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25W: Big Pickleball Update on Bobby vs. Guy in Ohio +  Best Dunkers in NBA history + Grant McCasland on Patrick Mahomes Coming to their Game · 25 Whistles with Bobby Bones (A Football Podcast)

• 0:04
  Speaker 1: A podcast call twenty five whist stuck and they go
• 0:09
  Speaker 1: wearing a whist So, yeah, it's too bad, but what
• 0:12
  Speaker 1: did you expect? It's a podcast call twenty five whistles.
• 0:19
  Speaker 2: Blow the whistle? Do we ever keep track of how
• 0:21
  Speaker 2: many episodes we're in? Mike? Do we do that anymore?
• 0:24
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 0:24
  Speaker 2: One million, eighty two this season?
• 0:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 5: Thank good for us.
• 0:31
  Speaker 2: Where's the money was rolling in? Like we've done a bunch, No.
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  Speaker 4: Eighty two that's a lot.
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  Speaker 5: Hey guys, yeah, everybody out there listening. If you listen
• 0:37
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  Speaker 5: and then uh, if you don't mind, give us a
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  Speaker 5: review and then anything like that would be great.
• 0:44
  Speaker 4: Then tell your friends right, like, oh I listen to
• 0:46
  Speaker 4: this podcast, you should too?
• 0:47
  Speaker 3: Host it man?
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah please yeah, drop it into the group text.
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah please guys, like, wait, I'll be honest, we need
• 0:53
  Speaker 2: to help. So yeah, thank you all for listening. I
• 0:56
  Speaker 2: do have an update if you're ready for an update,
• 0:58
  Speaker 2: I'm ready for an update on pick a ball situation.
• 1:01
  Speaker 2: Oh for those that are new, I post a video
• 1:05
  Speaker 2: on me just hitting a pickle ball and some troll
• 1:07
  Speaker 2: jumps up and goes you suck. I can tell you
• 1:09
  Speaker 2: suck because you didn't come up to the net, and
• 1:11
  Speaker 2: I'm like, bro. Then playing a tournament, it was like
• 1:13
  Speaker 2: the first day back after winter, and so I'm like,
• 1:15
  Speaker 2: let's go, let's play the game. Me and you thousand bucks.
• 1:17
  Speaker 2: All did was challenge the troll and apparently he's a
• 1:20
  Speaker 2: four year D one athlete and.
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  Speaker 4: Whatever, I hear you.
• 1:25
  Speaker 2: Whatever, I'm willing to go against a four year D
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  Speaker 2: one athlete.
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  Speaker 4: Just to try to fight a troll boom.
• 1:29
  Speaker 2: Because I don't like people to jump in with negativity
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  Speaker 2: for no reason. And I understand I'd probably the underdog
• 1:33
  Speaker 2: in this situation, but I don't care. And he's like,
• 1:35
  Speaker 2: here's my home court. But here's the thing. I said.
• 1:37
  Speaker 2: We'll play for money, but I don't want to get scammed.
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  Speaker 2: I've been scammed more than once with money doing content
• 1:43
  Speaker 2: where I'm like, here's five hundred bucks and then it's
• 1:47
  Speaker 2: the wrong doesn't matter. How do I get the money
• 1:53
  Speaker 2: to somewhere and he gets the money to somewhere, Like
• 1:56
  Speaker 2: who's the somewhere?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's interesting because I do.
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  Speaker 2: Not want to get scammed. And I'm also just not
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  Speaker 2: gonna believe somebody because if we go up there we
• 2:05
  Speaker 2: go up there, or the underdogs all good, we take
• 2:08
  Speaker 2: the whole crew, we shoot it. I stand. I've never
• 2:11
  Speaker 2: said this. I stun a business. I know, I've never
• 2:14
  Speaker 2: actually said that. I don't know how I felt, but
• 2:17
  Speaker 2: I tried it. I don't want to go in and
• 2:20
  Speaker 2: be like, I'm not giving you the money.
• 2:22
  Speaker 4: So if you do like a Venmo account, right, it
• 2:26
  Speaker 4: doesn't matter whose it is. You have a Venmo account.
• 2:29
  Speaker 4: It shows that the money is in there, right it does.
• 2:32
  Speaker 2: But who gets to know the person that has the
• 2:35
  Speaker 2: Venmo account? Because if I were him, I wouldn't trust.
• 2:38
  Speaker 2: If I'm like, just send me the thousand bucks and
• 2:40
  Speaker 2: I'll hold it or one of my boys will hold it.
• 2:43
  Speaker 2: I don't know that I would trust that. And if
• 2:44
  Speaker 2: he did the same thing, like send it here or
• 2:47
  Speaker 2: send it to something I have access to, that's me
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  Speaker 2: getting scammed.
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  Speaker 4: And then can we trust going all the way to Cleveland.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: It's somewhere in Ohio? I think it's So.
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  Speaker 4: We go all the way to Ohio and he doesn't
• 2:57
  Speaker 4: show up. Like, that's not good either, right, So we
• 2:59
  Speaker 4: need to have the money, but for anyone travels anywhere, correct.
• 3:01
  Speaker 2: So here's the challenge, because I want to do this,
• 3:05
  Speaker 2: and to me, it doesn't matter. It's not about winning
• 3:09
  Speaker 2: or losing. I want to win for sure, and I
• 3:10
  Speaker 2: want to win the money. But it's mostly like if
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  Speaker 2: people are gonnatrol, they should be called out for it. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I want to do it. I just need to do
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  Speaker 2: it in a way that it's safe to put my
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  Speaker 2: money somewhere. So think about this. This is going to
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  Speaker 2: be the challenge or if you're listening and you know
• 3:24
  Speaker 2: how we could do this because he's like, let's go,
• 3:28
  Speaker 2: but I haven't responded yet because I don't know how
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  Speaker 2: to do this without getting possibly scammed.
• 3:32
  Speaker 3: You couldn't do like the half and half? Right, five
• 3:35
  Speaker 3: hundred isn't it enough?
• 3:36
  Speaker 2: Where does it go?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's another I'm just yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I don't We both would have to do that. But
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  Speaker 2: it's the same point. It's like, well, who's holding it,
• 3:44
  Speaker 2: and whoever's holding it if they're connected to one of
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  Speaker 2: the two sides. I know we're trustworthy, but he doesn't
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  Speaker 2: know that. And I don't even know who he is.
• 3:53
  Speaker 2: I don't even know his name.
• 3:54
  Speaker 4: You know what he looks like.
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  Speaker 2: I have no idea what he looks like. I probably
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  Speaker 2: don't want to know I probably intimidated as a four
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  Speaker 2: year D one athlete, but I'm not scared to go
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  Speaker 2: and play. I just don't want to get scammed. So
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  Speaker 2: think about that, and if any listeners out there you
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  Speaker 2: want to send me a DM at mister Bobby Bones
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  Speaker 2: and let me know what we could do, that's awesome too.
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  Speaker 2: But I also have to think about him going, I'm
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  Speaker 2: not putting my money somewhere I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, so I mean you could go old school and
• 4:17
  Speaker 6: both get a money order and like send a picture
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  Speaker 6: of the money order to the other person to prove
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  Speaker 6: that it's that it's set.
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  Speaker 2: But I think if I were trying, okay, then I
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  Speaker 2: don't even know what a money order is. Then I
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  Speaker 2: try to scam it myself. Then I go, okay, I
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  Speaker 2: took a picture, and then I would just go and
• 4:30
  Speaker 2: take it back, right because if I'm putting it in
• 4:35
  Speaker 2: his name, but he may never get it. If I win,
• 4:38
  Speaker 2: he's not getting it.
• 4:39
  Speaker 4: It's true. I wish my dad was still alive.
• 4:42
  Speaker 2: Man.
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  Speaker 4: He used to deal with people from Mexico that was
• 4:44
  Speaker 4: always like this was always the conversation, like how do
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  Speaker 4: I get money?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we would do money orders.
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  Speaker 4: That's what we would do.
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  Speaker 2: So that's where we are think about it. That's number
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  Speaker 2: one here on the list. Number two. I do want
• 4:54
  Speaker 2: to talk about the toush push for a second. Oh
• 4:56
  Speaker 2: come on, do you think they should eliminate the tush
• 4:59
  Speaker 2: push before we get into what the teams? And again,
• 5:03
  Speaker 2: we're recording this on Thursdays, so when it comes out
• 5:05
  Speaker 2: on Friday there, I don't think they have voted by then.
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  Speaker 2: M No.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's just a lot of talk during the
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  Speaker 3: combine stover look.
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  Speaker 4: At the media, and I think is like in a
• 5:13
  Speaker 4: couple of weeks, okay, great, first the tush push.
• 5:17
  Speaker 2: Should it be banned Eddie?
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  Speaker 4: No way, Jose. You do not punish a team or
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  Speaker 4: a coach for coming up with this amazing play that
• 5:28
  Speaker 4: is pretty much unstoppable. I think it's awesome and there's
• 5:31
  Speaker 4: no excuse like it's a safety issue. It wasn't a
• 5:35
  Speaker 4: safety issue, Like, come on, football is a safety issue.
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  Speaker 4: The tush push is awesome, it's genius, and it should
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  Speaker 4: remain the way it is.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks soccrates. Football is a safety issue. You got it
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  Speaker 2: going athens like preaching.
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  Speaker 4: Out of here. You hate it because you can't stop it.
• 5:53
  Speaker 4: Now it is frustrating. I get it. We've been on
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  Speaker 4: the other side of the toush push. It's frustrating. But
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  Speaker 4: as I don't know, man, they just somebody came up
• 6:00
  Speaker 4: with a great idea and it works.
• 6:02
  Speaker 2: Kevin, I say, no, let's not get wishy washing.
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  Speaker 3: Go ahead, but maybe we could tweak it. Okay, So
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  Speaker 3: what about tweaking it? Like they've lined everybody up on
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  Speaker 3: the line, they have two guys behind them to push them.
• 6:16
  Speaker 3: You're only allowed one guy behind them, and then another
• 6:19
  Speaker 3: guy's got to go out as wide receiver. Okay, So
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  Speaker 3: you got to tweak the alignment okay, and the formation
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  Speaker 3: a little bit to maybe give a little less advantage.
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  Speaker 3: So it makes every other team happy and still makes
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  Speaker 3: Eagles like Okay, we could still do it with a
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  Speaker 3: little tweak.
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  Speaker 2: Here can ask a question about that. Yeah, do we
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  Speaker 2: really think that two people pushing effects it more than
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  Speaker 2: one person?
• 6:39
  Speaker 3: No, but it's still making this GM happy and the
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  Speaker 3: other around the league happy and making everybody happy.
• 6:44
  Speaker 2: Yours is more of a diplomatic give than something that
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  Speaker 2: would actually change the toush push.
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  Speaker 4: Okay.
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  Speaker 2: I'm with you, Yeah, and I agree with both of you,
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  Speaker 2: and that the Eagles kind of discovered it. Sure did
• 6:57
  Speaker 2: their thing, and everybody else is just mad because they
• 6:58
  Speaker 2: can't do the thing. And people have tried. Buffalo, I
• 7:01
  Speaker 2: think was number two. They did it far less, but
• 7:02
  Speaker 2: Buffalo was number two. But then playoff Buffalo couldn'tven get
• 7:04
  Speaker 2: it to work five times. I think it's didn't even
• 7:07
  Speaker 2: get at the work. So I'll give you my answer.
• 7:09
  Speaker 2: I'll read you the story first from ESPN. The mystery
• 7:12
  Speaker 2: team proposing a ban of the Eagles Push Push is
• 7:15
  Speaker 2: the Packers, which, by the way, they don't even play them,
• 7:19
  Speaker 2: I mean once maybe. I mean imagine if you're also
• 7:21
  Speaker 2: over in the NFC East, you have to play him twice.
• 7:24
  Speaker 2: But the NFL's EVP of Football Operations, Troy Vincent, initially
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  Speaker 2: chose not to identify the team, but Packers GM Brian
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  Speaker 2: Guda Kuntz later owned it. At the NFL Combine, he
• 7:35
  Speaker 2: admitted the Packers quote hadn't been very successful against it,
• 7:38
  Speaker 2: and he expects quote a lot of discussions about it.
• 7:40
  Speaker 2: One of those discussions might be that teams should figure
• 7:42
  Speaker 2: out how to defend it instead of outright banning it,
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  Speaker 2: a move that Eagles coach Nick Sirianne says would be
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  Speaker 2: unfair to his team from again ESPN, I'm gonna say
• 7:50
  Speaker 2: ban it. Ooh, and not for the reasons that you
• 7:52
  Speaker 2: guys say, because I agree with both of you, Like
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  Speaker 2: the Eagles came up with something nobody can stop it.
• 7:58
  Speaker 2: You got it, buddy. It's terribly boring for television, and
• 8:01
  Speaker 2: I'm always a this is a television show because that's
• 8:06
  Speaker 2: where the money is product first, So if you were
• 8:09
  Speaker 2: just playing it wasn't on TV.
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  Speaker 4: Great.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think the Eagles cheated. I think it's a
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  Speaker 2: great idea, but it's boring to watch because there really
• 8:16
  Speaker 2: is no drama on a fourth and one when the
• 8:18
  Speaker 2: Eagles have the ball. So I think it was wildly smart.
• 8:24
  Speaker 2: But if I'm only speaking selfishly and as a network
• 8:28
  Speaker 2: executive or as the NFL that cares about television, I
• 8:31
  Speaker 2: probably am not allowing it unless there are certain things
• 8:34
  Speaker 2: like you can only tush push inside the five, like
• 8:37
  Speaker 2: I think there are modifications that you can make the
• 8:40
  Speaker 2: tush push inside the five, or you get two tush
• 8:43
  Speaker 2: pushes a game like challenges like in my Madden League
• 8:48
  Speaker 2: that we play in because the quarterback sneak it's kind
• 8:52
  Speaker 2: of a glitch where you can get it to work
• 8:53
  Speaker 2: almost every time for two yards. It's not even the tushpush.
• 8:56
  Speaker 2: You just quarterback sneak. You know you're gonna get two yards.
• 9:00
  Speaker 2: We can only quarterbacks sneak twice a game in a
• 9:03
  Speaker 2: user game we're playing another player. If we're playing the computer,
• 9:06
  Speaker 2: we do it all day. But we can only quarterbacks
• 9:08
  Speaker 2: sneak twice a game because it's a bit of a glitch.
• 9:10
  Speaker 2: But I would say the Eagles toushbush is a bit
• 9:11
  Speaker 2: of a glitch. They figured it out. So for television
• 9:15
  Speaker 2: reasons only, I don't like the toush push being able
• 9:20
  Speaker 2: to be done on the thirty eight yard line and
• 9:22
  Speaker 2: six times in a game. So I'm gonna say no
• 9:26
  Speaker 2: toush push. Oh but we want to touch push. We're
• 9:28
  Speaker 2: being okay, let's compromise. You get to a game, that's it,
• 9:31
  Speaker 2: or tushbush all you want inside the five.
• 9:34
  Speaker 3: Dang, that's such a better compromise of money.
• 9:37
  Speaker 2: But if I'm not compromising, I'm just going no tush
• 9:39
  Speaker 2: push for television reasons because admit it's boring.
• 9:42
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's boring. But you know what's not boring
• 9:45
  Speaker 4: is when a team hires a physics professor to figure
• 9:49
  Speaker 4: out the physics of how to stop something like this,
• 9:52
  Speaker 4: and they actually stop it.
• 9:53
  Speaker 2: That's boring. If somebody's hiring a physics the football, that's boring, dude.
• 9:56
  Speaker 4: But if they stop it, all right.
• 9:58
  Speaker 2: But they can't, nobody can.
• 10:00
  Speaker 4: Persistently, somebody is going to figure out how to stop it.
• 10:02
  Speaker 2: I don't think it's a physics thing. I don't think so, no,
• 10:05
  Speaker 2: because I think it's a quarterback that has very strong
• 10:08
  Speaker 2: legs and a center that has a very strong butt,
• 10:14
  Speaker 2: and players that have now run it and know how
• 10:16
  Speaker 2: to do it and not be injured. I don't think
• 10:18
  Speaker 2: it's a physics thing.
• 10:18
  Speaker 4: Then maybe, like you get all of your linemen on
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: your team, backups and everything, and forget the secondary whenever
• 10:25
  Speaker 4: they show toush push, Your biggest men on the field.
• 10:28
  Speaker 2: Can't do that unless you're substitute. Like they can't substitute
• 10:32
  Speaker 2: on defense unless the offense substitutes.
• 10:34
  Speaker 4: Really didn't know that I changed that, then.
• 10:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah's that rule. I think it's hilarious. I love the
• 10:41
  Speaker 2: toush push if it's my team, So I don't thinkre's
• 10:43
  Speaker 2: anything wrong with it. But I I'm bored by it.
• 10:46
  Speaker 2: And so the NFL does not want people to be
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: bored by anything, which is why they protect their quarterbacks.
• 10:52
  Speaker 3: Sure, it is a matter of time. You would think
• 10:55
  Speaker 3: that what they ban it?
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: And it well, and remember two years ago, you couldn't
• 10:59
  Speaker 2: use your hands or your body to influence anybody going forward. Yeah,
• 11:03
  Speaker 2: you could push them, grab them, you couldn't pull. That
• 11:06
  Speaker 2: was a rule. It's not as much anymore because the
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: toush push is just that everybody leaning in and maybe
• 11:10
  Speaker 2: you just do tush push, but there's nobody pushing the tush.
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: It's just a quarterback sneak. But then it's just a
• 11:13
  Speaker 2: quarterback sneak. Yeah, so there's only no tush in the push.
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: But I'm gonna go ban it because I'm bored by it.
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: Next up Gronk maybe coming back to the NFL.
• 11:25
  Speaker 4: No stop it. He can't. He looks like.
• 11:28
  Speaker 3: He sees Travis Kelsey's like I can do.
• 11:30
  Speaker 4: He looks like broken down RoboCop, like his last season
• 11:34
  Speaker 4: with the Bucks, like he just it looked like if
• 11:37
  Speaker 4: he got hit hard, he was not gonna get back up.
• 11:40
  Speaker 3: He always looked like that though when he was younger.
• 11:43
  Speaker 2: He's only thirty five. Well, yeah, that's great, and that's
• 11:46
  Speaker 2: on the older end, but it's not like he's forty
• 11:48
  Speaker 2: three and he is a monster. A new report suggests
• 11:51
  Speaker 2: that future Hall of Fame tied end Rob Gronkowski may
• 11:54
  Speaker 2: not yet be done. The four time Super Bowl champion
• 11:57
  Speaker 2: is working out in Vail, Colorado, and his contempl retiring
• 12:01
  Speaker 2: from retirement. These same sources say that Gronk has liked
• 12:06
  Speaker 2: what he's seen from Broncos quarterback Bo Nicks, and also
• 12:10
  Speaker 2: the Bengals are one of the teams they think he
• 12:12
  Speaker 2: could go to. Interesting, He's not gonna go to the Patriots.
• 12:14
  Speaker 2: He's not gonna go to the Bucks. He went to
• 12:16
  Speaker 2: the Bucks for Brady's not going to the Patriots cause
• 12:17
  Speaker 2: they suck. If you're Gronk and you're gonna go play,
• 12:19
  Speaker 2: you're gonna go play at somebody who gives you a
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: chance to win a champion championship. So that would be fun.
• 12:27
  Speaker 2: I think that would be extremely hard for him to do,
• 12:29
  Speaker 2: being out of the league for so long. Yeah, when
• 12:31
  Speaker 2: you're known for being such a physical player, it's probably
• 12:36
  Speaker 2: hard to jump back in and be as physical. Because
• 12:38
  Speaker 2: it wasn't like he was known for his precision.
• 12:41
  Speaker 3: No did his body. I mean it took a toll
• 12:46
  Speaker 3: towards the end was like one hit will be like, Okay,
• 12:49
  Speaker 3: I'm good on this.
• 12:50
  Speaker 2: Actually I don't know, dude, he's huge.
• 12:52
  Speaker 3: He is a monster.
• 12:53
  Speaker 4: You met him? No, did we see him at the
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: super Bowl? He was there at Radio Row, but I
• 13:01
  Speaker 4: don't know any of us ever saw him. I never
• 13:02
  Speaker 4: saw him, because I did see videos later that he
• 13:04
  Speaker 4: was there.
• 13:05
  Speaker 2: Okay, so you're saying you didn't seehim a person, you
• 13:07
  Speaker 2: just knew he was in the same place three points
• 13:08
  Speaker 2: because I was saying, is he mass. I have a
• 13:10
  Speaker 2: really good friend that's really good friends with them, and
• 13:13
  Speaker 2: a couple of times he's been like are you here,
• 13:14
  Speaker 2: I'm here with Gronk and like I want to talk
• 13:16
  Speaker 2: to gronk sister. Once for a birthday random.
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: I sent her a video Yeah, like cameo or my.
• 13:24
  Speaker 2: Friend that's friends with Gronk was like, hey, Gronk's sister
• 13:26
  Speaker 2: is here. He doesn't call him, Gronk tells him Rob Basically,
• 13:30
  Speaker 2: he's like, gronk sister is here. She's a big fan
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: of her birthday we're doing. Would you sent her a
• 13:33
  Speaker 2: video saying happy birthday? So I just sent him a
• 13:35
  Speaker 2: video of me going hey, Gronk sister wasn't her name,
• 13:37
  Speaker 2: but yeah.
• 13:37
  Speaker 4: That's awesome.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: I know it's not the same. But we saw Jimmy Graham.
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: Oh he was at the stage right next to us
• 13:43
  Speaker 3: at one point. He was tall and just like.
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: Yeah, when when you when those guys look big on
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: the field, you know they're just ginormous.
• 13:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, because they're up against other big people. Like
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: when I met Eli Manning years ago. Eli Manning doesn't
• 13:57
  Speaker 2: look big on the field. Eli Manning as a monster,
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: And that's just being even with those people. When someone
• 14:03
  Speaker 2: it's a great point when someone looks big, even on
• 14:05
  Speaker 2: the field, they're huge. I was blown away by the
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Rams offensive lineman he came on the show. Yeah, Andrew Whitworth,
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: blown away with how massive he was. He's basketball player height,
• 14:19
  Speaker 2: professional basketball player height. And then offensive lineman waight, Yeah,
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you get around that.
• 14:24
  Speaker 3: And Cam Hayward he was a monster. Yeah, I knew
• 14:27
  Speaker 3: was scary looking.
• 14:28
  Speaker 4: Do you remember him.
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: I do remember him, because I don't know he was
• 14:30
  Speaker 2: at first, but I would say he was scary looking
• 14:33
  Speaker 2: in that he was big, and oh my god, she
• 14:36
  Speaker 2: was huge, angry. Yeah, but he I don't think he
• 14:40
  Speaker 2: was like Wentworth's size, because I don't think he was
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: as tall.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: No, no, he's not as tall as Whitworth. Whitworth was
• 14:46
  Speaker 4: like you can see him in a sea of people
• 14:47
  Speaker 4: and his head is above everyone else.
• 14:49
  Speaker 2: He okay, get this, he's three hundred and thirty one pounds.
• 14:55
  Speaker 4: Boy.
• 14:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then six seven to he's got to be
• 15:00
  Speaker 2: at least yeah, he's got he's six seven six seven
• 15:04
  Speaker 2: three point thirty. That's like Gladiator. That's like back in
• 15:07
  Speaker 2: the day, he'd been in the middle of the coliseum,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: like fighting people because he's so big. Huh yeah wild.
• 15:14
  Speaker 2: They ranked the best dunkers in NBA history. Now I've
• 15:18
  Speaker 2: seen the list, so unfair, but I think I can do.
• 15:22
  Speaker 2: Had I not seen the list, I can give you
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: a rough overview who I said. I have been wrong
• 15:25
  Speaker 2: on some of them because I would have only been
• 15:26
  Speaker 2: going from slam dunk contests from being a kid, so
• 15:30
  Speaker 2: I would have picked people like Spud Weeb. He won
• 15:33
  Speaker 2: it in like eighty four, I think, and he was
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: five foot six and he wasn't the best dunker, but
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: the fact that someone that small could dunk, which I
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: thought was crazy, Like I would have thought of Spud
• 15:42
  Speaker 2: web just some of the dunk contest winners I think about,
• 15:45
  Speaker 2: like d Brown, he did the look into the arm Celtics.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that was like in a big Sports illustrated
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: fold out like that was cool. But he wasn't like
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: a crazy good NBA player that was dunking all the
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: time in games. I would have picked Dominique Wilkins because
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: how angry he was when he dunked in games. And
• 16:00
  Speaker 2: it slam dunk contest obviously. I had to pick Michael
• 16:03
  Speaker 2: Jordan just because he has very famous dunks and he
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: dunked a lot, but he has some really famous and
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: his logo is a dunk.
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Yes, it is the Jumpman's a dunk.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: No, right, that picture didn't come from him dunking.
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but Hugh did it at some point I remember,
• 16:21
  Speaker 4: like maybe he recreated or something, maybe during a slam
• 16:24
  Speaker 4: dunk contest, but he did do the but the picture
• 16:27
  Speaker 4: was first Yeah, I bet you're right about that.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: And the picture was not him dunking. It was just
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: like him jumping. Yeah, something weird, like it wasn't even
• 16:36
  Speaker 2: yet Mike, would you mind looking that up?
• 16:39
  Speaker 4: Or or could it be a celebration, like you know
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: how you jump up and fist pumping.
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: I feel like it was something contrived and set up,
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: but it wasn't a dunk Michael find it. Oh we'll
• 16:51
  Speaker 2: mention a minute. So that had been who had to
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: put on the list, and of that I would have
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: only gotten Jordan and Dominique. So when I say best
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: dunkers of all time five, six, seven, eight, remember they
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: didn't even dunk until like forty years ago, like in
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: the early black and white days. He had a couple
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: and that was like crazy. It was all like white
• 17:15
  Speaker 2: guy plumbers and you know they weren't dunking. But who
• 17:17
  Speaker 2: comes to you guys's mind, is this one's one I
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: should have got?
• 17:20
  Speaker 7: Yeah?
• 17:21
  Speaker 2: Uh have you seen the list?
• 17:22
  Speaker 7: No?
• 17:22
  Speaker 4: I haven't.
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: The first person that pops in my mind who wanted
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: me to go yeah, Vince Carter.
• 17:26
  Speaker 2: That's exactly who I saw. Was like, how did I
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: miss Vince Carter?
• 17:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: And then because Vince Carter dunked all the time on
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: everybody big or small, and he.
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: Had like the greatest dunk contest of all time. Yeah yeah,
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: in my memory.
• 17:38
  Speaker 4: At least more than better than mclung.
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: I mean there's no car.
• 17:41
  Speaker 4: Involved, there was no.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: Three pt Mike what'd you find. Yeah, it was just
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: during a photo shoot. He just jumped up in a
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: photo show.
• 17:49
  Speaker 6: And they were taking a picture and he's like, I'm
• 17:50
  Speaker 6: gonna do a ballet move and that's what it was.
• 17:54
  Speaker 2: Good, fine, good, fine, good fine, Okay. Vince Carter on
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: the list. Sean Kemp, great call, did make the list.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: Hard dunker like that Mother Africa dunks with Sean Eddie.
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: Uh, Mailman karme alone.
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah he could he mean he could dunk.
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I remember I had a poster where he was
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: dunk in this cier is not.
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: Not on not on the list. List is bro Bible
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: on a bunch people that had contributed to it not
• 18:22
  Speaker 2: saying you're wrong, Hey he could dunk.
• 18:23
  Speaker 4: Man, he could dunk, you know.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: Sorry, go ahead.
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: Another one.
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking kind of underrated in his game because he's
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: such a great player. But Kobe Bryant could dunk. Hey,
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: there's down some good ones.
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Kobe did not make the list. Uh, this is
• 18:36
  Speaker 2: one that I should have thought of and didn't because
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: it's recent enough to play Griffin.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, a lot of city, yes, him and Chris Paul. Yeah,
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: it was nasty.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Yes, it was all dunked, all time. Yeah, like I
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: would have missed that one and then I would have
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: hated myself for it. Okay, anybody else?
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: How many do we have?
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: Left a lot too? And I'll say this, one of
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: them still plays. Two of them are in our lifetime
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: of watching basketball, and one is not so go old
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: old school, old old. We never watched your Jay, correct,
• 19:11
  Speaker 2: Julia Servin, that's good, Kevin three left one one plays
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: right now, John Marin. Oh, that's a good one though,
• 19:26
  Speaker 2: because that dude flies out of everywhere. He's so fast
• 19:29
  Speaker 2: and he dunks on people all sizes.
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Russell Westburg go more more famous, way more famous? Oh, Lebron, Yes, yeah.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: We're so dumb.
• 19:46
  Speaker 3: We're thinking too much.
• 19:47
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: The other two, I don't think you're going to get
• 19:50
  Speaker 2: just by guessing. I'll say one of them a very
• 19:53
  Speaker 2: famous Phoenix son, not Charles Barkley, a very famous Phoenix son.
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: We saw and Nick and Nick maristmar yes, Maricenemer he
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: was awesome. Yeah, he was awesome. And the other one
• 20:05
  Speaker 2: Jason Richardson, Oh yeah, Jay.
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: Richards Oh you know Richard did he played for Golden State.
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: He was bouncing, he bounced around Golden State, was I
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: wondered who he thought, who you saw him playing with,
• 20:16
  Speaker 2: because I thought Golden State too.
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I affiliated. But I know he bounced around.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, cool, everybody feel good about that. Yeah, we got
• 20:29
  Speaker 2: a guest coming up in a second. We like talking
• 20:31
  Speaker 2: college basketball, and he's been losing a lot of money
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: in college basketball.
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: Actually, I made some good money on Florida the other
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: night that Florida was down. Uh, they were playing Georgia,
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: which George is a little sneaky team.
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: Man, Georgia. Yeah, but they kind of sucked, but they Okay,
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: Sneaky's a good point because they can't win a game.
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: But they're not gonna win a lot of games.
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: There are a handfuls of sneaky teams, which I love.
• 20:51
  Speaker 4: At this time of the year, I'm like starting to
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: collect my little notes.
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: Of like, watch they're not making the tournament though, well Georgia, but.
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: Just because they're in the SEC. Probably, But you know,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: like Texas A and M. Sneaky team, good sneaky team.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: I next this A and M.
• 21:05
  Speaker 2: They don't play offense. I mean they do, they have to,
• 21:07
  Speaker 2: but they beat people up defensively where that hurts you
• 21:11
  Speaker 2: in the tournament though, is if you can't play offense. Yeah,
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: and the refs are very consistent in the tournament because
• 21:18
  Speaker 2: they are great at every game to see if they
• 21:21
  Speaker 2: get to move on to the next game. So there's
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: no hey, we're going to play it this way tonight,
• 21:24
  Speaker 2: which kind of happens around the country in different leagues
• 21:27
  Speaker 2: and by different refs. They know they're getting great to
• 21:29
  Speaker 2: go to the next game. So if you're a great
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: defensive team, that helps. But if you have no offense
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: at times because of how they're calling the game, you
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: can really get yourself in trouble. I've watched too much SEC.
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: I can like break down all the times. I'm sorry interrupt,
• 21:39
  Speaker 2: I'm ahead, No, it's good.
• 21:40
  Speaker 4: But anyway, Florida was playing Georgia and they were down
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: by twenty points. So I was like, come on, this
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: cannot in this way. So I got them at plus ten,
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: plus eight, plus five. It was one of those games
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: you know where I'm like, I gotta just keep going,
• 21:52
  Speaker 4: keep going, keep going. And they lost by four points.
• 21:55
  Speaker 2: So you hit that.
• 21:56
  Speaker 4: I hit all three of them. I'm like, let's go.
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: By ribbon to something on Instagram that I wanted to
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: bring up and that's how I save a lot of
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: my stuff. Now is I ribbon it?
• 22:05
  Speaker 7: Mike?
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: How do I find my ribbons? Instagram has changed.
• 22:09
  Speaker 6: Should be able to go to your bookmarks and your profile?
• 22:11
  Speaker 4: Oh was that what? The ribbon is a bookmark? That
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: makes sense?
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know what he was talking about.
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: The first the three.
• 22:17
  Speaker 6: Dots on the side on the top right of your profile.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: I so the three slashes, now, yeah, the slashes. Okay,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: settings and activity. We're gonna do this together, and you
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: should see the saved boom, got it? Thank you? That's
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: where it is.
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: What are you looking for?
• 22:30
  Speaker 2: I had saved this thing that DraftKings had done. It
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: was AI predicts where these free agents will end up.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: So number one, T Higgins. This is AI that that predicted.
• 22:42
  Speaker 2: They typed all this crap in and gave all the scenarios. Uh,
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: T Higgins to the Carolina Panthers. But that'd be about money, right,
• 22:52
  Speaker 2: because if the Bengals don't because they have Burrow, they're
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: paying him a ton. They have three other players and
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: that's four they're going to do four with basically max contracts,
• 23:04
  Speaker 2: two wide receivers obviously one edge and they said they
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: may have to with Higgins do the one year franchise,
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: franchise tag him and he doesn't want to be tagged,
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: So they say the Panthers Digs to the.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Cowboys Stefan with a B.
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: That'd be cool, that would together, that would be cool.
• 23:26
  Speaker 4: This is a I too, by the way.
• 23:27
  Speaker 2: They Cooper Cup to the Chargers. That'd be easy. Yeah,
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: stay done, you got to move stays there, Amari Cooper
• 23:33
  Speaker 2: to the Ravens. They could use him. Yeah, I feel
• 23:37
  Speaker 2: like he'd be better though there too, because the Cowboys suck.
• 23:40
  Speaker 4: He wasn't with the Cowboys.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: He was with when he was though. Yeah, Yeah, that's
• 23:44
  Speaker 2: the last time I saw him play consistently put Browns.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: The Browns didn't counted on the bills he didn't and
• 23:50
  Speaker 2: the Browns didn't count because they would have a quarterback.
• 23:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 23:52
  Speaker 2: So like, I feel like the last time I saw
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: him have a chance with the Cowboys and they didn't.
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: They sucked. No offense, dude. Keenan Allen to the Chiefs.
• 24:01
  Speaker 4: Oh gosh, he just gets hurt.
• 24:04
  Speaker 2: Debo to the Steelers. Oh Man, Chris god one of
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: the Jaguars. Devanta Adams to the Lions. Yeah, if I'm
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Devanta Adams. I'd like that.
• 24:17
  Speaker 4: That awesome.
• 24:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you want to do quarterbacks real quick? This
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: is not AI, this is US. Where will they end up?
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: Where will they end up? Let's go fear with the
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford. He wants fifty million bucks. Rams are like,
• 24:28
  Speaker 2: I don't think we're gonna give it to you, Matthew Stafford.
• 24:31
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say Stafford ends up. So I think it's
• 24:35
  Speaker 2: Giants or Raiders. I think Giants are probably the leader
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: right now, with the Raiders being number two out of
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: the Rams. I'm not going to pay fifty million.
• 24:45
  Speaker 4: Bucks, and who needs a quarterback? So Giants, Giants, and
• 24:48
  Speaker 4: the Raiders.
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: I think the other teams aren't going to pay fifty
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: million bucks though. So I think those are the two options.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: Two options that will pay him. Trade a decent draft pick,
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: because it's not we're just gonna take him and pay him.
• 24:58
  Speaker 2: It's you got to pay him if you get him,
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: because he wants longer than a one year deal. Yeah,
• 25:03
  Speaker 2: so it's what pick can you give up? I think
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: the Raiders have six and the Giants have maybe two
• 25:08
  Speaker 2: or three. Yeah, so you're gonna probably trade. That's what
• 25:12
  Speaker 2: the hope is that first round pick. I can't see
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: anybody trading that pick. Maybe a second and third rounder,
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: but I think Stafford's probably a giant.
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I would go to the Giants. That's all I
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: was gonna say.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Outside shot a Raider. Kirk Cousins, Tennessee, I'm gonna say,
• 25:26
  Speaker 2: I want to say Cleveland. Stefanski was his play caller
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: in Minnesota, and Kirk Cousins can do what we just
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: saw happen from Denver to Pittsburgh with Russ Wilson, where
• 25:41
  Speaker 2: Russ was guaranteed all the money, so he took the
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: minimum to go to Pittsburgh so it didn't hit their
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: cap at all. And because the Browns, oh massage man
• 25:50
  Speaker 2: ninety million bucks or whatever this son, Yeah, they can
• 25:56
  Speaker 2: take Cousins minimally. He still gets his money if he's
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: not staying. A backup they're now saying. The Falcons are
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: still saying the backup.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no way.
• 26:04
  Speaker 2: If he stays, they can pay him ninety million in
• 26:06
  Speaker 2: one year or fifty for two, or they can figure
• 26:10
  Speaker 2: out how to trade him. And if they figure out
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: to trade him to Cleveland, that also maybe gets Miles
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: Garrett to stay, because Miles Garrett's like, I'm out of here.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: We're not even trying. And he can go for a
• 26:20
  Speaker 2: few hundred thousand bucks and still make all the same
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: money because of what he's owed in Atlanta, and he
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: has a relationship with Stefanski. So that's my pick.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: It's pretty good pick, though, I was gonna say, you're
• 26:31
  Speaker 3: pretty in depth. I mean, I just said the Titans random.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Guess Aaron Rodgers that's home, like he's going home. I'm
• 26:42
  Speaker 2: gonna pick the Rams if Stafford leaves. And if Stafford
• 26:48
  Speaker 2: goes somewhere and they get some decent picks, I think
• 26:50
  Speaker 2: they probably draft their next quarterback. And Aaron Rodgers is
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: there for a year maybe two, and that's the system,
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: he'd probably do really well. And because everybody does, so
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say the Rams. If Stafford isn't there, I
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: don't know what the Titan's gonna do. I hope the
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: Titans don't bring Rogers here. So if Stafford doesn't leave,
• 27:06
  Speaker 2: then where's Rogers go? Prie the Titans? But that's annoying
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: for us.
• 27:09
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and why would you want to come here just
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: to play house?
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: He's got a house here.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: He's not gonna like you guys, don't worry.
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: I got a house.
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: We're good to know the yard. Dude, stay there, Stay there,
• 27:19
  Speaker 2: You're not gonna do anything else. Stay there. We're all good.
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: Other quarterbacks that can be moving around? Can you think
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: of any other ones?
• 27:25
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: Sam Donald?
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, are the Seahawks gonna keep Gino?
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: What about the Steelers?
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: So Rogers to the Steelers is also a thing though, Yeah,
• 27:38
  Speaker 2: but I have not heard Donald to the Steelers at all.
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: So Donald could really end up back in Minnesota. Probably not, though,
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: because I don't think they're gonna pay him, especially because
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: we talked to Kevin O'Connell the other not ours, but
• 27:49
  Speaker 2: the head coach, and just hearing him talk was like, Hey,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: we're gonna let him see what his value is to me.
• 27:55
  Speaker 2: That's we're gonna probably lose him. Yeah, I mean I
• 27:59
  Speaker 2: think the.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: For Darnald, we're still right. Yeah, the Raiders would be.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Good if Stafford doesn't go there. I think you have
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: a couple of pieces of their affecting other pieces. But
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: I think the Raiders is good. Okay, Uh interview coming
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: up in a second. Let's get into our conversation with
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Grant McCasland, head basketball coach at Texas Tech. You know,
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I oddly like all Texas Tech teams. There's no reason
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: for me to dislike them, but I think I like
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Texas Tech because I'm an Arkansas fan. Now that doesn't
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: mean all Arkansas fans like Texas Tech specifically, but Texas
• 28:45
  Speaker 2: Tech is like the school that's kind of got a
• 28:46
  Speaker 2: grind in that state, meaning you got Ut, you got
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Texas A and m Man, you got a lot of
• 28:52
  Speaker 2: big Texas schools, and I feel like Texas Tech is
• 28:54
  Speaker 2: like not so much in the shadow, but like they're
• 28:58
  Speaker 2: always like I gotta punch at stra hard for people
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: to pay attention, and that's what I feel like we
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: have to do at Arkansas. So like I generally have
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: a positive feeling towards Texas Tech athletics for that reason.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: Love football coach, loved this basketball coach. I mean Grant McCaslin.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: He has been a winner before taking over in Lubbock.
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: He led North Texas to an NIT championship at twenty
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: twenty three and their first ever NCUBA Tournament win. Massive
• 29:24
  Speaker 2: deal in North Texas through ten seasons as an NCAA
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: head coach, mccastlin's now two hundred and thirty four and
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: one hundred, and he's won seventy eight and eighty eight
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: at the Division one level. I mean, just some fun facts.
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: The twenty twenty Conference USA Coach of the Year, three
• 29:40
  Speaker 2: straight Conference USA championships, over seven hundred career winning percentage.
• 29:46
  Speaker 2: I could go on and on. This year, Texas Tech
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: kind of rocking. Twenty one and seven. Right now, they're
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: third in the Big twelve. They're playing Kansas on Saturday.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: Then they finished with Colorado and at Arizona State. Lenardi
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: has at a two, like a bottom two or an
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: early three right now in the bracket. But I love
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: this dude. I liked them until we talked with them,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: and then I'm like, I'm in I'm in here. He
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: is my new friend. Coach Grant mccaslan. Hey, coach, that's
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: a pretty sick hoodie you have on. By the way,
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: that's a good one.
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: You want one, Yeah, I'll send you one.
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  Speaker 4: Oh, he's a shameless coach.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: No, No, that Melbourne.
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: When you got a little best you got a little.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Got a little Malbourne card again. You play golf too?
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: What's going on? Coach man?
• 30:32
  Speaker 7: I'll hit I'll hit a ball in the woods.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah, So okay, that's funny. What do you get to
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: do during basketball season? I'm sure it's all basketball all
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: the time. Do you have time to read books? Like?
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: What in the world can you do during basketball season?
• 30:45
  Speaker 7: Man, good question. I do a lot of things with
• 30:47
  Speaker 7: my family.
• 30:48
  Speaker 8: I got I got four kids, so I got two
• 30:51
  Speaker 8: boys to play hoops, soda rock climbs, and we we
• 30:55
  Speaker 8: have a simulator at the Alice. We built a basketball
• 30:57
  Speaker 8: bar and it's got two big a ball courts, a
• 30:59
  Speaker 8: climbing all, and a little golf sem area. So we
• 31:03
  Speaker 8: turned it loose at night every once in a while
• 31:05
  Speaker 8: in between some film sessions.
• 31:06
  Speaker 7: Are you a little family?
• 31:08
  Speaker 8: Got a little My wife played soccer here at Tech,
• 31:10
  Speaker 8: so we'll play a little pick a ball.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: That's what I was gonna ask. If you're you're a
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: pickle ball player.
• 31:14
  Speaker 4: We have a court.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: We just built a court here at the house. And
• 31:17
  Speaker 2: this guy from Ohio I posted a video coach on Twitter.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: It was just me hitting the ball. I got metaglasses,
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: so like I was just literally recording game tape, like right,
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: I like to watch see how I'm improving. And so
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: some guy like trolled me on Twitter and was like
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: you suck and I was like, I'll play you for
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: a thousand bucks. Never didn't even know who he was,
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: and he was like, I'm in So now I got
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: a flight Ohio and play some dude I never met.
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: He was a four year D one athlete for a
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: thousand dollars in pickleball. So but I got like a
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: weird competitive like insecurity, like growing up? How competitive were you?
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: Where did that come from?
• 31:47
  Speaker 7: Oh?
• 31:47
  Speaker 8: I'm a mess as a competitor. You know that you
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: do these personality tests and I don't even know which
• 31:53
  Speaker 8: one it was.
• 31:54
  Speaker 7: But you have to rank like your four.
• 31:57
  Speaker 8: It comes back after you get done to answering all
• 31:59
  Speaker 8: these questions.
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  Speaker 2: It gives you, like.
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: Your four main characteristics.
• 32:03
  Speaker 8: And my number one was competitive and number two is
• 32:06
  Speaker 8: like belief and I'm telling you it's awesome and everything.
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: But marriage, Oh, you're so right. And I've only been
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: married losing marriage, yes, like three years, so I'm pretty
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: new to being married. But you are speaking the gospel
• 32:18
  Speaker 2: like it's like the young Gospel to me right now,
• 32:20
  Speaker 2: where I'm just learning that that's true, that it's not
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: always about winning. At times you can lose but still
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: strategically win, which is probably not the best thing. But
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: you're talking my language now.
• 32:32
  Speaker 7: No. The the true is the only way to really
• 32:36
  Speaker 7: win in marriage is to lose.
• 32:37
  Speaker 8: That's it, there is like, that is the end. No,
• 32:40
  Speaker 8: don't even try to even say you can win some
• 32:42
  Speaker 8: and still win.
• 32:43
  Speaker 7: No, it's zero.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: It's you lose, then you win. I'm curious basketball wise, coach,
• 32:48
  Speaker 2: because you're a defensive genius. I feel just looking at
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: as you've risen through the ranks of look at how
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: good your defensive squads are. Is there the option to
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: be great at both? Like, because again, you're a defensive guy.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Your team is built and I could be wrong, but
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: I feel like you are Let's play defense hard and
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: then the offense will happen. But is it possible to
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: specialize in both at the same time?
• 33:12
  Speaker 7: Yeah, definitely. You know.
• 33:14
  Speaker 8: The truth is as a young coach, when I was
• 33:18
  Speaker 8: twenty six years old and got the opportunity to be
• 33:22
  Speaker 8: a junior college head coach, we were in a conference
• 33:27
  Speaker 8: with Mark Adams, who was the previous head coach at
• 33:29
  Speaker 8: Texas Tech, who's a dear friend of mine, and in
• 33:33
  Speaker 8: the rankings of all the past twenty five years of
• 33:37
  Speaker 8: defenses that Texas Tech team in twenty nineteen here is
• 33:42
  Speaker 8: statistically the best defensive team ever in the last twenty
• 33:45
  Speaker 8: five years of college basketball. So, but he was actually
• 33:48
  Speaker 8: the head coach at Howard College when I was twenty six,
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: and the head coach at Midland College, so I coached
• 33:53
  Speaker 8: against it.
• 33:53
  Speaker 7: One game we had fourteen points at the half.
• 33:56
  Speaker 2: Playing against his defense.
• 33:58
  Speaker 8: So honestly, my mind thinks, but I've I learned from
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: him that you better be great defensively if you want
• 34:04
  Speaker 8: to win. So we want a junior college national championship.
• 34:07
  Speaker 8: The first time, we scored over ninety points and averaged
• 34:09
  Speaker 8: over eighty points.
• 34:10
  Speaker 7: So honestly, my mind thinks offense.
• 34:12
  Speaker 8: But I'm such a competitor and I want to win
• 34:14
  Speaker 8: that I've focused on the defensive part of it because
• 34:17
  Speaker 8: I think that's something that's more controllable in the environment
• 34:21
  Speaker 8: of winning a game.
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: Coach, how how upset do you get when your players
• 34:26
  Speaker 4: miss free throws? Because I know as a viewer I
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: hate it.
• 34:28
  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, I don't get upset at all. Actually I
• 34:30
  Speaker 7: don't care.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: Yeah, right, Let's where that's where fans are different than coaches,
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: because you don't really care. That's an effort thing that
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: you want to have a guy miss try to let
• 34:38
  Speaker 8: him squeeze that basketball really tight, and worried about what
• 34:41
  Speaker 8: you think too. I mean, it's just I think there's
• 34:44
  Speaker 8: a I think there's a balance to it. But it
• 34:45
  Speaker 8: is funny because last year at Texas Tech, we had
• 34:48
  Speaker 8: the best free throw percentage in the history of the school. Okay,
• 34:52
  Speaker 8: And I didn't talk to our guys about free throws
• 34:54
  Speaker 8: one time.
• 34:55
  Speaker 7: You know what I did.
• 34:56
  Speaker 8: I recruited really good shooters so they could make it
• 34:59
  Speaker 8: when it mattered. And honestly, there is a repetition and
• 35:03
  Speaker 8: I do think there's some skill obviously involved in it.
• 35:06
  Speaker 8: But when you get to college, man, if you mess
• 35:08
  Speaker 8: with somebody shots, that's a personal thing for them and
• 35:12
  Speaker 8: it's a difficult thing to change. And you know, it
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: is funny because I do think it's more about confidence
• 35:19
  Speaker 8: and repetition and feeling like you can step up there.
• 35:22
  Speaker 7: But man, do people get mad at free throws?
• 35:25
  Speaker 8: I mean, they're free why don't you make them? You know,
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: I'm like, well, because there's fifteen thousand people in here
• 35:31
  Speaker 8: yelling and everybody's watching them.
• 35:33
  Speaker 7: It's not the same. Now.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: I was watching Arkansas on Texas last night. I hate
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: Texas with all my heart, Like I wish Texas would
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: fall in a whole coach and I'm an Arkansas guy.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: But we were missing. We were missing free throws like
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: we always miss free throws. But I never thought that
• 35:47
  Speaker 2: you should just recruit good free throw shooters more so
• 35:49
  Speaker 2: than spend twenty minutes into practice shooting free throws.
• 35:52
  Speaker 8: Well you know this, Like there are some repetition things
• 35:55
  Speaker 8: that I do think make it more repeatable, which are
• 35:57
  Speaker 8: when you get under pressure, make it simpler for a
• 36:00
  Speaker 8: person to control the variables. I mean, the less movement
• 36:04
  Speaker 8: the better in regards to efficiency. But I do think
• 36:08
  Speaker 8: it's way more like mental than it is physical in
• 36:11
  Speaker 8: a lot of ways. And the repetition of guys that
• 36:14
  Speaker 8: have always seen them go in all their lives, there
• 36:17
  Speaker 8: is something to that that gives them a different level
• 36:20
  Speaker 8: of confidence when they step up to the free throw line.
• 36:22
  Speaker 8: And now I've coached guys where it's gone the other
• 36:25
  Speaker 8: way too, where they went from being like seventy to
• 36:27
  Speaker 8: like really bad. And what they did is they tried
• 36:29
  Speaker 8: to go in and obsess over some detail to fix
• 36:32
  Speaker 8: and their free throw shot and lost the connection to
• 36:35
  Speaker 8: the confidence and flow of like being in the moment
• 36:37
  Speaker 8: and being confident. It's a wild battle, and when it
• 36:42
  Speaker 8: goes downhill, I mean, it's like a lot of things
• 36:44
  Speaker 8: in golf for other things that are repetitive in nature,
• 36:47
  Speaker 8: and can it can get worse. But that's where I
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: don't even We put guys in routines and we allow
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: them the space to make improvements specifically, but man, I
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: don't mess with that.
• 36:59
  Speaker 2: How much do you put into like Lonardi putting you
• 37:02
  Speaker 2: guys in certain places right now? Two seed? I think
• 37:04
  Speaker 2: I just saw, oh nothing.
• 37:05
  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't mean that in disrespect to the
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: people that make those decisions, but you and I both know.
• 37:10
  Speaker 8: I mean, we've got three conference games and then plus
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: the conference tournament, and man, so many things change and
• 37:16
  Speaker 8: the uncontrollables.
• 37:18
  Speaker 7: I'm out of that game.
• 37:19
  Speaker 8: When I was a junior college coach at twenty seven,
• 37:22
  Speaker 8: our second season, we had a path to maybe win
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: the tournament.
• 37:27
  Speaker 7: So I went through and like said, like, if we.
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: Win this game, then we can be a two seed
• 37:31
  Speaker 8: in the tournament if we win these three games. And
• 37:33
  Speaker 8: what happens if we win these four And I spent
• 37:34
  Speaker 8: all this time doing all this math, and then you
• 37:37
  Speaker 8: get to the end of the season, Like, I realized
• 37:39
  Speaker 8: every second that I spent trying to figure out where
• 37:41
  Speaker 8: they had us was two or three seconds that I
• 37:44
  Speaker 8: could have invested in a relationship with someone that actually
• 37:47
  Speaker 8: would have made an impact on winning. And so man,
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: I just flipped this whole thing in my brain of like,
• 37:52
  Speaker 8: anytime there's a where do someone or what do I
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: think could happen? I just like, well, let's invent and
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: what actually does happen, which is people and relationships and
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: their impact on what we're doing as a team. And
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: it's changed my perspective and of all of the thought
• 38:15
  Speaker 8: process in regard to where they put people in the
• 38:17
  Speaker 8: NCAA tournament and projections.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: With this part of the year, where's the balance in
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: keeping players healthy and fresh and also keeping them in rhythm?
• 38:26
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, I and my experience, what we do
• 38:30
  Speaker 8: right now is we push the throttle down at the
• 38:33
  Speaker 8: beginning of practice and we'll start with a super competitive
• 38:36
  Speaker 8: segment of like pressing, because you get to the end
• 38:39
  Speaker 8: of games and that's what really matters. And we try
• 38:41
  Speaker 8: to like rev it all the way up and get
• 38:44
  Speaker 8: a transition drill going and then make it real competitive
• 38:47
  Speaker 8: at the beginning of practice and then we taper it
• 38:49
  Speaker 8: off and then at the end is like mentally, how
• 38:52
  Speaker 8: do you execute? But nothing competitive because what we found
• 38:56
  Speaker 8: is guys get hurt, you know, kind of more when
• 38:58
  Speaker 8: they get fatigued at the end of than they do
• 39:00
  Speaker 8: at the beginning.
• 39:01
  Speaker 7: So I still think you got a practice.
• 39:04
  Speaker 8: And if you asked me one thing that I talked
• 39:06
  Speaker 8: to all my buddies coaching, like Scott Drew and you know,
• 39:09
  Speaker 8: Tommy Lloyd at Arizona and Ben McCollum at Drake and
• 39:13
  Speaker 8: Ross Hodge at North Texas and Scott you know, just
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: we all talk about like how do you make it
• 39:18
  Speaker 8: competitive but you don't want to get anybody hurt.
• 39:19
  Speaker 7: But I do think there's a.
• 39:21
  Speaker 8: Way to rev it all the way up where you
• 39:23
  Speaker 8: still get that competitiveness and you can still put the
• 39:27
  Speaker 8: throttle all the way down and get what you need
• 39:29
  Speaker 8: but not not put anybody in harms away.
• 39:32
  Speaker 2: Are there any heat check rules where if somebody's on coaching,
• 39:34
  Speaker 2: there two, three, four in a row where it's like
• 39:37
  Speaker 2: understood taking another one, Like, are there any heat check
• 39:40
  Speaker 2: rules at all?
• 39:41
  Speaker 7: Oh? I mean, if you say rules, there's like heat
• 39:44
  Speaker 7: check for me.
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: I just love it when guys feel like Chance McMillan
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: made one the other day at home where he shot
• 39:52
  Speaker 8: it and turned around and went the other way, and honestly, like,
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: would I prefer him to not do that on all shots? Yes,
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: but when you are playing with a different level of confidence,
• 40:05
  Speaker 8: that means we're playing at our best. And so, man,
• 40:10
  Speaker 8: we love shooting threes. We shot thirty the other day
• 40:13
  Speaker 8: and didn't make many of them. But I do think
• 40:15
  Speaker 8: that there's a confidence level that your players have to
• 40:17
  Speaker 8: play with on that side where once you get rolling, let's.
• 40:22
  Speaker 7: Let it rip.
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: Coach, what's your relationship with referees? Like, sometimes it's very
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: you know, will you explain that call to me? And
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: then sometimes it's like what are you thinking? Do you
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: know all these guys right? So what's your relationship with them?
• 40:36
  Speaker 8: Man, I'll tell you what I pray often, but I
• 40:38
  Speaker 8: pray mostly about my relationships with refs and my wife.
• 40:45
  Speaker 8: I mean, I don't know how to explain it, but
• 40:47
  Speaker 8: it's this wild part of the game that you know
• 40:52
  Speaker 8: that the outcome isn't supposed to matter to them, but
• 40:57
  Speaker 8: they impact the outcome so significantly by the flow and
• 41:00
  Speaker 8: feel of it. And I'm confrontational in nature, so I
• 41:04
  Speaker 8: don't mind the confrontation of communicating with him, but I
• 41:08
  Speaker 8: don't think it's helpful. I got to be honest, I
• 41:11
  Speaker 8: end up airing on the side, and you get to
• 41:13
  Speaker 8: the end that I wish I would have said less.
• 41:16
  Speaker 7: And so in my.
• 41:19
  Speaker 8: Areas of improvement, that usually ends up being one of
• 41:22
  Speaker 8: the more significant ones is how do you communicate in
• 41:25
  Speaker 8: a way that's respectful but doesn't imply that they're not
• 41:31
  Speaker 8: doing a great job honestly, And so I found more
• 41:35
  Speaker 8: of that to be helpful.
• 41:36
  Speaker 7: But I can't always do that in the moment.
• 41:39
  Speaker 2: What if, like your counterpart is going to town on
• 41:42
  Speaker 2: a ref, do you feel like you got to step
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: it up and meet him with that energy? Though so
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: he doesn't like rule the refs.
• 41:47
  Speaker 8: You know, there's two parts that because you know you
• 41:49
  Speaker 8: can look at those refs and go like, if this
• 41:51
  Speaker 8: guy says one more thing, it's going to get significantly
• 41:54
  Speaker 8: worse for him, and you know the difference between that,
• 41:57
  Speaker 8: and then when you look at the guy and he
• 41:59
  Speaker 8: seems fras by what's being said by the other coach,
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: and then you know like, well you better, you better
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: get a little part of this so that he doesn't
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: just get in a place where he's making calls that
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: don't necessarily help. So I do think there's some nuance
• 42:18
  Speaker 8: maybe to that, but for the most part, the interactions
• 42:22
  Speaker 8: in regards to that. You know, the difference between somebody
• 42:28
  Speaker 8: that complains a lot in our league and these referees
• 42:31
  Speaker 8: talk and they do know going into each game, like
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: there's something different about someone that shows constant respect and
• 42:38
  Speaker 8: asks questions and does want to understand that refs make
• 42:42
  Speaker 8: mistakes too. And I do think that there's a part
• 42:44
  Speaker 8: of that that there's a sincerity there that most of
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: the guys that I work with, they're they're they're awesome,
• 42:50
  Speaker 8: And I do think that there. It's a difficult job
• 42:54
  Speaker 8: and and most when I look back on film, some
• 42:58
  Speaker 8: of the calls that I complain about, now we have
• 43:00
  Speaker 8: them on the bench.
• 43:01
  Speaker 7: We used to not have this.
• 43:02
  Speaker 8: Literally, we have access to every call every second when
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: we watch it. We can we can pull it up
• 43:07
  Speaker 8: in time out and queue everything, and I can watch it,
• 43:09
  Speaker 8: and I watch most plays at halftime of the game,
• 43:13
  Speaker 8: so I have.
• 43:13
  Speaker 7: A better perspective.
• 43:15
  Speaker 8: But I used to look back on it and go, man,
• 43:16
  Speaker 8: I thought for sure that was a foul, and it
• 43:18
  Speaker 8: wasn't one. So I think given the benefit of the
• 43:20
  Speaker 8: doubt over the course of the game and trying to
• 43:22
  Speaker 8: be somebody that's man just in a real way, trying
• 43:26
  Speaker 8: to understand what the game is really being called like
• 43:29
  Speaker 8: and trying to do your best to adapt is the
• 43:32
  Speaker 8: best way to do it.
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: Is there peaking too early? And where do you guys
• 43:36
  Speaker 2: feel like you are in the peaking scale?
• 43:38
  Speaker 8: Yes, there is in regards to I think a fatigue
• 43:43
  Speaker 8: of your team when you kind of know all your
• 43:48
  Speaker 8: weaknesses and those have been magnified, and I think that's
• 43:51
  Speaker 8: when your team takes that dive. And I think as
• 43:54
  Speaker 8: a coach, our hope is to find this real gratitude
• 43:58
  Speaker 8: and belief in each other where you can concentrate. I'll
• 44:02
  Speaker 8: give you an example, like you can watch film with
• 44:04
  Speaker 8: the team and you can show them all fifteen turnovers
• 44:08
  Speaker 8: of what happened, and you can magnify those things. And
• 44:11
  Speaker 8: I think at the end of the season, how you
• 44:13
  Speaker 8: really peek as you start showing only the plays that
• 44:16
  Speaker 8: you know that one that can be catastrophic in nature
• 44:20
  Speaker 8: and that your team is repeating. You show those, but
• 44:23
  Speaker 8: really you try to show all the things that you
• 44:25
  Speaker 8: want your team to do and those guys that honestly
• 44:28
  Speaker 8: get encouraged that way.
• 44:29
  Speaker 7: It shows them more as highlighted and.
• 44:32
  Speaker 8: People want to do what you want them to do
• 44:34
  Speaker 8: more than you telling them what not to do.
• 44:36
  Speaker 7: And I think the season's long for everybody.
• 44:38
  Speaker 8: So when you get to the end of the year,
• 44:39
  Speaker 8: those people have been told like, don't do that, don't
• 44:42
  Speaker 8: do that, You're.
• 44:42
  Speaker 7: Messing this up.
• 44:44
  Speaker 8: You can see, you can see the decline and it
• 44:48
  Speaker 8: wears on everybody because it is a long season. You're
• 44:50
  Speaker 8: around each other all the time, and there are all
• 44:52
  Speaker 8: these pressure moments and all you want to do is
• 44:54
  Speaker 8: tell them what you don't like about them, because that's
• 44:56
  Speaker 8: the easiest thing to identify. But to me, the way
• 44:59
  Speaker 8: you get your team to pee at the end as
• 45:00
  Speaker 8: you really get them to believe what your best at
• 45:03
  Speaker 8: as a team, and then they take away, man, this
• 45:06
  Speaker 8: is what I can do, even if it's a role,
• 45:07
  Speaker 8: and people don't like saying that word, but if it's
• 45:09
  Speaker 8: a role that they can be great at, then they
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: know this is where they're at their best to make
• 45:13
  Speaker 8: the team the best. And I will tell you that
• 45:15
  Speaker 8: our team's starting to really believe what we can do
• 45:17
  Speaker 8: the best Really the key is just how healthy can
• 45:20
  Speaker 8: you be? And that's probably the greatest determining factor of
• 45:22
  Speaker 8: whether you go into these tournaments, you know, peaking is
• 45:26
  Speaker 8: whether you're healthy. So that's one aspect, But I think
• 45:28
  Speaker 8: the other aspect is like the real belief in each
• 45:31
  Speaker 8: other and what you do well and everybody basically like
• 45:34
  Speaker 8: pouring into what those things that make your team great.
• 45:37
  Speaker 4: Coach, I was watching your game against Houston and I
• 45:40
  Speaker 4: noticed that Patrick Mahomes and his wife were there. What
• 45:44
  Speaker 4: is that cool for your team to see Patrick and
• 45:47
  Speaker 4: his wife like sitting right next to you, guys, and
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: even coaching a little bit too, him yelling and standing
• 45:52
  Speaker 4: up and getting into the game.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: Oh, it was.
• 45:57
  Speaker 7: Epic. It was awesome.
• 45:59
  Speaker 8: And I got a phone call from Dusty Womble, who's
• 46:02
  Speaker 8: a regent, and I'm telling you, he's like one of
• 46:04
  Speaker 8: the greatest guys I know, not just people that support
• 46:08
  Speaker 8: Red Raider basketball and football, but his name's on our
• 46:12
  Speaker 8: practice facility. He's just one of the greatest husbands and
• 46:15
  Speaker 8: dads that I know. He's awesome. So he calls me
• 46:17
  Speaker 8: and he's got the seats, those Hollywood seats, and he's
• 46:20
  Speaker 8: got the seats across from the bench too, four on
• 46:22
  Speaker 8: the floor and he's like, where do you think we
• 46:24
  Speaker 8: should sit my homes And I was like, wherever he
• 46:28
  Speaker 8: wants to sit.
• 46:28
  Speaker 7: If you want to sit by the bench, it's great.
• 46:30
  Speaker 8: So he comes and sits by the bench, and honestly,
• 46:32
  Speaker 8: I don't interact with him a ton, but he's an
• 46:34
  Speaker 8: unbelievable supporter of our university, in our athletic department, and
• 46:38
  Speaker 8: we got.
• 46:39
  Speaker 7: All these players that he's supporting. It's really unbelievable.
• 46:42
  Speaker 8: Well, I meet him face to face in the locker
• 46:45
  Speaker 8: room before we go out, and he was really complimentary.
• 46:47
  Speaker 8: Then we go sit on the floor and I introduced
• 46:50
  Speaker 8: myself to Brittany for the first time and I'm like,
• 46:52
  Speaker 8: you guys, let it rip over here, have a good time.
• 46:55
  Speaker 8: She said, so, you mean I can say anything to
• 46:57
  Speaker 8: the refs And Patrick's.
• 46:58
  Speaker 7: Like, don't tell her that because you may get it.
• 47:01
  Speaker 8: I was like, as long as you sit in these chairs,
• 47:03
  Speaker 8: you can, but if you move over and get in
• 47:05
  Speaker 8: my four chairs, then you probably shouldn't say anything to them.
• 47:08
  Speaker 8: But no, they were honestly, their energy and their belief
• 47:11
  Speaker 8: and what we're doing is just a separator for us
• 47:13
  Speaker 8: and it was a blast.
• 47:14
  Speaker 7: They were awesome.
• 47:15
  Speaker 2: I had two final questions for you, coach, tournament expansion,
• 47:19
  Speaker 2: your thoughts.
• 47:21
  Speaker 8: Honestly, that's kind of goes in the category of what
• 47:23
  Speaker 8: we talked about earlier, of like, you know what seed
• 47:25
  Speaker 8: are we I just don't have any control over it,
• 47:27
  Speaker 8: and I like the tournament the way it is. I mean,
• 47:30
  Speaker 8: you know, sixty four to sixty eight. I know there's
• 47:33
  Speaker 8: a lot of reasons for it to be different. I'm
• 47:35
  Speaker 8: not smart enough to figure it out. I'm barely smart
• 47:37
  Speaker 8: enough to call time out at the right time and
• 47:40
  Speaker 8: not run into Patrick Mahomes and a timeout, you know.
• 47:43
  Speaker 7: I mean, it's something probably out of my pay grade.
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: Okay, I'm not going to count that as a question then,
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: since you didn't have really an answer and you acted
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: like you're done when you're obviously brilliant. But okay, I
• 47:52
  Speaker 2: hear you. I hear you, coach. Okay, here, let me
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: switch it up.
• 47:55
  Speaker 4: Then.
• 47:56
  Speaker 2: Is there a movie or like a scene from a
• 47:58
  Speaker 2: movie that you show your players every year?
• 48:01
  Speaker 7: Ooh, yes, there is.
• 48:03
  Speaker 8: There is Shawshank Redemption which part Climbs of the Poop. Yes, yeah, really, yes,
• 48:10
  Speaker 8: that's the season. That's the season. So it's like you
• 48:14
  Speaker 8: find a way to break through and you finally get
• 48:16
  Speaker 8: an opportunity and then you got to go sluedge through
• 48:18
  Speaker 8: all this and I and I actually reference it during
• 48:21
  Speaker 8: games quite often because let's just say, you've missed eight
• 48:24
  Speaker 8: shots in a row, and you know, you feel this
• 48:26
  Speaker 8: like desperation, like you never know where the end of
• 48:29
  Speaker 8: the tunnel really is and you don't really know exactly
• 48:31
  Speaker 8: what you're gonna have to go through till you get
• 48:33
  Speaker 8: through it. And so it's just this mental imagery of
• 48:36
  Speaker 8: the freedom that you have that you don't know when
• 48:38
  Speaker 8: it's going to break through for you, but it's worth
• 48:40
  Speaker 8: it when you finally get there, and and uh yeah,
• 48:43
  Speaker 8: it's uh that's the that's.
• 48:45
  Speaker 2: The one final question for you. It's a family question.
• 48:48
  Speaker 2: High profile job. Your wife went to school there. I
• 48:52
  Speaker 2: have other friends that are head coaches, football, basketball, different universities,
• 48:55
  Speaker 2: and there's a dynamic. When things are going great, you're
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: the hero. When things eventually don't go great for a
• 49:02
  Speaker 2: short amount of time or a long amount of time,
• 49:04
  Speaker 2: you're not the hero, but you're very public and your
• 49:06
  Speaker 2: family has to take the good and the bad. Is
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: that a conversation you've had with your family at all, going, Hey,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: it's not always going to be awesome, but it's not
• 49:14
  Speaker 2: real when it's not, Oh.
• 49:16
  Speaker 7: No question.
• 49:17
  Speaker 8: I mean this is honestly, man, my faith, my relationship
• 49:23
  Speaker 8: with the Lord is the only thing that really is important.
• 49:26
  Speaker 8: And I think in that my relationship with my wife
• 49:29
  Speaker 8: is What's that? That's everything. I mean, CC's she was
• 49:34
  Speaker 8: an unbelievable competitor. She's beautiful, she's freaking so cool.
• 49:38
  Speaker 7: She's a blast.
• 49:39
  Speaker 8: But when we were losing at North Texas one year
• 49:42
  Speaker 8: we lost seven of our last eight games, she like
• 49:44
  Speaker 8: wouldn't talk to me after games. She's so mad at me,
• 49:48
  Speaker 8: but not mad at me, but just mad at like
• 49:50
  Speaker 8: why is this happening? And why can't we fix it?
• 49:53
  Speaker 8: But as a competitor, when you're the wife, you can't
• 49:55
  Speaker 8: really go.
• 49:55
  Speaker 7: Coach a game.
• 49:57
  Speaker 8: And like, and then I've got two sons that play
• 49:59
  Speaker 8: go four kids, my daughter, they all play point guard,
• 50:02
  Speaker 8: they all play basketball, They rock climb, they're like super
• 50:05
  Speaker 8: competitive and they just love this. But I think the
• 50:08
  Speaker 8: thing that you and I both know is like, if
• 50:10
  Speaker 8: there's anything I want them to know is that I
• 50:13
  Speaker 8: love them no matter what, Like there's a real grace
• 50:15
  Speaker 8: to this, and there's a real humility in knowing that
• 50:19
  Speaker 8: when everybody is shaming you that or whatever the case
• 50:24
  Speaker 8: may be making fun of you or there's some difficulty
• 50:27
  Speaker 8: in that, like that there's a love there that is
• 50:31
  Speaker 8: consistent no matter what you perform. And honestly, like I
• 50:36
  Speaker 8: hope my wife and I's marriage in the way that
• 50:38
  Speaker 8: we interact with each other, teaches them that, like, how
• 50:43
  Speaker 8: do we love each other in a way that isn't
• 50:46
  Speaker 8: connected to how good you are at something? And I
• 50:49
  Speaker 8: do think that that's the foundation of being great. And
• 50:52
  Speaker 8: so when you say that, I just think it's how
• 50:55
  Speaker 8: you live your life every day where you love your
• 50:57
  Speaker 8: kids and you help them in ways that aren't tied
• 51:01
  Speaker 8: to their performance.
• 51:02
  Speaker 7: And I think that's the key to all this.
• 51:04
  Speaker 8: And I think that's the key to our team, and
• 51:06
  Speaker 8: I think that's the key to life, and that.
• 51:08
  Speaker 7: How do you love people?
• 51:09
  Speaker 8: So after we play these awesome games, and we play
• 51:13
  Speaker 8: really good, I tell our guys to pull out their
• 51:15
  Speaker 8: phones and scroll and see five hundred text messages. And
• 51:19
  Speaker 8: then when we lose a game that we're not supposed
• 51:21
  Speaker 8: to lose, go pull out your text message and there's
• 51:23
  Speaker 8: two text messages most of the time, and one of
• 51:25
  Speaker 8: them's from their mom. You know, It's like, these are
• 51:28
  Speaker 8: the people that, honestly, unfortunately in this deal, are going
• 51:31
  Speaker 8: to be connected to you no matter what, and those
• 51:34
  Speaker 8: are the people that you need to call and think
• 51:35
  Speaker 8: first when we win and do great things. And that's
• 51:38
  Speaker 8: kind of how we try to mirror this all as
• 51:41
  Speaker 8: how being a part of a team relates to your family,
• 51:44
  Speaker 8: which relates to your question in regard to how you
• 51:46
  Speaker 8: handle all this.
• 51:47
  Speaker 2: I mean, I'd climb a poopy tunnel for you. Coach,
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: you got me. I'm ready to climb to a tunnel
• 51:52
  Speaker 2: of poop whatever you need me to do. Yes, sir,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: I'm rooting for you. Guys. I don't say I rarely
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: say any other team stuff, but you know, Big twelve,
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: let's go, that's what I say. Wrackham, Yeah, yeah, beat
• 52:05
  Speaker 2: the crap out of Kansas, win the tournament. Let's get
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: a good seat. Hope you're near me. I'll come watch,
• 52:09
  Speaker 2: but not far. I'm not gonna travel far, but if
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: you're near me regionally, I'll come watch. Coach. Thank you
• 52:14
  Speaker 2: so much, good luck the rest of the season, and
• 52:16
  Speaker 2: we really appreciate the time.
• 52:18
  Speaker 7: This is awesome. I hope you win the thousand dollars
• 52:20
  Speaker 7: in the picture.
• 52:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, me too, Yes, sir, thank you coach. Right, see, y'all,
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: thank you guys for listening. We're back next week. It
• 52:31
  Speaker 2: looks like at some point next week, I think we're
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: gonna get Dama stodom Ireon, who's the head coach at
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: Georgia Tech. But also like crazy good NBA career, so
• 52:41
  Speaker 2: that'd be fun. Also more analysis from Eddie Betting college basketball.
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: Yeah, a lot of good stuff.
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: When he's like, listen to the story, man, and then
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: they only lost by four and I won.
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: Man, I'm close to getting one of those twelve game parlays.
• 52:55
  Speaker 2: What's close?
• 52:55
  Speaker 4: Eight? No, I've gotten like eleven before. Yeah, I've gotten
• 53:00
  Speaker 4: really close. But but what's crazy, that's when you look
• 53:03
  Speaker 4: at it later. It's usually the first game I lose.
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: The first game, I'm like, oh, that's stupid. But then
• 53:06
  Speaker 4: you look back and I hit every game after that,
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: that sucks.
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: And because you never pay attention to go back and
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: look once you've already lost, you don't even know.
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: It's usually like a Sunday night, when I'm not doing anything,
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: I'm like, let's see how my Weekway and gambling. I
• 53:18
  Speaker 4: almost hit that it's crazy.
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: That's funny. Uh So there's another thing too, if you
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: want to really feel dumb, you can go over to
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: our episode of Lots to say. It's Matt Castle and
• 53:28
  Speaker 2: myself and it's on me because I had Matt try
• 53:33
  Speaker 2: to teach us quarterback terminology and he thought he was
• 53:37
  Speaker 2: really dumbing it down for us. And I'm telling you,
• 53:40
  Speaker 2: about halfway through, I looked at Kevin, and Reid doesn't
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: know much about sports, so it's fine. But I looked
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: at Kevin. Kevin looked at me and we're like, dude,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: you get We got to walk back about three steps
• 53:49
  Speaker 2: and he's like, oh really, He's like, but z flair,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Oh god, And he thought he was breaking it because
• 53:53
  Speaker 2: I wanted to know, like teach us from the beginning
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: so we can have this one thing to know if
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: we're like talking with friends and we're like, yeah, but
• 54:00
  Speaker 2: zero slot z flare Yeah, And he was like, ah,
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: maybe this is why I don't coach, but I don't
• 54:04
  Speaker 2: know how to yeah, simplify it, yes, And he'd be like,
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: what you wanna do is we're gonna make sure your
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: boss gets and the weak side boss was one of
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: the terms. Yeah, because the boss was basically the full back.
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: It was the back on the strong safety. Holy crap,
• 54:20
  Speaker 2: there you go. So if they're running a boss, it's
• 54:22
  Speaker 2: the back to get to the strong safety. But it's
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: inside of like seventy two other words. I do feel
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: good though about what we learned about personnel. When they
• 54:30
  Speaker 2: say thirteen personnel.
• 54:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because they talk about that a lot on the broadcast.
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: Too, and so you can listen to that. But thirteen
• 54:36
  Speaker 2: personnel's one runner back, three tight ends or but he
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: goes into all that. But there was one point we
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: gave up and we're like, dude, we can't do this anymore.
• 54:43
  Speaker 4: Do this with your quarterback friends.
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, well it was my fault because I suggested. I
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: was like, make us Marner. But go listen to that.
• 54:49
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