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  Speaker 1: Chad Millman, chief content officer of the Action Network. Huge
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  Speaker 1: Show today, Huge, Huge Show. Last week was the NFL Draft.
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  Speaker 1: We were in Vegas. I did a live show from
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  Speaker 1: Vegas with Simon. Simon was too scared to go to Vegas.
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  Speaker 1: I went to Vegas. I came back with COVID. So
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  Speaker 1: That's why. But you know what, I'm a gamer. I
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  Speaker 1: do the podcast anyways. Doesn't matter that it feels like
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  Speaker 1: every time I swallow, I'm swallowing glass that has been
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  Speaker 1: broken and stepped on and paulverized. I don't care. I'm
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  Speaker 1: doing it anyways. On the next podcast, we're gonna do
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  Speaker 1: a very big breakdown about the draft, the players drafted,
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  Speaker 1: how it's impacting futures, how we want to think about
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  Speaker 1: teams in terms of division, um odds, conference odds, potential
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  Speaker 1: win totals. We're gonna talk about my interaction with Chris
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  Speaker 1: Long asking him about Joe O'Malley, which Simon wanted me
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  Speaker 1: to do because that's his brother in law, so him
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  Speaker 1: grew up together. Plus some other exciting interesting things that
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  Speaker 1: happened to me that it was honestly four and fifty
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  Speaker 1: thousand to one shot that this happened, and it happened
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  Speaker 1: to me. Um, we'll talk about that in the next
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  Speaker 1: episode because right now Simon might be ff my companion,
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  Speaker 1: my compadre, professional better Simon Hunter. In a minute, we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna bring on Leeboff, Michael Leeboff, one of your favorite people.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about the NHL playoffs, which started this week.
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  Speaker 1: How are you, buddy, good buddy. Yeah, that's that's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of a lot to impact. I'm excited to break
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  Speaker 1: it all down in the future episode. But of course
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  Speaker 1: we gotta get to Lord Stanley. All things stop Francille playoffs,
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  Speaker 1: which arguably, I mean, we'll get into it. People say
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  Speaker 1: it's the best playoffs. What do you think, chat is
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  Speaker 1: that your favorite playoffs? I'm more of a Baseball is
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  Speaker 1: my favorite, But what is NHL your favorite playoffs? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean, as much as NHL is my favorite anything,
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  Speaker 1: I guess that's gonna be. Uh. What I love most
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  Speaker 1: about the NHL. At the end of the day, my
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  Speaker 1: favorite sports bar none, NFL, NBA. Everything else for me
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  Speaker 1: is a much much distant third, fourth, fifth place, and
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  Speaker 1: I have staying in person to watch. You're just in general,
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  Speaker 1: like your general and so in general, so like the
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  Speaker 1: NBA playoffs to me have been astounding, not the first
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  Speaker 1: couple of games of the set of the semifinals, but
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  Speaker 1: in the beginning. Look, I was at the net Celtics game,
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  Speaker 1: on the floor for Tatum's game winning shot right in
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  Speaker 1: front of us, and we you know, videoed, and it
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  Speaker 1: was amazing. Um, these playoffs to me have been just wondrous.
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  Speaker 1: But I will say and lie Boff sort of introduced
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  Speaker 1: this to me, the the NHL playoffs are hard and
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  Speaker 1: and the intensity in these games is so heightened and
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  Speaker 1: this it almost sounds like they have mics in different
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  Speaker 1: places on the boards, right, Like the sound of the
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  Speaker 1: checking is harder, the sound of the skates is sharper,
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  Speaker 1: the sound of the puck against the board is sharper.
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  Speaker 1: All those things feel like it rings true in the
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  Speaker 1: NHL playoffs. Let's bring him in. Let's bring in Mike Lieboff,
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  Speaker 1: who is the well probably he's the best hockey analyst
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  Speaker 1: in the world at this point, and he's been in
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  Speaker 1: the podcast before talking about his love of the Islanders.
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  Speaker 1: Unfortunately they didn't make the playoffs. Pretty clear distinction between
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  Speaker 1: the haves and the have nots in the East this
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  Speaker 1: year leadoff Islanders being sort of the best of the
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  Speaker 1: worst and the havenots. I feel about these playoffs right now,
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  Speaker 1: other than the fact the Islanders aren't it, Yeah, I'm
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  Speaker 1: just dreading them basically on on every single level so far.
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  Speaker 1: When I went to in my last night, I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if I scored one goal. Combined the two teams
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  Speaker 1: I've been on, they lost combined tent to one. So
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  Speaker 1: we're up to a rip roaring start. But I would
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  Speaker 1: take that um every day. Over at the NBA playffs,
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you what teams are still in there.
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  Speaker 1: I think I can name five of the six team
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  Speaker 1: and NBA playoff teams this year just because they're always
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  Speaker 1: in it. I found out the Lakers are bad a
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  Speaker 1: couple of days ago UM from our producer, so that yeah,
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  Speaker 1: they just I don't I don't find them compelling at all.
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  Speaker 1: But the NHL, Yeah, sit back and even when my
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  Speaker 1: team's not in it. You just get engrossed with it
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  Speaker 1: and trying to get I mean, I've the Islanders have
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  Speaker 1: a couple of eternal rivals too, so that helps. And
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  Speaker 1: they're both in the playoffs, and the Rangers and may Believe,
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  Speaker 1: so you know, I'm a huge Penguins and Lightning fan,
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  Speaker 1: two teams that the Islanders played the playoffs last year,
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  Speaker 1: which is hilarious. It's the the old enemy of your
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  Speaker 1: enemy is your friend kind of thing. Was that sun
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  Speaker 1: Zoo who said that in his book War? Yeah? Um,
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  Speaker 1: and that definitely kind of sums up the NHL playoffs too, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's basically sun Zoo's Art of War. Every spring it's roight, man,
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  Speaker 1: it's totally rough. I do think that this was a
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  Speaker 1: really interesting year in the NHL highest scoring season we've
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  Speaker 1: had in decades. What do you think a counter for that? Uh? Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: it's high scoring season we've ever seen. And also in
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  Speaker 1: the salary cap era and also for the first time
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  Speaker 1: in decades, favorites had their best season ever, which was
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  Speaker 1: not good for me either. So the league kind of
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  Speaker 1: had a paradigm shift. I think, like during the pandemic,
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  Speaker 1: where the teams that knew they were going to be
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  Speaker 1: bad for the season's coming out of the pandemic, where
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  Speaker 1: going full you know, Pittsburgh pirates, let's just try to
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  Speaker 1: lose doesn't really happen in the NHL, I don't think
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  Speaker 1: as much as in other sports normally. Um, there's usually
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  Speaker 1: a pretty big, mushy middle. And this time, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: it was has and have snots and and then the Islanders,
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  Speaker 1: who kind of played a schedule at tune to like
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  Speaker 1: an independent you don't have. Sometimes a college basketball a
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  Speaker 1: team will be like, hey, we're jump into Division one.
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  Speaker 1: Now we'll play in this division, but we can't qualify
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  Speaker 1: for the postseason. Um. I think Bryant did it a
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  Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Uh, the Islanders kind of played
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  Speaker 1: that sort of schedule, like they stopped started the first
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  Speaker 1: thirteen games on the road. Um, they had like four
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  Speaker 1: games between games, and then they play it back to back.
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  Speaker 1: Then they come home. Then they fled Arizona. Then they
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  Speaker 1: got COVID really bad. The league didn't shut them down,
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  Speaker 1: and then they shut down all the other teams that
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  Speaker 1: had COVID. So then the Islanders played a jam packed
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  Speaker 1: you know, second half, most compact schedule in NHL history.
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  Speaker 1: So they were just playing in a different league. It
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  Speaker 1: felt like too, because they're out of touch both the
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  Speaker 1: haves and the have snots have not so that, uh,
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  Speaker 1: that kind of summed up their season and they being
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  Speaker 1: they were literally the only team at the Eastern Conference
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  Speaker 1: in that that bushing middle. So it was just a
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  Speaker 1: very strange season event nhil hockey, And mercifully it's over
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  Speaker 1: and now we have to deal with the marathon, the
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  Speaker 1: second marathon, which is the playoffs. Yeah, the scoring is
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  Speaker 1: up in every sport, isn't that? Isn't that the key
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  Speaker 1: to all these sports? Now, Basketball, the three exchange everything.
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  Speaker 1: NFL they don't call the pen they don't call penalties
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  Speaker 1: anymore on offense. So the NFL scoring more. Baseball is
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  Speaker 1: the only one that's like, you know what, let's bring
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  Speaker 1: in the unifiers and change the baseball so there's no scoring.
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  Speaker 1: So I like you with hockey, like I didn't say it.
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  Speaker 1: Where again, my favorite playoffs might be baseball. That's just
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  Speaker 1: because I like the drama baseball, but hockey, to me,
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  Speaker 1: only Premier League in my opinion, is the best, a
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  Speaker 1: better sport to watch in person. Hockey in person, there's
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  Speaker 1: something about the ice and these guys ice skating on weapons. Um,
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  Speaker 1: it's just a really there's something really romantic about hockey
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  Speaker 1: and playoff hockey itself. I mean, it's the best going
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  Speaker 1: to a playoff game in person for hockey, and there's
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  Speaker 1: nothing like it. So I'm heartbroken and for leave offter
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  Speaker 1: about his team, But I have the first team I
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  Speaker 1: have to talk about. Chat has gotta be the Ice Cats,
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  Speaker 1: the Florida Panthers. This team hundred twenty two points. I
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  Speaker 1: guess no one really cares about them outside of Florida,
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  Speaker 1: but I care as a hockey fan because they always choke.
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  Speaker 1: This is my favorite thing about sports is it doesn't matter.
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  Speaker 1: These teams have no connection to that previous team that
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  Speaker 1: went to Stanley Cup finals for the Florida Panthers, But
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  Speaker 1: some reason, all their fans are like, we're gonna lose
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  Speaker 1: around one. We're gonna choke to the Capitols, gonna get
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  Speaker 1: a worst matchup of of a Vetchkan team. Leave Off
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  Speaker 1: how you how you viewing this series? Are we taking
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  Speaker 1: the dog in this series or is it the Panthers
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  Speaker 1: time to shine? Yeah? I think from a betting perspective, Washington,
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  Speaker 1: it's a team to go with right, like getting three
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  Speaker 1: to one on on a team that is really clinical
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  Speaker 1: in uh In in front of their the opposing netlik
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  Speaker 1: with ovechkin In and their playmakers t j Osh Nicholas
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  Speaker 1: backs from these are all guys chat Chat knows all
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  Speaker 1: all too well, right, But they're they're kind of built
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  Speaker 1: to CounterPunch and that's what they'll need to do against
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers, who just owned the puck whenever they're out there.
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  Speaker 1: And I actually think it's funny that the perception of
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  Speaker 1: the Panthers is is really interesting because, like you said,
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  Speaker 1: they're the butt of a lot of jokes in the
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  Speaker 1: in the NHL, especially from fans in big markets like
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  Speaker 1: Toronto Montreal. The Snowbirds always love to go to those
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  Speaker 1: games in the winter, like their they vacation down there,
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  Speaker 1: rich Canadian people and and they show up like you'll
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  Speaker 1: get Canucks Panthers game in February and be packed with
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  Speaker 1: Canucks fans from I don't know, eight thousand miles away
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  Speaker 1: that is. But this season, this team is just they've
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  Speaker 1: been the best neutral UH team to watch from a
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  Speaker 1: neutral standpoint. They play, they they're overs, especially at home.
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  Speaker 1: We're incredibly profitable. They just were scoring at will. It
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  Speaker 1: seemed like they've come back from like five one down
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  Speaker 1: and a couple of different games, and so they are
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  Speaker 1: incredibly easy on the eye. And they have the game
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  Speaker 1: tonight against the Capitals. Game one should the atmosphere should
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  Speaker 1: be awesome because you know, kind of like the Islanders,
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  Speaker 1: it's a small fan base down there, but they love
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  Speaker 1: their Panthers, the ones that show up. Can you imagine
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  Speaker 1: being a hockey fan that grew up in you know,
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  Speaker 1: the suburbs of Miami, Like you're you're probably the only
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  Speaker 1: one of you in your neighborhood. So when you get
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  Speaker 1: to go to the game and you see someone else
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  Speaker 1: who cares about this team for some reason that plays
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  Speaker 1: in the National Hockey League and has for you know,
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  Speaker 1: almost thirty years, now, you know that's your that's your
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  Speaker 1: your family member, basically, that's uh, you know, a member
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  Speaker 1: of your tribe. And we'll see some rats on the ice,
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  Speaker 1: which is always fun. I don't know if you guys
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  Speaker 1: know that tradition with the Panthers from from Scott Mellan
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  Speaker 1: by a rat during their playoff runing their first year
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  Speaker 1: ever they went to the Stanley Cup finals. First or
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  Speaker 1: second year in ninety six they lost the Avalanche and
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  Speaker 1: um right during the middle part of that season or
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  Speaker 1: beginning of that season, a rat ran across the locker
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  Speaker 1: room in the old I think it's called like the
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  Speaker 1: Miami Ice Garden or something, and Scott mellan be on
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  Speaker 1: that team, killed the rat. And from that point on,
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  Speaker 1: whenever the Panthers have a big wind, or you know,
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  Speaker 1: someone scores a hat trick, or just like before a
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  Speaker 1: big game, you'll just see a bunch of plastic rats
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  Speaker 1: get thrown on the ice, which is, you know, something
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  Speaker 1: I've always loved. I would love to take someone from
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  Speaker 1: like when I was areas and be like, hey, come
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  Speaker 1: to this Panthers game with me and see if they can,
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  Speaker 1: you know, try to explain to them why are there,
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  Speaker 1: why are these people throwing rats? Because it's just such
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  Speaker 1: a strange, strange tradition. I had an uber driver in
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  Speaker 1: Vegas the night the morning I was leaving what is
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  Speaker 1: now known as the trip wor Chad got COVID and
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  Speaker 1: UM and yet is gamely moving through his day and
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  Speaker 1: his meetings and participating as a professional, and he ran through.
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  Speaker 1: He had emigrated to the United States, I think from Cuba,
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  Speaker 1: and spent the majority of his life in Florida and
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  Speaker 1: then moved to Vegas for a job. The job didn't
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  Speaker 1: work out, he was still living in Vegas. We ran
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  Speaker 1: through the Ready Creek UH community and how the laws
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  Speaker 1: dictate what Disney Cannon cannot do and the billion dollars
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  Speaker 1: in debt relief they are due and who's going to
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  Speaker 1: pay for that? In Orange and Osciola County to my
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  Speaker 1: home where I live now, West Hartford, Connecticut. Because he
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  Speaker 1: asked me where I was going and I said Connecticut.
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  Speaker 1: He goes Hertford, I go West Hartford. He goes, oh yeah,
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  Speaker 1: my daughter went to school there. And then um through
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  Speaker 1: we passed the Golden Knights arena and we talked. Then
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  Speaker 1: we were talking about the Golden Knights. He loves going
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  Speaker 1: to the Golden Knights. He and and how um but
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  Speaker 1: he really loves going to Panther games and that's his team.
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  Speaker 1: And what a great year they had. This guy knew everything.
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  Speaker 1: He was like the Cliff clevelnd of Uber Drivers. He
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  Speaker 1: was a true renaissance man. I hope the Cliff alma
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  Speaker 1: mater of my my college. That's right, Bridge Court, Connecticut
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  Speaker 1: native Cliff Cleven that's right, that's right. It all comes
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  Speaker 1: back to to leave off. Um, the point is the
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  Speaker 1: Florida Panthers best team in hockey. Uh, they are not
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  Speaker 1: favored to win the Stanley Cup title. That would be
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  Speaker 1: the Colorado Avalanche, who you just mentioned as having beaten
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  Speaker 1: them in their only Stanley Cup final appearance. What's the
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  Speaker 1: delio there, leaf, Yeah, the Panthers are their team that
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  Speaker 1: tries to outscore you, which that game sometimes doesn't translate
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  Speaker 1: all that well in the NHL playoffs, which, like you
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  Speaker 1: kind of mentioned before, it's it's tighter checking, it's harder,
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  Speaker 1: the space on the ice gets gets eaten up. Refs
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  Speaker 1: tend to swallow their whistle a little bit more. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 1: the the Avalanche, I think they finished what three points
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  Speaker 1: adrift of Florida this regular season, and they were dealing
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  Speaker 1: with injuries to key players all season. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: this team, if they were fully healthy, was probably they
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  Speaker 1: probably lost like thirteen and fourteen points just through through
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  Speaker 1: injuries and stuff like that. So they're clearly the best team,
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  Speaker 1: uh in the NHL. But like you know, Simon was
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  Speaker 1: saying before, there are some kodus around around the playoffs
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  Speaker 1: time and the Avalanches is that they can't get past
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  Speaker 1: the second round. And like you said, this version of
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  Speaker 1: the Avalanche has nothing to do with the versions that
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  Speaker 1: have had trouble advancing in the year's past. Um, but
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  Speaker 1: they will have a tough second round matchup against the
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  Speaker 1: Blues or the Wild. So it's just like when you
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  Speaker 1: get to that like final eight in the in the NHL,
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  Speaker 1: it's but the margin between the teams is just so fine,
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  Speaker 1: whereas I think in other sports, like you know, the
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  Speaker 1: NBA and don't like if the Hawks are playing the
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  Speaker 1: Lakers or wherever else is good, um, I think that
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  Speaker 1: the gap is just so much wider. And you're talking
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  Speaker 1: about it a sport that has um. You know, scoring
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  Speaker 1: events are are there's a lot of scoring events in
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  Speaker 1: the in the NBA, whereas in the NHL or soccer
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  Speaker 1: there's not. So if you don't convert those opportunities and
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  Speaker 1: the other team does, you're gonna lose and no matter
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  Speaker 1: how well you played. So there's just like the margin
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  Speaker 1: for error in in hockey, especially when you're playing another
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  Speaker 1: good team in the best of seven, is just so thin.
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  Speaker 1: So that's why you know, I hate betting favorites. Uh.
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  Speaker 1: In terms of especially in terms of futures. And I
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't really be surprised if if Colorado has trouble next
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  Speaker 1: round with with either St. Louis or or Minnesota. Listen
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  Speaker 1: that that Ray Bork is a pretty great defenseman. I
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  Speaker 1: feel like with him on their side, they got a
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  Speaker 1: pretty good shot. Right. Well, that was that was the
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  Speaker 1: ESPN s Hey that were you at? You probably at
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  Speaker 1: ESPN when when Ray Bourk went to the Avalanche to
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  Speaker 1: win that Cup. Totally remember him getting from the Bruins
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  Speaker 1: to to go get that cup and what a thrill
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  Speaker 1: it was for everybody in sports. They retired his number
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  Speaker 1: in Colorado, I think despite just playing that part of
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  Speaker 1: one season there and winning the Stanley Cup. So yeah,
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  Speaker 1: good for Ray, I guess. But um yeah, that that
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  Speaker 1: that Gary Thorne calls is iconic. So when the NHL
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: went back to ESPN for for the season and ESPN
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  Speaker 1: Plus and all that, you heard it in like all
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  Speaker 1: the season opening montage just was was Gary Thorne saying
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  Speaker 1: Raymond Burke uh and it's uh, we didn't get the
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  Speaker 1: We didn't get the full on nostalgia effect from ESPN
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  Speaker 1: going back to them, Like they didn't really they played
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: into it, but not that much. And also I have
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: a question, Um, I don't understand this phenomenon with sports
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: now that these broadcast booths are being filled with people
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: who aren't played by play people like the NHL that
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: has John buch Gross calling playoff games. He's not very
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: he's not doing a very good job, like yeah, and
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: he didn't do a good job in the regular season
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: because he's not how a play by play guy, right?
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: Why not just use a play by play guy to
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: do that? Because at the whole point you show up
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: to watch these games, you're trying to watch the game.
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: I don't care who's calling the game as long as
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: they they're doing their job. I'm not gonna tune in because,
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: oh John bucchi Gross is calling this game. He's he's
• 17:40
  Speaker 1: a young whipper snapper, Like I want to watch the
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: hockey game and have it told to me by professional.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: I don't care if it's like the minor league guy
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: from Rockford, Illinois who's calling like the HL games there. Um,
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: And I think that these networks have this this preconceived
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: notion about fans that like they're gonna think it's really
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: cool that we have Katie Nolan calling an MLB Baseball
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: game when you know she's not a play by play person,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: so it's it's it's not gonna work out. Here's what
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: you need to understand about television executives. This goes for
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: studio shows. This goes for broadcast booths. They believe that
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: whoever is hosting the show, whoever is the analyst for
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: the show, whoever is in the play by play booth,
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: that's the most important thing in the world, because that's
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: what they're working on. They don't get that the only
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: people who care about studio shows are them and the
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: league's they're servicing. The only people who care about what's
• 18:36
  Speaker 1: happening pregame in the NFL, pregame in NBA are the
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: league executives who have to be responsible for the relationship
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: with their broadcast partners, and the television executive themselves. No
• 18:47
  Speaker 1: one else gives a fuck. I think for the play
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: I play, I think that matters a little bit more
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Like you'll see Trey Aikman and Joe Buck them being
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: in the booth likely gives ESPN a better broadcast schedule, right.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: It brings more gravitas to Monday night football. You get
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: a better broadcast schedule, then all of a sudden you
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: can make more on the commercials on that job. Right,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: Like the sponsorship levels, the dollars go up incrementally. I'm
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: gonna pay for the hundred and four million dollars they're
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: paying for Joe Buck and Troy Hickman by a virtue
• 19:20
  Speaker 1: of getting a better schedule and then getting higher sponsorship dollars.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: That's when it matters. But like mostly Moon gives a
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: fun yeah. And the people who do actually are the
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: ones that are just watching the game, right, And they're
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: not gonna say, oh, this is an incredible play by
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: play performance. They're gonna say, uh, this one sucks. It's there,
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: there no one. It's like refereeing, Like nobody leaves the
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: arena saying those rests are fantastic tonight. They say they
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: sucked or they don't mention them at all. And they think.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: It's the same thing with play by playing people. And
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I guess, for some reason, whoever is booking these things,
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: like I guess, like you said, like they're doing it
• 19:52
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• 19:54
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• 21:57
  Speaker 1: We don't talk about Canada. People will say, you guys,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: never talking about Canada. Nothing against Canada. Love that Vladim
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: Greyer Jr. He's the man. Okay, I might hate the Raptors,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: And now I'm thinking I really do hate the Raptors.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: They've affected my life. That was a Philadelphia fan leave off.
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: Who am I betting on from Canada? Am I taking
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Toronto or the Oilers? For real? Like I want to
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: get serious about that for a second. But we do
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: have to preface for people who don't know. John Taveri
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: is one of the greatest Islanders ever famously famously turned
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: his back on on the New York Islanders and went
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: to Toronto. In the entire time I have known Mike Leeboff,
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: his animosity for Taveras and the Maple Leafs has only grown.
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: The hatred he feels cannot be contained in a single podcast,
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: so I really do have to ask him, Like, the
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Leafs are ten to one right now to win the
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: Stanley Cup. That is, those are pretty short odds, probably
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: fourth lowest right now. After you know, you got the Panthers,
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: you got the Avs, I forgot who was next, and
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: then you got the the Maple Leaves. How are you
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: managing this? Not well? Not well at all? Like they
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: won last night. They looked good. Um they're a good team. Um.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Our producer of this podcast Matt Mitchell knows, like you know,
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: every night I just kind of will text him and
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: a couple of people in this group chat that are
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: hockey fans, one of whom is from Montreal doesn't like
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: the Leaves either. Um, and I just fret about. I mean,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: it's starting in god damn like maybe like December. I'm like,
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: this is the year that they're going to win the Cup.
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: And um, I always tell people from Toronto that are
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Maple Leafs fans that I really wouldn't care if the
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Maple Leafs win Stanley Cup, they go on a run
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: like went four or five in a row as long
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: as he's not there, right, because that just validates his
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: his decision, especially because the Islanders have had so much
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: success without him, which people did not think was coming.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And Uh, your your boys over at dead spin, On
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: famously wrote an article previewing the season right after he left,
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: was like ranking the thirty one NHL teams from best
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: to Islanders. And then that year Barry Shots came in
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: and the Islanders went to a great uh on a
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: great run it against the odds, and they've been stable
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: since then this this year notwithstanding. So it's been validating
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: from that point to know that, like we didn't really
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: need him, um, and now that he is on this team,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: which you know, he's not the focal point of this team.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: They have incredible players like Austin Matthews are gonna win
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: the m v P. Mitch Marner's incredible, they have a
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: deep defense. Now. UM, so it's it's a little frightening,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: but he's he's a bit part player. But I don't
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: take any solace in that, like if he's if he
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: wins as the captain of the leaves, um, that that
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: will be a nightmare for me. And uh, I'm dreading
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: it big time. So yeah, but I'm like, they're good.
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: I think honestly, ten to one is probably right about
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: fair for their for their odds, especially since they one
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: game one. But but to move on from that, and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: I'm trying to my to do my best in general
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: to move on from that. Um to answer I'm his question,
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: I think the Oilers still are are worth a shot.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Like they lost last night, uh to the to the
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: Kings in game one, but they've been a really good team.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: And on our hockey betting podcast, Line Change, which you
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: can listen to every Monday Wednesday, and Friday morning during
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: this part of the playoffs, my co host known as
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: so many Sports, has been banging the drum on the
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: Oilers for a long time, and they made a coaching change.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: They've they've had a really good new manager bounce Uh
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and their their results are not a fluke right like,
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: their defense is improved and they're getting good goaltending, which
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: is what they usually don't get and why they flame out.
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: Like Simon was mentioning before with with other teams having
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: trouble getting the monkey off their back in terms of
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: playoff performances, like the Least are definitely one of them.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: They have an advanced past the first round since two
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: thousand and four and the Oilers with Connor McDavid have
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: done it once in his career um and they were
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: slept in the first round last year. Is a big favorite.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: So the problem has been the goaltending and forty year
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: old Mike Smith has been really good this season. And
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: he I mean, I know you you probably won't know
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: who he is, but he's just he's a journeyman goalie
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: who for some reason the Oilers keep going back to
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: despite his inconsistent season. He's he's an absolute maniac, but
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: he's he's been good in in in his age forty season.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: And then last night, you know, finally gets everybody on board,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: saying like this guy is gonna do it, Like he
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: looks like he's informed going into the playoffs for the
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: first time and god knows how long, and he laid
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: a dot in game one, which was horrifying. Uh, because
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: I bet the oiler. I was betting the oilers with
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: my buddy, so money, and uh, but I'm still believing
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: in them, which is probably not a good idea. So Uh.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: In the NBA, would you hate? They're just I don't.
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: I don't actively. I just don't find it entertaining. I
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: don't find it entertaining at all. Dude. It's I just
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: I could I choose to kind of ignore it more
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: than like, I don't go out of my way to
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: hate it. I think when people say, oh, you hate
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: the n B A that sounds like I'm like going
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: around and like yelling at people, being like, how can
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: you like the sport? I'm just saying I like to
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: ignore it completely. So in the NBA, which you pretend
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: doesn't exist, there is a famous theory called the zig
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: zag theory in which you used to bet the opposite
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: side of the results from the night before, and then
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: bookmakers eventually caught onto it and and sort of have
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: adjusted lines over the past decade to uh to combat
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: this exact theory. Is there an NHL version of the
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: zig zag theory sort of speak, I guess, like, for example, tonight,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: the Avalanche they're big favorites against the Predators, the Flames
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: are big favorites against the Stars. Let's say those two
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: teams blow out the underdogs, I mean the Panthers and
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: the Capitals. You will see like a big overadjustment h
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: for game two based on on the score from Game one.
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: So let's say you know that I think the Predators
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: right now like plus two sixty they lose six one
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: tonight to the Avalanche. They might close like three to
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: one in game two, and right there, that tells you
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: you're getting forty cents of value because the betting market
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: already told you how these two teams should close right there.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Playing in the same venue. Injuries, of course, like if
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: there's an injury or whatever. This this point is mood,
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: but like it's if it's the same rosters in the
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: same venue playing each other forty eight hours later, didn't
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: the market already tell us what this number is supposed
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: to be. UM, So you can you can have success
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: going that way, you know, backing teams off of blowouts
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: because you're going to get a better number, because better
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: is as we know, are are pretty reactionary cats. So, uh,
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: you can you can kind of strategize that way, I think,
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: and and some matchups that's just that's the phenomenon won't
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: happen Like the rangers of Penguins are really tight, that
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: the leaves and the lightning are really tight, So you
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: just won't see the markets really over adjust no matter
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: what the score from the previous game was. We've seen
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: that actually with with Boston and Tampa losing handling Game one,
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: that the numbers are not moving much from from where
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: they were. So in the right matchups you will you
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: will see that come to fruition. I think we got
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: to get your final picks. Where are you landing who's
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: gonna win? Give us your best odds, your give us
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: the team you think is gonna win, and give us
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: the team that, um you sort of think has the
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: most future value. UM. Well, first, I'm gonna use this
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: time to to pat myself on the back for betting
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: the Calgary Flames before the season to one there. I
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: think third favorite there, that team you couldn't remember. I
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: don't know if you even know that that team exists. Honestly,
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: their Calgary Flames. Dude, it's cal Gary and uh number one,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: number two. I will never forget the Calgary Flames because
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: when I was growing up, back when they didn't wear
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: helmets playing hockey, the Calgary Flames made the Stanley Cup.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: I think it was like the mid eighties, and you know,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: this is when young Blood came out. And so my
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: friends and I you'll see how cool we are. Like
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: at lunch, we would do fake hockey fights and like
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: pull each other's jerseys over our heads, and someone inevitably
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: pretended they were playing for Calgary. That's how we got
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: all the ladies. Yeah, this might have been like freshman
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: sophomore year and we'd say, like we'd be like, yo,
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: you want to go pretty boy? Because that's what they
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: said to Rob Low, right, let's go pretty boy. And
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: then like he had to prove it to Cynthia Gibb,
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: who you know, got a little naked in the uh
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: in the in the barn there and uh and those
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: were the days when we were loving hockey. Young Bud
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: has probably done more for for hockey than any sports
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: movie in the history of sports movies has done for
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: their particular sport. What a launching pad for careers. Rob
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: low Swazy was a Kano Reeves was in there, so like,
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: God blessed that movie. But yeah, the Flames. I think
• 30:54
  Speaker 1: the Flames are the team that I would pick to
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: come out of the West, but in turns and then
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: I like the Bruins to come out of the East.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: And I think the Bruins. They've lost game one of
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: their series, their plus one seventy right now in the
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: series line, and they're still around twenty one to win
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the Stanley Cup. The Bruins are really, really good. People
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: just haven't really been paying attention to them much because
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: the other three teams of their division kind of just
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: ran away from them right up the gates, and so
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: they were kind of just in the spot in there
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: that they ended up in the first wild card spot
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: all season. So they were very uninteresting from a narrative perspective,
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: but they're underlying metrics are quite good. They have the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: playoff pedigree, great defense and the goaltending failed them last night,
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: but for for the most part the season has been
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: above average. So I like Boston from a futures perspective.
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: I like Edmonton from a futures perspective at eighteen to one,
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: now that they've lost, I like them on their series
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: line minus one and a half. I like to minus
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: one and a half in Game two. Their team that
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: can get separation really easily. So those are the teams
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: I'm targeting mostly in terms of future value is Boston
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: and Edmonton. But I would pick Calgary to come out
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: of the West and Boston to come out of the East.
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: So I'm meeting at anything else. Yeah, I was gonna ask,
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: what what is the best hockey movie in the world? Well,
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: you can go first, what's your favorite hockey movie? Because
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: I just have thee pop in my head and while
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: we were talking, well, look, there's like the classic, which
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: is slap Shot. Obviously old time hockey, Old time hockey.
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: You're ruing. I love Young Blood even though I probably
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: haven't seen it in thirty years. Miracle screw this is
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: your time? Like Miracle is great, but to me, hockey
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: is so like I loved covering hockey dude. I covered
• 32:35
  Speaker 1: um the a h L team in Philadelphia that was
• 32:40
  Speaker 1: playing at the Spectrum after they had opened an right,
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: so much fun covering hockey. Like to me, hockey is
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: a sport. It's lyrical, it's romantic, it's a great story
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: to write about. It's a great story for television, a
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: great story for a great sport. For movies, the pantheon
• 32:57
  Speaker 1: of hockey movies is is outstanding. But it's hard to
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: top slap shot in young Block what you leave off.
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: You know, obviously grew up on Mighty Ducks. We lost
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: a few games tough. That was District five. Now we're
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: the Ducks. The Ducks are undefeated. But there was a
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: a movie called Manchester by the Sea that came out
• 33:23
  Speaker 1: a few years ago. Very heartbreaking movie, but there's a
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: hockey scene in that and it got me blocked by
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: a prominent NHL agent because there's this They show a
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: clip of the goaltender yarrowhole Lock, who played for the Islanders,
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: but they showed him playing for the Blues against the
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: Bruins and I was like, wow, yahhole Lock just killed
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: it in Manchester about to Sea. And this agent, Alan Walsh,
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  Speaker 1: he's very quick on the the trigger finger when it
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