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Are Saints Sleeping On Spencer Rattler In QB Competition? | Why New Orleans MUST ADD Veteran QB · AFR Saints

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  Speaker 1: Orleans Saints are on the practice field as they open
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  Speaker 1: up OTAs. For those unindoctrinated OTAs organized team activities, these
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  Speaker 1: are voluntary workouts. Yes, OTAs are voluntary, but let's be honest,
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  Speaker 1: everyone goes, and uh, this is pretty integral. I'm not
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  Speaker 1: sureing to overstate the importance of OTAs. The first round
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  Speaker 1: of OTAs in May. But new coach, new quarterback, a
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  Speaker 1: lot of newness, new defensive coordinator, a lot of newness.
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  Speaker 1: And this is the first time you're gonna have all
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  Speaker 1: your guys, your ninety man roster on the practice field together.
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  Speaker 1: Started to implement a system. You had rookie Minti camp
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  Speaker 1: a couple of saturdays ago, a couple of weekends ago,
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  Speaker 1: but that was just for your rookies and your tryout players.
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  Speaker 1: This is your ninety man roster getting out there, stretching
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  Speaker 1: the legs, doing a little bit of work, and of
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  Speaker 1: course it'll be the first time that all three of
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  Speaker 1: your quarterbacks are out there working together and installing this
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  Speaker 1: new offense. Now, the first media availability for OTAs isn't
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  Speaker 1: until Thursday, so we're not actually gonna see or hear
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  Speaker 1: anything today or Wednesday. Thursday will be the first opportunity
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  Speaker 1: we get to see how things are going. But I
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  Speaker 1: do think it's interesting because we did hear from Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Shuck after rookie mini camp. We heard from Spencer Ratler
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  Speaker 1: Monday at the Saints Hall of Fame golf tournament. Same
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  Speaker 1: time we heard from Kellen Moore and Mickey Loomis, And
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  Speaker 1: it is a bit of a transformative period here at quarterback.
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  Speaker 1: And Kellen Moore was asses or four we could muse
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  Speaker 1: was asked at that Saints golf tournament specifically about his
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  Speaker 1: quarterbacks what he feels like they could take from this
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  Speaker 1: week of OTAs.
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  Speaker 2: I think it's gonna be a lot on the process,
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  Speaker 2: unless on the results. As you go through this phase
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  Speaker 2: just because again there's not much competitiveness. We will do
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  Speaker 2: some seven on seven, but you know, a lot of
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  Speaker 2: it's just there understanding. They're you know, taking the classroom
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  Speaker 2: to the field for the first time, and so you know,
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  Speaker 2: most of the decision making factors obviously will come in
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  Speaker 2: training camp in preseason football, but ain't. This is certainly
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  Speaker 2: a nice little step for them.
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  Speaker 1: I think it's it's a very appropriate way to say it.
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  Speaker 1: Most of the decisions will come later, but it's a
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  Speaker 1: nice step. And as I was kind of putting this
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  Speaker 1: together today, I really we've spent so much time since
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  Speaker 1: the draft talking about Tyler Shuck. Not only the Saints
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  Speaker 1: using the fortieth overall pick on Shuck, as you all know,
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  Speaker 1: the first time they've ever used a second round pick
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  Speaker 1: on a quarterback. Highest they've drafted a quarterback since Archie
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  Speaker 1: Manning back in nineteen seventy one, like all that, you know,
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  Speaker 1: And so we've talked about Schuck. We've talked about his age,
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  Speaker 1: we've talked about his injuries, about his past, we've talked
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  Speaker 1: about his size, We've talked about the decision making, We've
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  Speaker 1: talked about the arm talent. We've had the reaction from
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  Speaker 1: people around the league who like it, people who don't.
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  Speaker 1: The Derek car retirement's not done a lot. We haven't
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  Speaker 1: necessarily talked a lot about Spencer Ratler, and I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was appropriate to do that now because Ratler met
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  Speaker 1: with reporters and he was asked point blank if playing
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  Speaker 1: a year ago, and he played in seven games and
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  Speaker 1: made six starts and we lost them all. But he
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  Speaker 1: didn't make six starts, which makes him the most experienced
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  Speaker 1: quarterback on this roster. We haven't talked a lot about
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  Speaker 1: the Rattler component of this quarterback competition, and Spencer Ratler
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  Speaker 1: did talk about the advantage that he has because of
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  Speaker 1: playing a year ago.
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  Speaker 3: I think it helps a lot, just with the speed
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  Speaker 3: of everything understanding you know what you're going to see
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  Speaker 3: weekend week out, with the prep takes. So I just
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  Speaker 3: want to take that all up to another level and
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  Speaker 3: just keep keep honing my craft and keep getting better.
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  Speaker 1: So I think I'm going to be keeping a close
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  Speaker 1: eye on this, and I'll grant you I like a
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  Speaker 1: lot of people have just assumed that Tyler Shuck's gonna
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  Speaker 1: win this starting and he may. I'm not here to
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  Speaker 1: try to tell you that's not gonna happen. I don't
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  Speaker 1: know what will transpire because there's a long way to
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  Speaker 1: go between now and the season opener, and a week
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  Speaker 1: ago we shared with you the betting odds, and those
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  Speaker 1: betting odds have flipped now to where Tyler Shuck is
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  Speaker 1: a presumptive favorite, prohibited favorite to be the starter week
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  Speaker 1: one since Derek Carr's retirement. Now get all that you
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  Speaker 1: have more invested in it. I mean, you use the
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  Speaker 1: fortieth overall pick on Tyler Shuck. This is the quarterback
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  Speaker 1: that your head coach decided to go sign. But you know,
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  Speaker 1: we've talked a lot about age in this context, Like
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  Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck's twenty five, Like he'll be twenty six in September.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know how old Spencer Ratler is? They gotta
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  Speaker 1: love you if you've looked it up. Spencer Rattler's twenty four,
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  Speaker 1: He'll be twenty five in September. They're literally one year apart,
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  Speaker 1: almost to the day, a year apart. So Spencer Ratler
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  Speaker 1: is an older player too, by virtue of the fact
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  Speaker 1: that he spent a long time in college and now
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  Speaker 1: it has been a year in the pros and it
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  Speaker 1: has six games of starting X experience. The lost man
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  Speaker 1: in this whole thing is Jay Hayner. The big difference.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, you spent a fifth round pick on Rattler
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  Speaker 1: a second round pick on Shuck, so you have more
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  Speaker 1: invested in Shuck. And then the size of the two
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  Speaker 1: is different. Spencer Rattler six feet tall, two hundred and
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  Speaker 1: twenty one pounds. Chuck is six' five two, Nineteen so
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about six foot tall, quarterback six foot five.
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  Speaker 1: Quarterback just think if You're Kellen moore having dealt With
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  Speaker 1: Justin herbert for example In, la a, tall big, quarterback
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  Speaker 1: but he also worked with a six foot quarterback and
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  Speaker 1: won A Super bowl with him a year. Ago that's
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  Speaker 1: also dual, threat very, athletic kind of Like. Rattler so
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  Speaker 1: he's been able to win with both. Stylistically and it's
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  Speaker 1: interesting to me because we're talking about these two guys
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  Speaker 1: and assuming that it's going to be one of these
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  Speaker 1: two guys going in and you, Know Kellen moore was
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  Speaker 1: also asked about not having a veteran quarterback here in the.
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  Speaker 1: Room This this Was Kellen moore On monday about not
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  Speaker 1: having and it was asked if they if they could,
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  Speaker 1: add by the, way a veteran quarterback in the.
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  Speaker 2: Room we'll see how this whole thing. Progresses, obviously you,
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  Speaker 2: know the roster is a very, moving dynamic thing throughout
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  Speaker 2: the whole off season. Process and so right now we feel,
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  Speaker 2: great we feel like we've got some young. Guys we're
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  Speaker 2: excited to just get him on the field and participate
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  Speaker 2: in the candle but mostly be seven on. Seven that
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  Speaker 2: would be the only thing that you, know is full.
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  Speaker 2: Speed that's just the way this thing is structured now
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  Speaker 2: in off season. Programs and so we'll give those guys
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  Speaker 2: a bunch of. Opportunities they'll be excited to see them
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  Speaker 2: get out, there learn, grow you, know make good, plays
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  Speaker 2: miss a, few and you know that's all about this
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  Speaker 2: whole process is.
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  Speaker 1: About, Okay So Kellen moore a little evasive. There he
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  Speaker 1: didn't say they would didn't say they wouldn't add a.
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  Speaker 1: Veteran And i'm getting to a point, HERE i Promise
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  Speaker 1: rattler was asked all so about the dynamic in that
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  Speaker 1: quarterback room and not having a veteran because, remember it's
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  Speaker 1: just shucked the Rookie rattler of the second year Player,
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  Speaker 1: hainar the third year PLAYER.
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  Speaker 3: I think you just keep taking it day by. DAY
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  Speaker 3: i think it's a TIGHT qb room. Already i've Known
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  Speaker 3: chuck for a while now being From, arizona and Obviously hater's,
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  Speaker 3: here so it's a tight knit. Room love the, coaches
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  Speaker 3: love the guys in, there and we're just working right.
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  Speaker 1: NOW i really like that it's a tight knit. Room that's.
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  Speaker 1: Good you'll have guys that will support each, other encourage each.
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  Speaker 1: Other they're all trying to win a, job so they're
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  Speaker 1: competing with each, other but it is good that they
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  Speaker 1: know each. Other But i'm going to continue to throw
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  Speaker 1: this out there As Mickey loomis was evasive when talking
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  Speaker 1: about adding a, veteran as Was Kellen, moore AND i
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  Speaker 1: think they want to see what they have with these.
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  Speaker 1: Guys BUT i do think it is so, important either
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  Speaker 1: via trade or free, agency you wait till roster, cuts
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  Speaker 1: whatever it may, be that you add a, veteran and
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  Speaker 1: not to add a veteran to dramatically increase your odds
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  Speaker 1: of being successful in twenty twenty, five BECAUSE i don't
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  Speaker 1: think this roster is going to be successful in twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Five but that's. Okay i'm already already accepted that maybe
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  Speaker 1: we'll be pleasantly. Surprised BUT i think twenty five is
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  Speaker 1: about building for twenty, six twenty seven and. Beyond AND
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  Speaker 1: i remembered these conversations That Drew brees, had you, know
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  Speaker 1: throughout his, career AND i found one of, them and
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  Speaker 1: this was an Interview Drew brees did forty years, ago
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  Speaker 1: so he'd already, retired but four years ago on The
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  Speaker 1: herd With Colin cowherd And breese talked about remember when
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  Speaker 1: he was drafted Into San, Diego Doug flutey was already
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  Speaker 1: there In San. Diego listen To drew talk About Doug.
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  Speaker 4: Flutie he was such a great. Mentor he was one
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  Speaker 4: of those guys WHO i really feel like did not
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  Speaker 4: get the credit he deserved as a.
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  Speaker 1: Player breeze talked about fluty being a great. Mentor he
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  Speaker 1: went on to talk about the impact fluti had on his.
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  Speaker 4: Career But doug was doing things back then that nobody was.
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  Speaker 4: DOING i. Know, Listen doug flute invented the back shoulder,
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  Speaker 4: throw or at least certainly the term that we use
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  Speaker 4: in regards to the back. Shoulder doug was doing that
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  Speaker 4: before anybody was talking about. It he didn't get credit for.
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  Speaker 4: That Don i'm telling, YOU i KNOW i developed that
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  Speaker 4: skill from being With Doug, flutie and that's a skill
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  Speaker 4: that carried me through my whole. CAREER i don't have
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  Speaker 4: those records you just read off if it wasn't For
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  Speaker 4: Doug flute or the back shoulder. Throw so that's just
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  Speaker 4: one small example of What doug meant to me in
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  Speaker 4: my career and how he was a real pioneer and
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  Speaker 4: he was a real. Trailblazer.
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  Speaker 1: Yil That's Drew brees talking about the Impact DOUG flutei
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  Speaker 1: had on his, career being a, mentor teaching him the
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  Speaker 1: back shoulder, throw all like all those things that he
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  Speaker 1: carried with him his entire. Career you have so much
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  Speaker 1: writing right now On Tyler schuck On Spencer. Ratler, yeah
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  Speaker 1: it is beneficial in the same way that it's beneficial
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  Speaker 1: to Have Cam jordan in the defensive end room for
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  Speaker 1: a rookie defensive, end in the same way that it's
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  Speaker 1: beneficial having De Mario davis in the linebacker room with
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  Speaker 1: a young, linebacker in the same way it's beneficial Having
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  Speaker 1: Tyron matthew in the safety room with a young. Safety
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  Speaker 1: anytime you can put a young player around veterans with
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  Speaker 1: good habits and can teach you how to be a,
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  Speaker 1: pro it's going to help accelerate the learning process and
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  Speaker 1: reduce that curve and make you better long. Term why
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  Speaker 1: would we think quarterbacks should be any. Different So i'll
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  Speaker 1: say it, Again i'm perfectly fine going through OTA's and
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  Speaker 1: giving these guys reps and letting them learn the offense
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  Speaker 1: and all that. Stuff that's, Great but at some point
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  Speaker 1: you got to add a veteran to this. Room and
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  Speaker 1: it's not adding a veteran because it's going to make
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  Speaker 1: you better and win more games in twenty twenty. Five
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  Speaker 1: it's about adding somewhere to that room that can help
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  Speaker 1: mentor these young guys to make them better for twenty,
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  Speaker 1: six twenty seven and. Beyond saints start OTAs here On.
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  Speaker 1: Tuesday we're going to look at Them, thursday when there's media.
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  Speaker 1: Availability will certainly keep you posted how it's going.
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  Speaker 2: Along