Latest / NCSC College Connections / NCSC Podcast "College Connections" - Season 2, Episode 3 - " Overcoming Fears of College"
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to College Connections, sponsored by North Central State College.
- 0:03I'm Keith Stoner. This series was developed to help students
- 0:06and parents explore higher education and make the best informed
- 0:10choice for themselves and their families. Well, welcome back to
- 0:13the second in a series of podcasts really exploring how
- 0:18college is changing and how one of the newest items
- 0:23that are changing with that evolution is liberal Arts and
- 0:28how important it's becoming in all things from education, workforce,
- 0:33and certainly to the employability of our graduates. So last
- 0:37time we talked about how that workforce was changing, and
- 0:40today we're going to talk about how students are impacted,
- 0:43how they're coming to us again. Our guest today is
- 0:47doctor Stephen Haynes. He is the dean of Liberal Arts
- 0:49north Central State College, and my name is Keith Stoner.
- 0:53Let's get started. So, one of the things that we're
- 0:56dealing with when when students are coming to us, you know,
- 0:58we're looking at all kinds of options. Some are technical,
- 1:02but certainly some are really aligning well to what used
- 1:05to be just the Liberal Arts as a solution for adaptability,
- 1:11employability and all of that. What are some of the
- 1:14aspects or some of the types of needs that these
- 1:17students are coming to us with these days.
- 1:20Speaker 2: Oh, the needs are endless. It is amazing when you're
- 1:25working with students because everybody's an individual and everybody has
- 1:29individual concerns, and at North Central State College, we are
- 1:34very in tune to working with the individual and seeing
- 1:39what really is going on with their life and how
- 1:43we can help them. That is essential and one of
- 1:46the things that comes out and a lot of people,
- 1:50especially when they're first exploring the idea of college, is fear.
- 1:56It is the concern of going into college doing it.
- 2:00It is a scary time, exciting time, but scary time
- 2:05for a lot of people for a lot of different reasons.
- 2:08But to borrow a line from President Franklin Delano Roosevelt,
- 2:12there's nothing to fear but fear itself. And once you
- 2:16get into it, and once you start learning it, really
- 2:20the fear goes away and people realize that it is
- 2:23for them, They can do it. It is just getting
- 2:27over that. Fear is a huge thing that a lot
- 2:32of people have to work through and get through, and
- 2:36we're here to help them.
- 2:37Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you think that's really normal. I mean, anytime
- 2:41you try something new, start something new, a new job,
- 2:43a new school, and move through year K twelve, you know,
- 2:47you move from you first to second grade or high
- 2:50school or whatever. You know, you always have the questions
- 2:53can I do this? Am I ready? And you know,
- 2:55by and large, the hardest thing to do is to
- 2:58step in and try. You know, you take that first
- 3:00step and the next thing you know, you're just you're
- 3:03into it, knee deep and you're and you're just doing
- 3:07so well. You can't even imagine. That's the kind of
- 3:10successes that I see our kids getting set up for.
- 3:12I see us setting up these students for the success,
- 3:15sometimes more success than they thought was ever going to
- 3:18be possible.
- 3:18Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yes, I can't agree with you more, Keith.
- 3:21And it's that fear that really holds a lot of
- 3:25people back. It's not the reality. It is that fear
- 3:29of what it's going to be. And there's a lot
- 3:31of reasons for that fear, and let's just take some
- 3:34of them. I mean, I'm not good at this class,
- 3:37I'm not good at math, I'm not good at writing.
- 3:39I hate public speaking. I you know the old famous
- 3:43you know statistics, more people are afraid of public speaking
- 3:46than dying. So people rather be in the casket than
- 3:50giving the eulogy, as the old joke goes, right, that
- 3:54is real and those fears I can see are real.
- 3:59But believe it or not, everybody struggles at something. Everybody
- 4:05isn't good at everything.
- 4:07Speaker 1: And in that okay, I think that's okay because that's
- 4:11part of what you're going to college to figure out. Absolutely,
- 4:14what do you excel at? What are you really good?
- 4:16What really puts you on the jazz? What are you
- 4:20excited about doing? Because I guess what I see in
- 4:24the evolution of education, that's what we're talking about. What
- 4:27I see in this evolution is you don't have to
- 4:29follow the same path as everybody else. You get to
- 4:33make your own way. We are so able to fine
- 4:36tune the learning for an individual student these days that
- 4:40I think those opportunities are just outstanding. But they're so
- 4:45so open and flexible. Let them explore who they are,
- 4:49become who they can be, but more than that, find
- 4:52something they really really like doing.
- 4:55Speaker 2: Yes, absolutely, you're getting a very essential idea here and
- 5:01we're not going to be the same We're not going
- 5:03to sell it the same things, and that's great. I
- 5:07am very humble to say that you, Keith, are way
- 5:10better at a whole lot of things that I'm not.
- 5:14But at the same at the same time, you know,
- 5:18there's some things I'm better at. But together, look at
- 5:21all the things that we can do together. We might
- 5:23have some basic ideas and basic knowledge of how to
- 5:26do these different things, but it's not our strength. But
- 5:30working together we become that much stronger. And these liberal
- 5:34arts classes gives you those foundational ideas. Not only just
- 5:39get the basic ideas, but to really start to see
- 5:42where you thrive at. What where can you really add
- 5:46the value to your position, your job, your career, your life,
- 5:52and how exciting that is to build on that once
- 5:55you discover that.
- 5:56Speaker 1: Yeah, and because I think one of those things used
- 5:59to be, oh, you're in college algebra. What am I
- 6:02ever going to use this in the real world? Well?
- 6:04I use it all the time. But no matter what
- 6:06that is. When you learn how to solve those problems,
- 6:10when you learn the process for writing a speech or
- 6:14annotating a paper or something like that, those are the
- 6:17skills that you're going to be able to adapt into
- 6:20different jobs and different in different workplace areas. It could
- 6:24be industry, it could be manufacturing, it might be public service,
- 6:28but you're going to be bringing those same skills and
- 6:31that ability to discern the nuggets that you need to
- 6:36pull out of that are just a skill that is
- 6:39so valuable and will pay off so many times over
- 6:42your career. I just really think that that's what gives
- 6:46us a leg up on learning how to learn. You're
- 6:50not doing a one and done colleges in a check
- 6:52mark anymore. It's a process. Start here. You don't have
- 6:56to like doing everything, you don't have to learn it
- 6:59all at once. It's a process. And the people who
- 7:02are going to rule the world in the next generation
- 7:06are the people who know how to adapt to it
- 7:08and build on it and use the tools that are
- 7:10available every day of the week to provide good solutions
- 7:14for themselves, their employers, their families.
- 7:17Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, And when you were talking, it just popped
- 7:21in another fear in my mind that people have. Well,
- 7:24I find this class boring. It's not exciting. College algebra
- 7:28is boring to a lot of people. Citing to some,
- 7:31but it's boring to others. But let me tell you
- 7:33what you said is exactly right. Every class you take
- 7:38teaches you some life lesson that believe in or not
- 7:41will come back in your life and you're going to
- 7:44think like you wouldn't believe that. Thank goodness I took
- 7:48this class. I'll tell you one story from my life.
- 7:51I had to take general logic my last semester of
- 7:55my bachelor's degree yet and I was thinking, Oh my gosh,
- 7:59how boring is this going to be? General logic? That
- 8:02just doesn't sound fun to me. But what I learned
- 8:04in that class I use all the time because it
- 8:07teaches you how people formulate arguments and how they try
- 8:10and convince you of things. And you know how many
- 8:12people I saw through when they're trying to lie to
- 8:15me because I could see the logic that they're trying
- 8:18to use on me. That's a life skill that doesn't
- 8:21stop paying off for me.
- 8:23Speaker 1: Probably save you a lot of aggravation if you haven't
- 8:27cut through that that kind of clutter. But I want
- 8:30to thank thank you for being here again today. I
- 8:32love these subjects. We're talking about how education is changing
- 8:36in the world today and how meaningful the liberal arts
- 8:40really are to providing adaptive skills that can be used
- 8:44no matter what career path you want to get on
- 8:46and when you want to switch those career paths later
- 8:49in Live. So this is a series talking about the
- 8:52adaptability and adaptive intelligence and it's been wonderful to share
- 8:56the day again with you, Doctor Haynes, thank you for
- 8:59being here. I want to thank everybody for listening. We
- 9:02will continue to explore the changing needs of students and
- 9:05their parents and frankly the employers in the world, and
- 9:10how education is changing to meet those needs. This podcast
- 9:15is sponsored by north Central State College and I want
- 9:17to thank all of you for listening today again. I'm
- 9:20Keith Stoner and we look forward to seeing you next time.