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Vet Josh Davis Q&A For May 7th, 2025 · The Radio From Hell Show - Best Of

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  Speaker 1: You got a sick puppy or kitty you got or
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  Speaker 1: maybe they're having psychological problems. I don't know. Doctor Josh
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  Speaker 1: Davis is here. He is a veterinarian who can answer
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  Speaker 1: the questions that you might have about your puppies and
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: kitties and all of that. Do you have a problem
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  Speaker 1: with your kitty or your puppy, please call us doctor Davis.
• 0:22
  Speaker 1: Good morning, Good morning, Hey you guys, do I'm good.
• 0:24
  Speaker 1: Did you see that? I think I deleted it, unfortunately,
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  Speaker 1: But that story about the world's tallest dog that lives
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  Speaker 1: in Idaho Falls.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't see that one.
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  Speaker 1: Great, he's a great Dane. What do they say, he's
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  Speaker 1: three feet I think we have the picture. Do you
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  Speaker 1: still have the picture, Katie, Let's take a look at it.
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  Speaker 1: Three feet six inches tall or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: I built as part of the story. Bill said that
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  Speaker 3: dog's that big, don't very long? Is that true?
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  Speaker 4: They do tend to go through more wear and tear
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  Speaker 4: just because of their size. So with proper care, though,
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  Speaker 4: especially with these guys, weight management is a huge thing,
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  Speaker 4: and just proper preventive care you can get more mind
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  Speaker 4: out of them.
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  Speaker 2: Then you think the.
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  Speaker 1: Story said three or four years and his name is Reginald.
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  Speaker 1: There he is Reginald is a big boy, and Reginald
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  Speaker 1: lives is seven years old. Yeah, and uh, and his
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  Speaker 1: owner says, he's he's well, he does well, he's doing okay.
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  Speaker 1: There are pictures of him like there are other pictures
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  Speaker 1: of him standing on his hind legs, like with his
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  Speaker 1: front paws up on the kitchen sink, and and it's
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  Speaker 1: just like, what.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a big, big boy.
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  Speaker 3: How different is for you you treating a dog that
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  Speaker 3: big versus a chihuahua. Is it like a whole different
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  Speaker 3: other animal or is it similar?
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  Speaker 2: It's fairly similar.
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  Speaker 4: I mean a lot of the breeds, especially the pure breeds,
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  Speaker 4: that they have their own things you have to watch
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  Speaker 4: out for. But in general, a dog is a dog,
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  Speaker 4: a cat is a cat. But large job is to
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  Speaker 4: know the quirks and the different things.
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  Speaker 3: That's what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: I think your job is so hard for that. There
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  Speaker 2: can be a lot of different breeds.
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  Speaker 4: Because one breed could have a totally different thing and
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  Speaker 4: another one, and and our job is just to try
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  Speaker 4: and put all that together for sure.
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  Speaker 1: So we do have a call online one I can't
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  Speaker 1: wait to start out with a call about stinky pe. Yeah.
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  Speaker 5: Now she's in her car and it's kind of noisy.
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  Speaker 5: So here we go.
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  Speaker 1: Hi, Carle, Hi, what's your kiddy's name? And what's the
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  Speaker 1: problem here?
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  Speaker 3: So she is a rescue cat.
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  Speaker 5: She's about eight years old, and she has like.
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  Speaker 6: P I've ever smelled from a cat, Like even after
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  Speaker 6: she is his litter box.
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  Speaker 1: It just steaks up the whole house like it's wow,
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  Speaker 1: it's like fousy or all right, what do you what
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  Speaker 1: do the bet she is?
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  Speaker 6: They say she's like normal, everything good with her, So I.
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  Speaker 1: Don't know, is there Okay, what do you think, doctor Davis?
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's interesting.
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  Speaker 4: Some pets can different smells to the urine, and I
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  Speaker 4: would always want to rule out you know, U, T.
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  Speaker 2: I S or other issues with that.
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  Speaker 4: And if they've done that, then yeah apparently, yeah a
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  Speaker 4: check up versus like a full year analysis and checking
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  Speaker 4: those things out. I mean that that's really important. And
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  Speaker 4: then diet certainly certainly can play.
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  Speaker 2: A role in asparagus.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, man, I got to start feeding start feeding the
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  Speaker 1: cat roses.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, well, mister Crinkles likes asparagus and you were wondering
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  Speaker 4: about that.
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  Speaker 1: Wait, wait what did you say, Carly.
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  Speaker 4: I was wondering if it was, you know, like, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: so the food and the pH that could be a
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  Speaker 4: factor in that too. If there's not really a medical issue,
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  Speaker 4: so it never hurts to do a urinary health type
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  Speaker 4: of diet. And there are many offer that are prescription
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  Speaker 4: and non prescription. So maybe just something to think about.
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  Speaker 4: And if that doesn't change anything, then I would definitely
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  Speaker 4: want to dig deeper into that because you know, cat,
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  Speaker 4: he has.
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  Speaker 2: A smell, but it shouldn't be stinking up your whole house.
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  Speaker 1: You should say, I think you're going to have to
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  Speaker 1: start saying, look, if you have to go to the bathroom,
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  Speaker 1: you're going outside. Okay, now go outside.
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  Speaker 5: I have to be that way.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Carly, Sia, thank you.
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  Speaker 5: All right, No, we got another p question here.
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  Speaker 2: Oh good.
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  Speaker 7: My Chihuahua Sheitsu mix hal aka hel nine thousand has
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  Speaker 7: a history of urine crystals.
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  Speaker 5: Prescription food helps.
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  Speaker 7: Keep them away, but it makes him pee all the time.
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  Speaker 7: Any tips for this frequent urination in the house. He
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  Speaker 7: now wears diapers all the time because he can't keep up.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, and that so two things there is some
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  Speaker 4: of the urinary foods part of how they work is
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  Speaker 4: to dilute the urine so they do p more and
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  Speaker 4: then that means they don't build the crystals up, so
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  Speaker 4: that that is a normal benefit of some of them.
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  Speaker 4: And then the only downside of the diapers is one
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  Speaker 4: it's the diapers, but that can actually cause issues with
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  Speaker 4: the skin and skin infections and also predispose them to UTIs,
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  Speaker 4: which you're trying to avoid urinary issues too.
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  Speaker 2: So there are.
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  Speaker 4: Different urinary diets and so it may be worth looking
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  Speaker 4: at it a version to see if that could help
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  Speaker 4: a little bit.
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  Speaker 1: All right, I find that little Friskies helps me not
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  Speaker 1: pee as much. Absolutely love it. We're back now with
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  Speaker 1: doctor Josh Davis. He is a veterinarian and can answer
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  Speaker 1: questions about your dogs and cats. Since we like to
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  Speaker 1: know the name of your cat and what's the problem,
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  Speaker 1: or the same thing for your dog, what's the name
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  Speaker 1: of your dog and the problem? So we'll go. We
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  Speaker 1: got a couple of calls here, JJ is here, Hi JJ,
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  Speaker 1: where are you calling from West Jordan? And you're what
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  Speaker 1: is it a dog? What's your dog's name?
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  Speaker 8: I've got a sixteen year old Yorkie named Zeke.
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  Speaker 1: Zeke the Yorkie. All right, what's your question.
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  Speaker 8: So he's pretty blind and pretty deaf. He follows me
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  Speaker 8: around the house. His hind legs from time to time
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  Speaker 8: will give out if he's on the tile or hardwood,
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  Speaker 8: and I can just stand him up and he's fine.
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  Speaker 8: But this morning it's perfect kindly gets the vets on
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  Speaker 8: this morning. When I did that, I picked him up,
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  Speaker 8: his body wholly straightened out. He threw his head back
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  Speaker 8: and yelled. He screamed, I can't pay. He's fine now,
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  Speaker 8: yeah here. I don't know who was a seizure or what,
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  Speaker 8: but he it was a scream that a dog could scream.
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  Speaker 8: That's exactly.
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  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know that.
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  Speaker 8: And then he peed on me while I was holding it.
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  Speaker 8: And in about five minutes we were outside and I
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  Speaker 8: gave him some treats and standing up and now he's
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  Speaker 8: just fine. But he's never done that before.
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  Speaker 5: It sounds familiar.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, there's a couple I would say possibilities for
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  Speaker 4: what you got for that age and that breed. So
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  Speaker 4: one could definitely have been a seizure, you know, if
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  Speaker 4: it sounds like it might fit the bill for that.
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  Speaker 4: The other thing is that that age in that breed
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  Speaker 4: is also very prone to heart disease, and so if
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  Speaker 4: they have heart murmurs or heart disease or heart failure,
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  Speaker 4: they can also have similar episodes, but it's more collapsing
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  Speaker 4: because they lose blood supply to the brain and oxygenation,
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  Speaker 4: so they'll have seizure like activity from that too.
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  Speaker 2: So I would I would.
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  Speaker 4: Want to know what we're dealing in that way and
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  Speaker 4: then see if we could come up with a plan.
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  Speaker 4: But it would it would take some work to figure
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  Speaker 4: that out for sure, But I think it's worth getting
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  Speaker 4: looked at because one episode is it's you know, it's
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  Speaker 4: probably not going to be the only one, and you
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  Speaker 4: want to know what you're dealing with exactly right, Yeah.
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  Speaker 8: For shops pretty soon, so I'll get I'm definitely going
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  Speaker 8: to address.
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  Speaker 2: That for sure.
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  Speaker 7: All right, good luck, j J you much. Let's see
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  Speaker 7: here's I've never heard of this. What can you do
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  Speaker 7: for happy tail? My empy tail, my German my German
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  Speaker 7: shepherd wacks her tail on everything.
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  Speaker 1: My cat does that too.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, the happy tail is it's kind of the bane
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  Speaker 4: of existence sometimes, so happy tails when usually it's bigger
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  Speaker 4: dogs and we call it happy tails. They get excited
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  Speaker 4: and start smacking their tail on the corners of walls
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  Speaker 4: and tables and chairs and things like that, and then
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  Speaker 4: they'll actually break the skin open near the tip of
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  Speaker 4: the tail and it will just paint.
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  Speaker 2: The walls with blood.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's kind of terrible, you know, and it can
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  Speaker 4: be painful and it is difficult to treat because we
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  Speaker 4: can put bandages on, patch it up, try to get
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  Speaker 4: it to heal up. But then the minute you get
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  Speaker 4: it healed up, they'll they'll do it again often, and
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  Speaker 4: so it can be quite a process to get that
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  Speaker 4: to heal. In extreme cases, I have performed like partial
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  Speaker 4: tail amputations to get rid of the unhealing tissue, kind
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  Speaker 4: of shorten the tail a little bit, and then they
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  Speaker 4: often do well. But you know, and I wouldn't say
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  Speaker 4: we do that every time, but there are extreme cases
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  Speaker 4: where you just cannot get it to heal, and it's
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  Speaker 4: it's a pain.
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  Speaker 1: My cat does that too, it and my cat also
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  Speaker 1: bangs his head into stuff and I mean hard well,
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  Speaker 1: it does it constantly. Scott's why he's an idiot.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so happy tail is not not fun.
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  Speaker 5: It's the first I've heard of this. This is interesting,
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  Speaker 5: all right.
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  Speaker 1: Eight seven seven six zero two ninety six ninety six. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, my cat's name is Klaus. There you
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  Speaker 1: go eight seven seven six oh two ninety six ninety
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  Speaker 1: six for your goal.
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  Speaker 7: We have a three year old black, short haired cat
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  Speaker 7: named Gemini.
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  Speaker 5: Three year old.
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  Speaker 7: We just recently moved, and our previous living quarters had
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  Speaker 7: multiple cats and dogs, but now being in our new place,
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  Speaker 7: she's the only animal. It's been about two months and
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  Speaker 7: sheyows all night long.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not sure.
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  Speaker 5: What's going on.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, miss the she really misses the other animal.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, cats are relatively social, most of them, and so
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  Speaker 4: could be partly that we're missying our friends.
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  Speaker 2: And then also cats don't always.
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  Speaker 4: Do well immediately in new environments, and so there can
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  Speaker 4: be some stresses and change in behavior associated with that.
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  Speaker 4: So I wouldn't say run out and get another cat,
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  Speaker 4: but it's something you might want to think about and
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  Speaker 4: just see. Even foster. Sometimes fostering you can see if
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  Speaker 4: they get along and go from there.
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  Speaker 1: Klaus, I can tell how when he's hungry, and I
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  Speaker 1: can tell that now, and then I could miss his mate,
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  Speaker 1: mister well not mate, but his buddy mister fluffy Pants
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  Speaker 1: has been dead for a couple of years, but I
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  Speaker 1: can still tell when he this other meal that he
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  Speaker 1: does that he's looking. Where's mister Philippia.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have one of our cats does the same thing.
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  Speaker 4: We've lost our cat a couple of years ago, and
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  Speaker 4: he's still ten o'clock every night he's walking around the house.
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  Speaker 2: Howland for her for years? He's done it for years?
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  Speaker 5: So yeah, all right, Amy is here?
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  Speaker 2: Hello?
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  Speaker 1: Amy? Hi, Hi, Where are you calling from.
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  Speaker 9: I am driving in Sandy right now to work.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, tell us about your dog and what its name
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  Speaker 1: is and everything.
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  Speaker 9: Okay. She's an eighteen months old Newfoundland that I had
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  Speaker 9: stayed about three weeks ago, and ever since she was staid,
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  Speaker 9: she's become very aggressive, Like she wasn't aggressive before she
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  Speaker 9: was stayed, but now she's become aggressive.
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  Speaker 6: And I'm just wondering why that.
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  Speaker 1: Was he aggressive it? How?
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  Speaker 9: I mean, how bad is it like when she's so
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  Speaker 9: I have a labradoodle also, and when they're playing, it
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  Speaker 9: becomes it goes too far and they become things start fighting.
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  Speaker 2: Hmmm.
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  Speaker 5: Interesting.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is an interesting one.
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  Speaker 4: So the space surgery itself, sometimes, I mean there's gonna
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  Speaker 4: be some post operative pain from that and that that
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  Speaker 4: can linger for a while after the surgery, even though.
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  Speaker 2: The healing has occurred.
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  Speaker 4: There's scar tissue and healing tissue, so pain could be
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  Speaker 4: part of the equation. It also does change you know
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  Speaker 4: that the hormones there, which usually most dogs, you know,
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  Speaker 4: we have the hope that it kind of mellows them
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  Speaker 4: out or makes them a little less territorial sometimes or
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  Speaker 4: less aggressive.
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  Speaker 2: So it's early on. So I would say just to
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  Speaker 2: be careful in.
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  Speaker 4: Those specific situations and see about just you know, giving
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  Speaker 4: more time for it, and then if that's not changing anything,
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  Speaker 4: then I probably would start looking into, all right, what
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  Speaker 4: do we need some behavior modification here, whether that's looking
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  Speaker 4: into some training or just trying to figure out what
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  Speaker 4: those triggers are and trying to trying to deviate away
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  Speaker 4: from those, trying to pull attention to.
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  Speaker 2: Other things, because it shouldn't be that way.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that would be very rare, just from the space
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  Speaker 4: if there's not some underlying thing.
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  Speaker 6: All right, I know that That's what I thought too.
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  Speaker 9: I thought she'd become really mellow, but she's I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, good luck, thank you, bye bye.
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  Speaker 5: Ella. The nanny has a question.
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  Speaker 7: Let's see, it's hang on, should I be concerned when
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  Speaker 7: my cats sneeze in my face. I wash my face
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  Speaker 7: and eyes after it happens, but damn I swear she
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  Speaker 7: does it on perfect I'll be lots of stuff they do,
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  Speaker 7: lots of ready to go to sleep.
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  Speaker 2: And.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, in general not I wouldn't be too worried about that.
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  Speaker 4: There's not a lot of things that we transmit between
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  Speaker 4: each other, you know, except very rare cases of certain things.
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  Speaker 4: But sometimes if they're sneezing a lot, it is me,
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: you know, worth making sure they don't have any other issues.
• 12:51
  Speaker 4: Severe dental disease can actually lead to sinus irritation sneezing,
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  Speaker 4: so making sure the teeth and gums are healthy and everything.
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  Speaker 4: I'm just ruling out medical issues. But in general, it's
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  Speaker 4: it's gross. My cat does it sometimes too, so, but
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  Speaker 4: clean yourself up and in a ship problem.
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  Speaker 1: All right?
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  Speaker 7: Final question here from Hi Janette.
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  Speaker 1: Hello Janette, Hello, where are you calling from South Jordan?
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  Speaker 1: And you have a dog question? Is it your dog?
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  Speaker 10: I do have a dog. Yes, he's five years old
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  Speaker 10: and he's a multie ship through your key mix. He's
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  Speaker 10: about fifteen pounds, so not super big. He's the sweetest
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  Speaker 10: fluffiest little thing. But I have neighbors that are the
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  Speaker 10: best neighbors ever, and he has bitten each member of
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  Speaker 10: the couple. He bit the lady like two weeks ago,
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  Speaker 10: and two years ago he bit the man.
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  Speaker 1: But what's what's what's his name? What's his name? Jimmy, Jimmy?
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  Speaker 6: Actually sorry, his name is Socks.
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  Speaker 1: Oh so Jimmy is a good name too. Yeah, so
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  Speaker 1: that but these are the only people he's bitten.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, huh, Yeah, that's interesting for sure.
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  Speaker 10: Maybe he knows, like they do my yard work and
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  Speaker 10: they do my snow blowing.
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  Speaker 1: He knows something you don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe I'm like, I don't know if they're costing him
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  Speaker 6: in the backyard or what.
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  Speaker 7: Well, if he if he bit them because they were
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  Speaker 7: they in your yard, it could be a territorial thing.
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  Speaker 6: They were in the yard. But I was talking to like,
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  Speaker 6: it was so bizarre because I was just talking to
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  Speaker 6: them at each.
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  Speaker 5: Point and he just ran up and bit them.
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  Speaker 10: Yeah, trying to charge.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, he came out of the house. He's an inside dog,
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  Speaker 6: so he you know, he came out of the house
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  Speaker 6: and yeah, he charged this lesson the other time he
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  Speaker 6: was on a leash. Actually, so yeah, but he got
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  Speaker 6: away from the.
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  Speaker 4: Very It is strange, and I would wonder, you know,
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  Speaker 4: is there some territorial illness or protectiveness whether it's you
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  Speaker 4: or the yard or the territory or whatever.
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  Speaker 2: There shouldn't be, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Again, if he's only doing it to them, there's probably
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  Speaker 4: some some sort of thing that that's stimmy reading that,
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  Speaker 4: and so I think one thing you could try over
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  Speaker 4: time is just to try and do get in more
• 15:05
  Speaker 4: use to them in those situations, you know, on a
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  Speaker 4: leash to start with, and just see if if you
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  Speaker 4: can make some changes over time.
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  Speaker 2: I bet if you gave you bet.
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  Speaker 1: If you showed me a picture of Jimmy, I wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: like his looks.
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  Speaker 6: Well, yeah, that's the funniest part. They're just totally innocuous
• 15:21
  Speaker 6: and super nice people.
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  Speaker 4: So I can't figure Yeah, dogs work differently, so you
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  Speaker 4: just got to figure out what it is and just
• 15:27
  Speaker 4: try to work away from.
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  Speaker 1: It or just keep him away from them.
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, worst case scenario for sure, we put up.
• 15:33
  Speaker 6: A baby gate so.
• 15:34
  Speaker 10: You can't get out with the dog anyway most of
• 15:37
  Speaker 10: the time.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thank you, thanks, good story, thank you. All right,
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: Well there we go, doctor Josh Davis, thank you so much.
• 15:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, always a pleasure. Guys see in a couple of weeks.
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: Thank you.