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- 0:14Hi everyone, you were listening to the Big Home Ed Conversations
- 0:20podcast. I am Ashley Venario and I'm here
- 0:24with a special episode today. This is one of our book club
- 0:28episodes and we are going to discuss the Four hour School Day
- 0:33by Dorinda Wilson. And let me start by saying I
- 0:39didn't know much about this before diving in.
- 0:41Honestly, I was interested in it because the title was on trend
- 0:46with other books out there. All these books about the two
- 0:49day work week, the four hour work week.
- 0:51And this book takes that same approach where less is more and
- 0:55you can be efficient in what you're doing at home in a way
- 0:59that you can't enter traditional school setting.
- 1:02Overall with this book, I will say I was pleasantly surprised.
- 1:07I was surprised by how encouraging it was and I think
- 1:10it offers practical advice for those who are new to home
- 1:14education. Now before I get too far, I do
- 1:18want to give you a heads up. This book is very faith-based.
- 1:23The author writes openly from her Christian perspective.
- 1:26She quotes the Bible, she talks about her relationship with God
- 1:30and that's really woven throughout.
- 1:32I didn't realize that going in. And I know for some people
- 1:35that's going to be a selling point, while for others it might
- 1:38be a little off putting. But here's the thing, even if
- 1:41you're not religious, there is still so much in this book that
- 1:44applies to all home educators. You can skip the faith parts or
- 1:48adapt them to your own worldview because the core message about
- 1:52homeschooling is incredibly relatable.
- 1:56The author is a homeschooling mom of eight, so she is
- 1:59definitely in a position to share her expertise here.
- 2:03Her youngest was 12 when she wrote this, and her oldest was
- 2:0630. So she's lived through every
- 2:08stage of home schooling, from babies to toddlers, all the way
- 2:13through high school and launching kids into adulthood.
- 2:16And that expertise really comes through.
- 2:19She's not speaking in theory. She's sharing what actually
- 2:21worked for her family, what she struggled with, and what she's
- 2:25learned along the way. One of her first big points that
- 2:29she makes, and I loved this, is about the amount of time
- 2:32homeschooling actually takes. So many of us, especially when
- 2:37we're new, feel like we have to recreate school at home.
- 2:40You know the 8:00 AM to 4:00 PM grind sitting at the table
- 2:44plowing through subject after subject.
- 2:47But Dorinda reminds us that learning at home is way more
- 2:50efficient. You are not managing 30 kids.
- 2:52You're not spending half the day on classroom management.
- 2:55You can actually tailor the learning to your child, which
- 2:59means you can get more done in less time.
- 3:01And that's where the whole 4 hour school day idea comes in.
- 3:06But she's clear that this doesn't mean parents should be
- 3:08hovering over their kids every second.
- 3:11Home schooling, in her view, isn't about control.
- 3:15It's about creating an environment where our kids can
- 3:17grow at their own pace. They become independent thinkers
- 3:22and really just discover who they are.
- 3:25I found that reminder so refreshing, especially in a
- 3:28world where it's just easy to get caught up in comparison,
- 3:32social media, Instagram, all of that or, you know, or to feel
- 3:35like we're not doing enough, which is also, my gosh, so easy
- 3:39to to kind of fall into. And of course, no conversation
- 3:45about homeschooling would be complete without that one
- 3:49question we all get. But what about socialization,
- 3:53right? I loved her answer.
- 3:55If you read anything, read this chapter, the one about the
- 3:58sacred cow in her book. OK, I would quote it if it
- 4:03wasn't copyright infringement, so go go look it up.
- 4:08I loved her answer. She makes this distinction
- 4:11between socialization, which is usually about fitting into a
- 4:15peer group, often through conformity, and socializing,
- 4:20which is about actually knowing how to interact with people of
- 4:22all ages. And let's be honest, homeschool
- 4:25kids get tons of practice with that.
- 4:27They're in the world with us. They go to the dentist, they're
- 4:29talking to the neighbors, they're chatting with the person
- 4:32at the post office, they're asking questions at the grocery
- 4:35store, right? They're not confined to one room
- 4:37with 30 kids. They're exact same age.
- 4:40I just thought the way she framed it was really helpful,
- 4:43especially if you're looking for a kind and approachable way to
- 4:46answer that question when it comes up.
- 4:49Another theme she keeps coming back to is slowing down.
- 4:53Not cramming our schedules so full that there's no room to
- 4:56breathe. Not letting comparison drive our
- 5:00choices, instead focusing on building consistency, creating
- 5:06rhythms our kids can count on, and most importantly, nurturing
- 5:11our relationships with them. I personally found this really
- 5:17helpful when she just underlined that rhythms and a dependable
- 5:23schedule is really core to creating security for children
- 5:28so that they can then launch into their passions and explore
- 5:34and ask questions because they have this really solid
- 5:36foundation. Because I personally like to fly
- 5:39by the seat of my pants. I like to last minute go to the
- 5:43museum or last minute join that group for what were outing there
- 5:48doing that day. And I often will do that at the
- 5:53sacrifice of the schedule. And so I think that her focus on
- 6:00respecting the place that you are at currently in your
- 6:04homeschooling journey and really just understanding that that
- 6:07consistency and rhythm is important that that just hit
- 6:11home for me. That was a big reminder for me.
- 6:13It was a big take away. She talks a lot about not
- 6:16letting school work steal the joy out of family life, which I
- 6:19know is something, again, I'm reminding myself of often,
- 6:22right? Family comes first.
- 6:25The book itself is organized in a way that makes it pretty easy
- 6:29to pop in and out of. She starts with the why behind
- 6:33homeschooling, but then she moves into the practical early
- 6:37years, middle years, high school, and even college and
- 6:39beyond. She shares stories from her own
- 6:42kids who each took different paths.
- 6:46Some went to college, some didn't, and she's really honest
- 6:49about how those choices played out.
- 6:52Again, I found this really encouraging.
- 6:55Each kid followed their own path and seemed very fulfilled and
- 6:58happy with where they are in their life and careers.
- 7:03Another thing I also appreciated is how she talks about following
- 7:06your child's passions. Even if your child is obsessed
- 7:10with something, whether it's history, art, science, something
- 7:14totally niche on, let them dive into it.
- 7:18That interest might turn into a career, or most likely it won't.
- 7:22Either way, it's building focus, confidence, and a love of
- 7:26learning. She also admits that, like any
- 7:29of us, she doesn't remember much of what she learned in school,
- 7:32whether that's in science or history.
- 7:35You know, despite getting good grades, I got straight A's and
- 7:38can barely remember what I learned in high school science
- 7:41and history. It's only my postgraduate self
- 7:46education self learning that has stuck with me.
- 7:50So why do we force kids to memorize content they'll forget?
- 7:55Instead, help them to learn how to learn and trust that
- 7:59curiosity is going to lead them deeper when it matters.
- 8:03And I know it has for me. So I feel like that's that's
- 8:06just some proof right there. I think one of the reasons this
- 8:10book works so well is because the author is just so
- 8:13encouraging. She's not wagging her finger.
- 8:16She's not telling you you're doing it wrong.
- 8:18She's saying here's what works for us.
- 8:21Here's why you can trust yourself and here's why you
- 8:24don't need to panic. If you're home schooling doesn't
- 8:26look like someone else's, stop looking at Instagram.
- 8:30It's the kind of book that if you're just starting out, it
- 8:33will give you confidence. And if you've been at this for a
- 8:37while, it's a great reminder to just breathe, to step back, to
- 8:42revisit your focus, your why, what matters to you as a family
- 8:48and go from there. I also think it's the kind of
- 8:52book that I would recommend giving to a skeptical family
- 8:55member. It's not harsh.
- 8:57It's it's very approachable and when you have a relative or
- 9:02someone you're close to, I mean, don't just give it to strangers
- 9:04on the street, but like if it's someone you're close to and they
- 9:08tend to ask the questions about socialization always.
- 9:12And if your kids are ever going to go into college, are you
- 9:15going to home school and high school, right.
- 9:17This book is written so kindly that it will help to gently
- 9:23answer those questions without you having to do it one more
- 9:27time because we all know we're old pros by this point.
- 9:30But most importantly, you don't get defensive because I know I
- 9:33sort of shut down anymore at this point.
- 9:35Like if someone's asking me about socialization, I
- 9:39immediately am annoyed. And I think it's just the nature
- 9:44of being asked so many times, right?
- 9:47It's just, it is what it is. So let this book say it for you.
- 9:51At the end of the day, I'd say that the four hour school day is
- 9:55not so much a step by step guide on home schooling, but more of a
- 10:02really big, encouraging cup talk.
- 10:05It's definitely inspiration. It's part practical wisdom.
- 10:08It's part challenge to trust yourself as a parent.
- 10:12The author really makes the case that you don't need a teaching
- 10:15degree, you don't need to know it all, and you definitely don't
- 10:18need to run yourself ragged to give your kids a solid
- 10:20education. What you need is time with them,
- 10:24consistency, and the courage to let them learn in a way that
- 10:29fits who they are. And that's hard.
- 10:32It's really easy said, not easily done.
- 10:36OK, to wrap this up, I was really pleasantly surprised with
- 10:38this book. It's one that I will be keeping
- 10:41on my shelf and definitely recommending to anyone who's
- 10:43either curious about homeschooling or feeling a
- 10:46little bit shaky about their decision to start homeschooling.
- 10:51If you've read it, I would love to hear your thoughts.
- 10:53Please, please share them with me.
- 10:55If you had a chance to read it, I want to hear it.
- 10:59If you just want to comment on some of the things you heard
- 11:02from this podcast, I'd love to hear that as well.
- 11:05As I look to our book for the next book club book, I am going
- 11:10to read Hunt, Gather. Parents, what ancient cultures
- 11:14can teach us about the lost art of raising happy, helpful little
- 11:17humans. It should be good.
- 11:20I'm going to aim to have another short summary podcast like the
- 11:24one we've heard today. I'm trying to get these out
- 11:27weekly, but life gets in the way.
- 11:28So these bonus episodes are just going to come when they come.
- 11:32So hang on. Hopefully this gives you a week
- 11:34or two to catch up or or read it if you want to.
- 11:37Thank you for sticking with me, especially since we did not have
- 11:40Kelly here. For a little variety for your
- 11:43ears, a little back and forth. Thanks for listening to me
- 11:48explain why I think you should read the four hour school day
- 11:54and I look forward to hearing your feedback on this book and
- 11:57on Hunt Gather Parent. Thanks everyone.
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