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Hollywood shifting right? · Tony Katz | Popcorn Moment

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  Speaker 1: I came across I think this was out of the
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  Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal about No, this wasn't about this. One
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  Speaker 1: was not Wall Street Journal. This was over at News Nation.
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  Speaker 1: Is Hollywood shifting to the right? I thought it was
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  Speaker 1: an interesting question to be asked, because Trump has Hollywood
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  Speaker 1: ambassadors and studios are shelving progressive storylines. Well, let's go
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  Speaker 1: through this as rational people. No, I do not believe
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  Speaker 1: that Hollywood is in.
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  Speaker 2: Any way trending to the right.
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  Speaker 1: I believe these people are as progressive and ridiculous as ever.
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  Speaker 1: I do believe that many of them have at least
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  Speaker 1: accepted that the things that they do to move their
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  Speaker 1: progressive ideology forward doesn't translate to success at a box office.
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  Speaker 2: Right. You can give me all.
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  Speaker 1: The storylines you added this kind of character, and that's
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  Speaker 1: kind of character, and oh they're using these pronouns and
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  Speaker 1: all that. But top gun Maverick is what people want
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  Speaker 1: to see. So the people I don't believe have shifted
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  Speaker 1: in any such direction.
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  Speaker 2: It certainly could be seen.
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  Speaker 1: That there is an acceptance that there might be another
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  Speaker 1: audience out there, and certainly that other audience, which is
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  Speaker 1: an audience that doesn't want to be lectured to. I
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  Speaker 1: don't even know if they're politically right, they just don't
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  Speaker 1: want to be lectured to. They're looking for other content.
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  Speaker 1: And I want to be somebody who helps make that
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  Speaker 1: kind of content. It doesn't have to be some flag
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  Speaker 1: waving thing. It just just stop yelling at us already,
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  Speaker 1: stop being garbage. You know, create good stories, don't create
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  Speaker 1: post stories. Right, That's the that's the story here, And
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  Speaker 1: I want to help people make that content, whether it's
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  Speaker 1: Nick or anybody else. If I can do that, I
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  Speaker 1: want to. That's I think the next step in my
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  Speaker 1: own evolution. So it was an interesting story about whether
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  Speaker 1: or not that's actually happening. And then came this post
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  Speaker 1: from Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report, and it
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  Speaker 1: shows that younger men are shifting to the right. Well,
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  Speaker 1: we've had this conversation. We saw it in the election.
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  Speaker 1: We saw it in the data of where people went.
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  Speaker 1: Certainly the low propensity voter, which is a Trump supporter,
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  Speaker 1: not a Republican supporter, which is why we always discussed
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  Speaker 1: and if you were at the event we did last November,
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  Speaker 1: the Republican Party has a brand issue.
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  Speaker 2: Trump does not. And the brand issue is.
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  Speaker 1: That the Republican Party is not as strong as the
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  Speaker 1: Trump brand, and so these people who voted for Trump
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  Speaker 1: are not necessarily.
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  Speaker 2: People who are going to vote for Republicans.
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  Speaker 1: And we saw this in the senatorial elections in Nevada
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  Speaker 1: and in Michigan and in Wisconsin. But if you take
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  Speaker 1: a look at young men moving to the right, young
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  Speaker 1: women are also having a series of moves. So if
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  Speaker 1: you take a look at leaning right or leaning left,
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  Speaker 1: women lean more to the political left then do men.
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  Speaker 1: We see this time and again and again and again.
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  Speaker 1: So why is it that gen Z women are eleven
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  Speaker 1: points more democratic than gen X women?
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  Speaker 2: What exactly is happening there? How does this come to be?
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  Speaker 1: It's a worthy question about what's happening with girls inside
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  Speaker 1: in in the political sphere.
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  Speaker 2: I think we understand what's happening with guys.
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  Speaker 1: Guys been told they're toxic, and guys been told their sexist,
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  Speaker 1: and guys been told their terror and they're like, we're
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  Speaker 1: not terrible, and go to hell and screw off and
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna do our thing. And there's no such thing
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  Speaker 1: as toxic masculinity. There's masculinity which is a good thing.
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  Speaker 1: Proving this is Molli jong Fast, who I consider to
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  Speaker 1: be what is the.
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  Speaker 2: Word I'm looking for not's bright.
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  Speaker 1: I think she wants to put on the air of intellectualism,
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  Speaker 1: but she has never achieved such a thing. I don't
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  Speaker 1: care if she listens to this. I'm not a fanom unimpressed.
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  Speaker 1: And she is a part of that MSNBC morning show
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  Speaker 1: insanity that used to be, of course, Morning Joe, the
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  Speaker 1: intellectual morning Show, and then they decided that wasn't fun.
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  Speaker 2: Let's have people like Bali Jong fast on.
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  Speaker 1: I do again, I really don't see a strength in
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  Speaker 1: the mind there. And she comes around with this pit,
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  Speaker 1: this bit of a so called political acumen.
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  Speaker 3: He is going to the place where the voters are right.
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  Speaker 3: The only way to get in front of Joe Rogan's
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  Speaker 3: you know, millions, tens of millions and tens and tens
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  Speaker 3: of millions of viewers is to go on his show,
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  Speaker 3: and that I think is so important. The other thing
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  Speaker 3: I would say about Joe Rogan is you'll remember Joe
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  Speaker 3: Rogan endorsed Bernie Sanders in twenty sixteen.
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  Speaker 2: The reason that.
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  Speaker 3: Trump was able to take this ground right, the podcaster
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  Speaker 3: bro landscape, was because Democrats really seated it by not
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  Speaker 3: going on in these spaces, and they made decisions about
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  Speaker 3: why not to go into these spaces that may have
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  Speaker 3: been the right decisions at the time, but now are
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  Speaker 3: clearly not how to run for office. You can't get
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  Speaker 3: in front of these voters any other way, but going
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  Speaker 3: on these podcasts, and maybe they're not, maybe you don't
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  Speaker 3: endorse all of their theories and all of their beliefs,
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  Speaker 3: you still have to go there because that's where the
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  Speaker 3: voters are.
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  Speaker 1: So the voters are all listening to people who don't
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  Speaker 1: believe in toxic masculinary, who don't believe in pronouns.
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  Speaker 2: They're all all the voters are going to people.
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  Speaker 1: Where the conversations are honest and they are not made
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  Speaker 1: to feel terrible about themselves. Well, that should tell you something,
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  Speaker 1: That should teach you something. Why is the voter there?
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  Speaker 1: And if the voter is there, why does the left
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  Speaker 1: continue to hate these people and attack these people and
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  Speaker 1: to mean these people and insult these people. What's the win?
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  Speaker 1: What's the value? Can't you just be you and not
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  Speaker 1: insult these people? So does Hollywood? Has Hollywood moved right? Absolutely?
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  Speaker 3: Not?
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  Speaker 1: Are there some in Hollywood who aren't interested in insulting
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  Speaker 1: those other guys?
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  Speaker 2: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: And maybe that's how you still get some worthwhile movies made.
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  Speaker 2: But there's nothing about the.
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  Speaker 1: Democratic Party that has shown that they have shifted to
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  Speaker 1: some level of rationality, nor that they actually want to
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  Speaker 1: go about reaching the voter that listens to Rogan or
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  Speaker 1: anybody like that. They would rather shut that guy down
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  Speaker 1: so that they might go on the podcast. That's not
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  Speaker 1: the way to get the voter. The way you get
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  Speaker 1: the voter is to have a message.
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  Speaker 2: That resonates with the voter. But at least maybe I
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  Speaker 2: should give her credit.
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  Speaker 1: It's a recognition of where the voters are, and they
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  Speaker 1: sure as hell ain't with Pod Save America.
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  Speaker 2: Sorry, Tommy V. Tour, that's you. You're not the alpha
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  Speaker 2: these guys are looking for.