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Recap of RHORI Reunion Part 2 · Housewives, Goss and Glitter

• 0:00
  SPEAKER_00: Hey everyone, welcome to Housewives Goss and Glitter.
• 0:02
  SPEAKER_00: Today we are covering the final part of the Rory Reunion Part 2.
• 0:08
  SPEAKER_00: And it definitely starts off with a bang.
• 0:12
  SPEAKER_00: But what was the description today?
• 0:14
  SPEAKER_00: Do you have that?
• 0:16
  SPEAKER_01: I don't because usually for the reunion, it's just like it's the reunion.
• 0:22
  SPEAKER_01: Whatever.
• 0:23
  SPEAKER_00: That makes sense.
• 0:24
  SPEAKER_00: So it starts off with a bang because we are back to uh Rula and Joelyn calling each other slut and Brian Slut.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_02: Yep.
• 0:37
  SPEAKER_00: You know, but then I really need more because Rula starts pointing to everyone and saying, You all know about Joelyn and how she is a whore.
• 0:50
  SPEAKER_00: And I just need I want more to this.
• 0:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that she sleeps with doctors, apparently.
• 0:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 0:57
  SPEAKER_00: I like I need more to this.
• 0:59
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like that's gonna be my next investigative thing because there's no there's nothing, no one else says anything about it.
• 1:09
  SPEAKER_00: It's just Rula.
• 1:11
  SPEAKER_00: And she hinted at it before in the in a couple of her confessionals.
• 1:17
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like she keeps trying to bring it up, but I honestly just think it's like Jo Ellen was super wild.
• 1:23
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think it's anything that she's hiding.
• 1:27
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:28
  SPEAKER_00: That would make sense because we know that she was wild in her twenties, so maybe she's just trying to find a way to throw it back in her face or something.
• 1:37
  SPEAKER_01: I after watching her and Gary, I do not think she is cheating on Gary.
• 1:42
  SPEAKER_01: I just don't.
• 1:43
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:44
  SPEAKER_00: Did you catch the end, like the very end of the thing where she says goodbye to him?
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, I did.
• 1:50
  SPEAKER_01: He was like pumped.
• 1:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he was like, okay, I'm ready.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: But um, anyway, so we continue on that, and Rula's just like, we know he made Brian made a mistake, like, we need to just put it aside.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, Yeah, that's the thing.
• 2:07
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, we've got a mistake.
• 2:09
  SPEAKER_01: Jo Ellen's like, whatever.
• 2:11
  SPEAKER_01: Rule is like calling her slut, and she's like, Your husband's a slut.
• 2:14
  SPEAKER_01: And Rula's like, set my husband aside.
• 2:17
  SPEAKER_01: He just made a mistake in a series of bad choices.
• 2:20
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, why are you still saying this?
• 2:24
  SPEAKER_01: It is so embarrassing, and he does not make much of a case for himself when he comes out, so it still remains embarrassing for Rula.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: I was really hoping for some sort of like something, and all he said is I can't speak to it.
• 2:37
  SPEAKER_00: And they're like, that's not even part of the case.
• 2:39
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I'm really confused.
• 2:40
  SPEAKER_00: Even Andy was like, Are you kidding?
• 2:42
  SPEAKER_01: He's a coward.
• 2:43
  SPEAKER_01: That's such bullshit.
• 2:44
  SPEAKER_01: That is not of so many of the questions he was asked have nothing to do with like this business NDA.
• 2:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like, the business NDA is different than some of the questions that were being talked about.
• 2:56
  SPEAKER_01: So he's just, I feel like that's what they decided they were going to do because they knew Brian was gonna get grilled, and they just stuck with it.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like, she was like, just don't say anything.
• 3:06
  SPEAKER_01: So you can't talk about it because of the case.
• 3:08
  SPEAKER_01: And that's what he did.
• 3:09
  SPEAKER_01: Because he's a coward, and because it's all true.
• 3:12
  SPEAKER_01: I just all I my biggest revelation, which is not even a revelation from watching this, was that I just hate Brian even more.
• 3:21
  SPEAKER_00: I know we got like absolutely nothing besides some like questionable, not even questionable like answers, it was just like he just didn't say much, he couldn't back himself up about anything.
• 3:35
  SPEAKER_00: It was just really, really frustrating to watch.
• 3:38
  SPEAKER_00: And then Rula got blindsided, like every which way.
• 3:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which was even more embarrassing.
• 3:44
  SPEAKER_01: It's like not only did this happen during the season where you're defending him and he's embarrassing you in real time, but now on the reunion, there's like more things coming out that you don't know about, and you're like continuing to defend him.
• 3:56
  SPEAKER_01: But then we can see during the commercial breaks that like she is getting surprised by stuff that he's doing.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_01: And he's the worst dressed one on the stage with his turquoise suit.
• 4:07
  SPEAKER_01: He looked like a really ugly dapper dan from Disneyland.
• 4:12
  SPEAKER_00: It was horrible.
• 4:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
• 4:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so when she but it was bad.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: It was bad.
• 4:19
  SPEAKER_00: And Jerry comes dressed in one Armani, I think.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 4:23
  SPEAKER_00: And they were all like complimenting him on that.
• 4:25
  SPEAKER_00: But I yeah, I thought everyone looks like pretty good.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: Jerry needed his hair fixed a little, but that's fine.
• 4:32
  SPEAKER_00: Um, but yeah, so when she was like, let's put it aside, he made a mistake, Andy's like, wait, and Liz is like, Joelyn didn't or like doesn't have good and like have good intentions, but even she admitted, like at this point Rula is just like trying to just avoiding like Joelyn says that she she started off with good intentions, and Rula just starts like to scream to like get her own life.
• 4:59
  SPEAKER_00: And it was rough, but a good one, the best quotes come out of the thing is she got new got a new nose and she got a new personality.
• 5:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, she definitely did not show the side to her at all during filming.
• 5:13
  SPEAKER_01: She was also gone a lot.
• 5:15
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's true.
• 5:17
  SPEAKER_00: That is true.
• 5:18
  SPEAKER_00: But I felt bad for Rula.
• 5:20
  SPEAKER_00: I really did, but I feel like she could have handled it differently.
• 5:24
  SPEAKER_00: She could have Brian could have definitely handled it differently.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: And at this point, she just needed to admit, like, yeah, like I get that she said that it happened, but at that point she sh she shouldn't she should have just admitted that yeah, Joelyn wasn't lying.
• 5:39
  SPEAKER_00: That I mean that's even all Gary asked for.
• 5:42
  SPEAKER_01: She she literally could have just admitted that she doesn't know when it ended because he's she knows he's been lying to her, and like he'll be out on stage and he can answer her questions.
• 5:52
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, it's very clear she's confused by the end of the relationship, and I don't know why she doesn't just say that it's like it's hit it's not on her, which is what they I mean, like we'll get to it, but that's like what they were trying to say at the end, and I feel bad for her because I'm like, why do you feel like you have defend that have to defend this so hard?
• 6:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like he was clearly lying to you the entire season, and he's been lying to you.
• 6:18
  SPEAKER_01: He's been it seems as though he's been lying to her since they met, and he tricked her into having too many drinks.
• 6:24
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oh my god, I almost forgot about that.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_01: He's a liar, he's so gross, he is in so many ways, but anyway, then Andy just changes the subject and he gets like a little snarky with Kelsey.
• 6:38
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, asks Rosie if her house is done and how big the project will end up being, and Rosie says July and 5,000 square feet, and then Andy turns to Kelsey, and he's like, So are you satisfied with that answer?
• 6:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like it was so funny, and like Rosie is like dying to get her sparkly briefcase of documents to bring it back out.
• 7:07
  SPEAKER_00: And she was like, I need to get my briefcase and my binder.
• 7:10
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and he's like, You're not leaving the stage to get these documents.
• 7:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Joel was allowed to bring documents out, so I don't know why the others like she wouldn't let Rula go get her documents, and Rosie couldn't bring hers, and I'm like, maybe they should have just come out with them.
• 7:24
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: Well, because Joelyn came out with her phone, she didn't leave to go get them.
• 7:29
  SPEAKER_00: So I wonder if like if they had just done that, but considering they couldn't even have water while interviewing, like it would be a all day without water.
• 7:38
  SPEAKER_00: I know maybe the giant sparkly briefcase, like just wasn't gonna cut it.
• 7:44
  SPEAKER_00: Kelsey then tries to say that like Rosie was just trying to like use old plans and that the people who had it in even Andy was like, it just seems like you do care, and she was like, but I don't care, and he was like, Seems like you do.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you, Andy.
• 8:00
  SPEAKER_01: But it does, it does seem that she cares because she says that she doesn't care, and then jumping ahead a little further into the conversation, and we can go back, but this is just like so relevant right now, is like, yeah, she was talking about how Rosie has two mortgages on her house.
• 8:17
  SPEAKER_01: It's like she said she doesn't care, but then she's like, I know you have two mortgages on your house, babe.
• 8:22
  SPEAKER_01: And Rosie's like, we have a mortgage and we have the construction loan because they have they're getting an addition, like they're building onto the house, and it's like you looked up this, these bank records?
• 8:34
  SPEAKER_01: Like, this is insane.
• 8:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like, Rosie's like, Yeah, we do it's we we're working on that house, and she was like saying that you know, she and Rich are 50-50 on the house, and they both paid, they both she was basically she was saying that like she put 50% of the down payment down and he put 50% of the down payment down, and Kelsey's like, Oh, she's just trying to say that she bought a six hundred and eighty-nine thousand dollar house outright, and Rosie's like, No, I'm not normal people need a mortgage.
• 9:05
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I know she was just living in a mansion and not paying bills, but like a normal person doesn't just like buy a house outright.
• 9:12
  SPEAKER_01: That's not what she was saying at all.
• 9:14
  SPEAKER_00: No, and the fact that she had to make tried to make it seem bad that they had two mortgages, and then and she's like, How did you find that out, Gary?
• 9:23
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, ooh, I feel like she did find it out from Gary because Jonah was sort of like smirked, and I'm like, that's so weird that you guys felt first of all, that isn't strange to especially because like the side, I imagine like they bought the house for less than you would think because didn't it start off as a one-bedroom, three bathroom?
• 9:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and now they're turning it into something for 5,000 square feet.
• 9:48
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like they have the mortgage on the house and then they have the additional funds to build on it.
• 9:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, why is this this isn't a scandal?
• 9:56
  SPEAKER_00: This is like what people do, it makes sense.
• 10:00
  SPEAKER_01: When you take out a slightly more larger mortgage to cover like a kitchen upgrade or something, like why if you're adding an entire edition, why I don't think Kelsey understands bills or things being in her name because she doesn't like provide her own basic needs, and so I think she will she was thinking Rosie was like lying about how she claims she just like bought this house, and I'm like, she did buy a house.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_01: You can say that you bought a house and have a mortgage, like most people, most normal people have mortgages.
• 10:38
  SPEAKER_00: It just doesn't make any sense.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 10:40
  SPEAKER_00: Kelsey is just crazy on this.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_01: She's obsessed with it.
• 10:47
  SPEAKER_01: But anyways, aside from that, like, what do you think about this Dolores thing?
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: So I heard it wasn't you and I that we were discussing the podcast on it or something.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Dolores was the one saying this on a podcast.
• 11:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that she was saying that Rosie doesn't like her being there, but they made this really short.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I feel like we missed a clip, like they cut it to just be that few sentences because Rosie was like, I got I liked being around Dolores a few times that like I did see her, and she was not really nice, and she made a good point.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, Do I have a say in something like that?
• 11:26
  SPEAKER_00: And Andy just goes, No, and she goes, Yeah, I couldn't even go get my binder.
• 11:30
  SPEAKER_01: It's true.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: I d I guess like I need more information because there was no interaction between them that would make me think that that was true.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, like there was nothing, and then that's the only part that we get, and then Dolores is only in two, three episodes, maybe.
• 11:50
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, all I know is that Rosie.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_01: She's filming the new season of New Jersey.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_01: So maybe production just wants her with the Jersey girls right now and want to start pushing the launch of that show.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I feel like that I mean, I do find it weird that she moved to Rhode Island for the summer and did a bunch more filming than they showed, is my understanding, and I don't know why that would be.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_01: But like I the girls on Rhode Island, it's their first season, like they have no power over the show.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't know why.
• 12:28
  SPEAKER_01: And like I feel like if there was drama between Rosie and Dolores, like they would have sh wanted to show it.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I mean, because I feel like they're both gonna go at it if there was some sort of drama.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't know why she I don't know why she said that.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: I find it like really strange, but I wonder if there was some like off-hand comment that she made to Liz at one point and then Liz went and parroted it back or something.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe.
• 12:51
  SPEAKER_01: Or is it becoming paranoid?
• 12:55
  SPEAKER_01: Dolores is taking some of Liz's weed and she's going paranoid, like her Yes.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, it's just I don't know.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_01: I I also thought like maybe production just decided that the girls were just such a good mix by themselves that they didn't need the extra from Dolores and like it just didn't fit with the show.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, it could have just been as simple as that.
• 13:17
  SPEAKER_00: Because I feel like the girls held their own so well this season that they didn't need that extra boost.
• 13:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like we've gotten more out of this season than like anything else.
• 13:29
  SPEAKER_00: 100%.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 13:31
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, that was I agree with you.
• 13:35
  SPEAKER_01: And okay, so the other topic with Rosie is her colitis for.
• 13:42
  SPEAKER_00: You're the only housewife to admit that you were bleeding out of your ass.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: So oh god, I wouldn't admit that.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: I would just say it's medical.
• 13:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but she goes there and but Kelsey's saying that she's lying and that Rosie ruined relationships at the news station.
• 14:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, at the news station.
• 14:04
  SPEAKER_00: And that is why she had to quit.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: It didn't have to do.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: And again, Rosie was like, I brought the records to show you.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: I can show you like my work records and my medical records, and I was just overwaking up at 2 30 in the morning.
• 14:17
  SPEAKER_01: Well, again, like this doesn't mean anything to me without any specific details.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like Kelsey was just very vaguely like, well, maybe the affair was just referring to the basketball coach and not anybody at work.
• 14:30
  SPEAKER_01: But I do know that the situation with her workplace, like relationships were ruined, and there was like a workplace incident.
• 14:38
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, if you're gonna bring it up, like bring up something a little more interesting.
• 14:42
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know what any of that means.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_01: Like, was it sexual harassment?
• 14:46
  SPEAKER_00: Was you know, like what was I feel like some of the stuff that Kelsey keeps saying just isn't backed up by anything, and she can't even come up with like specific incidents, and it's like how in the first part of the reunion, how Rula wanted to drag down Liz in a thing, but then not really want to confront Liz.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: So it was like you need to spit it out at this point.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: Like, no one's gonna believe it's a good idea.
• 15:12
  SPEAKER_01: Right, like if you're gonna bring it up in the reunion and it wasn't like really fleshed out during the season, it's like we want to hear more, otherwise, we're here to like rehash what happened on the season.
• 15:23
  SPEAKER_00: So that would be I honestly I feel like that's an Andy thing though to deep dive because he knows and he's their their moderate, so yeah.
• 15:32
  SPEAKER_01: I don't feel like we got any of this.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think any of the Rosie stuff really got like there wasn't any gotcha moments for me with Rosie.
• 15:41
  SPEAKER_01: No, no, I agree.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, then we should he's just going from lady to lady, so then we shift over to Alicia, and he asks her how she met Billy, and she says that he was a stalker, and that's what eventually won her over because she loves a stalker.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she loves a stalker and he was super persistent.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, that's that's your meet, your meat cue, as the new as the new term is, like, that's where you're going with this, and it was wicked funny, but even I feel like she was laughing as she said it, and he was like, Are there any wedding plans, anything happening?
• 16:21
  SPEAKER_00: And she was like, I'm talking about it.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: And she says she wants to go to Greece and have a mama mia moment.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, that's amazing.
• 16:29
  SPEAKER_01: I definitely agree.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like at this point it'd be kind of like ridiculous for them to feel obligated to have like the super traditional wedding back at home.
• 16:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like if they've basically been living as married for such a long time.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like if she wants to do like a little destination in Greece, like why not?
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she was like, Selena, him, my mom, the aunts, like that's it.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, that sounds really nice, and why do you need more than that?
• 16:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I think that that's a really good idea.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_01: I could totally see that.
• 17:01
  SPEAKER_01: She also says that she's partnering with oyster crackers for her own cracker, and it's so funny because so many people probably have no fucking idea what she's talking about, and we all know that she's talking about the crackers that go in your chatter.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, oyster crackers, and he goes, with who?
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: And she goes, I just call them the oyster cracker company.
• 17:21
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, She's like them, the people that make and then I'm thinking about it.
• 17:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I don't know if I really know who makes oyster crackers, but there's oyster crackers.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: There's just the one company that monopolizes those bad boys, and they're delicious.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like I could totally see that, and she should do that.
• 17:42
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, Andy asked the dumbest fucking question here I've ever heard.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: I looked it up.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: Oh sorry.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: So the oyster crackers are produced by several major brands and regional bakeries.
• 17:53
  SPEAKER_00: The most notable manufacturers are Westminster Baking Comp Bakers Company, Nabisco, and then Old Cape Cod with an E.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, we're thinking of Old Cape Cod, right?
• 18:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it has to be, right?
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it has to be because I feel like it's not Nabisco.
• 18:12
  SPEAKER_01: I'm not thinking of any big brand at all.
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's definitely 100% like old.
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, it's either Westminster where you get like the little packets, or if you bop offs, it's the old Cape Cod.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_01: I'm thinking of the little packets that come with your channel.
• 18:31
  SPEAKER_00: Those would be the Westminster ones.
• 18:33
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: It looks like.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: Because those are the ones that my work has with their soup bar.
• 18:38
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry.
• 18:41
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: She's partnering with one of those brands, but yeah, Andy has the dumbest fucking question.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: How do you stay so lean when you eat so many crackers?
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's like oh my god, it was so dumb.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_01: It was so dumb.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: What about her diet seems fattening to you?
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: It seems like she grazes on like small things all day.
• 19:08
  SPEAKER_01: She they just wanted a Jane's Fonda moment.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: They did.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's why it was asked.
• 19:14
  SPEAKER_00: Stays fit with Jane's Fonda, and she eats a lot of almonds.
• 19:18
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Yeah, oh my god.
• 19:21
  SPEAKER_01: I do think it was funny when they started talking about like the prenup and Ashley and Rosie chime in to talk about how I thought it was really nice that Ashley was like, Billy is like the nicest guy, and I'm sure he would never leave you without 50%.
• 19:38
  SPEAKER_01: And Rosie's like, Yeah, Billy's the best.
• 19:40
  SPEAKER_01: And Alicia just goes, Yeah, he's all right.
• 19:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, she's like very tough on him.
• 19:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like when he came out, he goes, Oh, I love your dress, Alicia.
• 19:50
  SPEAKER_01: And she turns to him, she goes, Oh, shut up, Billy.
• 19:52
  SPEAKER_01: Did you hear that?
• 19:53
  SPEAKER_01: She's like not nice to him, and it's really hilarious.
• 19:57
  SPEAKER_01: I I learned so much about their relationship during this.
• 20:00
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like they're just like one of those couples that constantly jokes, and she's probably like, when he says something like, I like your address, she's probably like, he's like, he fucking hates it or something, and that's why he's like, Shut up.
• 20:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it was so funny.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: Um I just thought it was crazy that Kelsey was trying to give her financial advice.
• 20:22
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Kelsey's just like, it's important for you to open up your own bank account.
• 20:26
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, you were literally just in an episode talking about how you'd have no idea what a principal payment is and how your boyfriend's covering your health insurance in your car, and like blah blah blah.
• 20:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm it's just like it's like you need your own bank account for the money that you make.
• 20:41
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, okay, I get where you're coming from, but like Kelsey, you just the money you were making, if you had an allowance and you never had to like lift a finger and your boyfriend paid for everything, I bet you it didn't matter if you had a bank account because what you were making on the few times you did hair were like pennies.
• 20:57
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, there's so much more to that.
• 20:59
  SPEAKER_01: The Alicia thing is more complicated than we knew.
• 21:04
  SPEAKER_01: And like we'll we'll get to it, but I my other big revelation revelation from this is that like she's definitely the issue here.
• 21:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I think that I honestly think that he does have everything taken care of, and like he might have a slightly misogynistic viewpoint, but I honestly do feel like she has no interest in learning this.
• 21:28
  SPEAKER_01: So like I think he's just been handling it because of that, but I do not think he has like bad intentions at all.
• 21:36
  SPEAKER_00: No, because she's like, I don't want to see the statement, I don't want to have to ask this person, and then we find out that she's there to like literally help Alicia and like figure stuff out so she doesn't get screwed over on like taxes, and she was like, how do you down that without a meeting?
• 21:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, he she has to like try to meet him in the middle there because it does seem Sound like he's been trying to take steps to like educate her on this stuff, and she's been resistant to it.
• 22:07
  SPEAKER_01: So, and she just keeps saying, Yeah, but he knows me.
• 22:10
  SPEAKER_01: He knows I'm not gonna want to like listen to that, and then I'm gonna get bored.
• 22:13
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, but then how are you supposed to learn it if you refuse to like meet with the people that are managing your money?
• 22:20
  SPEAKER_01: Like the house thing is not straightforward because the trust probably has, like Lula was saying, it's not just the house.
• 22:28
  SPEAKER_01: There's probably a whole family of assets that are in the trust.
• 22:33
  SPEAKER_01: And if she just read it or had somebody read it to her, she would know her and Selena's portion of it, or she would know that the whole thing is like to them if something happened.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_01: But she doesn't know that because she's not going to meet with the financial people.
• 22:50
  SPEAKER_01: So it's you have to do that.
• 22:52
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, you have to do something.
• 22:53
  SPEAKER_01: You either have to read it yourself or you have to let somebody explain it to you.
• 22:57
  SPEAKER_00: So but Rula, then it turns out that Rula is the only one with a prenup while they're having this discussion.
• 23:03
  SPEAKER_00: A prenup for what marriage?
• 23:05
  SPEAKER_00: The marriage that was by the priest.
• 23:08
  SPEAKER_00: I you I'm gonna figure out how to look up marriage records at some point this week.
• 23:13
  SPEAKER_00: I was just thinking, like, I was down the rabbit hole today reading about the affair, and someone was like, It seems like Rula probably has a prenup, right?
• 23:24
  SPEAKER_00: If they are actually married or whatever, and she's holding out for like a 10-year marriage mark to get a divorce, because then after the 10 years or yeah, whatever, then she gets a significant portion, or maybe it's even flip-flopped, and if she makes it past a certain point, she doesn't have to give Brian as much of whatever she's earned from her company.
• 23:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, because they both have one.
• 23:50
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, could be an inch a very interesting take.
• 23:54
  SPEAKER_01: We take a break and they're introducing us to the husbands chatting in the back room, and to me, the biggest thing here was like Bill says that Kelsey's his little slam pig.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: I was like, Are you serious about this?
• 24:13
  SPEAKER_00: And then they're all talk that one, and then they're talking about the fights, and Billy is like, I had no idea about the fights, and Alicia just goes, They were terrible, the worst night of my life.
• 24:24
  SPEAKER_00: I'm too stressed out, and like wouldn't give them more detail.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: So he's like, I didn't even know about them until I watched the show.
• 24:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Alicia like doesn't fill him in on what's going on in the show, which is so fucking funny.
• 24:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yep, she's like, I don't want to talk about it neither.
• 24:38
  SPEAKER_00: Then we like slide back into it, and they're like filming the little bit before it starts officially, and we find out that Liz and Jerry have been married for 22 years with a few stints here and there, and Rulu just goes, It happens, and then they're like, anyway, five, four, three, two, one show.
• 24:56
  SPEAKER_00: What?
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: Also, the way Liz said 22 years and like puts her head down, it was like really weird.
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: It was a it felt like a weird moment to witness.
• 25:06
  SPEAKER_01: Liz said nothing, like the whole second half of this reunion.
• 25:10
  SPEAKER_01: And did you notice that?
• 25:11
  SPEAKER_01: She like did not talk.
• 25:12
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, she said like one thing.
• 25:14
  SPEAKER_01: That's it.
• 25:15
  SPEAKER_00: It was about the Joelan having bad intentions, and she was asked about it.
• 25:20
  SPEAKER_01: And then she just said, Oh, thanks for clearing up the Block Island thing, and like that was all she said.
• 25:25
  SPEAKER_01: There was like absolutely nothing from Liz this whole second half.
• 25:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm suspicious that she's not coming back next season.
• 25:31
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think she enjoyed this.
• 25:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that makes sense.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but anyway, we There's only been three uh confirm me, like three people have said in interviews that they're coming back.
• 25:42
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's Alicia, Ashley, and Joelan, maybe.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: I think.
• 25:47
  SPEAKER_00: So I don't know.
• 25:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'm suspicious that she's not coming back, and that could also be maybe because of these persistent Dino rumors, but who knows?
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, or maybe she's got something going on with the Dino case.
• 26:00
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe that's why Dolores isn't coming back because that's the connection.
• 26:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I know there could be a lot to that.
• 26:06
  SPEAKER_01: I want her to come back because I feel like there are more interesting things to uncover with that.
• 26:11
  SPEAKER_01: But she looked like for the majority of the reunion, Liz looked pretty miserable.
• 26:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I feel like it wasn't exactly the cup of tea that she expected.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 26:22
  SPEAKER_01: But anyway, we get back from the break and we start talking about Kelsey's brain tumor.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_01: So she was in an accident before competing for Miss Rhode Island.
• 26:32
  SPEAKER_01: She went in to get like her head checked or a brain scan, and then like because of the accident, and they found a tumor the size of a golf ball that she waited until after the pageant to have removed because she wanted to compete.
• 26:47
  SPEAKER_00: I thought that part was crazy.
• 26:48
  SPEAKER_00: If I had a golf ball size tumor in my head that was found randomly, and they're like, Oh, it could fuck up your vision forever, I'd be like, you know what?
• 26:57
  SPEAKER_00: Take it.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_01: My whole drop over that.
• 27:02
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know if I'd want to try, I don't know if I'd want to like compete.
• 27:07
  SPEAKER_00: But I guess it would depend on how long between the competition and the surgery, but at the same time, I only know this because of you.
• 27:14
  SPEAKER_00: You are you have so many commitments, and like how long do you go for like everything just to become Miss Rhode Island?
• 27:23
  SPEAKER_01: It's a huge commitment, and then after you win, you have to start preparing for Miss USA, and she won.
• 27:30
  SPEAKER_01: So that's like huge.
• 27:33
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I get like still wanting to compete, it's just that you know, you can compete again next year.
• 27:42
  SPEAKER_01: So I've like I found out I had a brain tumor that size, my whole life, everything would go on the back burner to get that thing removed.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know if it would mean that much to me compared to like my health, my well-being.
• 27:57
  SPEAKER_01: It's like also she was saying they said your vision could be impaired forever, but it's like she could also die from a brain tumor.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_01: So that's what I would be thinking about, but but I mean, she did fucking win Miss Rhode Island, and that is super competitive.
• 28:13
  SPEAKER_01: So, like that's the ever since Olivia she's married to that football player.
• 28:20
  SPEAKER_00: The hairstyle are you telling me?
• 28:22
  SPEAKER_01: Olivia Culpo.
• 28:24
  SPEAKER_01: Oh she's married to Christian McCaffrey.
• 28:28
  SPEAKER_01: Um, ever since she won, like, there's so many girls that compete for Rhode Island.
• 28:34
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like it's really competitive, so it's a huge accomplishment that she won that.
• 28:39
  SPEAKER_01: I just probably I mean, I don't know if it was her last year to compete at that time, but I definitely would have just gotten the frickin' surgery.
• 28:47
  SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
• 28:48
  SPEAKER_00: Done that and been like, can we do something with my extensions to cover the bald spot?
• 28:54
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, which you uh absolutely can.
• 28:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so then they started talking about this escort thing.
• 29:00
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even want to say the line because I was like so grossed out.
• 29:04
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, she never let anyone pay to put stuff in her holes or something along those lines.
• 29:09
  SPEAKER_00: Well, now I have to say it.
• 29:11
  SPEAKER_01: She said she's never sold any of her holes for money.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 29:14
  SPEAKER_01: And I was like, ugh, why?
• 29:17
  SPEAKER_00: It seems like a very Kelsey Rhode Island line to say, though.
• 29:22
  SPEAKER_01: They're a very crass group.
• 29:23
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even like saying slam pick, but we have to because it's become such a big part of the show.
• 29:28
  SPEAKER_00: That is true.
• 29:29
  SPEAKER_00: But it seems like when I hear when I heard that line, I was like, oh, yep, we're definitely in New England.
• 29:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like, yeah, yeah.
• 29:37
  SPEAKER_01: So she's saying that these fake escort pages were made, she thinks, by an actual escort from Boston who was hanging around with the same crew of people she was hanging out with.
• 29:51
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, why?
• 29:53
  SPEAKER_01: Because we were hanging out with all older men that are patronizing escorts?
• 29:58
  SPEAKER_01: Because that's exactly what's the first thing that I fucking thought of when she said that.
• 30:01
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, it sounds like you're hanging out with all men that are like 20 years older than you, and they're with these girls that are you're with the company that you keep.
• 30:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like, are they how do you know a high-paid escort from Boston?
• 30:18
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 30:20
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's either because you're in you are an escort, or like you're with people who frequently hire the escorts, which still doesn't make you seem not like an escort.
• 30:33
  SPEAKER_01: I think that there's a spectrum to this, and I think she's on it.
• 30:37
  SPEAKER_01: It's just probably not like super black and white, but it sounds like she's been with lots of older men, and maybe she was given things, or maybe not.
• 30:48
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't I wouldn't necessarily call that an escort, but I think that this arrangement with her ex was definitely not the first.
• 30:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I don't know.
• 31:00
  SPEAKER_00: I found that like I found her comment really interesting, and she's like, Well, I did go to the police barracks, and I'm like, what a funny way to put it, the police barracks.
• 31:08
  SPEAKER_01: And yeah, I thought that was weird too, because it reminded me of like the army.
• 31:13
  unknown: Right?
• 31:13
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, you went to the state police, but you didn't just go like the police station, state anyway.
• 31:19
  SPEAKER_00: So she says that she followed the police report, they did investigate it.
• 31:23
  SPEAKER_00: I did read something like that, like where the pages were fake, people were making the fake Facebook, the fake escort page.
• 31:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 31:31
  SPEAKER_00: And they're still waiting to find out who it is.
• 31:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then Andy brought up a good point, and he was wondering if perhaps it is an ex of the guy, like her boyfriend.
• 31:43
  SPEAKER_00: But then Andy with the this was a good question.
• 31:47
  SPEAKER_00: He wanted to know who was paying for all of her things now, and she did admit that Bill was paying for her car, but she pays for her insurance.
• 31:57
  SPEAKER_01: What about everything else?
• 31:59
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 32:00
  SPEAKER_01: She only ever mentions those two things, like those are the only things that you need to like live.
• 32:04
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what happens to like the electricity?
• 32:07
  SPEAKER_00: The like, how do you go out to eat?
• 32:10
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's what I'm saying.
• 32:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what about even just like yeah, going out and about?
• 32:15
  SPEAKER_01: Like, is she just using a credit card of bills or is that her own money?
• 32:19
  SPEAKER_00: Like, that's maybe it's her own, maybe she does have enough hair clients that she does have money.
• 32:25
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just curious.
• 32:26
  SPEAKER_01: I just think it's funny that she only ever like hones in on those two bills.
• 32:30
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, I mean, there's a lot more.
• 32:33
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's very funny, and I feel like if well, I guess because she has to pay out of pocket for like a plan because she's like not employed, that insurance is like that expensive.
• 32:44
  SPEAKER_00: But I never be like, oh man, Slater's gotta pay for my insurance.
• 32:49
  SPEAKER_00: Like, I it's not the first bill that would come up with.
• 32:52
  SPEAKER_00: It'd be like, How am I putting gas in my car?
• 32:54
  SPEAKER_00: How am I paying my electricity?
• 32:56
  SPEAKER_00: Who's buying groceries?
• 32:57
  SPEAKER_00: Stuff like that.
• 32:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then we also find out that the boyfriend at the time was gonna be on the show until he found out it was the housewives, and he was like, Never mind, and he was in our casting tapes.
• 33:10
  SPEAKER_01: But I want to know when they started casting and when they find out, because why didn't he know at first that it was for the housewives?
• 33:21
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes when it comes to reality TV, they'll post like random things, and they'll be like a cooking competition if you're between this and this and you do this, or like they'll be like, We're gonna film a new dating show or something.
• 33:35
  SPEAKER_00: Like, they don't necessarily say what it's for until we're like in it.
• 33:41
  SPEAKER_00: But we know for a fact that her and Bill were together for two years and she hadn't lived in the house, and then she was asked to use the house for filming.
• 33:51
  SPEAKER_01: Her response to all that was that like they were off and on, is basically what I got out of that.
• 33:57
  SPEAKER_01: Which, yeah, it seems like she probably was still kind of skirting around the truth, but but we didn't still not convince yeah.
• 34:05
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we did find out a lot of regardless, we found out a lot of interesting things, uh, more detail about the relationship.
• 34:13
  SPEAKER_01: So she says she doesn't like the polyamory title, and she wanted to emphasize that, like at first, she just started finding out about other relationships that he had as she got further along in the relationship, and then she was initially jealous of this woman that she found out about in Miami, who Liz knows apparently, and then she met the woman and they agreed to just like keep him off their social medias, and it was kind of like out of sight, out of mind.
• 34:46
  SPEAKER_01: And then after that point, it was sort of just like a free-for-all, and she like knew other things were going on, and then it was became an open relationship, and then he split with the Miami woman in 2020, and ever since then he's had like multiple women and nope, you go for it.
• 35:06
  SPEAKER_01: So, another interesting tidbit is that he also used to date pre-Kel, like I'm assuming this was a long time ago.
• 35:13
  SPEAKER_00: He also used to date Paula Abdul, and he spent the night at Paula Abdul's house when they were in LA together.
• 35:20
  SPEAKER_01: She says that they're like, at first, I was like, Oh my god, was he cheating on Paula Abdul with Kelsey?
• 35:24
  SPEAKER_01: And then I was like, No, that's ridiculous.
• 35:26
  SPEAKER_01: She said that they they're like friends now, like him and Paula Abdul are like still friends to this day.
• 35:32
  SPEAKER_01: And then she Andy asked how they met, and she said Kelsey met her ex at this fucking infamous tanning salon.
• 35:42
  SPEAKER_01: What is this tanning salon that Joelyn used to work at?
• 35:45
  SPEAKER_01: Where Joelyn was sleeping with both the owner and the owner's wife, and the owner of the tanning salon is the best friend of Kelsey's ex.
• 35:54
  SPEAKER_01: And also, so Joel and it seems has slept with the tanning salon owner, the owner's wife, Kelsey's boyfriend, and Kelsey's boyfriend's brother.
• 36:07
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 36:08
  SPEAKER_00: Wild.
• 36:10
  SPEAKER_00: It is absolutely wild.
• 36:11
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, she met him at the tanning salon.
• 36:16
  SPEAKER_01: What is this tanning salon?
• 36:17
  SPEAKER_01: This is like the wildest fucking tanning salon I have ever heard of in my life.
• 36:28
  SPEAKER_01: That is what that is what it is, though.
• 36:30
  SPEAKER_01: That's what we know.
• 36:31
  SPEAKER_00: She's only admitted to this, and she admitted to the I know, but maybe it's like a swingers gathering place.
• 36:38
  SPEAKER_01: At the salon?
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: Who knows?
• 36:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's a front.
• 36:42
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 36:43
  SPEAKER_01: It's just so that was just so wild and interesting.
• 36:48
  SPEAKER_01: But I also think that's where I that whole story is where I think that like Joellen has at one point been a swinger with Gary or used to have an open relationship with Gary or something, because Gary said that they started g dating and stuff like after high school.
• 37:06
  SPEAKER_01: So it seems like this is the whole like her 20s being wild.
• 37:10
  SPEAKER_01: I feel like before they had kids, they were probably just doing whatever, it seems.
• 37:15
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
• 37:16
  SPEAKER_00: I guess so.
• 37:17
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 37:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like the more and more we get to learn.
• 37:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's crazy.
• 37:22
  SPEAKER_01: But Kelsey did say that her ex does like the show, he enjoys it, and he watches, and then he's like a fan of the housewives, apparently.
• 37:29
  SPEAKER_00: Why not?
• 37:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he knows all of them.
• 37:31
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 37:33
  SPEAKER_01: I can't okay.
• 37:34
  SPEAKER_01: So this conversation ends, and then it's very, very abruptly.
• 37:39
  SPEAKER_01: Andy just turns to Rula and goes, Rula, how are you and Brian doing?
• 37:42
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 37:43
  SPEAKER_00: There's like nothing.
• 37:44
  SPEAKER_00: It's just like anyone else's boyfriends pay for things.
• 37:47
  SPEAKER_00: Everyone, no one else raises their hand, and then Rula, how are you and Brian doing?
• 37:52
  SPEAKER_00: They're just came out like left field.
• 37:55
  SPEAKER_00: Awkward.
• 37:56
  SPEAKER_00: So awkward.
• 37:57
  SPEAKER_00: He goes, she goes, you know, day by day, taking it day by day.
• 38:01
  SPEAKER_00: And then he goes, Oh man, he was trying to stir stuff up.
• 38:05
  SPEAKER_00: Who believes that Rula was sick?
• 38:07
  SPEAKER_00: And then at first, only two of the girls raised their hand, and then everyone but Liz raises their hand.
• 38:14
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so Liz is harboring all this stuff against Rula.
• 38:18
  SPEAKER_00: I guess so.
• 38:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:20
  SPEAKER_01: Liz like hates everyone right now.
• 38:21
  SPEAKER_00: Did you not notice that?
• 38:22
  SPEAKER_01: She was the only one to not raise her hand.
• 38:25
  SPEAKER_01: No, I didn't notice that.
• 38:26
  SPEAKER_01: I thought they all raised their hand.
• 38:29
  SPEAKER_01: I here's the thing is I do think that some scenes were kind of ridiculous, like when she had like a full face of makeup on and like a hat.
• 38:37
  SPEAKER_01: But I do think a lot of it was like stress.
• 38:41
  SPEAKER_01: Like she looked to me, she looked super skinny and sick because of like stress.
• 38:46
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 38:47
  SPEAKER_00: I could definitely see her being stressed, and then like the stress being so bad that she can't go to the mansion or something.
• 38:53
  SPEAKER_00: Her calling from bed with a full face of makeup and a hat on and your hair done doesn't exactly scream when they're like out at the winery, oh I'm sick.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 39:03
  SPEAKER_01: She says that like stress probably played a part in it.
• 39:07
  SPEAKER_01: And she was this is where she starts to use the whole like narrative that like basically all summer Brian was telling her that things were over, but that he was just trying to like manage the mistress, like basically try to like talk her off a ledge and not do anything crazy.
• 39:25
  SPEAKER_01: And that was what was allowing her to like discount what Joelen was telling her.
• 39:30
  SPEAKER_01: So that's like where we get like Rula's reasoning for why she acted the way that she acted.
• 39:38
  SPEAKER_01: And they briefly touch on the tracker thing.
• 39:42
  SPEAKER_01: I didn't remember that Joel and warned her about the tracker.
• 39:45
  SPEAKER_01: Did they show that?
• 39:46
  SPEAKER_00: No, so they didn't.
• 39:48
  SPEAKER_00: So when I was looking up more about it, they're like never before aired scene and on Bravo.com and they show that clip where they showed uh Joelan mentioning the tracker at Polo.
• 40:03
  SPEAKER_00: So it was it.
• 40:05
  SPEAKER_00: Why didn't they fucking put that in that episode?
• 40:09
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 40:10
  SPEAKER_01: And also, I don't know how Rulan Rulan, I don't know how Rula could know that in her head, that Joelan warned her about this tracker.
• 40:22
  SPEAKER_01: This was such a bad incident that Brian was arrested and they had a no-contact order, and she's still as mad at Joelan.
• 40:28
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Joelyn tried to warn you about something really creepy that he was doing to you.
• 40:33
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like she was so mad at Polo about just the way everything was handled and the fact that she probably felt that she was being attacked by Liz and Joelin because they went and like whisked her off while like Brian and then the whole thing with the wedding ring, which we find out more about later.
• 40:52
  SPEAKER_01: More of his lies.
• 40:53
  SPEAKER_00: I can't I can't stand him.
• 40:56
  SPEAKER_00: And so she that she may have been so stressed that like didn't register, or maybe she just thought like how everyone was like, Oh, we have like the trackers, like the find my friend thing for our significant others just know like where they are.
• 41:12
  SPEAKER_01: Um very, very creepy this tracker thing.
• 41:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I know a lot of couples that like share their locations, but that's never that's not what this was though at all.
• 41:23
  SPEAKER_00: No, this was beyond, and they even talk about that like with the other girls, like it's beyond sharing your location.
• 41:29
  SPEAKER_00: Like this was full-on tracking to make sure that she wasn't gonna like be home when the mistress was there.
• 41:37
  SPEAKER_01: Then this whole thing with the Spanish teacher comes up, and it starts off with Alicia and her confessional that she hopes the rumors about Brian cheating on her Spanish teacher with Rula are not true because she loves her Spanish teacher.
• 41:53
  SPEAKER_00: So that yes, then we end up in this whole anniversary Spanish teacher or when they got divorced, blah blah blah, and it's insane.
• 42:03
  SPEAKER_00: And yes, like you said, Alicia really liked her Spanish teacher and hope that Brian didn't cheat on her.
• 42:08
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, we also get a really good view of Joellen's investigative prowess.
• 42:14
  SPEAKER_01: She could be like a prosecutor.
• 42:17
  SPEAKER_00: For real.
• 42:18
  SPEAKER_00: But to be honest, I went and looked up the same court record she did.
• 42:21
  SPEAKER_00: It takes like 15 seconds.
• 42:23
  SPEAKER_00: But the fact that she went and looked it up is crazy.
• 42:27
  SPEAKER_01: It was more the line of questioning.
• 42:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like she was like going, like it was like a cross, it just it reminded me of like a cross-examination.
• 42:37
  SPEAKER_00: Of like from law and order, and like you're just waiting for you've got bad cop, like the bad cop, good cop thing going on, except if there was no good cop.
• 42:45
  SPEAKER_00: And she's just like, I need to know your anniversary.
• 42:49
  SPEAKER_00: When did you guys get married?
• 42:50
  SPEAKER_00: Are you actually married?
• 42:51
  SPEAKER_00: Did you have a kid out of wedlock?
• 42:52
  SPEAKER_00: Like, it's totally fine if you had a kid out of wedlock, and Rula is like, What the fuck is happening?
• 42:58
  SPEAKER_01: So Rula's story is that Brian got divorced from the Spanish teacher in 2010, then she met Brian in 2013, and then they got married in 2016, although she refuseslash can't remember the date of her own anniversary.
• 43:17
  SPEAKER_01: Joel's claim, and what she's trying to prove through this line of questioning, is that Brian wasn't actually divorced from the Spanish teacher until March of 2016, and she's actually gone so far as to look up the divorce documents herself, and she's basically insinuating that like Rula and Brian aren't even like legally married, like, or he tried to like marry Rula while not being official when not being officially divorced from this other woman.
• 43:51
  SPEAKER_01: So she's like, What's your actual anniversary?
• 43:53
  SPEAKER_01: Because you couldn't possibly have married him on the date that you're saying because he was still married and didn't get divorced until March of 2016.
• 44:00
  SPEAKER_01: And Rula's like, I'm not telling you the anniversary of our wedding.
• 44:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it just seems like they didn't even have a wedding.
• 44:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it totally makes sense.
• 44:09
  SPEAKER_00: Because then she says it's the day we got blessed by the priest.
• 44:12
  SPEAKER_00: But you that's not the way to put it, but maybe it's something more in her culture.
• 44:17
  SPEAKER_00: But then I was but I don't know.
• 44:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's weird just because she is I I don't know what she knows, what she actually knows, or what she's hiding with the date of their marriage, if they actually are legally married.
• 44:35
  SPEAKER_01: But I mean, I would find it hard to believe that he'd be able to hide something like that for 10 years because she's a finance person, and like if you're legally married, it changes the way you file your taxes.
• 44:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like there's financial things that you have to have like your marriage documents for, and like she manages finances, so I'm like, I mean, if they don't have like actual like legal marriage paperwork, I feel like Rula would know that.
• 45:06
  SPEAKER_00: No, I feel like it too, and what because even Brian, even Brian, even Andy's like, well, he's lied about other things before.
• 45:14
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe he uh did lie about the date that he was divorced.
• 45:18
  SPEAKER_00: But when you look at it, really was when you look at the court records, it really was drawn out drawn out, like it was filed in like 2010, they're obviously separated.
• 45:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, uh there's like a 2015, it doesn't even look like anything really went on, and then it's like in 2016 the divorce was granted.
• 45:39
  SPEAKER_00: Now, Joelan trying to say that you know, like Brian and her couldn't have had a relationship without him cheating on the wife, they were separated in 2011, right?
• 45:53
  SPEAKER_00: So they could have started their relationship in 2013, and maybe he did say he was divorced, he could have been separated, but also if it was finalized in 2016 and she got married in 2016, who's to say she didn't get married as soon as it was fine?
• 46:10
  SPEAKER_01: So that's sort of my theory that I'm going with is I think that he was honestly separated from this woman.
• 46:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think he lied to Rula on the fact that they were officially divorced because Rula does have the traditional family background.
• 46:29
  SPEAKER_01: So I think he claimed that he was already divorced when it was still still wasn't like official and remained unofficial for years.
• 46:38
  SPEAKER_01: And I think Rula didn't know that.
• 46:40
  SPEAKER_01: And I think that yeah, their marriage must have happened pretty quickly after his divorce, which he probably purposely timed.
• 46:48
  SPEAKER_01: Like he probably very intentionally timed whenever they got married to being close to March, like not before March of 2016, you know what I mean?
• 46:59
  SPEAKER_01: But I just don't know why Rula was being so weird about it, because if that's the case and she just didn't know the date he actually got divorced, why wouldn't she just be like, Yeah, we got married in July of 2016?
• 47:14
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's the I just don't understand why she's being weird about the wedding anniversary date.
• 47:21
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, does she know something?
• 47:23
  SPEAKER_01: Because I just why wouldn't she just say, Yeah, we got married whatever the date was after March of 2016?
• 47:32
  SPEAKER_01: There's like I said, like there's paperwork associated with your marriage that like affect other things in your life.
• 47:40
  SPEAKER_01: So unless they keep everything absolutely 100% separate, I don't see how he could have gotten by without a channel.
• 47:47
  SPEAKER_01: Because did she change his last name?
• 47:50
  SPEAKER_00: Her last name is the it's Nem or whatever Pontavelli, right?
• 47:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so if I'm not changing your name, you have to have your rant.
• 47:58
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, you don't have to, but like I changed my last name to form Mary and I showed my I had to show my marriage certificate.
• 48:03
  SPEAKER_00: Like update my passport, right?
• 48:06
  SPEAKER_01: And like for there's financial stuff too that changes, like if you are combined, I mean, just for tax purposes, you have to be legally married to file jointly.
• 48:16
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I don't I don't know what they're doing, like maybe they do keep I don't know, but I just would find it weird that he would be able to dupe her on that.
• 48:24
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, I'll have a pre-map and then not be married, right?
• 48:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, so that's what I'm confused.
• 48:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't get why she just won't say the date.
• 48:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like, maybe she was genuinely surprised when maybe she got married super close to March 2016, and she just didn't know that that's when his divorce was finalized, and she just doesn't want to say that.
• 48:44
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like maybe they got married in like April, right?
• 48:47
  SPEAKER_01: So it's weird, and then yeah, Rule is like, Well, this is the first time hearing of this, so why don't you ask Brian?
• 48:54
  SPEAKER_01: Just basically more Brian lies.
• 48:56
  SPEAKER_01: He just blows, he does, he lies about it.
• 49:00
  SPEAKER_01: He just feels like he's been lying for the last like 15 years minimum.
• 49:06
  SPEAKER_00: Always, always, always, always.
• 49:10
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god, though.
• 49:11
  SPEAKER_01: Can I just say?
• 49:12
  SPEAKER_01: So now they finally are bringing the husbands out, right?
• 49:15
  SPEAKER_01: And Andy's like going from husband to husband, and he is so messy.
• 49:19
  SPEAKER_01: He turns to Brian and he goes, Brian, how's the bunion biz?
• 49:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, I I cackled, like I cackled.
• 49:28
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Oh my god, I can't believe that that's what you said in your opening line to Brian.
• 49:34
  SPEAKER_00: How's the bunion biz?
• 49:35
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I honestly that's the only one that stuck out to me.
• 49:38
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't write any of the others down.
• 49:40
  SPEAKER_01: That's the only one that I wrote down, and I also wrote down Jared's jaw and Gary's dad bod.
• 49:48
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, Jared's jaw really was jawing.
• 49:52
  SPEAKER_00: I I I know, thank you.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: Amazing.
• 49:56
  SPEAKER_00: Sarah sent me a post of Jared from like his bachelor in paradise days, and his jaw looks exactly the same, and she was like, Yes, see, he didn't do anything.
• 50:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, it is the most jaw of a jaw I've ever seen in my life.
• 50:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's so prominent.
• 50:12
  SPEAKER_00: It is, it's crazy.
• 50:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's probably why he has to have scruff.
• 50:17
  SPEAKER_01: Where what's his family background?
• 50:19
  SPEAKER_01: I have no idea.
• 50:21
  SPEAKER_01: I don't know, but yeah, okay.
• 50:24
  SPEAKER_01: Then we do get some more elaboration from Gary, still confused, but I guess I don't need to know anymore.
• 50:31
  SPEAKER_01: So he clears up these persistent Jen rumors.
• 50:35
  SPEAKER_01: He said he met he and Jen met in seventh grade.
• 50:38
  SPEAKER_01: They remained close friends throughout high school, but they never slept together.
• 50:43
  SPEAKER_01: He met Joelen in high school, and he and Jo Ellen got together after high school, and he confirms that he got a fistful of boob in seventh grade.
• 50:51
  SPEAKER_00: And that's just how he put it.
• 50:52
  SPEAKER_00: Literally how he put it.
• 50:54
  SPEAKER_01: Another just way of like, why do we have to put things like this?
• 50:58
  SPEAKER_01: Like a fistful, could you say a handful?
• 51:01
  SPEAKER_01: Why is he like, why is he squeezing into a fist?
• 51:07
  SPEAKER_01: And also, I just still find it weird that Joelan thinks that that's the only thing.
• 51:13
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think they slept together.
• 51:15
  SPEAKER_01: I think that that's true, but I'm like, I just again don't really understand the context of this unless they were.
• 51:20
  SPEAKER_00: Maybe I'm telling you, maybe he'd like never touched a boob before and he didn't want to go on to like eighth grade without touching a boob, and Jen and him were BFFs, and so he got a fistful of boob.
• 51:31
  SPEAKER_01: That's that's squeezing too hard.
• 51:35
  SPEAKER_01: You shouldn't say fistful.
• 51:39
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 51:40
  SPEAKER_01: The other thing that was fun okay, no, there was more to this husband roundup.
• 51:44
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, the other thing that was funny is Steve was very upset with Boris and Rosie flirting at the mansion.
• 51:51
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 51:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, because they were like all good friends, and then he was he said that he wished that he'd been warned about the flirting with the butlers, or like had they been warned, warned about flirting with the butlers.
• 52:05
  SPEAKER_01: And he specifically called out Boris.
• 52:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and then they played like the little clip.
• 52:11
  SPEAKER_01: That was so funny.
• 52:12
  SPEAKER_01: It was like they're like in their little butler uniforms, and then they came out to be on the water slide.
• 52:19
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I don't know how you could not talk to them.
• 52:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that was hilarious.
• 52:23
  SPEAKER_00: But they were like, Oh, do you have a girlfriend?
• 52:25
  SPEAKER_00: How old are you?
• 52:26
  SPEAKER_00: Blah blah blah blah blah blah.
• 52:27
  SPEAKER_00: So I mean it was kind of funny.
• 52:29
  SPEAKER_00: Rich was like, I yeah, no, and then Bill was all like meh, it didn't bother me at all.
• 52:37
  SPEAKER_01: Because Kelsey's into old men.
• 52:39
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and I'm like, Okay, Bill, but you're not old, he's like the same age as her.
• 52:45
  SPEAKER_00: Right, I know.
• 52:46
  SPEAKER_00: Then they go into the whole Kelsey Bill thing and their relationship so awkward.
• 52:53
  SPEAKER_00: So basically, she says that he will propose whenever she's like ready and he'll drop.
• 52:59
  SPEAKER_00: She says, But then Bill says, you know, when she's ready, like I will propose.
• 53:05
  SPEAKER_00: He admits to being celibate for a year, which again does not make any sense because that's not what they said when they were in the coffee shop.
• 53:13
  SPEAKER_00: That's what I wrote down.
• 53:14
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, when they first showed them both at the coffee shop, she specifically said that he that like he was also out doing his own thing.
• 53:24
  SPEAKER_01: So she didn't feel bad that she wasn't faithful to Bill.
• 53:28
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, okay.
• 53:31
  SPEAKER_01: So what was it?
• 53:32
  SPEAKER_01: Was he celibate or was he out doing his own thing while you're still with your ex?
• 53:37
  SPEAKER_01: Or is she talking about she's already broken up with the ex and they were both doing their own thing?
• 53:42
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, but she's not transparent.
• 53:45
  SPEAKER_01: She's not very transparent about details.
• 53:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, and then she says, like, she didn't lie about anything, it was just a very complex relationship.
• 53:54
  SPEAKER_01: I do agree with that, and I mean it's not like she had she's given us a lot, like she's definitely given us a peek into a really like interesting dynamic, which is cool.
• 54:04
  SPEAKER_01: I just kind of feel like you know, you've already shown us all of this.
• 54:08
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why not just be 100% with this timeline?
• 54:12
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, you know, like it's like you've already revealed a lot.
• 54:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know if you're not gonna be able to do she lied to get on the show, and so she has to cover her tracks.
• 54:21
  SPEAKER_01: I still think they would have cast her.
• 54:24
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like they probably would have too, but I mean, it's better to have a bigger name behind you, too, though.
• 54:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 54:32
  SPEAKER_01: Anyway, it was interesting.
• 54:34
  SPEAKER_01: The com yeah, that comment about Bill being celibate was like so awkward.
• 54:37
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, oh god.
• 54:38
  SPEAKER_00: Even he felt awkward.
• 54:40
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'd be kind of upset with her if I knew that she said that on national TV, that she's like with some other guy this whole time and he's just like waiting for her to have sex.
• 54:51
  SPEAKER_01: Like, that's so embarrassing.
• 54:52
  SPEAKER_01: It is very embarrassing.
• 54:54
  SPEAKER_01: All right, then we go to Jerry and Liz.
• 54:58
  SPEAKER_00: Mm-hmm.
• 54:59
  SPEAKER_00: And they start talking about being great friends with Dino, and that Jerry uh does it knows that like they didn't have an affair.
• 55:11
  SPEAKER_00: But before we go into that part, Jerry's like, we're great friends with Dino, and he may be more famous than us.
• 55:18
  SPEAKER_00: And then Liz literally like puts her hand over her head, looks down, and goes, for all the wrong reasons.
• 55:25
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I'll say.
• 55:26
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, Well, well, yeah, but I mean, you're the ones that are friends with a guy looking at 88 years for on drug charges.
• 55:35
  SPEAKER_01: Also, every time I see an article about him for these charges, they keep referring to him as a real post-wives of Rhode Island star.
• 55:45
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, was he a star?
• 55:47
  SPEAKER_00: Or did they show him like one time?
• 55:49
  SPEAKER_00: They showed him once at the party.
• 55:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he's gonna be.
• 56:27
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, Jerry words.
• 56:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, Jerry was like, this whole thing was comical.
• 56:33
  SPEAKER_00: And Rula is like, seriously, Brian, like she because she swore up and down it didn't happen.
• 56:39
  SPEAKER_00: And Liz is like, just lumped it all together.
• 56:42
  SPEAKER_00: But Brian's like, I don't know.
• 56:43
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't know I was talking to Jerry.
• 56:45
  SPEAKER_00: You didn't know you were talking to Jerry about his wife dancing with someone else on Block Island.
• 56:50
  SPEAKER_01: She's such a fucking liar, but also I was annoyed with Liz at this part because she was just like, so she lumped them together, and then Jerry was like, Oh, it was, you know, my friend called me and put Brian on the phone.
• 57:06
  SPEAKER_01: And Liz was like, Yeah, that's all I wanted to clear up.
• 57:08
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, You seemed like pissed at Rule again.
• 57:12
  SPEAKER_01: Like, it just annoys me because when she brought this up, she didn't, it didn't seem like a small thing.
• 57:17
  SPEAKER_01: She brought it up as if this was like a bomb she was dropping on Rula after four years of like holding it in.
• 57:23
  SPEAKER_01: And then the guys come out and Jerry's just laughing about it.
• 57:26
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Yeah, my friend put Brian on the phone.
• 57:28
  SPEAKER_01: Liz was like, Oh, thanks for clearing that up.
• 57:29
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, You were legit like pissed at Rula over this.
• 57:32
  SPEAKER_01: One, like yelling at her, like so mad.
• 57:36
  SPEAKER_01: She didn't do anything.
• 57:37
  SPEAKER_01: Two, she didn't know about it, and like three, now suddenly, like, Liz is fine with it.
• 57:43
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm just like, again, Brian's just getting off scot-free here.
• 57:47
  SPEAKER_00: Jerry must balance Liz out like tremendously.
• 57:50
  SPEAKER_00: I just like that's my vibe.
• 57:52
  SPEAKER_01: I'm just frustrated with her because again, like, I do think that there's a lot of good there.
• 58:00
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I do think her relationship with Jerry is really nice.
• 58:03
  SPEAKER_01: I love the relationship she has with his daughters.
• 58:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think you can be a bad person and have that kind of relationship with like multiple stepchildren that you took on, and like obviously they have a great relationship.
• 58:15
  SPEAKER_01: So I'm just wish that she continued to show more of that side of her because she's just taken such a 180.
• 58:22
  SPEAKER_01: Like, she just seemed miserable.
• 58:24
  SPEAKER_01: This whole reunion was said hardly anything in part two.
• 58:30
  SPEAKER_01: She just seemed very unhappy all the time and like conspiracy theory.
• 58:35
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm just like, they're just started showing like a really bad side to her.
• 58:39
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, guess we'll see.
• 58:40
  SPEAKER_00: I'm hoping that there'll be, I know I was hoping for more redeeming on the reunion.
• 58:46
  SPEAKER_00: Do I think there was any redeeming?
• 58:48
  SPEAKER_00: Not really.
• 58:49
  SPEAKER_00: Do I hope that we see more of her so she can have her redemption next season?
• 58:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
• 58:55
  SPEAKER_01: I do too.
• 58:56
  SPEAKER_01: I hope that she has a I hope she stays, although I'm suspicious that she's not.
• 59:01
  SPEAKER_01: But I hope she stays and does get a redemption arc.
• 59:04
  SPEAKER_01: And I mean, it would be really interesting to find out more about this Dino situation.
• 59:08
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 59:09
  SPEAKER_00: Keep her on just so I can find out more about Dino, but if I need to, I can just watch the news.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 59:15
  SPEAKER_00: So but anywho.
• 59:18
  SPEAKER_01: Oh my god.
• 59:19
  SPEAKER_01: Billy and Alicia.
• 59:20
  SPEAKER_01: Now we get a deep dive into this relationship where it seems as okay, I will say that Billy has gotten a lot of hate online that I think is very unfair.
• 59:33
  SPEAKER_01: Like I've even seen quotes so far that go so far as to say that he financially abuses Alicia.
• 59:39
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, I do this for a living, and this is my passion in life.
• 59:44
  SPEAKER_01: And after listening to both sides of this, Alicia needs to meet him halfway with learning this stuff.
• 59:55
  SPEAKER_01: Because this is literally like ignorance by choice.
• 59:59
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't think she's incapable of learning this.
• 1:00:03
  SPEAKER_01: I think that it's like one of those things where if you've never had any exposure to it, like you don't even know what questions to ask.
• 1:00:10
  SPEAKER_01: And a lot of this stuff could just be cleared up if she would just go to these meetings or whatever and like listen to the info.
• 1:00:20
  SPEAKER_00: She even says that he wished he like approached the subject of a pre-nop differently with Alicia, and he really wasn't trying to be a jerk.
• 1:00:29
  SPEAKER_00: But now that he's like, now that it's been however many years, and he knows that she feels this way, that yeah, it could have been totally different.
• 1:00:38
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean, hindsight is 2020, and the more you grow and learn about someone, you do realize like what can change and what needs to be done.
• 1:00:47
  SPEAKER_00: Then I will admit, like, it was funny because I was watching this bit with Slater today, and he did say he was like, Sometimes I feel like that's what I do because I'll be like, I just want to know the good stuff about the money.
• 1:01:00
  SPEAKER_00: Like, don't tell me like that we need four new tires or something, and I don't want to hear the number about the tires, just tell me we can afford it type of thing.
• 1:01:09
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 1:01:10
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, That's how Alicia seems, but like on a whole different level, where I'm like, Okay, we need to have the meeting where I need to know where we stand financially because I don't do all the money, right?
• 1:01:22
  SPEAKER_00: And and I feel like Billy gets a lot of flack because that one thing, and I did see it on Instagram, that thing that she posted that was like asking for a friend about like if you give everyone the money, like if you give them the money, but and she has to ask.
• 1:01:38
  SPEAKER_00: But it's explained though.
• 1:01:41
  SPEAKER_01: He explained that the reason why somebody, like whoever it is, that executive assistant or whatever that he has is managing she he legitimately does have a separate person managing her money, like she knows that now.
• 1:01:57
  SPEAKER_01: I don't think she understood that before, but she knows that now, the Sarah woman.
• 1:02:01
  SPEAKER_01: And he was trying to say that they were trying to make sure that Alicia wasn't gonna screw herself over on taxes, so and she's not gonna take the steps to make sure that her paychecks are getting the proper amount of taxes taken out of them.
• 1:02:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:02:21
  SPEAKER_01: So, and this has happened to a lot of people on reality TV.
• 1:02:24
  SPEAKER_01: Like you hear it about the teen momstars all the time.
• 1:02:26
  SPEAKER_01: Like you'll hear that like one of them's behind on like 400 grand of taxes, and you're like, Well, how does that happen?
• 1:02:31
  SPEAKER_01: It happens because you're like you're not looking at your like you're just taking your full check, basically.
• 1:02:37
  SPEAKER_00: So I think that that's what he was referring to.
• 1:02:40
  SPEAKER_00: Um she is making money on the cameos plus per episode, plus she set the merch.
• 1:02:45
  SPEAKER_00: Now she's never 50%.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:02:48
  SPEAKER_01: And she's never made this much this type of money before.
• 1:02:51
  SPEAKER_01: And so she probably, if left to her own devices, probably would just like put it into a bank account.
• 1:02:57
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like he knows that you can't do that.
• 1:03:00
  SPEAKER_01: So I do think like when I first saw that post, I was like, ooh, ouch.
• 1:03:04
  SPEAKER_01: But then after this explanation, I was like, okay, that makes a lot of sense because she doesn't know that stuff, nor does she want to, she doesn't want to know it.
• 1:03:13
  SPEAKER_01: Um but then it bothers her when she feels like she has to still ask for her money.
• 1:03:19
  SPEAKER_01: So like they have to, she has to try to like meet him halfway.
• 1:03:23
  SPEAKER_01: And then the prenup thing was I also appreciate how he explained that because it's like we forget too that that was like what eight, nine years ago, and so that was at the beginning of their relationship, yeah.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:03:38
  SPEAKER_01: And so, yeah, that's like a totally different story, like asking, like having that outlook when you've only been with somebody for like a year, say, versus when you've been with somebody now for like 10 years.
• 1:03:50
  SPEAKER_01: Like that's totally different.
• 1:03:51
  SPEAKER_01: And like he said, like this conversation happened like eight or nine years ago, and he also explained that they purposely put together a one-sided prenup and then sent it to Alicia's lawyers because she did have her own lawyers, and they were supposed to come back with all of Alicia's requests, which they did.
• 1:04:07
  SPEAKER_01: Alicia totally left out that part, she's just mad that he asked for a prenup.
• 1:04:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and they went back, but wasn't she?
• 1:04:14
  SPEAKER_00: Didn't he even say she didn't even like make that many like different things?
• 1:04:18
  SPEAKER_00: Like she was just like she didn't like it because it felt too business like, yes, so like she just has a different outlook.
• 1:04:26
  SPEAKER_01: She's just thinking, he's thinking of everything very logically, and she's thinking with her heart.
• 1:04:31
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, You want to marry me?
• 1:04:32
  SPEAKER_01: Like, why are you even asking me for this?
• 1:04:34
  SPEAKER_01: You know, like even though she's not planning to take advantage of him, like you can tell she's not planning to take advantage of him because of her reaction to pizza mama.
• 1:04:42
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, Oh Billy, I feel bad that you're giving me 50%.
• 1:04:46
  SPEAKER_01: Like, she's clearly not planning to like drain him for everything if they didn't work out.
• 1:04:53
  SPEAKER_01: I think she just I think just the gesture is what she wants from him, you know.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:04:58
  SPEAKER_01: So anyway, that was really an enlightening conversation because I do feel like the internet has been a little unfair to Billy.
• 1:05:05
  SPEAKER_00: I agree.
• 1:05:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I think when you're only getting one half of the story too, and it's just like a few clips here and there, it's all been edited.
• 1:05:12
  SPEAKER_00: She can be mad.
• 1:05:14
  SPEAKER_00: You know what I mean?
• 1:05:15
  SPEAKER_00: But yeah, I feel like they're good.
• 1:05:17
  SPEAKER_00: And why if she thought she's just like you said, she thinks very like with her heart, very like she's not logical.
• 1:05:24
  SPEAKER_00: She's like, we're obviously team Alicia and we want the best for her, like she is our favorite, but at the same time, okay, he's working on it, and he was like, I'm giving you pizza mama.
• 1:05:33
  SPEAKER_00: All I need you to do, giving you parts of pizza mama, all I need you to do is pick up Selena from dance class like one or two times a week.
• 1:05:41
  SPEAKER_01: I know, I know.
• 1:05:42
  SPEAKER_01: And she's like trying to get out of it.
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_00: Can my mom do it?
• 1:05:45
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, sure, just like so I don't have to do it every day.
• 1:05:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:05:50
  SPEAKER_00: So yeah.
• 1:05:51
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's a good guy.
• 1:05:52
  SPEAKER_01: I honestly don't think she would be with him if he wasn't, because she's already like, she's already run out on several relationships.
• 1:06:00
  SPEAKER_01: That she wasn't happy in.
• 1:06:01
  SPEAKER_01: So if she wasn't real happy with him, she wouldn't still be with him.
• 1:06:04
  SPEAKER_00: And Andy even makes the point to say she's probably about to make some of the most money that she's ever made.
• 1:06:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:06:09
  SPEAKER_00: Because she's gonna rake it in after this.
• 1:06:11
  SPEAKER_00: And like you said, there the next season, it's gonna skyrocket how much she makes forever.
• 1:06:17
  SPEAKER_01: I think he's just trying to make sure that she's taking all the proper steps and she just doesn't understand what the what the steps are.
• 1:06:24
  SPEAKER_01: She should just talk to Sarah.
• 1:06:25
  SPEAKER_01: Just meet with Sarah.
• 1:06:27
  SPEAKER_00: Have the meeting meeting with Sarah.
• 1:06:28
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I don't know.
• 1:06:29
  SPEAKER_00: Did you catch the Teresa Judece joke though?
• 1:06:33
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's so true, but Billy is not sketchy.
• 1:06:37
  SPEAKER_01: He's no, I don't think it's a good one.
• 1:06:39
  SPEAKER_00: No, and it was like three pages, not even.
• 1:06:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I mean it was signed on.
• 1:06:43
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sure it's fine.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:45
  SPEAKER_00: Plus, they'd already had that little handwritten one that they did when she made her presentation.
• 1:06:50
  SPEAKER_01: I just thought it was so cute how he gave her 50%.
• 1:06:52
  SPEAKER_01: She's like, Oh Billy, now I feel so bad.
• 1:06:54
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, What are you doing?
• 1:06:56
  SPEAKER_01: It's like your pet project.
• 1:06:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:06:59
  SPEAKER_01: I hope they stay together forever.
• 1:07:01
  SPEAKER_00: Me too.
• 1:07:02
  SPEAKER_00: I like them.
• 1:07:03
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, oh god.
• 1:07:04
  SPEAKER_01: Now we jump to Brian.
• 1:07:07
  SPEAKER_01: He's worse.
• 1:07:09
  SPEAKER_01: He is the worst.
• 1:07:10
  SPEAKER_00: And then I like how Andy straight up goes, Brian, do you really think it was a good idea to go on a reality show during an affair?
• 1:07:21
  SPEAKER_00: Like, and he's like, I can't comment on it.
• 1:07:25
  SPEAKER_00: What do you mean you can't comment?
• 1:07:28
  SPEAKER_01: Unfortunately, due to the non-disclosure agreement with this individual, I'm not gonna be able to talk about it.
• 1:07:33
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, did you really think you were gonna get through the reunion with just that?
• 1:07:37
  SPEAKER_00: Why didn't he just say you didn't go to the reunion?
• 1:07:40
  SPEAKER_01: Guess what?
• 1:07:41
  SPEAKER_01: Gary was mumbling over on the other side of the room.
• 1:07:43
  SPEAKER_01: He's like, Why are you even here if you can't say anything?
• 1:07:45
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, I missed that.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:07:47
  SPEAKER_01: I Gary was like standing for Joellen the whole time, and I loved it.
• 1:07:52
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, yeah, he was.
• 1:07:54
  SPEAKER_00: He was like, Yeah.
• 1:07:55
  SPEAKER_00: Rula is like, I can talk about it since he can't.
• 1:08:00
  SPEAKER_00: And I was like, This is so awkward.
• 1:08:02
  SPEAKER_00: And he opened his business, he made her a part owner, the mistress, and she was a nurse practitioner at the office.
• 1:08:09
  SPEAKER_00: How do you oh how are you a podiatrist and you're giving half of your thing to a nurse practitioner?
• 1:08:14
  SPEAKER_01: I was so confused by that whole explanation, and I was hoping you would explain it with your own legal background because I was like, what the fuck is he talking about?
• 1:08:23
  SPEAKER_01: Like, I have no idea.
• 1:08:24
  SPEAKER_00: It was like above my head.
• 1:08:26
  SPEAKER_00: I didn't understand because I don't think it made any sense.
• 1:08:29
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, Rula said that she knew about this at the time, but apparently this was before she knew about the affair.
• 1:08:36
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, Yeah, like I guess they had known he'd known her for a while or something.
• 1:08:43
  SPEAKER_01: Why would you give her why would you give her half your business though?
• 1:08:47
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't make any sense to give her half the business.
• 1:08:50
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, and then she why do you need her as a partner?
• 1:08:53
  SPEAKER_00: Did she make an investment?
• 1:08:55
  SPEAKER_00: Did she not make an it like right?
• 1:08:58
  SPEAKER_01: And then so yeah, so he says that, and then regarding the lawsuit related to the business, I'm so confused.
• 1:09:06
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's the lawsuit?
• 1:09:08
  SPEAKER_00: So I didn't think there was a lawsuit regarding the business.
• 1:09:11
  SPEAKER_00: I knew that there was one about the non-disclosure agreement, but maybe that had to do they to manage to tie it into the business.
• 1:09:18
  SPEAKER_01: That's what he was trying to say, and I don't understand what like what that meant.
• 1:09:24
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, I thought that when I heard about the non-disclosure agreement, I thought that it was related to his non-disclosure agreement with her about talking about the affair.
• 1:09:34
  SPEAKER_01: But he was very much like this non-disclosure agreement is related to the business, I think.
• 1:09:41
  SPEAKER_00: That's how I was interpreting it.
• 1:09:43
  SPEAKER_00: It had to do with the affair, and like they weren't supposed to speak about it, and then she went on Instagram, and then but then he was gonna sue her for defamation, and then she countersued for defamation.
• 1:09:56
  SPEAKER_00: I went and tried to look this case up too, but the only thing it really says is like this motion was filed, this motion was filed, and like when the case started, in order to get the court docs, I'd have to deep dive and like try and pay for them.
• 1:10:09
  SPEAKER_00: But it's I don't even know if those ones would be public.
• 1:10:12
  SPEAKER_00: In Rhode Island, divorce and divorce papers are private, so I don't know if it's the same as something about a non-disclosure agreement.
• 1:10:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because then why would you be able to see that?
• 1:10:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, just very convoluted, which makes me feel like he's lying about stuff.
• 1:10:28
  SPEAKER_01: And then they talk about so then Andy brings up the polo match theories from online.
• 1:10:34
  SPEAKER_00: I was really confused about this part too.
• 1:10:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, I can break it down.
• 1:10:39
  SPEAKER_00: Okay, good, because I was completely lost and I ran around a couple times, and so I don't know.
• 1:10:45
  SPEAKER_01: So the polo match, if everybody recalls, is that everybody was like about to get on the party bus to go to Newport Polo grounds, and very abruptly Brian's like, we have to leave, my mother's sick.
• 1:10:58
  SPEAKER_01: He and Rula left, and everybody had thought, based on what they were saying, was that Brian's mother was in the hospital and they were heading straight to the hospital, and then they came back.
• 1:11:08
  SPEAKER_01: So, as we know, at then at when they came back to the match, Jo Ellen like services these pictures that apparently she had just gotten from the mistress in Brian's car, like from apparently that day.
• 1:11:20
  SPEAKER_01: So the rumors online are that Brian's mother was not really sick, and that he was actually leaving to go meet up with the mistress and calm her down because she was threatening to show up at the match.
• 1:11:36
  SPEAKER_01: Now, Brian and Rula are now aligned on this bullshit story.
• 1:11:41
  SPEAKER_01: So he his response to this is that his mother was sick, that his parents were watching the kids at the parents' house, and they never said they were going to the hospital.
• 1:11:56
  SPEAKER_01: No, they're saying they never said that, they just went straight to the parents' house.
• 1:12:00
  SPEAKER_01: The reason why he dropped Rula off at their house first was because they didn't want the kids to see Rula because then they would want her to stay and not go back to the polo grounds because the whole time they were planning to go back to the polo grounds.
• 1:12:14
  SPEAKER_01: Because remember, they were separated.
• 1:12:16
  SPEAKER_01: So Brian's like, oh, the reason why why Rula didn't come with me to my parents' house is because the kids were there.
• 1:12:22
  SPEAKER_01: And if the kids saw her, they wouldn't want her to leave again and they would start crying.
• 1:12:26
  SPEAKER_01: So that's why I went alone.
• 1:12:28
  SPEAKER_01: And then Jo Ellen chimes in.
• 1:12:31
  SPEAKER_01: So like they were separated, and so the theory is like he wasn't really going to visit his parents, that he was visiting the mistress.
• 1:12:37
  SPEAKER_01: Blah blah blah.
• 1:12:38
  SPEAKER_01: She was in the car, that's how she got the picture in the red interior.
• 1:12:42
  SPEAKER_01: Then Jo Ellen just randomly chimes in and goes, I know the mistresses stays at your parents' house sometimes, doesn't she?
• 1:12:50
  SPEAKER_01: Don't you have her over your parents' house all the time where she left her dirty underwear in the bed?
• 1:12:55
  SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, Who told you this?
• 1:12:57
  SPEAKER_00: That okay, that part blew my mind.
• 1:13:00
  SPEAKER_00: And so the parents know about the mistress, and okay, so what you did say is what I got, but I just didn't think it made any sense.
• 1:13:08
  SPEAKER_01: Because it's absurd.
• 1:13:10
  unknown: Okay.
• 1:13:11
  SPEAKER_01: It's because it's not true and it's absurd.
• 1:13:14
  SPEAKER_01: Anytime a story and an uh explanation sounds super convoluted and confusing, it's because the person is lying.
• 1:13:22
  SPEAKER_00: Then he said that he after going home, he like had to fix his hair, and that's why he took his wedding ring off.
• 1:13:31
  SPEAKER_01: That part I I couldn't explain that to you.
• 1:13:33
  SPEAKER_01: That made no fucking sense.
• 1:13:34
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, son's hair, so he put his wedding ring in his pocket, and that's why he wasn't wearing it.
• 1:13:40
  SPEAKER_00: But then they're like, But didn't you say you left in the car because you used hand sanitizer?
• 1:13:45
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, he had a different story that day of why he wasn't wearing it.
• 1:13:49
  SPEAKER_01: And it's like, okay, just going back to the underwear, like Joelan's like, I have text to prove it.
• 1:13:56
  SPEAKER_01: Like, she because Brian was like, What are you talking about?
• 1:13:58
  SPEAKER_01: And Joelan's like, Oh, I have text to prove it.
• 1:14:00
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, Did Brian's dad send her texts about the mistress's underwear?
• 1:14:04
  SPEAKER_01: Like, where is she?
• 1:14:05
  SPEAKER_00: The only thing I can think of is that like the mistress and Joelan are like actually really good friends, and she just hates Rula.
• 1:14:12
  SPEAKER_00: Like I said, I told you my theory about like how the mistress wants him to divorce Rula.
• 1:14:18
  SPEAKER_00: And so he's being really crappy at like covering things up because he wants Rula to initiate it.
• 1:14:26
  SPEAKER_00: So then the only thing I can think of is that she's like really good friends with Joelin, and so she knows Joelan is gonna go to Rula with all this stuff, like all this evidence, and maybe she like took a picture of her dirty underwear, like in the bed, and she was like, Oh, look, I just saw Brian or something.
• 1:14:46
  SPEAKER_01: I guess if I were gonna do that, I would just take a picture of just clean underwear in the bed.
• 1:14:51
  SPEAKER_00: Well, maybe she just said they were dirty.
• 1:14:53
  SPEAKER_01: And I just weren't never, I mean, I would never if I that would never ever happen.
• 1:15:00
  SPEAKER_01: But if in a different universe I ever left behind soiled underwear, I would never ever admit to that ever.
• 1:15:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what is happening?
• 1:15:14
  SPEAKER_01: Why would you admit to that?
• 1:15:15
  SPEAKER_01: I'd be like, those are not mine.
• 1:15:18
  SPEAKER_00: No, and then somehow Joelyn has proof of how much the Chanel bag costs and how much.
• 1:15:26
  SPEAKER_00: No, you're missing.
• 1:15:27
  SPEAKER_00: Wait, what am I missing?
• 1:15:29
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, Joelan says that Brian says that Rula's butt smelled like garlic.
• 1:15:35
  SPEAKER_00: Is this also in a text?
• 1:15:37
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea, but then my favorite part of this was Jared just going, I wish my ass smelled like garlic.
• 1:15:46
  SPEAKER_01: I so many thoughts.
• 1:15:49
  SPEAKER_01: I I don't know.
• 1:15:50
  SPEAKER_01: I don't even.
• 1:15:51
  SPEAKER_00: I just And then I'm like, who is telling anyone that anyone's butt smells like anything, whether you like the presence or not?
• 1:16:02
  SPEAKER_01: I thought the best part of this where I legitimately like cackled again was when Alicia started laughing, and Rula just looks at Alicia and goes, Alicia, that's really not funny.
• 1:16:13
  SPEAKER_01: And Alicia just like couldn't stop laughing.
• 1:16:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like talk to your husband who's the one saying these things.
• 1:16:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right?
• 1:16:23
  SPEAKER_00: If I if someone just told me that butt smelled like garlic, and he was sitting right behind me.
• 1:16:32
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, what the fuck?
• 1:16:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'd be like, are you what why?
• 1:16:40
  SPEAKER_00: I think like at the very least, Rula could could have given Brian a dirty look.
• 1:16:45
  SPEAKER_00: I'm sorry, but like what does his butt smell like?
• 1:16:49
  SPEAKER_00: I don't want to know.
• 1:16:50
  SPEAKER_00: That's one thing I think I'm good with.
• 1:16:53
  SPEAKER_01: It's just like I don't understand why that was even I think that I wouldn't have brought I wouldn't have said that if I was Joe Allen.
• 1:17:00
  SPEAKER_01: That was a lot.
• 1:17:01
  SPEAKER_00: Do you really think Joe Allen's cup during the break was filled with hot water, or do you think it was filled with like tequila?
• 1:17:06
  SPEAKER_01: Because I did find it odd that she was just drinking a cup of hot water.
• 1:17:11
  SPEAKER_01: Like, who does that without a tea without tea in it?
• 1:17:14
  SPEAKER_00: I have no idea.
• 1:17:16
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know.
• 1:17:17
  SPEAKER_00: But anyway, on from the butts.
• 1:17:20
  SPEAKER_00: We then find out that somehow Joellen has Brian's Chanel shopping records.
• 1:17:29
  SPEAKER_01: Like a not this is not just a receipt, this is like a full like record of the purchase.
• 1:17:35
  SPEAKER_00: Knows the style number, knows how much it costs, and knows that it was on his account.
• 1:17:41
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, his client number.
• 1:17:43
  SPEAKER_01: How?
• 1:17:45
  SPEAKER_01: She's gotta know somebody that works at the store.
• 1:17:48
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like if Rula was to find out who Joe Allen's friend is, that they're absolutely like fucked.
• 1:17:54
  SPEAKER_00: And also getting a job at a store like that is not easy because you make a shit ton of money on commission.
• 1:18:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 1:18:01
  SPEAKER_00: So and I know that I know in Natick, this was also 15 years ago.
• 1:18:06
  SPEAKER_00: In NADIC, Louis Vuitton started you off at$20 an hour plus commission.
• 1:18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Think about that 15 years ago on retail.
• 1:18:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, wasn't too bad.
• 1:18:15
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's like I thought it's crazy that somebody actually like sent her that info because that was a lot of detail.
• 1:18:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, and Rula obviously had no idea about the bag.
• 1:18:25
  SPEAKER_01: She had no idea about the bag, and she said that the that bag wasn't for her.
• 1:18:29
  SPEAKER_01: So he's just a lot, he had no explanation for it.
• 1:18:32
  SPEAKER_01: He just kind of sat there, and then he was like, the only Chanel bag I've ever bought is for my wife.
• 1:18:37
  SPEAKER_01: And Rula straight up was like, That bag's not for me.
• 1:18:40
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like it was for your mistress, and it was from July of 2025, which was during filming.
• 1:18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 1:18:48
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 1:18:48
  SPEAKER_01: So I was just gonna say, I'm sure this is part of his whole like, well, I was just trying to like shut her up type of thing.
• 1:18:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let me bribe her to be quiet or something.
• 1:18:58
  SPEAKER_00: And then Gary drops a bomb that he was at a dinner with a client or something, and Brian comes up to him to say hi, and or no, she comes up to Gary and introduces Brian as her boyfriend.
• 1:19:18
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and Brian's just like, no, that didn't happen.
• 1:19:21
  SPEAKER_01: And Gary was like, Are you kidding me?
• 1:19:24
  SPEAKER_01: It absolutely did happen.
• 1:19:25
  SPEAKER_01: No one believes you, Brian.
• 1:19:27
  SPEAKER_01: He has zero credibility.
• 1:19:29
  SPEAKER_01: Then Rula, and the whole reason why the mistress went up to him is because they actually know her.
• 1:19:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like the kids went to preschool together.
• 1:19:38
  SPEAKER_00: So it makes sense, and that's something Jo Allen's already said.
• 1:19:42
  SPEAKER_00: And then Rula asks Brian when he actually got divorced, if it was 2010 or 2012, and or 2010 or 2016, he says 2012.
• 1:19:53
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so he's got a completely different year.
• 1:19:55
  SPEAKER_01: So she thinks it's 2010, he says 2012, and the documents say 2016.
• 1:20:01
  SPEAKER_01: He's just such a fucking liar.
• 1:20:03
  SPEAKER_00: He is, and then uh Joel's like, I am not a liar.
• 1:20:08
  SPEAKER_00: This is why I want to prove that I'm not a liar, and Gary goes like full on, like backing it up, and he was like, All you had to admit was like, Yes, I totally get it, and just stop it there.
• 1:20:18
  SPEAKER_00: Instead, he was like, You just want to call my wife like a liar, right?
• 1:20:22
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, It has to end, and um, even Andy asks Rula, like, Do you really think it was a good idea to audition and be on this show?
• 1:20:33
  SPEAKER_00: Right when you have all this going on, and she said he thought it was over, but according to Brian, it didn't end until October.
• 1:20:44
  SPEAKER_01: Right, which was news to Rula.
• 1:20:47
  SPEAKER_01: She was acting like it wasn't news to her, but then when they showed her like little chat with Rosie during the break, like it was news to her.
• 1:20:55
  SPEAKER_01: I think like I just god, I hated him so much in the part where Rosie was like trying to coach Rula and was like, Everybody knows that you weren't aware of the timeline.
• 1:21:06
  SPEAKER_01: Everybody can tell that he was lying to you and that you didn't know that it was still going on.
• 1:21:11
  SPEAKER_01: Joelen keeps bringing this up because she's being portrayed as a liar when she was trying to show you this information, and she'll stop if Brian will just come out and confirm that the affair was still going on, so that, and stop calling Joellen a liar.
• 1:21:28
  SPEAKER_01: And like Andy says, Okay, Brian, like, what do you basically like?
• 1:21:35
  SPEAKER_01: What do you have to say about that?
• 1:21:36
  SPEAKER_01: Like, and Brian just goes, Unfortunately, due to the non-disclosure agreement, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
• 1:21:42
  SPEAKER_01: I'm like, you're such a fucking coward.
• 1:21:44
  SPEAKER_00: All he has to do is say, This is when it and like, and he just couldn't even get it out.
• 1:21:50
  SPEAKER_00: It was so fucking annoying.
• 1:21:53
  SPEAKER_01: And then, like, Rosie during the commercial break, when she asked Rula, like, did you know that it ended in October?
• 1:22:00
  SPEAKER_01: And Rula said, No, Rosie's like, it kind of sounds like it was going on at Christmas.
• 1:22:04
  SPEAKER_01: And Rula goes, Yeah, I'll have to find out.
• 1:22:06
  SPEAKER_01: So it's like, even the October date is a lie.
• 1:22:09
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:22:10
  SPEAKER_01: It's like, just fucking tell the truth at the moment.
• 1:22:13
  SPEAKER_01: Why are you continuing on with further lies?
• 1:22:15
  SPEAKER_01: It's just just tell the truth.
• 1:22:16
  SPEAKER_01: What difference is it really so much better that it was October and not December?
• 1:22:19
  SPEAKER_01: Like, just fucking tell her.
• 1:22:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, right.
• 1:22:22
  SPEAKER_00: Exact.
• 1:22:22
  SPEAKER_00: And then, okay, so this is what doesn't make any sense.
• 1:22:26
  SPEAKER_00: Brian was arrested in October.
• 1:22:29
  SPEAKER_00: It was dismissed in 2020 in December of 2025.
• 1:22:35
  SPEAKER_00: So then he went the whole month of November because he goes on that whole thing with like, oh my god, I was arrested and I had a no-contact order and I couldn't speak to her for four weeks, and it really made me miss her and realize how much I loved her.
• 1:22:49
  SPEAKER_01: Jared made like the craziest face when he said that, which that was so messed up.
• 1:22:53
  SPEAKER_01: That was an abuse, that was like your that's an emotionally abused.
• 1:22:57
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and then he says he can't talk about this case either.
• 1:23:00
  SPEAKER_01: Yes, because it was dismissed.
• 1:23:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's bullshit.
• 1:23:03
  SPEAKER_01: He says he can't talk about it because it was dismissed.
• 1:23:05
  SPEAKER_01: It's like that's absolutely untrue.
• 1:23:09
  SPEAKER_00: And he knows his way around a couple of court cases, okay?
• 1:23:11
  SPEAKER_00: He's had quite a few people with them come through.
• 1:23:14
  SPEAKER_01: It's just so absurd.
• 1:23:16
  SPEAKER_01: It's like no one, that's not a thing.
• 1:23:18
  SPEAKER_01: A case that's dismissed, you obviously can talk about that.
• 1:23:22
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's so dub.
• 1:23:24
  SPEAKER_00: And he was like, Oh, I couldn't talk to her.
• 1:23:25
  SPEAKER_00: So that means all through November he couldn't speak to her about it.
• 1:23:31
  SPEAKER_01: And he's awful, he's just awful.
• 1:23:35
  SPEAKER_01: Mm-hmm.
• 1:23:36
  SPEAKER_01: I do love Ashley's closing remarks because she hasn't really said much during the whole reunion, and then she ends it with just like a slew of insults about Brian that she's saying like one on one rula.
• 1:23:48
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, damn.
• 1:23:49
  SPEAKER_00: You need to say them because you'll probably write them down better.
• 1:23:52
  SPEAKER_01: But she says she just turns to Rula, like right in front of Brian, when he's like sitting right there, and she says, You know that you're better than him, right?
• 1:24:01
  SPEAKER_01: And Rula was like, Yeah, and Brian just like sort of makes a face, and then when the guys are getting up, she says that she really wanted to call Brian a slam pig, and then she's and then he's really something.
• 1:24:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yep.
• 1:24:16
  SPEAKER_01: This was so funny because you don't really hear a lot of insults from Ashley.
• 1:24:21
  SPEAKER_00: And like Ashley's like, I was like, oh, you go girl.
• 1:24:24
  SPEAKER_00: Like when she did say that, I was really pumped for, and then Rosie's like, you know, good for you for sticking and out, but like it's hard to support that.
• 1:24:34
  SPEAKER_00: I liked how Rosie and Ashley were both like really trying to be on Rula's side at this time, at like the end of the episode, and Rosie coaching her through everything, and then to have Ashley say that she's like, You're better than him.
• 1:24:49
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like she needs that positive reinforcement because the way that Joel Allen was going about it, when it even if she started with good intentions, it wasn't how someone wants to hear it.
• 1:25:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right, right.
• 1:25:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:25:02
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I can see that.
• 1:25:04
  SPEAKER_01: Um, I still just feel like Rula was pretty determined to believe Brian because she wasn't planning to leave him.
• 1:25:13
  SPEAKER_01: So I don't think it would have made much difference, honestly.
• 1:25:16
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, that's true.
• 1:25:17
  SPEAKER_00: I think the part though, after the guys go back and they're backstage, it really bugged me that Rich was like, oh, you want him to fix it.
• 1:25:25
  SPEAKER_00: Really make shows that you love her.
• 1:25:27
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, Rich, shut up.
• 1:25:29
  SPEAKER_01: I know.
• 1:25:30
  SPEAKER_00: Even like when I like you, Rich, don't drop down a peg.
• 1:25:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I know.
• 1:25:36
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, like don't try to make him feel better.
• 1:25:38
  SPEAKER_01: He's awful.
• 1:25:38
  SPEAKER_01: And like, even when Andy was talking about the tracker, Rich is like, well, Rosie and I like track each other's location, and everybody was like, That's not the same thing.
• 1:25:47
  SPEAKER_00: No, no, this is a secret tracker.
• 1:25:52
  SPEAKER_00: That it was, and then Jared's like, you have to actually tell her everything, Brian's like, Yeah, I will.
• 1:25:56
  SPEAKER_00: And I have a feeling Jared was like, You probably won't, but we'll like, I know there's been like some really bad communication, and he's an idiot and she's crazy.
• 1:26:05
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm like, You're an idiot, and you're crazy.
• 1:26:09
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 1:26:10
  SPEAKER_00: But then we cut to their final thoughts, and they were all very short and sweet.
• 1:26:14
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that's not true.
• 1:26:16
  SPEAKER_01: I was so shocked because I didn't realize that they weren't doing a part three.
• 1:26:19
  SPEAKER_01: I was like, Oh, he's bringing the champagne out.
• 1:26:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I read at some point, and I was like, Oh, I was fully expecting three parts.
• 1:26:27
  SPEAKER_00: I thought what I Googled said three parts.
• 1:26:29
  SPEAKER_01: There was definitely like a lot of material where they could have done three parts.
• 1:26:34
  SPEAKER_00: I agree.
• 1:26:35
  SPEAKER_00: Uh, you know what though, it makes sense because like you remember how I was telling you how I was trying to get tickets into the Foxwoods watch party?
• 1:26:42
  SPEAKER_00: It makes sense because it was for last night, so we called it a wrap-up party, and I guess I just didn't put two and two together.
• 1:26:50
  SPEAKER_00: But I love how all the people had like these really all the girls had like a really short sentence on something that they want to do like differently next season, and Alicia's was so out of the left field compared to me on her.
• 1:27:03
  SPEAKER_01: It's like I wish I wore more makeup and covered up my scar.
• 1:27:06
  SPEAKER_01: I don't, I mean, I don't think Alicia has anything to regret on this season.
• 1:27:11
  SPEAKER_01: She had a great season.
• 1:27:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I agree.
• 1:27:13
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I don't think Ashley did, I don't think Ashley had anything to regret either this season.
• 1:27:19
  SPEAKER_01: I think they were both pretty clean.
• 1:27:21
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, even she said that she just wishes she was like more chatty, yeah, and initiated more fun, which makes sense.
• 1:27:28
  SPEAKER_00: And Rosie and Kelsey's felt like they were almost like forced out of the two of them on like wanting to like make their relationship better and build it off the show.
• 1:27:38
  SPEAKER_00: I sort of like want them to be friends next season.
• 1:27:41
  SPEAKER_00: I know, right?
• 1:27:42
  SPEAKER_00: Wouldn't that be a turnaround?
• 1:27:44
  SPEAKER_00: I think that they could be friends.
• 1:27:46
  SPEAKER_00: I feel like they could.
• 1:27:48
  SPEAKER_00: I like Rosie.
• 1:27:49
  SPEAKER_01: They're very close in age, and I do like, I don't know.
• 1:27:53
  SPEAKER_01: When they both said that, I was like, Oh, I kind of wish that they do try to be friends.
• 1:27:56
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 1:27:57
  SPEAKER_00: And then Rula was it wishes that she shut down shut things down sooner.
• 1:28:02
  SPEAKER_00: I don't know, you gotta be on the show to do that.
• 1:28:05
  SPEAKER_00: And then um, Joelyn wanted to change how she went towards Rula and more privately and be a better mediator.
• 1:28:13
  SPEAKER_00: And Liz said, control, react, and police less.
• 1:28:17
  SPEAKER_00: And care less.
• 1:28:19
  SPEAKER_00: Yes, and care less, which okay.
• 1:28:22
  SPEAKER_01: And then they come back to-she regretted that lunch with Jo Ellen, where she sounded insane.
• 1:28:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, she did.
• 1:28:33
  SPEAKER_00: The last few episodes were not that great for Liz.
• 1:28:36
  SPEAKER_01: She's not sorry.
• 1:28:37
  SPEAKER_01: No.
• 1:28:38
  SPEAKER_01: Like the fact that she didn't bring any of that up, I was like, ooh.
• 1:28:42
  SPEAKER_00: I know.
• 1:28:42
  SPEAKER_00: I'm like, I kind of want to hear more, but it is what it is.
• 1:28:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then they get dirty Shirley's.
• 1:28:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 1:28:48
  SPEAKER_00: Uh Andy has, excuse me, Andy has Alicia make the toast, and she's like, she's like, I'm proud of us girls, and I'm proud of the year that we've had.
• 1:28:56
  SPEAKER_00: And it was short and sweet and cute.
• 1:28:58
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, and Liz gives Andy his own mask, but he doesn't have a facade to shed.
• 1:29:03
  SPEAKER_00: It was like a I like the ending.
• 1:29:06
  SPEAKER_00: But I feel like we definitely deserved an episode three.
• 1:29:10
  SPEAKER_01: There was a lot.
• 1:29:11
  SPEAKER_01: There was a lot this season, but it did make more sense of why he was like moving so fast between the women sometimes.
• 1:29:16
  SPEAKER_01: So I was like, he's really like abruptly going from person to person, and then I was like, oh, they're only doing a part two.
• 1:29:22
  SPEAKER_00: I really wish though that it had he had allowed it to go to three episodes, and we could have gotten like a more fluid conversation and like let things play out more, but we didn't, I mean, they didn't really touch on the last few episodes.
• 1:29:37
  SPEAKER_00: No, it was basically the big topics, and I feel like we spent 30 minutes on Brian.
• 1:29:42
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean, I know Brian's like backstage with the guys who's like, you're welcome for making this the number one show.
• 1:29:48
  SPEAKER_01: So gross, such a tool.
• 1:29:51
  SPEAKER_01: I mean, I'm happy he was on the show.
• 1:29:54
  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we needed it, but I think we would have been able to fill it with a bunch of other stuff just as we're gonna be.
• 1:29:58
  SPEAKER_01: We need a villain, he's like a perfect villain for sure.
• 1:30:01
  SPEAKER_00: That is true, that is true.
• 1:30:03
  SPEAKER_00: Anyway, we want to thank you guys for following us along on our journey through season one.
• 1:30:09
  SPEAKER_00: Ashley and I will definitely be back for season two.
• 1:30:13
  SPEAKER_00: And we have some things up our sleeves, so we will not be going on a hiatus, we will be having additional episodes, so don't you worry.
• 1:30:21
  SPEAKER_00: Thank you guys so much for supporting Housewives Goss and Glitter.
• 1:30:25
  SPEAKER_00: And until the next one.
• 1:30:26
  SPEAKER_00: Bye.