Latest / Share Your Fire / Share Your Fire, Ep. 5 -- The sounds of healing (SueZee Finley)
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- John Verrico: And it's another exciting episode of Share Your Fire. I've got an exciting guest with me today, and I am delighted to have her here. Let me tell you, imagine suffering through lupus and then finding going through all the treatments and everything else, changing your diet, changing your life in order to finally overcome all of those symptoms, but still not having the joy in your life. What if you can find a way to harmonize that? My guest today is SueZee Finley, who not only found a way to harmonize her own self, but now she does it for others as well. And she is an acoustic sound therapist. And let me bring on my dear friend, SueZee Finlay. SueZee? SueZee Finley: John, thank you so much. I feel like Jeannie the way you brought me in. I like popped in here, this is cool. John Verrico: A lot of fun. I I I'm loving this this system and I'm still learning some of the ins and outs of how to bring guests in and all that fun stuff. And so thank you for letting me experiment with you today and pop you in and out of the screen. SueZee Finley: Well, I have riverside and I didn't know I could do that. So that's fun. I'm gonna try that. So I learned today too. John Verrico: I love it. I love it. Hey, so let's let's talk a little bit about about your journey. because you have had such an interesting well, journey. the trip to travel, whatever you want to SueZee Finley: Yeah. John Verrico: call it, to get to where you are now. so let's talk a little bit about tell tell us a little bit about what you went through. SueZee Finley: Okay, well it is it was a journey. I was a caregiver for three family members, and I saw each one through hospice. And after I was through everything, I thought I was gonna get a chance to get back to my artwork and everything that I loved, but I ended up getting lupus. And one day I literally woke up paralyzed from the neck down. And the doctor scared the bejesus out of me because he was like, Well, you're gonna need to be on immune suppressors for the rest of your life. And When I looked at the immune suppressors, I was very scared because my whole life I never even took an aspirin. I was always one of these people. I took my my vitamins, I worked out every day. The idea of anything impure in my body, I'm like, no, no, no, I wouldn't even take an aspirin. So when I looked at the ingredients and the side effects, it said, may cause blindness. And I tell the doctor, I'm not taking this. John Verrico: No. SueZee Finley: And he goes, Well, why not? I'm like, and I bought the the I because I I read this at home and I bought it back. I'm like, it says it may cause blindness. That almost rarely never happens. John Verrico: Almost rarely, yeah. SueZee Finley: I don't think like think of the languaging. Almost rarely never. And I always have like a weird imagination. So in my head I'm thinking, can you imagine if like you're on a plane and the pilot comes out and says, Welcome to Almost Airlines. We almost rarely never crash. You wouldn't stay John Verrico: Yeah, exactly. SueZee Finley: on the plane. So I was terrified and it I didn't want to take, you know, that prescription. But in the meantime, I had been put on a lot of prednisone. And which is also a very John Verrico: Which has got its own issues. SueZee Finley: scary thing. And I stayed on it for ten days and with prednisone you have to be weaned off by a doctor because it does more things if you stop it abruptly. So I found a very good naturopathic doctor. She says, No, you have to get off this, it does a lot of damage. But in a crisis we all need it because it it gets the inflammation down, it gets your organs to keep functioning. So we do need it. John Verrico: That's why the you know, the the the go packs that they give you, do you they start you off at like six pills and then five pills or whatever. Yeah. SueZee Finley: Yeah, and you have like wean yourself off. But in the meantime, like I felt like superwoman, because after I was on, I phff, I'm not gonna need these immunosuppressors. I'm fine. And gradually it started to wear off and I was getting more and more crippled each day, and it was really scary seeing myself deteriorate. And I was trying everything. And I was I was literally taking hundred and twenty-two supplements a day. And because when you have lupus, you have very little energy, I learned from my my doctor told me this that digestion takes a lot of energy. So she was don't eat a lot. Like I had to eat little tiny meals and I had to take my supplements thirty at a time. So like every three hours I was taking thirty John Verrico: Thirty at a time. SueZee Finley: at a time. And I couldn't swallow pills because I also had this other thing called chogrin's. So my throat was very dry and I had to take applesauce. And my my hands couldn't open the applesauce jars. And I used to wait for my mailman and I would like line them up and then sometimes my sister and her husband we'd driving around the corner. they would call me, I'd put the the stuff on the on the the stoop and they would open the applesauce. So I was taking all these pills and they were food supplements though. They weren't like anything John Verrico: Yeah, no. SueZee Finley: like that was like making my body toxic. So they were all food supplements. And I got about eighty percent better. The inflammation went down. So I was able to walk again. But I never got my energy back. I didn't have the energy and I had severe brain fog. And before that I was a very creative person. I was sculpting and doing all these things and I had I lost my oomph, I lost my zest. I lost my my fire, like your light your fire here. I lost that. And I didn't know what to do. I was trying all these things. And by luck, I had a friend that invited me out, my friend Marla, to go to a dowsing convention. And I was scared because it's upstate New York. Dowsing. You know about pendulums and stuff? Okay. John Verrico: Dousing. Okay. Yeah, yes. SueZee Finley: I I w this was like the best thing I ever did. So I went to this convention. But I was a little bit scared to leave because it was a weekend thing. And with lupus You never know how you're gonna feel. I always tell people lupus is to your body with kryptonite is to Superman. You're walking around and then p like it's like you with kryptonite. And while I was in the vending area, I had one of those kryptonite moments. It was like boom, everything came on me and I felt like I was gonna faint. And I'm looking around, I'm in this beautiful vending area, but there's no place to sit. And I'm like, no, I'm gonna pass out, what what am I gonna do? And there was a guy in the back and he had a massage table. And I remember thinking, Okay, I don't care what that guy's doing over there, I gotta lay down on that table. So I it it seemed like the longest journey of my life, but I got I got to this table and I sat down on the chair and when I sat down he handed me a microphone. And I was like, What? And and he's like, Talk and I was so weak I could barely talk. And he had me say a couple of things and he put me on this table and he gave me this little headset. And this beautiful music started to pipe in. And I remember thinking that I felt as if there were like sound bubbles encasing like the unprocessed grief, the anxiety, all the things that I'd been going through and like lifting them out of my head. Like it was just And my shoulders that were always up here like this 'cause like I said, I was always caregiving. And there were always those little middle of the night emergency room runs. So I always was waiting for the other shoe to drop. My shoulders always here. And then the table started to vibrate and my shoulders came down. And I was like, what is happening? And then after twenty John Verrico: Ha ha ha. SueZee Finley: minutes I'd also also fell in this beautiful sleep and I hadn't slept in a long time. And when I got up, I was like, my god, this is the most clear my head ever felt My body feels relaxed, like the tension melted out of it for the first time in like fifteen years was a long time. 'Cause I do consecutive caregiving. And he goes, he goes, Well, when when you talked into the microphone, he goes, I took a reading of your voice. All the frequencies in your voice are the you know, make up the composite of all the frequencies in your body. He goes, frequencies like nutrients to your body. So I found out what you were low in and I played it back to you. And I was like, what? You know, I was taking a hundred and twenty pulls a day. What? Frequencies and nutrients? I didn't get the memo on that. And it was the biggest aha in my life because up until that point I just saw myself as this biochemical being. So I thought everything had to do with the food I was taking and stuff like that and medicine that people were giving you. John Verrico: Right. And that's what normally that's how normally we look at ourselves. SueZee Finley: No yeah, no one tells us that we're electric. Nobody tells us we're magnetic. Nobody tells us that we're light. You know, and even like you think about Frankenstein, right? They bring him to life with electricity, but we thought that that was sci science fiction. But we are of electricity. And when we start to replace that, we can charge ourselves back up. And I always make analogy analogies with my clients that, you know, if you have something wrong with your car, right? Say it's say you're your battery, you need a new battery, and you bring it to the mechanic. And he fixes your engine, he fixes your spark plugs, he gives you new tires, he paints the car. The car looks great, but the battery's dead. Is the car gonna work? Right? John Verrico: Right. SueZee Finley: And it's kinda like us. So I was missing this main point. I was taking these supplements, I'm eating right, I'm trying to sleep enough, I'm trying to do everything, but I didn't have the charge. And sound is pure energy. And when you know what your notes are, even when you don't know what your notes are, you can still charge yourself simply by humming. singing. I love working with tuning forks. But everything you need to to be a sound therapist you're born with. And that's why I s love telling people about humming. And it's like the number one thing you can do. John Verrico: So it first of all, having known you for a little while, I just can never picture you as the no energy you know, big because you're always SueZee Finley: Yeah, it was it was hard. John Verrico: you're always so so perky and full of full of energy. And and then to find out that that your own voice was able to cure you. Now I know you not truly cured from lupus, but all of the symptoms are you're you're asymptomatic and and look at your energy level. SueZee Finley: Well I gotta tell you with the voice too, because that's funny. So I I bought all this acoustic equipment because I had laid on the sound table and I had the headset and I have a program that tells you what your frequencies are. I'm thinking, my god, like I'm I'm gonna save the world. I love this. And the guy that was selling the sound tables had a three year degree program. And he goes, Do you wanna be a sound therapist? like, Yes. And I had no idea what it was. I just thought it was all this equipment. So I signed up. John Verrico: Ha ha ha. SueZee Finley: Right? And the very first day that we had like a whole bunch of different teachers and this one, the first teacher that came out, I'll never forget, Vicky Dodd, she was amazing. She was doing sound therapy for fifty years already at that to at that point. And she goes, Of all the tools in your sound healing tool chest, your voice is the most important. And I'm like, What? Couldn't someone have told me that like twenty thousand dollars ago? And I said with this voice I'm more likely to kill somebody And I said that part out loud. And she goes, dear heart She called everybody dear heart was so cute. Dear heart, dear heart, no, no, no. Don't talk badly about your voice. Your voice is the exact frequency your body needs to heal. And when I tell people about like needing their note and stuff, what that does is that if you're like deficient in note or you're high strung, you hear it like and even in our language when you say somebody's high strung. When you're upset what happens? Your your vocal cords tighten, you're like, he like, no, what happened? Like your voice goes up. When, you know, you're when you wanna like s when s you wanna like yell at a dog or something, like, What did you do? And you do the the the lower voice. Like so our voice changes depending on our mood. So y if you give yourself the right notes and you get that tension out of your voice, now when you hum and when you sing, You are the right frequency for your body. So we can do everything ourselves. So that's why I'm so in love with sound therapy. John Verrico: That that's amazing. And you know, I th I think about when you say singing, I'm like I'm you're looking at a guy who can't carry a tune in a bucket. SueZee Finley: Me too. John Verrico: and to think that that that's actually that's actually a healing effect. SueZee Finley: And I love your voice. You got the most beautiful voice. John Verrico: I'm glad you think so. Thank you so much. I appreciate that. But you haven't heard me try to sing. SueZee Finley: I bet you sing good. And that this is the other thing too. So this is all psychological. Growing up, we all have the ability to sing. But at some point, some adult or some friend said, no, no, do not sing. Shut just shut up. And John Verrico: Yeah, shut up. SueZee Finley: w it I I think we're the only country like in in in other parts of the world, everybody sings and there's no judgment. There's no like you're good or bad. 'Cause I had a friend I f I don't know if he was in India. John Verrico: Well unless you go on and like, you know, America's got talent or something, you know. SueZee Finley: yeah, something like that. But this guy went to India or something and they they were doing the chanting. He's like, no, I can't sing and he's like, What do you mean? You can talk. What do you mean you can't sing? Like they don't get it. But over John Verrico: Right. SueZee Finley: here we criticize each other. A John Verrico: That's true. SueZee Finley: and then people are like, no, I can't you know, but no, we can all sing and we all should sing, it's the best thing. And not just in the shower. John Verrico: Well, you know, i you say that until people go until you go to the local karaoke and then I'm kidding. SueZee Finley: No, everybody should sing. It's so John Verrico: Look, we can't we maybe maybe we can't all sing like, you know, Pavrati or something, but but but we can sing and that's th that was gonna say that's what really makes the difference. SueZee Finley: Sing for yourself. This is the thing. The singing is for you, to heal you. John Verrico: Yeah. Somehow I got involved with musical theater and I actually did sing in public. Yeah, yeah. And so SueZee Finley: you had told me that story that one day, that was so cool. You played every single part. John Verrico: that was just weird, but but it's it's I never thought never considered myself a a singer. and and to think that my own voice can heal myself or to kind of restabilize my frequencies in my body. That just i I find that so fascinating. And when we first met and you first were telling me about what it was that you did, I just became fascinated. I said, I just can't believe that this is so simple in its concept. SueZee Finley: That's why it seems so simple that you don't think it would work. Right? John Verrico: So tell me now, you have you you you kind of evolved through this, right? You were you were a caretaker for others, constantly doing for others, and then you became a victim of a very significant, very serious illness. You did all the things, you discovered the power of sound and acoustics, and y you you didn't stop. You just you jumped headlong into it. It's like, I'm not just gonna do this a little bit. I'm gonna invest in all of this equipment. And SueZee Finley: Yes. John Verrico: and you jumped in and you bought all this all the stuff and you started doing therapy. And then as you as you got certified and learned more, you found all these other techniques using tuning forks and all the all the so kind of talk a little bit about some of the techniques and and things that you do and then a little bit about the technology that you invested in as well. SueZee Finley: Okay. Well, the technology I s I still love. It's still one of my all time favorite things. And when people come to my office I call it James Bond Spa Day. Because I have all the high John Verrico: Ha ha ha. SueZee Finley: tech stuff. And I feel like if you're having a crisis or a a horrible day and you get on this sound table, it flips you like that. As a matter of fact, at one of my first sound therapy conventions I went to, I met a man that I still have to have in my pocket. I gotta track this guy down. He was ex-military and ex-police. And I'll never forget he started the the talk with he goes, I'm the guy that gets the call and the guns to the head. Now you got a picture, it's a bunch of sound therapists and a little hippie clothes and and a little bowls, and this guy's like, my god. And so what happened, he had a black ops van, and in the black ops van, he equipped it with a sound t sound table and tuning forks and all this stuff. So if he got a call in the middle of the night that somebody was about to commit suicide, He would run, like he would drive or they d they like I you know, Captain, I can't take it anymore like they're having like, you know, flashbacks. He would drive over, grab them, put them on the sound table, play the music to them and and boom, like f flip them right out of that state. And he saved something like three hundred lives in in like five years. And he was getting these he lived in Denver, he was getting these into the VA hospitals to help people. That's how powerful sound is. And we were all like, my God. And we all wanted to work with him. And what I loved about him is that he was explaining that for other cops and military men, they they can't open up to civilians and stuff. So he was training ex-police officers and ex-military to do sound therapy. So everyone out there that thinks it's this like little woo-woo thing with the the the tuning, you know, the yoga pants which I'm guilty I'm wearing right now, I have to say. But the yoga John Verrico: Ha ha ha. SueZee Finley: pants and and the the singing bowls It is intense. I c I mean the military are using it and professionals are getting it into hospitals and it's it's amazing. It's amazing. So yes, so the sound table, what it does, your your skin is like a giant ear. So when you're laying on the on the table and everything's vibrating, that's getting all in through your skin, into your bones, and it's making everything coherent like that and it it changes your brainwaves. So you cannot help but relax. Like your whole body just melts as soon as it gets on a sound table. It's instant. Like it takes I'm gonna say a minute. Not even a minute. And that's why I that's what I experienced. As soon as John Verrico: That's what you that's what you experienced when you were sat on when you at the table. SueZee Finley: I I was like, my God. So I thought but I thought that was the only way that could happen. So that's why I bought all this up. Like this is like the best thing on earth. And I still recommend sound tables. Everyone should have one. Like it it is like the best thing. But when I was taking And I'm still studying with Dr. John Bouillot. He's the one that came up with the idea of he calls it human tuning. And he has all these books on tuning the body with tuning forks. He is an astropathic doctor and a psychiatrist and he was a researcher. And in his lab he had something called an anechoic chamber. And that's a room makes absolutely no sound. And he would go in there and he would listen to his heart and he'd hear his nervous system humming and he'd hear the blood swooshing and he would listen, he would make notes. And this one day on the way into work, he had an altercation with the guy at the toll booth. The guy got him very upset, but he didn't think anything of it. So he just went into his little lab, he got into the economic chamber, and his nervous system was going E and it was like screaming. John Verrico: Ha ha ha. SueZee Finley: And he was like, my god, like we're walking around and we have no idea what's going on inside when we get upset. And he was very intuitive and he's also a musician. And he just had this intuition to go upstairs where they had a music store and buy tuning forks. And he bought two tuning forks. And he got back into the the sound chamber and he went, Bing, and he held them up to his ears. And he said within like twenty seconds, the nervous system went, Mm. So long for meat mmm. John Verrico: So how did he know which notes to get? SueZee Finley: He he was he's a ma also a master musician, so he in intuitively knew like C and G. C and G is the one and this is what's funny, like when you go to like a convention or something, people are trying to sell you all these big sets of tuning forks. He goes, All you need is C and G. C and G and then like the the C the the body tuna that's the weighted one. And but he always has his razor hands. He goes, But that being said, he goes, I am a sound hoarder and he has he has created over three thousand tuning forks. And I bought personally about three hundred of them. John Verrico: Ha ha ha. SueZee Finley: So even though you only need C and G John Verrico: But I was gonna say is C and G appropriate for everybody? And is it appropriate for every situation? SueZee Finley: Yes, so it's it's just about because it it's considered what they call the perfect fifth and it's just it's about the sound ratio. And it's when you do the C and G it does create like this binaural beat and makes the the middle tone and what they call the perfect fifth. But also he said when you're clanging the C and G, his tuning forks he calls them like the Steinway of tuning forks, ring all the overtones. So when you clang those, you're getting all the notes, even though it's C and G. John Verrico: got it. SueZee Finley: getting C and G higher but then you're getting everything else as an overtone. And then when you buy the other sets, you bring in all the overtones as louder John Verrico: Yeah. SueZee Finley: sounds. But it gets addictive 'cause he's got planetary forks, he's got all the brainwave forks. So I'm just like, my God So I love tuning forks as a thing. But so what I like about sound is there's something for everybody's budget and there's something for everybody's taste. So if you're not if you if like you're the type of person that thinks it's woo woo woo and you don't, you know, like singing bowls, you can get all the high tech equipment. And that's why I said that's like James Bonne's Faday. You can go with the tuning forks. I love tuning forks because they're easy to carry. You know, like I th when I travel I always have my tuning forks with me. Every time I go I leave the house I have them with me. You know, so they're always in my bag. Then if you want to go like a little bit if you have a yoga studio and you have a stable place you can have all the the bowls and stuff lined up. You can use Tibetan singing bowls. And I love those 'cause you can put them right on the body. And like you could be laying there, like I was very sick one time. I I used to have problems with my intestines. And this one time they rushed me to the hospital. They charged me like five thousand dollars 'cause they didn't take the insurance for it. They shot me up with morphine, they did all these things I didn't want. And the next time it happened, I was in bed. I had the singing bowl next to me, I put it on my stomach and I went bong. And I did this like twenty minutes. It got rid of all the pain like that. It was amazing. So it John Verrico: What is a singing bowl? SueZee Finley: you never saw singing bowl? I got I should have something over here. I usually have them stacked up. This is a very big one. I put it on there as a cover. Okay, you're gonna laugh. I'm crying my dog snapping you. This my favorite singing bowl. John Verrico: wow, it's quite a large bowl. SueZee Finley: It's a big one. And like this one, I mean, this is a little bit heavy on the body, but it just it vibrates so beautifully. Now I can't ring this once I put my torque snack in. John Verrico: So when you when you strike the singing ball, it vibrates. SueZee Finley: Yes, and if you want, I can strike it. John Verrico: 'Cause when you s when you were saying singing bowl, I was thinking of I I've seen the smaller dishes that you would r rub your finger around to get the the tones. And that's what I thought th that's SueZee Finley: Yes, I do have if you wait one second, you want me to get a grab of little one? John Verrico: what I thought a singing bowl was. SueZee Finley: Well this is th they're actually I just happen to have the big ones. Because I John Verrico: got it. Yeah. SueZee Finley: I I'll go to the extreme. But I have the whole set. I have a lot more in my office. John Verrico: Well that's okay. We g yeah. We could we could get some pictures of you and your singing bowls SueZee Finley: I can say you're just fine. John Verrico: and and and put them up and add them to the show notes. I SueZee Finley: And and they like my little chimes. John Verrico: love your chimes. SueZee Finley: Yeah, but they're I love singing balls. And they have the crystal ones, they have the alchemy bowls which have different gemstones in them. Which go up to like three thousand dollars, they're crazy. John Verrico: Now now what do those what do those add to it though? What makes them SueZee Finley: so now you're getting John Verrico: special? SueZee Finley: the crystals. The crystals and the gemstones because they all have their own frequencies and property. And they John Verrico: Okay. SueZee Finley: all have different things that they do for the body. John Verrico: So you now have several programs that you offer for for people about how to kind of return to harmony, so to speak. And actually that's the name of one of your programs, isn't it not? SueZee Finley: Yes, yes. So I I start everybody by inviting everyone to my frequency fun shop. Those are Mondays at two PM Eastern and that's free. And that's where we get to play with sound and I do lots of silly exercises with you. And it's all about resetting your nervous system. So what happens when you get stressed or you get into a fight with somebody, you're having a bad day, how can we snap back? So it's not about trying to be happy all the time. It's developing that skill that when something happens, you can reset like that. So you keep your nervous system healthier. Because your health depends on the health of your nervous system. If you're walking around in fear all the time, and this is the big thing what I teach why I created the Return to Harmony program, when I was first diagnosed with lupus, I was told you have an autoimmune disease, it's incurable, your body's attacking itself, and the way they described it was your cells are cannibalizing each other. So I was imagining Pac Man inside my body. Right? John Verrico: Ha ha ha. SueZee Finley: So who's gonna sleep at night? And also I was in fear. And you cannot heal when you're living in fear. And that's why I call the program Return to Harmony, 'cause it's all about first of all letting you know that this is not the case. Your body is never turning against you. Your body is doing everything it can to heal you. You know, and like like people like Even in our language, like people complain about the cold, like they're like, Well how come in all this medicine we can't cure the common cold? And there's a reason we can't cure the common cold. The common cold is the cure. Right? So when you stop those symptoms, like your nose is running to get the stuff out. When you get a fever, it's raising your temperature, so it's killing off the things that are trying to harm you. So John Verrico: So all the symptoms that you're feeling are fighting the virus. SueZee Finley: Right, exactly. So that is the cure. Those so people are always trying to get rid of the symptoms 'cause they're inconvenient, but then the cold lingers. Right? So nature knows what it's doing. And so I the way I describe what's going on on with autoimmune disease, 'cause your healthy cells are like they're breaking down. But they're breaking down I call it like your body's trying to be more like Robin Hood. It's like stealing from the healthy cells to try to like save like the rest of you. And you have to put yourself back in harmony so now like every everybody can be healthy again and you can your body's got the magic, it knows what to do. So that's why yeah, it's about harmony and getting out of fear. John Verrico: That's that's amazing. So you're you're Mondays at two PM Eastern Time SueZee Finley: Yeah, it's Eastern time. John Verrico: and that's the Frequency Fun Shop and how do people find that? SueZee Finley: on my website I have a it's acoustic therapeutics dot com. I have a little little banner for it. And also if they go to Facebook I always have it pinned as my post with the link in it. And the Facebook is under SueZee Finley. John Verrico: Okay, we'll make and we will make sure and that is S U E capital Z E E. SueZee Finley: I'm actually gonna laugh. I think when I did my Facebook it was still Susan Finlay. So it might be Susan. It's Susan. John Verrico: Actually, you know what? Your Facebook is Susan. Susan Finley, F I N L E Y, for those of you who SueZee Finley: Yeah. John Verrico: are only listening to the audio of this. And we will put this information in the show notes as well. I'm I'm so glad that you decided to share your acoustic journey with us. And I know you have interesting story about a workshop that you did relatively recently and you took people on a journey. SueZee Finley: Well, it wasn't this was one of my my first ones. So I always learned from Dr. John Bouillot, who I love incredibly, he's my mentor. And he always used the term sound journey. And I thought, wow, this John Verrico: Sound journey. SueZee Finley: sounds so cool because most people say sound bath, which sounds weird 'cause people say, Am I gonna get wet? You know. Right, sound bath, right? John Verrico: I have heard that term before, sound bath, and it never dawned on me that it was the same thing. SueZee Finley: Yeah, so he always said sound journey and he always said, you know, the sound, let the sound carry you. Like, you know the sound carries you to places and you can travel on the sound. I thought that sounds so beautiful. So when I was first doing this, I was just saying that 'cause I thought it was beautiful and I thought it was a metaphor. So I did one of my one of my sound journeys and there were about sixty people as it was a summit. It was like the biggest crowd I ever had. A couple of my friends were there. And after I did the sound journey, the host said, is there anybody who would like to share their experience? And one of the ladies raised a hand, And she goes, yes, yes. She goes, SueZee, SueZee, the sound, the sound was so beautiful. I followed it to your home. And I'm like, John Verrico: Mm-hmm. SueZee Finley: then I'm like, had I known you were coming, I would have cleaned. And she looks at me and she goes, You really need to clean. And then she went like that. And I'm like, my God. And all my friends John Verrico: Ha ha ha ha. SueZee Finley: that know me, because I'm not the greatest housekeeper on earth, were rolling. And but it turns out and This stuff like it really isn't woo-woo. So she really could if you've ever heard the term remote viewing, the military uses this, people can actually drop in. And sound does help you to do that. So I went running back to my teacher like, this is a thing, this is people can really just come to my house on the sound and they said, Yes. Like you have to like not allow that. Like how do I stop that? So the running joke is every time I do a a sound journey, I go, You can go any place you want to go. Except my house. Unless you're John Verrico: Except my house. SueZee Finley: bringing a dustpan and a broom and you're gonna leave it mo looking nice, then it's okay. But other than that, don't John Verrico: I love it. SueZee Finley: come to my house. But no, so sound really is that magical. So if you need to like connect to like a loved one, a lot of people, like during a sound journey, said, like I I saw, you know, my dad or my mom that had passed over. You know, if you're sometimes sometimes we have like problems that we're trying to work out or maybe you have like for me, like if I have an art project and I'm like stuck on a certain part It'll come to me like, this is how I can make that. This is the material I need for that. So it just opens you up and it connects you. And it's it's a really beautiful thing. John Verrico: I love it. I guess that would be great for for writers and anybody who's stuck SueZee Finley: Yeah. John Verrico: i in any sort of a dilemma where they just can't think of the next thing and because there's and then they stress themselves out. This is what happens, right? In any project. We get to a point and we kinda w we hit a barrier, we hit some wall in progress and so we kinda beat ourselves up. And the more you you think about it, the harder it is to kinda grasp whatever's SueZee Finley: Yep. John Verrico: coming next. but this sounds like a great way to reset. and then give you that opportunity to see things maybe in a different light. SueZee Finley: It's the exact thing everybody needs and it's so easy no matter where you are. You like even with the humming, you can do I used to laugh 'cause I thought this was silly, but it works. You can do a silent hum. You can just imagine that you're humming. So if you're in a group of people and like say you can't say anything and someone's like, Maybe like annoying, but I gotta say, okay, I gotta just keep it cool. You can actually hum to yourself. Then you without actually making a noise. So you just imagine what it what it feels like and your body. John Verrico: Imagine that you're humming. SueZee Finley: Imagine that you're humming and your body does not know the difference. Like your your your imag I'm sorry, not your body, your mind your body your your mind, when it's thinking of something, your body thinks it's real, so it's gonna feel it. That's why one of my favorite stories, John Verrico: That's true. Yeah. SueZee Finley: they I forgot who this guy was. They were interviewing this this man where everyone's saying, This guy is like so happy all the time and like, we have to know, what you what are you so you know, what are you so happy about? And he's all we go is I'm always I'm always dreaming about skiing. I I I love skiing. And he lived in some like really hot climate. I mean like John Verrico: Ha ha ha. SueZee Finley: When do you go skiing? He goes, he goes once a year. They're like, So how are you so happy? He goes, I dream about it every day. And it's like I'm there. So I always think about that. So your mind, like he just he loves it so much, even though he gets there maybe one week out of the year, he relives it every day. And we need to do that with the good things, there's some people that do that with the bad things every day. They stay upset all the time and grouchy all the time because they can't get through the past. So Think about the good things instead. It's a little bit harder because we are hardwired to think about the negative. They say that we negativity is like Velcro to us, right? No, I'm sorry. The happiness no, negativity is Velcro. And like the happiness stuff is like Teflon it it slides off faster. But we have to reverse that. We have to make it that the happy stuff becomes Velcro. And the only way you can do that is to keep acknowledging it and keep remembering it and stop brooding on the past stuff. John Verrico: So so often we tend to live in the negative zone. we tend to we live in states of fear all the time. And SueZee Finley: Yeah. John Verrico: when you're contemplating a new project or maybe you're thinking about changing a job or or you're in some kind of a whatever kind of a decision phase that you're in, it's been said that the first ten things that come to your mind are the last ten things you failed at. SueZee Finley: Ooh. John Verrico: And that makes us so much more hesitant to take that leap, to make that decision, to make that change in our life. But we have to learn to overcome that and realize that that is just our own mindset that is working against us, but your body is trying to work for you. So I thank you for enlightening us on how sound works for us and acoustics work for us. And I hope that we can get people to tune in to your tune in. Ha ha there's that pardon pardon the pun there. Tune into SueZee Finley: Tune in. I always say tune into joy. I always say tune in to joy. John Verrico: Joy at your Frequency Fun Shops on Mondays and look into more of what it is that you have to offer. And SueZee just I I want to wrap this up just by giving somebody giving our listeners an idea of what you mean when you say how you can hum to reset yourself. What what is that like? SueZee Finley: I can do we have time to a little a quick little humming exercise? John Verrico: Sure, why not? SueZee Finley: Okay. So the easiest way to do this and the most fun, it's a actually a a yogic breath, they call the Brahnayama breath. You close off your ears, it looks silly, and you close off your eyes, 'cause it just makes it just you feel it better. And you just inhale. And on the exhale, you just go, mm. just do three rounds. John Verrico: Mm. SueZee Finley: And with that does John Verrico: For those of you who you just kinda tuned in at that moment, we weren't listening to Foghorns or SueZee Finley: But what that does though, it instantly lowers your blood pressure. It creates a molecule called nitric oxide, which is a vasodilate. It opens up all the the veins and arteries and bronchioles and everything, lowers your blood pressure like that. It's also antibacterial and antiviral, so it actually keeps you from getting bacteria and viruses. So if you have a cold that's really good to keep humming and you want to not get colds, keep humming because it keeps that molecule going, that nitric oxide. And it's one of the best things. And it it strengthens your vagus nerve. And the vagus nerve is what controls fight and flight and rest and digest. And if you have a strong vagus nerve, you're gonna be more resistant to stress. So all that from like three minutes of humming. And it's good to do it twice a day in the morning and before bed. John Verrico: Beautiful. SueZee, how do people get in touch with you? We mentioned mentioned on Facebook your is Susan SueZee Finley: on my website. Yep, Facebook, my website. John Verrico: S U S A N Finley, F I N L E Y. And and your website is acoustiktherapeutics dot com. SueZee Finley: Yep, and therapeutics is spelled IX, and we say for extra fun. John Verrico: huh. SueZee Finley: And come to the fun shops, because that's where you'll really get to see how much you know, what it can do. I we I always joke around what happens in the fun shop. We don't want to stay in the fun shop. We want you to bring the peace and the joy and the love home. That's like our main our main goal because it spreads. When you take care of yourself, 'cause this was the other thing, I used to feel that taking care of myself was wrong. Like when you're a caregiver, you think you just need to take care of everybody else and you don't count. The first lesson and that's John Verrico: So many people wind up in that mode. Yeah. SueZee Finley: why people get sick, the first lesson I learned. Like teacher came out and said, Why do you all want to be sound therapists? We all went, 'Cause we want to heal everybody and she goes, No. You have to heal yourself. That is your job because when you're coherent and you're in harmony, you spread it to everybody else. And if you're not taking care of yourself, you're not doing anybody any favour. So take care of yourself. And so when you come and do a frequency fun shop, you're helping everybody around you. Your family, your pets, your workers, coworkers. John Verrico: SueZee, thank you so much. This SueZee Finley: thank you. John Verrico: it's been a great conversation and I've learned a lot. And even though we've had we've we've talked about some of this stuff in the past and I've even attended one of your sessions because we were at a conference together. but I really wanted to get this deeper explanation and get a little bit more of of the history of how you kind of wound up doing this. So I really appreciate that and I love how you are taking your knowledge and sharing it with others so that they can they can learn how to heal on their own. And so th thank you, SueZee, for sharing your fire here today. And SueZee Finley: thank you. Thank you for having me. John Verrico: folks, keep listening to our shows. We are gonna keep bringing you wonderful people like SueZee Finley. Take care and have a great day. SueZee Finley: Thank you.