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Giants extend Bob Melvin, Yordan out longer, Players most likely to be traded · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: As much as Dombrowski decimates farm systems, which I completely
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  Speaker 1: agree with, he isn't afraid of looking for guys that
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  Speaker 1: are not just rentals.
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  Speaker 2: Day three and the final day in Vegas for Foul Territory,
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  Speaker 2: full fledged baseball show, lots of great guests again with
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  Speaker 2: us done playing poker, flying out after this back on Tomorrow, Friday,
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  Speaker 2: July fourth, won't have a live show. Are we still alive?
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  Speaker 2: Seventy two hours in Vegas? Feeling a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: I didn't gamble, did you? I mean, the poker tournament
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  Speaker 3: was all I did. I didn't many hours, No, but
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  Speaker 3: I mean I didn't gamble. On top of that. On
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  Speaker 3: top of that, no, I enjoyed playing poker. It's really fun.
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  Speaker 3: But man, if I was still in today, I would.
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  Speaker 4: Be like, how you say poker is so fun because
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  Speaker 4: you sit at a table with seven other people and
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  Speaker 4: nobody speaks to each other. At the table, they hide
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  Speaker 4: their face, they have hat, sunglasses, and then they all.
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  Speaker 3: Put their shirt and they just sit there.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly how they did it on the team plane with
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  Speaker 2: the base.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, this is our table was so much fun.
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  Speaker 1: The table I had was so much fun because there
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  Speaker 1: was guys that nobody liked, and everybody else was joking
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  Speaker 1: with them. Nobody was like sunglasses, super focused, like we
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  Speaker 1: just we had a good time. We discussed hands, we
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  Speaker 1: talked about baseball, which I don't mind talking about.
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  Speaker 3: It was awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I had a great time. Sam got two new
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  Speaker 1: subscribers to fouts a story.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I had fun. I had a great time.
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  Speaker 4: But it's just weird to me when the people sit
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  Speaker 4: there and at one point, at one point, literally I
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  Speaker 4: was the big blind the next hand and the guy
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  Speaker 4: sitting next to me, and then he went. They were
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  Speaker 4: head up across from each other and the one you
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  Speaker 4: have the timer that counts down to the blinds go up. Yes,
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  Speaker 4: so they started. It was forty I remember I looked
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  Speaker 4: over my shoulders. Right, there was forty minutes, thirty two seconds.
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  Speaker 4: And the guy just stood with sunglasses, headphones and a
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  Speaker 4: hoodie and he just sat there.
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  Speaker 3: For three minutes, oh to get down, just to decide
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  Speaker 3: whether to play or not. Right, he just sat there
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  Speaker 3: and stared at the guy. Well, and I'm like, guy's
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  Speaker 3: already all in, Like you're either going in or or not.
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  Speaker 3: Another guy next week.
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  Speaker 4: You can say clock no, he called any lost, which
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  Speaker 4: I was too upset about.
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  Speaker 2: Fun fact, if you say clock, they'll bring the guy
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  Speaker 2: over and he says, you have thirty seconds starting now
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  Speaker 2: or your hand.
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  Speaker 3: Is dead, and he got out. I didn't care, but
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  Speaker 3: it was next time. Next time called clock on somebody
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  Speaker 3: and I want to see it.
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  Speaker 2: We had it twice at our table. One guy called
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  Speaker 2: clok then you're that guy, and I don't know. One
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  Speaker 2: guy called it on a guy okay, and then later
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  Speaker 2: on I was in bob obviously, but then I go
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  Speaker 2: all in and the guy who called clock is taking
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  Speaker 2: forever and they clocked him back, and they were like,
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  Speaker 2: feels so good.
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  Speaker 3: And you're like, thanks guys, thanks for sticking up for me.
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  Speaker 2: Exactly.
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  Speaker 3: I don't want to be that guy. No, I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 2: A J always is at the weird tables, maybe in
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  Speaker 2: general in life. So eventually, if you had too many
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  Speaker 2: weird tables in life, you have to go, is it.
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  Speaker 3: Moving a weirdo that was not tracked weirdos?
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  Speaker 4: I'm just sitting there minding my own business, don't I
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  Speaker 4: sit down. I messed up like three rules because the
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  Speaker 4: rules were different than every other poker turnam I ever played?
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  Speaker 4: Like how you had to put your chips, and one
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  Speaker 4: time I tried to. I tried to go all in
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  Speaker 4: one time, and because I had I had a water
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  Speaker 4: in my hand, and Scott's dad came up to me
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  Speaker 4: in the middle of it, and I'm like, I only
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  Speaker 4: pushed in some of my chips instead of all of
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  Speaker 4: my chips.
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  Speaker 3: I couldn't go all in.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, I'm blaming my dad for your dad cost me
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  Speaker 4: a thousand bucks.
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  Speaker 3: For real thousand.
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  Speaker 2: Tournament fifty k is what you start with. So one fifth.
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  Speaker 3: Of what you know, that's two percent of my net
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  Speaker 3: worths not Roberts.
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  Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
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  Speaker 3: So I was because he came up.
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  Speaker 4: To me and I wasn't and he's like, hey, as
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  Speaker 4: I'm like boo boop and people. The other problem is
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  Speaker 4: when you sit at these and these people are super serious,
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  Speaker 4: which is fine, we all are kind of serious, but
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  Speaker 4: the guy was, so there's a I was. I was
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  Speaker 4: in the corner, so I would have been like where
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  Speaker 4: Scott's sitting, and then there's a guy and then dealer,
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  Speaker 4: and then a guy over here. But the dealers leaning
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  Speaker 4: forward and they have to put their chips in, but
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  Speaker 4: they don't say anything, so you think he just calls,
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  Speaker 4: so I'm like, oh, yeah, I'll call that. He's like, no,
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  Speaker 4: he raised, and I'm like, well, I don't want to
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  Speaker 4: raise or I don't want to call it that twenty
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  Speaker 4: five thousand instead of my thousand.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, well, you just have to lose your chips.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, thanks, mister Braun.
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  Speaker 2: I think I haven't figured out. Kratz and me sit
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  Speaker 2: at a poker table and we find someone who's bubbly nice,
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  Speaker 2: maybe a baseball fan. AJ sits at the table and
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  Speaker 2: he's like, there's a weirdo here, and I Am going
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  Speaker 2: to talk to him and find out just how weird
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  Speaker 2: he is. Every table has an interesting, strange character too.
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  Speaker 2: I just usually don't converse much with them because they're
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  Speaker 2: in their own world. I can picture AJ sitting and Dan,
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  Speaker 2: why listen.
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  Speaker 3: To I don't say anything? Right, you don't say anything?
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  Speaker 3: What am I supposed to say? Nobody wants. There was
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  Speaker 3: one guy sitting next to me from New York, so
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  Speaker 3: we talked, but other than that, nobody else talk This guy,
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  Speaker 3: this guy on my left played with batanzas all the
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  Speaker 3: time in Borgada.
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  Speaker 2: There are many.
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  Speaker 4: And then the guy on my right played with kidness.
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  Speaker 4: Last time he was here at Aria, so he's like, oh.
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  Speaker 3: Well, territory is just permeating. But it was like he's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: how about He goes, oh, you do a baseball show.
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  Speaker 3: How about you have this what about baseball poker player?
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, oh, who you got?
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  Speaker 4: I thought he was gonna say himself and he goes, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I played with this guy. He was a second basement.
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  Speaker 4: I'm like Jason kitt Miss. He's like, yeah, IM like
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  Speaker 4: he's already on our show. Yeah, like come on with
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  Speaker 4: someone better, come.
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  Speaker 3: Charge.
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  Speaker 2: About extension news, the Giants pick up Bob Melvin's twenty
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  Speaker 2: twenty six option as their surprising season continues. According to
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  Speaker 2: that CBS headline, the Giants announced it just say you know,
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  Speaker 2: the Twins have a role where they don't announce extensions
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  Speaker 2: for anyone that's not playing baseball. So you had the
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  Speaker 2: weird rock Oball Deli situation, which we can get into
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  Speaker 2: a few minutes from now, but let's start with San Francisco.
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  Speaker 2: Does this one make sense? Year three next year for
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  Speaker 2: Bob Melvin?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's only his third year. It's only it's third year.
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  Speaker 2: Next year it will be three.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah right, Yeah, but I just think that, Yeah, this
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  Speaker 4: one takes total sense. Buster Posey likes him. They're having
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  Speaker 4: a they were having a great, great year until old
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  Speaker 4: uh Raffie Demers got there, and now they stopped. They
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  Speaker 4: started hitting worse, which seems impossible. But uh, yeah, this
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  Speaker 4: one makes sense. Melvin has been around, he likes the
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  Speaker 4: Bay Area. He makes sense for them.
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  Speaker 3: So yeah, I just can't believe that he wasn't already picked.
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  Speaker 2: Up that he blamed dunk.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, and we know this is the thing
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  Speaker 3: everyone talks about players.
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  Speaker 4: How Come no one ever talks about manager contract general
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  Speaker 4: managers contracts?
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  Speaker 3: Then why aren't they made? Those should be made public too,
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  Speaker 3: just like players.
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  Speaker 2: I agree.
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  Speaker 1: I I couldn't believe he was That's all I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna say. I couldn't believe he was lame duck status.
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  Speaker 1: It kind of tells you that maybe Buster Posey was
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  Speaker 1: kind of like I kind of want to see.
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  Speaker 3: What you want to do.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'm putting too much into it, but Buster's a
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  Speaker 1: new GM. New gms want their manager. He could be like,
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  Speaker 1: I can't wait to have Aircrafts as the manager. So
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  Speaker 1: I'm waiting to see what you do. Bomel and Bomel,
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  Speaker 1: you still got your job. I'm not taking it yet.
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  Speaker 2: Think about it. When you're a GM or a president
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  Speaker 2: of baseball ops, you only get so many opportunities to
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  Speaker 2: blame something on the manager. So now, to me, this
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  Speaker 2: means Buster's like, yep, he's in. I like him. He's
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  Speaker 2: my guy. If there ends up being an issue and
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  Speaker 2: you have to switch your guy, I feel like you
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  Speaker 2: get one of those.
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  Speaker 4: But you can't have this is only a one year thing.
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  Speaker 4: It's not like you signed it to a five year extension.
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  Speaker 4: It's a one year. It's a one year thing, and
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  Speaker 4: Buster will see where they're at after another year. But
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  Speaker 4: this doesn't make him not a lame duck. He went
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  Speaker 4: from a lame duck possibly this year, to a lame
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  Speaker 4: duck next year. What's the difference. But I don't know
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  Speaker 4: why we can't just have all all every person that
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  Speaker 4: works for a baseball team that should have to have
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  Speaker 4: their contract out there, because why does it?
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  Speaker 3: Why is it fair for a player.
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  Speaker 4: That every fan knows how much I made or how
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  Speaker 4: much Crats made, or how much this guy makes. This
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  Speaker 4: guy makes, but they don't know the status of the
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  Speaker 4: GM or the manager. That doesn't seem fair, or the
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  Speaker 4: team or how much the team makes or any of
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  Speaker 4: that stuff.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I mean, it's not a publicly traded company.
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  Speaker 3: Besides, I'm not a publicly traded company. Yeah, why does it?
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  Speaker 3: Why does mine have to get out?
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  Speaker 2: Your agents are giving it away or teams are leaking it.
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  Speaker 3: I never told one person how much I made.
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  Speaker 2: Then the are leaking it? Yeah, yeah, okay, So the
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  Speaker 2: Twins play the opposite game because the Giants announced this.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they don't announce the money, but they announced
• 9:42
  Speaker 2: that he got the option picked up. Derek Falvey, who
• 9:45
  Speaker 2: runs the Twins, he's the president now of the team, said,
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: we never discussed personnel moves for non uniform So what happens? Eventually,
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: Dan Hayes finds out that his option was picked up.
• 9:57
  Speaker 2: The news breaks a few weeks ago. I think it
• 9:59
  Speaker 2: was two weeks ago for Rocco, and it's in the
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: midst of a downfall for the Twins. Fans are pissed
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: because they don't understand how all of that works, and
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: you don't get to control the narrative. It's one thing
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  Speaker 2: to not put the money out there because no one
• 10:12
  Speaker 2: else does, and most of it doesn't leave a little
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: bit of it does for the big boys. But to
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  Speaker 2: not even say that the guy is now on contract
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  Speaker 2: for next year weird. You're just allowing an insider to
• 10:23
  Speaker 2: find it out and put it out whenever he finds
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  Speaker 2: out about it.
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  Speaker 1: You think Dan Hayes was waiting until they had a
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: little no, do you think he found it?
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  Speaker 2: I think he got it and put it out immediately,
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: because you want to be first. Insiders want to be first.
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  Speaker 2: That's most important.
• 10:37
  Speaker 3: I genuine they want to be right, but well some
• 10:40
  Speaker 3: of them, some of them want to be right. Most
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  Speaker 3: of them want to be first that some of them
• 10:44
  Speaker 3: want to be right, some of them don't care. They
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  Speaker 3: just want to be first.
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  Speaker 2: But what I mean, if I'm the team, I'm putting
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  Speaker 2: that out in the off season, or if they want
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: to control the narrative and say hey, in the midst
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: of their thirteen game win streak, just so you know
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  Speaker 2: next year, is too.
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  Speaker 3: They have a rule, he said it. They have a rule.
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  Speaker 3: They don't. Well, why that's just I don't agree with me.
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  Speaker 4: The only time that my salary was ever publicly leaked
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  Speaker 4: is when I went to arbitration, because those numbers are
• 11:10
  Speaker 4: publicly put out there, which I don't understand either because
• 11:14
  Speaker 4: somebody leaks that. But when you sign a contract, I mean, listen,
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  Speaker 4: I Ken Rosenthal was always calling me when I was
• 11:20
  Speaker 4: a free agent, you're gonna sign, You're gonna sign. I
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  Speaker 4: never told him any any number, but somehow he still
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  Speaker 4: got it. So that had to come from the team.
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  Speaker 4: It didn't come for me ever, ever came from me.
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  Speaker 4: It's published too, Yeah, but who gets it? It has
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  Speaker 4: to be from the team exactly what.
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  Speaker 2: Sometimes it's the agent, I know, I think sometimes as
• 11:37
  Speaker 2: much ado about nothing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, But it's also like, why couldn't everybody have it?
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  Speaker 1: Why couldn't every team, team's manager, the coaches. That's something
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  Speaker 1: that teams don't want.
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  Speaker 2: To no, of course not.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, a coach in the big leagues makes eighty five
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: thousand dollars. How do you even how do you even
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: like pay for I mean the travel, the apartment that
• 12:02
  Speaker 1: you're living in, plus your house where you live, Like
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: they're getting pidlands to live in, like large cities, and
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  Speaker 1: everyone's like.
• 12:11
  Speaker 3: Oh, Bigley coach, it's unbelievable.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so glorious.
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: Those guys need extra help because you can't afford to
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  Speaker 1: live in some of the cities. On the salaries that
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  Speaker 1: some of these coaches let alone like a bullpen catcher
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  Speaker 1: let alone, like other like trainers and stuff like that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and obviously from an hour's perspective, you can't do
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  Speaker 2: anything else. This isn't the old, the good old days.
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  Speaker 3: Oh no, I lawns right before I came to the stadium.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, they're there in the morning, all day long.
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  Speaker 3: We're back.
• 12:45
  Speaker 2: Chris Dale was transferred to the sixty day I l
• 12:48
  Speaker 2: earliest return last ten days of August. Not necessarily the
• 12:54
  Speaker 2: most shocking news that this tweet coming from Grant McCauley,
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  Speaker 2: reporter for the team, is on the show often, but
• 13:00
  Speaker 2: still feels like a crushing blow when you get the
• 13:03
  Speaker 2: confirmation that it's still it's going to take some time.
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: He might come back late in the season, but I mean.
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  Speaker 3: It's going to be too late.
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if it's going to be too
• 13:11
  Speaker 2: late he can rehab. He just can't come like So
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  Speaker 2: if he's real, if he's back in a month and
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: can start pitching and rehab and do a couple of
• 13:19
  Speaker 2: starts whatever, and get himself on pace for late August,
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: you've got a month to spare. I don't know where
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: the Braves will be as a team at that point.
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  Speaker 2: He's also not going to get traded. In case the
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: Braves really fell off the map here and they decide
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  Speaker 2: to sell in a few weeks. There was a chance
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: that they would trade him. Obviously, it's not happening now.
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: You're not going to trade him when he's hurt. It
• 13:40
  Speaker 2: happens sometimes, but it doesn't happen often.
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  Speaker 3: It would be a salary dump.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and they're competing next year, so they're gonna have
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  Speaker 2: number one.
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  Speaker 1: They're not going to have any lineup pieces that are
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: eligible to be traded because.
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: They want to switch things up. Is going He's a
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  Speaker 2: free agent after this year is gone.
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  Speaker 1: That was a big bat that helped carry them last
• 14:00
  Speaker 1: year when they did well and they made the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: Profar traded. Nobody's gonna take him.
• 14:09
  Speaker 2: You'd have to eat You can't.
• 14:10
  Speaker 3: He can't play the playoffs.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just hey, I did my hot take a few
• 14:15
  Speaker 2: weeks ago. Profar to the padres.
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  Speaker 1: The half the deal. Yeah, I don't know all the deal.
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  Speaker 1: So you're gonna play somebody the whole way down the
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  Speaker 1: stretch to.
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  Speaker 2: Get you in.
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  Speaker 3: That's not gonna play playoffs.
• 14:29
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• 15:35
  Speaker 2: We're doing this one towards the top of the show
• 15:37
  Speaker 2: because he's a big deal. Jordan Alvarez is reporting more
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: hand service. He's going to be shut down from baseball
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: activities again. According to Dana Brown, who runs the front office.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: They were hoping that he was going to get going
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: against some live pitching at their spring training complex and
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: maybe see him back within a week or so. That's
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: not going to be the case. And Jeremy Pana went
• 16:01
  Speaker 2: down a couple of days ago. That's a lot for
• 16:05
  Speaker 2: a team that still is thriving and flying. We've been
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: talking about them a lot this week. That's bad news.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: Why can't they figure it out?
• 16:11
  Speaker 2: They didn't figure it out initially, Well, initially I.
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: Thought it was a hand, a strained muscle. I've never
• 16:15
  Speaker 3: heard of a strained muscle and a hand before. And
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: then they found out it was broken. But they didn't
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: do the scans til weeks later. I don't understand. You're
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: a big league team. You have every doctor, every hospital
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: at your disposal to do whatever scans you want to do.
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: Why didn't they do this from the jump and listen,
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: I've been through this. I broke my hand once and
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: took two weeks for them to figure out that my
• 16:37
  Speaker 3: hand was actually broken and because they had to do
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: a bone scan. This is in the minor leagues, Like,
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: haven't even you know?
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: It was different. This was thirty years ago. Nowadays you
• 16:45
  Speaker 4: can go to any you're the astros. You probably Jim
• 16:47
  Speaker 4: Crane probably owns a hospital that can do the MRI
• 16:50
  Speaker 4: for them. Right get your they get you right in.
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: You do the MRI, do the bone scan, do the
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: you know the die where lights up if it's if
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: there's a break in there, Like I feel like they
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: could have figured this out. Now it's been it's been months.
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: I think something's going on there. There's there's been weird injuries,
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: something like something like that, not like scandalous. I just
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: think there's something. There's something to the story because for
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: a team that's so successful, this seems to be the
• 17:19
  Speaker 2: one spot where it takes a pr hit. He's got
• 17:22
  Speaker 2: this injury. Just kidding, he's got this injury setbacks. Obviously,
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: everybody's body is different. We don't know exactly what's going
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: on behind the scenes, partially due to hippolaws, but this
• 17:33
  Speaker 2: just seems to pop up with the stros a lot.
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: I mean, Chandler Rome's been documenting this pretty good. We
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: don't get this level of crypticness, yeah, from most teams,
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: because he's.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Because come up. So because it's come up a lot.
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: He's got a hand thing or Christian Waller, Kyle Tucker
• 17:53
  Speaker 1: last year had.
• 17:54
  Speaker 3: The leg injury.
• 17:56
  Speaker 2: That's what I'm talking about.
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: So you're saying, because it happens more often.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: You think they're like, do you think there's an advantage
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: to it? I don't think there's an advantage to it?
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Or why aren't they just saying what's going on when
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: it was happening, So then then they should say they
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: should hey, we I mean I guess they somewhat said, hey,
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: we totally missed It's well, then you need to evaluate
• 18:17
  Speaker 2: why why did we miss on injuries in back to
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: back years.
• 18:20
  Speaker 3: Nobody wants to tell people what they're not good at.
• 18:24
  Speaker 4: But yes, the Astros are going to tell you the
• 18:30
  Speaker 4: opposite of what you just said, Scott, which is what
• 18:33
  Speaker 4: that they give the information that they're given, and that's
• 18:36
  Speaker 4: what they give out.
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: That's fine. That that part's fine. I'm not blaming the
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: middle the people saying where's that info coming from? And
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: why have there been misses like this? And if there are,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: just come out and say.
• 18:47
  Speaker 4: Well, Angels had to miss with Rendon a couple of
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: years ago, the same thing.
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: You're not blaming Angels.
• 18:52
  Speaker 4: Remember he said he had a They kept saying he
• 18:55
  Speaker 4: had a bruise, and he said he had a fraction.
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: The thing as Kyle took out that it was really acts.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: He's hip laws. You can't talk about saying.
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: That's a totally different case, that that's not fair unless
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I'm missing something. I don't think that they ever said no,
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: Pie's right, he's got it.
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: Why don't we just do like they do in the
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: NHL upper body injury, lower body injury? Why do we
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: have to be so specific?
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: I think I think NHL has actually changed that now,
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: but I'm not sure.
• 19:22
  Speaker 2: I just think Astros fans get very frustrated. They also
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: have high expectations. They've had a good team for a
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: long time, but the guy can't that's no doubt. They
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: just feel like, A why are they missing? And B
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: why is the info? Sometimes? Kind of how does that change?
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: How does that change a fans opinion of yourn Alvarez.
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: He's hurt, Jordan can't play. Why do they need more information?
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: He can't play? Are you going to make the judgment that, oh,
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: he's soft because it's a hand injury. No, A bunch
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: of tiny little bones and all that stuff in there
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: that sometimes you miss some bones, skin on all.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: That stuff, No doubt, I know one. Right. So Corey
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: Seeger was it going into last year? Ended up having
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: some type of was it hernie surgery or something really
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: late because they didn't catch it. He was feeling weird
• 20:13
  Speaker 2: for a while and they caught it later. I think
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: he went to someone else and they caught it. This
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: is like the Asters are the only ones. This stuff
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: happens all the time. It just has happened in back
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: to back years to their superstars, and fans are not
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: going to go so in depth on what's going on.
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: They're just i mean social media ablaze or even just
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: step foot in Houston right now and they're like sweep
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: out the medical staff. What's going on here?
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: What about the Dodgers? What about the Dodgers? They got
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: dudes going down. It's like we had Glass now come
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: on and be like, hey, you know what, I probably
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: would have pitched through this, Like we're not talking that
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: way about the Dodgers.
• 20:48
  Speaker 3: Like, you win, it saves everything. You're winning, That's what
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I'm saying. It saves everything.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: So to me, it's a non it's a non story
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: until we find something till Drelik or Ken Rosenthal comes
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: comes up with something that's I don't think drugs allowed
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: to talk to the astros too much anymore. But they
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: come up with something that says that says something like, hey,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you know they're covering this up or covering like the padres,
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the padres, the trainer, he still kept his job.
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: The dude that was hid Was it him he was
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: the one hiding it or was he instructed to hide it?
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: I mean that person kept his job. Preller kept his
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: job too.
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's different. That was them trying to gain an
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: advantage in the I don't think.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: There's I don't think there's an advantage here. I don't
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: think you're losing.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I'm not saying there is. I'm just like, do you
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: think there's anything going on there? I'm trying to play
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: the conspiracy theory game. Do you just think medical staff
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: miss stuff back to back years which did hurt jord
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: On this year because they they were rehabbing him for
• 21:52
  Speaker 2: a different injury. That's a real thing. Oh, hey, you're good,
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: You're good. Do this, next step, this, next step? This. Wait,
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I'm still feeling off. Oh crap, we miss something.
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: Maybe as a player, you know when there's stuff that's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: going on.
• 22:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, then it's nothing. But we'll post this and we'll
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: see if Astros fans jump in with other thoughts, and
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: I'll look for the comments and then we can do
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: a part two. We're back, and so is Paul Schimes.
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: With a new job, he's going to be the best
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: grounds crew person ever because he's really good at everything.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: You see the little circle that no O Hiles drew up.
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: He was bored. He was bored.
• 22:32
  Speaker 2: Well, when you start, you dominate, and then.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: And your boys don't score any runs for you. He's
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: not making connections with the team, he's not hanging out
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: on the and how do you cut grass professionally?
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: That's what he said. He wants to do it. He's like, yeah,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: I'd like to do that.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: When I'm done, you can own a landscaping service.
• 22:50
  Speaker 3: So he's going to cut grass professionally.
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: Why not? What do you mean? What don't you understand
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: about that?
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, because that's your job. You're a professional.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Yes.
• 23:02
  Speaker 4: When I was a kid, my dad, my dad started
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: a landscaping business.
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: He worked at the phone company.
• 23:09
  Speaker 4: He went to start a landscaping business and I had
• 23:11
  Speaker 4: to work for him on weekends and I had to
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: cut grass. I was a professional grass cutter.
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: So he was already that. So essentially wants to be you.
• 23:19
  Speaker 4: I ain't cut my grass now because I did it
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: for summer and doing it ever again summer in Florida.
• 23:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah no, I am not doing that. It was awful
• 23:27
  Speaker 4: eight hours on a damn in Florida. Then you have
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: to dump the bag. Wow, And I'm talking push mower.
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: We're back.
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: Look at some things from yesterday Canada Day AJ's favorite
• 23:40
  Speaker 2: the red unis George Springer to Homers. They clobbered the
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: Yanks on a Max free day, which is pretty rare.
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: Max gave up four earned runs and his six innings
• 23:49
  Speaker 2: don't worry. You are still two to one three. But
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: Gospman beat him. So did their offense, George Springer when
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: a seven RBIs so he beat him. Yeah, they've been
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: waiting for this.
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah. He came up twice with the bases loaded.
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: I was so hoping he was gonna three dangers, two
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Grand Slams in a game that would have been but
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: decide for a rocket in.
• 24:09
  Speaker 2: The gap, one game away from first place race one
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: and a half a month. Aguy Burns like, well, that
• 24:16
  Speaker 2: race is already over.
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: There's one race. There's two races that are over right now.
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: In the divisionals, are.
• 24:22
  Speaker 2: You gonna say NL West Central Central is done?
• 24:26
  Speaker 4: A Central NL West is done. Padres are eight and
• 24:31
  Speaker 4: the Giants are nine. But they're not catching Okay, they're
• 24:33
  Speaker 4: not making that up. And the other one you can
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: almost call is the Astros in the in the Al West.
• 24:38
  Speaker 4: There's seven games up.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Right, they're losing a lot of I know what they
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: keep winning they do right now.
• 24:42
  Speaker 4: But as long as they have fromber Hunter Brown and Colton,
• 24:46
  Speaker 4: Gordon's been a revelation for him and they have that
• 24:49
  Speaker 4: back into the bullpen.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: They can pitch, they can out pitch teams. Their games
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: are only seven long.
• 24:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a big game.
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: They cost.
• 24:57
  Speaker 2: Wait what acqua Josh Hater a couple of years ago
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: was a good idea when no one else wanted him.
• 25:04
  Speaker 2: Nobody else wanted.
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: Him really expensive.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: It's true. I mean we've had his agent on who
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: is now retired from that world. He was like, nobody
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: wanted him.
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: Scott, I know you hate this stat, but this is
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: a pretty amazing This is a telling stat. Al Central
• 25:17
  Speaker 4: Tiger's twelve games up. They're the only team of the
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: positive one directial.
• 25:25
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• 25:37
  Speaker 2: MLB Execs predict a Contra, Naylor and other players most
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: likely to be traded at the deadline. We love to
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: slice and dice his articles Do you want to go
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: down the line here, We'll do pitchers first and then
• 25:52
  Speaker 2: position players.
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: Sure, I'll kick out some players there, Gutty.
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: I think all Contra, that's not obvious.
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: But he's under contract, Super Team, super Team, Friendly Country.
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: If I'm if I'm Bendix, I'm thinking about maybe I
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: keep him and at least have one guy.
• 26:10
  Speaker 3: People have heard of.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: They've got some strong they've got some strong young pictures
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: that people don't know about.
• 26:16
  Speaker 2: He's got what two seasons after this.
• 26:17
  Speaker 1: Contract, twenty seven? There's I mean, there's another option for
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: twenty seven.
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: Okay, So if you're the Mirlins, do you feel like
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: you're competing by then? Actually? Maybe, I mean.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: If the people pitchers stay healthy.
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Edward Cabrera is having a great year.
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: Jump boy jumps junk m hm meyer.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: So you think they should hold on to him, Well,
• 26:39
  Speaker 2: they don't care what you think.
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: They don't.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: If if everybody in the world thinks they're gonna hold
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: onto a guy, guess what they're gonna do. He'll be
• 26:45
  Speaker 4: on the first boat to wherever the next stop is,
• 26:48
  Speaker 4: because it's just.
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: What they do.
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: What about Edward Cabrera, he has a list?
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: Why not hold on to him?
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: He's not making much money yet.
• 26:57
  Speaker 3: It's already had it Tommy johnes, so he's good for
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: a while.
• 27:00
  Speaker 2: He's had a lot of injuries seven times on the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: IL from twenty twenty one through twenty twenty four, including
• 27:05
  Speaker 2: three shoulder and pingement issues.
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: But that also scares scares a lot of teams.
• 27:08
  Speaker 2: It scares a lot of teams, but it might scare
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: his own team, who's thinking he's having a career year.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: On this list the ones that makes sen Mitch Keller,
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: I don't think he's going to get traded because the
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Pirates again, they're just he's a team friendly deal they're
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: going to hold on.
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: I disagree. I think I think he needs for sure
• 27:22
  Speaker 3: effln expiring contract.
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: For sure if he's healthy.
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: If he's healthy, But and then the two diamondback guys,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: it depends how they play in the next ten days.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: Correct.
• 27:31
  Speaker 3: But Dag Gallup dealt last night.
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I disagree with you on Mitch Keller. I don't think
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: he's definitely getting traded, but I do think the Pirates
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: will shop him. There is no owner in baseball who
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: goes more off of how much are we making this year?
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: And they are not going to make nearly as much
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: as they thought. For the commenters that are holding hands
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: with owners all the time, I'm just giving you the
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: actual details of how this works. Bob Nutting has a budget,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: so this is a way for them to significantly trim
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: from that budget, and this is the position of strength
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: for them. Trade Mitch Keller, open up a little money
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: for the position player side, and also maybe get yourself
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: a position player prospect or too, because they have a
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: lot of work to do on the position player front.
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a crazy thought. He's making fifteen
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: mil this year, which is twenty percent of their opening
• 28:17
  Speaker 2: day payroll, sixteen and a half million next year, eighteen
• 28:20
  Speaker 2: and twenty seven, twenty million in twenty twenty eight, and
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: he does not have a no trade clause. If there's
• 28:26
  Speaker 2: a time, this could be at plus big athletic could
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: have another year like Garrett Cole did, like Tyler Glass
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: now did. Performance wise.
• 28:37
  Speaker 1: No, I guess, okay, okay, if somebody sees something in him,
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: yes that's the team that's maybe he's a.
• 28:44
  Speaker 4: Five hundred pitcher, because isn't he kind of around he's
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: too inten this year, which he's too inten.
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: But the big thing, the glaring thing, is to strikeouts
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: for nine. Yeah, he's got seventy seven k's in ninety
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: nine innings. You know who needs that? You know who
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: needs that?
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: It's the innings.
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: Teams that don't have guys who go long. They could
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: trade for him, but you look at his salaries that
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: are coming up next year. No chant Bob Nunny wants
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: to have another pitcher who is too and ten because
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: he'll look at that and say it he was to
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: to ten on his roster. That's taking up twenty percent
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: of his salary.
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: No way, he just passed the threshold.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: Nothing, just passed the threshold of paying somebody ten million
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: dollars when he gave Key Brian Hayes a few years
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: ago a front laden contract that paid the first player
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: to play for ten million dollars a year under the Pirates.
• 29:35
  Speaker 3: Now he's changed that.
• 29:36
  Speaker 2: This is a backloaded contract, and yes he will.
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: He does not want that around. The only way he
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: doesn't get moved is if the value is not out there.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: And Pirate fans, I'm sorry.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: The history says they ain't getting anybody good because they're
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: not willing to eat any of that money. So you
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: were going to choose from a lower tier of players.
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: That's why they went and got you know, you know,
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: got Musgrove, they got blanket on the other guys they
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: got for like Garrett Cole, for Tyler Glass. Now they
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: got fleet, they get they got Chris Archer at the
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: end of his career. They gave up. They gave up Boss.
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: They gave up Glass now in the same deal, like, sorry,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: they're not going to because to get something good back
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: you have to be willing to eat some of the contract,
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: and they won't.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: I don't think he's gonna be a dope, but I
• 30:26
  Speaker 3: think the more I think, the more interesting guys on
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: this from the Pirates is Bednar and Dennis Santana. Okay,
• 30:30
  Speaker 3: so's Ben there, let's not forget for the start of
• 30:31
  Speaker 3: the year in the minor leagues, he got optioned to
• 30:34
  Speaker 3: Triple A. Now he's been perfect and save opportunity.
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: Well he got optioned after a week. Yeah, just clarifying
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: for this.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: He's he was in the minor leagues this year, Yes,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: but he's been perfect and saved.
• 30:46
  Speaker 4: Santana is good. But also the here's the problem that
• 30:49
  Speaker 4: you have with all these guys. The Pirates are playing better, okay,
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: and and and Nutting is gonna look at that and say, oh,
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: maybe we can build some for next year. I'm gonna
• 30:57
  Speaker 4: cut the payroll because this is what we have and
• 30:59
  Speaker 4: we could be better because we were sixteen and fifteen
• 31:02
  Speaker 4: or whatever it is in their.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: Last thirty one game.
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: So they hired Don Kelly, right, But those two are
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: more interesting to me because there's a lot of teams
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: out there that can use a reliever.
• 31:12
  Speaker 2: I think they'll both get traded.
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: Okay, I don't see Mason Miller. He's not getting traded.
• 31:17
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry. Felix Bautista could, Hellesley could, class A, could
• 31:22
  Speaker 4: two twins, guys could.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: Bednor's gone.
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: I'm a hard no on Felix Bautista. I think there's
• 31:29
  Speaker 2: a pr battle going on in Baltimore right now. They've
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: got pitchforks. This is a player who costs a million
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: dollars this year and he's under control for I think
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: at least two more years after this. Are you competing
• 31:39
  Speaker 2: next year and he's on fire in the past month.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Isn't this your closer?
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: Yeah? Mason Miller to me is not going either. No,
• 31:45
  Speaker 3: he's always They always put him out there. No chance.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Chapman's gone if the Red Sox aren't in it by then. True,
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: he always gets dealt at the deadline, hired gun two months.
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: But Dennis Santana and bed Noor are both gonna be
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: five plus service year guys after this season. You're getting
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: a year and a half. This is prime pirates candidate.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: They're both pitching well, Dennis Santana's come back from the
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: trying to hit a fan thing.
• 32:10
  Speaker 3: But hey, you know what these two That's why I
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: think Santana's pretty likely to go. Plus course is a
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: bad pr of that.
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, law of averages. He's not going to do that again.
• 32:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah true, But still still position players like Ryan O'Hearn
• 32:25
  Speaker 4: to me, is gone gone, Uh Suarez, It depends how
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: they do the next ten days.
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: Mullin's probably gone. Saz is gonna be a huge pickup,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: right Naylor to me again, the diamondback guys.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: To me, it's all about like how they do in
• 32:39
  Speaker 4: the next week or so, because then they have to
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: make a decision by the also break, What are we
• 32:42
  Speaker 4: doing when we enter? We out Luis Robert Jr. We've
• 32:44
  Speaker 4: talked about it. He has no value right now. What
• 32:46
  Speaker 4: do you get great? I want to trade Louis Robert Jr.
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: He's hurt and he sucks when he plays. He's hitting
• 32:51
  Speaker 4: one to eighty or whatever.
• 32:52
  Speaker 3: He's sitting.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: They held him too long. What about Brian Reynolds.
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: I think would love to get rid of him. His
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: first one hundred million dollar guy. I know, But is
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: they gonna get enough insured without a eating money. Probably not.
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think he's in that window of somebody that'll
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: get rid of and you have to have somebody in
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: your lineup.
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: Why would the Guardians trade Stephen Kwan. I don't know.
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: That one. To me awesome, that's deeper down on the list,
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: But I don't know.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: Bregman is not going to get traded.
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: I don't think because they're gonna the Red Tucks are
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: gonna want to bring him back next year. Usually you
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: don't trade a guy and then bring him back. It
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: very rarely happens.
• 33:23
  Speaker 3: His role as Chatman's like one of the only guys
• 33:25
  Speaker 3: in the history of the world as it had it happened.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: If Bregman comes back and hits, they could deal him.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: He's a free agent. If he comes back and looks good.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: I know, yeah, because you're not getting anything when he
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: opts out, because he's going to opt out, whether they're
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: resigning him or not. Maybe they are like, hey, we
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: got rid of Dever's, we're gonna resign him now.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: Last one at the end of this list, Castanas.
• 33:49
  Speaker 3: I think his name was just there because it was
• 33:51
  Speaker 3: in the Kyle Tucker stuff in the offseason.
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: That means they were willing to deal him, right.
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: But the Phillies don't have enough outfielders as it is.
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: So I think the only way it happens is if
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: they get something like a Mullins.
• 34:05
  Speaker 3: Mullins or even Mullins upgrade from cass No, not to
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: me defensively, but defensively, but okay, say Casios play right
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: and you have you know, the guys that are left
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: in center, and Castianos is right, it's not. I mean,
• 34:19
  Speaker 3: he's not great, but he's not He's not the good
• 34:21
  Speaker 3: to kill you up.
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: They think he's killing them, Yes, they do.
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: Statistically they think that Brandon Marsh, Johann Rojas, and Max
• 34:31
  Speaker 1: Kepler are better than the combination of Nick Costianos, Rojas
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: and Marsh.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: And if you replace Rojas with Mullins, you upgraded the
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: bat and you're still putting an elite and is.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: Still gonna be on the roster because he's the fourth
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: to go out there in Celia base if you need
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: one in a game.
• 34:49
  Speaker 2: That's fourth.
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: The play that I could see is if they got
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: rid of Costianos in like and they were able to
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: pick up like a Bednar Reynolds combination from the Pirates,
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: where you have somebody to fill in. As much as
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: Dombrowski decimates farm systems, which I completely agree with, he
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: isn't afraid of looking for guys that are not just rentals.
• 35:14
  Speaker 3: He'll look for rentals.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: But I mean a guy like Reynolds could fit into
• 35:18
  Speaker 1: the future of their organization. And I think a guy
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: that's not been on a winning team, not been on
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: like a competitive team, with his pedigree, with his what
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: I think his talent is as a switch hitter, I
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: think he could fit really well there. And the Phillies
• 35:35
  Speaker 1: aren't afraid of picking up a contract because they're not
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: going to re sign real Muto, Costianos, and Schwarber all
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: next year.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: And for the Phillies, that's not a heavy contract. And
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: I know what most runt offices look at these days.
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: That cast page is by the.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: Wait if Casis gets traded to the Pirates, No no, no, no, no, not.
• 35:55
  Speaker 2: Too he might, but he's just saying they could Reynolds.
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: No, I know, but I mean, they got to trade
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: somebody to the pirates and there's a salary off set.
• 36:04
  Speaker 2: But the Pirates don't want him, they want prospects.
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, if you have to get into
• 36:08
  Speaker 4: that with a salary off set, then maybe the Pirates
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: could turn and send him somewhere else. But if he
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: if he has to go to it'd be like Mike
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: Piazza and Mike Piazza went to the Marlins for like okay,
• 36:18
  Speaker 4: like there would probably be a revolution if castianis walked
• 36:21
  Speaker 4: in and put on the pirate's uniform for like five days.
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: You evolution, No heirs in like four hundred and six
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: games or something.
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: Listen, he just doesn't have great range, but he doesn't
• 36:33
  Speaker 4: like except for the ball where he he ran and
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: the ball went behind him and then it was like
• 36:36
  Speaker 4: a triple like the air. I'm not saying it's an error,
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: but he's not.
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: Listen. He makes the place, yes.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: He does, but you have better options to put in
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: his place when the game is on the line, like
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: a lot of good players. When I played for with
• 36:50
  Speaker 1: Lorenzo Cain in two thaty fourteen, they moved Lorenzo Kine
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: to right field and put Jeron Dice in in center field.
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: This is a future gold Glover that they would move
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: because it was a better overall option.
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: But you're talking about two guys that rank super super
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: high in front office analytics on defense and then for Castianos,
• 37:08
  Speaker 2: that was part of the little battle this year is
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: he's minus nine outs above average one percentile outfielder, which
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: for most front offices means I don't want you in
• 37:17
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• 37:19
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• 37:22
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