5:46
2000s,
5:49
started
5:49
fishing
5:50
intermediate
5:51
lines.
5:51
A
5:51
lot
5:52
more
5:53
companies
5:53
came
5:53
out
5:54
with
5:55
shorter
5:56
bellied,
5:56
more
5:57
aggressive,
5:57
tapered,
5:58
you
5:58
know,
5:59
intermediates
5:59
versus
6:00
your
6:00
old
6:00
school
6:01
still
6:01
water
6:02
intermediate
6:02
tapers
6:03
and
6:04
maybe
6:04
some
6:04
saltwater
6:05
intermediates
6:05
that
6:05
were
6:05
out
6:06
at
6:06
that
6:06
time
6:06
called
6:06
slime
6:07
lines
6:07
is
6:07
what
6:08
they
6:08
referred
6:08
to
6:08
them
6:08
around
6:09
here.
6:10
But
6:10
the
6:10
shorter
6:11
ones
6:11
came
6:12
out.
6:12
You
6:12
know,
6:13
at
6:13
that
6:13
time,
6:13
there
6:14
was
6:14
really
6:14
no
6:15
swim
6:15
flies,
6:16
so
6:16
to
6:16
speak.
6:17
You
6:17
know,
6:17
there
6:17
was.
6:18
We
6:18
threw
6:19
leeches
6:20
and
6:20
we
6:20
threw
6:20
crayfish,
6:21
and
6:21
we
6:22
threw
6:22
poppers
6:23
and
6:23
we
6:23
threw
6:23
frogs.
6:25
And,
6:25
you
6:26
know,
6:26
we
6:26
would
6:26
vary
6:26
the
6:26
weights
6:27
of
6:27
those
6:27
peanuts
6:28
and
6:28
vary
6:28
the
6:28
weights
6:29
of
6:29
the
6:29
craze
6:29
and
6:30
the
6:30
leeches
6:30
and
6:30
whatnot.
6:31
And,
6:31
you
6:31
know,
6:31
you
6:31
had
6:32
kind
6:32
of
6:32
a,
6:33
you
6:34
know,
6:34
jig
6:34
type
6:35
presentation.
6:36
Something
6:36
you
6:36
could
6:36
swing
6:37
at
6:37
different
6:37
depths
6:38
depending
6:38
on
6:39
water
6:39
speed
6:40
level
6:41
at
6:41
the
6:41
time.
6:41
But
6:42
we
6:42
really
6:42
didn't
6:42
have
6:43
flies
6:43
outside
6:43
of
6:44
say,
6:45
you
6:45
know,
6:45
a
6:45
deceiver,
6:46
you
6:46
know,
6:46
that
6:47
kind
6:47
of
6:47
would
6:47
hang.
6:50
So
6:51
having
6:51
said
6:51
that,
6:51
I
6:52
met
6:53
Mark
6:53
Sedotti,
6:55
Sedotti
6:56
Slammer,
6:57
a
6:57
bunch
6:57
of
6:57
different
6:57
flies.
6:58
And
6:58
Sadati
6:58
had
6:59
given
6:59
me
7:00
a
7:00
fly
7:01
that
7:01
he
7:01
called
7:01
the
7:01
kickin
7:02
chicken
7:03
that
7:03
used
7:04
a
7:04
little
7:04
head
7:06
called
7:06
a
7:07
Petitjean
7:07
Magic
7:08
head,
7:08
which
7:09
used
7:09
to
7:09
be
7:09
readily
7:09
available
7:10
in
7:10
hairline
7:11
catalog
7:11
and
7:11
whatnot.
7:12
Nowadays
7:12
you
7:12
gotta
7:13
buy
7:13
em
7:13
directly
7:14
from
7:14
Switzerland.
7:15
But
7:16
anyways,
7:16
that
7:16
kind
7:17
of
7:17
was
7:17
the
7:17
inspiration.
7:18
That
7:18
fly
7:18
was
7:18
the
7:18
first
7:19
fly
7:19
that
7:19
I
7:19
ever
7:19
had
7:19
in
7:20
my
7:20
hands.
7:20
They
7:20
kind
7:20
of
7:21
swam
7:21
side
7:22
to
7:22
side
7:22
and
7:23
it
7:23
would
7:23
dart,
7:23
you
7:24
know,
7:24
think
7:25
of
7:25
it
7:25
as
7:25
a
7:25
deceiver
7:26
with
7:27
a
7:27
keel,
7:28
lead
7:28
keel.
7:29
And
7:29
then
7:29
that.
7:29
That
7:31
magic
7:31
head
7:32
R13
7:32
magic
7:33
head
7:33
on
7:33
it,
7:33
reversed,
7:34
so
7:34
it
7:34
would
7:35
dart
7:35
back
7:35
and
7:35
forth
7:36
side
7:36
to
7:36
side.
7:37
So
7:37
that
7:37
was
7:37
kind
7:37
of
7:38
what
7:38
I
7:38
used
7:38
for
7:38
that
7:38
Mid
7:39
level
7:39
stuff.
7:39
And
7:40
then
7:42
I
7:42
started
7:42
experimenting,
7:43
trying
7:43
to
7:43
make
7:43
it
7:44
larger.
7:44
You
7:44
know,
7:45
at
7:45
that
7:45
time
7:45
I
7:45
would
7:46
say
7:47
guys
7:47
like
7:47
Mike
7:47
Schmidt,
7:48
Eli
7:49
Brandt
7:49
were
7:49
tying
7:50
like
7:50
double
7:50
deceivers.
7:52
You
7:52
know,
7:53
that
7:53
was
7:53
kind
7:53
of
7:53
a
7:53
big
7:53
fly
7:54
of
7:54
that,
7:54
that
7:54
era
7:56
and
7:57
kind
7:57
of
7:58
beyond
7:58
that
7:59
is
7:59
where
7:59
I
7:59
started
8:00
to
8:00
mess
8:00
around
8:00
and
8:00
tinker
8:01
with
8:01
the
8:02
longer
8:02
tails.
8:03
And
8:03
then
8:04
I
8:04
was
8:04
taking
8:05
foam
8:05
and
8:05
I
8:06
was
8:06
cutting
8:07
it
8:07
on
8:07
an
8:07
angle,
8:08
making
8:08
a
8:08
wedge
8:08
out
8:09
of
8:09
it.
8:10
And
8:11
anyways,
8:12
eventually
8:12
I
8:12
settled
8:12
on
8:13
that.
8:14
The
8:14
diver
8:15
head
8:15
by,
8:15
by
8:16
Rainey's,
8:17
which
8:17
is
8:18
what
8:18
Dahlberg
8:19
was
8:19
doing
8:19
a
8:20
long
8:20
time
8:20
ago.
8:21
Little
8:21
different.
8:21
I
8:21
got
8:22
some
8:22
of
8:22
his
8:22
original
8:22
flies.
8:23
But
8:23
you
8:23
know,
8:24
having
8:24
a
8:24
fly
8:24
that
8:25
would
8:25
hang
8:26
and
8:26
when
8:26
you
8:27
stripped
8:27
it,
8:27
you,
8:27
you
8:28
know,
8:28
cracked
8:28
it
8:28
and
8:29
you
8:29
could
8:29
mix
8:30
up
8:30
your
8:30
retrieve
8:31
and
8:31
pause.
8:32
And
8:32
you
8:32
know,
8:33
at
8:33
the
8:33
beginning
8:34
we
8:34
weren't
8:34
putting
8:34
any,
8:35
I
8:35
wasn't
8:35
putting
8:35
any
8:35
weight
8:36
on
8:36
it.
8:36
So
8:36
that
8:36
fly
8:37
would
8:37
dip
8:37
down
8:38
and
8:38
dive
8:38
and
8:38
then
8:38
you'd
8:39
kill
8:39
it.
8:39
And
8:39
on
8:40
that
8:40
intermediate
8:40
line
8:41
it
8:41
would
8:41
have
8:41
kind
8:41
of
8:41
like
8:42
a
8:42
slow
8:42
rise
8:43
up
8:43
and
8:44
it
8:44
was
8:44
very
8:45
effective.
8:45
And
8:45
obviously
8:46
it's
8:46
went
8:46
through
8:47
several
8:47
iterations
8:48
and
8:48
we
8:48
still
8:48
tie
8:48
them
8:49
in
8:49
different
8:49
ways.
8:49
But
8:50
you
8:50
know,
8:51
fishing
8:51
the
8:52
edge
8:52
fishing,
8:53
our
8:53
rivers
8:53
are
8:53
small,
8:54
like
8:54
fishing
8:54
out
8:55
front,
8:56
down
8:56
and
8:56
across.
8:57
We
8:57
preach
8:57
that
8:57
a
8:58
lot.
8:58
45
8:58
degree
8:59
angle.
8:59
And
9:00
with
9:00
that
9:01
head
9:01
design
9:02
and
9:02
the
9:02
proper
9:03
angle
9:03
and
9:03
the
9:03
proper
9:04
rod
9:05
angle
9:06
to
9:06
the
9:06
water
9:06
and
9:07
cracking
9:07
and
9:07
stripping
9:08
of
9:08
that
9:08
fly
9:08
line,
9:09
you
9:10
got
9:10
this
9:10
wild,
9:11
unpredictable,
9:12
yet
9:12
predictable
9:14
action
9:14
to
9:14
the
9:14
fly,
9:15
which
9:15
would
9:16
look
9:16
like
9:16
a
9:16
sluggo
9:17
or
9:17
would
9:17
look
9:18
like
9:18
a
9:18
fluke.
9:20
And
9:20
that's
9:20
kind
9:20
of
9:20
where
9:20
the
9:21
hole
9:21
was,
9:21
was
9:21
you're
9:22
filling
9:22
that
9:22
hole
9:24
of
9:24
a
9:24
fly
9:24
that,
9:25
that
9:25
it
9:25
didn't
9:25
move
9:26
up
9:26
and
9:26
down,
9:26
it
9:26
moved
9:27
side
9:27
to
9:27
side
9:27
and
9:28
up
9:28
and
9:28
down.
9:29
So
9:29
that
9:29
was
9:29
kind
9:29
of
9:29
the,
9:31
the
9:31
idea
9:31
behind
9:31
it
9:32
and
9:32
where
9:32
it
9:32
eventually
9:33
is
9:33
today.
9:33
I
9:34
mean
9:34
it,
9:34
it's,
9:34
it's
9:34
a
9:35
pretty
9:35
unique
9:35
fly
9:36
that
9:36
when
9:36
tied
9:36
properly
9:37
and
9:37
used
9:37
the
9:38
proper
9:38
shape
9:38
head
9:40
and
9:40
get
9:41
some
9:41
pretty
9:41
wicked
9:41
motion
9:42
action
9:42
out
9:42
of
9:42
that
9:42
fly.
9:43
And
9:43
it
9:43
draws.
9:44
Yeah,
9:44
I
9:44
would
9:44
imagine
9:45
too
9:45
with
9:45
the
9:46
foam
9:46
head,
9:46
it
9:46
stays
9:47
out
9:47
of
9:47
the
9:47
timber
9:47
pretty
9:47
well,
9:48
right?
9:48
Yeah,
9:49
it
9:49
depends
9:49
on
9:49
how
9:50
you're,
9:50
you're
9:50
messing
9:50
with
9:51
it.
9:51
So
9:51
it
9:51
just
9:51
depends
9:52
on
9:52
what
9:52
you
9:52
want
9:52
to
9:53
know
9:53
what
9:53
you're
9:53
trying
9:53
to
9:54
achieve.
9:54
So
9:54
there's
9:54
a,
9:55
you
9:55
know,
9:55
we
9:55
always
9:55
talk
9:56
about
9:56
under
9:56
the
9:56
hood.
9:57
Right?
9:57
You
9:57
know,
9:57
like,
9:58
let's
9:58
show
9:58
you
9:58
guys
9:58
what's
9:58
under
9:59
the
9:59
hood.
9:59
You
10:00
know,
10:00
the,
10:01
the
10:01
D,
10:01
the
10:01
Swingin'
10:02
D
10:02
is
10:02
a
10:02
perfect
10:02
example
10:03
of
10:03
a
10:03
fly
10:03
that
10:03
you
10:04
can,
10:04
you
10:04
can
10:04
make
10:05
do
10:05
all
10:05
kinds
10:05
of
10:06
stuff.
10:06
You
10:06
can
10:06
have
10:06
that
10:06
thing
10:07
riding
10:07
right
10:07
up
10:07
in
10:07
the
10:07
top
10:08
three,
10:08
four
10:08
inches
10:09
or
10:09
you
10:10
can,
10:10
you
10:10
know,
10:11
2.0
10:12
it
10:12
out
10:12
and
10:12
lead,
10:13
wrap
10:13
it,
10:13
do
10:14
different
10:14
things
10:14
to
10:15
allow
10:15
that
10:15
fly
10:15
to,
10:16
to
10:16
fish
10:16
at
10:17
depth,
10:19
you
10:19
know,
10:19
especially
10:19
from
10:19
a
10:20
boat.
10:21
Got
10:21
it.
10:21
And
10:22
so,
10:22
you
10:22
know,
10:22
anything
10:22
else
10:23
kind
10:23
of
10:23
on
10:23
the
10:23
bite
10:23
trigger
10:24
side,
10:24
you're
10:24
trying
10:24
to
10:24
kind
10:25
of
10:25
work
10:25
into
10:25
the
10:25
fly.
10:25
Like,
10:26
I
10:26
know,
10:26
I
10:26
think
10:26
you,
10:26
you
10:26
know,
10:27
you
10:27
have
10:27
rattles
10:27
in
10:27
them
10:27
and
10:28
some
10:28
other
10:28
stuff
10:28
too,
10:28
right?
10:29
Yeah,
10:29
the
10:30
rattle
10:30
is
10:30
pretty
10:30
much
10:31
always
10:31
in
10:31
the
10:31
fly.
10:32
You
10:32
know,
10:32
that's
10:32
something
10:32
that
10:32
I
10:32
just,
10:33
I
10:33
put
10:33
in
10:33
there.
10:33
It
10:34
helps,
10:34
you
10:35
know,
10:35
build
10:35
up
10:35
a
10:35
little
10:35
profile
10:36
to
10:36
it.
10:38
The
10:38
little
10:39
bit
10:39
of
10:39
weight
10:39
that
10:39
the
10:39
rattle
10:40
provides
10:41
kind
10:41
of
10:41
balances
10:42
out
10:42
with
10:42
that
10:42
foam
10:43
head.
10:44
If
10:44
you
10:44
don't
10:44
put
10:44
the
10:45
rattle
10:45
in
10:45
it
10:45
and
10:46
you
10:46
just
10:46
put
10:46
the
10:46
foam
10:46
head
10:46
on
10:47
it,
10:47
it's
10:47
gonna
10:48
ride
10:48
pretty
10:49
high.
10:49
And
10:49
you
10:50
know,
10:50
at
10:50
times
10:51
you're
10:51
not
10:51
gonna
10:51
get
10:51
that
10:52
immediate
10:52
penetration
10:53
when
10:53
it
10:53
hits
10:54
the
10:54
water.
10:54
So,
10:55
you
10:55
know,
10:56
I
10:56
think
10:56
that's
10:56
something
10:56
that
10:56
doesn't
10:57
really
10:57
change
10:58
much
10:58
is,
10:59
you
10:59
know,
10:59
your
10:59
basic
11:00
skeleton
11:00
of
11:00
the
11:01
fly
11:01
where,
11:02
you
11:02
know,
11:02
maybe
11:02
you're
11:03
running
11:03
a
11:03
shank
11:03
off
11:03
the
11:04
back
11:04
and
11:04
then
11:04
to
11:04
the
11:05
hook
11:05
and
11:05
then
11:05
two
11:06
shanks
11:06
in
11:06
the
11:06
middle
11:07
and
11:07
then
11:07
do
11:07
another
11:07
hook
11:08
and
11:08
then
11:08
the
11:08
head
11:09
and
11:09
the
11:09
rattle,
11:09
those
11:10
are
11:10
all
11:10
consistent.
11:11
They're
11:11
gonna
11:11
be
11:11
that
11:11
way,
11:12
you
11:12
know,
11:12
unless
11:12
you're
11:13
tying
11:13
a
11:13
single
11:13
hook
11:13
version.
11:14
But,
11:15
you
11:16
know,
11:16
changing
11:16
up
11:16
flash
11:17
colors.
11:19
No
11:19
flash,
11:20
you
11:20
know,
11:21
light
11:21
colored
11:21
flies,
11:22
bright
11:22
flies,
11:23
dark
11:23
flies,
11:24
you
11:24
know,
11:24
it's,
11:25
it's
11:25
just
11:25
like
11:26
anything
11:26
you
11:26
go
11:26
to,
11:27
you
11:27
go
11:27
to
11:27
the
11:27
tackle
11:28
store,
11:28
you
11:28
go
11:28
on
11:28
the
11:28
G
11:28
side
11:29
here
11:29
and
11:29
look
11:29
at
11:29
the
11:29
wall.
11:30
There's,
11:30
you
11:31
know,
11:31
mega
11:32
bass,
11:32
110s
11:33
and
11:34
50
11:34
different
11:34
colors.
11:36
You
11:36
can
11:36
get
11:36
as
11:37
wild
11:37
as
11:37
you
11:37
want
11:37
with
11:37
it.
11:39
But
11:39
yeah,
11:39
flash
11:40
rattle,
11:40
you
11:40
know,
11:41
the,
11:41
the
11:41
fly,
11:41
the
11:41
fly
11:42
just
11:42
draws,
11:42
it
11:42
moves,
11:43
it
11:43
shakes.
11:45
You
11:45
know,
11:45
as
11:45
long
11:46
as
11:46
you're
11:46
fishing
11:46
it
11:46
on
11:46
the
11:46
proper
11:47
angle,
11:48
it's.
11:48
You
11:48
can't
11:49
really
11:49
fish
11:49
it
11:49
wrong.
11:50
Got
11:50
it.
11:51
Which
11:51
I'm
11:51
sure
11:51
helps
11:51
from
11:51
a
11:52
guide
11:52
perspective,
11:52
right?
11:53
100.
11:54
Yeah.
11:54
I
11:54
mean,
11:54
the,
11:54
you
11:55
know,
11:55
the
11:55
whole
11:55
thing
11:55
with
11:55
the
11:55
swim
11:56
flies
11:56
from
11:56
the,
11:56
from
11:57
the
11:57
get
11:57
go
11:57
is
11:57
like
11:58
we're,
11:58
you're
11:59
putting
11:59
in
11:59
the
11:59
work
12:00
at
12:00
the
12:00
vise,
12:01
right?
12:01
So
12:01
you're,
12:02
you're
12:02
tying
12:02
a
12:02
really
12:03
good
12:03
fly,
12:03
that
12:03
swimsuit.
12:05
And
12:05
then
12:05
you're
12:05
just,
12:05
you
12:06
know,
12:06
if
12:06
you're
12:06
guiding,
12:07
you're,
12:07
you're
12:07
playing
12:07
a
12:08
video
12:08
game
12:08
with
12:08
your
12:08
clients,
12:09
you're
12:09
controlling
12:10
the
12:10
way
12:10
that
12:10
they
12:10
strip
12:11
and
12:11
especially
12:12
when
12:12
you
12:12
can
12:13
see
12:13
the
12:13
fly,
12:13
you
12:13
know,
12:14
and
12:14
a
12:14
lot
12:14
of
12:14
the
12:14
flies
12:14
that
12:15
we
12:15
choose
12:15
the
12:15
fish
12:16
just
12:16
because
12:16
the
12:16
arena
12:17
that
12:17
we're
12:17
in.
12:17
We're
12:18
not
12:18
in
12:18
these
12:18
big
12:18
rivers
12:19
where
12:19
you're
12:19
digging,
12:20
have
12:20
the
12:20
dig
12:20
flies
12:21
down
12:21
deep.
12:21
You're
12:22
in
12:22
a.
12:22
In
12:23
a
12:23
fairly
12:23
shallow
12:24
piece
12:24
of
12:24
water
12:24
that
12:25
you're.
12:25
If
12:25
you're
12:26
fishing
12:26
the
12:26
right
12:26
color
12:27
flies
12:27
and
12:27
you're
12:27
paying
12:28
attention,
12:28
you're
12:28
going
12:29
to
12:29
see
12:29
the
12:29
eat
12:30
more
12:30
times
12:31
than
12:31
not.
12:31
So
12:32
a
12:32
lot
12:32
of
12:33
white
12:33
heads,
12:33
a
12:33
lot
12:33
of
12:33
chartreuse
12:34
heads,
12:34
a
12:34
lot
12:34
of
12:35
yellow
12:35
heads.
12:36
You
12:37
know,
12:37
that
12:37
foam
12:37
takes
12:38
a
12:38
marker
12:38
pretty
12:38
nice.
12:38
So
12:39
you
12:39
can,
12:39
you
12:40
know,
12:40
tune
12:40
it
12:41
up
12:41
however
12:41
you
12:41
want,
12:41
but
12:43
they
12:43
eat
12:43
it.
12:45
Yeah.
12:45
And
12:46
so
12:46
if
12:46
we
12:46
jump
12:46
back
12:46
in
12:47
the
12:47
time
12:47
machine,
12:47
I
12:47
guess
12:47
we'll
12:48
call
12:48
it
12:48
Swingin'
12:49
D
12:49
1.0.
12:50
You
12:51
want
12:51
to
12:51
kind
12:51
of
12:51
walk
12:51
people.
12:52
And
12:52
it's
12:52
kind
12:52
of
12:52
funny
12:52
because
12:53
when
12:53
I
12:53
was
12:53
doing
12:53
research
12:53
for
12:53
the
12:54
interview,
12:54
I
12:54
think
12:54
like
12:54
the
12:55
production
12:55
tie
12:55
of
12:56
this,
12:56
I
12:56
guess
12:57
it's
12:57
probably
12:57
what
12:57
Fulling
12:57
Mill
12:57
or
12:58
Orvis
12:58
still
12:58
has
12:59
all
12:59
the
12:59
beads
12:59
and
12:59
the
12:59
wire,
13:00
but
13:00
you
13:00
want
13:00
to
13:00
kind
13:00
of
13:00
walk
13:01
kind
13:01
of
13:01
from
13:01
the
13:02
tail
13:02
of
13:02
the
13:02
fly
13:02
to
13:02
the
13:03
front
13:03
and
13:04
kind
13:04
of
13:04
talk
13:04
about
13:04
the
13:04
design
13:05
and,
13:05
you
13:05
know,
13:06
kind
13:06
of
13:06
how
13:06
it's
13:06
put
13:06
together.
13:06
But
13:07
also
13:07
too,
13:07
I'm
13:07
always
13:07
interested
13:08
to
13:08
hear
13:08
about,
13:09
you
13:09
know,
13:09
materials
13:10
that
13:10
you
13:10
started
13:10
using
13:11
that
13:11
just
13:11
didn't
13:11
make
13:11
that
13:12
initial
13:12
final
13:12
cut
13:13
and
13:13
why
13:13
they
13:13
didn't
13:13
work.
13:14
Yeah,
13:15
I
13:15
mean,
13:15
to
13:15
be
13:15
honest
13:16
with
13:16
you,
13:16
Marvin,
13:16
the
13:16
whole
13:17
deal
13:17
with
13:17
the.
13:18
As
13:18
it,
13:18
you
13:18
know,
13:19
there's
13:19
things
13:19
that
13:19
have
13:20
improved,
13:21
you
13:21
know,
13:21
throughout
13:22
on
13:22
the
13:22
fly,
13:22
obviously,
13:23
but
13:23
like,
13:23
you
13:24
got
13:24
to
13:24
get.
13:24
If
13:24
we're
13:24
going
13:25
time
13:25
machine,
13:25
like
13:26
this
13:26
fly,
13:27
you
13:27
know,
13:28
I
13:28
was
13:28
messing
13:29
around,
13:29
tweaking
13:29
with
13:29
this
13:30
fly
13:30
in,
13:30
you
13:31
know,
13:31
2009,
13:33
2010,
13:34
you
13:35
know,
13:35
so
13:35
it's
13:35
been
13:35
around
13:36
a
13:36
long
13:36
time
13:37
and,
13:38
you
13:38
know,
13:38
going
13:39
back
13:39
that
13:39
far,
13:40
you
13:40
know,
13:40
that's
13:40
before
13:41
Blane
13:41
came
13:42
out
13:42
with
13:42
shanks.
13:43
You
13:43
know,
13:43
when
13:43
it
13:43
came
13:44
to,
13:44
like,
13:44
the
13:44
original
13:45
fish
13:45
skull
13:46
shanks,
13:46
like,
13:46
I
13:47
don't
13:47
think
13:47
those
13:47
came
13:48
out
13:48
until
13:49
10,
13:49
11,
13:51
you
13:51
know,
13:51
so.
13:52
And
13:52
then
13:52
the
13:53
first
13:53
generation
13:53
of
13:54
those,
13:54
those
13:54
shanks
13:55
were
13:55
small,
13:55
or
13:56
they're
13:56
not
13:56
small,
13:56
but
13:57
rather
13:57
large,
13:57
heavier
13:58
gauge.
13:58
I
13:58
think
13:59
there
13:59
was
13:59
like
13:59
a,
14:00
I
14:00
don't
14:00
know,
14:00
a
14:00
20,
14:01
a
14:01
27
14:02
and
14:02
something.
14:03
Something.
14:03
So
14:03
they
14:03
were
14:04
like
14:04
pretty
14:04
large.
14:05
So
14:05
that
14:05
wasn't
14:05
even
14:06
an
14:06
option
14:06
back
14:06
then.
14:08
You
14:08
know,
14:08
we
14:08
were
14:09
borrowing
14:09
a
14:09
lot
14:09
of
14:10
different
14:10
hooks
14:11
at
14:11
the
14:11
time.
14:11
You
14:12
know,
14:12
like
14:12
a
14:12
B10S
14:14
was
14:14
like,
14:14
you
14:15
know,
14:15
cutting
14:15
edge,
14:16
you
14:16
know,
14:16
back
14:16
then.
14:18
So
14:18
that
14:18
was
14:18
the
14:18
rear
14:19
hook
14:19
was
14:19
the
14:19
B10s,
14:20
size
14:20
4.
14:21
You
14:21
know,
14:22
nowadays,
14:22
like,
14:23
I,
14:23
I
14:23
don't
14:23
fish
14:24
that
14:24
hook.
14:24
It's
14:24
like
14:25
you
14:25
spend
14:25
30
14:25
minutes
14:26
dying
14:26
to
14:26
fly,
14:26
and
14:27
one
14:27
log
14:28
jam
14:28
one
14:28
tree,
14:29
and
14:29
that
14:29
hook
14:30
Is,
14:30
you
14:30
know,
14:30
turned
14:31
into
14:31
a
14:31
sewing
14:31
needle.
14:33
And
14:33
then
14:34
we
14:34
use
14:34
the
14:34
wire
14:34
because
14:35
there
14:35
was
14:35
no
14:35
shanks.
14:36
So,
14:36
you
14:36
know,
14:36
your
14:36
typical
14:38
double
14:39
deceiver,
14:40
drunken
14:41
disorderly,
14:43
you
14:43
know,
14:43
beads
14:43
and
14:44
wire.
14:44
Russ
14:44
Maddin
14:45
Beads
14:45
and
14:45
wire.
14:46
Beads
14:46
and
14:46
mono.
14:47
You
14:47
could
14:47
use
14:47
whatever.
14:48
But,
14:48
you
14:48
know,
14:49
that
14:49
was
14:49
the
14:49
transition
14:50
to
14:51
get
14:51
you
14:51
to
14:51
the
14:51
front
14:51
hook.
14:52
The
14:52
front
14:52
hook's
14:52
always
14:53
been
14:53
the
14:53
same.
14:53
I
14:54
haven't
14:54
been
14:54
able
14:54
to
14:55
find
14:56
a
14:56
hook
14:56
that
14:57
performs
14:57
as
14:57
well
14:58
is
14:58
the
14:58
gamakatsu
15:00
worm,
15:01
you
15:01
know,
15:01
and
15:02
I
15:02
use
15:02
that
15:02
in
15:02
a
15:02
2o.
15:05
So
15:05
that,
15:05
that
15:06
hook
15:06
is,
15:06
is
15:06
the,
15:07
is
15:07
the
15:07
hook
15:07
for
15:07
the
15:07
front.
15:08
But
15:08
you
15:08
know,
15:08
going
15:09
back
15:09
to
15:09
the
15:09
materials
15:09
that
15:10
were
15:10
on
15:10
it
15:10
originally,
15:11
same
15:11
old
15:11
deal
15:12
on
15:12
the
15:12
back,
15:12
just
15:12
the
15:13
deceiver
15:13
style
15:14
tail
15:15
coming
15:15
off
15:15
the
15:15
hook.
15:15
There
15:16
was
15:16
no
15:16
shanks,
15:17
so
15:17
just
15:17
straight
15:18
deceiver
15:18
style
15:19
tail.
15:19
Senyo's
15:20
predator
15:21
wrap
15:21
had
15:22
just
15:22
come
15:22
out.
15:23
So
15:23
we
15:23
were
15:23
taking
15:24
that
15:24
and
15:24
putting
15:24
that
15:25
into
15:25
a
15:26
dub
15:26
loop
15:26
or
15:27
twisting
15:27
it
15:27
up
15:27
like
15:28
you're
15:28
twisting
15:28
up
15:28
a,
15:29
a
15:29
brush
15:30
and
15:30
wrapping
15:31
that
15:31
throughout
15:32
the
15:32
body.
15:32
And
15:33
then
15:33
hen
15:34
was
15:34
like,
15:35
you
15:36
know,
15:36
hen
15:36
that
15:36
you
15:36
would
15:36
get
15:37
from
15:37
wopsy,
15:37
you
15:38
know,
15:38
it
15:38
was
15:38
like
15:38
these
15:39
tiny
15:39
little
15:40
probably
15:41
Indian
15:42
hen
15:42
necks,
15:43
you
15:43
know.
15:43
So
15:44
that
15:44
wasn't
15:44
even
15:44
being
15:44
used
15:45
really.
15:46
So
15:46
we
15:46
would
15:47
just
15:47
take
15:48
rabbit
15:49
just
15:49
like
15:49
we
15:49
did
15:49
with
15:49
the
15:50
leeches
15:50
and
15:50
the
15:50
crayfish,
15:51
put
15:51
that
15:51
in
15:51
a
15:51
dub
15:51
and
15:52
loop,
15:52
wrap
15:53
that
15:53
around,
15:54
and
15:54
then
15:54
cap
15:54
it
15:55
with
15:55
some
15:55
mallard
15:55
flank,
15:56
you
15:56
know,
15:56
tip
15:56
back
15:57
to
15:57
the
15:57
zoo
15:57
cougar.
15:59
And
15:59
then
16:00
the
16:01
beads
16:01
the
16:01
wire
16:02
to
16:02
the
16:02
front
16:03
more
16:03
rabbit
16:03
because
16:04
we
16:04
didn't
16:04
really
16:04
have
16:04
good
16:05
hen.
16:06
And
16:06
then
16:06
rattle
16:08
more
16:08
predator
16:09
wrap
16:09
threw
16:10
over
16:10
the,
16:10
over
16:11
the
16:11
bead
16:11
and
16:12
then
16:12
collar
16:13
of
16:14
marabou
16:15
and
16:15
then
16:16
a
16:16
couple
16:16
accent
16:16
feathers.
16:18
And
16:18
then
16:18
to
16:18
keep
16:18
that
16:19
head
16:19
in
16:20
check
16:20
and
16:21
from
16:21
not
16:21
just
16:21
spinning
16:22
around
16:22
the
16:22
hook,
16:23
we
16:23
would
16:23
wrap
16:23
in
16:24
some
16:24
like
16:24
hollow
16:25
wrap
16:25
or
16:25
whatever.
16:26
It
16:26
was
16:26
like
16:26
a
16:26
cascade
16:27
crest
16:28
product.
16:28
Wrap
16:28
that
16:29
in
16:29
for
16:29
a
16:29
throat
16:30
and
16:30
put
16:31
some
16:31
flash
16:31
on
16:31
there
16:31
and
16:33
glue
16:33
that
16:33
head
16:33
on
16:33
and
16:34
done.
16:35
You
16:35
know,
16:35
that
16:35
was,
16:35
that
16:36
was
16:36
the
16:36
original
16:36
fly.
16:38
Problems
16:38
with
16:38
it.
16:39
One,
16:39
that
16:40
rear
16:40
hook
16:40
would
16:40
bend
16:41
out
16:42
to
16:43
the.
16:43
The
16:43
wire
16:44
would
16:44
get
16:44
all
16:44
kinked
16:45
up
16:45
because
16:45
you
16:45
had
16:45
a
16:45
good
16:45
two
16:46
and
16:46
a
16:46
half
16:46
inches
16:47
in
16:47
there.
16:47
And
16:48
that
16:48
would
16:48
throw
16:48
the
16:48
fly
16:49
off
16:50
and
16:51
then,
16:51
yeah,
16:51
they
16:51
would
16:52
just
16:52
get
16:52
all
16:52
chewed
16:52
up,
16:53
you
16:54
know,
16:55
so
16:55
yeah,
16:55
that
16:55
was,
16:56
that
16:56
was
16:56
the
16:56
original.
16:57
That's
16:57
the
16:57
way
16:57
it
16:58
was.
16:59
And
17:00
then
17:00
what's
17:00
the
17:00
next
17:00
thing
17:01
you
17:01
would
17:01
do?
17:01
You
17:01
just
17:01
take
17:02
that
17:02
rear
17:02
hook
17:02
off
17:02
and
17:03
make
17:03
a
17:03
shorter
17:03
one.
17:04
So
17:04
a
17:04
little
17:04
3
17:05
inch
17:05
version,
17:07
which
17:07
was
17:07
the
17:08
single
17:08
one,
17:08
which
17:08
we
17:08
call
17:09
the
17:09
finesse.
17:10
So
17:10
that
17:10
was
17:10
just
17:11
removing
17:11
the
17:11
rear
17:12
hook,
17:12
removing
17:12
the
17:12
wire
17:13
Moving
17:13
the
17:13
beads
17:14
going
17:14
straight
17:14
off
17:15
the
17:15
back
17:15
with
17:16
the
17:17
smallest
17:18
fish
17:18
skull
17:19
shank
17:19
at
17:19
the
17:19
time.
17:20
So
17:20
that
17:20
would
17:21
just
17:21
be
17:21
that
17:21
little
17:21
fish
17:22
skull
17:22
shank
17:22
with
17:23
the
17:23
deceiver
17:24
tail
17:24
off
17:24
it.
17:24
Connect
17:25
that
17:25
with
17:25
some
17:25
wire
17:26
to
17:26
that
17:26
same
17:27
two
17:27
zero
17:28
hook
17:29
and
17:29
you
17:29
got
17:29
your
17:30
little
17:30
mini
17:30
one.
17:32
And
17:32
what
17:32
I
17:32
used
17:32
to
17:33
do
17:33
with
17:33
that
17:33
was
17:33
that
17:34
I
17:34
don't
17:34
know
17:35
if
17:35
Cascade
17:35
Crest
17:36
is
17:36
still
17:36
around.
17:36
It
17:37
seems
17:37
like
17:37
Hairline
17:38
may
17:38
have
17:39
acquired
17:40
or
17:40
is
17:40
distributing
17:41
them.
17:41
But
17:43
Cascade
17:43
Crest
17:44
made
17:45
the
17:45
head
17:45
for
17:46
Orvis
17:46
at
17:47
the
17:47
time
17:47
because
17:48
the
17:48
rainy
17:48
sides
17:49
were
17:49
too
17:49
expensive,
17:49
I
17:50
guess.
17:50
So
17:51
they
17:51
made
17:51
that
17:52
Cascade
17:52
Crest
17:53
head,
17:53
which
17:53
was
17:53
narrower,
17:55
more
17:55
of
17:55
a
17:55
pointy
17:56
nose
17:56
on
17:56
it.
17:58
The
17:58
consistency
17:59
of
17:59
those
17:59
heads
18:00
are
18:01
inferior
18:01
to
18:02
the
18:02
Rainys,
18:03
but
18:03
if
18:03
you
18:03
bought
18:04
enough
18:04
of
18:04
them,
18:04
you
18:04
could
18:04
find
18:05
some
18:05
that
18:05
were
18:05
unique
18:06
and
18:07
would
18:07
give
18:07
you
18:07
a
18:08
different
18:08
action
18:09
than
18:09
say,
18:09
the
18:10
wider,
18:10
broader
18:11
head
18:11
from,
18:12
from
18:12
Rainey.
18:13
So
18:13
that
18:13
was
18:13
kind
18:13
of
18:13
what
18:13
I
18:13
originally
18:14
tied
18:14
that
18:14
finesse
18:15
with,
18:15
was
18:15
that
18:16
single
18:16
with
18:17
the
18:17
kind
18:17
of
18:17
narrow
18:18
and
18:19
how
18:19
I
18:19
described
18:19
it
18:20
to
18:20
people
18:20
back
18:20
in
18:20
the
18:20
day,
18:21
this
18:21
is
18:21
like
18:21
your,
18:22
your
18:22
little
18:22
Creek
18:23
Rapala
18:23
that
18:24
used
18:24
to
18:24
throw
18:24
for,
18:25
for
18:26
trout,
18:26
you
18:26
know,
18:27
a
18:27
little
18:27
floater.
18:27
And
18:28
it
18:28
just
18:28
darted.
18:28
Bang,
18:29
bang,
18:29
bang,
18:29
bang.
18:29
Just
18:30
kind
18:30
of
18:30
walked
18:30
and
18:30
darted
18:32
versus
18:32
the
18:32
big
18:32
swoon
18:33
in
18:33
the,
18:33
in
18:34
the
18:34
kick
18:34
on
18:35
the
18:35
full
18:35
size
18:35
one.
18:37
So
18:37
those
18:37
are
18:37
kind
18:37
of
18:38
the
18:38
two
18:38
originals.
18:38
And
18:39
then
18:39
obviously,
18:40
you
18:41
know,
18:41
we've
18:41
come
18:41
a
18:41
long
18:42
way
18:42
in
18:42
the
18:42
last
18:42
15
18:43
years
18:43
with
18:43
in
18:44
fly
18:44
tying.
18:44
Right.
18:46
You
18:46
know,
18:46
Blane
18:46
bringing
18:47
the,
18:48
the
18:48
game
18:48
changer
18:49
platform
18:49
to
18:49
the
18:50
table
18:50
and,
18:50
you
18:51
know,
18:51
after
18:51
that,
18:51
just
18:52
everything
18:52
changed
18:53
real
18:53
quick.
18:54
Yeah,
18:54
it's
18:55
neat
18:55
too.
18:55
And
18:55
kind
18:55
of
18:55
doing
18:56
research
18:56
for
18:56
the
18:56
interview,
18:56
kind
18:57
of
18:57
some
18:57
things
18:57
I
18:57
saw,
18:57
I
18:58
think
18:58
I
18:58
watched
18:58
your,
18:59
your
18:59
mallard
19:00
flank
19:00
swingin'
19:01
D
19:01
and
19:02
which
19:02
is,
19:02
I
19:02
don't
19:02
know,
19:03
it's.
19:03
It's
19:03
the
19:03
most
19:03
recent
19:04
of
19:04
the
19:04
videos
19:04
because,
19:04
I
19:05
mean,
19:05
like
19:05
you
19:05
said,
19:05
the
19:05
pattern's
19:06
been
19:06
around
19:06
for
19:06
15
19:06
years.
19:07
But,
19:07
you
19:08
know,
19:08
a
19:08
couple
19:08
things
19:08
I
19:09
noticed,
19:10
you
19:11
know,
19:12
a
19:12
lot
19:12
more
19:12
refinement
19:13
with
19:13
the
19:13
knife
19:13
tail.
19:13
And
19:14
I
19:14
don't
19:14
know
19:14
if
19:14
that's
19:14
just
19:14
because,
19:15
you
19:15
know,
19:15
we've
19:15
got
19:15
resin
19:16
and
19:16
it's
19:16
easier
19:16
or
19:17
if
19:17
it
19:17
was
19:17
an
19:17
action
19:17
that
19:18
you
19:18
like
19:18
to
19:18
use
19:18
sometimes.
19:19
Like
19:19
a
19:19
way
19:20
you
19:20
generally
19:20
like
19:20
the
19:21
pattern
19:21
produced.
19:21
And
19:21
then
19:22
kind
19:22
of
19:22
the
19:22
other
19:22
thing
19:23
I
19:23
saw
19:23
too
19:23
was
19:24
keeling,
19:25
which
19:25
I
19:25
know
19:25
you
19:25
can
19:26
always
19:26
do,
19:26
but
19:26
if
19:27
there
19:27
was
19:27
a
19:27
reason
19:28
that
19:28
maybe
19:28
because
19:29
something
19:29
changed
19:30
in
19:30
the
19:30
balance
19:30
of
19:30
the
19:31
fly
19:31
that
19:31
you,
19:31
you
19:31
like
19:32
to
19:32
kill
19:32
it
19:32
more
19:32
with
19:32
the
19:33
flexible
19:33
resin.
19:34
Yeah,
19:35
like
19:36
one
19:36
thing
19:36
too
19:36
is
19:37
like
19:37
with
19:37
the
19:38
change
19:38
in
19:38
the
19:39
season
19:39
here,
19:39
right?
19:40
So
19:40
like
19:40
back
19:41
in
19:41
the
19:41
day
19:41
when
19:41
this
19:42
fly
19:42
was
19:42
first
19:42
out,
19:43
you
19:43
know,
19:43
we
19:43
first
19:44
developed
19:44
it
19:44
and
19:44
started
19:45
fishing
19:46
was
19:47
we
19:47
couldn't
19:47
even
19:47
fish
19:48
until
19:48
the
19:48
last
19:49
Saturday
19:49
in
19:50
May,
19:51
legally
19:52
for
19:52
bass.
19:53
So,
19:53
like,
19:53
by
19:53
the
19:53
time
19:53
you
19:53
get
19:54
to
19:54
that
19:54
time
19:54
of
19:54
the
19:54
year,
19:54
the
19:55
water
19:55
is,
19:55
you
19:55
know,
19:56
went
19:56
from
19:56
in
19:56
some
19:57
situations
19:57
to
19:58
2,
19:59
2500
20:00
cfs
20:01
down
20:01
to
20:01
like,
20:02
you
20:02
know,
20:02
3,
20:03
4,
20:03
500
20:04
cfs.
20:04
So
20:05
like,
20:05
your
20:05
river
20:05
is
20:05
just
20:06
totally
20:06
different,
20:07
so
20:08
we
20:08
didn't
20:08
have
20:08
to
20:08
get
20:09
down.
20:09
You
20:09
know,
20:10
when
20:10
it
20:10
first
20:10
came
20:11
out,
20:11
it
20:11
was
20:11
just
20:11
like
20:11
you're
20:11
fishing
20:12
that
20:13
optimal
20:13
water
20:14
temps,
20:14
you
20:14
know,
20:14
by
20:14
the
20:14
third
20:15
week
20:15
of
20:15
May,
20:15
the
20:16
water
20:16
is
20:16
usually
20:16
60,
20:17
65
20:17
degrees
20:18
in
20:18
some
20:19
situations.
20:19
So,
20:21
you
20:21
know,
20:22
the
20:22
fly
20:22
developed,
20:23
you
20:23
know,
20:23
out
20:23
of
20:23
necessity,
20:24
you
20:24
know,
20:25
to
20:25
like,
20:25
let's
20:25
get
20:25
deeper,
20:26
let's
20:26
fish
20:27
bigger.
20:28
You
20:28
know,
20:28
that
20:29
original
20:29
fly
20:29
is
20:30
only
20:30
four
20:30
and
20:30
a
20:30
half
20:30
inches
20:31
long,
20:31
you
20:31
know,
20:31
or
20:32
like
20:32
the
20:32
standard
20:33
one
20:33
that
20:33
I
20:33
throw
20:33
now,
20:34
you
20:35
know,
20:35
maybe
20:35
it's
20:35
only
20:35
an
20:36
inch
20:36
and
20:36
a
20:36
half
20:36
longer,
20:37
but
20:38
it's
20:38
got
20:38
a
20:38
bigger
20:38
profile,
20:39
it's
20:39
a
20:39
bigger
20:40
offering
20:40
than
20:40
those
20:40
original
20:41
skinny
20:41
ones.
20:43
Yeah.
20:43
Plus,
20:43
I
20:43
guess
20:44
too,
20:44
right.
20:44
I
20:44
mean,
20:44
you,
20:44
you
20:45
know,
20:45
I
20:46
guess
20:46
relatively
20:46
recently
20:47
in
20:47
the
20:47
life
20:47
of
20:47
the
20:47
pattern,
20:48
you
20:48
really
20:48
kind
20:48
of
20:48
cracked
20:49
that
20:49
like,
20:49
low
20:49
30
20:50
degree
20:50
water
20:50
stuff
20:51
too.
20:51
Right.
20:51
So
20:51
that
20:52
was
20:52
a
20:52
whole
20:52
different
20:52
thing,
20:52
right
20:53
on
20:53
the
20:53
water
20:53
level.
20:54
Yeah,
20:55
it
20:55
is.
20:55
I
20:55
mean,
20:55
we
20:55
don't
20:56
really,
20:56
to
20:56
be
20:56
honest
20:56
with
20:57
you,
20:57
like,
20:57
I.45
20:59
is
20:59
kind
20:59
of
21:00
like
21:00
when
21:00
I'll
21:00
start.
21:00
I
21:00
mean,
21:01
if
21:01
I'm
21:01
out
21:01
with,
21:02
you
21:02
know,
21:02
one
21:02
of
21:02
the
21:03
guys
21:03
goofing
21:03
around,
21:04
like,
21:05
I'm
21:05
probably
21:05
not
21:06
going
21:06
to
21:06
be
21:06
leeching.
21:07
I'm
21:07
probably
21:07
going
21:07
to
21:08
try
21:08
to
21:08
push
21:08
it
21:09
and
21:09
tried
21:09
to
21:09
get
21:09
a
21:09
few
21:10
eats
21:10
on
21:10
the
21:10
swim
21:10
fly.
21:11
But
21:11
really,
21:11
like,
21:12
until
21:12
you
21:12
get
21:12
into
21:13
that,
21:13
when
21:14
you
21:14
show
21:14
up
21:14
in
21:14
the
21:15
morning
21:15
and
21:15
it's
21:15
45
21:17
and
21:17
you
21:17
know,
21:17
on
21:18
a
21:18
good
21:18
day,
21:18
you
21:18
might
21:19
hit
21:19
50.
21:20
Like,
21:20
that's
21:20
kind
21:21
of
21:21
the
21:21
optimal
21:21
window
21:22
where
21:22
I'll
21:22
start
21:22
reaching
21:23
for.
21:23
For
21:23
that,
21:24
you
21:24
know,
21:24
the.
21:25
The
21:25
swingin'
21:26
D.
21:28
Can
21:28
you
21:28
catch
21:28
them
21:29
in
21:29
February
21:29
on
21:29
it?
21:30
Sure.
21:30
I've.
21:30
We've
21:31
done
21:31
it.
21:32
Could
21:32
you
21:32
catch
21:33
more
21:33
on
21:33
a
21:33
peanut
21:33
or
21:34
a
21:34
leech
21:34
or
21:34
something
21:35
in
21:35
February?
21:35
Yes.
21:37
But
21:38
yeah,
21:38
you're
21:38
always
21:39
trying
21:39
to
21:39
push
21:39
it
21:41
with
21:41
it.
21:41
But
21:42
I
21:42
mean,
21:42
that
21:42
fly
21:42
really
21:43
starts
21:43
to
21:43
shine,
21:45
you
21:45
know,
21:46
in
21:46
that
21:47
around
21:48
here.
21:49
Last
21:50
week
21:50
of
21:50
middle
21:51
of
21:51
April,
21:52
third
21:52
week
21:52
of
21:53
April,
21:55
you
21:55
know,
21:55
when
21:55
it
21:55
starts
21:56
really
21:56
being
21:56
effective.
21:57
Before
21:57
that,
21:58
I'm
21:58
fishing
21:58
other
21:58
stuff
21:59
for
21:59
the
21:59
most
21:59
part.
22:00
Gotcha.
22:01
Any
22:01
kind
22:02
of,
22:02
you
22:02
know,
22:02
2.0
22:04
and
22:04
on
22:04
variations
22:05
of
22:05
the
22:05
swingin'
22:06
D
22:06
you
22:06
want
22:06
to
22:06
share
22:06
with
22:06
folks.
22:07
Yeah,
22:08
I
22:08
mean,
22:08
that's
22:08
kind
22:08
of.
22:08
If
22:09
I'm
22:09
Going
22:09
to
22:09
sit
22:09
down
22:09
and
22:10
crank
22:10
them
22:10
out.
22:10
That's,
22:11
that's
22:11
going
22:11
to
22:11
be
22:11
how
22:12
I'm
22:12
going
22:12
to
22:12
tie
22:12
them.
22:13
Now.
22:13
I,
22:14
I
22:14
think
22:14
that,
22:15
you
22:15
know,
22:16
like
22:16
we
22:16
were
22:16
just
22:17
talking
22:17
about
22:17
it
22:17
here
22:17
in
22:17
the
22:17
office
22:19
earlier
22:20
today.
22:21
The
22:21
stuff
22:22
that
22:22
I
22:22
guide
22:23
with
22:23
and
22:23
fish
22:24
with,
22:24
you
22:24
know,
22:25
is
22:25
slightly
22:26
different
22:26
than
22:26
the
22:27
stuff
22:27
that
22:27
you
22:27
may,
22:28
you
22:28
know,
22:28
Instagram
22:29
post,
22:30
you
22:30
know,
22:31
or
22:31
you're
22:31
like
22:32
taking
22:32
your
22:32
time.
22:32
You
22:33
know,
22:33
some
22:33
of
22:33
the
22:34
best
22:34
flies
22:35
I,
22:35
I,
22:36
you
22:36
know,
22:36
have
22:36
like
22:38
quiver
22:38
that
22:39
I
22:39
use
22:39
are
22:40
stuff
22:40
that
22:40
I
22:40
tied
22:41
the
22:41
night
22:41
before
22:41
that,
22:41
you
22:42
know,
22:42
are
22:42
super
22:43
glued
22:43
together.
22:44
Not
22:44
really.
22:44
You
22:45
know,
22:45
they
22:45
don't
22:46
take
22:46
the
22:46
time
22:46
to
22:46
build
22:46
them
22:47
perfect.
22:47
They're
22:47
usually
22:47
a
22:48
little
22:48
bit
22:48
narrower,
22:48
a
22:49
little
22:49
sparser.
22:51
But
22:51
you
22:51
know,
22:52
things
22:52
with
22:52
that
22:52
2.0,
22:53
like
22:53
if
22:53
I
22:54
walk
22:54
you
22:54
guys
22:54
through
22:54
that,
22:55
it's
22:55
going
22:55
to
22:55
be,
22:56
you
22:56
know,
22:56
a
22:56
rear
22:57
shank.
22:58
Could
22:58
be,
22:58
you
22:58
know,
22:59
a
22:59
Blane
22:59
shank
22:59
15
23:00
or
23:00
it
23:00
could
23:01
be,
23:01
you
23:01
know,
23:01
a
23:01
spawn
23:02
shank
23:02
somewhere
23:02
in
23:03
the
23:03
11,
23:03
12,
23:04
13
23:04
or
23:05
Dean,
23:05
whatever's
23:06
on
23:06
my
23:06
desk,
23:06
you
23:06
know,
23:07
and
23:07
tie
23:09
a
23:09
little
23:09
piece
23:09
of
23:10
a
23:10
brush
23:10
in
23:11
like
23:11
it
23:11
could
23:12
be
23:12
anything.
23:12
But
23:12
let's
23:13
just
23:13
say
23:13
we
23:13
got
23:13
translucy.
23:15
Tie
23:15
a
23:15
little
23:15
bit
23:15
of
23:15
that
23:16
in,
23:17
cut
23:17
it
23:17
flat
23:18
on
23:18
the
23:18
sides.
23:19
And
23:19
then
23:19
I'm
23:19
going
23:19
to
23:20
take
23:20
my
23:22
Whiting,
23:23
you
23:23
know,
23:23
rooster
23:24
saddle.
23:25
Find
23:25
feathers
23:26
that
23:26
match
23:26
up
23:26
really
23:26
nice.
23:27
And
23:27
if
23:28
they,
23:28
they're
23:28
misbehaving,
23:29
I
23:29
might
23:29
smash
23:30
down
23:30
the,
23:31
the
23:31
stem
23:31
of
23:32
that
23:32
feather
23:32
and
23:32
run
23:33
it,
23:33
you
23:33
know,
23:33
right
23:33
down
23:34
the
23:34
sides.
23:34
Put
23:35
an
23:35
accent
23:35
feather,
23:36
small
23:36
piece
23:36
on
23:36
there.
23:37
So
23:37
I'm
23:37
only
23:37
running
23:37
a
23:37
couple
23:38
feathers
23:38
off
23:38
the
23:38
back.
23:39
I
23:39
think
23:39
people
23:40
make
23:40
a
23:40
mistake
23:40
when
23:41
they
23:41
like
23:41
just
23:41
take
23:42
any
23:42
ratty
23:42
feather
23:43
and
23:43
just
23:44
tie
23:44
it
23:44
off
23:44
the
23:44
back.
23:44
Right?
23:45
Sure
23:45
it'll
23:46
fish.
23:46
I'll
23:46
get
23:46
some
23:46
fish
23:47
on
23:47
it.
23:47
But
23:47
you'll
23:47
get
23:47
a,
23:48
a
23:48
better
23:48
swim
23:49
and
23:49
a
23:49
truer
23:50
swim
23:50
and
23:51
probably
23:51
less
23:51
depending
23:52
on
23:52
what
23:52
tippet
23:53
you're
23:53
fishing.
23:54
Less
23:54
line
23:54
twists
23:55
and
23:55
whatnot.
23:55
If
23:55
you,
23:56
if
23:56
you
23:56
take
23:56
your
23:56
time
23:57
on
23:57
that
23:57
tail.
23:57
So
23:57
I
23:58
usually
23:58
take
23:58
my
23:59
time
23:59
on
23:59
that.
23:59
I'll
24:00
put
24:00
a,
24:01
put
24:01
those
24:01
feathers
24:01
on
24:02
and
24:02
then
24:02
I'll
24:02
put
24:02
a
24:03
little
24:03
thin
24:03
collar,
24:04
maybe
24:04
two
24:04
wraps
24:05
of
24:05
hen.
24:06
Then
24:07
I'll
24:07
connect
24:07
that
24:07
with
24:07
a
24:08
Senyo
24:08
23
24:09
or
24:09
17.
24:10
Whatever
24:10
I
24:10
got
24:11
laying
24:11
around,
24:11
I'll
24:12
cut
24:12
that
24:12
off.
24:13
That's
24:13
what
24:13
I
24:14
use
24:14
for
24:14
connections.
24:15
You
24:15
could
24:15
use
24:15
wire,
24:16
you
24:16
can
24:16
use
24:16
mono.
24:17
But
24:17
it
24:18
all
24:18
works.
24:19
This
24:19
is
24:19
just
24:19
something
24:20
that
24:20
I
24:20
have
24:20
done
24:21
and
24:21
I've
24:21
never
24:21
had
24:21
fail.
24:22
So
24:22
I
24:22
use,
24:22
so
24:23
I
24:23
just
24:23
use
24:23
Senyo's
24:24
little
24:25
trout
24:26
micro
24:27
shanks.
24:28
They
24:28
make
24:29
them
24:29
in
24:29
23
24:29
and
24:29
I
24:30
believe
24:30
17
24:30
millimeter
24:31
cut
24:31
it
24:32
tie
24:32
that
24:32
in
24:33
more
24:33
translucy
24:34
brush,
24:35
usually
24:35
one
24:35
inch.
24:35
Then
24:36
I'm
24:36
going
24:36
to
24:36
trim
24:36
it,
24:37
put
24:37
a
24:37
collar
24:38
of
24:39
hen
24:39
on
24:40
there,
24:40
cap
24:41
it
24:41
with
24:41
a
24:41
mallard
24:41
flank
24:42
feather
24:43
and
24:43
then
24:43
work
24:44
my
24:44
way
24:44
up
24:44
doing
24:44
that
24:45
same
24:45
exact
24:45
thing
24:45
where
24:46
I'm
24:46
going
24:46
translucy.
24:47
Hen
24:48
if
24:48
you
24:48
want
24:48
to
24:48
do
24:48
a
24:48
flank
24:49
back,
24:49
you
24:50
know,
24:50
then
24:50
another
24:50
flank
24:51
back
24:51
and
24:51
I'll
24:51
go
24:54
like
24:54
I
24:54
said,
24:54
shank
24:55
off
24:55
the
24:55
back.
24:56
My
24:56
hook
24:56
for
24:56
the
24:56
rear
24:57
is
24:57
that
24:57
XO
24:59
774
25:00
universal
25:01
curve
25:01
by
25:01
Ahrex.
25:02
I
25:02
really
25:03
like
25:03
that
25:03
hook.
25:03
It's
25:03
black,
25:04
it's
25:05
nickel
25:05
plated.
25:06
It's
25:06
not
25:07
a
25:07
super
25:07
heavy
25:08
wire
25:09
hook,
25:09
but
25:09
it's
25:09
not
25:10
going
25:10
to
25:10
bend
25:10
out
25:10
like
25:10
a
25:11
B10s
25:11
size
25:12
4.
25:12
So
25:12
I'll
25:13
use
25:13
that
25:13
in
25:13
2.
25:13
I'll
25:14
use
25:14
it
25:14
in
25:14
4,
25:14
depending
25:15
on
25:15
what
25:15
size.
25:16
And
25:16
then
25:16
I'm
25:17
going
25:17
to
25:17
go
25:18
probably
25:19
like
25:19
smallest
25:20
A10
25:21
to
25:21
A15.
25:22
You
25:22
can
25:22
mix
25:23
anything
25:23
up
25:23
in
25:23
there.
25:23
If
25:24
you
25:24
want
25:24
to
25:24
use
25:24
other
25:24
shanks,
25:25
you
25:25
could
25:25
use
25:25
11,
25:26
12,
25:26
13,
25:26
14,
25:27
whatever.
25:27
But
25:27
two
25:28
shanks
25:28
there
25:29
you
25:29
will
25:29
get
25:29
a
25:29
different
25:30
swim
25:30
out
25:30
of
25:30
it.
25:30
If
25:30
you
25:31
just
25:31
use
25:31
like
25:31
a
25:31
20
25:32
or
25:32
a
25:32
25
25:33
between
25:33
the
25:34
two
25:34
hooks,
25:34
it
25:35
will
25:35
give
25:35
you
25:35
a
25:35
different
25:35
action.
25:36
So
25:37
play
25:37
with
25:38
it,
25:38
see
25:38
what
25:38
you
25:38
like.
25:39
But
25:39
I
25:39
usually
25:39
go
25:39
two
25:40
shanks
25:40
and
25:41
then
25:41
I'll
25:41
do
25:41
the
25:41
same
25:41
thing.
25:42
Another
25:42
Senyo
25:44
micro
25:44
shank
25:45
connection
25:45
to
25:46
that
25:47
2o
25:49
Gatsu
25:50
worm.
25:51
Why
25:51
do
25:52
I
25:52
use
25:52
that
25:52
hook
25:53
one,
25:53
it's,
25:53
it's
25:54
rarely,
25:54
it's
25:55
never
25:55
failed
25:55
me.
25:57
Sure,
25:57
if
25:57
you
25:57
catch
25:58
50
25:58
smallmouth
25:58
on
25:59
it
25:59
and
25:59
you're
25:59
on
25:59
in
25:59
16
26:00
pound
26:00
or
26:01
15
26:01
and
26:01
you're
26:01
really
26:02
reefing
26:02
on
26:02
them.
26:03
Yeah,
26:03
you'll
26:03
get
26:03
some
26:04
bending
26:04
and
26:04
you'll
26:04
probably
26:05
retire
26:05
a
26:05
fly
26:06
after
26:06
a
26:06
day.
26:06
But
26:07
it's
26:07
a
26:07
really
26:08
good
26:08
hook.
26:08
It's
26:08
got
26:10
fine
26:10
enough
26:10
wire
26:11
where,
26:11
you
26:12
know,
26:12
you
26:12
don't
26:12
have
26:12
to
26:13
totally
26:13
rip
26:13
their
26:14
faces
26:14
off
26:14
if
26:15
you're,
26:15
you
26:15
know,
26:15
guiding
26:16
sports
26:16
that
26:16
aren't
26:16
the
26:17
most
26:17
aggressive
26:18
with
26:18
their
26:18
hooks
26:18
at
26:20
the
26:21
gauge
26:21
of
26:21
the
26:21
hook
26:22
is
26:22
thick
26:23
enough
26:23
to
26:23
where
26:23
you
26:24
don't
26:24
get
26:24
a
26:24
lot
26:24
of
26:24
spinning
26:26
with
26:26
the
26:26
head,
26:27
even
26:27
if
26:27
you
26:27
kind
26:28
of
26:28
slack
26:28
on
26:28
the.
26:28
On
26:29
the
26:29
front
26:29
end
26:29
of
26:29
it.
26:29
But
26:30
I'll
26:30
go
26:30
hen.
26:31
I'll
26:31
go
26:31
rattle.
26:32
I'll
26:33
go
26:33
transluce.
26:34
I
26:34
will
26:34
give
26:34
a
26:35
little
26:35
plug
26:35
for
26:35
Blane.
26:35
Those
26:36
new
26:36
rattle
26:36
boxes
26:36
are
26:37
sick.
26:37
I've
26:38
been
26:38
tying
26:38
with
26:38
those.
26:39
So
26:39
if
26:39
you
26:39
haven't
26:39
played
26:40
with
26:40
those.
26:40
The
26:40
Chocklett
26:41
Factory
26:41
rattle
26:41
boxes,
26:43
awesome.
26:43
Like
26:44
your
26:44
thread
26:44
digs
26:44
into
26:45
them.
26:45
I
26:45
found
26:46
myself
26:47
recently
26:47
tying
26:48
with
26:48
them
26:48
where
26:49
I.
26:49
I
26:49
like
26:49
Veevus
26:50
thread
26:51
like
26:52
140.
26:53
But
26:54
when
26:54
I
26:54
get
26:54
to
26:54
that
26:54
rattle
26:55
box,
26:55
I'LL
26:55
switch
26:56
over
26:56
to
26:56
like
26:56
a
26:59
semper
27:00
flifly,likenanosilk.
27:04
And
27:04
that
27:04
stuff
27:04
just
27:05
digs
27:05
right
27:05
into
27:05
the
27:06
grooves
27:06
on
27:06
those,
27:07
on
27:07
those
27:08
rattle
27:08
boxes.
27:09
But
27:09
you
27:10
gotta
27:10
be
27:10
careful
27:10
with
27:10
those.
27:11
I
27:11
would
27:11
use
27:11
like
27:11
a
27:12
medium
27:13
or
27:13
a
27:13
small
27:14
because
27:14
you
27:14
gotta
27:15
save
27:15
room
27:15
for
27:15
that
27:15
head.
27:17
But
27:17
anyways,
27:18
pen,
27:19
rattle
27:19
box,
27:20
wrapping
27:21
through
27:21
with
27:21
a
27:21
translucent.
27:22
Then
27:23
I'm
27:23
gonna
27:23
collar
27:24
up
27:24
some
27:25
marabou.
27:26
If
27:26
you
27:26
want
27:26
to
27:26
add
27:26
a
27:27
little
27:27
extra
27:27
spice
27:28
in
27:28
there,
27:28
throw
27:29
those
27:29
accent
27:29
feathers
27:30
down
27:30
the
27:30
side.
27:31
And
27:31
then
27:31
if
27:32
you
27:32
want
27:32
to
27:32
add
27:32
a
27:32
little
27:32
more
27:32
spice,
27:33
take
27:33
like
27:33
a
27:34
nature
27:35
spirit,
27:36
steelhead
27:37
pink,
27:37
steelhead
27:38
red,
27:39
UV
27:41
schlappenschlepper,
27:42
andgivethatariptheretogiveyoua
27:44
little
27:44
contrast
27:45
and
27:45
whatnot.
27:47
And
27:49
finish
27:49
it
27:49
off
27:49
with
27:50
you.
27:50
Another
27:51
translucy
27:52
piece
27:53
just
27:53
to
27:53
lock
27:53
in
27:54
that
27:54
head
27:55
when
27:55
you're
27:55
seating
27:56
that
27:56
head.
27:58
If
27:58
you're
27:58
not
27:59
using
27:59
the
27:59
Rainys
28:00
ones
28:00
and
28:00
you're
28:00
using
28:01
the
28:01
ones
28:02
by
28:02
cascade,
28:03
take
28:03
a
28:03
bodkin
28:05
and
28:06
make
28:06
sure
28:07
that
28:08
that
28:08
channel
28:09
is.
28:09
Is
28:10
kind
28:10
of
28:10
reamed
28:11
out
28:12
and
28:12
it's
28:12
straight.
28:13
You'll
28:13
get
28:13
a
28:13
lot
28:13
of
28:14
inconsistencies
28:15
with
28:15
that.
28:15
That
28:15
head
28:16
where
28:17
you
28:17
go
28:17
to
28:17
push
28:17
it
28:18
through,
28:18
and
28:18
you'll
28:18
kind
28:18
of
28:19
blow
28:19
through
28:20
the
28:20
top
28:20
of
28:20
it
28:20
or
28:21
that
28:21
hole.
28:21
The
28:22
channel's
28:22
not
28:22
exactly
28:23
perfect.
28:24
So
28:24
if
28:24
you
28:25
got
28:25
a,
28:25
like
28:25
a
28:25
heavier
28:25
bodkin
28:27
that
28:27
you
28:27
can
28:27
cut
28:28
in
28:28
there
28:28
and
28:28
kind
28:28
of
28:28
ream
28:28
that
28:29
out
28:29
before
28:29
you
28:29
put
28:29
it
28:29
on,
28:30
that's
28:30
a
28:30
little
28:30
tip
28:31
I
28:31
can
28:31
give
28:31
you.
28:32
But
28:33
if
28:33
you
28:33
can
28:34
seek
28:34
out
28:34
the
28:34
Rainy's
28:35
ones,
28:35
which
28:35
I
28:35
highly
28:36
recommend,
28:37
they're
28:37
really
28:37
consistent.
28:39
And
28:40
note,
28:40
guys,
28:41
these
28:41
aren't
28:41
like,
28:42
these
28:42
heads
28:42
aren't
28:43
poured.
28:43
So,
28:44
right,
28:44
this
28:44
isn't
28:44
like
28:45
a
28:45
mold.
28:45
So
28:45
they're
28:45
going
28:46
to
28:46
be.
28:47
It
28:48
looks
28:48
like
28:48
they
28:48
use
28:48
some
28:48
sort
28:49
of
28:49
dremel
28:49
on
28:49
them
28:49
or
28:50
something
28:51
and
28:51
put
28:51
them
28:51
on
28:52
a
28:52
lathe
28:52
or
28:52
whatever
28:53
and
28:53
hand
28:53
shape
28:54
them.
28:54
But
28:55
you're
28:55
going
28:55
to
28:55
see
28:55
inconsistencies
28:57
in
28:57
the
28:57
style,
28:58
the
28:58
shape
28:58
of
28:58
the
28:58
head,
28:59
the
28:59
width,
28:59
the
29:00
size
29:00
of
29:00
the
29:00
collar,
29:01
and
29:01
whatnot
29:02
on
29:02
this
29:02
particular
29:03
head.
29:03
So
29:04
search
29:05
through
29:05
them
29:05
at
29:05
your
29:05
local
29:06
shop
29:07
or
29:08
here
29:08
at
29:08
Schultz
29:09
Outfitters.
29:09
We
29:10
kind
29:10
of
29:10
buy
29:10
them
29:11
in
29:11
bulk
29:11
now,
29:12
and
29:12
if
29:12
they're
29:12
really,
29:13
really
29:13
bad,
29:13
we
29:13
kind
29:13
of
29:14
just
29:14
discard
29:14
them.
29:15
But
29:15
the
29:16
rainy
29:16
ones
29:16
are
29:16
very
29:16
consistent.
29:17
You're
29:17
going
29:17
to
29:17
probably,
29:18
you
29:18
know,
29:18
95
29:20
to
29:20
98%
29:20
of
29:21
the
29:21
packages
29:21
are
29:21
going
29:21
to
29:22
have
29:22
three
29:22
good
29:23
ones
29:23
in
29:23
it.
29:24
But
29:24
make
29:24
sure
29:24
you
29:26
check
29:26
it
29:26
before
29:27
you
29:27
put
29:27
super
29:27
glue
29:28
on.
29:28
That's
29:28
another
29:28
little
29:28
tip.
29:29
Don't
29:30
just
29:30
wrap
29:30
your
29:31
whatever
29:31
brush
29:32
you're
29:32
using
29:32
or
29:33
chenille
29:33
you're
29:33
using
29:33
to
29:34
kind
29:34
of
29:34
absorb
29:34
that
29:34
super
29:35
glue.
29:35
To
29:36
seat
29:36
that
29:37
head,
29:37
make
29:38
sure
29:38
you
29:39
double
29:39
check
29:39
before
29:40
you
29:40
put
29:40
all
29:40
that
29:41
gel
29:41
super
29:41
glue
29:42
on
29:42
that
29:42
material
29:42
and
29:42
then
29:42
just
29:43
jam
29:43
that
29:43
head
29:43
on
29:44
there.
29:44
Because
29:45
if
29:45
you
29:45
can't
29:45
get
29:45
it
29:45
all
29:45
the
29:46
way
29:46
on,
29:46
it's
29:46
not
29:46
going
29:47
to
29:47
swim.
29:47
So
29:49
it's
29:49
got
29:49
to
29:49
be
29:50
lined
29:50
up
29:50
straight
29:51
and.
29:52
And
29:53
you're
29:53
pretty
29:54
much
29:54
done.
29:54
I
29:54
mean
29:54
really
29:55
like
29:55
we
29:55
got
29:55
going
29:55
back
29:56
to
29:56
what
29:56
we
29:56
talked
29:56
about,
29:57
you
29:57
know,
29:58
you're
29:58
putting
29:58
in
29:58
the
29:58
time
29:58
at
29:59
the
29:59
base.
30:00
So
30:01
do
30:01
it
30:01
right
30:01
and
30:03
you
30:03
do
30:03
that
30:03
right
30:03
and
30:04
attach
30:04
this
30:05
bad
30:05
boy
30:05
to
30:05
an
30:05
intermediate
30:06
line
30:06
and
30:07
proper
30:08
leader
30:08
and
30:08
fishing
30:09
at
30:09
the
30:09
right
30:09
angle,
30:10
it's
30:10
going
30:10
to
30:10
be
30:10
some
30:11
of
30:11
the
30:11
most
30:11
consistent
30:12
swimming.
30:12
You're
30:13
going
30:13
to
30:13
get
30:13
out
30:13
of
30:13
a,
30:13
out
30:14
of
30:14
a
30:14
swim
30:14
fly
30:14
due
30:15
to
30:15
that
30:15
head
30:16
driving
30:16
the
30:16
train.
30:17
Yeah.
30:17
Interesting.
30:18
And
30:18
do
30:18
you
30:18
ever
30:19
like,
30:19
you
30:19
know,
30:19
tune
30:20
the,
30:20
the
30:21
head
30:21
kind
30:21
of
30:21
like
30:21
Tommy
30:22
does
30:22
on
30:22
the
30:22
drunks
30:22
to
30:23
get
30:23
different
30:23
swims
30:24
or
30:24
to
30:24
make
30:24
them
30:24
flatter
30:25
or
30:25
steeper
30:26
or
30:26
like
30:27
put
30:27
a
30:27
collar
30:27
behind
30:27
them
30:28
if
30:28
you
30:28
wanted
30:28
them
30:28
to
30:28
dig
30:28
more?
30:29
Anything
30:29
like
30:29
that.
30:31
So
30:31
I'm
30:32
nerdy
30:32
with
30:32
it.
30:32
So
30:33
I'll
30:33
grab
30:33
different
30:33
shapes
30:34
to
30:34
achieve
30:34
different,
30:35
different
30:35
things.
30:37
So
30:38
early
30:38
season,
30:39
like,
30:40
you
30:40
know,
30:40
if
30:40
we're
30:41
going
30:41
to
30:41
be
30:41
pushing
30:41
it
30:41
in
30:42
that
30:42
45°
30:43
to
30:44
40
30:44
to
30:44
45°
30:45
water,
30:46
I
30:46
tend
30:46
to
30:47
try
30:47
to
30:47
tie
30:48
them
30:48
with
30:49
either
30:50
a
30:50
medium
30:51
head
30:52
or
30:52
I'll
30:53
find
30:53
some
30:53
that
30:54
are
30:54
just
30:54
extremely
30:55
wide
30:55
and
30:55
kind
30:56
of
30:56
blunt
30:58
because
30:58
like
30:58
I
30:58
said,
30:58
they're
30:59
not
30:59
going
30:59
to
30:59
be,
30:59
they're
31:00
not
31:00
all
31:00
going
31:00
to
31:00
be
31:00
the
31:00
same.
31:02
But
31:03
you
31:03
know,
31:05
they
31:05
swim
31:06
like
31:06
if
31:06
they're.
31:07
If
31:07
you
31:07
think
31:07
about
31:07
this,
31:08
right,
31:08
if
31:08
it's,
31:08
if
31:09
it's
31:09
really
31:09
narrow
31:10
with
31:10
a
31:10
small
31:10
collar,
31:11
it's
31:11
not
31:12
going
31:12
to
31:12
have
31:12
as
31:12
much
31:13
side
31:13
to
31:13
side
31:14
darting
31:15
to
31:15
it
31:15
as
31:15
if
31:15
it
31:15
was
31:16
slightly
31:16
wider
31:16
with
31:17
a
31:17
big
31:17
collar.
31:19
And
31:20
then
31:20
also
31:20
feel
31:20
like
31:21
when
31:21
you,
31:21
when
31:21
you
31:21
buy
31:21
these
31:22
things,
31:22
you
31:22
can
31:22
look
31:22
at
31:23
the
31:23
back
31:23
of
31:23
them
31:24
and
31:26
it
31:26
doesn't
31:26
happen
31:26
often,
31:27
but
31:27
sometimes
31:27
they're
31:28
really
31:28
thin
31:29
and
31:29
you
31:30
could
31:30
just
31:30
take
31:30
your
31:30
finger
31:30
and
31:31
just
31:31
kind
31:31
of
31:31
smash
31:31
them
31:32
down,
31:32
right?
31:32
Or
31:33
just
31:33
like
31:33
there's
31:34
not
31:34
much
31:34
foam
31:34
there
31:34
on
31:35
the
31:35
collar.
31:35
That
31:36
one's
31:36
not
31:36
going
31:36
to
31:36
behave
31:37
as
31:37
well
31:37
as
31:38
one
31:38
that's
31:38
fairly
31:39
stiff
31:39
and
31:40
it's
31:40
got
31:40
a
31:40
little
31:40
more
31:40
foam
31:41
to
31:42
it.
31:42
But
31:43
the
31:43
shape
31:44
of
31:44
the
31:44
head
31:44
drives
31:44
a
31:45
train.
31:45
So
31:45
if
31:45
you
31:45
got
31:45
narrow
31:46
ones,
31:46
they're
31:46
going
31:46
to
31:47
swim
31:47
tighter
31:48
and
31:48
if
31:48
they're
31:49
wider
31:49
and
31:49
they
31:50
have
31:50
more
31:50
foam,
31:50
they're
31:51
going
31:51
to
31:51
go
31:51
side
31:51
to
31:51
side
31:52
more.
31:53
So,
31:54
you
31:54
know,
31:55
I
31:55
think
31:55
that
31:55
the
31:55
colder
31:56
water
31:56
kind
31:57
of
31:57
like
31:57
goes
31:57
back
31:57
to
31:58
the
31:58
old
31:58
crankbait
31:59
guys
31:59
talking
31:59
about
32:00
cranking
32:01
for
32:01
bass.
32:02
Like,
32:02
you
32:02
want
32:02
that
32:03
wide
32:03
wobble
32:04
in
32:04
that.
32:04
In
32:04
that
32:05
cold
32:05
water,
32:05
and
32:05
you
32:06
want
32:06
that
32:06
tighter
32:06
wobble
32:07
in
32:07
the
32:07
warmer
32:07
water.
32:09
So
32:10
that's
32:10
kind
32:10
of.
32:10
I've
32:11
kind
32:11
of
32:11
seen
32:11
enough
32:12
on
32:12
the
32:12
water
32:12
to
32:13
know
32:13
kind
32:13
of
32:14
what
32:14
I
32:14
want.
32:15
And
32:15
then
32:15
the
32:16
earlier
32:16
in
32:16
the
32:16
season
32:16
when
32:17
it's
32:17
cold,
32:17
man,
32:17
you
32:17
don't
32:18
need
32:18
to
32:18
take
32:18
the
32:18
fly
32:19
away
32:19
from
32:19
them.
32:20
What's
32:21
really
32:21
cool
32:21
about
32:21
this
32:21
fly
32:22
is
32:22
it
32:22
will
32:23
swim
32:23
and
32:24
kind
32:24
of
32:24
stay
32:24
in
32:25
a
32:25
zone
32:25
if
32:25
you
32:26
allow
32:26
it
32:26
to
32:27
where
32:27
you
32:27
can
32:27
just
32:28
kind
32:28
of
32:28
crack
32:28
it
32:28
around.
32:29
And
32:29
if
32:30
you're
32:30
fishing
32:31
it
32:31
at
32:31
the
32:31
proper
32:31
angle
32:32
With
32:32
a
32:33
little
32:33
bit
32:33
of
32:33
push,
32:33
A
32:34
little
32:34
bit
32:34
of
32:34
current
32:34
on
32:34
it,
32:35
then.
32:36
Yeah.
32:36
And
32:36
it's
32:37
almost
32:37
like
32:37
you
32:37
can
32:37
just
32:37
dance
32:38
it
32:38
in
32:38
front
32:38
of
32:38
log
32:38
jams
32:39
in
32:39
front
32:39
of
32:39
structure.
32:40
And
32:40
eventually
32:40
they'll.
32:41
They'll
32:42
attack
32:42
it,
32:42
you
32:42
know,
32:43
because
32:43
they
32:43
get
32:43
sick
32:43
of
32:43
looking
32:44
at
32:44
it,
32:45
you
32:45
know?
32:46
And.
32:46
Yeah,
32:46
I
32:46
also
32:46
would
32:47
put
32:47
a
32:47
plug
32:47
in
32:47
for
32:47
the
32:47
rattle
32:48
boxes
32:48
from
32:48
Blane.
32:49
But,
32:49
you
32:49
know,
32:49
that's
32:49
one
32:49
of
32:50
the.
32:50
If
32:50
you
32:50
have,
32:50
like,
32:51
the.
32:51
I
32:51
guess
32:51
the
32:52
pill
32:52
rattles,
32:54
that's
32:54
a
32:54
place
32:54
almost
32:54
like
32:55
tying
32:55
in,
32:55
like,
32:55
lead
32:56
eyes
32:56
that
32:56
people
32:56
get
32:56
screwed
32:57
up.
32:57
You
32:57
have
32:57
any
32:58
tips
32:58
for
32:58
folks
32:58
to,
32:59
you
32:59
know,
33:00
get
33:00
those
33:00
things
33:00
locked
33:01
down
33:01
so
33:01
they
33:01
don't
33:01
roll
33:01
on
33:02
the
33:02
hook?
33:02
Yeah,
33:03
if
33:03
you're.
33:04
If
33:04
you
33:05
are
33:05
tying
33:05
with,
33:05
you
33:06
know,
33:06
like
33:06
an
33:06
old
33:06
school,
33:07
you
33:07
know,
33:07
5
33:08
millimeter
33:08
single
33:09
bead
33:10
glass,
33:11
or
33:11
there's
33:12
another
33:12
cool
33:13
one
33:13
out
33:14
there
33:14
if
33:14
you
33:14
don't
33:14
want
33:15
the
33:15
bulk
33:16
of
33:16
the
33:16
rattle
33:16
box,
33:18
you
33:18
know
33:18
that
33:18
it
33:18
gives
33:18
you
33:19
a
33:19
little
33:19
more
33:19
shoulder
33:19
to
33:19
your
33:20
fly
33:20
if
33:20
you
33:20
want,
33:20
or
33:21
you
33:21
can't
33:21
get
33:21
them
33:21
for
33:21
some
33:22
reason.
33:22
There's
33:23
another
33:23
company
33:23
out
33:24
there
33:24
that
33:24
we.
33:24
We
33:24
sell
33:25
on
33:25
the
33:25
conventional
33:26
tackle
33:26
side
33:26
called
33:27
zapu,
33:28
and
33:28
they
33:28
make
33:28
a
33:29
plastic
33:29
rattle.
33:31
Not
33:31
the
33:31
one
33:31
with
33:32
the
33:32
little
33:32
nipple
33:33
on
33:33
it
33:33
where
33:33
you
33:33
attach
33:34
it
33:34
to
33:34
a,
33:35
you
33:35
know,
33:35
rubber,
33:36
like
33:36
on
33:36
a
33:36
jig.
33:37
But
33:39
they're
33:39
pointed.
33:39
They're
33:40
meant
33:40
to
33:40
be
33:40
able
33:41
to
33:41
just
33:41
jam
33:41
them
33:42
into
33:42
soft
33:42
plastics.
33:43
But
33:44
nothing
33:44
worse
33:45
than
33:45
cracking
33:46
that
33:46
fly
33:46
off.
33:46
You
33:47
know,
33:47
tie
33:47
a
33:47
2.0
33:48
and
33:48
get.
33:49
You're
33:49
all
33:49
proud
33:49
of
33:49
it.
33:50
It
33:50
looks
33:50
great
33:50
and
33:50
it's
33:51
fishing
33:51
great.
33:51
And
33:52
then
33:52
you
33:53
crack
33:53
it
33:53
off
33:53
a
33:53
rock
33:54
or
33:54
a
33:54
piece
33:54
of
33:54
rip
33:54
rap
33:55
or
33:55
a
33:55
bridge
33:55
or
33:56
even
33:56
a
33:56
piece
33:56
of
33:56
wood.
33:57
And
33:57
then
33:57
you
33:57
just
33:57
rattle.
33:58
Bash
33:58
the
33:58
rattle
33:58
on
33:59
your
33:59
glass
33:59
rattle
34:00
bus.
34:01
So
34:01
I
34:01
personally
34:01
haven't
34:02
used
34:02
glass
34:02
rattles
34:02
in
34:03
probably
34:03
about
34:03
five
34:03
years.
34:04
So
34:05
before
34:05
the
34:05
Blane
34:06
rattle
34:06
boxes
34:06
came
34:06
along,
34:07
I
34:07
just
34:07
bought
34:08
a
34:08
bunch
34:08
of
34:09
those
34:09
zappus
34:10
and
34:10
used
34:10
plastic.
34:11
But
34:12
going
34:12
back
34:12
to
34:12
your
34:12
original
34:12
question,
34:13
if
34:13
you.
34:13
If
34:14
you
34:14
tie
34:14
it,
34:14
the
34:14
way
34:15
that
34:15
I
34:17
was
34:18
talking
34:18
about
34:18
using
34:19
Sanyo's
34:20
micro
34:20
shank.
34:21
So
34:21
if
34:21
you.
34:21
Especially
34:22
if
34:22
you're
34:22
tying
34:22
like
34:22
the.
34:23
With
34:23
the
34:23
23
34:24
millimeter
34:25
version
34:25
that's
34:26
going
34:26
to
34:26
run
34:26
parallel
34:27
to
34:27
your.
34:28
To
34:28
your
34:29
hook
34:29
shank,
34:31
that
34:31
rattle
34:31
will.
34:32
Those
34:32
glass
34:32
rattles
34:33
of
34:33
those
34:33
plastics
34:33
will
34:34
kind
34:34
of
34:34
just
34:34
fit
34:34
perfectly
34:35
in
34:35
that
34:35
little
34:36
groove
34:37
that
34:37
you're
34:37
creating
34:38
with
34:38
the
34:38
two
34:38
shanks.
34:39
The
34:39
shank
34:40
and
34:40
the.
34:40
Of
34:41
the
34:41
hook
34:41
and
34:41
the
34:41
shank
34:42
of
34:42
the
34:42
shank
34:43
run
34:43
in
34:43
parallel.
34:44
You
34:44
can
34:44
just
34:44
kind
34:44
of
34:44
set
34:44
it
34:45
in
34:45
there.
34:46
But
34:46
usually
34:47
I'll
34:47
in
34:47
on
34:47
a
34:47
thread
34:48
base.
34:48
I
34:48
like
34:48
a
34:49
thread
34:49
that.
34:50
That,
34:51
you
34:51
know,
34:51
not
34:52
a
34:52
nano
34:52
silk
34:53
to
34:53
tie
34:53
in
34:54
glass
34:54
or
34:54
a
34:55
gel
34:55
spun
34:55
to
34:55
tie
34:55
in
34:56
glass.
34:56
You
34:56
want
34:56
something
34:56
that
34:57
will
34:57
stretch.
34:58
So
34:58
I'm
34:59
a
34:59
big
34:59
fan
34:59
of
34:59
the
34:59
Veevus
35:00
140.
35:01
And
35:01
when
35:01
I'm
35:02
tying
35:02
in
35:02
my
35:02
rattles,
35:03
I.
35:03
Whether
35:03
they're
35:04
plastic
35:04
or
35:04
glass,
35:06
I
35:06
use
35:07
that
35:07
where
35:07
I
35:07
can.
35:08
You
35:08
know,
35:08
just
35:08
like
35:08
your
35:08
tying
35:08
with
35:09
deer
35:09
hair,
35:09
you
35:10
know,
35:10
you
35:10
kind
35:10
of
35:10
put
35:10
the
35:10
tension
35:11
on
35:11
it
35:11
coming
35:11
up.
35:11
You
35:12
put
35:12
the
35:12
tension
35:12
on
35:12
it
35:12
going
35:13
down.
35:13
That
35:14
thread's
35:14
gonna
35:15
get
35:15
a
35:15
stretch
35:15
and
35:16
kind
35:16
of
35:17
chokehold
35:17
on
35:18
that
35:18
on
35:18
that
35:18
rattle.
35:19
And
35:19
then
35:19
I
35:19
slather
35:20
it
35:20
with
35:21
Wapsi
35:22
gel
35:22
brushable.
35:23
And
35:23
I
35:23
gel
35:24
but
35:24
wopsy
35:25
brushable
35:25
super
35:25
glue
35:26
like
35:26
that
35:26
just.
35:26
It's
35:27
on
35:27
my
35:27
desk.
35:28
Do
35:28
that.
35:28
And
35:29
by
35:29
then
35:29
I'm
35:30
tying
35:30
in
35:30
my
35:30
translucy.
35:31
While
35:31
that's
35:31
still
35:32
tacky,
35:33
I'm
35:33
wrapping
35:33
that
35:33
translucy
35:34
or
35:35
whatever
35:36
thin
35:36
brush
35:36
you
35:37
know
35:37
you
35:37
want
35:37
to
35:37
use,
35:38
whether
35:38
it
35:38
be
35:38
the
35:38
translucy
35:39
or
35:40
Blane's
35:41
cactus
35:41
tackle
35:42
or
35:42
whatever
35:42
the
35:42
heck
35:42
they
35:42
call
35:43
that
35:43
stuff
35:43
now.
35:43
And
35:44
you
35:44
just
35:44
wrap
35:44
that
35:44
through
35:45
and
35:45
now
35:45
you
35:45
got
35:45
that
35:45
glue
35:46
that
35:46
just
35:46
kind
35:46
of
35:46
holds
35:47
that
35:48
and
35:48
you're
35:48
making
35:49
an
35:49
indestructible
35:50
fly
35:50
as
35:50
you
35:51
move
35:51
forward.
35:52
Yeah.
35:52
And
35:52
I
35:52
guess
35:53
if
35:53
folks
35:53
don't
35:53
have
35:53
the
35:54
wopsy
35:54
glue,
35:54
do
35:54
they
35:55
have
35:55
to
35:55
worry
35:55
about
35:55
any
35:55
of
35:56
these,
35:57
I
35:57
guess
35:57
non
35:57
resins
35:58
melting
35:58
a
35:58
plastic
35:59
rattle?
36:00
I've
36:00
not
36:00
had
36:01
that
36:01
problem.
36:02
So.
36:03
Yeah,
36:03
I
36:03
mean
36:04
we
36:04
literally
36:04
sell
36:04
hundreds
36:05
of
36:05
bottles
36:05
of
36:06
that
36:06
stuff.
36:06
It's
36:06
just.
36:07
I
36:07
think
36:07
it's.
36:08
It's
36:08
just
36:08
Wapsi
36:09
brushable
36:10
super
36:11
glue.
36:11
I
36:11
mean,
36:11
it's
36:11
on
36:11
our
36:12
website.
36:12
You
36:12
can
36:12
get
36:13
it.
36:14
It's
36:14
one
36:14
of
36:14
those
36:14
things
36:15
that
36:15
once
36:15
you
36:15
buy
36:15
it,
36:16
it
36:16
just
36:16
becomes
36:16
part
36:16
of
36:17
your,
36:18
you
36:19
know,
36:19
your
36:19
tying
36:19
kit.
36:20
And
36:20
you'll.
36:20
You'll
36:20
never
36:21
tie
36:21
without
36:21
it
36:21
if
36:21
you're
36:22
a
36:22
streamer
36:22
tier.
36:23
And
36:23
Jesse
36:24
showed
36:24
me
36:24
a
36:24
little
36:24
cool
36:24
trick
36:25
that
36:25
he
36:25
was
36:26
doing
36:26
with
36:26
his.
36:26
Is
36:27
the
36:27
one
36:27
thing
36:28
that
36:28
happens
36:29
with
36:29
that,
36:30
you
36:30
know,
36:30
like
36:30
all
36:30
super
36:30
glue.
36:31
Right.
36:31
You
36:31
just.
36:32
It.
36:32
If
36:33
it
36:33
leaks
36:33
Then
36:34
it
36:34
super
36:34
glues,
36:35
you
36:35
know,
36:35
the
36:36
cap
36:36
shut.
36:37
But
36:37
what
36:37
he's
36:37
been
36:37
doing
36:38
is
36:38
take
36:38
a
36:38
little
36:38
bit
36:38
of
36:39
wax
36:39
and
36:40
put
36:40
the
36:40
wax
36:40
around
36:41
the
36:41
threads
36:42
on
36:43
the,
36:43
on
36:43
the
36:43
super
36:43
glue.
36:44
And
36:44
that
36:44
is
36:44
keeping,
36:45
you
36:45
know,
36:45
keeping
36:46
his
36:46
super
36:46
glue
36:47
from
36:48
super
36:48
gluing
36:48
itself
36:49
together.
36:50
Yeah,
36:50
that's
36:51
super
36:51
frustrating.
36:51
And
36:52
you
36:52
get
36:52
the
36:52
pliers
36:52
out
36:52
and
36:52
you
36:53
break
36:53
the
36:53
bottle
36:53
in
36:53
half,
36:54
and
36:54
then
36:54
you
36:54
have
36:54
a
36:54
hell
36:54
of
36:54
a
36:54
mess.
36:56
Yeah,
36:56
yeah,
36:56
for
36:56
sure.
36:57
Yeah.
36:57
And
36:57
then
36:57
we
36:57
did
36:57
talk
36:58
a
36:58
little
36:58
bit
36:58
about
36:58
keels,
36:59
but
36:59
I
36:59
mean,
36:59
the
36:59
keels
37:00
are,
37:00
you
37:00
know,
37:01
when
37:01
it
37:01
comes
37:01
to
37:01
keeling
37:02
this
37:02
fly,
37:02
it's
37:03
like,
37:04
what
37:04
do
37:04
you
37:04
want
37:04
it
37:04
to
37:05
do?
37:05
Right?
37:05
Like,
37:05
more
37:06
times
37:06
than
37:06
not,
37:07
I
37:07
want
37:07
to
37:07
have
37:07
immediate,
37:08
you
37:08
know,
37:09
penetration.
37:09
When
37:09
I
37:10
hit
37:10
that,
37:10
that
37:10
fly
37:11
hits
37:11
the
37:11
water.
37:11
I
37:12
don't
37:12
want
37:12
it
37:12
to
37:12
wallow
37:13
up
37:13
on
37:13
the
37:13
surface.
37:14
I
37:14
want
37:14
it
37:14
to
37:14
get
37:14
below
37:15
the
37:15
surface,
37:17
you
37:17
know,
37:18
so
37:18
we
37:18
just
37:18
wrap,
37:18
you
37:18
know,
37:19
020-02-5030,
37:21
depending
37:21
on
37:21
what
37:21
we're
37:22
doing.
37:22
That's
37:22
something
37:22
to
37:22
just
37:23
lives
37:23
in
37:23
the
37:24
boat
37:24
with
37:24
me,
37:25
you
37:26
know,
37:26
and
37:26
I'm
37:26
making
37:27
on
37:27
stream
37:27
adjustments.
37:28
But
37:28
if
37:28
you're
37:28
tying
37:29
at
37:29
home
37:29
and
37:29
you
37:29
don't,
37:30
you're
37:30
not
37:30
going
37:30
to
37:30
be
37:30
in
37:30
a
37:31
boat,
37:31
it's
37:31
going
37:31
to
37:31
be
37:31
a
37:31
pain
37:32
in
37:32
the
37:32
butt.
37:33
I
37:33
would
37:33
just
37:34
start
37:34
off
37:34
with
37:34
025
37:35
and
37:35
put
37:36
10
37:36
wraps
37:36
on
37:37
that
37:37
2o
37:38
worm
37:38
hook
37:39
up
37:39
front.
37:40
And
37:40
you
37:41
can
37:41
either
37:41
use
37:42
a
37:42
flexible
37:42
resin,
37:43
which
37:44
is
37:44
what
37:44
I
37:44
usually
37:45
use
37:45
if
37:45
I'm
37:45
doing
37:45
it
37:45
at
37:46
the
37:46
bike.
37:46
So
37:47
wrap
37:47
my
37:48
025
37:49
or
37:49
020
37:50
or
37:50
030
37:51
on
37:51
that
37:51
bend
37:52
and
37:52
then
37:52
I'll
37:53
take
37:53
that
37:53
rain
37:54
zap
37:54
or
37:54
solar
37:55
res
37:55
flexible
37:56
resin,
37:57
and
37:57
I
37:57
will
37:58
lather
37:59
it
37:59
up
37:59
on
37:59
there
37:59
and
38:00
hit
38:00
it
38:00
with
38:00
the
38:01
light.
38:01
And,
38:02
you
38:02
know,
38:02
say
38:03
you're
38:03
on
38:03
the
38:03
river
38:03
and
38:04
you
38:04
want
38:04
to
38:04
get
38:04
rid
38:04
of
38:04
half
38:05
of
38:05
it.
38:05
Grab
38:06
your
38:06
needle
38:06
nose
38:06
or
38:07
grab
38:07
your
38:07
nippers
38:08
or
38:08
whatever
38:08
you
38:08
got
38:09
that.
38:09
You
38:09
can
38:09
get
38:09
in
38:09
there
38:09
and
38:09
kind
38:10
of
38:10
break,
38:11
break
38:11
away
38:11
that
38:12
flexible
38:12
resin
38:13
and
38:13
then
38:13
just
38:14
take
38:14
away
38:15
what
38:15
you
38:15
don't
38:15
want
38:17
if
38:17
you're
38:17
committing
38:18
to
38:18
it.
38:18
And
38:18
like,
38:19
this
38:19
is
38:19
how
38:19
I'm
38:20
going
38:20
to
38:20
fish.
38:20
And
38:20
I
38:20
know
38:21
because,
38:22
you
38:22
know,
38:22
I
38:22
fish
38:22
this
38:22
piece
38:23
of
38:23
water
38:23
all
38:23
the
38:23
time.
38:23
And
38:24
tomorrow
38:24
it's
38:24
running
38:25
at
38:25
2000
38:25
CFS.
38:26
And
38:26
I
38:27
know
38:27
that
38:27
I
38:28
need
38:28
a,
38:29
you
38:29
know,
38:30
a
38:30
certain
38:31
amount
38:32
of
38:32
weight
38:32
on
38:32
it.
38:33
There's
38:34
another
38:34
product
38:34
that
38:35
we
38:35
use
38:35
quite
38:35
a
38:35
bit
38:36
from
38:36
Hareline,
38:37
distributes
38:38
it.
38:38
It's
38:38
just
38:38
the
38:39
rib
38:39
tungsten
38:40
scud
38:40
and
38:40
shrimp
38:40
bodies.
38:41
So
38:42
they
38:42
make
38:42
those
38:42
in
38:42
small,
38:43
medium
38:43
and
38:43
large.
38:44
They're
38:44
all
38:45
made
38:45
of
38:45
tungsten.
38:46
So
38:47
A
38:47
lot
38:48
know
38:48
a
38:48
little
38:48
goes
38:48
a
38:48
long
38:49
ways.
38:49
Usually
38:49
on
38:51
those,
38:52
the
38:52
swinging
38:52
D,
38:53
I'm
38:53
only
38:53
using
38:53
the
38:54
smalls
38:54
or
38:55
maybe
38:55
the
38:55
mediums.
38:56
In
38:56
our
38:57
rivers,
38:57
the
38:57
large
38:57
will
38:58
be
38:58
a
38:58
little
38:58
too
38:58
much.
38:59
But
38:59
having
39:00
said
39:00
that,
39:00
that's
39:01
like
39:01
if
39:01
I'm
39:01
using
39:01
a
39:01
craft
39:02
for
39:02
changer
39:03
or
39:04
a
39:04
flutter
39:05
craft
39:05
or
39:07
you
39:08
know,
39:08
big
39:09
feather
39:09
changers
39:10
with
39:10
brush
39:10
heads
39:10
where
39:11
I'm
39:11
trying
39:11
to
39:11
have
39:11
that
39:12
same
39:12
kind
39:12
of
39:13
balancing
39:13
act
39:13
going
39:13
where
39:14
I'm
39:14
suspending
39:14
these
39:15
flies.
39:15
I'll
39:15
use
39:16
up
39:16
to
39:16
a
39:16
size
39:16
large
39:17
of
39:17
those
39:17
tungsten
39:18
scud
39:18
shrimp
39:19
bodies
39:20
on
39:20
the
39:20
front
39:21
hook
39:21
to
39:21
get
39:21
me
39:22
down.
39:22
So,
39:23
you
39:24
know,
39:24
that's
39:24
the,
39:25
the
39:25
game
39:25
you
39:25
can
39:26
play
39:26
with
39:26
these.
39:26
You're
39:26
playing
39:26
a
39:27
balancing
39:27
act
39:27
between
39:28
the
39:29
foam
39:30
and
39:30
the
39:30
overall
39:31
weight
39:31
of
39:31
the
39:31
fly
39:31
to
39:32
achieve
39:32
the
39:32
depth
39:32
that
39:33
you
39:33
want
39:33
where
39:33
it
39:33
just
39:34
hangs.
39:36
And
39:36
yeah,
39:37
that's,
39:37
that's
39:38
the
39:38
game,
39:38
man.
39:39
Very
39:39
neat.
39:40
And
39:40
so,
39:40
you
39:40
know,
39:40
as
39:41
we
39:41
kind
39:41
of
39:41
shift
39:41
to
39:41
presentation
39:42
and
39:42
you
39:43
know,
39:43
you're
39:43
fishing
39:43
this
39:43
kind
39:44
of
39:44
in
39:44
the
39:44
upper
39:44
part
39:44
of
39:45
the
39:45
column
39:45
with
39:45
some
39:45
variations.
39:46
You
39:46
want
39:46
to
39:46
kind
39:46
of
39:46
talk
39:48
your
39:48
preferred
39:48
kind
39:49
of
39:49
rod
39:49
line
39:49
and
39:50
leader
39:50
setups
39:51
and
39:51
kind
39:51
of
39:51
where
39:51
in
39:51
the
39:52
upper
39:52
part
39:52
of
39:52
the
39:52
column
39:53
you
39:53
use
39:53
those
39:53
to
39:53
fish
39:54
the
39:54
D.
39:55
Yeah,
39:55
well.
39:56
Like
39:56
for
39:56
those
39:56
of
39:56
you
39:57
that
39:57
don't
39:57
know,
39:57
like,
39:57
the
39:58
rivers
39:58
that
39:58
we
39:58
fish
39:58
around
39:59
here
39:59
aren't
39:59
crazy
40:00
busy
40:00
or
40:00
aren't
40:01
crazy
40:01
busy
40:01
gas.
40:02
And
40:02
they're
40:02
not
40:02
crazy
40:03
deep.
40:03
Right.
40:03
So
40:03
they're
40:04
small
40:04
pieces
40:05
of
40:05
water.
40:06
So,
40:07
you
40:07
know,
40:08
I
40:08
would
40:08
say,
40:09
safe
40:09
to
40:10
say
40:10
that
40:11
the
40:11
time
40:11
of
40:12
year
40:12
that
40:12
I'm
40:12
fishing
40:13
these
40:13
flies,
40:14
I'm
40:14
not
40:15
catching
40:15
fish
40:15
in
40:16
more
40:16
than
40:17
six
40:17
feet
40:17
of
40:17
water.
40:18
Most
40:18
of
40:18
the
40:18
fish
40:18
are
40:18
coming
40:19
two
40:19
to
40:20
four
40:20
feet
40:20
in
40:20
depth.
40:23
A
40:23
hundred
40:24
percent
40:24
of
40:24
my
40:25
fishing
40:25
during
40:26
peak
40:26
season
40:26
is
40:27
from
40:27
a
40:27
boat.
40:29
So
40:30
you're
40:31
able
40:31
to,
40:31
you
40:31
know,
40:32
in
40:32
unison
40:33
with
40:33
the,
40:34
the
40:34
rower,
40:36
you're
40:36
able
40:36
to
40:37
fish
40:37
at
40:37
a
40:38
desired
40:38
speed.
40:38
And
40:39
usually
40:39
with
40:39
this
40:41
fly
40:41
pattern,
40:42
it's,
40:42
it's
40:42
fish
40:43
from
40:43
a
40:43
moving
40:43
boat.
40:45
Yes.
40:45
There's
40:46
going
40:46
to
40:46
be
40:46
times
40:46
where
40:47
the
40:47
oarsman
40:47
is
40:48
going
40:48
to
40:48
crack
40:48
the,
40:48
the
40:49
oars
40:49
and
40:49
kind
40:49
of
40:50
hold
40:50
you
40:50
in
40:51
position
40:51
and
40:52
you
40:52
know,
40:52
hot
40:52
areas.
40:53
But
40:53
if
40:54
we're
40:54
just
40:54
kind
40:54
of
40:54
prospecting,
40:56
you
40:56
know,
40:56
we're
40:56
going
40:57
at
40:57
the
40:57
speed
40:58
of
40:58
the
40:58
current,
40:59
slightly
40:59
slower
41:00
and
41:01
just
41:01
kind
41:01
of
41:01
working
41:01
our
41:02
way
41:02
down.
41:02
This
41:03
fly
41:03
is
41:03
going
41:03
to
41:03
be
41:03
fished
41:04
out
41:05
more
41:05
times
41:05
than
41:06
not
41:06
on
41:06
a
41:06
45
41:07
degree
41:07
angle.
41:09
You
41:09
know,
41:10
I
41:10
don't
41:10
feel
41:11
like
41:11
you
41:11
got
41:11
to
41:11
be
41:11
a
41:12
hero
41:12
with
41:12
the
41:12
distance
41:13
of
41:13
how
41:13
far
41:13
you,
41:14
you
41:14
cast
41:15
this
41:15
thing.
41:15
I,
41:15
I
41:15
catch
41:16
more
41:17
big
41:17
fish
41:17
with
41:17
anglers
41:18
that
41:18
can
41:18
cast
41:19
30ft
41:19
than
41:20
big
41:20
fish
41:20
with
41:20
anglers
41:21
that
41:21
can
41:21
cast
41:21
80ft.
41:22
So
41:23
keeping
41:24
things
41:24
tight,
41:24
keeping
41:25
your
41:25
eyes
41:26
on
41:26
that
41:26
fly,
41:28
fly
41:29
line
41:29
and
41:29
leader
41:30
setup,
41:30
I'm
41:31
gonna
41:31
have
41:32
a
41:32
7
41:32
weight
41:33
or
41:33
an
41:34
8
41:34
weight
41:34
rod
41:35
99.9%
41:37
of
41:37
the
41:37
time.
41:38
Gonna
41:39
fish
41:39
an
41:39
intermediate
41:40
line
41:40
on
41:40
it.
41:41
My
41:41
two
41:42
favorite
41:42
rods
41:42
that
41:42
I,
41:43
that
41:43
I
41:43
fit.
41:43
My
41:43
favorite
41:43
rod
41:44
that
41:44
I
41:44
fish
41:44
with
41:44
clients
41:45
is
41:46
the
41:46
Loomis
41:47
V2
41:48
streamer
41:49
IMX
41:49
Pro
41:50
V2
41:50
streamer.
41:50
They
41:51
make
41:51
it
41:51
in
41:51
seven,
41:51
they
41:52
make
41:52
it
41:52
an
41:52
eight,
41:52
the
41:53
eight
41:53
foot
41:53
ten
41:53
inch
41:54
in
41:54
length
41:54
and
41:55
then
41:55
the
41:55
rad
41:55
that
41:56
I
41:56
designed
41:56
with
41:56
with
41:57
Loomis,
41:57
the
41:58
swim
41:58
fly
41:59
NRX
41:59
plus.
42:00
And
42:00
then
42:00
I'm
42:00
going
42:01
to
42:01
couple
42:01
that
42:01
with
42:01
an
42:02
intermediate
42:02
line.
42:04
So
42:05
you
42:05
know,
42:06
we
42:06
sell
42:07
intermediate
42:08
lines
42:08
from
42:10
Airflo,
42:10
we
42:11
sell
42:11
intermediate
42:11
lines
42:12
from
42:12
SA
42:13
and
42:13
the
42:13
guides
42:13
use
42:14
both.
42:14
I've
42:15
used
42:15
both
42:15
for
42:16
years.
42:17
Early
42:18
season
42:18
we're
42:18
going
42:18
to
42:18
run
42:19
the
42:20
cold
42:20
weather
42:20
versions
42:21
of
42:21
those
42:21
lines.
42:21
Airflo
42:22
has
42:22
one
42:22
called
42:22
the
42:23
four
42:23
season
42:23
sniper
42:24
and
42:25
you're
42:25
going
42:25
to
42:25
run
42:25
that
42:26
in
42:26
the
42:28
fast
42:28
intermediate
42:29
version
42:30
and,
42:30
or
42:31
if
42:31
you're
42:31
fishing
42:31
sa,
42:31
you're
42:32
going
42:32
to
42:32
run
42:32
the
42:32
full
42:33
Titan,
42:35
what
42:36
do
42:36
they
42:36
call
42:36
it?
42:36
Titan,
42:36
full
42:37
intermediate.
42:39
And
42:39
that's
42:39
going
42:39
to
42:39
be,
42:40
you
42:40
know,
42:41
the
42:41
line
42:42
and
42:42
then
42:42
you're
42:42
going
42:42
to
42:43
tie
42:43
yourself
42:43
a
42:43
hand
42:44
tied
42:44
leader
42:44
off
42:45
that,
42:46
you
42:46
know,
42:47
leaders
42:47
are
42:48
up
42:48
to
42:48
you.
42:48
I
42:48
don't
42:48
think
42:48
you
42:49
can
42:49
really
42:49
go
42:49
wrong
42:50
as
42:50
long
42:50
as
42:50
you
42:50
can
42:50
turn
42:50
the
42:51
thing
42:51
over.
42:52
And
42:52
if
42:52
you're
42:52
fishing
42:53
up
42:53
here,
42:53
you're
42:53
going
42:54
to
42:54
probably
42:54
be
42:54
running
42:54
15
42:55
or
42:55
16
42:55
for
42:56
your
42:56
your
42:56
tip
42:56
it
42:57
to
42:57
your
42:57
fly
42:57
on
42:57
these
42:57
bigger
42:58
flies.
42:59
If
42:59
not,
42:59
you're
42:59
going
42:59
to
42:59
be
43:00
donating
43:00
them
43:00
to
43:00
pike.
43:02
So
43:02
I
43:02
usually
43:03
run
43:03
16
43:04
and
43:04
I
43:04
use
43:04
a
43:05
specific
43:06
fluorocarbon
43:06
made
43:07
by
43:07
hatch
43:08
that
43:08
survives
43:09
pike
43:09
encounters
43:10
more
43:10
times
43:10
than
43:10
not.
43:11
But
43:12
leader
43:12
length
43:12
you're
43:13
going
43:13
to
43:13
run,
43:14
you
43:14
know,
43:14
on
43:15
a
43:15
short
43:15
end
43:15
of
43:15
the
43:16
stick,
43:16
I'd
43:16
say
43:16
four
43:17
feet
43:18
on
43:18
long
43:19
seven,
43:20
it's
43:20
kind
43:20
of
43:20
your
43:21
leader
43:22
just
43:22
depending
43:22
on
43:23
the
43:23
conditions,
43:23
how
43:24
big
43:24
a
43:24
water
43:24
you're
43:24
fishing,
43:26
what
43:26
you're
43:26
looking
43:26
to
43:26
get
43:26
out
43:27
of
43:27
your
43:27
fly,
43:27
the
43:27
longer
43:28
the
43:28
leader,
43:30
you
43:30
know,
43:30
like
43:31
I
43:31
think
43:31
you
43:31
need
43:31
to
43:31
be
43:31
a
43:32
little
43:32
more
43:32
skilled
43:32
with
43:32
the
43:33
longer
43:33
leaders,
43:34
the
43:34
shorter,
43:35
the
43:35
shorter
43:36
leash
43:36
is
43:37
preferred.
43:37
A
43:37
lot
43:37
of
43:37
times
43:38
when
43:38
you're
43:38
fishing
43:38
with
43:38
anglers
43:39
that
43:39
don't
43:39
spend
43:39
a
43:40
ton
43:40
of
43:40
time
43:40
on
43:40
the
43:40
water,
43:42
but
43:43
to
43:43
each
43:43
their
43:43
own,
43:44
you
43:44
can,
43:44
you
43:44
know,
43:45
each
43:45
guide
43:45
has
43:45
their
43:45
own
43:46
opinion
43:46
on
43:46
that.
43:46
But
43:47
if
43:47
it
43:47
turns
43:48
over
43:48
and
43:48
doesn't
43:48
get
43:49
bit
43:49
off
43:49
by
43:49
every
43:49
pike
43:50
that
43:50
eats
43:50
it,
43:50
I
43:50
think
43:50
you're
43:51
doing
43:51
something
43:51
right.
43:52
And
43:52
the
43:53
only
43:53
time
43:53
this
43:53
fly
43:53
pattern
43:54
really
43:54
doesn't
43:54
swim
43:55
worth
43:56
A
43:56
damn
43:56
is
43:56
if
43:56
you're
43:57
fishing
43:57
it
43:57
on
43:57
the
43:58
downstream,
44:00
you
44:00
know,
44:00
you
44:00
need
44:01
that,
44:01
that
44:01
tension,
44:02
that
44:02
resistance
44:04
on
44:04
the,
44:05
on
44:05
the
44:05
head
44:05
to
44:06
make
44:06
it
44:06
really
44:06
do
44:07
what
44:08
it
44:08
does
44:10
good.
44:10
And
44:10
that's
44:11
dance
44:11
and
44:11
looking
44:11
like
44:12
a
44:12
wounded
44:12
bait
44:12
fish.
44:13
So,
44:14
you
44:15
know,
44:15
as
44:15
long
44:15
as
44:15
you're
44:15
out
44:15
there,
44:16
you
44:16
know,
44:18
greater
44:18
than
44:18
a
44:18
45
44:19
down,
44:20
you
44:20
know,
44:20
or
44:20
around
44:20
a
44:21
45
44:21
down,
44:23
you
44:23
know,
44:23
you're,
44:23
you're,
44:24
you're
44:24
in
44:24
the
44:24
game.
44:25
And
44:25
you're
44:26
keeping
44:26
your
44:26
rod
44:26
tip
44:27
12
44:27
to
44:27
18
44:28
inches
44:28
off
44:28
the
44:28
water.
44:29
And
44:29
you're
44:30
just
44:30
working
44:30
on
44:31
making
44:32
that
44:32
thing
44:32
look
44:33
super
44:33
erratic.
44:34
So
44:35
no
44:35
robot
44:36
retrieves,
44:37
you
44:37
know,
44:37
mixing
44:38
it
44:38
up.
44:38
Crack
44:38
it
44:38
once,
44:39
let
44:39
it
44:39
sit,
44:39
crack
44:40
it
44:40
twice,
44:40
let
44:40
it
44:40
sit.
44:41
Three
44:41
quick
44:42
ones,
44:42
let
44:42
it
44:42
sit,
44:43
you
44:43
know,
44:43
back
44:43
to
44:43
one.
44:45
Just
44:46
mix
44:46
it
44:46
up.
44:46
And
44:47
always
44:48
look
44:48
around
44:49
your
44:49
fly.
44:50
You
44:50
know,
44:50
look
44:51
around
44:51
your
44:51
fly.
44:52
Don't
44:52
just
44:52
get
44:52
locked
44:53
in
44:53
on
44:53
just
44:53
the
44:53
fly
44:54
because
44:55
you'll
44:55
see
44:55
them
44:55
coming.
44:57
And
44:57
you
44:58
know,
44:58
I
44:58
spend
45:00
those
45:00
10,
45:00
11
45:00
weeks
45:01
every
45:01
spring
45:02
and
45:02
there's
45:03
not
45:03
much
45:03
sitting
45:03
down.
45:04
It's
45:04
for
45:05
fishing
45:05
a
45:05
streamer.
45:06
I'm
45:06
standing
45:06
up
45:07
and
45:08
I
45:08
think
45:08
that's,
45:08
that's
45:08
my
45:09
favorite
45:09
part
45:09
of
45:09
fishing
45:10
big
45:10
swim
45:10
flies.
45:11
Whether
45:11
it
45:11
be
45:11
a,
45:12
a
45:12
D
45:12
or
45:13
a
45:13
big
45:13
feather
45:13
changer
45:14
with
45:14
a
45:14
brush
45:14
head
45:15
or
45:15
a
45:15
leggy
45:15
boy
45:16
or
45:16
whatever,
45:16
it's
45:16
just
45:17
seeing
45:17
that
45:18
eat,
45:20
you
45:20
know,
45:20
and
45:21
looking
45:22
around
45:22
your
45:22
fly
45:22
so
45:23
you
45:23
get,
45:23
you
45:23
get
45:23
the
45:23
full
45:24
experience
45:25
as
45:25
you're
45:25
fishing
45:25
it.
45:26
But
45:26
yeah,
45:27
it's,
45:27
it
45:27
fishes
45:27
itself
45:28
if
45:28
you
45:28
just,
45:29
if
45:30
you
45:30
just
45:30
work
45:31
it
45:31
the
45:31
right
45:31
way.
45:32
Yeah.
45:33
And
45:33
just
45:33
backing
45:33
up
45:33
just
45:34
a
45:34
second
45:34
on
45:34
leader,
45:34
I
45:34
assume
45:35
you're
45:35
running
45:35
that
45:35
to
45:36
some
45:36
type
45:37
of
45:37
loop
45:37
knot
45:37
on
45:38
the
45:38
fly.
45:38
And
45:38
no
45:38
swivels.
45:39
No
45:39
swivels,
45:40
right.
45:40
Yeah,
45:40
I
45:40
don't
45:41
run
45:41
any
45:41
swivels.
45:42
No.
45:42
I
45:43
just
45:43
go
45:43
straight
45:43
up.
45:44
And
45:44
as
45:45
long
45:45
as
45:45
you
45:45
get
45:45
that
45:45
head
45:45
on
45:46
there
45:46
straight
45:47
and
45:47
you
45:47
know,
45:47
the
45:48
fly
45:48
isn't
45:48
a
45:48
complete
45:49
mess.
45:51
It's.
45:51
You're
45:51
not
45:52
going
45:52
to
45:52
get,
45:52
you're
45:53
not
45:53
going
45:53
to
45:53
get
45:53
twisting
45:55
in
45:55
the,
45:55
in
45:56
the
45:56
line.
45:56
From
45:57
my
45:57
experience,
45:57
doesn't
45:57
matter
45:58
what
45:58
fly
45:58
line
45:59
you're
45:59
running,
46:00
tie
46:00
the
46:00
fly
46:01
right
46:01
and
46:02
it'll,
46:02
it'll
46:02
perform
46:03
for
46:03
you.
46:03
Yeah.
46:04
And
46:04
you
46:04
know,
46:04
just
46:05
for
46:05
folks
46:05
that
46:06
can't
46:06
put
46:06
their
46:06
hands
46:07
on
46:07
those
46:07
loomises,
46:08
because
46:08
I
46:08
know
46:08
kind
46:08
of
46:08
in
46:09
doing,
46:09
you
46:09
know,
46:09
multiple
46:09
interviews
46:10
at
46:10
the
46:10
butcher
46:10
shop,
46:11
you
46:11
know,
46:11
all
46:11
of
46:11
you
46:12
guys,
46:12
you,
46:12
you
46:13
mind
46:13
talking
46:13
about
46:14
kind
46:14
of
46:16
the
46:16
way
46:17
the
46:17
tip
46:17
works
46:17
and
46:17
it's
46:18
not
46:18
as
46:18
soft
46:18
as
46:18
like
46:19
some
46:19
trout
46:19
rods
46:19
and
46:20
other
46:20
rods
46:20
and
46:20
why
46:20
you
46:20
like
46:21
that
46:21
for
46:21
fly
46:21
action?
46:22
Yeah,
46:23
I
46:23
mean,
46:23
like,
46:23
think
46:23
about
46:23
this,
46:24
like
46:24
Assault.
46:24
Like
46:24
everybody
46:25
used
46:25
to
46:25
use
46:25
saltwater
46:26
rods
46:26
to
46:26
go
46:26
streamer
46:27
fishing,
46:27
right?
46:27
Like
46:28
they,
46:28
they
46:29
cast
46:29
great,
46:30
you
46:30
know,
46:31
but
46:31
they're
46:31
all
46:31
designed
46:32
to
46:32
fish
46:32
floating
46:33
line.
46:34
Like,
46:34
you
46:34
know,
46:34
the,
46:35
these.
46:36
I,
46:36
I
46:36
assume
46:37
that
46:37
these
46:37
major
46:38
manufacturers
46:39
that
46:39
are
46:39
creating
46:39
9
46:40
foot
46:40
8
46:40
weight
46:40
rods,
46:41
you
46:41
know,
46:42
their,
46:42
their
46:43
target
46:43
is,
46:44
is
46:44
flats
46:44
fishing,
46:45
right?
46:45
So
46:45
you're
46:46
throwing
46:46
a
46:47
crab
46:47
fly
46:47
or
46:48
a
46:48
bead
46:48
chain,
46:49
bonefish
46:49
fly
46:50
or
46:50
permit
46:51
crab
46:51
or
46:52
whatever,
46:52
right?
46:52
That's
46:53
what
46:53
that
46:53
rod's
46:53
designed
46:54
to
46:54
do.
46:54
It's
46:54
not
46:54
designed
46:55
to,
46:55
to
46:56
cast
46:56
these
46:56
shorter
46:58
lines.
46:58
Maybe
46:59
a
46:59
sink
46:59
tip
46:59
in
46:59
some
47:00
situations.
47:01
Definitely
47:01
intermediates.
47:03
You
47:03
know,
47:03
they're
47:04
not
47:04
designed
47:04
to
47:04
do
47:04
that.
47:04
They're
47:05
designed
47:05
to
47:05
throw,
47:05
throw
47:06
floaters.
47:06
So
47:07
the
47:07
rods
47:08
that
47:08
are
47:08
designed
47:08
for
47:08
streamers,
47:09
you
47:09
know,
47:09
the
47:09
ones
47:10
that
47:10
are
47:10
out
47:10
there
47:10
are,
47:11
you
47:11
know,
47:12
designed
47:12
to
47:12
throw
47:13
your,
47:13
your
47:13
reverse
47:14
engineering
47:14
it,
47:14
right?
47:15
You
47:15
got
47:15
a
47:15
fly
47:15
line
47:15
that
47:16
you
47:16
really
47:16
like
47:16
and
47:16
you're,
47:17
you're
47:17
building
47:17
a
47:17
rod
47:18
that
47:18
throws
47:18
that
47:18
fly
47:19
line
47:19
and
47:19
then
47:19
also
47:20
animates
47:20
the
47:20
flies
47:22
correctly.
47:22
You
47:22
know,
47:23
my
47:23
rod
47:23
isn't
47:24
for
47:24
everybody.
47:24
If
47:25
you're
47:25
a
47:25
beginner,
47:26
that's
47:27
probably
47:27
not
47:27
the
47:27
rod
47:28
for
47:28
you.
47:28
You
47:28
know,
47:29
it's
47:29
a
47:29
rod
47:29
built
47:29
for,
47:30
for
47:31
someone
47:31
that
47:31
can
47:31
really
47:32
get
47:33
the
47:33
most
47:33
out
47:33
of
47:33
a
47:33
rod,
47:34
casting
47:34
wise.
47:36
And
47:36
you
47:37
know,
47:37
little
47:37
movements
47:38
of
47:38
the
47:38
rod
47:39
transfer
47:40
to
47:40
the
47:40
fly
47:42
that
47:42
make
47:42
it,
47:42
make
47:43
it
47:43
easier
47:43
after
47:43
a
47:44
long
47:44
day
47:44
of
47:44
fishing.
47:45
So
47:45
they're
47:45
slightly
47:46
shorter.
47:47
You
47:47
know,
47:47
most
47:47
of
47:47
these
47:47
Streamer
47:48
rods
47:48
are
47:48
8,
47:49
8
47:49
to
47:49
8,
47:49
10.
47:49
Now
47:50
you
47:50
know,
47:50
there's
47:50
other
47:50
manufacturers
47:51
who
47:52
now
47:52
come
47:53
out
47:53
with
47:53
eight
47:53
tens
47:54
that
47:54
are
47:54
kind
47:54
of
47:54
streamer
47:55
driven,
47:55
eight
47:56
eights
47:56
that
47:56
are
47:56
streamer
47:57
driven.
47:58
But
47:59
yeah,
47:59
it's
47:59
just
47:59
a
47:59
different,
48:00
different
48:00
setup
48:01
for
48:01
doing
48:01
different
48:01
things.
48:02
You
48:02
know,
48:02
you're
48:02
saltwater
48:03
fishing,
48:03
you're
48:04
making
48:04
shots
48:04
to
48:05
fish
48:05
that
48:05
you
48:06
can
48:06
see
48:06
your
48:07
streamer
48:07
fishing.
48:07
You're
48:08
casting
48:08
all
48:09
day,
48:09
animating
48:10
that
48:10
fly
48:10
all
48:11
day.
48:11
So
48:12
there's
48:12
now
48:12
tools
48:13
for
48:13
it.
48:13
And
48:14
you
48:14
know,
48:15
those
48:15
happen
48:15
to
48:15
be,
48:15
you
48:16
know,
48:16
to
48:16
my
48:16
favorite.
48:17
I
48:17
think
48:17
that,
48:18
that
48:18
mid
48:18
price
48:18
rod,
48:19
that
48:19
IMAX
48:19
Pro
48:20
V2,
48:20
I
48:20
think
48:20
that
48:20
comes
48:21
in
48:21
at
48:21
like
48:21
595.
48:24
And
48:25
I
48:25
would
48:25
say
48:25
more
48:26
people
48:26
cast
48:26
that
48:26
rod
48:27
better
48:27
than,
48:27
than
48:28
my
48:28
rod.
48:28
When
48:28
it
48:28
comes
48:29
to
48:29
clients.
48:31
It's
48:31
just
48:31
a
48:31
very
48:32
easy
48:32
casting,
48:33
forgiving,
48:34
forgiving
48:34
rod.
48:36
So
48:37
there's
48:37
a
48:37
lot
48:37
of
48:37
options
48:38
out
48:38
there.
48:38
I'm
48:38
sure,
48:39
I'm
48:39
sure
48:39
your
48:40
local
48:40
fly
48:40
shop
48:40
will
48:41
allow
48:41
you
48:41
to
48:41
go
48:42
out
48:42
and
48:42
take
48:43
them
48:43
for
48:43
a
48:43
ride.
48:43
You
48:44
know,
48:44
that's,
48:45
that's
48:45
how
48:45
you
48:45
get
48:45
when
48:45
you're
48:45
picking
48:46
out
48:46
your,
48:46
the
48:46
rod
48:47
to
48:47
do
48:47
this.
48:47
You
48:48
know,
48:48
how
48:48
big
48:48
is
48:48
the
48:49
cork,
48:49
how
48:49
big
48:49
is
48:49
your
48:50
hand.
48:50
You
48:50
know,
48:50
like
48:50
there's
48:51
so
48:51
many
48:51
factors,
48:53
you
48:54
know,
48:54
when
48:54
it
48:54
comes
48:54
to
48:54
purchasing
48:55
a
48:55
rod.
48:56
You
48:56
know,
48:56
anybody
48:56
that
48:56
doesn't
48:56
go
48:57
out
48:57
and
48:57
actually
48:57
cast
48:57
the
48:57
rod
48:58
with
48:58
the
48:58
fly
48:58
line
48:58
that
48:59
they're
48:59
going
48:59
to
48:59
be
48:59
using
48:59
on
49:00
it,
49:00
it's
49:00
kind
49:00
of,
49:00
kind
49:01
of
49:01
silly
49:01
if
49:01
you
49:01
ask
49:02
me.
49:02
Yeah,
49:03
that's
49:03
a
49:03
little
49:03
nuts.
49:03
Although
49:03
I'll
49:04
tell
49:04
you,
49:04
it's
49:04
harder
49:04
and
49:04
harder
49:05
to
49:05
find
49:05
shops
49:05
like
49:06
yours.
49:06
So
49:07
you
49:08
know,
49:08
people,
49:08
you
49:09
know,
49:09
if
49:09
you
49:09
can't,
49:09
can't
49:10
find
49:10
it
49:10
locally.
49:11
Now
49:11
that
49:11
we
49:11
now
49:11
have
49:11
your
49:11
E
49:12
Commerce
49:12
solution,
49:12
they
49:12
should
49:13
reach
49:13
out,
49:13
right?
49:14
Yeah,
49:14
for
49:14
sure.
49:15
For
49:15
sure.
49:15
We
49:15
got
49:15
you.
49:15
We
49:16
definitely
49:16
got
49:16
you
49:16
covered.
49:17
And
49:17
you
49:17
know
49:17
when
49:17
you
49:17
call
49:18
here,
49:18
you're
49:18
going
49:18
to
49:18
talk
49:18
to
49:18
somebody
49:19
that
49:20
knows
49:20
the
49:21
product
49:21
and
49:21
fish
49:22
is
49:22
hard.
49:22
Yeah.
49:23
And
49:23
so,
49:23
you
49:23
know,
49:24
shifting
49:24
gears,
49:24
I'm
49:25
kind
49:25
of
49:25
shocked.
49:25
We
49:25
were
49:26
kind
49:26
of
49:26
talking
49:26
about
49:26
like
49:26
we're,
49:27
we're
49:27
ready
49:27
to
49:27
kind
49:27
of
49:27
get
49:28
through
49:28
all
49:28
this
49:28
cool
49:28
stuff
49:29
to
49:29
march
49:29
and
49:29
catch
49:29
our
49:29
breath.
49:30
But
49:30
you
49:31
know,
49:31
in
49:31
less
49:31
than
49:31
a
49:31
month
49:32
the
49:32
fourth
49:32
annual
49:32
Bob
49:33
on
49:33
the
49:33
Hood
49:33
is
49:33
going
49:33
to
49:34
going
49:34
to
49:34
go
49:34
down.
49:34
You
49:35
want
49:35
to
49:35
let
49:35
folks
49:35
know
49:35
what
49:36
to
49:36
expect
49:36
this
49:36
year?
49:37
Yeah,
49:37
I
49:38
mean
49:38
it's
49:38
you
49:39
know,
49:39
similar
49:39
to
49:39
years
49:40
past.
49:40
But
49:41
every
49:41
year
49:41
we,
49:42
the
49:42
crowd
49:43
grows
49:43
and
49:44
we,
49:44
we
49:44
step
49:45
up
49:45
our
49:45
game.
49:45
So
49:46
if
49:47
you're
49:47
coming
49:47
to
49:47
town
49:48
from
49:48
out
49:48
of
49:48
town
49:50
per
49:50
usual,
49:50
we
49:51
got
49:51
a
49:51
hotel
49:51
block
49:52
over
49:52
at
49:52
the
49:52
Marriott
49:53
Fairfield
49:54
Marriott
49:54
here,
49:55
about
49:55
three
49:55
miles
49:55
from
49:56
the
49:56
shop.
49:57
There's
49:57
a
49:57
room
49:57
block
49:58
over
49:58
there.
49:58
So
49:58
that's
49:58
where
49:59
most
49:59
people
49:59
stay.
50:01
Everything's
50:01
going
50:01
to
50:01
kick
50:02
off
50:02
Friday
50:02
night.
50:03
George
50:03
Daniel
50:03
is
50:04
going
50:04
to
50:04
be
50:04
doing
50:04
a
50:04
presentation
50:05
here
50:05
with
50:06
some
50:06
giveaways
50:07
and
50:07
whatnot.
50:08
Kind
50:08
of
50:08
a
50:08
welcoming
50:10
pre
50:10
party
50:10
of
50:11
sorts
50:11
that
50:12
has
50:12
been
50:12
growing
50:13
every
50:13
year.
50:16
You'll
50:16
be
50:16
able
50:16
to
50:16
pick
50:16
up
50:17
your
50:17
wristband
50:17
and
50:18
whatnot
50:20
that
50:20
night.
50:21
And
50:21
then
50:21
Saturday
50:22
I
50:22
believe
50:23
the
50:23
doors
50:23
open
50:23
at
50:24
10,
50:24
they
50:24
open
50:24
up
50:25
at
50:25
nine
50:25
here.
50:26
We'll
50:26
have
50:26
a
50:26
whiting
50:27
Wednesday
50:29
on
50:29
Saturday
50:29
this
50:30
year
50:30
here
50:30
at
50:30
the
50:31
at
50:31
Bobbin.
50:32
So
50:32
that'll
50:32
be
50:33
you
50:33
know,
50:33
a
50:33
nice
50:34
little
50:34
rush
50:34
there
50:34
at
50:34
9am
50:35
when
50:35
the
50:35
shop
50:36
opens
50:36
for
50:36
a
50:36
feather
50:37
drop.
50:37
And
50:37
we're,
50:38
we're
50:38
working
50:38
on
50:39
details
50:39
on
50:39
that
50:40
this
50:40
week
50:41
but
50:41
that's
50:41
happening
50:42
and
50:42
then
50:43
all
50:43
day
50:43
at
50:43
the
50:43
show.
50:44
So
50:44
10
50:44
to
50:44
5
50:45
we'll
50:45
have
50:45
the
50:46
show.
50:46
There's
50:46
like
50:46
45
50:47
tires.
50:48
Continue
50:49
to
50:49
rotate
50:49
the
50:50
out
50:50
of
50:50
town
50:50
people
50:51
and
50:51
bring
50:52
in
50:52
fresh
50:52
blood.
50:53
We'll
50:53
have
50:53
the
50:54
hot
50:54
seat
50:54
going
50:54
here
50:55
at
50:55
the
50:55
shop
50:55
and
50:55
the
50:56
guys
50:56
that
50:56
aren't
50:57
in
50:57
the
50:57
industry
50:58
but
50:58
are
50:58
great
50:58
tires,
50:59
they'll
50:59
be
50:59
here
51:00
whipping
51:00
up
51:00
some
51:00
flies
51:01
at
51:01
the
51:01
shop.
51:02
Obviously
51:03
have
51:03
deals
51:04
and
51:04
promotions
51:04
going
51:05
on
51:05
during
51:05
the
51:05
event
51:07
and
51:07
then
51:08
the
51:09
parties
51:09
goes
51:09
on.
51:10
As
51:10
soon
51:10
as
51:10
that's
51:11
done
51:11
at
51:11
5
51:11
o'
51:11
clock
51:11
everyone
51:12
kind
51:12
of
51:13
makes
51:13
the
51:13
125
51:14
yard
51:15
walk
51:15
over
51:15
to
51:15
the
51:15
store
51:16
and
51:16
we'll
51:16
have
51:17
the
51:18
festivities
51:18
kicking
51:19
off
51:19
at
51:19
six
51:20
with
51:20
of
51:20
course
51:21
one
51:21
bugger,
51:22
one
51:22
brat,
51:22
one
51:23
beer.
51:23
We've
51:24
got
51:24
some
51:24
great
51:24
contestants.
51:26
I
51:26
could,
51:27
I
51:27
just
51:27
got
51:27
the
51:27
graphic
51:28
today.
51:28
Marvin,
51:28
would
51:28
you
51:29
like
51:29
me
51:29
to
51:29
tell
51:29
you
51:29
who's,
51:30
who's
51:30
competing
51:31
this
51:31
year?
51:31
Absolutely.
51:32
All
51:33
right,
51:33
let's
51:33
see
51:33
here.
51:33
I'm
51:34
looking
51:34
at
51:34
my
51:34
phone.
51:35
I
51:35
know,
51:35
I
51:35
know.
51:36
We
51:36
got
51:36
some
51:36
returners.
51:37
We
51:37
got
51:38
Mike
51:38
Schmidt
51:39
coming
51:40
up
51:40
for
51:40
it.
51:41
Chris
51:42
Keller
51:42
from
51:43
Montana
51:43
Fly.
51:43
He's
51:44
going
51:44
to
51:44
take
51:44
his
51:44
second
51:45
shot
51:45
at
51:45
it.
51:47
Former
51:47
champion
51:48
AK
51:48
Vitto,
51:49
one
51:49
of
51:49
our
51:49
Ecom
51:50
guys,
51:50
he's
51:51
going
51:51
to
51:51
be
51:51
in
51:51
it
51:52
this
51:52
year.
51:53
Peter
51:54
Marcano
51:54
from
51:55
Simms,
51:55
he's
51:56
stepping
51:56
up,
51:56
bringing,
51:57
bringing
51:57
his
51:57
appetite
51:58
for
51:58
Montana.
52:00
Ross
52:00
Davis,
52:01
last
52:01
year's
52:02
reigning
52:02
champion.
52:02
He
52:03
once
52:03
again
52:03
will
52:03
be
52:04
in
52:04
it.
52:06
We
52:06
got
52:06
a
52:06
pretty,
52:09
a
52:09
lot
52:10
of
52:10
large
52:10
humans
52:10
in
52:11
this
52:11
one
52:11
but
52:11
we
52:12
needed
52:12
a
52:12
little
52:12
guy
52:13
so
52:13
we
52:13
asked
52:14
Matt
52:14
Stockton
52:15
to
52:15
do
52:15
it.
52:16
The
52:16
artist.
52:16
So
52:17
Stockton's
52:17
gonna
52:18
do
52:18
is
52:19
his
52:19
best.
52:20
And
52:20
then
52:21
Ryan
52:22
Gates,
52:22
another
52:22
customer
52:23
of
52:23
ours
52:23
and
52:23
then
52:23
Biggie,
52:24
one
52:25
of
52:25
our
52:25
employees.
52:25
Biggie
52:26
is
52:26
going
52:26
to
52:26
be
52:27
in
52:27
it.
52:27
So
52:27
that's
52:28
going
52:28
to
52:28
be
52:28
at
52:28
6
52:28
o'.
52:29
Clock.
52:30
The
52:31
title
52:31
kind
52:31
of
52:31
explains
52:32
it.
52:32
You
52:32
got
52:32
to
52:32
sit
52:33
there,
52:33
you
52:33
got
52:33
to
52:33
crank
52:33
out
52:34
one
52:34
bugger,
52:35
you
52:35
gotta
52:35
eat
52:36
a
52:36
brat
52:36
and
52:37
you
52:37
gotta
52:37
drink
52:37
a
52:37
beer
52:38
and
52:39
it's
52:40
quite
52:40
entertaining
52:41
after,
52:41
after
52:42
a
52:42
couple
52:42
drinks.
52:42
So
52:43
that'll
52:43
be
52:43
going
52:44
on
52:44
at
52:44
6
52:44
and
52:44
then
52:44
after
52:45
that
52:45
we
52:45
have
52:45
giveaways.
52:46
And
52:46
last
52:47
year
52:47
I
52:47
think,
52:48
I
52:48
don't
52:48
know
52:48
if
52:48
you
52:48
were
52:48
here
52:49
late
52:49
but
52:49
I,
52:49
I
52:50
think
52:50
it,
52:50
the
52:50
party
52:50
out
52:51
back
52:51
went
52:51
till
52:51
about
52:52
11.
52:54
So
52:54
yeah,
52:55
we
52:55
have
52:55
the
52:55
tents
52:55
up
52:56
and
52:56
whatnot
52:56
and
52:56
then
52:57
Sunday's
52:57
classes.
52:58
So
52:59
we'll
52:59
have
52:59
the
52:59
classes
53:00
with,
53:00
with
53:00
all
53:01
the
53:01
talent
53:01
on
53:01
Sundays.
53:02
Yeah.
53:03
And
53:03
you
53:03
know
53:03
this
53:03
will
53:03
drop
53:04
right
53:04
before
53:04
bobbin
53:05
but
53:05
there
53:06
probably
53:06
won't
53:06
be
53:06
any
53:07
tickets
53:07
left
53:07
because
53:08
you
53:08
guys,
53:08
I
53:08
don't
53:08
think
53:08
you
53:09
only
53:09
got
53:09
a
53:09
handful
53:09
left
53:09
but
53:10
people
53:10
can
53:10
always
53:10
swing
53:11
by
53:11
the
53:11
store.
53:11
There'll
53:12
be
53:12
plenty
53:12
of
53:12
cool
53:12
stuff
53:13
going
53:13
on
53:13
there
53:13
during
53:13
the
53:13
day,
53:14
right?
53:15
Correct.
53:15
Yeah.
53:15
There's
53:17
200
53:17
tickets
53:18
up
53:18
for
53:18
grabs
53:18
this
53:18
year.
53:19
I
53:19
think
53:19
as
53:19
of
53:20
last
53:20
night
53:21
we
53:21
had
53:21
190
53:23
sold.
53:23
So
53:23
there's,
53:24
I'm
53:24
sure
53:24
by
53:25
the
53:25
time
53:25
this
53:25
comes
53:25
out
53:26
those
53:26
will
53:26
all
53:26
be
53:27
gone.
53:28
But
53:28
yeah,
53:28
I
53:28
mean
53:29
it
53:29
just,
53:29
it
53:30
grows
53:30
every
53:30
year.
53:30
We
53:31
did
53:31
a
53:31
whole
53:31
bunch
53:31
of
53:31
cool
53:31
stuff
53:32
this
53:32
year
53:32
for
53:33
the
53:33
tickets
53:33
where
53:34
we
53:34
had
53:34
a
53:34
platinum
53:35
ticket,
53:35
the
53:35
deck
53:36
supported
53:36
and
53:37
you
53:37
got
53:37
a
53:37
decked
53:37
box.
53:38
It
53:38
was
53:38
worth
53:38
like
53:38
100
53:39
bucks.
53:40
The
53:40
platinum
53:41
tickets
53:41
come
53:41
with
53:41
the
53:41
killer
53:42
goodie
53:42
bag
53:42
which
53:43
is
53:43
features
53:44
products
53:44
from
53:44
Montana
53:45
Fly
53:46
and
53:46
Whiting
53:47
and
53:47
Yeti.
53:49
And
53:49
then
53:49
your
53:50
general
53:50
admission
53:50
tickets
53:51
were
53:52
kind
53:52
of
53:52
released
53:52
after
53:53
those
53:53
first
53:53
140
53:54
went.
53:54
So
53:55
yeah,
53:55
looking
53:56
forward
53:56
to
53:56
a
53:56
killer
53:57
set
53:57
of
53:57
sponsors
53:57
this
53:58
year.
53:58
Per
53:58
usual,
54:00
like
54:00
I
54:00
mentioned
54:00
before,
54:01
the
54:01
big
54:01
guys
54:01
that
54:01
always
54:02
step
54:02
up,
54:02
you
54:02
got
54:02
Ahrex,
54:03
Montana
54:04
fly,
54:05
Yeti.
54:07
You
54:07
know,
54:07
the
54:07
guys
54:07
at
54:08
Hedron
54:08
support
54:08
it.
54:10
Blane
54:10
obviously
54:11
supports
54:11
it,
54:12
Sight
54:12
Cast,
54:13
Renzetti,
54:14
Regal,
54:15
Dyna
54:15
King.
54:16
So
54:17
that's
54:17
going
54:17
to
54:17
be
54:18
pretty
54:18
cool.
54:18
I
54:18
got
54:18
the
54:18
only
54:19
thing
54:19
that's
54:19
changed
54:20
this
54:20
year
54:21
really
54:21
on
54:21
the,
54:22
the
54:22
Saturday
54:22
show
54:23
front
54:23
is
54:23
we
54:24
have,
54:25
we
54:25
got
54:26
our,
54:27
I
54:27
guess
54:29
policy
54:29
to
54:30
serve
54:31
alcohol
54:31
over
54:32
at
54:32
the
54:32
Freight
54:32
house.
54:32
So
54:33
we'll
54:33
have
54:33
a,
54:34
have
54:34
a
54:34
bartender
54:35
over
54:35
there
54:36
serving
54:36
up
54:36
some
54:36
drinks.
54:37
So
54:37
we
54:37
want
54:37
to
54:38
come
54:38
over
54:38
here.
54:39
Yeah,
54:39
Bloody
54:40
Marys
54:40
are
54:40
always
54:40
good,
54:41
right?
54:41
Right.
54:42
Yeah,
54:42
yeah.
54:42
So.
54:43
So
54:43
yeah,
54:44
man,
54:44
the
54:44
part,
54:44
it's
54:44
a
54:44
big
54:45
party.
54:45
It's,
54:45
it's
54:46
good
54:46
to
54:46
get
54:46
everyone
54:46
together
54:47
and
54:48
you
54:48
know,
54:49
it's
54:49
from
54:49
the
54:49
beginning
54:50
of
54:50
it,
54:50
you
54:50
know,
54:50
putting
54:51
it
54:51
together,
54:51
the
54:51
vision
54:52
for
54:52
it,
54:52
it
54:52
was
54:52
like,
54:53
you
54:53
know,
54:53
let's
54:54
get
54:54
a
54:54
bunch
54:54
of
54:54
like
54:55
minded
54:55
people
54:55
together,
54:56
but
54:56
let's
54:56
get,
54:57
you
54:58
know,
54:58
the
54:58
best
54:58
of
54:58
the
54:58
best
54:59
guys
54:59
that
55:00
get
55:00
along
55:01
with
55:01
each
55:01
other
55:01
and
55:02
you
55:03
know,
55:03
just,
55:04
you
55:04
know,
55:05
if
55:05
you
55:05
look
55:05
at
55:05
the
55:05
list,
55:06
there's
55:06
a
55:06
lot
55:06
of
55:06
really
55:06
good
55:07
humans
55:07
on
55:07
there
55:07
that
55:08
have
55:09
contributed
55:09
to,
55:10
you
55:10
know,
55:10
what
55:11
we
55:11
love
55:11
to
55:11
do
55:11
and
55:12
that's
55:13
tie
55:13
feathers
55:13
and
55:14
fur
55:14
on
55:14
hooks
55:14
and
55:14
go
55:15
out
55:15
and
55:15
chase
55:15
wild
55:16
fish
55:16
and,
55:17
and
55:17
rivers
55:17
and
55:17
whatnot.
55:18
So
55:19
usually
55:19
a
55:20
pretty
55:20
damn
55:20
good
55:20
time.
55:21
Look
55:21
forward
55:21
to
55:22
this
55:22
year.
55:22
Yeah,
55:23
it's
55:23
amazing.
55:23
I
55:23
mean
55:23
I've,
55:24
you
55:24
know,
55:24
do
55:25
the
55:25
show
55:25
thing
55:25
a
55:25
lot
55:25
in
55:26
a
55:26
lot
55:26
of
55:26
different
55:26
places
55:27
and
55:27
I
55:27
think
55:27
that,
55:28
you
55:28
know,
55:28
Bobbin
55:29
is
55:29
the
55:29
biggest
55:29
collection
55:30
of
55:30
fishy
55:31
people
55:31
that
55:31
tie
55:32
anywhere,
55:33
right?
55:34
Yeah,
55:35
definitely,
55:35
definitely.
55:36
For
55:36
our
55:36
area,
55:37
you
55:37
know,
55:37
you're
55:37
pulling,
55:38
pulling
55:38
the
55:38
core
55:39
of
55:39
the
55:39
Midwest
55:39
crew
55:40
and
55:40
you
55:41
know,
55:41
there
55:41
are
55:41
a
55:41
few
55:42
guys
55:42
that
55:43
just
55:43
aren't
55:43
able
55:44
to
55:44
make
55:44
it
55:44
because
55:44
they're
55:44
traveling
55:45
that
55:45
time
55:45
of
55:45
year
55:45
and
55:46
guiding
55:46
other
55:46
places.
55:47
But
55:48
like
55:48
I
55:48
said,
55:48
you
55:49
know,
55:49
you
55:49
got
55:49
the
55:49
core
55:50
of
55:50
the
55:50
guys
55:50
that
55:50
get
55:50
along
55:51
that
55:51
can
55:52
have
55:52
contributed
55:52
to
55:53
the
55:53
knowledge
55:53
base
55:53
in
55:54
this
55:54
area.
55:54
And
55:55
we
55:55
all,
55:56
we've
55:56
all
55:56
benefited
55:57
from
55:57
it
55:57
and
55:58
they're
55:58
all
55:58
good
55:58
people
55:59
where
55:59
you
55:59
can
55:59
just
55:59
sit
56:00
there
56:00
and
56:00
talk
56:00
with
56:00
them
56:01
and
56:01
you
56:02
know,
56:02
that's
56:02
from
56:02
the
56:02
end,
56:02
you
56:03
know
56:03
this,
56:03
you've
56:03
been
56:04
here,
56:04
it's
56:04
like
56:04
it's
56:04
not
56:05
designed
56:05
to
56:05
be
56:05
like
56:06
a
56:06
show
56:06
that,
56:07
you
56:07
know,
56:07
costs
56:08
$5
56:08
to
56:09
get
56:09
in
56:09
where
56:09
there's
56:09
a
56:09
million
56:10
people
56:11
or
56:11
you
56:11
can't
56:11
even,
56:12
you
56:12
know,
56:13
strike
56:13
up
56:13
a
56:13
conversation
56:14
with
56:14
the
56:15
people.
56:15
You
56:15
came
56:15
there
56:15
to
56:15
see
56:16
where
56:16
this
56:17
is.
56:17
Like
56:17
you've
56:17
got
56:17
the
56:17
opportunity
56:18
to
56:18
sit
56:18
down,
56:19
watch
56:19
them
56:20
tie,
56:20
ask
56:20
them
56:21
questions
56:21
and
56:21
then
56:21
after,
56:22
when
56:22
it's
56:22
all
56:22
done,
56:22
you
56:23
can
56:23
have
56:23
a
56:23
beer
56:23
with
56:23
them,
56:24
hang
56:24
out
56:24
at
56:24
the
56:24
shop,
56:25
maybe
56:25
find
56:25
them
56:26
at
56:26
the
56:26
local
56:26
watering
56:26
hole
56:27
late
56:27
night,
56:27
you
56:28
know,
56:28
it's
56:28
a
56:29
pretty
56:29
cool
56:29
experience.
56:30
Yeah,
56:30
absolutely.
56:30
Are
56:31
there
56:31
going
56:31
to
56:31
be
56:31
any
56:31
other
56:32
places
56:32
kind
56:32
of
56:32
during
56:33
2026
56:33
show
56:34
season
56:34
people
56:34
can
56:34
find
56:35
the
56:35
so
56:35
crew.
56:36
Yeah,
56:37
this
56:37
week,
56:38
today
56:38
I
56:38
just
56:38
started
56:39
packing
56:39
up
56:39
for
56:41
which
56:41
will
56:41
be
56:41
over
56:41
by
56:41
the
56:42
time
56:42
you
56:42
hear
56:42
this
56:42
but
56:43
the
56:43
ultimate
56:43
fishing
56:43
show
56:44
in
56:44
Detroit.
56:45
And
56:45
then
56:46
we're
56:46
putting
56:46
together
56:47
a
56:47
new,
56:48
a
56:49
new
56:49
show
56:49
show
56:50
to
56:50
so
56:50
to
56:50
speak.
56:51
It's
56:52
just
56:52
going
56:52
to
56:52
be
56:52
like
56:52
a
56:53
spring
56:53
angling
56:54
expo.
56:54
It's
56:54
going
56:54
to
56:54
be
56:55
March
56:55
21st.
56:56
It's
56:56
going
56:56
to
56:56
be
56:57
at
56:57
the
56:57
same
56:57
exact
56:58
venue
56:58
as
56:59
Bob
56:59
in
56:59
the
56:59
Hood,
57:00
which
57:00
is
57:00
the
57:00
Ypsilanti
57:01
freight
57:01
house
57:02
about
57:02
100
57:02
yards
57:03
from
57:03
where
57:03
I'm
57:03
sitting
57:03
right
57:04
now.
57:05
And
57:05
it's
57:05
going
57:06
to
57:06
be
57:06
a
57:06
blend
57:06
of
57:07
conventional
57:08
and
57:08
fly.
57:09
There'll
57:10
be
57:10
more
57:10
coming
57:10
on
57:10
that,
57:11
but
57:11
if
57:11
you
57:11
check
57:11
out
57:12
Instagram,
57:12
I'm
57:12
sure
57:13
you'll
57:13
see
57:13
the
57:13
little
57:13
drops
57:14
we've
57:14
been
57:14
doing
57:14
on
57:14
the
57:14
stories
57:15
of
57:16
who's
57:16
coming.
57:17
And
57:18
yeah,
57:18
it's
57:18
just
57:18
going
57:18
to
57:18
be
57:19
our
57:19
take
57:19
on
57:20
and
57:20
you
57:21
know,
57:21
the
57:21
spring
57:21
show
57:22
that,
57:23
that
57:23
third
57:23
weekend
57:24
in
57:24
March
57:24
is
57:24
kind
57:25
of
57:25
right
57:26
when
57:26
we
57:26
start
57:26
guiding,
57:27
right
57:27
when
57:28
you
57:28
know,
57:29
your,
57:29
your
57:29
average
57:30
angler
57:30
is
57:30
kind
57:31
of
57:31
starting
57:31
to
57:31
think
57:32
about
57:32
it
57:32
and
57:34
you
57:34
know,
57:35
it's
57:35
just
57:35
a
57:35
great
57:35
time
57:36
of
57:36
year
57:36
to
57:37
knock
57:38
the
57:38
dust
57:38
off
57:38
and
57:39
start
57:39
thinking
57:39
fishing
57:40
because
57:40
you
57:40
know,
57:41
the
57:41
best
57:41
fishing
57:42
of
57:42
the
57:42
year
57:42
in
57:42
my
57:42
opinion
57:43
around
57:43
here
57:43
when
57:43
it
57:43
comes
57:44
to
57:44
bass
57:44
is
57:45
that
57:45
April,
57:45
May
57:46
window,
57:46
you
57:46
know.
57:47
So
57:48
March
57:48
21st
57:49
there'll
57:49
be
57:49
an
57:49
event
57:49
here
57:50
consist
57:51
of
57:51
both
57:51
conventional
57:52
and
57:53
fly
57:53
fishing
57:54
reps,
57:55
conventional
57:56
and
57:56
fly
57:57
fishing
57:57
anglers,
57:58
talent,
57:59
guys
57:59
that
57:59
are
57:59
coming
58:00
from
58:00
the
58:00
fly
58:00
game
58:01
that
58:01
you
58:01
guys
58:01
may
58:02
recognize.
58:03
Alex
58:03
Lafkus,
58:04
Chris
58:04
Willen,
58:06
Russ
58:06
Maddin's
58:07
coming,
58:08
obviously
58:08
our
58:08
crew
58:09
of
58:09
guides
58:09
and
58:09
whatnot.
58:10
But
58:10
it's
58:10
going
58:10
to
58:10
be
58:11
a
58:11
similar
58:11
vibe
58:12
to
58:12
Bobbin
58:13
and
58:13
we
58:13
hope
58:14
to
58:14
build
58:14
on
58:14
it
58:14
and
58:15
take
58:15
it
58:15
from
58:15
a
58:15
one
58:15
day
58:16
show
58:16
to
58:16
maybe
58:17
a
58:17
two
58:17
or
58:17
three
58:17
day
58:17
show
58:19
down
58:19
the
58:19
road.
58:20
So
58:21
that'll
58:21
be
58:21
the
58:21
big
58:21
one
58:22
for
58:22
us.
58:22
And
58:22
then
58:22
we
58:22
are
58:23
taking
58:24
the
58:24
whole
58:25
spring
58:26
and
58:26
summer
58:26
off
58:26
from
58:27
events
58:27
and
58:27
we
58:27
won't
58:27
really
58:28
do
58:28
anything
58:28
around
58:28
here
58:29
again
58:29
until
58:30
our
58:30
fall
58:30
kickoff
58:31
event
58:31
in
58:32
September.
58:33
Gotcha.
58:34
And
58:34
before
58:34
I
58:34
let
58:34
you
58:34
hop
58:35
this
58:35
evening,
58:35
Mike,
58:35
anything
58:36
else
58:36
you
58:36
want
58:36
to
58:36
share
58:36
with
58:36
our
58:37
listeners?
58:38
No,
58:38
just
58:38
thanks
58:39
for
58:39
the
58:39
time,
58:40
Marvin.
58:40
Thanks
58:40
for
58:41
getting
58:42
all
58:42
this
58:42
stuff,
58:43
you
58:43
know,
58:43
kind
58:43
of
58:44
documented.
58:44
It's,
58:45
you
58:45
know,
58:46
obviously
58:46
a
58:46
lot
58:46
of
58:46
things
58:46
have
58:47
changed
58:47
in
58:47
our
58:47
industry
58:48
and
58:48
things
58:48
are
58:48
coming,
58:49
coming
58:49
at
58:50
us
58:50
faster
58:50
than
58:51
ever
58:51
on
58:51
the
58:51
social
58:52
medias
58:52
and
58:52
whatnot.
58:53
And
58:53
it's
58:53
fun
58:54
to
58:54
go
58:54
back
58:54
and
58:54
think
58:54
about
58:55
simpler
58:56
times
58:56
even
58:57
though
58:57
it
58:57
was
58:57
only
58:57
15
58:58
years
58:58
ago.
58:59
You
59:00
know,
59:00
having
59:00
to
59:00
source
59:00
the
59:01
materials
59:01
and
59:01
how
59:02
much
59:02
things
59:02
have
59:02
changed
59:03
and
59:04
you
59:04
know,
59:04
mutual
59:04
friends
59:05
of
59:05
ours,
59:05
how
59:05
much
59:05
they've
59:06
influenced
59:07
the
59:07
way
59:07
we
59:08
tie
59:08
and
59:08
the
59:08
way
59:08
we
59:09
angle
59:09
these
59:10
days.
59:10
It's,
59:11
it's
59:11
cool
59:11
to
59:11
reflect
59:12
and
59:12
think
59:12
about
59:12
it.
59:14
Yeah,
59:14
man,
59:14
it's,
59:15
it's,
59:16
it's
59:16
a
59:16
great,
59:17
it's
59:17
been
59:17
a
59:17
great
59:18
ride
59:18
and
59:18
I
59:18
look
59:19
forward
59:19
to
59:19
doing
59:19
this
59:19
for
59:19
many,
59:20
many
59:20
years.
59:21
Yeah,
59:21
there
59:21
you
59:21
go.
59:21
And
59:21
you
59:22
know,
59:22
what's
59:22
the
59:22
best
59:22
way,
59:22
Mike,
59:23
for
59:23
folks
59:23
to
59:23
kind
59:23
of
59:24
follow
59:24
your
59:24
adventures
59:25
at
59:25
the
59:25
vice,
59:25
at
59:25
the
59:26
shop,
59:26
or
59:26
on
59:26
the
59:26
water?
59:27
Yeah,
59:28
so
59:28
if
59:28
you're
59:28
on
59:29
Instagram,
59:29
just
59:29
Schultz
59:30
Outfitters,
59:31
Facebook,
59:32
just
59:32
Schultz
59:32
Outfitters.
59:33
And
59:33
then
59:34
if
59:34
you're
59:34
a
59:34
customer
59:35
of
59:35
the
59:35
shop,
59:35
we,
59:36
we
59:36
throw
59:36
some
59:36
stuff
59:37
up
59:37
on
59:37
the
59:37
Schultz
59:37
Outfitters
59:38
customer
59:39
forum.
59:40
So
59:40
if
59:40
you
59:41
request
59:42
to
59:42
be
59:42
in
59:42
on
59:43
that,
59:43
it's
59:43
a,
59:43
it's
59:43
an
59:44
ever
59:44
growing
59:44
community
59:45
at
59:45
this
59:45
point
59:45
since
59:45
we
59:46
got
59:46
a
59:46
whole
59:46
bunch
59:46
of
59:46
new
59:46
friends
59:47
with
59:47
the
59:47
E.
59:47
Comm.
59:47
But
59:48
if
59:48
you
59:48
request
59:49
to
59:49
be
59:49
a
59:49
member
59:50
and
59:50
we
59:50
cross
59:51
reference
59:51
and
59:51
see
59:51
that
59:52
you
59:52
actually
59:52
purchase
59:52
things
59:53
from
59:53
the
59:53
store
59:53
and
59:54
you're
59:54
not
59:54
some
59:54
robot
59:55
or
59:56
troll,
59:57
we'll
59:58
let
59:58
you
59:58
in.
59:59
But
59:59
there's
59:59
a
59:59
lot
59:59
of
59:59
stuff
1:00:00
that
1:00:00
kind
1:00:00
of
1:00:00
hits
1:00:00
that
1:00:00
first
1:00:01
kind
1:00:01
of.
1:00:02
We've
1:00:02
kind
1:00:02
of
1:00:02
established
1:00:03
a
1:00:03
little
1:00:04
thing
1:00:04
on
1:00:04
there
1:00:04
called
1:00:05
custies.
1:00:05
Get
1:00:05
it
1:00:05
first.
1:00:06
And
1:00:06
that's
1:00:07
kind
1:00:07
of
1:00:07
the
1:00:07
first
1:00:07
place
1:00:08
to
1:00:08
get
1:00:08
the
1:00:08
news
1:00:08
before
1:00:09
classes
1:00:10
get
1:00:10
offered
1:00:10
to
1:00:10
the
1:00:10
general
1:00:10
public
1:00:11
or
1:00:11
events
1:00:12
get
1:00:12
offered
1:00:12
to
1:00:13
the
1:00:13
general
1:00:13
public.
1:00:13
So
1:00:13
that's
1:00:14
the
1:00:14
Schultz
1:00:14
Outfitters
1:00:15
customer
1:00:15
form.
1:00:17
Yeah,
1:00:17
and
1:00:17
that's
1:00:17
about
1:00:17
it,
1:00:17
man.
1:00:18
Nick's
1:00:18
gonna
1:00:18
be
1:00:18
hitting
1:00:18
it
1:00:18
hard
1:00:19
with
1:00:19
the,
1:00:19
with
1:00:20
the
1:00:20
YouTube
1:00:20
and
1:00:21
social
1:00:21
media
1:00:21
stuff
1:00:22
this
1:00:22
year.
1:00:22
So
1:00:23
look
1:00:23
for
1:00:23
us
1:00:23
to
1:00:24
be
1:00:24
a
1:00:24
little
1:00:24
more
1:00:24
aggressive
1:00:25
on
1:00:25
there
1:00:25
and
1:00:26
be
1:00:26
throwing
1:00:26
out
1:00:26
some,
1:00:27
some
1:00:28
nuggets
1:00:28
of
1:00:28
info
1:00:29
and
1:00:29
cool
1:00:29
stuff
1:00:30
that,
1:00:30
you
1:00:30
know,
1:00:30
kind
1:00:31
of
1:00:31
has
1:00:32
come
1:00:32
out
1:00:32
of
1:00:33
our
1:00:33
camp
1:00:33
here
1:00:33
in
1:00:34
southern
1:00:34
Michigan.
1:00:35
Very
1:00:36
neat.
1:00:36
Well,
1:00:36
I'll
1:00:36
drop
1:00:36
links
1:00:37
to
1:00:37
all
1:00:37
that
1:00:37
stuff
1:00:37
in
1:00:37
the
1:00:38
show
1:00:38
notes.
1:00:39
Awesome,
1:00:39
brother.
1:00:39
Well,
1:00:40
thank
1:00:40
you
1:00:40
so
1:00:40
much
1:00:40
for
1:00:40
your
1:00:40
time,
1:00:41
man.
1:00:41
Absolutely.
1:00:42
Take
1:00:42
care.
1:00:42
See
1:00:42
you
1:00:43
soon.
1:00:43
See
1:00:44
you
1:00:44
brother.
1:00:45
Well,
1:00:45
folks,
1:00:45
we
1:00:45
hope
1:00:46
you
1:00:46
enjoyed
1:00:46
the
1:00:46
interview
1:00:47
as
1:00:47
much
1:00:47
as
1:00:47
we
1:00:47
enjoyed
1:00:48
bringing
1:00:48
it
1:00:48
to
1:00:48
you.
1:00:49
Before
1:00:50
we
1:00:50
leave
1:00:50
you,
1:00:50
one
1:00:51
more
1:00:51
thing.
1:00:51
If
1:00:51
you
1:00:52
listen
1:00:52
to
1:00:52
the
1:00:52
podcast,
1:00:53
you
1:00:53
know
1:00:53
about
1:00:53
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1:00:54
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1:00:54
you
1:00:55
fish
1:00:55
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1:00:55
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1:00:56
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1:00:56
owe
1:00:56
it
1:00:56
yourself
1:00:57
to
1:00:57
check
1:00:57
out
1:00:57
its
1:00:57
sister
1:00:58
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1:00:58
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1:00:58
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1:00:59
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1:01:01
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1:01:01
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1:01:01
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1:01:01
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1:01:02
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1:01:02
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1:01:02
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1:01:02
new
1:01:03
places
1:01:03
to
1:01:03
fish.
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1:01:05
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1:01:05
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1:01:05
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1:01:05
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1:01:06
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1:01:06
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1:01:06
abundance,
1:01:07
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1:01:08
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1:01:08
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1:01:08
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1:01:08
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1:01:09
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1:01:09
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1:01:10
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1:01:10
you
1:01:10
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1:01:10
show
1:01:11
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1:01:11
with
1:01:11
a
1:01:11
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1:01:11
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1:01:11
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1:01:12
as
1:01:12
many
1:01:12
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1:01:13
plans
1:01:13
as
1:01:13
you
1:01:13
want.
1:01:14
Make
1:01:14
the
1:01:15
most
1:01:15
of
1:01:15
your
1:01:15
time
1:01:15
on
1:01:15
the
1:01:15
water.
1:01:16
Head
1:01:16
over
1:01:16
to
1:01:16
onxmaps.com
1:01:18
today.
1:01:19
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1:01:19
remember,
1:01:20
links
1:01:20
to
1:01:20
all
1:01:21
this
1:01:21
episode's
1:01:21
sponsors
1:01:22
are
1:01:22
in
1:01:22
the
1:01:22
show
1:01:22
notes.
1:01:23
Check
1:01:24
them
1:01:24
out.
1:01:24
Fish
1:01:25
hard
1:01:25
folks.