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Red Sonja (1985) · Verbal Diorama

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Hi
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everyone.
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I'm
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Em,
2:18
and
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welcome
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to
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Verbal
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Diorama,
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episode
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309,
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Red
2:22
Sonja.
2:23
This
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is
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the
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podcast
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that's
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all
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about
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the
2:24
history
2:24
and
2:24
legacy
2:25
of
2:25
movies
2:25
you
2:25
know
2:26
and
2:26
movies
2:26
you
2:26
don't.
2:27
And
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no
2:27
man
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may
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have
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me
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unless
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he's
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beaten
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me
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in
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fair
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fight.
2:31
And
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that
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is
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true.
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Welcome
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to
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Verbal
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Diorama.
2:34
Whether
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you're
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a
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branbrand-newdnewlistener,whetheryou'rearegularreturninglistener,thank
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you
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for
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being
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here.
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Thank
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you
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for
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choosing
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to
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listen
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to
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this
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podcast.
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I
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am
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so
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happy
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to
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have
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you
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here
2:42
for
2:42
the
2:42
history
2:43
and
2:43
legacy
2:44
of
2:44
Red
2:44
Sonja.
2:46
And
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if
2:46
you
2:46
are
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a
2:47
regular
2:47
returning
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listener,
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thank
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you
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for
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continuing
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to
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listen
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to
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this
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podcast
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and
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coming
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back
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and
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continuing
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to
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support
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this
2:54
podcast
2:55
over
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the
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last
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six
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years
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and
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over
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300
2:57
episodes.
2:58
Genuinely
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blows
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my
2:59
mind
2:59
that
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people
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still
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keep
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coming
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back
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to
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this
3:01
podcast
3:02
or
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that
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I
3:02
still
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keep
3:03
putting
3:03
episodes
3:03
out
3:04
of
3:04
this
3:04
podcast.
3:05
But
3:05
it
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genuinely
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means
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so
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much
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to
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have
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you
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return.
3:08
Even
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if
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you
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don't
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return
3:09
for
3:09
every
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episode.
3:10
I'm
3:11
really
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glad
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that
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you
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return
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for
3:12
some
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episodes.
3:13
So
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thank
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you
3:14
so
3:14
much.
3:14
And
3:15
if
3:15
this
3:15
is
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your
3:15
first
3:16
time
3:16
to
3:16
this
3:16
podcast,
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you
3:17
are
3:17
so
3:18
very
3:18
welcome
3:18
and
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I
3:19
hope
3:20
you
3:20
enjoy
3:20
this
3:20
episode
3:21
on
3:21
Red
3:21
Sonja.
3:23
Last
3:23
episode
3:24
was
3:24
Black
3:25
Widow,
3:26
a
3:26
female
3:27
Marvel
3:27
Comics
3:27
character
3:28
who
3:28
was
3:28
long
3:28
overdue.
3:29
Her
3:29
own
3:30
solo
3:30
film
3:30
within
3:31
the
3:31
mcu
3:32
and
3:33
just
3:33
how
3:33
long
3:34
it
3:34
actually
3:34
took
3:34
for
3:35
Natasha
3:35
to
3:35
finally
3:36
get
3:36
her
3:36
dues,
3:37
including
3:38
having
3:38
to
3:38
die
3:39
and
3:39
basically
3:39
getting
3:40
a
3:40
prequel.
3:41
Now,
3:41
interestingly,
3:42
Red
3:43
Sonja
3:43
and
3:43
Black
3:44
Widow
3:44
share
3:45
more
3:45
than
3:45
just
3:46
a
3:46
color
3:46
in
3:46
the
3:46
title.
3:47
Red
3:47
Sonja
3:48
is
3:48
also
3:49
a
3:49
female
3:50
Marvel
3:50
Comics
3:50
character.
3:51
The
3:52
link
3:52
between
3:52
the
3:53
two
3:53
and
3:53
then
3:53
having
3:54
episodes
3:54
right
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next
3:55
to
3:55
each
3:55
other
3:56
is
3:56
actually
3:56
a
3:57
coincidence
3:57
because
3:58
I
3:58
didn't
3:58
realize
3:59
that
3:59
Sonja
4:00
was
4:00
a
4:00
Marvel
4:01
character.
4:02
To
4:02
be
4:02
honest,
4:02
I
4:02
just
4:03
wanted
4:03
to
4:03
do
4:03
a
4:03
month
4:03
of
4:04
female
4:04
fronted
4:05
movies
4:05
and
4:06
I
4:06
wanted
4:06
to
4:07
do
4:07
Black
4:07
Widow
4:07
and
4:07
then
4:08
I
4:08
wanted
4:08
to
4:08
do
4:08
Red
4:09
Sonja.
4:09
So
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that's
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the
4:10
only
4:10
reason
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they
4:11
are
4:11
together.
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But
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what
4:13
a
4:13
lovely
4:13
coincidence.
4:14
And
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while
4:15
Howard
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the
4:15
Duck
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is
4:16
often
4:16
credited
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for
4:17
being
4:17
the
4:17
first
4:18
live
4:18
action
4:18
Marvel
4:19
movie,
4:20
I
4:20
think
4:20
there's
4:21
a
4:21
good
4:21
argument
4:21
here
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for
4:22
it
4:22
actually
4:22
being
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Red
4:23
Sonja.
4:25
Here's
4:25
the
4:25
trailer
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for
4:26
Red
4:26
Sonja.
6:31
After
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being
6:31
attacked
6:32
and
6:32
left
6:32
the
6:32
dead,
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Sonja
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is
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gifted
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with
6:34
the
6:34
mastery
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of
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the
6:35
sword
6:35
and
6:36
seeks
6:36
revenge
6:37
on
6:37
the
6:37
evil
6:37
Queen
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Gedron.
6:39
Gedron
6:39
has
6:39
stolen
6:40
the
6:40
talisman,
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a
6:41
mysterious
6:41
relic
6:42
that
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can
6:42
only
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be
6:42
touched
6:43
by
6:43
women,
6:44
that
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has
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the
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power
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to
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destroy
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cities
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with
6:46
earthquakes
6:46
and
6:47
storms.
6:48
After
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a
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priestess
6:49
manages
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to
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survive
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the
6:50
ambush
6:50
by
6:51
Gedron
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and
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her
6:51
soldiers,
6:52
she's
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mortally
6:53
wounded
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and
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is
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discovered
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by
6:55
Lord
6:55
Caledor,
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who
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then
6:56
asks
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him
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to
6:57
find
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her
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sister
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Sonja,
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the
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only
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person
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with
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the
7:00
power
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to
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defeat
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Gedron
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and
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save
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this
7:03
world.
7:04
Let's
7:05
run
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through
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the
7:05
cast
7:06
of
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this
7:06
movie.
7:06
We
7:07
have
7:07
Arnold
7:07
Schwarzenegger
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as
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Lord
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Calidor,
7:10
Brigitte
7:10
Nielsen
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as
7:11
Red
7:12
Sonja,
7:12
Sandal
7:13
Bergman
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as
7:14
Queen
7:14
Gedron,
7:15
Paul
7:16
Smith
7:16
as
7:16
Falcon,
7:17
Ernie
7:18
Reyes
7:18
Jr.
7:19
As
7:19
Prince
7:20
Tahn,
7:20
Ronald
7:21
Lacey
7:22
as
7:22
Eichel,
7:23
Pat
7:23
Roach
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as
7:24
Britag,
7:25
and
7:25
Janet
7:26
Agron
7:26
as
7:26
Varna.
7:28
Red
7:28
Sonja
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was
7:29
written
7:29
by
7:29
Clive
7:30
exton
7:30
and
7:31
George
7:31
MacDonald
7:32
Fraser,
7:32
was
7:33
directed
7:33
by
7:33
Richard
7:34
Fleischer
7:35
and
7:35
was
7:35
based
7:35
on
7:36
Red
7:36
Sonja
7:36
of
7:37
Rugatino
7:38
by
7:38
Robert
7:38
E.
7:39
Howard.
7:40
But
7:40
are
7:40
we
7:41
talking
7:41
about
7:41
Red
7:41
Sonja
7:42
or
7:42
Red
7:43
Sonja?
7:44
And
7:44
what's
7:45
the
7:45
difference?
7:46
Well,
7:46
Red
7:47
Sonja
7:47
is
7:48
based
7:48
on
7:48
Red
7:49
Sonja,
7:49
which
7:49
was
7:50
in
7:50
turn
7:50
partially
7:51
based
7:51
on
7:51
Red
7:52
Sonja.
7:53
Two
7:53
of
7:54
those
7:54
Sonjas
7:55
have
7:55
a
7:55
J
7:55
in
7:55
the
7:56
name,
7:56
the
7:56
other
7:57
has
7:57
a
7:57
Y.
7:58
But
7:59
they're
7:59
all
7:59
sort
8:00
of
8:00
linked.
8:01
Robert
8:02
E.
8:02
Howard's
8:03
Red
8:03
Sonja
8:04
with
8:04
a
8:04
Y
8:05
appears
8:05
in
8:05
his
8:06
1934
8:06
short
8:07
story
8:07
the
8:07
Shadow
8:08
of
8:08
the
8:08
Vulture,
8:09
and
8:09
she's
8:09
quite
8:10
different.
8:10
From
8:10
the
8:10
fantasy
8:11
character
8:11
most
8:11
people
8:12
know
8:12
today.
8:13
The
8:13
story
8:13
is
8:14
set
8:14
in
8:14
1529
8:16
during
8:16
the
8:16
siege
8:16
of
8:17
Vienna,
8:17
when
8:17
the
8:18
Ottoman
8:18
Empire
8:19
under
8:19
Suleiman
8:20
the
8:20
Magnificent
8:21
was
8:21
advancing
8:21
into
8:22
Europe.
8:23
This
8:23
is
8:23
historical
8:24
fiction,
8:24
not
8:25
fantasy.
8:25
There's
8:26
no
8:26
magic,
8:27
monsters
8:27
or
8:28
mythical
8:28
kingdoms.
8:29
Red
8:29
Sonja
8:30
of
8:30
Rogotino
8:31
is
8:31
a
8:31
Polish
8:32
Russian
8:32
warrior
8:33
woman
8:33
fighting
8:34
against
8:34
the
8:34
Turkish
8:35
invasion.
8:35
She's
8:36
described
8:36
as
8:37
having
8:37
red
8:37
hair
8:37
and
8:38
is
8:38
skilled
8:38
with
8:39
sword.
8:39
She's
8:40
portrayed
8:40
as
8:40
fierce,
8:41
vengeful,
8:42
and
8:42
driven
8:42
by
8:42
hatred
8:43
for
8:43
the
8:43
Turks
8:44
who
8:44
destroyed
8:44
her
8:45
homeland.
8:46
In
8:46
the
8:46
Shadow
8:47
of
8:47
the
8:47
Vulture,
8:47
Sonja
8:48
is
8:48
allied
8:48
with
8:49
Gottfried
8:49
von
8:50
Kalmbach,
8:50
a
8:50
German
8:51
mercenary.
8:52
The
8:52
plot
8:52
involves
8:53
their
8:53
adventures
8:53
during
8:54
the
8:54
siege,
8:54
including
8:55
encounters
8:55
with
8:56
Mikhail
8:56
Oglu,
8:57
a
8:57
Turkish
8:57
commander.
8:58
The
8:58
story
8:59
has
8:59
Howard's
9:00
typical
9:00
themes
9:00
of
9:00
warfare,
9:01
revenge,
9:02
and
9:02
cultural
9:02
conflict.
9:04
Like
9:04
much
9:04
of
9:04
his
9:05
work,
9:05
it's
9:05
a
9:05
pulp
9:05
adventure
9:06
story
9:06
with
9:06
vivid
9:07
action
9:07
sequences
9:08
and
9:08
dramatic
9:09
characters.
9:10
Howard
9:10
was
9:10
known
9:11
for
9:11
his
9:11
historical
9:12
adventure
9:12
tales
9:12
as
9:13
much
9:13
as
9:13
his
9:13
fantasy
9:14
work,
9:15
such
9:15
as
9:15
Conan
9:16
and
9:16
Solomon
9:16
Kane.
9:18
Unlike
9:18
Conan,
9:19
Red
9:19
Sonja
9:20
only
9:20
appeared
9:20
in
9:20
this
9:21
one
9:21
published
9:21
story
9:22
during
9:22
Howard's
9:22
lifetime.
9:24
Although
9:24
he
9:24
may
9:25
have
9:25
written
9:25
other
9:25
unpublished
9:26
stories,
9:27
she
9:27
remained
9:28
a
9:28
relatively
9:28
minor
9:29
character
9:29
in
9:29
his
9:30
bibliography.
9:31
So
9:31
in
9:31
that
9:31
case,
9:32
how
9:32
can
9:33
she
9:33
have
9:33
a
9:33
movie
9:34
adaptation?
9:35
The
9:36
answer
9:36
is
9:36
Marvel
9:37
Comics.
9:38
Roy
9:38
Thomas
9:39
and
9:39
Barry
9:39
Windsor
9:40
Smith's
9:40
Red
9:41
Sonja
9:41
with
9:41
a
9:42
J
9:42
debuted
9:43
in
9:43
Marvel's
9:44
Conan
9:44
the
9:44
Barbarian
9:45
number
9:45
23
9:46
in
9:46
February
9:47
1973
9:48
and
9:48
was
9:48
a
9:48
significant
9:49
transformation
9:50
of
9:50
Howard's
9:51
original
9:51
Sonja
9:52
with
9:52
a
9:52
Y.
9:53
Roy
9:54
Thomas
9:54
was
9:54
the
9:54
writer
9:55
and
9:55
Barry
9:55
Windsor
9:56
Smith
9:56
the
9:56
artist.
9:57
Winsor
9:58
Smith
9:58
was
9:58
already
9:59
an
9:59
established
9:59
artist
10:00
on
10:00
the
10:00
Conan
10:01
comics,
10:01
and
10:01
Thomas
10:02
was
10:02
known
10:02
for
10:02
his
10:03
skill
10:03
at
10:03
adapting
10:04
and
10:04
expanding
10:04
pulp
10:05
characters
10:05
for
10:05
comics.
10:06
They
10:07
made
10:07
the
10:07
character
10:07
from
10:08
Howard's
10:08
historical
10:09
16th
10:09
century
10:10
setting
10:10
into
10:11
the
10:11
Hoborian
10:12
Age,
10:12
the
10:13
prehistoric
10:13
fantasy
10:14
world
10:14
of
10:14
Conan.
10:15
This
10:16
allowed
10:16
them
10:16
to
10:16
incorporate
10:17
magic,
10:17
monsters
10:18
and
10:18
sword
10:19
and
10:19
sorcery
10:20
elements
10:20
that
10:20
weren't
10:20
present
10:21
in
10:21
the
10:21
original
10:22
story.
10:23
The
10:23
most
10:23
notable
10:24
addition
10:24
to
10:25
Sonja's
10:25
story
10:26
was
10:26
her
10:26
vow
10:27
of
10:27
chastity,
10:28
the
10:28
idea
10:28
that
10:28
Sonja
10:29
had
10:29
sworn
10:30
never
10:30
to
10:30
lie
10:30
with
10:31
a
10:31
man
10:31
unless
10:31
he
10:32
defeated
10:32
her
10:32
in
10:32
fair
10:33
combat.
10:34
This
10:34
became
10:34
central
10:34
to
10:35
her
10:35
character
10:35
mythology,
10:36
and
10:36
it
10:37
wasn't
10:37
in
10:37
Howard's
10:38
original.
10:38
They
10:39
also
10:39
gave
10:39
her
10:40
the
10:40
iconic
10:40
chainmail
10:41
bikini
10:42
that
10:42
became
10:42
her
10:42
signature
10:43
look
10:43
and
10:43
influenced
10:44
all
10:44
subsequent
10:45
versions.
10:46
In
10:46
her
10:47
first
10:47
appearances
10:47
in
10:47
the
10:48
Conan
10:48
comics,
10:48
she
10:49
often
10:49
appeared
10:49
as
10:49
an
10:50
ally,
10:50
rival,
10:51
or
10:51
romantic
10:52
interest
10:52
for
10:52
Conan.
10:53
The
10:53
stories
10:54
typically
10:54
involved
10:54
her
10:55
on
10:55
various
10:55
quests
10:56
or
10:56
adventures
10:56
in
10:56
the
10:56
Hyborian
10:57
world,
10:58
fighting
10:58
sorcerers,
10:59
monsters,
11:00
and
11:00
tyrannical
11:00
rulers.
11:01
She
11:02
appeared
11:02
in
11:02
various
11:02
Marvel
11:03
Comics
11:03
series
11:04
throughout
11:04
the
11:04
70s,
11:05
but
11:05
most
11:05
notably
11:06
in
11:06
the
11:06
Savage
11:07
Sword
11:07
of
11:07
Conan
11:08
number
11:08
78
11:09
in
11:09
July
11:09
1982
11:11
where
11:11
a
11:11
21
11:12
year
11:12
old
11:12
Sonja
11:13
witnesses
11:13
her
11:14
family
11:14
murdered,
11:15
their
11:15
house
11:15
burned
11:16
to
11:16
the
11:16
ground
11:16
by
11:16
a
11:16
group
11:17
of
11:17
mercenaries,
11:18
and
11:18
she
11:18
is
11:19
sexually
11:19
assaulted
11:19
and
11:20
left
11:20
for
11:20
dead.
11:21
She
11:21
swears
11:22
revenge
11:22
and
11:22
the
11:22
red
11:23
goddess
11:23
Skathak
11:24
appears
11:24
to
11:24
her
11:25
and
11:25
gives
11:25
her
11:25
incredible
11:26
fighting
11:27
skills
11:27
on
11:27
the
11:28
condition
11:28
she
11:28
never
11:29
lie
11:29
with
11:29
a
11:29
man
11:29
unless
11:30
he
11:30
defeats
11:30
her
11:31
in
11:31
fair
11:31
combat.
11:32
Sonja
11:33
has
11:33
more
11:33
links
11:34
to
11:34
Marvel
11:34
too,
11:34
specifically
11:35
Mary
11:35
Jane
11:36
Watson.
11:37
Mary
11:37
Jane
11:37
was
11:37
originally
11:38
created
11:38
by
11:38
Stan
11:39
Lee
11:39
and
11:39
Steve
11:39
Ditko
11:40
in
11:40
1965
11:41
and
11:42
she
11:42
was
11:42
kept
11:42
as
11:42
a
11:42
mystery
11:43
character.
11:43
Readers
11:44
only
11:44
saw
11:44
her
11:45
from
11:45
behind
11:45
or
11:46
partially
11:46
obscured
11:47
by
11:47
objects
11:47
like
11:48
plants.
11:48
It
11:49
wasn't
11:49
until
11:49
the
11:49
Amazing
11:50
Spider
11:50
Man
11:51
Number
11:51
42
11:51
in
11:52
November
11:52
1965
11:53
that
11:54
we
11:54
finally
11:54
saw
11:55
MJ
11:55
designed
11:56
and
11:56
drawn
11:56
by
11:57
John
11:57
Romita
11:57
Sr.
11:58
With
11:58
her
11:58
vibrant
11:59
red
11:59
hair
11:59
and
12:00
the
12:00
iconic
12:01
Face
12:01
It
12:01
Tiger,
12:01
you
12:02
just
12:02
hit
12:02
the
12:02
jackpot
12:03
line.
12:04
Why
12:04
am
12:04
I
12:04
mentioning
12:05
Mary
12:05
Jane
12:05
Watson?
12:06
Well,
12:07
in
12:07
Marvel
12:07
team
12:08
up
12:08
number
12:08
79
12:09
in
12:09
March
12:10
1979,
12:11
Mary
12:11
Jane
12:12
Watson
12:12
becomes
12:13
Red
12:13
Sonja.
12:14
The
12:14
issue,
12:15
written
12:15
by
12:15
Chris
12:16
Claremont
12:16
with
12:17
art
12:17
by
12:17
John
12:17
Byrne
12:18
has
12:18
Mary
12:19
Jane
12:19
transforming
12:20
to
12:20
Red
12:20
Sonja,
12:21
taking
12:21
on
12:21
her
12:22
appearance
12:22
skills
12:23
and
12:23
warrior
12:23
abilities,
12:24
complete
12:25
with
12:25
chainmail
12:26
bikini.
12:27
MJ
12:28
is
12:28
said
12:28
to
12:28
be
12:29
a
12:29
descendant
12:29
or
12:30
reincarnation
12:31
of
12:31
Red
12:31
Sonja.
12:32
In
12:32
2007,
12:33
MJ
12:34
would
12:34
once
12:34
again
12:34
become
12:35
Red
12:35
Sonja
12:36
in
12:36
the
12:36
2007
12:37
Marvel
12:37
and
12:38
Dynamite
12:38
comic
12:39
5
12:39
issue
12:39
series
12:41
Red
12:41
Sonja
12:42
written
12:42
by
12:43
Michael
12:43
Avon
12:44
oming,
12:45
but
12:45
this
12:46
movie
12:46
clearly
12:47
states
12:47
it's
12:48
based
12:48
on
12:48
Robert
12:49
E.
12:49
Howard's
12:49
version
12:50
of
12:50
Red
12:50
Sonja
12:51
with
12:51
a
12:51
Y
12:52
and
12:52
not
12:53
the
12:53
Marvel
12:53
Comics
12:54
version,
12:54
despite
12:55
it
12:55
actually
12:55
being
12:56
based
12:56
on
12:56
the
12:56
plot
12:57
and
12:57
characterization
12:58
of
12:59
Red
12:59
Sonja
12:59
with
13:00
a
13:00
J
13:00
and
13:01
being
13:01
called
13:01
Red
13:02
Sonja
13:02
with
13:02
a
13:03
J.
13:03
And
13:04
the
13:04
easiest
13:04
explanation
13:05
for
13:05
this
13:05
is
13:06
Royce.
13:07
It's
13:07
not
13:07
an
13:07
adaptation
13:08
of
13:08
Robert
13:09
E.
13:09
Howard's
13:09
historical
13:10
fiction
13:10
version
13:11
of
13:11
Red
13:11
Sonja
13:12
of
13:12
Rigatino,
13:13
but
13:13
the
13:13
movie
13:14
credits
13:14
Robert
13:14
E.
13:15
Howard
13:15
because
13:16
legally
13:16
and
13:16
creatively,
13:17
his
13:18
original
13:18
Red
13:18
Sonja
13:19
character
13:19
was
13:20
the
13:20
foundational
13:21
source.
13:21
Even
13:22
though
13:22
the
13:22
film
13:23
is
13:23
actually
13:23
adapting
13:24
the
13:24
Marvel
13:24
Comics
13:25
version,
13:26
Marvel's
13:26
Red
13:27
Sonja
13:27
was
13:27
directly
13:28
inspired
13:28
by
13:28
Howard's
13:29
Red
13:29
Sonja.
13:30
So
13:30
when
13:30
adapting
13:31
the
13:31
Marvel
13:31
character
13:32
for
13:32
film,
13:32
the
13:33
producers
13:33
still
13:33
needed
13:34
to
13:34
acknowledge
13:35
Howard
13:35
as
13:35
the
13:35
original
13:36
creator.
13:37
Even
13:37
though
13:37
Marvel
13:38
had
13:38
developed
13:38
their
13:39
own
13:39
distinct
13:39
version
13:40
with
13:40
different
13:40
stories,
13:41
setting
13:41
and
13:42
characteristics.
13:43
The
13:43
core
13:43
character
13:44
concept
13:44
is
13:45
traced
13:45
back
13:46
to
13:46
Howard's
13:47
1934
13:48
creation.
13:49
So
13:49
the
13:49
movie
13:49
is
13:49
simultaneously
13:50
based
13:51
on
13:51
Howard's
13:51
character,
13:52
but
13:52
is
13:53
actually
13:53
adapting
13:53
Marvel's
13:54
version
13:55
and
13:55
set
13:55
in
13:55
a
13:56
fantasy
13:56
world
13:56
like
13:57
Marvel's
13:57
version,
13:58
not
13:58
Howard's
13:59
historical
13:59
setting,
14:00
while
14:00
also
14:01
using
14:01
the
14:01
Sonja
14:02
with
14:02
A
14:02
J
14:02
Spelling
14:03
from
14:03
Marvel,
14:04
not
14:04
Howard's
14:05
Sonja
14:05
with
14:05
a
14:06
Y.
14:06
It's
14:07
kind
14:07
of
14:07
similar
14:07
to
14:07
how
14:08
superhero
14:08
movies
14:09
credit
14:09
the
14:09
original
14:10
comic
14:10
creators
14:11
like
14:11
Stan
14:12
Lee,
14:12
Jack
14:12
Kirby
14:13
and
14:13
Steve
14:13
Ditko,
14:14
even
14:14
when
14:14
they're
14:15
adapting
14:15
more
14:15
recent
14:16
storylines
14:17
or
14:17
interpretations
14:18
from
14:18
writers
14:18
like
14:19
Chris
14:19
Claremont,
14:20
Ed
14:20
Brubaker
14:21
or
14:21
Brian
14:21
Michael
14:21
Bendis.
14:22
But
14:22
it
14:23
also
14:23
feels
14:23
somewhat
14:24
wrong
14:24
in
14:24
this
14:24
capacity.
14:25
But
14:25
who
14:26
am
14:26
I
14:26
to
14:26
judge?
14:27
So
14:28
with
14:28
it
14:28
being
14:28
officially
14:29
an
14:29
adaptation
14:30
of
14:30
the
14:30
Robert
14:30
E.
14:30
Howard
14:31
character
14:31
Red
14:32
Sonja
14:32
of
14:32
Rugatino,
14:33
it
14:33
was
14:33
announced
14:34
by
14:34
daily
14:34
variety
14:35
in
14:35
1983
14:36
to
14:36
be
14:37
being
14:37
made
14:37
into
14:37
a
14:38
film
14:38
adaptation
14:39
produced
14:39
by
14:40
Dino
14:40
De
14:40
Laurentiis,
14:41
with
14:42
Ralph
14:42
Bakshi
14:43
directing.
14:44
Interestingly,
14:45
at
14:45
an
14:45
open
14:45
casting
14:46
call
14:46
for
14:46
the
14:46
movie,
14:47
it
14:47
was
14:47
spelled
14:48
Red
14:48
Sonja
14:49
S
14:50
o
14:50
n
14:50
I
14:51
A.
14:52
The
14:52
movie
14:52
was
14:53
scheduled
14:53
to
14:53
begin
14:53
filming
14:54
in
14:54
summer
14:54
1983.
14:55
However,
14:56
by
14:56
April
14:57
1984
14:58
the
14:58
movie
14:58
was
14:58
being
14:59
called
14:59
Red
15:00
Sonja
15:01
S
15:01
o
15:01
n
15:02
Y
15:02
A
15:03
and
15:03
it
15:03
was
15:03
reported
15:04
principal
15:04
photography
15:05
would
15:05
begin
15:05
in
15:06
September
15:06
1984
15:07
at
15:08
Sinosita
15:09
Studios
15:09
in
15:09
Italy.
15:10
And
15:10
in
15:10
July
15:11
1984,
15:12
Richard
15:12
Fleisher
15:13
was
15:13
announced
15:13
as
15:13
replacing
15:14
Ralph
15:14
Bakshi
15:15
as
15:15
director.
15:17
Also
15:17
in
15:17
July
15:18
1984,
15:19
Sandel
15:19
Bergman
15:20
was
15:20
announced
15:20
as
15:21
being
15:21
offered
15:21
the
15:21
lead
15:22
role
15:22
of
15:22
Red
15:23
Sonja,
15:23
now
15:24
spelled
15:24
S
15:25
o
15:25
n
15:25
J
15:25
A.
15:26
Bergman
15:27
had
15:27
starred
15:27
in
15:28
Conan
15:28
the
15:28
Barbarian
15:29
ers
15:29
Conan's
15:30
love
15:30
interest
15:30
Valeria,
15:31
but
15:31
she
15:32
would
15:32
end
15:32
up
15:32
refusing
15:33
the
15:33
role
15:33
of
15:33
Sonja
15:34
and
15:34
instead
15:34
would
15:35
be
15:35
cast
15:35
as
15:35
Queen
15:36
Gedron.
15:37
The
15:38
young
15:38
and
15:38
the
15:38
restless
15:38
actor
15:39
Eileen
15:39
Davidson
15:40
auditioned
15:40
for
15:41
the
15:41
role
15:41
of
15:41
Sonja
15:42
and
15:42
the
15:42
film
15:42
was
15:42
scheduled
15:43
to
15:43
film
15:43
in
15:43
Italy
15:44
for
15:44
16
15:45
weeks.
15:46
But
15:46
Eileen
15:47
Davidson
15:47
wasn't
15:48
successful
15:48
at
15:48
getting
15:49
the
15:49
part
15:50
and
15:50
the
15:50
production
15:50
still
15:51
didn't
15:51
have
15:51
its
15:52
Sonja.
15:53
Producer
15:53
Dino
15:54
De
15:54
Laurentiis
15:54
would
15:54
spend
15:55
a
15:55
year
15:55
in
15:55
total
15:56
looking
15:56
for
15:57
someone
15:57
statuesque
15:58
and
15:58
Amazonian,
15:59
and
15:59
he
15:59
was
16:00
still
16:00
looking
16:00
for
16:01
a
16:01
Sonja.
16:02
Eight
16:02
weeks
16:02
before
16:02
shooting
16:03
was
16:03
scheduled
16:04
to
16:04
start,
16:05
he
16:05
saw
16:05
model
16:06
Brigitte
16:06
Nielsen
16:07
on
16:07
the
16:07
COVID
16:07
of
16:07
a
16:08
fashion
16:08
magazine
16:09
and
16:09
immediately
16:10
set
16:10
about
16:10
trying
16:10
to
16:11
find
16:11
her.
16:11
Nielsen
16:12
was
16:12
in
16:12
Milan
16:13
for
16:13
a
16:13
modeling
16:14
job
16:14
and
16:14
De
16:14
Laurentiis
16:15
flew
16:15
her
16:16
to
16:16
Rome
16:16
for
16:16
a
16:16
screen
16:17
test,
16:17
which
16:18
she
16:18
passed
16:19
and
16:19
the
16:19
production
16:20
had
16:20
its
16:20
red
16:21
headed
16:21
heroine.
16:22
But
16:23
then
16:23
there's
16:23
another
16:24
question
16:24
about
16:24
this
16:24
movie.
16:25
What
16:25
is
16:26
Conan
16:26
in
16:26
this
16:26
movie
16:27
and
16:27
why
16:28
isn't
16:28
he
16:28
called
16:28
Conan?
16:30
Well,
16:30
Arnold
16:31
Schwarzenegger
16:31
broke
16:32
through
16:32
into
16:32
Hollywood
16:33
with
16:33
his
16:33
role
16:34
in
16:34
the
16:34
1982
16:35
Sword
16:35
and
16:35
sorcery
16:36
film
16:36
Conan
16:37
the
16:37
Barbarian,
16:37
which
16:38
was
16:38
a
16:38
box
16:38
office
16:39
hit
16:39
and
16:39
immediately
16:40
a
16:40
sequel
16:41
was
16:41
commissioned,
16:41
Conan
16:42
the
16:42
destroyer.
16:43
In
16:43
1984,
16:44
Conan
16:45
was
16:45
also
16:46
a
16:46
Robert
16:46
E.
16:46
Howard
16:47
character.
16:48
The
16:48
planned
16:49
third
16:49
Conan
16:49
film,
16:50
Conan
16:50
the
16:50
Conqueror,
16:51
fell
16:52
into
16:52
Development
16:52
hell
16:53
in
16:53
the
16:53
late
16:53
80s.
16:54
It
16:54
would
16:54
eventually
16:54
form
16:55
the
16:55
basis
16:55
of
16:55
the
16:56
1997
16:57
fantasy
16:57
film
16:58
Cull
16:58
the
16:58
Conqueror.
16:59
Meanwhile,
17:00
Schwarzenegger
17:01
was
17:01
becoming
17:01
a
17:01
household
17:02
name
17:02
thanks
17:03
to
17:03
James
17:03
Cameron's
17:04
1984
17:05
sci
17:05
fi
17:05
horror
17:06
slasher
17:06
the
17:06
Terminator.
17:08
Arnold
17:08
Schwarzenegger
17:09
initially
17:09
agreed
17:10
to
17:10
appear
17:10
in
17:10
Red
17:11
Sonja
17:11
as
17:12
a
17:12
favor
17:12
to
17:12
Dino
17:13
De
17:13
Laurentiis,
17:14
who
17:14
had
17:14
basically
17:15
given
17:15
him
17:15
his
17:15
big
17:16
break
17:16
in
17:16
Conan
17:17
and
17:17
with
17:17
whom
17:18
he'd
17:18
signed
17:18
a
17:18
multi
17:19
picture
17:19
deal.
17:20
But
17:20
the
17:20
situation
17:21
became
17:21
much
17:22
more
17:22
complicated
17:23
than
17:23
originally
17:24
planned.
17:25
Allegedly,
17:25
Dino
17:26
De
17:26
Laurentiis
17:26
didn't
17:27
have
17:27
the
17:27
budget
17:28
to
17:28
pay
17:28
Schwarzenegger
17:29
for
17:29
a
17:29
full
17:30
shooting
17:30
schedule.
17:31
So
17:31
he
17:31
came
17:31
up
17:32
with
17:32
a
17:32
workaround.
17:33
He'd
17:34
make
17:34
a
17:34
pseudo
17:35
Conan
17:35
spin
17:36
off
17:36
movie
17:36
Red
17:36
Sonja
17:37
to
17:38
fulfil
17:38
contractual
17:39
obligations
17:39
without
17:40
the
17:40
full
17:40
expense.
17:41
And
17:41
he'd
17:41
get
17:41
Schwarzenegger
17:42
to
17:43
cameo
17:43
in
17:43
the
17:44
movie.
17:44
It
17:45
makes
17:45
sense
17:45
because
17:45
the
17:46
audience
17:46
loved
17:46
him
17:47
in
17:47
Conan,
17:47
so
17:48
why
17:48
not
17:48
have
17:49
him
17:49
show
17:49
up
17:49
here
17:49
too?
17:50
Except
17:51
they
17:51
couldn't
17:51
use
17:51
the
17:52
name
17:52
Conan
17:53
because
17:53
they
17:53
didn't
17:53
have
17:53
the
17:54
rights
17:54
to
17:54
the
17:54
name.
17:55
So
17:55
they
17:55
renamed
17:56
the
17:56
character
17:57
Lord
17:57
Caledor.
17:58
An
17:58
unofficial
17:59
explanation
18:00
endorsed
18:00
by
18:00
fans
18:01
is
18:01
that
18:02
Calidor
18:02
is
18:02
one
18:03
of
18:03
Conan's
18:03
traveling
18:04
names,
18:04
like
18:05
when
18:05
Gandalf
18:06
is
18:06
known
18:06
as
18:06
Mithrandir
18:07
during
18:07
his
18:07
various
18:08
travels
18:08
through
18:08
Middle
18:09
Earth.
18:09
The
18:10
problem
18:10
was,
18:10
while
18:11
Schwarzenegger
18:11
agreed
18:12
to
18:12
a
18:12
cameo
18:13
quietly,
18:14
the
18:14
role
18:14
was
18:14
being
18:15
beefed
18:15
up.
18:15
And
18:15
when
18:16
he
18:16
arrived
18:16
on
18:16
set,
18:17
he
18:17
ended
18:17
up
18:18
filming
18:18
for
18:18
four
18:19
weeks.
18:19
After
18:20
watching
18:20
a
18:20
rough
18:20
cut
18:21
of
18:21
the
18:21
movie,
18:21
he
18:22
realized
18:22
that
18:22
his
18:23
role
18:23
had
18:23
been
18:23
expanded
18:24
to
18:25
full
18:25
blown
18:25
co
18:25
star
18:26
thanks
18:26
to
18:27
crafty
18:27
angles
18:28
and
18:28
multiple
18:28
cameras.
18:29
Schwarzenegger
18:30
also
18:31
performed
18:31
all
18:31
of
18:31
his
18:32
own
18:32
stunts.
18:33
Considering
18:33
his
18:34
status
18:34
at
18:34
the
18:34
time
18:35
as
18:35
an
18:35
up
18:35
and
18:35
coming
18:36
leading
18:36
man
18:36
with
18:37
also
18:37
commitments
18:38
to
18:38
other
18:38
movies
18:38
like
18:39
Commando.
18:39
Schwarzenegger
18:40
didn't
18:41
really
18:41
have
18:41
the
18:41
time
18:42
to
18:42
be
18:42
deceived
18:42
by
18:43
Dino
18:43
De
18:43
Laurentiis.
18:45
Not
18:45
that
18:45
he
18:45
had
18:45
a
18:46
bad
18:46
experience
18:46
filming.
18:47
Schwarzenegger
18:48
and
18:48
Nielsen
18:49
actually
18:49
started
18:49
an
18:50
affair
18:50
during
18:50
filming,
18:51
something
18:51
which
18:52
both
18:52
have
18:52
since
18:53
confirmed.
18:53
And
18:54
at
18:54
the
18:54
time,
18:54
Schwarzenegger
18:55
was
18:55
in
18:55
a
18:56
relationship
18:56
with
18:56
his
18:57
future
18:57
ex
18:57
wife,
18:58
Maria
18:58
Shriver.
19:00
The
19:00
costume
19:00
designer
19:01
on
19:01
Red
19:01
Sonja
19:02
is
19:02
Danilo
19:02
Donati.
19:03
He's
19:04
also
19:04
the
19:04
production
19:05
designer
19:05
too.
19:06
A
19:06
lot
19:06
of
19:06
people
19:06
did
19:07
double
19:07
or
19:08
triple
19:08
shifts
19:08
on
19:09
this
19:09
movie.
19:10
He
19:10
was
19:10
last
19:10
mentioned
19:11
in
19:11
the
19:11
episode
19:11
on
19:11
Flash
19:12
Gordon,
19:12
which
19:12
had
19:13
sumptuous
19:13
costuming.
19:14
That's
19:15
episode
19:15
296
19:16
of
19:16
this
19:16
podcast.
19:17
Gone
19:17
is
19:17
the
19:18
chainmail
19:18
bikini
19:19
from
19:19
the
19:19
comic
19:19
book.
19:20
Also
19:21
on
19:21
the
19:21
crew,
19:21
the
19:21
legendary
19:22
Ennio
19:22
Morricone
19:23
composing
19:24
the
19:24
score.
19:25
The
19:25
special
19:25
effects
19:26
have
19:26
actually
19:26
aged
19:26
quite
19:27
well
19:27
with
19:27
some
19:27
beautiful
19:28
matte
19:28
paintings
19:29
and
19:29
the
19:29
dragon
19:30
bridge,
19:30
all
19:30
playing
19:31
a
19:31
part
19:31
to
19:31
build
19:32
the
19:32
world
19:32
of
19:32
Hyboria.
19:33
There's
19:34
even
19:34
a
19:34
charm
19:34
to
19:34
the
19:35
mechanical
19:35
water
19:35
snake
19:36
monster,
19:36
which
19:37
is
19:37
credited
19:37
as
19:38
Killing
19:38
Machine.
19:39
The
19:39
fish
19:40
machine
19:40
and
19:40
spider
19:41
designers
19:41
and
19:41
builders
19:42
were
19:42
Colin
19:42
Arthur
19:43
and
19:43
Giuseppe
19:43
Tutora.
19:45
Many
19:45
of
19:45
the
19:45
crew
19:45
had
19:46
also
19:46
worked
19:46
on
19:46
the
19:46
Conan
19:47
movies,
19:47
including
19:48
the
19:48
director.
19:49
Also
19:49
working
19:50
on
19:50
this
19:50
movie
19:50
was
19:51
Ernie
19:51
Reyes
19:52
Sr.
19:52
As
19:52
the
19:52
martial
19:53
arts
19:53
consultant
19:54
who
19:54
also
19:54
worked
19:55
on
19:55
the
19:55
Last
19:55
Dragon,
19:56
and
19:56
also
19:57
with
19:57
his
19:57
young
19:57
son
19:58
Ernie
19:58
Reyes
19:59
Jr.
19:59
Who
19:59
stars
20:00
here
20:00
as
20:00
Prince
20:01
Tahn.
20:02
Soon
20:03
after
20:03
finishing
20:03
Red
20:03
Sonja,
20:04
Schwarzenegger
20:05
felt
20:05
his
20:05
relationship
20:06
with
20:06
Dino
20:06
De
20:06
Laurentiis
20:07
was
20:07
soured
20:08
by
20:08
his
20:08
deception
20:09
and
20:09
decided
20:10
to
20:10
terminate,
20:11
no
20:11
pun
20:11
intended,
20:12
his
20:12
10
20:13
year
20:13
contract
20:13
after
20:14
the
20:14
1986
20:15
movie
20:15
Raw
20:15
Deal.
20:16
Schwarzenegger's
20:17
success
20:17
would
20:18
be
20:18
cemented
20:18
the
20:18
following
20:19
year
20:19
by
20:19
Predator,
20:20
which
20:20
is
20:20
episode
20:21
267
20:22
of
20:22
this
20:22
podcast.
20:23
Red
20:23
Sonja
20:24
was
20:24
filmed
20:24
on
20:25
location
20:25
across
20:25
Italy
20:26
in
20:26
Celano
20:27
in
20:28
Rome
20:28
at
20:28
the
20:28
stabilimenti
20:29
cinematography
20:30
C.I.
20:31
pontini
20:31
and
20:32
the
20:32
Aboruzzi
20:33
Mountains.
20:33
Production
20:34
wrapped
20:34
a
20:35
day
20:35
and
20:35
a
20:35
half
20:35
later
20:36
on
20:36
21st
20:37
December
20:37
1984,
20:38
59
20:39
days
20:39
after
20:40
it
20:40
commenced
20:40
rather
20:41
than
20:41
58
20:42
days.
20:42
The
20:43
delay
20:43
was
20:43
blamed
20:43
on
20:44
torrential
20:44
rains
20:44
in
20:45
the
20:45
Abritsi
20:45
Mountains
20:46
during
20:46
October
20:47
1984.
20:48
Post
20:49
production
20:49
moved
20:50
from
20:50
Italy
20:50
to
20:50
MGM
20:51
studios
20:51
in
20:52
Culver
20:52
City,
20:52
California,
20:53
where
20:53
Dino
20:54
De
20:54
Laurentiis
20:55
oversaw
20:55
the
20:55
progress
20:56
on
20:56
this
20:56
movie.
20:57
Personally,
20:58
this
20:58
is
20:58
perfect
20:59
opportunity
20:59
to
21:00
segue
21:00
into
21:01
the
21:01
obligatory
21:02
Keanu
21:02
reference
21:03
of
21:03
this
21:03
episode.
21:04
And
21:04
if
21:04
you
21:04
don't
21:04
know
21:04
what
21:04
that
21:04
is,
21:05
it's
21:05
where
21:05
I
21:05
try
21:05
and
21:05
link
21:06
every
21:06
movie
21:06
that
21:06
I
21:06
feature
21:07
to
21:07
with
21:07
Keanu
21:08
Reeves
21:08
for
21:09
no
21:09
reason
21:09
other
21:10
than
21:10
he
21:10
is
21:11
the
21:11
best
21:11
of
21:11
men.
21:12
And
21:12
I
21:12
did
21:12
actually
21:13
have
21:13
a
21:13
different
21:13
obligatory
21:14
Keanu
21:15
reference.
21:15
And
21:16
what
21:16
that
21:16
was
21:16
was
21:16
I
21:17
wanted
21:17
to
21:17
link
21:17
this
21:17
movie
21:18
somehow
21:18
to
21:19
47
21:19
Ronin,
21:20
which
21:20
is
21:20
obviously
21:21
Keanu
21:22
using
21:22
swords.
21:23
And
21:23
then
21:24
something
21:24
else
21:24
came
21:24
to
21:25
me
21:25
and
21:25
I
21:25
thought
21:26
this
21:26
one
21:26
way
21:27
better.
21:27
And
21:28
it's
21:28
via
21:28
Tad
21:29
Horino
21:30
who
21:30
played
21:30
the
21:30
sword
21:31
master
21:31
in
21:31
this
21:32
movie.
21:32
Now
21:33
he's
21:33
no
21:33
stranger
21:33
to
21:34
Hollywood
21:34
movies,
21:35
but
21:35
his
21:35
best
21:35
role
21:36
was
21:36
undoubtedly
21:37
that
21:38
of
21:38
Confucius
21:39
in
21:40
Bill
21:40
and
21:40
Ted's
21:40
bogus
21:41
journey
21:41
with
21:42
Alex
21:42
Winter
21:43
and
21:43
of
21:43
course
21:44
Keanu
21:45
Reeves.
21:45
And
21:46
that
21:46
is
21:46
the
21:46
easiest
21:46
way
21:47
to
21:47
link
21:47
Keanu
21:47
Reeves
21:48
to
21:48
Red
21:48
Sonja.
21:50
Red
21:50
Sonja
21:51
was
21:51
released
21:51
on
21:51
5th
21:52
July
21:53
1985,
21:54
the
21:54
same
21:54
week
21:55
as
21:55
Back
21:55
to
21:56
the
21:56
Future,
21:56
which
21:57
clearly
21:57
didn't
21:58
help
21:58
it
21:58
gain
21:59
any
21:59
type
22:00
of
22:00
stronghold
22:00
with
22:00
viewers.
22:01
Also
22:02
out
22:02
at
22:02
around
22:02
the
22:03
same
22:03
time,
22:03
Rambo
22:04
First
22:04
Blood,
22:04
Part
22:05
2,
22:05
Cocoon
22:06
sent
22:06
Elmo's
22:07
Fire
22:07
and
22:07
the
22:07
Goonies,
22:08
all
22:09
of
22:09
which
22:09
did
22:09
better
22:10
than
22:10
Red
22:10
Sonja
22:11
on
22:11
its
22:11
debut,
22:12
Red
22:12
Sonja
22:13
could
22:13
only
22:13
manage
22:13
debuting
22:14
9th
22:15
at
22:15
the
22:15
US
22:15
box
22:16
office
22:16
and
22:16
it
22:17
dropped
22:17
to
22:17
13th
22:18
in
22:18
its
22:18
second
22:19
week.
22:19
It
22:20
would
22:20
end
22:20
up
22:20
grossing
22:21
$6.9
22:21
million
22:22
at
22:22
the
22:22
domestic
22:23
box
22:23
office
22:24
on
22:24
its
22:24
$17.9
22:26
million
22:26
budget.
22:28
No
22:28
international
22:28
financial
22:29
information
22:29
is
22:30
available.
22:30
However,
22:31
I
22:31
distinctly
22:32
remember
22:32
watching
22:33
this
22:33
several
22:33
times
22:34
as
22:34
a
22:34
kid,
22:34
so
22:35
it
22:35
must
22:35
have
22:35
had
22:35
a
22:36
UK
22:36
VHS
22:37
release.
22:38
IPPO
22:38
Box
22:38
Office
22:39
was
22:39
blamed
22:39
on
22:40
the
22:40
over
22:40
saturation
22:41
of
22:41
sword
22:41
and
22:41
sorcery
22:42
movies,
22:42
the
22:43
rushed
22:43
production,
22:44
the
22:44
female
22:44
lead
22:45
and
22:45
villain,
22:45
and
22:46
its
22:46
spurious
22:46
links
22:47
to
22:47
Conan
22:47
without
22:48
actually
22:48
starring
22:49
Conan,
22:49
which
22:50
to
22:50
be
22:51
honest,
22:51
probably
22:51
just
22:52
ended
22:52
up
22:52
confusing
22:52
people.
22:54
Unsurprisingly,
22:54
critics
22:55
also
22:55
gave
22:56
this
22:56
movie
22:56
a
22:56
hard
22:57
time.
22:57
It
22:57
has
22:58
a
22:58
21%
22:58
on
22:59
rotten
22:59
tomatoes,
23:00
citing
23:01
dull,
23:01
poorly
23:02
directed
23:02
and
23:02
badly
23:03
miscast.
23:03
Red
23:04
Sonja
23:04
is
23:04
an
23:05
uninspired
23:05
conclusion
23:06
to
23:06
Schwarzenegger's
23:07
barbarian
23:08
trilogy,
23:09
which
23:10
also
23:10
it
23:11
kind
23:11
of
23:11
isn't.
23:11
But
23:12
again,
23:12
I
23:12
think
23:12
that's
23:12
the
23:13
problem
23:13
with
23:13
this
23:13
movie.
23:14
Even
23:15
Schwarzenegger
23:16
jokes
23:16
that
23:16
it's
23:16
the
23:17
worst
23:17
film
23:17
he's
23:18
ever
23:18
made,
23:18
saying
23:19
quote,
23:20
now
23:20
I
23:20
tell
23:20
my
23:21
kids
23:21
that
23:21
if
23:21
they
23:21
get
23:22
out
23:22
of
23:22
line,
23:23
they'll
23:23
be
23:23
forced
23:23
to
23:24
watch
23:24
Red
23:24
Sonja
23:25
10
23:25
times
23:25
in
23:25
a
23:25
row.
23:26
It
23:26
must
23:27
be
23:27
working
23:27
because
23:28
I've
23:28
never
23:28
had
23:28
much
23:29
trouble
23:29
with
23:29
any
23:29
of
23:30
them.
23:31
Red
23:32
Sonja,
23:32
though,
23:32
was
23:33
nominated
23:33
for
23:34
three
23:34
awards.
23:35
They
23:35
were
23:35
just
23:36
Golden
23:36
Raspberry
23:37
Awards
23:37
Worst
23:38
Actress
23:38
and
23:39
Worst
23:39
New
23:39
Star
23:40
for
23:40
Brigitte
23:40
Nielsen
23:41
and
23:41
Worst
23:42
Supporting
23:42
Actress
23:43
for
23:43
Sandal
23:43
Bergmann.
23:44
Nielsen
23:45
won
23:45
in
23:45
the
23:46
Worst
23:46
New
23:46
Star
23:46
category
23:47
and
23:47
that
23:47
was
23:47
shared
23:48
for
23:48
her
23:49
performance
23:49
in
23:49
Rocky
23:50
iv.
23:52
Now,
23:52
despite
23:52
Red
23:53
Sonja's
23:53
critical
23:54
and
23:54
commercial
23:54
bashing,
23:55
it's
23:55
become
23:55
somewhat
23:56
of
23:56
a
23:56
cult
23:56
classic
23:57
over
23:57
the
23:57
years,
23:58
and
23:58
a
23:58
remake
23:59
has
23:59
been
23:59
on
23:59
the
23:59
cards
24:00
for
24:00
a
24:00
surprisingly
24:01
long
24:01
time.
24:02
It
24:02
started
24:03
with
24:03
Robert
24:03
Rodriguez
24:04
in
24:04
2008
24:06
wanting
24:06
to
24:06
do
24:06
a
24:06
remake
24:07
starring
24:07
Rose
24:08
McGowan
24:08
as
24:08
the
24:09
title
24:09
character.
24:10
By
24:10
2010,
24:11
Con
24:11
Air
24:11
and
24:12
Lara
24:12
Croft
24:12
Tomb
24:13
Raider
24:13
director
24:13
Simon
24:14
west
24:15
was
24:15
slated
24:15
to
24:15
direct
24:16
a
24:16
remake
24:16
starring
24:17
amber
24:17
heard.
24:18
In
24:18
2011,
24:19
Conan
24:20
the
24:20
Barbarian
24:21
was
24:21
rebooted
24:21
with
24:21
Jason
24:22
Momoa
24:22
in
24:23
the
24:23
lead,
24:23
and
24:23
so
24:23
it
24:24
made
24:24
sense
24:24
to
24:24
also
24:25
reboot
24:25
Red
24:26
Sonja,
24:26
but
24:27
the
24:27
project
24:27
halted,
24:28
got
24:28
stuck
24:28
in
24:28
development
24:28
hell
24:29
for
24:29
several
24:29
years
24:30
until
24:30
2017
24:31
when
24:31
a
24:32
new
24:32
version
24:32
was
24:33
reported
24:33
to
24:33
be
24:33
in
24:33
the
24:33
early
24:34
stages
24:35
by
24:35
new
24:35
rights
24:36
holders
24:36
Millennium
24:37
Films,
24:37
this
24:38
time
24:38
with
24:38
Bryan
24:39
Singer
24:39
the
24:40
first
24:40
choice
24:40
director.
24:41
He
24:41
was
24:41
hired
24:42
in
24:42
2018
24:43
and
24:43
then
24:43
fired
24:44
after
24:44
his
24:44
sexual
24:45
abuse
24:45
allegations
24:45
came
24:46
to
24:46
light.
24:47
A
24:47
new
24:47
version,
24:48
written
24:48
and
24:48
directed
24:49
by
24:49
Joey
24:49
Soloway
24:50
was
24:50
announced
24:51
before
24:51
again,
24:51
nothing
24:52
happening.
24:53
Another
24:53
version
24:53
in
24:54
2021
24:55
was
24:55
being
24:55
written
24:55
by
24:56
Tasha
24:56
Howe
24:57
and
24:57
directed
24:57
by
24:57
Soloway
24:58
with
24:59
Hannah
24:59
John
24:59
Carman
25:00
lined
25:00
up
25:00
to
25:01
star,
25:01
but
25:01
by
25:02
March
25:02
2022
25:03
John
25:03
Carman
25:04
and
25:04
Soloway
25:04
had
25:04
left
25:05
the
25:05
production,
25:06
with
25:06
MJ
25:06
Bassett
25:07
now
25:07
the
25:08
new
25:08
writer
25:08
director.
25:10
In
25:10
August
25:10
2022,
25:11
Millennium
25:12
confirmed
25:12
production
25:13
of
25:13
the
25:13
new
25:13
Red
25:14
Sonja
25:14
had
25:14
begun
25:15
in
25:15
Bulgaria
25:16
with
25:16
Italian
25:17
actor
25:17
Matilda
25:18
Lutz
25:18
cast
25:19
as
25:19
Sonja,
25:19
with
25:20
the
25:20
character
25:20
based
25:21
on
25:21
the
25:21
Dynamic
25:21
Entertainment
25:22
version
25:22
of
25:23
the
25:23
character
25:23
where
25:24
the
25:24
original
25:24
Marvel
25:25
comic
25:25
Sonya
25:26
was
25:26
killed
25:26
and
25:26
replaced
25:27
by
25:27
Dynamite's
25:28
reincarnation.
25:30
And
25:30
this
25:30
new
25:30
version,
25:31
which
25:31
apparently
25:32
does
25:32
contain
25:33
much
25:33
more
25:33
chainmail
25:34
bikini
25:35
as
25:36
of
25:36
making
25:36
this
25:36
episode
25:37
is
25:37
not
25:37
yet
25:38
out,
25:38
but
25:38
by
25:39
the
25:39
time
25:39
this
25:39
episode
25:40
is
25:40
out
25:41
the
25:41
new
25:41
Red
25:41
Sonja
25:42
will
25:42
have
25:43
come
25:43
out
25:43
as
25:43
it's
25:44
due
25:44
to
25:44
be
25:44
released
25:44
in
25:45
the
25:45
US
25:45
on
25:46
13
25:46
August
25:47
2025,
25:48
apparently
25:49
for
25:49
one
25:49
day
25:50
only.
25:51
It's
25:51
a
25:51
bold
25:51
strategy,
25:52
Cotton.
25:52
Let's
25:53
see
25:53
if
25:53
it
25:53
pays
25:53
off
25:53
for
25:53
them.
25:54
It
25:54
then
25:55
goes
25:55
to
25:55
Video
25:55
on
25:56
Demand
25:56
in
25:56
the
25:56
US
25:56
on
25:57
29
25:58
August,
25:58
but
25:58
it
25:59
won't
25:59
be
25:59
out
25:59
in
25:59
the
25:59
UK
26:00
till
26:01
later
26:01
this
26:01
year.
26:03
But
26:03
back
26:03
to
26:03
this
26:03
red
26:04
Sonja
26:04
because
26:04
this
26:05
was
26:05
a
26:05
movie
26:05
I
26:05
remember
26:06
watching
26:06
a
26:06
lot
26:07
as
26:07
a
26:07
kid.
26:08
So
26:08
yes,
26:08
nostalgia
26:09
goggles
26:10
are
26:10
firmly
26:10
on
26:10
for
26:11
this
26:11
one.
26:11
But
26:12
while
26:12
I'll
26:12
never
26:12
say
26:12
it's
26:13
a
26:13
good
26:13
movie
26:13
or
26:14
even
26:14
an
26:14
okay
26:15
movie,
26:15
there
26:16
are
26:16
parts
26:16
of
26:16
it
26:16
that
26:17
I
26:17
really
26:17
like.
26:18
The
26:18
visual
26:19
effects
26:19
still
26:19
look
26:19
really
26:20
good,
26:20
I
26:20
have
26:21
it
26:21
on
26:21
blu
26:21
ray
26:21
and
26:21
the
26:22
matte
26:22
paintings
26:23
might
26:23
be
26:23
obvious,
26:24
but
26:24
they're
26:24
also
26:24
really
26:25
well
26:25
done.
26:25
I
26:26
adore
26:26
the
26:26
production
26:27
design.
26:27
In
26:27
some
26:27
areas
26:28
the
26:28
room
26:29
filled
26:29
with
26:29
candles.
26:30
I
26:30
have
26:30
no
26:31
idea
26:31
how
26:31
many
26:31
health
26:32
and
26:32
safety
26:32
assessments
26:33
they
26:33
had
26:33
to
26:33
write
26:33
up
26:34
to
26:34
get
26:34
that
26:34
done,
26:34
but
26:35
probably
26:35
none
26:35
because
26:36
this
26:36
was
26:36
the
26:36
80s.
26:37
But
26:37
it's
26:38
so
26:38
pretty.
26:39
The
26:39
sets
26:40
sometimes
26:40
look
26:40
a
26:40
bit
26:41
like
26:41
cardboard,
26:41
but
26:41
other
26:42
times
26:42
they
26:42
look
26:42
really
26:43
impressive.
26:44
This
26:44
is
26:44
a
26:44
movie
26:45
that
26:45
thrives
26:45
being
26:45
filmed
26:46
on
26:46
location,
26:46
and
26:47
I
26:47
especially
26:47
love
26:48
the
26:48
extended
26:48
fight
26:49
scene
26:49
between
26:49
Sonya
26:50
and
26:50
Caledor,
26:51
which
26:51
shows
26:51
they're
26:52
not
26:52
only
26:52
impressive
26:52
swordspeople
26:54
but
26:54
also
26:54
equals
26:55
in
26:55
every
26:55
respect.
26:56
Neither
26:56
is
26:57
given
26:57
much
26:57
if
26:58
any
26:58
character
26:59
development.
26:59
So
27:00
I
27:00
like
27:00
this.
27:00
I
27:01
also
27:01
like
27:01
that
27:02
Tarn
27:02
and
27:02
Falcon
27:02
are
27:03
so
27:03
bored
27:03
after
27:04
a
27:04
while
27:04
because
27:04
it's
27:04
been
27:05
going
27:05
on
27:05
so
27:05
long.
27:06
The
27:06
sword
27:07
choreography
27:07
is
27:08
no
27:08
Princess
27:08
Bride,
27:09
but
27:09
it's
27:09
fine.
27:10
You
27:10
can
27:10
tell
27:10
Brigitte
27:11
Nielsen
27:12
isn't
27:12
doing
27:12
most
27:12
of
27:12
her
27:13
own
27:13
stunts,
27:13
but
27:13
you
27:13
can
27:14
tell
27:14
Schwarzenegger
27:14
is.
27:15
And
27:15
honestly,
27:16
I'm
27:16
fine
27:16
with
27:16
Sonja
27:17
being
27:17
a
27:17
bit
27:17
bland
27:18
and
27:18
uninteresting
27:19
at
27:19
times.
27:20
What
27:20
always
27:20
struck
27:21
me,
27:21
even
27:21
as
27:21
a
27:22
child
27:22
was
27:22
this
27:22
being
27:23
a
27:23
live
27:23
action
27:24
fantasy
27:24
movie
27:25
with
27:25
a
27:25
female
27:26
hero
27:26
and
27:27
a
27:27
female
27:27
villain.
27:28
That
27:28
seemed
27:29
so
27:29
unique
27:29
to
27:30
me.
27:30
At
27:30
the
27:30
time,
27:31
and
27:31
while
27:31
as
27:31
a
27:31
child,
27:32
I
27:32
didn't
27:32
really
27:32
understand
27:33
the
27:33
reasons
27:34
why
27:34
Gedron
27:34
hated
27:35
Sonja
27:35
so
27:35
much.
27:36
The
27:36
queerness
27:37
of
27:37
the
27:37
character
27:37
is
27:38
so
27:38
blatant.
27:39
I
27:39
wonder
27:40
if
27:40
this
27:40
was
27:40
also
27:40
a
27:41
reason
27:41
that
27:41
this
27:41
movie
27:42
failed.
27:43
Not
27:43
only
27:43
do
27:43
we
27:43
have
27:44
an
27:44
openly
27:44
gay
27:45
villain,
27:45
but
27:46
rather
27:46
than
27:46
just
27:46
a
27:46
closeted
27:47
or
27:47
queer
27:47
coded
27:48
villain,
27:48
but
27:48
also
27:49
a
27:49
villain
27:49
who
27:49
uses
27:50
her
27:50
sexuality
27:51
to
27:51
oppress
27:51
others,
27:52
Sonja
27:53
refuses
27:54
her
27:54
advances,
27:54
so
27:55
Sonia
27:55
is
27:55
punished.
27:56
It's
27:57
not
27:57
really
27:57
the
27:57
best
27:58
depiction
27:58
of
27:58
a
27:58
lesbian
27:59
character
28:00
canonically.
28:00
Recent
28:01
depictions
28:01
of
28:02
Sonja
28:02
are
28:03
that
28:03
she
28:03
is
28:03
explicitly
28:04
bisexual
28:05
and
28:05
polyamorous,
28:06
but
28:06
back
28:06
in
28:06
the
28:07
80s
28:07
she
28:08
wasn't
28:08
canonically
28:09
bisexual
28:09
and
28:09
polyamorous.
28:11
And
28:11
this
28:11
is
28:11
undoubtedly
28:12
the
28:12
most
28:12
problematic
28:13
aspect
28:13
of
28:14
this
28:14
movie
28:14
because
28:15
it
28:15
aligns
28:15
being
28:16
homosexual
28:16
with
28:17
being
28:17
dark,
28:18
evil
28:18
and
28:19
basically
28:20
going
28:20
around
28:20
killing
28:20
innocent
28:21
men,
28:21
women
28:21
and
28:21
children
28:22
with
28:22
your
28:22
new
28:22
glowing
28:23
green
28:23
orb
28:23
that
28:24
only
28:24
women
28:24
can
28:24
touch,
28:25
while
28:25
also
28:25
ordering
28:26
the
28:26
rape
28:26
of
28:27
the
28:27
woman
28:27
who
28:27
declined
28:28
your
28:28
advances
28:28
and
28:29
murdering
28:29
her
28:29
entire
28:30
family,
28:31
save
28:31
for
28:31
a
28:31
sister
28:31
at
28:32
the
28:32
temple
28:32
who
28:32
happens
28:33
to
28:33
escape
28:33
but
28:34
still
28:34
is
28:34
eventually
28:35
killed
28:35
by
28:35
your
28:35
soldiers.
28:36
It's
28:37
not
28:37
the
28:37
best
28:37
representation,
28:39
but
28:39
again,
28:39
this
28:39
was
28:39
the
28:40
80s
28:40
and
28:41
nowadays
28:41
we
28:42
demand
28:42
more
28:42
from
28:42
our
28:43
queer
28:43
representation.
28:44
As
28:45
for
28:45
Sonja
28:45
herself,
28:46
Brigitte
28:47
Nielsen
28:47
does
28:47
the
28:48
best
28:48
with
28:48
a
28:48
terrible
28:49
script
28:49
where
28:50
Sonja
28:50
is
28:50
simultaneously
28:51
the
28:51
strongest
28:52
person
28:52
and
28:53
also
28:53
has
28:53
to
28:53
consistently
28:54
be
28:54
saved.
28:56
She
28:56
is
28:56
determined,
28:57
wise,
28:58
brave
28:58
and
28:58
strong.
28:58
She
28:59
has
28:59
constant
28:59
awareness
29:00
of
29:00
the
29:00
men
29:01
around
29:01
her.
29:02
And
29:02
no,
29:02
women
29:03
don't
29:03
need
29:03
to
29:03
like
29:04
men
29:04
better,
29:05
men
29:05
need
29:06
to
29:06
be
29:06
better.
29:07
And
29:07
to
29:07
be
29:07
honest,
29:08
the
29:08
experiences
29:09
Sonja
29:09
has
29:09
had
29:10
so
29:10
far
29:11
fully
29:11
support
29:11
her
29:12
wariness
29:12
of
29:12
men.
29:13
Clearly
29:14
she
29:14
trusts
29:14
her
29:14
grandmaster,
29:15
but
29:16
this
29:16
is
29:16
a
29:16
full
29:16
on
29:16
revenge
29:17
story
29:17
and
29:17
Kalidor
29:18
is
29:19
literally
29:19
just
29:19
stalking
29:20
a
29:20
woman
29:20
in
29:20
the
29:20
vain
29:21
hope
29:21
he
29:21
can
29:21
save
29:22
her.
29:22
And
29:22
of
29:22
course,
29:23
according
29:23
to
29:23
this
29:23
story,
29:24
he
29:24
does.
29:25
Several
29:25
times.
29:26
I
29:26
want
29:26
to
29:27
go
29:27
back
29:27
to
29:27
the
29:27
Rotten
29:27
Tomatoes
29:28
Summary.
29:29
Dull,
29:29
poorly
29:30
directed
29:31
and
29:31
badly
29:31
miscast,
29:32
Red
29:33
Sonja
29:33
is
29:33
an
29:33
uninspired
29:34
conclusion
29:35
to
29:35
Schwarzenegger's
29:36
Barbarian
29:37
trilogy.
29:38
Except
29:38
it's
29:39
not.
29:39
And
29:40
that's
29:40
the
29:40
point.
29:41
It's
29:41
both
29:41
an
29:41
adaptation
29:42
of
29:42
a
29:42
comic
29:43
book
29:43
and
29:43
also
29:44
not.
29:45
It's
29:45
a
29:45
sequel
29:45
slash
29:46
spin
29:46
off
29:46
to
29:46
Conan.
29:47
And
29:47
it's
29:47
also
29:48
not.
29:48
It's
29:49
Sonja
29:49
with
29:49
a
29:50
Y
29:50
and
29:50
Sonja
29:51
with
29:51
a
29:51
J.
29:51
It
29:52
doesn't
29:52
really
29:52
know
29:53
what
29:53
it
29:53
is
29:54
or
29:54
what
29:54
it
29:54
wants
29:54
to
29:55
be,
29:55
but
29:55
it's
29:56
also
29:56
not
29:56
the
29:56
absolute
29:57
disaster
29:57
people
29:58
make
29:58
it
29:58
out
29:58
to
29:58
be.
29:59
It's
29:59
not
30:00
as
30:00
dark
30:00
as
30:00
Conan
30:01
the
30:01
Barbarian
30:01
or
30:02
as
30:02
light
30:02
as
30:02
Conan
30:03
the
30:03
Destroyer,
30:04
and
30:04
it
30:04
could
30:04
have
30:05
been
30:05
a
30:05
trailblazer
30:06
had
30:06
it
30:06
actually
30:07
known
30:07
how
30:08
to
30:08
write
30:08
a
30:08
woman
30:09
as
30:09
more
30:09
than
30:10
just
30:10
a
30:10
stereotype.
30:12
But
30:12
yes,
30:13
I
30:13
think
30:13
it's
30:13
about
30:14
time.
30:14
We
30:15
credit
30:15
Red
30:15
Sonja
30:16
as
30:16
the
30:17
first
30:17
live
30:18
action
30:18
Marvel
30:19
movie,
30:20
but
30:20
maybe
30:21
Sonja
30:21
with
30:21
an
30:21
I
30:22
next
30:22
time.
30:23
Thank
30:24
you
30:24
for
30:24
listening.
30:24
As
30:24
always,
30:25
I
30:25
would
30:25
love
30:25
to
30:25
hear
30:25
your
30:25
thoughts
30:26
on
30:26
Red
30:26
Sonja.
30:27
And
30:27
as
30:28
always,
30:28
thank
30:28
you
30:28
for
30:28
your
30:29
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30:29
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31:17
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31:18
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31:18
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