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The Chicken Sisters Episode 3 (Encore) · Girls Gone Hallmark | Hallmark Movie Reviews

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  Speaker 1: Hi friends, Megan and Wendy Here and in honor of
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark airing The Chicken Sisters on Hallmark Channel, we are
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  Speaker 1: re airing our original reviews and recaps of these episodes
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  Speaker 1: that were originally recorded back in September and October of
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  Speaker 1: twenty twenty four.
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  Speaker 2: So enjoy the Chicken Sisters and enjoy these recaps and reviews.
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  Speaker 2: This is a bramble jam podcast.
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Girls Gone Hallmark, a Hallmark review podcast.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Megan.
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  Speaker 1: I'm a longtime Homemark movie fan.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Wendy.
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  Speaker 2: I'm a former Homemark hater.
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  Speaker 1: I just realized that in the episode we recorded for yesterday,
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  Speaker 1: we had no point said what we were talking about.
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  Speaker 1: Great today you're discussing Chicken Sisters episode three.
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  Speaker 2: Hey, I'm glad we can make somebody happy. I'm going
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  Speaker 2: to keep it real with this episode too. Oh Chicken
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  Speaker 2: Sisters episodes.
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  Speaker 1: Let me tell you if you were not in our
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  Speaker 1: Facebook group, that's where all the hot goss is getting spelled.
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  Speaker 1: And I have to say that there was a lot
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  Speaker 1: of chatter about this episode. There's a lot of talk
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  Speaker 1: about this, a lot of talk about the gene mysteries,
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  Speaker 1: a lot of talk about falling together.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm gonna like put on my box and gloves.
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  Speaker 2: Oh interesting, let's talk An episode synopsis for Chicken Sisters episode.
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  Speaker 1: Three, either titled This is Warriyaw or Desperado.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna get into my complaints here real quick, but
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  Speaker 2: let me read the synopsis. Franny's and Mimi's crews try
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  Speaker 2: to one up each other as the kitchen Clash competition
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  Speaker 2: amps up, but their methods leave sisters Amanda and May conflicted.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, should we dive into our back end complaints?
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  Speaker 2: Sure, you want me to go first.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Can you somebody at Hallmark figure out what we're calling
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  Speaker 2: these episodes? Like, can there be some consistencies somewhere like
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  Speaker 2: we mentioned on last week's episode on IMDb? Now IMDb
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  Speaker 2: is like user generated content, right, anybody can put that
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  Speaker 2: information in there. But whoever named these episodes on IMDb,
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  Speaker 2: It's completely different than what Hallmark is calling them. So
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  Speaker 2: can we just figure it out? That's my first complaint.
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  Speaker 2: The second complaint is Hallmark pr is not updating their
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  Speaker 2: information on their press release site for these episodes. Uh huh.
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  Speaker 2: I was telling Megan yesterday off Mike, I was like,
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  Speaker 2: the writer and director is completely different in this particular
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  Speaker 2: episode than it is on the press release. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The credits of the episode show different names than the
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  Speaker 1: press release does. Yes, so let's talk about that. According
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  Speaker 1: to the opening credits of the show, this episode was
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  Speaker 1: written by Jessica Wood and directed by Paul Fox. The
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  Speaker 1: press release still lists Annie McBain as the writer and
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  Speaker 1: Kimmy Gatewood as the director.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think it's like sloppy. I just yeah,
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  Speaker 2: give credit words. Do you want to be able to
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  Speaker 2: give credit whereds? Do? I don't want to be on
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  Speaker 2: hair saying Kimmy Gatewood directed this and she didn't, and.
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  Speaker 1: Then it makes us look bad and then we get
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  Speaker 1: messages and sometimes it's our fault. But in this case,
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  Speaker 1: we're doing our best. The information is inconsistent.
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  Speaker 2: What did you say about Hallmark yesterday? You thought they
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  Speaker 2: were maybe flying too close to the sun? Oh, I
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  Speaker 2: said Hallmark.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, Hallmark said a lot on their plate, and I
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  Speaker 1: just that was my exact comment. Hallmark may have flown
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  Speaker 1: too close to the sun with this season, with dropping
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  Speaker 1: Hallmark plus with dropping so much new content.
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  Speaker 2: Now that being said, the.
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  Speaker 1: Number of people who care about what we care about
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  Speaker 1: hosting the actual content.
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  Speaker 2: As a real minuscule. Sure, So from a consumer.
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  Speaker 1: Standpoint, I'm all in on a company that wants to
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  Speaker 1: give me more content. Yeah, nobody but us really cares
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  Speaker 1: about this stuff. There's such a small percentage of people
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  Speaker 1: that are digging into this information.
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  Speaker 2: It's us and I'm sure Jessica would and Paul Fox,
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  Speaker 2: who actually worked on I'm sure they care. Yes, we
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  Speaker 2: just want everybody to get in line, that's all. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: a couple more news and notes.
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  Speaker 1: We do meet two new characters in this episode, Pastor McGregor,
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  Speaker 1: who was played by Matthew James Dowd, and he is
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  Speaker 1: a handful of Hallmark projects like Dream Mom's The Holidaysitter
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  Speaker 1: and When Calls the Heart and IMDb tells us we
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  Speaker 1: will see him again in episodes five and eight.
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  Speaker 2: We also met Jervis, who I called the Chicken Guy.
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  Speaker 2: He's the chicken farmer guy, the chicken distributor. He has
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  Speaker 2: absolutely no credit on IMDb, so I wish I could
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  Speaker 2: tell you what his name is. I don't know it.
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  Speaker 2: We also Gruster, Gruster, You're right, he was not listed
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  Speaker 2: on IMDb either. That's why it takes me six hours
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  Speaker 2: to prep for movies is because I look at one site,
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  Speaker 2: and then I look at another site, and then I
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  Speaker 2: cross checked to see anything listed anywhere, and there was it.
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  Speaker 2: So shout out justice for Jervis, justice for Jarvis and Gruster.
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  Speaker 1: Let's take a quick break and we'll come right back
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  Speaker 1: with more Chicken sisters. All right, let's dive into some
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  Speaker 1: key events in this episode. Okay, this episode focuses really strongly,
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  Speaker 1: I feel, on the differences between May and Amanda in
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  Speaker 1: their personalities and what we see. The long and short
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  Speaker 1: of it is May is always looking towards her future.
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  Speaker 1: She's looking towards the next thing, like what's next, What's next,
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  Speaker 1: bigger and better?
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  Speaker 2: And Aana lives.
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  Speaker 1: In her memories right, real focused on the sentimentality and
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  Speaker 1: then the memories, and what I I liked is it
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  Speaker 1: gives us some insight as to perhaps why Amanda is
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  Speaker 1: stuck in this relationship where she's very clearly unhappy. We
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  Speaker 1: have this whole arc with Frank Junior that we'll talk about,
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  Speaker 1: but towards the end it comes back around and the
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  Speaker 1: narrator calls Frank Junior's sentimental brick of bract brack is
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  Speaker 1: like a.
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  Speaker 2: Like a chut. I see it's good, so right.
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  Speaker 1: That's just part. She's living in the memories like how
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  Speaker 1: she fell for him and he's not that person anymore,
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  Speaker 1: and we obviously see that she finally decides he actually
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  Speaker 1: isn't that person. Frank Junior is a real, big, strong
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  Speaker 1: part of this episode.
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  Speaker 2: Sure, and how did.
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  Speaker 1: You feel about what's happening with Frank Junior here?
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  Speaker 2: Well, my first question is, does Frank have a problem
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  Speaker 2: with alcohol? And they're like tiptoeing around it. I didn't
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  Speaker 2: find them to be tiptoeing around it. Okay, why aren't
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  Speaker 2: we just out addressing it. Then we saw it in
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  Speaker 2: the first episode he was drinking when Amanda came home
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  Speaker 2: and like was kind of real shitty to Amanda. And
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  Speaker 2: then we see it in this episode where his mom Nancy. First, okay,
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  Speaker 2: let me back it up. She gives him that sign
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  Speaker 2: how to be a great businessman or whatever it is, right,
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  Speaker 2: and one of the like lines on it is to
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  Speaker 2: the Gentleman's Guides to business, serve your customers and not
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  Speaker 2: yourself or whatever. Right, And so he kind of steps
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  Speaker 2: into this like, yeah, I'm gonna take over my daddy's
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  Speaker 2: role for literally one day, and tells his mom go
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  Speaker 2: ahead and go home. I'm going to close up the restaurant.
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  Speaker 2: She comes back because she has forgotten something and he's there,
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  Speaker 2: like six beers in and she's like, what happened? What
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  Speaker 2: are you doing? So, like the whole Frank storyline, it's
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  Speaker 2: just only scratching the surface, like I need to This
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  Speaker 2: is my whole entire problem with this episode. Too, and
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  Speaker 2: I will talk about it, but it's just scratching the surface.
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  Speaker 2: I need more information.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't.
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  Speaker 2: I think you're right.
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  Speaker 1: I don't think we've dug in enough on Frank Junior
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  Speaker 1: because we're so focused on the Amanda and May and
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  Speaker 1: Mimi's and Franny's war of it all. Like I think
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  Speaker 1: we're really deep on the Amanda and May rivalry. They
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  Speaker 1: made other references, like when they start filming in another
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  Speaker 1: episode at Franny's and they're like, you know, they just
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  Speaker 1: want Frank to keep it together.
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  Speaker 2: For me.
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  Speaker 1: The whole Frank thing, I was like, I didn't believe
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  Speaker 1: it because his mom brings him this sign and you're right,
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  Speaker 1: He's like, I'm going to be a better man because
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  Speaker 1: my daddy. And he puts on the shirt his mom
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  Speaker 1: gives him, and.
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  Speaker 2: He like is sweet to Amanda. He's like the morning sunshine.
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  Speaker 2: It's not who this guy is.
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  Speaker 1: This guy's like, I'm not going to in my mind,
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  Speaker 1: the Frank that we know is the kind of guy
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  Speaker 1: who's gonna be like, I'm not gonna do this for you, like,
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  Speaker 1: stop trying to change who I am. And I maybe
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  Speaker 1: it's because his mom was like giving him a chance
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  Speaker 1: to like be the he just feels really beaten down
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  Speaker 1: to me, Like he just to me, he seems really
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  Speaker 1: unhappy in his life, really unhappy, like his wife's not
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  Speaker 1: good enough, his job's not good enough, nobody takes him seriously,
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  Speaker 1: and so maybe this was his chance to like be
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  Speaker 1: the person he thinks he deserves to.
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  Speaker 2: Be, which is his dad.
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  Speaker 1: I just didn't believe that he was going to buy
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  Speaker 1: in that quickly.
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  Speaker 2: Frank's a piece of shit.
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  Speaker 1: And then he's like, don't worry, I'll clean up. And
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  Speaker 1: then he realizes, oh, this is hard work, and a
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  Speaker 1: man is like, yeah, no shit, I've been doing every
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  Speaker 1: single freaking night. Yeah, this is where the hell have
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  Speaker 1: you been? Right, And then that's the point in what
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  Speaker 1: she like breaks down and then he's mad at the world.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, and she gets in turn mad at him. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: And we'll talk about her in a minute. But if
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  Speaker 2: I can just further say, I need Nancy to pull
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  Speaker 2: up her big girl panties and lay into Frank. Nancy's
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  Speaker 2: the mom. Yes, she's so like delicate with him, but
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  Speaker 2: this is an adult who is as a terrible human
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  Speaker 2: to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And we're coming in at like acts three, right,
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  Speaker 1: because this is who Frank has been. This isn't new behavior, right,
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  Speaker 1: It's who he is. Now.
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  Speaker 2: We just met him.
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  Speaker 1: We just met Frank, and we just met Nancy, and
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  Speaker 1: we just met all of these people. But this is
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  Speaker 1: the man that Nancy's been living with and around for
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  Speaker 1: so long. And I agree she's just giving him chance
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  Speaker 1: after chance after chanceh Honey, I thought you might like this, son,
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  Speaker 1: Sure you might like you show them who you are
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  Speaker 1: with your knowledge.
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  Speaker 2: About taps as a mall.
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  Speaker 1: I can understand wanting the best for your kids.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and I can imagine how.
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  Speaker 1: Hard it would be to be like, get your shit together,
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  Speaker 1: you suck.
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  Speaker 2: But at the same time, if I saw.
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  Speaker 1: My son treating his wife the way Frank treats Amanda,
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  Speaker 1: I'd be like.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely not. Yeah, but I think this is where I
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  Speaker 2: think that Frank Senior must have treated Nancy that way. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: we don't have a backstory on that, and we don't
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  Speaker 2: know that, but I feel like patterns repeat them. And
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  Speaker 2: also I think maybe the culture there allows for men
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  Speaker 2: to not treat their wives that great.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, because what is Frank Junior's origin story? What caused
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  Speaker 1: him to be just this kind of shell of a person,
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  Speaker 1: who's so unhappy.
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  Speaker 2: With his life. Is it is it that.
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  Speaker 1: Frank Sor treated Nancy that way?
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  Speaker 2: We don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Is it that he just kind of expected because it
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  Speaker 1: seems to me like Frank Senior was respected in town.
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  Speaker 1: Even Frank Junior's like, you're not daddy, Like to Nay,
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  Speaker 1: that was.
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  Speaker 2: The meanest comment ever. I would have my head would
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  Speaker 2: have blown off my shoulders if my kid would have
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  Speaker 2: said something like that to me.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, but so where is all of this coming from? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what did you want out of life that you don't have?
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  Speaker 2: What is so disappointing? Yeah, we don't have any contexts.
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  Speaker 2: And I you've read the book, but it's wildly different. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: Bring Junior's not in the book. Yeah, he's good. So
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  Speaker 2: we just don't know. I have Gus and maybe in
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  Speaker 2: a key event like their stuff. Yeah. I was kind
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  Speaker 2: of heartbroken for Gus A little me too.
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  Speaker 1: You know, all this time, Gus is gruff, she's tough, right,
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  Speaker 1: but I felt like she was touched by May making
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  Speaker 1: the choice to come home.
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  Speaker 2: Mmm.
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  Speaker 1: And when Gus sees the truth behind May's motivation to
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  Speaker 1: come home and realizes, you didn't do.
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  Speaker 2: This for me, You did this for you, m h.
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  Speaker 2: I really felt for her. I did too, because we
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  Speaker 2: see Gus throughout the entire entire episode kind of ride
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  Speaker 2: for May. Like she hears like two women talking about
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  Speaker 2: me and she says something to them, and then she's
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  Speaker 2: like proud of May's success. And I think she's thankful
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  Speaker 2: for May helping financially with the for the chickens and
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  Speaker 2: all that stuff, whatever she's helping on. She's really proud
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  Speaker 2: of May. I think she's happy May's back. And then
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  Speaker 2: when she comes to the realization via Amanda that May
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  Speaker 2: is just there for one reason only and to get
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  Speaker 2: back on TV, it felt for Gus. I really felt
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  Speaker 2: for Gus.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and May, like we really realized like kind of
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  Speaker 1: how self centered May is.
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  Speaker 2: Here flashback to Kenneth coming to visit her. He's like,
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  Speaker 2: I'll get.
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  Speaker 1: You next time, like he's already there. Yeah, And she
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  Speaker 1: did it only because she was so ashamed of the
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  Speaker 1: job right she had taken. And I laughed out loud
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  Speaker 1: when they're like you gotta do the Donka Donk dance,
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  Speaker 1: but Kenneth is like whatever, man, Like we all have
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  Speaker 1: jobs that we just got to do to get by,
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  Speaker 1: Like I.
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  Speaker 2: Was your friend. Yeah, to me, May operates on secrets.
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  Speaker 2: She does not want to live in her truth at
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  Speaker 2: all about like where she comes from or how she
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  Speaker 2: got there to where she's at now, Like she operates
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  Speaker 2: even with her fiance.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, and he's like, this weird charge just came through
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  Speaker 1: on your card.
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  Speaker 2: Is it some farm to a table place?
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  Speaker 1: And then he was like, it's all right, you can
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  Speaker 1: get him out of it, don't you guys know?
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  Speaker 2: The governor? Yeah, how can you live a life like this?
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  Speaker 2: I don't know. And we just talked about it when
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  Speaker 2: we reviewed Danube, about like giving grace when you're fudging,
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  Speaker 2: like the truth a little bit. May's gone too far
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  Speaker 2: at this point, like that would break up a relationship.
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  Speaker 2: This isn't so much. She's just met no cage.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's made up all these lies about why
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't know them and where she comes from, right,
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  Speaker 1: And it just comes from a place of shame. And
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  Speaker 1: it doesn't make you look better to look down on
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  Speaker 1: your origins and to look down on your family.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. There's a lot of people
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  Speaker 2: who are not proud of where they come from.
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  Speaker 1: Right, But you're not better than those people. Agree, Particularly look,
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  Speaker 1: Gus has issues, And I would imagine that growing up
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  Speaker 1: in a house like that would be traumatic and would
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  Speaker 1: be unstable, and you wouldn't be the kind of place
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  Speaker 1: you'd want to bring friends home to, and it wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: be the kind of home you'd come home after school.
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  Speaker 2: And feel like you could relax and feel safe. Right.
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  Speaker 1: I get all of that, but that none of that
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  Speaker 1: makes Gus a bad person. That made Gus a person
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  Speaker 1: who was dealing with some shit. And I still think
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  Speaker 1: we don't we haven't been given all of the information
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  Speaker 1: about why Gus is the way that she is. But
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  Speaker 1: you just look down on all of these people.
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  Speaker 2: It makes me unlikable. Yes, I want to talk about
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  Speaker 2: the scene where May goes to Gus's house and they're
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  Speaker 2: standing in the doorway, right, and finally, like we the
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  Speaker 2: door opens to Gus's house and you see it's just
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  Speaker 2: packed to the to the front door. Yeah, all the
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  Speaker 2: way up. Feelings like she obviously has a hoarding issue there,
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  Speaker 2: that all of that is very dark, and like I
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  Speaker 2: said before, like we're just scratching the surface. Like I
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  Speaker 2: feel like I need more, I honestly need less hygienks
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  Speaker 2: in terms of like pranking and all that stuff, the
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  Speaker 2: whole kitchen clash, rivalry, nonsense, get me into I need
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  Speaker 2: more into the like this family history. And I was
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: thinking about this. I was thinking about The Way Home.
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  Speaker 2: And I know we have had two seasons of The
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: Way Home at this point, but when I think about
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  Speaker 2: Dell and Kat and how their relationship is strained and
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  Speaker 2: it's filled with her and pain and they've hurt each other,
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  Speaker 2: it gives way more context to the story that's being
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  Speaker 2: presented in that show than what we have here. Like
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  Speaker 2: I I feel like this show was promoted as this
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  Speaker 2: like rival restaurants and what's gonna come of that, and
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: not really like this dark history of this family. Yes,
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: it's just not getting there for me well.
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: And I also think when you think about The Way
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Home versus The Chicken Sisters, the Chicken Sisters is trying to.
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: Do a lot.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: The Way Home is about Kat and Dell and Alice,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: and yes, there's a lot of other characters involved, but
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: at the heart of it, it's about the three of them,
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: and they focus really strongly on the three of them,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and they wait to build out a lot of those
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: other relationships. It takes some time before we learn more
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: about Colton it takes time before we learn more about Elliott,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: and I don't feel like this show has done that,
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: and I think probably because.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: It is written.
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: It's a book adaptation as opposed to a show that
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: was written directly for television and trying to stay true.
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: We we're thrown into the fire of this first episode,
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: and there's May and Amanda. There's Amanda and Gus. There's
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: May and Gus. There's Amanda and Frank, there's Nancy and Frank.
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: There's all of these these relationships, and we're trying.
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: To do it. Kenneth and May.
• 19:15
  Speaker 1: We're trying to do so much right now, May and
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Jay that it's all surfacing.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: It is very surfaced.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I still enjoy the show, and perhaps it's because
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: I've read the book, because I know where that story goes,
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: that I still believe in our ability to bring it
• 19:34
  Speaker 1: all back around. This episode, like you said, was so
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: heavy on hygienks. I'm like, stop pranking each other. You
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: are adult women. This is ridiculous. Like you're gonna go
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: in and sabotage the sweet tea. That doesn't even seem
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: like Amanda like behavior to me, right, But then you
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: see all of these women at their breaking point, Like
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: May is at her breaking point with Gus and is like,
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: this is why I never came home. This is not
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: a safe place for me. Amanda has her moment where
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: she's like, my mom disowned me because I married someone
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: who worked for a different chicken restaurant. My sister left
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: and is ashamed of us. My husband sucks. Like you
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: can kind of see why she's at her breaking point.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: And I felt like the scene at the end where
• 20:15
  Speaker 1: she starts destroying things that Mimi's felt more like the
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: kind of reaction a woman who was like, my life
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: is out of control and it is not the life
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I wanted than like tainting the sweet tea.
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so let's talk about that. A scene my note, say,
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: Amanda's good girl run comes to an end.
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: Oh she mine says, oh shit, the kiss.
• 20:38
  Speaker 2: In all caps. Well, we'll get there. She fights with
• 20:42
  Speaker 2: Frank Junior, right because they he has convinced her, Yeah,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: let's go, let's go back, let's do whatever this this
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: like unknown sabotage.
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: Frank's like pissed and he I feel like he's he's
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: egging Amanda on, like Okay, we're gonna go do this. Yeah,
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: let's go do this, do this, and any flakes. Right,
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: So she's pissed, but now is she really pissed enough
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: to like go and destroy things at her mother's restaurant.
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: It's so extreme, but it's gets so extreation of Like
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: she's like, this town has always judged me because I
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: was a Mimi's girl. Then I became a Frannies girl
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: and my mom disowned me, and all of these things
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: are piling up and she's like, what do you want
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: from me?
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: I hear you. I just don't think it was executed
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: that well. But at the same time, I'm like, would
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: you really do this to your mom? Like knowing they
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: had her like slashing like bags of flower but she
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: was going to unplug the refrigerator for all their stuff
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: to spoil. Like that's just cold and heartless. That's beyond
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: like putting salt in the sweet tea or whatever she
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: did to it, you know, sister painting over her son. Yeah,
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: it was.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: But then even beyond this, Sergio walks in and catches her, yeah,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: and they have the steamy kiss, like he lifts her
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: on the counter, and I was like, I can't even
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: be excited about this. No, she's still married. Like, I
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: understand you're mad, but it doesn't excuse to be like
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: you're cheating, your big old cheater.
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: To me, her kissing him, like I know that they
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: have been kind of like sparring a little bit, And
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: I say sparring on as like fighting, but like flirting
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: whise right for the last couple episodes. To me, she's
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: not attracted to him, like she doesn't want to like
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: have an affair with him because she has feelings for
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: this guy. I think she's just pissed at Frank Junior,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: and so she's like, yeah, I'm gonna get back. This
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: is how many back at you.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was weird because I didn't find the first
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: couple episodes I thought there was like, oh, some interest brewing,
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: But in this episode, I didn't find there to be
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: steaminess between.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: Two of them. And No, he was annoyed with her,
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: yeah time, especially when he confronts her when she's sitting
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: in the car like laughing and watching all the customers
• 23:02
  Speaker 2: like coming out because they had bad tea or whatever,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: and he's like, what are you doing?
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, like why are you doing this to your mom?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: Like that makes you look real ugly? M M uh,
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: like win on your own merit.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So it was kind of weird that he like
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: grabbed her and they had this like.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Yes because even like she runs that lady over and
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: he walks hero, He's like, you owe me. But like
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: that's kind of a funny moment, right that she like
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: backs into her and he's like, now he's got to
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: be her boy toy for the afternoon. Yeah, but I
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: was like, you this moment of like we didn't make
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: up for it.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: I don't know, I didn't love it.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: And as much as I'm kind of like, yeah, Frank sucks,
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I wish Amanda was with someone who appreciated her for
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: who she is.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: This isn't what I wanted. Mm hmm. Yeah. I can't
• 23:45
  Speaker 2: even get excited. I've watched plenty of shows where I
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: get excited that somebody's like having an a fair. It
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: makes it it's salacious. You get like like I'm not
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: gonna be like grabbing my pearls and being like, oh
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: my god, they're having a fair. I can't watch this stuff. Yeah,
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Like I can be entertained by entertainment that is not
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: morally correct.
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: Wasn't earned, And I agree, absolutely agree. I feel like
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: this was a moment that should have come.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Drag it out later. Yeah, yeah, I'm curious to see
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: where it's all going. Well, how about Nancy sees them
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: and knocks on the door, Hello, I see you, Yes,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: my gosh. Yeah.
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: So that's the part that it's like that feels rushed
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: to me because now I got Nancy knows, so there's
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: no secret. Yeah, it's not like she's carrying around this secret.
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: Nancy knows. Yeah, I don't know how Amanda's gonna go
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: to Nancy with her tail between her legs and be
• 24:47
  Speaker 2: like I'm so souleriating don't you see that happening?
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: I do, And I'm I'm envisioning the scene because Nancy
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: was almost to the point after Frank saying you're no daddy,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: It was almost to the point where Nancy was like
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: done right, Like you could see like all right.
• 25:06
  Speaker 2: I tried. Yeah, but she doesn't leave mad. She's like disappointed.
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: It's Dody peacoat or whatever whatever it is.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: Yes, but I certainly think she's disappointed, like he has
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: thrown this at her and she was like I've done
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: everything for you. But I could see that being the
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: moment where she's like I'm done. I'm team Amanda here
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: and then Amanda goes and ruins it. But the other
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: thing Frank Junior said that I forgot that was so terrible?
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: Is he says about Amanda they were lucky to have
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: me classing up their family tree?
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: Mmmmm, I was like, what a term? Totally question. What
• 25:42
  Speaker 2: was Nancy going to Mimi's for that night? She going
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: over there? Did Frank see that Amanda was over there
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: doing like ruining things?
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: And I don't think he told her specifically, But I
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: don't know if she was going over to stop something?
• 26:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah, was she going over there to stop something? Or
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: was she going over there to try to get her
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: money back for overpaying for the chicken or what was
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: her motivation for being there? I don't know. I don't think.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I don't think she'd begin trying to get her money
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: back because I think she knows that Gus needed.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: That money because Amanda Saba true lunch rush. I don't know.
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: I have one more even Let's talk about Sabrina first.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a Sabrina continues to produce the hell out
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: of this show. Obviously, she I don't want to say
• 26:35
  Speaker 2: she didn't blackmail her own daughter, but she encouraged her
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: own daughter to. I mean, she obviously wanted the pranks
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: and the sabotage to happen. She saw that Frankie was
• 26:46
  Speaker 2: telling her mom, calling her mom out on it. She
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: wanted to get Frankie out of the situation so Amanda
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: would continue to do this stuff to make for TV.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Right when we see that flashback of Sabrina offering Lindsay
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: the opportunity get her phone back, having seen the moments
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: between Lindsay and Frankie where Lindsay was kind of trying
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: to be the better person, else like, yeah, well, I
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: feel so bad for Frankie.
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and a shitty thing to do. She's like, oh,
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: you actually have talent. Yeah, I feel bad for her.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Ohs I know, not great, not too great. I am
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: on the flip side, interested in seeing something blossomed between
• 27:24
  Speaker 2: Sabrina and Gruster. Me too. I wrote, oh new character
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: unlaw Yeah, I'm into that. But then again, I'm not
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: into that because too many things going on in a
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: forty five minute episode. It's hard. It's hard now. If
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: I can mention our Facebook group, somebody was like, I'm
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: having a really hard time getting into the show because
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: no one is likable, and I have to agree with that,
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: with the exception of Kenneth. I like Kenneth, oh yeah.
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: And I know Sabrina is not supposed to be like either,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: but she's fun. But she's fun to watch. But your
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: major players, I don't like any of them.
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: Even Nancy, who seems like she's the most easily likable.
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: You just want to smack her. I want to shake
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: her and be like, wake up.
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Don't let your child walk all over you.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Right if. Maybe Gus is the only person that I'm
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: kind of rooting for, that's interesting only because Gus is
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: dealing with a lot of stuff. I am. I'm rooting
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: for her in terms of helping her in her current situation.
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: But I don't. I don't really like a May. I
• 28:43
  Speaker 2: don't like May. I don't I really don't like Amanda.
• 28:47
  Speaker 2: This is this is their key star on this show,
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: and I don't like her. I'm curious to see the turnaround.
• 28:56
  Speaker 2: I hope there is one. I hope there is one
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: for me. Are you ready to move on? I am
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: to collect worthy moments. I have two. Actually, I really
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: enjoyed the flashback with Kenneth in New York City and
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: the whole Sex and the City was so funny. It
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: was so funny to me, we'd have them pre made
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: for the tourists. I thought it was hilarious. I thought
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: it was really funny. The other part, and I mentioned
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: the other scene or moment that I mentioned earlier, was
• 29:29
  Speaker 2: when we see inside of Gus's house and her it
• 29:32
  Speaker 2: was very emotional. I thought it was the pullback. Yeah, standing, yeah,
• 29:39
  Speaker 2: and she just has to let may have her moment
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: and then are you finished? And she shuts the doors. Yeah,
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: that was great, how about you? Those are both great.
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: I mentioned this. I the narrator has a lot of
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: great moments. I'm glad we have the.
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: Narrator keeping things going in the background. The through line
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: about giving us a little more insight into why Amanda
• 30:04
  Speaker 1: puts up with the things that she does. When she
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: calls frank emotional bric a brac is an amazing line,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: and I like. I also like that Frankie is kind
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: of this good girl, right like she even though she's
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: gotten in trouble and she's like, yes, Mammy, her mom.
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: She also was working the system when she brings out
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: she knows that the photo album is gonna distract her mom.
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: Enough to get her off her case, and so we
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: get that inside of like, yeah, I'm a good student,
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: I'm getting out of this town, but.
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: I'm still a teenager who's going to manipulate the hell
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: out of my mom. Sure.
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: I also thought the line May says to Kenneth, we
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: were children and now our skincare regimes include Retina.
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: It's great, that was great. That was great. Who's your father?
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Friend of the week? For me, it's Jake Foy as Kenneth.
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: I think he brings a nice levity to the sh
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: show when it's needed. He's he's very funny, like I
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: wish he had a bigger role, actually you.
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: For me, it's Sergio because he's the only one calling
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: these people on their shit, and he really gets up
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: in Amanda's face, like what are you doing to your mom?
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: Like the whole point is this stupid kitchen competition.
• 31:19
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a question for you, and I know
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: you read the book. How big does the show play
• 31:27
  Speaker 2: in the book as big as it does here? It's
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: not very big. I feel like we never see them.
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: First of all, they're hardly in the restaurant, working hardly.
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: But it's everything is because of the show.
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: Like, no, I understand that, and I I'm trying to
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: envision because I thought like this reality kitchen class show
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: was going to be like about cooking.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: Right. Yeah, So in the book, which I think is
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: what's happening here, they spend a couple of days like
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: getting to know the people they do, like watching.
• 32:01
  Speaker 2: The run of the restaurant.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: And then they have they bring in judges with an
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: actual Oh okay, so I think we might be leading
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: up to that.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, can this go for a season two?
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: Well, I'm talked about this before, but the book ends
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: there's kind of a change of direction, and so I
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: think it can.
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: But does the source of conflict is going to change?
• 32:24
  Speaker 2: The kitchen clash part gets completely eliminated from it. Yeah, Okay,
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: we don't rate these, do we. Nope? Okay, I'm hoping
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: it turns around for me a little bit because first
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: episode I loved, second episode, third episode, I'm I'm I'm hoping.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: I'm hoping it comes together. We shall see New Chicken
• 32:50
  Speaker 2: Sisters review out next week. Come back for that. We'll
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: see you next time. Goodbye bye?
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