Latest / Naughty But Nice with Rob Shuter / Special Bonus Episode: Dr. Jenn Mann from 'Couples Therapy' focusing on love and romance! What we are doing right and wrong?
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- 0:08Speaker 1: Advice Shot. Hello, Hello, welcome to the Naughty but Night Show.
- 0:16Speaker 1: I'm Rob Shooter, your hosts. We're gonna have a special
- 0:19Speaker 1: edition of the show today, a bonus edition. We don't
- 0:22Speaker 1: normally do shows over the weekend, but they're getting so
- 0:25Speaker 1: many people listening, we've got a very special one for
- 0:28Speaker 1: you today. We've got a really brilliant guest, someone I've
- 0:31Speaker 1: liked for a long time, Dr jen Man. You might
- 0:35Speaker 1: know Dr Jen Mann from Couples Therapy or one of
- 0:39Speaker 1: her wonderful books. Hey, you welcome to the show. Doc Well,
- 0:43Speaker 1: thank you so much for having me. We're really excited
- 0:45Speaker 1: about it's a love and romance. This is a celebrity show.
- 0:48Speaker 1: We talked about lots of celebrities, but love and Romance
- 0:51Speaker 1: is sort of part of that tour. And so we've
- 0:53Speaker 1: got a ton of questions, some audience questions, some questions
- 0:57Speaker 1: from me. So let's jump in. It's a little bit
- 0:59Speaker 1: of party. Is a patient here, Dr Jen I know
- 1:01Speaker 1: it sounds a little but that's how we do. What
- 1:04Speaker 1: time is all? We say together, it's tea time? What
- 1:08Speaker 1: time is it? Dr Jenn It's time you very much? So,
- 1:13Speaker 1: how did allays begin for you? How did you get
- 1:15Speaker 1: the gig on couples therapy. I think that's where most
- 1:18Speaker 1: people will know you from. Um, most people know me
- 1:22Speaker 1: from couples therapy. It kind of goes back a long
- 1:25Speaker 1: way and um, but really kind of My career as
- 1:30Speaker 1: a therapist started in in undergrad. I was a journalism major.
- 1:35Speaker 1: I did a story about rape on college campus and yes,
- 1:41Speaker 1: and I became really obsessed with the topic, and I
- 1:45Speaker 1: volunteered to work for the Los Angeles Commission on Assaults
- 1:48Speaker 1: against Women as a rape and Domestic Violence counselor. As
- 1:51Speaker 1: soon as I started doing the therapy work, I realized
- 1:54Speaker 1: I found my calling. I started grad school. While I
- 1:57Speaker 1: was in grad school, in one of my is on
- 2:00Speaker 1: eating disorders, my teacher was going to be on TV
- 2:04Speaker 1: and she said, Hey, you're very outspoken. Would you come
- 2:07Speaker 1: and talk about recovery issues? So I went, and I realized,
- 2:11Speaker 1: instead of sitting in my office and helping one person,
- 2:14Speaker 1: I could potentially help millions, And so it really became
- 2:18Speaker 1: an interest in mine. I started doing show after show,
- 2:21Speaker 1: and one day I get a call from none other
- 2:23Speaker 1: than Harvey Levin. Yes, exactly that light when you picked
- 2:30Speaker 1: up the phone, did you think I've done something wrong.
- 2:33Speaker 1: And it was before it was before TNZ. It was
- 2:36Speaker 1: it was long before t n Z. And Harvey called
- 2:39Speaker 1: me and said, Hey, I'm doing this show called We
- 2:41Speaker 1: Need Professional Help. We've cast a two therapists. We would
- 2:44Speaker 1: love to audition you. I've seen you on TV. I
- 2:47Speaker 1: really like your work, coming and and do it auditions.
- 2:51Speaker 1: So I said, yeah, sure, So I came in. Long
- 2:54Speaker 1: story short, I did this crazy audition, which is a
- 2:57Speaker 1: whole other was crazy. Did you wear something crazy? What
- 3:00Speaker 1: did you put on an accident door? No? It was
- 3:03Speaker 1: nuts because the premise of the show was that, uh,
- 3:08Speaker 1: two people who are having conflict in their life would
- 3:10Speaker 1: come in and talk to a panel of therapist. At
- 3:13Speaker 1: the end of the show, the therapists would tell you,
- 3:15Speaker 1: like she, did you stay together or break up? And
- 3:17Speaker 1: they would get some money that would either go towards
- 3:20Speaker 1: like the divorce and or the move out for therapy exactly. So,
- 3:26Speaker 1: the couple that came in was a woman who was
- 3:29Speaker 1: an identical twin and her fiance. What happened was that
- 3:36Speaker 1: the two of them were into some fun, kinky sacks.
- 3:39Speaker 1: One day he gets a call from her and she says,
- 3:43Speaker 1: meet me at such and such a motel. There's a
- 3:46Speaker 1: key waiting for you. I'm going to blindfold you. We're
- 3:49Speaker 1: going to have what fabulous. So he's all in and
- 3:55Speaker 1: they've done things like this before he comes to the hotel,
- 3:58Speaker 1: the rooms ark, she gets blindfolded, they have crazy sex.
- 4:04Speaker 1: The blindfold is taken off and he looked and it
- 4:07Speaker 1: is her twin sister. Yeah, that started your time. We
- 4:15Speaker 1: should we should find these twins and send them a
- 4:19Speaker 1: But the crazy that even crazier thing was that their
- 4:23Speaker 1: conflict was that the woman who he was going to
- 4:27Speaker 1: marry wanted to invite her twin sister to the wedding.
- 4:32Speaker 1: We did not want her understand that good grief. So
- 4:35Speaker 1: this makes couples therapy look actually quite easy. Compared to that,
- 4:39Speaker 1: it was far more jerry than couples. I have a
- 4:42Speaker 1: bit of a serious question. Please don't be offended by it,
- 4:44Speaker 1: But sometimes doctors on TV get a little bit of
- 4:47Speaker 1: a bad rap. What do you think about that? Sometimes
- 4:50Speaker 1: I see therapists recently on the Real Housewives, and it
- 4:54Speaker 1: didn't feel quite genuine enough. Do you know what I mean?
- 4:57Speaker 1: I do? I do um. Look, I'm not defended at all.
- 5:00Speaker 1: I hear it all the time. I think that there
- 5:02Speaker 1: are a lot of therapists who are on TV for
- 5:04Speaker 1: the wrong reason, or who quite frankly, aren't doing a
- 5:09Speaker 1: really great job. Sometimes people are not qualified, Sometimes they
- 5:13Speaker 1: don't realize the seriousness of the issues. Sometimes they're pandering
- 5:16Speaker 1: to the camera. You know. One of the things that
- 5:19Speaker 1: I think has made a couples therapy incredibly special, and
- 5:22Speaker 1: I think the audience really picks up on it, is
- 5:25Speaker 1: that it's real. When I came in an audition for
- 5:27Speaker 1: the show, the executive producer Damien Sullivan said to me
- 5:30Speaker 1: and the creator, he said, the therapy is of the
- 5:34Speaker 1: utmost important. I will never interrupt you, and I will
- 5:37Speaker 1: always put the therapy first. And there were times, yeah,
- 5:41Speaker 1: there were times where other people came on set, executives
- 5:44Speaker 1: and the people said like, hey, if interruptor put in
- 5:47Speaker 1: your piece, I never warrant your piece. And he always said, no,
- 5:51Speaker 1: you let her do her thing because that is what
- 5:54Speaker 1: will help heal these people and ultimately will make for
- 5:57Speaker 1: the best team, the best He was absolutely so. Before
- 6:00Speaker 1: we jump into some relationship questions and some celebrity questions,
- 6:04Speaker 1: I've got a point out to I'm such a fan
- 6:06Speaker 1: of your mom and dance. There's such superstar. Your daddy
- 6:10Speaker 1: is very mad and your mommy Cynthia. Now, if you've
- 6:15Speaker 1: seen the musical God, if you've seen the music all beautiful,
- 6:20Speaker 1: your mommy and daddy are in the musical. What was
- 6:23Speaker 1: that like growing up with them? Well, you know, look,
- 6:27Speaker 1: I think that the growing up in a creative household
- 6:31Speaker 1: where my parents are songwriters, where we had we had
- 6:35Speaker 1: singers coming in and out and create a people coming
- 6:38Speaker 1: in out of the house. It made doing therapy with
- 6:42Speaker 1: celebrities their second nature. And you know, my father, I
- 6:46Speaker 1: didn't know until I was already a therapist. I was
- 6:48Speaker 1: actually named after my father's first therapist, Dr John Yes.
- 6:54Speaker 1: So I came from a very therapy oriented household that
- 6:57Speaker 1: was very aware of these things and about that with
- 7:02Speaker 1: a lot of motions. Nobody yes, you know, and you
- 7:08Speaker 1: know it didn't. The first time DMX walked into the
- 7:11Speaker 1: room for therapy, I had never met him. To be honest,
- 7:14Speaker 1: I hadn't even heard of him. I'm more of an
- 7:16Speaker 1: I grew up with R and B wrapped, and I
- 7:19Speaker 1: had heard all these things about him, and I was like, man,
- 7:22Speaker 1: I hope I can help this guy. And he walked
- 7:24Speaker 1: into the room, and there was a sense of familiarity
- 7:27Speaker 1: to me, having grown up in the music business and
- 7:30Speaker 1: recording studios, that as soon as you walked in the room,
- 7:33Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, you're my peeps. I get you, like,
- 7:36Speaker 1: I can't help you. Remember girl coming walking home and
- 7:40Speaker 1: seeing sort of Carol King sitting in your living room.
- 7:44Speaker 1: Carol King is like an aunt to me. I mean,
- 7:46Speaker 1: she's like she's family to me, and she's really one
- 7:50Speaker 1: of the warmest, most wonderful people you could ever ask for.
- 7:55Speaker 1: Why are you doing this, jan Why are you working
- 7:58Speaker 1: so hard? You must be so rich. Well, my parents are,
- 8:04Speaker 1: and well they are very generous people. It's always been
- 8:07Speaker 1: very important to me to have my own career, my
- 8:11Speaker 1: own identity. You know. I kind of grew up a
- 8:13Speaker 1: lot of people would say to me like, oh, you're
- 8:16Speaker 1: very man and since the wild daughter, and I didn't
- 8:18Speaker 1: want to be Barry Man and since the a wild staughter,
- 8:20Speaker 1: I want to have my own identity. I was an
- 8:22Speaker 1: elite level gymnast as on the national team for five years,
- 8:26Speaker 1: performed in the eighty four Olympics. I went on to
- 8:28Speaker 1: have my own career and that was really important to
- 8:36Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen to this podcast. They're so famous, famous people,
- 8:41Speaker 1: and I hope they're like a jingle for the show. Okay,
- 8:44Speaker 1: let's get into some some dating questions. What are the
- 8:46Speaker 1: biggest mistakes people make when they're dating? That's a question
- 8:49Speaker 1: with God. What are some of the biggest mistakes actual dating,
- 8:54Speaker 1: like the early stage, probably the biggest. The biggest mistake
- 8:59Speaker 1: people make is to not see what's in front of them.
- 9:03Speaker 1: That in the first three dates typically are people are
- 9:08Speaker 1: at their most honest. And I can't tell you how
- 9:10Speaker 1: many people I have seen in my practice, even how
- 9:13Speaker 1: many girlfriends have been on date and the guy says,
- 9:15Speaker 1: you know, I'm really not commitment oriented, or oh yeah,
- 9:19Speaker 1: you know I've got a sex addiction, or you know
- 9:22Speaker 1: I smoke weed all the time, and I you know,
- 9:26Speaker 1: I'm that you know that job. You know, well, I'm
- 9:28Speaker 1: I'm kind of always employed. But if you can pay
- 9:31Speaker 1: for dinner, and people tell you who they are. But
- 9:37Speaker 1: sometimes because of the chemistry, sometimes because we're just feeling it.
- 9:41Speaker 1: Sometimes it's just you know that they're something about them
- 9:46Speaker 1: feeds into our unconscious and our history, and we don't
- 9:49Speaker 1: want to see what's in front of us. So, really,
- 9:50Speaker 1: the number one mistake in the early stages is ignoring
- 9:55Speaker 1: the warning signals, ignoring the red flax. Listen I as
- 9:59Speaker 1: a gossip columnist, as celebrity column ist here, the most
- 10:01Speaker 1: important thing celebrities say to me is the very first thing,
- 10:05Speaker 1: in the very last. The middle's rubbish, but they always
- 10:08Speaker 1: drop a bombshell before they leave. That's what they tell me.
- 10:12Speaker 1: That happened an affair with Brad Petza or something. I'm like,
- 10:14Speaker 1: what total the first last? What's that about? Jim? Well,
- 10:19Speaker 1: you know, we call that in my business, dropping a bomb,
- 10:22Speaker 1: and it's a It's very common as a therapist that like, okay,
- 10:26Speaker 1: we have this session. I'm walking someone to the door
- 10:29Speaker 1: and then they say, oh, and by the way, my
- 10:32Speaker 1: uncle molested me. See you next week. I'm like, whoa,
- 10:36Speaker 1: what don't just happened? Like? And I think sometimes people
- 10:39Speaker 1: do that because in therapy they're not necessarily ready to
- 10:43Speaker 1: process it, but they can't hold it any longer. And
- 10:46Speaker 1: I suspect with you, you have such a great way
- 10:49Speaker 1: about you. You're very easy to talk to, and I
- 10:52Speaker 1: think that people probably let their guard down, like he's
- 10:58Speaker 1: oh he's a gossip columnist. Oh, I gotta keep my
- 11:01Speaker 1: guard up. But after spending enough time charming, I'm sure
- 11:05Speaker 1: they're just like, oh, I can't take it any longer.
- 11:10Speaker 1: This is another good question. This is a really good question.
- 11:12Speaker 1: A lots of my single girlfriends and my girlfriends asked this.
- 11:15Speaker 1: How do you meet a good person? What are we doing?
- 11:18Speaker 1: Should we be on the apps? Should we try to
- 11:20Speaker 1: go to bars? Obviously it's different at the moment, But
- 11:22Speaker 1: when we come back, how do we meet somebody who
- 11:25Speaker 1: we like that has similar interests? What advice? Sure? Well,
- 11:29Speaker 1: I believe that we should think of dating like a pie,
- 11:33Speaker 1: and each slice of the pie should represent a different
- 11:36Speaker 1: method of meeting people. Yes, absolutely be on the app,
- 11:39Speaker 1: but don't only be on the app. Also tell your friends,
- 11:43Speaker 1: tell your parents friends, Hey, i'd really like to meet someone.
- 11:46Speaker 1: I'm really open to a setup. Here are three qualities
- 11:49Speaker 1: that I'm looking for and a person. If you know
- 11:52Speaker 1: anyone like this, please let me know. I think that
- 11:55Speaker 1: you should be getting involved in organizations that have to
- 11:58Speaker 1: do with things that you care about. If you are
- 12:01Speaker 1: into politics, support a candidate, go and volunte here if
- 12:06Speaker 1: you you know. Obviously, right now we can't do anything
- 12:08Speaker 1: in person. Running club get into I like the theater,
- 12:15Speaker 1: so I met a lot of my friends and Bruce,
- 12:17Speaker 1: my husband in the theater. So do think exactly that
- 12:20Speaker 1: you find people who have similar interests? Oh, this is
- 12:23Speaker 1: a quite a naughty question for this show. We're trying
- 12:25Speaker 1: to love that. It makes me blush talking about sex,
- 12:28Speaker 1: and which is should you have sex on the first date? Doctor?
- 12:32Speaker 1: J Jens a doctor? So this is medical advice everybody. Okay,
- 12:36Speaker 1: So well, here's the thing. The problem with having sex
- 12:41Speaker 1: on the first date is that typically, and this is
- 12:45Speaker 1: usually little more women than men, but it can be
- 12:48Speaker 1: men as well, and same thing with same sex couples.
- 12:51Speaker 1: That typically what happens if the sex is really good,
- 12:55Speaker 1: we bond, We connect all of a sudden, someone who's
- 12:59Speaker 1: not a really great appropriate partner could seem like the
- 13:03Speaker 1: person we want to mate for life with. So I
- 13:06Speaker 1: think that the problem is not about the sex or
- 13:09Speaker 1: the judgment about the sex. The problem is that we
- 13:13Speaker 1: tend to lose our clarity when it comes to assessing
- 13:16Speaker 1: a partner. That said, I also think that when it's
- 13:20Speaker 1: really meant to be, when two people are really right
- 13:23Speaker 1: for each other, that's not going to mess it up
- 13:25Speaker 1: and look in the show beautiful. You see that my
- 13:28Speaker 1: mom has SE's with my dad on their first writing
- 13:32Speaker 1: date and here they are, you know, almost sixty years later.
- 13:37Speaker 1: What was that like watching that show? Was it wild
- 13:40Speaker 1: for you sitting there? It was pretty wild? It was.
- 13:43Speaker 1: It was really wild to see two people portray my
- 13:48Speaker 1: parents and capture their essence so well. Did a good job.
- 13:54Speaker 1: But I loved it. I would say that of it
- 13:58Speaker 1: or more was true. And they really did capture the
- 14:01Speaker 1: essence of my path, which was cool. This is a
- 14:04Speaker 1: good question for our friend Sheila. Can you ever trust
- 14:07Speaker 1: a cheetah again? And Oh that's a tough one, isn't it.
- 14:11Speaker 1: Can you trust somebody that cheated on you? It's a
- 14:13Speaker 1: great question and the answer is a little complicated. Somebody
- 14:22Speaker 1: this is a big christ much for me. So here's
- 14:28Speaker 1: the thing. If someone has a chronic pattern of cheating,
- 14:35Speaker 1: then it's probably not going to change. If someone has
- 14:40Speaker 1: screwed up one time, well maybe all that with the
- 14:45Speaker 1: caveat and I talked about this a lot in my book,
- 14:47Speaker 1: The Relationship Fix. That one of the biggest mistakes that
- 14:52Speaker 1: people tend to make with this And I get these
- 14:54Speaker 1: calls on the radio all the time, where someone calls
- 14:57Speaker 1: and said, my girlfriend and my boyfriend, my wife, my husband,
- 15:02Speaker 1: whoever it is, cheated and they came to me crying
- 15:07Speaker 1: and said they're so sorry they did it, and I
- 15:09Speaker 1: took them back and now I think they're cheating again.
- 15:12Speaker 1: Like I can't understand this and what I The first
- 15:15Speaker 1: question I always ask is, well, what was it that
- 15:20Speaker 1: they told you that indicated that something was going to
- 15:24Speaker 1: be different? What what behavior? What action did they take
- 15:31Speaker 1: to ensure that it wouldn't happen again? And inevitably, the
- 15:34Speaker 1: answer is always nothing. They cried, they said they were solid.
- 15:38Speaker 1: That's not enough. That is not But I'm never going
- 15:42Speaker 1: to be friends with them ever again, or I'm not
- 15:44Speaker 1: going out with that terrible influence. So I've cut off
- 15:46Speaker 1: pizza from my life. Blah blah blah exactly. I've gotten
- 15:50Speaker 1: into therapy. I really looked at why I've sabotaged this relationship,
- 15:54Speaker 1: and I've got myself into therapy to really make sure
- 15:57Speaker 1: that I never do that again. I I'm going to
- 16:00Speaker 1: be totally transparent with my social media. You have every passport.
- 16:04Speaker 1: If you want me off Facebook, I will do that.
- 16:06Speaker 1: What about if you said I'm going to buy the
- 16:08Speaker 1: relationship fix. What about if you said that? Jen? I
- 16:10Speaker 1: thought the relationship the relationship the relationship fix R and
- 16:16Speaker 1: six up guide to from a communication connection intim see
- 16:19Speaker 1: it solves all relationship problems for the question to be
- 16:23Speaker 1: careful of the answer, considering how I make my living here, Jen,
- 16:27Speaker 1: should you kiss and tell? I say absolutely, you should
- 16:30Speaker 1: tell me? But should you only you? You should kiss
- 16:33Speaker 1: and tell you all the time? You should tell, you
- 16:37Speaker 1: should be told every detail of everybody should like what
- 16:42Speaker 1: do you think about it? And I think that in
- 16:47Speaker 1: order for sex between two people, you know, if we're
- 16:51Speaker 1: not talking like a one night stand, but between two
- 16:54Speaker 1: people to be really great, there has to be a
- 16:57Speaker 1: level of trust and a lover or vulnerability. And you know,
- 17:00Speaker 1: one of the things I talk about a lot. You know,
- 17:03Speaker 1: it's funny with the Relationship Fixed, there are six chapters,
- 17:07Speaker 1: the last chapters about sex, and that's the chapter that
- 17:09Speaker 1: everybody always wants to ask me about. And the thing
- 17:12Speaker 1: about sex that people don't talk about that's really important
- 17:16Speaker 1: and you I'm sure no, there's more than anyone with
- 17:19Speaker 1: the secrets that you hear it. I know, I know
- 17:24Speaker 1: I won't go I won't go to talking don't worry.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Is that really great sex is not always politically correct.
- 17:32Speaker 1: People say and do things and make sounds that aren't
- 17:35Speaker 1: things that they want other people to know about. So
- 17:37Speaker 1: in order for sex between two people to be great,
- 17:41Speaker 1: both people have to know what happens in these four
- 17:44Speaker 1: walls or wherever you are swinging off that chandelier the trappies.
- 17:49Speaker 1: What happens between us stays between part of having great
- 17:54Speaker 1: sex exactly, sh I loved your parents, but I think
- 17:58Speaker 1: I love you more. You're Dr j How many books
- 18:03Speaker 1: is this that you're on? So this is not your first?
- 18:05Speaker 1: You're You're quite the author. Harry Potter. I've written two
- 18:08Speaker 1: parenting books, uh The Easy Guy to Raising Happy Company
- 18:12Speaker 1: Kids and super Baby Twelve Ways to give you a
- 18:14Speaker 1: child a head start in the first three years, and then,
- 18:17Speaker 1: of course The Relationship fixs Dr jensix scept Guide to
- 18:20Speaker 1: Improving Communication, connection and Intimacy and you will love this.
- 18:24Speaker 1: I wrote a children's book with my mother, SimPE A
- 18:27Speaker 1: Wild All Rock and Babies. Did you get along? Are
- 18:32Speaker 1: you a better collaborator than your father? What did mom say?
- 18:35Speaker 1: My parents are amazing collaborators. It has definitely been ups
- 18:40Speaker 1: and downs for them of collaboration. But my mom and
- 18:44Speaker 1: I wrote that book well feeding my daughters who had
- 18:47Speaker 1: very severe reflux and college, and we would be feeding
- 18:50Speaker 1: them and we would say, you know, like, oh my god,
- 18:53Speaker 1: what do we do before these babies. Then we would say,
- 18:55Speaker 1: oh my god, there's such rock star. And then we
- 18:57Speaker 1: wrote this book called Rock and Babies, and it's all
- 19:00Speaker 1: about kind of you would appreciate it because it's about
- 19:03Speaker 1: babies as celebrities. It's kind of like, you know, looking
- 19:06Speaker 1: at baby says like, oh, you know, rocking babies have
- 19:10Speaker 1: paparazzi and parents I taking pictures for the baby. So
- 19:14Speaker 1: it was just kind of a metaphor. We were all
- 19:16Speaker 1: checking out. Do you have a celebrity crush? Dr Jen
- 19:20Speaker 1: come on my celebrity crushes. Eric Schiffer my my long
- 19:25Speaker 1: term partner. You probably have seen him on TV a lot.
- 19:30Speaker 1: He's a very handsome man. We've been to we've been
- 19:33Speaker 1: together for seven years. He's we're not marrying, but whoever,
- 19:44Speaker 1: you know, I mean, sometimes I were wearing it happened
- 19:47Speaker 1: to only fit that finger, um, but he is just
- 19:50Speaker 1: the sexiest. If you did get married, yes, wedding song
- 19:55Speaker 1: b would it be one of your mom and dad.
- 19:57Speaker 1: So would it be one of the competitors and I
- 20:00Speaker 1: couldn't do that? Are you kidding me? No? I guess what.
- 20:04Speaker 1: It would have to be one of my parents. But
- 20:06Speaker 1: the thing is a lot of my parents are kind
- 20:08Speaker 1: of break up tarn't you you wantn't love and feeling
- 20:15Speaker 1: come again? Yeah? That It's like people that get married
- 20:18Speaker 1: to the greatest love of all, they don't listen to
- 20:20Speaker 1: the lyrics. It's about the bomb. I mean that wouldn't work,
- 20:27Speaker 1: say Eric. You was such a delight. Thank you for
- 20:32Speaker 1: making time to do this. Everybody. Check out Dr Jen's
- 20:35Speaker 1: new book, Relationship Fixed. We were going to gossip about celebrities,
- 20:39Speaker 1: but you were much, much, much too interesting and hopefully
- 20:43Speaker 1: we answered some of your questions about your own love
- 20:45Speaker 1: and romance in your life. Once again, thank you, Dr Jenn,
- 20:50Speaker 1: Take care of everybody. Thank you for listening to the
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- 21:03Speaker 1: We say the word nice together. Okay, and remember all together. Now,
- 21:07Speaker 1: if you're going to be naughty. You've got to be nice.
- 21:13Speaker 1: Take it off. It's not even nice with bro