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👥 Darling, Bish Hour: Kandi & Todd’s divorce and RHOP · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hi, friends, and welcome to well a very different episode.
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  Speaker 2: Today.
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  Speaker 1: You have Melissa Reich, your bish therapist, and.
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  Speaker 2: Me Amy Phillips from drama Darling, and together you're listening.
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  Speaker 3: To Darling Shower Shower.
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  Speaker 2: We did it. We totally did it. We did it.
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  Speaker 3: We worked on it.
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  Speaker 2: We were like in one and A two and a
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  Speaker 2: one two three, and we nailed it.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know about that, Amy, but listen, we hear.
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  Speaker 2: I feel good about it, Melissa, I really do. I'm
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  Speaker 2: not going to question it. I'm fully fully engaged, enraged. No,
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  Speaker 2: I'm kidding.
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  Speaker 3: You're you're checked in.
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  Speaker 1: You are not disengaging. Amy and I are very happy
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  Speaker 1: to be here today to bring you a Darling Bishower,
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  Speaker 1: by the way, a creation from Amy's brain.
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  Speaker 3: Amy came up with his creation.
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  Speaker 1: For those of you listening, those of you who like
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  Speaker 1: myself and Amy, you have called yourselves Darling bushes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, you've named yourself. So we respect that and we're inspired.
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  Speaker 1: Right, and so like Mandy and I have the Eminem Hour,
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  Speaker 1: this is going to be the Darling Busch Hour with
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  Speaker 1: your bish therapist and the incomparable Amy Phillips.
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  Speaker 3: Who just toured Las Vegas and Bravocan and Cabaret Mey.
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  Speaker 2: And hot off of our Obgyn appointment this morning talking
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  Speaker 2: about Perry menopausal. You got it, She's coming to you
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  Speaker 2: and we are here to discuss anything from the Real
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  Speaker 2: Housewives to the most popular documentaries. And let's tell let's
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  Speaker 2: tell the darling bushes when we're going to do this
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  Speaker 2: how often and when?
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  Speaker 3: Yes?
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  Speaker 1: Thank you, Amy, So we are going to do this.
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  Speaker 1: Mandy and I do our eminem Hour at the end
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  Speaker 1: of the month. So Amy and I are going to
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  Speaker 1: do our Darling Bish Hour at the.
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  Speaker 3: At the top of the month.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So you guys are really gonna launch your months.
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  Speaker 2: You're the beginning of the month with us. That sounds weird.
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  Speaker 2: You're gonna start the beginning of your month with a
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  Speaker 2: real pep in your step, your conte.
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  Speaker 1: Hearing, you know, whether it be obgi n visits or
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  Speaker 1: you know, Potomac, whatever it is we want to talk about.
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  Speaker 1: And here's the thing, Amy, here's what I love about
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  Speaker 1: podcasting with you.
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  Speaker 3: It's fun. We have so much fun.
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  Speaker 1: And the thing that I like about this new hour
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  Speaker 1: not to necessarily pitch it to people because I think
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  Speaker 1: people are already in but sometimes your bish therapist can
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  Speaker 1: be a little serious.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know you're not gonna be comical about certain
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  Speaker 2: issues because you're respectful like that. But I think what
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  Speaker 2: you're saying is podcasting should be fun.
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  Speaker 3: Yes, that is what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 1: I need more giggly squad in my life, the giggly
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  Speaker 1: squad of life. Okay, And I do podcasting should be
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  Speaker 1: fun and we have so much fun, and I do
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  Speaker 1: think that people will enjoy our key key.
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  Speaker 2: So today, well, what.
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  Speaker 1: Amy and I are going to be bringing to you
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  Speaker 1: is we're going to talk a little bit about breaking
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  Speaker 1: Bravo news, which is details of the Candy and Tod split.
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  Speaker 3: Because wow, Bethany, Wow, Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Were you surprised Amy when you saw news of that?
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  Speaker 2: I was? I was. I mean, I know, I know
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  Speaker 2: I shouldn't be, but it's like they had gotten so
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  Speaker 2: far that you start to forget about people's marriages when
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  Speaker 2: they get that far into it, Like for example, Rachel
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  Speaker 2: and Roger. You know they got a divorce. We're seeing
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  Speaker 2: them on Beverly Hills, right, you see these you know,
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  Speaker 2: you just don't expect that, you know, Kyl and Moe.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't expect that, although you know when you look
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  Speaker 2: a little, get the magnifying glass out and start to
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  Speaker 2: look a little closer, and you say, yeah, it was
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  Speaker 2: just a matter of time. But yes, of course, shocking, shocking.
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  Speaker 3: Shocking you.
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  Speaker 1: And you know, here's the thing, I'm never shocked because
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  Speaker 1: having done marital counting, I've done couples counting, marital counting,
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  Speaker 1: family counting, the whole thing. You just really learn that,
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  Speaker 1: no matter what people put on the outside, all marriage
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  Speaker 1: is work. Which listen, we're both married. You know. I've
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  Speaker 1: been with my hobby for twenty three years. You've been
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  Speaker 1: with Brett for.
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  Speaker 3: A long one million. Yeah, so it's like counting.
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  Speaker 2: You know.
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  Speaker 1: The one thing we can tell you is that marriage
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  Speaker 1: is a lot of work. You have to work as
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  Speaker 1: hard at your relationship as you do on yourself and
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  Speaker 1: your career and all these other things. And so I
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  Speaker 1: definitely can see how especially since they started on a
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  Speaker 1: really tough foundation in terms of like Mama Joyce just
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  Speaker 1: really really put the screws to that relationship early on.
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  Speaker 3: I'm I actually I'm.
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  Speaker 1: Shocked that it lasted as long as it did, if
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  Speaker 1: I'm being honest.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you have a good point there, and
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  Speaker 2: I will say that earlier on in their marriage. I
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  Speaker 2: would have seen them potentially breaking up then. But then
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  Speaker 2: once they got through, you know, and they've been going
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  Speaker 2: for so long, I just thought they have it, and
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  Speaker 2: I wonder what, Well, I think we all know what
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  Speaker 2: Mama Joyce is doing right now.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, dancing on Todd's grave, dancing, spitting, probably setting us
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  Speaker 1: close on fire.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I can say.
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  Speaker 2: In the street, Yeah, she's really celebrating in the streets.
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  Speaker 2: She's taken to the.
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  Speaker 1: Streets outside, She's said, Kenya more hair care, Goodbye Todd,
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  Speaker 1: goodbye Todd.
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  Speaker 3: Oh that's right, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: So well, let me give some some key details for
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  Speaker 1: what we.
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  Speaker 3: Know at this point.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, so get down.
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  Speaker 3: Oh I'm a but break it down you in the studio.
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  Speaker 1: Candy filed for divorce on November twenty five. According to People,
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  Speaker 1: the reason is she learned that Todd had been talking
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  Speaker 1: to other women behind her without her knowledge. Now, Amy,
• 6:03
  Speaker 1: here's the part that I was confused about. I saw
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  Speaker 1: on social media that they had an open relationship, and
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  Speaker 1: there was some sort of issue with someone who had
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  Speaker 1: been featured on Atlanta who may have been a girlfriend
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  Speaker 1: of Candy or Todd.
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  Speaker 3: Did you see any of what I'm talking.
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  Speaker 2: About, yes, and then there may have been some sort
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  Speaker 2: of alleged throuple. And then right, it turns out perhaps
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  Speaker 2: that maybe Candy, you know, continued that thrupple minus one,
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  Speaker 2: So then it's just a couple and it's she and
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  Speaker 2: this other gal. That's something about that. Yeah, yeah, that
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  Speaker 2: is what I saw.
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  Speaker 1: But what I'm reading it doesn't sound like that right,
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  Speaker 1: because it sounds like she wasn't stepping out, he was
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  Speaker 1: stepping out.
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  Speaker 3: That's what That's what she's reporting. Because she has taken
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  Speaker 3: to Amazon Live.
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  Speaker 1: She expressed being emotionally broken and all over the place,
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  Speaker 1: but she said that they're focusing on you know, she's
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  Speaker 1: focusing on her children and that they're working to co
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  Speaker 1: parent Ace and Blaze, and despite filing for divorce, they
• 7:14
  Speaker 1: spent Thanksgiving together, which I thought could be awkward. But
• 7:17
  Speaker 1: then I saw a picture and there was like forty
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  Speaker 1: people there. I was like, oh, that's great, Okay, you
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  Speaker 1: could do that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that is a good buffer because imagine between them.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was just like Candy Todd and the kids,
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  Speaker 1: and it's like, well, this is awkward.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Candy Djams were I'm sure at the table Candy
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  Speaker 2: Jams were at one table and Todd was at the other.
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  Speaker 2: You remember Marlowe called Candy Candy Dams.
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  Speaker 3: No, of course, that's an amazing callback.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I you know, Mama Joyce, I can't believe that.
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  Speaker 2: You know, perhaps at that point it things hadn't gotten
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  Speaker 2: as bad as they are now, because like he's asking
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  Speaker 2: for full custody.
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  Speaker 1: Correct, correct, he is seeking primary physical custody, which is bonkers.
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  Speaker 1: By the way, Candy is a wonderful mom, she is
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  Speaker 1: a boss, she is worldwide and she there is no
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  Speaker 1: way that he should have primary custody number one. And
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  Speaker 1: then well, because he said by the way, he claims
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  Speaker 1: he cares for the kids while Candy works out of.
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  Speaker 3: Town, and it's like, yeah, that's just called parenting.
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  Speaker 1: Do I think p que Todd Tucker Mauricio, I think
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  Speaker 1: everyone needs a little refresher on what it means to
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  Speaker 1: be a father. Being a father doesn't mean you watch
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  Speaker 1: your kids. It doesn't mean you're babysitting. It doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: you see them once in a while when you're in town.
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  Speaker 1: That's not parenting. That's bullshit.
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  Speaker 2: He also said it in the words of like when
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  Speaker 2: she's going out and chasing her dreams. You know, he
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  Speaker 2: framed it in such a way that was more than
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  Speaker 2: just like she's on a business trip. It's like he
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  Speaker 2: is putting it under the umbrella of like they don't matter,
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  Speaker 2: the kids don't matter because her fame and her goals
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  Speaker 2: as a career in her world of careers are more
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  Speaker 2: important than her kids. That's the way he's framing it.
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  Speaker 1: That is some bs. Candy loves her children. She is
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  Speaker 1: an amazing mom. Dad is trying to challenge the validity
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  Speaker 1: of their prenap.
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  Speaker 3: Well, what do you think pays for your lifestyle?
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  Speaker 2: Todd? Oh, this is it? Used me up?
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  Speaker 3: Is it you? Or is it can't? Worldwide? Candy, it's Candy,
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  Speaker 3: you have nothing.
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  Speaker 2: I do believe Candy's a great mother. I don't agree
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  Speaker 2: with him trying to get full custody and saying these
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  Speaker 2: things that he's saying regarding her going out and doing
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  Speaker 2: what she's doing, because case in point, she's going out
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  Speaker 2: to do what she's doing so that you can live
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  Speaker 2: the life that you have been living exactly and what
• 9:52
  Speaker 2: would have continued to be living. And now you have
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  Speaker 2: a problem with it.
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: Now that he's fighting for his coin, right, I mean
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: it's like, to me, it's so transparent and it's so ugly.
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  Speaker 1: But what I do love is that Now I don't
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  Speaker 1: know how true this is, but I saw all over
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  Speaker 1: social media is that Candy plans or the lawyer plans
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  Speaker 1: to use Bravo footage because when Candy and Todd were
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  Speaker 1: getting their prenup, it was.
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  Speaker 3: All filmed, all of it.
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  Speaker 1: And I thought, Candy Yams, you are a genius on
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  Speaker 1: a hundred million little levels, because that is a boss
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  Speaker 1: move right there.
• 10:31
  Speaker 2: I saw the footage on All about the Tea and
• 10:34
  Speaker 2: there were they are reporting that, oh my god, All
• 10:38
  Speaker 2: about the Tea just has it all like they just
• 10:40
  Speaker 2: they do.
• 10:41
  Speaker 3: They love All about the Tea. They're so good.
• 10:44
  Speaker 2: But they they're basically saying, I think it was somewhere
• 10:48
  Speaker 2: on here. I can't find it anyway. The point is
• 10:50
  Speaker 2: that that footage that that Todd's lawyer is trying to
• 10:56
  Speaker 2: prove that there was an error made when that prenuptial
• 11:02
  Speaker 2: agreement was being signed because the lawyer wasn't there and
• 11:08
  Speaker 2: Todd did it without I want to say, like the
• 11:11
  Speaker 2: not I don't want to say consent, but without consulting
• 11:15
  Speaker 2: his attorney, and so the attorney did not know he
• 11:19
  Speaker 2: was going to be signing that prenup, which was two
• 11:22
  Speaker 2: hours before they were getting married, Okay, right, right, So
• 11:27
  Speaker 2: and so the word on the street is that the
• 11:30
  Speaker 2: attorney is going to take issue with the validity of
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  Speaker 2: the actual prenup.
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  Speaker 3: Uh, which is just such.
• 11:38
  Speaker 1: Listen, that's their job, right to find loopholes to screw
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: over women would work really hard for their money, right,
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: that's a lawyer's job.
• 11:47
  Speaker 3: But it's just disgusting. And also, here's the thing.
• 11:50
  Speaker 1: I don't do you remember what season it was that
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: when they were getting married, because I didn't write that down,
• 11:57
  Speaker 1: but I remember vividly watching because I'm a huge fan
• 12:00
  Speaker 1: of Atlanta. I've watched it from the beginning, and I
• 12:04
  Speaker 1: remember vividly that Candy like stood ten toes down and
• 12:08
  Speaker 1: she was like, we aren't doing this unless you sign
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: this prenup.
• 12:13
  Speaker 3: Yes, and that's it.
• 12:14
  Speaker 1: And they fought about it and it was drama for
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: the whole season, and then he was finally like he
• 12:19
  Speaker 1: just gave into it.
• 12:20
  Speaker 3: He got the same.
• 12:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, right, he should have given in a long time ago.
• 12:25
  Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, because it's like, what kind of
• 12:27
  Speaker 1: person I don't know I just I just think it's
• 12:29
  Speaker 1: so gross when people are trying to go for money grabs,
• 12:32
  Speaker 1: because Candy it's not like she comes from money. It's
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: not like she's a Southern charm mailbox money gal. She
• 12:40
  Speaker 1: worked and she you know, blood, sweat and toil for
• 12:44
  Speaker 1: all of this. She wrote some of the most amazing
• 12:46
  Speaker 1: songs no scrubs. I mean that, it's just like I
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: listened to it this morning and I think of Candy
• 12:52
  Speaker 1: and I'm just like, you're.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: A genius speaking of her music. I mean I immediately thought,
• 12:57
  Speaker 2: you know, once I saw the headline of divorce, I'm like, oh,
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: she's gonna writ some good music.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't you know, I don't know what's
• 13:02
  Speaker 2: going to come of it, but I know that whatever happens,
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: you know, she creates out of everything that she's in.
• 13:09
  Speaker 2: And I think this is going to be huge. When
• 13:12
  Speaker 2: you look back at that footage and you see the
• 13:15
  Speaker 2: way that they were arguing about this prenup at like
• 13:18
  Speaker 2: the wedding venue, Yeah, it's the most uncomfortable thing because
• 13:22
  Speaker 2: I keep thinking, like, how did Candy even go through
• 13:25
  Speaker 2: with this after having that argument with him, because like
• 13:28
  Speaker 2: they both walk away from the conversation and he's like,
• 13:32
  Speaker 2: but there are some things in there that I have
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: an issue with, and she's like, well, what are they?
• 13:36
  Speaker 2: Like you can't even say what they are? What are they?
• 13:39
  Speaker 2: And one of his points was, you know, getting if
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: something happens and we split, getting out of the house
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  Speaker 2: within thirty days, Like how am I supposed to find
• 13:48
  Speaker 2: a house within thirty days? You know? That was one
• 13:50
  Speaker 2: of them. And it's like she's like, I don't think
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  Speaker 2: that's it. You know what is It's like the lawyer
• 13:55
  Speaker 2: is the one.
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  Speaker 1: You know.
• 13:57
  Speaker 3: I I agree.
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: I think that he I don't care who you are
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: if you're going to be with a woman like Candy,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 14:07
  Speaker 3: There.
• 14:07
  Speaker 1: I just think Todd has always had some thirst. If
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: I'm being real, there's been some thirst to Todd. And
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: I think that sometimes the gender roles can come into
• 14:17
  Speaker 1: play because when you know, men typically feel really defined
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  Speaker 1: by their career and their job, and I mean Candy
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  Speaker 1: just eclipses Todd. And so I just feel like you
• 14:30
  Speaker 1: probably always had like a bruised ego, some you know,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: some hurt there and things like that, but at the
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: same time, like you suck, why are you doing this?
• 14:39
  Speaker 3: What is Yeah?
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: That's that to me is just like you're just trying
• 14:47
  Speaker 2: to hurt her. This has nothing to do with anything
• 14:51
  Speaker 2: other than you're being cruel.
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: That's exactly right, because I don't care what he says,
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  Speaker 1: how much he's out of town. Is there problems if
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: men do that? No, Look at Pique, he's out of town.
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: He spends one Saturday a month with his kid. You know,
• 15:07
  Speaker 1: it's like when men do it, it's fine. When women
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: do it, they're bad moms and I'm just not that's all.
• 15:14
  Speaker 3: We don't tolerate that here on Darling Bish Hour.
• 15:16
  Speaker 2: We don't know, we don't, don't, so don't.
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: We will keep you updated as news breaks on that.
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: But you know, Amy, I think it'll be good for
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: us to get into some Potomac.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: What do you think.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I love it. Let's do it, okay.
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: And you know, I am really happy we're covering Potomac today.
• 15:33
  Speaker 1: I hope everyone listening is happy too, the reason being
• 15:36
  Speaker 1: I have not covered Potomac yet, but it's one of
• 15:39
  Speaker 1: my favorite franchises and it's so fun and it's so interesting.
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: And I always joke that usually there's not a lot
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: of meat on the bone because these women here's what
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: I say about them as opposed to other franchises. Number One,
• 15:52
  Speaker 1: they're sane, well minus Stacy. I have some real problems
• 15:57
  Speaker 1: with Stacy. But oh my god, let's well, we'll get
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  Speaker 1: to that in just a moment.
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  Speaker 2: I didn't know we were jumping right in, right in,
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  Speaker 2: all right, okay, you know. Also tootle do.
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  Speaker 3: Oh, tootle do? What kind of insult is tootle do?
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  Speaker 3: That's not even right.
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: I know, I don't know. It was just like the
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: only thing that came out of her mouth that just
• 16:23
  Speaker 2: kind of like just it just it was funny. I
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: can't help it.
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Left so well, she is unintentionally funny. I mean, Stacy
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: is funny, but mostly are intentionally like when she wears
• 16:37
  Speaker 1: the same outfits as everyone and just just like well,
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: what I don't understand or you know, when she like
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: Stacy to me is like if a I were a
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: person that is Stacy. She's like the AI of people
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: I don't understand.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: And that that AI has been fed everyone's dms that
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: they're taking from us right now, you know, have you
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: heard about that? That now they're going to be reading
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: Instagram is going to be reading like their program is
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: going to be reading all of your dms and messages.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: Stop that, I'm serious, starting December sixteenth. But why so
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: that they can feed it into their AI beast. Oh
• 17:20
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  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and listen, I believe that to be
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  Speaker 3: Please get away from me with this.
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  Speaker 2: Oh that'll be the day when the housewives have like
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  Speaker 2: a therapy session with an AI.
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  Speaker 3: Oh literal literally, I mean.
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  Speaker 1: And it's like people are already using it chatchy BT
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  Speaker 1: for therapy and it's so bad. There have been deaths
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  Speaker 1: should not be a complete invasion of our privacy.
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  Speaker 3: And so that all makes me nervous.
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  Speaker 1: So basically this episode of Real House as a Potomac,
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  Speaker 1: what we're seeing is Monique is back and she's talking
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  Speaker 1: to Giselle.
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  Speaker 3: That was super interesting to me, Stacy.
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  Speaker 1: We're also seeing her launching her Nigerian named.
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: While Nigerian, I have an affinity towards Nigeria.
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  Speaker 1: You know, Amy, did you notice when she and Wendy
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  Speaker 1: were talking about this and she said that Wendy looked
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  Speaker 1: dead ass into the camera And it was the one
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  Speaker 1: moment I was like, I support that. I support that completely.
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  Speaker 1: She was just like she gave It was like the.
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  Speaker 2: Office, you know, John Krinsky.
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  Speaker 1: Really really really okay. And then Ashley breaks up with
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: poor Joshi boy on camera, I mean, which was just
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: plain rude. So we're going to get into all of it,
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: but yeah, what what if everything that happens stood out
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: to you the most daming?
• 19:42
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, Well, Monique in Giselle talking was incredible,
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: huge moment to have and I was thinking to myself, like, wow,
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: if I could have known where they would be like
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: years ago when the all happened, I don't think I
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: would believe it, you know, I don't know if I
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: would because of how horrible it was. And it's amazing
• 20:08
  Speaker 2: that Monique is even back on the show. It's amazing
• 20:11
  Speaker 2: that she's able to make it right with Gizelle, that
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: they were both able to, you know, take ownership. Monique
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: was incredible by explaining how she was playing the victim.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: I was like what and she couldn't see that and
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: protecting the reputation and all this stuff. It was just
• 20:30
  Speaker 2: it was phenomenal. And I was really impressed with Gazelle
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: as well. And I think Gizelle was very impressed with
• 20:37
  Speaker 2: Monique because when one of the things that she said
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: was like when you remember when they were talking, and
• 20:43
  Speaker 2: she's like, yeah, I'm sick of being like I was
• 20:45
  Speaker 2: playing the victim, and I was just like I was
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: the victim and I was being mad at everybody else
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: and so on and so forth, and I feel like
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: you did this, And then Gazelle was like, well hold on,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: like basically before you get to me, once you reflected uh,
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: what did you come up with?
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: Thank you?
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Let's show me your business receipts.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Please, I need I need the presentation. I need you
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: to keep talking before I even like remotely say I'm sorry,
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: which I thought was hilarious. It's such a Gazelle move.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: It is hilarious.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: But it is the second part of why there's not
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a lot for me to cover with Potomac is that
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: these women hold each other's feet to the flame. You
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: have to be accountable. It's like the opposite of O C.
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: It's the opposite of so many other franchises. They're like, listen,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: we're gonna talk real shit. You're gonna own it or
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: you're not. And if you don't, you don't work in
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: this group.
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: Basically, Ashley said something said yes, and that is it was.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: That's exactly I could put my finger on exactly. That
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: is what I love about Potomac is that they don't
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: suffer the Lisa Barlow's, the Meredith Marx's.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: They don't suffer.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Those types of fools who are just like so up
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: their own butts that they cannot be honest with fect
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: things going on.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: Remember at the party, it was Gazelle's party. Okay. And
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Gizelle kicked out Stacy at the end there because like
• 22:15
  Speaker 2: everyone was mad at her, and then she was like
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: goodbye because Stacy's like, well, I mean this is what
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: it's going to be. I'll leave. She's like, here's the
• 22:21
  Speaker 2: elevator later. Bye. And if you were to watch that,
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  Speaker 2: you think that Gizelle was in the wrong. You think, wow,
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: that is so mean, that is so rude, But honestly
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: it was. She was basically saying like, you can't stay
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  Speaker 2: here unless you come clean with your stuff, and that's
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: why they draw the line. And I kind of like
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  Speaker 2: them playing I kind of liked her playing hardball about
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: that because it draws a line, like you're saying about
• 22:46
  Speaker 2: why Pateelwick is as good as it is.
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: One thousand percent.
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: These women refuse to be contain victimhood. And I think
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: that Giselle's question it was It's so funny that you
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: caught onto that because it was such a small moment,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: but an important moment in terms of like, yeah, you
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: got to show your work, right, you know the answer
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: to the math problem, but I want to see how
• 23:09
  Speaker 1: you got there. And as you know, what I was
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: hearing from Monique, which By the way, I can already
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: tell that she healed. You know how I can tell
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: her behavior is different. Her behavior is totally different. Her
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: energy is different, her behavior is different. And that's the thing.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: People will do the same thing over and over and
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: claim to be changing.
• 23:27
  Speaker 3: Well, change is seen in our behaviors, not heard in
• 23:30
  Speaker 3: our words.
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: And continuing to say that you're changing, but like not
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: changing is actually just manipulation.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: So here's what Monique.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: Said that really like, it checked a lot of boxes
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: in my brain.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: She said, that's boxes, those boxes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay.
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  Speaker 3: I love that she after her.
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: So basically the Candace and her fight was, she explained,
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: was like the straw that broke the camel's back. It
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: sounds like Monique was saying that in her marriage she
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: was a perfectionist with herself, her husband was expecting perfection
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: from her. Obviously, there were some issues between her and Chris,
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: and we have now also heard allegations that Chris Samuels
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: allegedly strangled Monique Samuels during their relationships. So what I think,
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: what I put the pieces together after she talks about this,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: is that she says after the marriage she healed and
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: self reflected and learned she was too busy being the
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: victim and blaming others for her problems, which top tier
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: healing says, and Bronwin is really good at this.
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: Okay of that phrase top tier healing. I want to
• 24:46
  Speaker 2: be in the top tier of healing. I don't know
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: which tier I am, but I don't think i'm top tier. Well,
• 24:52
  Speaker 2: I don't know.
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: You're doing great, Amy ik you Yeah, okay, your top
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: tier to me, I can't judge you, but okay, But like,
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: truly top tier healing is, in my opinion, like being
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: humble and owning, like, okay, the.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Thing, I'm sorry, keep going, just ignore me. I have
• 25:17
  Speaker 2: nothing to offer. I'm just gonna cheer you on.
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: Oh my god, shoul should at me. Oh my gosh,
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: that's funny.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: But it does require you to be like, okay, So
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: even when someone else does you wrong, like you still
• 25:31
  Speaker 1: play a role in that relationship. If things are escalating,
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Angie k and Lisa Barlow, they like to be like, well,
• 25:37
  Speaker 1: you shot first, so now I'm gonna chop your head off,
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: and it's like that's low tier healing.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: Lt LTCH is.
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: When you look at someone's behavior and use that as
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: an excuse to be like inappropriate, and it's like, well,
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: that's not That doesn't give anyone a haul pass to
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: be an asshole. So I feel like Mon was basically
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: saying she also worked really hard on things with her parents.
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: So I'm assuming and understanding that she had some childhood
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: trauma that she had to sort out with her parents,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: because she said, and I quote the situation with Candace,
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: she was triggered and admitted that she was triggered. She
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  Speaker 1: acted out, but it triggered her being the worst version
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: of herself, triggered her whole spiritual journey. And I think, wow,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: now that's top tier healing to be like, wow, look
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: at this.
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: It changed the trajectory of her life.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: But like in the best of ways, I would almost
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: argue it needed to happen so that she could be
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: her true, authentic self, you know what I mean.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I do. I was thinking back on after that incident
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: happened at the wine like the winery where they were, Yeah,
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: you know, quickly after that during that season. When I
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: say quickly, I mean maybe even like maybe it was
• 27:10
  Speaker 2: two weeks before this even happened, because there was a
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: good amount of time before all these ladies like really
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: engaged with Monique, but she met with I remember a
• 27:21
  Speaker 2: pastor if you recall, yes it was it was Chris,
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: it was a Monique and it was a pastor and
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: they filmed that and she was remorseful, but it wasn't.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: It wasn't. I feel like it hadn't clicked yet. It
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: didn't click yet, you know it. So I wonder at
• 27:39
  Speaker 2: what point it did because if she's saying, like, you know,
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: that's really when I had an awakening, because it sounds
• 27:45
  Speaker 2: like it was probably the catalyst. But when something like
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: that big happens, Melissa, do you have like an immediate awakening,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: like the next day where you're like, I can't You're
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: so shocked that you acted that way that you're like,
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: something needs to change. I have so many issues that
• 28:03
  Speaker 2: I need to work through. Or is it kind of
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: like more of a stepping stone situation where you go
• 28:11
  Speaker 2: from one stone to the next and it's a slow
• 28:13
  Speaker 2: burn until you really like open your eyes and say, oh,
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: that's even worse than I thought. And Nonique do that.
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Yes, so yes she did it, and b it's a
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: slow burn. And here's the thing. I saw this instagram,
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  Speaker 1: this thing on Instagram the other day that it's like
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: a therapist had said that what society likes to do
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: is use healing.
• 28:36
  Speaker 3: As an era. But healing isn't an era.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: Healing is grueling, blood, sweat, and tears that last your
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  Speaker 1: whole life. And I hate to I know, I know,
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: and listen. I can speak to that because I've I'm
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: doing the work. I've done the work, I'm continuing to
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: do the work. I go to my own bish therapist
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: every Tuesday. I said one, I'm gonna be here until
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: one of us die, so or you retire, whatever comes first,
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: because it's.
• 29:05
  Speaker 2: Your really lies Shannon but Dor next to David, next
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: to my therapist. Yeah, well they they stayed there until
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: someone died too. Wait, Melissa is holding up a candle
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  Speaker 2: that says, oh, it's nine lemons, a.
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: Real Housewives candle.
• 29:24
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  Speaker 3: So I mean I think it's a problem.
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  Speaker 2: I thank you. Yeah, yeah, that's a great candle.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I think that you know not to be
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: a total bummer.
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: But like healing isn't an.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: Era, it's a lifelong process. It's equal parts freeing and beautiful.
• 37:19
  Speaker 1: It is grueling and challenging.
• 37:21
  Speaker 3: And Monique is the type of.
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: Person where, for for instance, if she had gone to
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: that meeting and like pretended to be another person, that
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: would have been a red flag because you can't have
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: that sustained level of change and insight overnight. That is
• 37:38
  Speaker 1: change that you can only get from going to a
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: therapist working hard on seeing your blind spots.
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: That takes a lot of time.
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been in therapy for years and there's
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: still things from week to week and I'm very insightful
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: and I'm very aware, and A'll think of or things
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: will come up from week to week and I'm like,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: oh my gosh, that's why I've been doing this or
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: whatever and talking about me. So I just am trying
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: to validate for people that it is a really hard process.
• 38:05
  Speaker 2: It's a lifestone. I mean, like, for example, I have
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: bangs now, and it's a lifestyle. Okay, it's you can't
• 38:13
  Speaker 2: just go to the hairstylist, get bangs and then like
• 38:15
  Speaker 2: walk away and it's a done deal. You guys, every
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: day I have to show up and do the work.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Do you think they wake up like this? No, I
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: mean it's it's a lot more work than you think.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: You got to dig deep, you know, stay away from
• 38:31
  Speaker 2: the round brush. You gotta know. I'm kidding, all right,
• 38:34
  Speaker 2: I digress, But it's.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: A good analogy. Amy, I'm not kidding.
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: And by the way, for people watching the video. I
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: told it, Amy as soon as the stars like, oh,
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: your banks are looking banging, and then I didn't realize
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: that I was actually sexually harassing her. So I'm sorry
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: about that, but I.
• 38:49
  Speaker 2: Beauty, I'm totally I'm consenting. But you know, I have
• 38:53
  Speaker 2: to go. I want to go back and watch that
• 38:55
  Speaker 2: theme with Monique and the pastor and Chris, because it
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: wasn't as if she was putting on a character like
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: you were saying, she I as I remember, she was definite.
• 39:06
  Speaker 2: She wasn't like crying on the floor, which I would
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: have thought she should be doing. That's the reaction that
• 39:12
  Speaker 2: I would have I wanted from her, like what have
• 39:15
  Speaker 2: I become? My hands?
• 39:17
  Speaker 3: Like wooh, I am I my hands?
• 39:18
  Speaker 2: Like you know, I just that's what well.
• 39:21
  Speaker 3: Amy. Let me tell you something though, not to interrupt.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Is that, yeah, when people are truly triggered and they're
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: acting out of that, they're going to appear dissociated and
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: maybe shut down. Like that level of emotionality is usually
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: not possible in people who are really having a trauma
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: reaction because and that's the nature.
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: Of the reaction. So you're right, but her reaction.
• 39:49
  Speaker 1: Tells me that everything she's saying was true, is that
• 39:52
  Speaker 1: she was in shock, she was triggered, and she was
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: processing it because she seemed really shut.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: Down and angry.
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: And sometimes it's not until we see our role that
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: we can let that anger go and be like, oh,
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: I see how I participated, right, So it's yeah, it's
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: it's a process.
• 40:10
  Speaker 2: Take me to church, Malca.
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: You're reading it.
• 40:14
  Speaker 2: Wow, that was amazing. That just blew my mind. You know,
• 40:19
  Speaker 2: it makes so much sense she because she did seem
• 40:22
  Speaker 2: like sorry, but also kind of like that's I did
• 40:28
  Speaker 2: that and I don't understand what the problem is and
• 40:32
  Speaker 2: I want to understand, but also like fuck her and like, yeah,
• 40:37
  Speaker 2: I'm defending myself. You know, she wasn't quite there yet,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: and it makes so much sense. And you know, what
• 40:43
  Speaker 2: people want and like I wanted in that moment and
• 40:47
  Speaker 2: in many many times, and when they had these huge
• 40:50
  Speaker 2: events with housewives, is you want the housewife to come
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: like lay prostrate and just flog themselves and say how
• 40:58
  Speaker 2: sorry they are and cry and bet forgiveness and be
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: like I can't believe this and just humble themselves. And
• 41:03
  Speaker 2: that never happens, I mean probably never will.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: I know, And there's probably many reasons for that, Amy, uh,
• 41:14
  Speaker 1: but to know that the stepping stones to healing that
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: we have been able to now see full circle where
• 41:22
  Speaker 1: Monique was and where she is now is extremely remarkable
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: to witness on a housewives show.
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: And I never thought we'd be here, Like, it's very exciting.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Preach now you preach, Amy, you're taking me to church. Yes,
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: that's exactly right, and that is for me. One of
• 41:39
  Speaker 1: the things that I love about this franchise is that
• 41:42
  Speaker 1: it's like, get on board the accountability train or fuck off,
• 41:46
  Speaker 1: And I love that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 2: Do you think Gizelle should take accountability for anything?
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, and I'm gonna be honest.
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: Giselle's part of owning her stuff was like, oh yeah,
• 41:59
  Speaker 1: I own it. But see, Monique didn't do what Giselle did,
• 42:02
  Speaker 1: which she should have been like own what per se ned?
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Right? Right? Exactly? What can you tell me? Can you
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: unfold that for me? And I think Gazelle can justify why.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: She doesn't need to explain as much because she didn't
• 42:13
  Speaker 2: put her hands on anyone, But I think that it's
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: still important. It seems like Gizelle, as much as I
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: bow down my queen, I love her h and she
• 42:23
  Speaker 2: does hold people accountable. But Monique had such a good
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: point where she's like, you put yourself in other people's
• 42:28
  Speaker 2: relationships and that's not right in the real world. We
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: love it on Houswis, but like she's doing her job
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: on the Housewives and she knows it. But at what
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: point can can she be allowed to take accountability for
• 42:43
  Speaker 2: that being too invasive and wrong? Gizelle was telling two
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: of the other ladies like Tia and and Kianna, like
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: she was so excited about Monique, like she was talking
• 42:57
  Speaker 2: about you know, she didn't expect it to go as
• 42:59
  Speaker 2: well as it did, and she was very excited about
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: Monique because coming on the show, because she's got energy
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: and she's going to bring something. Oh, She's like because
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: she said to Kierana, She's like, you're new your proper
• 43:13
  Speaker 2: Monique's going to bring me something, right, And that is
• 43:16
  Speaker 2: exactly the way that Gazelle thinks, what are you doing
• 43:19
  Speaker 2: for this show? How are you showing up? You're bringing nothing?
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: What do you have for me? What can I cook with?
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: You know, bring me something? And she knew that Monique
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: had it, and Monique did so like that's her perspective,
• 43:32
  Speaker 2: that's part of it.
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: I mean, And that is such a good point too,
• 43:36
  Speaker 1: because again, as much as I do about to Giselle,
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: I love Jaseelle. She is top five favorite housewife of
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: mine for sure. But the thing that does bother me
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: is she wants everyone to talk about their stuff.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: She wants everyone to be held accountable.
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: She's not a big talker of her stuff. I mean,
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: I think that's one thing that we've seen of Giselle
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: over these years.
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: Now.
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: Has she talked more about Jamal and some of those things, Yes,
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: but she definitely struggles to be as open as I
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: think she expects other people to be right. And I
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: feel like that is like Gizelle can get away with
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: it because she does have such a big, beautiful, bold personality.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: She's so funny, she's so quick, she's so personable and lovely,
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: But there is that little piece of herd that it's like, well,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: what exactly are you owning? And what are your storylines?
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Like what let's talk about you right right about your
• 44:36
  Speaker 1: daughters or your dad or Jamal.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Let's talk about Gizelle.
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: And let's talk about how she is the queen of
• 44:44
  Speaker 2: one shoulder, you know, body fitting dresses. I have a
• 44:49
  Speaker 2: slide show. Just from this episode. Here we go. If
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: you're watching this, gorgeous it's actually like a Ramona Blue,
• 44:56
  Speaker 2: like a Royal Mona blue. Yep, a dress us off
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: the shoulder, one sleeve. Okay, within moments we have a flashback,
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: Oh do this off the shoulder look, and then later
• 45:13
  Speaker 2: we have a whole other look. Oh here it is gorgeous.
• 45:18
  Speaker 2: In her confessional, I mean gorgeous. That's three in one
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: episode three.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: You know, Giselle, I think because she's been so poned
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: for her fashion choices that she I think she's really
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: trying to step it up, because I mean, she's got
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: to be tired of hearing that over the years.
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: Oh my god. I also think she kind of doesn't
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: care too. I think she's like, this works, this is
• 45:44
  Speaker 2: this fit works for me, and I'm going to do
• 45:46
  Speaker 2: it in every capacity that I can. And I love
• 45:49
  Speaker 2: that for her. Just like a Genta Lions loves a
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: button down, Jeelle loves that one shoulder, one sleeve dress.
• 45:56
  Speaker 3: I mean, listen, you're right about that. And we could
• 45:59
  Speaker 3: talk about her fashions all day, but let us move.
• 46:02
  Speaker 2: Where are we gonna go?
• 46:03
  Speaker 3: Okay, here's where I think we should go next. I
• 46:06
  Speaker 3: think we should talk a little bit about.
• 46:09
  Speaker 1: Ashley's rich daddy fetish and dumping a man who she
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: was in a relationship with for a year on national television.
• 46:24
  Speaker 3: That was a choice, Amy, that was a choice.
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that he dropped a you all prerogative
• 46:31
  Speaker 2: and then like walk out so nice. I was like,
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: that's it. This guy's okay, all right.
• 46:37
  Speaker 1: He's like, well, I guess if that's how you feel, okay,
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: can I walk you out?
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah, can I walk you out? Wow?
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: It was like it felt like an episode of the Bachelor,
• 46:46
  Speaker 2: just like they just got to know each other. It's like,
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: can I walk you out? You know? I mean right,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: You're not going to give you a rose.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Right exactly. It's like there, they've known you for five minutes.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: But she's known this man for a year. And what
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: I did not like about this. So Ashley talks about like,
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: you know, I think she called it like living swanky right,
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: like she had she's used to swanky guys, which you know,
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: like Michael and the guys that she dated on you know,
• 47:15
  Speaker 1: private jets and all this other stuff. But it's like Ashley, girl, girl,
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: look where that has gotten.
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: You well, scotten her two beautiful kids, a gorgeous house,
• 47:28
  Speaker 2: a starring role in a reality show.
• 47:32
  Speaker 1: I think you might be, but I'm sing she's still
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: single and she's looking for love.
• 47:41
  Speaker 3: So here's the thing.
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: I think she saw Michael as a stepping stone, I think,
• 47:47
  Speaker 1: and I understand, like I also love Ashley, She's one
• 47:51
  Speaker 1: of my top five as well. Ashley and Giselle are
• 47:54
  Speaker 1: in the tops. Love them, and she has every right
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to want her life to be the way that it
• 47:59
  Speaker 1: is in some people want to live super comfortably and
• 48:02
  Speaker 1: have a lot of money, and like, I'm not going
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: to I'm not going to give her, you know, short
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: shrift for that. But I just feel like she's had
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: a lot of trouble in love. And while your point
• 48:14
  Speaker 1: was super good that her life is good, in a
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: lot of ways, she seems lonely and she's looking for companionship.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: So I guess I suggest maybe use different criteria because
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: you just broke up with a man who was willing
• 48:29
  Speaker 1: to do anything for you, but he's not a guy
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: that can take her to Paris on a private jet.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: And I think at the end of the day, she
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: doesn't want a regular dude, no, she wants.
• 48:40
  Speaker 3: To you're scatty.
• 48:41
  Speaker 2: Yes, so you said fetish. Is that considered a fetish
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: when you when you want a wealthy person in the relationship.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: Okay, I was being silly and bushy a little bit.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: I don't think it is in her situation, like yeah, yeah, no,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: I was just being snarky.
• 48:59
  Speaker 2: But here's the thing. It does seem like she tried
• 49:03
  Speaker 2: out the whole younger guy or like in her age
• 49:08
  Speaker 2: group situation. And I mean they're at an arcade, you know,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: like if there's ever a perfect place to dump a guy,
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: that says it all. I think the second he was like,
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: let's go to an arcade. This is a sweet game
• 49:22
  Speaker 2: I want to show you, and she's like, I have
• 49:24
  Speaker 2: seasickness from that game. So we're not on the same page.
• 49:29
  Speaker 2: Don't want to give you kids a today like Bybee.
• 49:34
  Speaker 2: So she tried it, and even on Love Island with
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: wal A, he couldn't even get there. You know. It's like,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: so is it like, is it wrong to be attracted
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: to an old if that's what gets you going, If
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: that's what gets you going in life, to be attracted
• 49:52
  Speaker 2: to an older man who has money, Is that so
• 49:56
  Speaker 2: wrong and is it real love?
• 49:59
  Speaker 3: Well, to me, those are two different questions.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: When you know you're in you know, the LA area
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: and people there, there's a lot of beauty, there's a
• 50:06
  Speaker 1: lot of flash and glisten glamour, but guess what that fades?
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: And money hopefully it doesn't fade, but at some point
• 50:13
  Speaker 1: it's like, what is that gonna do for you? Exactly right?
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: You need more than just like beauty or money, right
• 50:22
  Speaker 1: or whatever. While I think that she doesn't necessarily need
• 50:28
  Speaker 1: it to be happy, I feel like that's her preference
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: right now because now that she's kind of a Bravo lab,
• 50:35
  Speaker 1: I just feel like she doesn't want to go back
• 50:38
  Speaker 1: to a regular life.
• 50:39
  Speaker 2: No. And I think the other thing behind it too,
• 50:42
  Speaker 2: is that the way that she was raised, she was
• 50:47
  Speaker 2: not in a situation that was ideal. And I think
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: that when you're raised in a situation where you're always
• 50:53
  Speaker 2: worried about money to the extent which it sounds like
• 50:56
  Speaker 2: they were, you have I'm sure I don't don't even
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: know how to explain it. I'm sure you do, because.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: Financial insecurity, financial insecurity.
• 51:06
  Speaker 2: Thank you, right? I sounded so aggressive. I'm like, I'm
• 51:09
  Speaker 2: sure you do. But I an't like that.
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: I mean, and then I was like, financial insecurity. That's
• 51:15
  Speaker 3: a name for it. You're exactly right, Amy, So.
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: She would you say that she's basically living out of
• 51:21
  Speaker 2: financial sec insecurity because she has never done any t
• 51:28
  Speaker 2: you know, even though she has a song healing and
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: I'm Thriving, you know, she does, she.
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: Does have that song.
• 51:36
  Speaker 1: Gosh, people make fun of Ashley, but some of her
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: songs are pretty good. I will say that now. I
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: know her live performances.
• 51:42
  Speaker 3: Leave a little bit to be desired, but my god.
• 51:44
  Speaker 2: When she acapella, she's great. When she gets up on stage,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: just got monitors and stuff, she can't ever really sync
• 51:51
  Speaker 2: up to what's happening and that, and I noticed that,
• 51:55
  Speaker 2: and she's I think she's got a great voice, So.
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: I think so too.
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: But to your point, I absolutely think that that informs
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: her decision having to struggle with her mom. And in
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: this episode specifically, she brought up how Uncle Lump had
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: to step in and buy her school clothes and help
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: pay for her college and things like that, and now
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: Ashley's stepping in for her younger sister, who, by the way,
• 52:17
  Speaker 1: they filmed this scene where you know, the younger sister
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: was crying because so Ashley's younger sister from Ashley's mom
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: and stepdad, but it's the sister's biological father and he
• 52:29
  Speaker 1: is an alcoholic, and seeing her cry about that, it
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: just made me feel like I wish she would go
• 52:38
  Speaker 1: to alan On because allan On is a really great
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: place for family members of alcoholics to get a lot
• 52:46
  Speaker 1: of validation, a lot of support and understanding. But I
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: can tell that she's young and she's still not sure
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: where she wants to go with that yet. But I
• 52:55
  Speaker 1: really loved that scene between Ashley and her sister.
• 52:58
  Speaker 2: Oh my god, that broke my heart. It really really did.
• 53:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't expect. You know. You can see Jessica with
• 53:03
  Speaker 2: this smile on her face, just trying to like, you know,
• 53:07
  Speaker 2: be cool, you know, and just be there in present,
• 53:09
  Speaker 2: and and it just went from like the smile and
• 53:12
  Speaker 2: trying to that to just the hard cry. Oh my god,
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: it broke my heart. You know, I wanted to ask
• 53:19
  Speaker 2: you when she was explaining about like the reason why
• 53:23
  Speaker 2: she left home. She doesn't want to go back there
• 53:25
  Speaker 2: because of her dad and his longtime struggle with addiction,
• 53:30
  Speaker 2: and she's like he's been like this for fifty for
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: like forty or fifty years, and you know he's not.
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: And but she said, she was like, I mean, I
• 53:39
  Speaker 2: do blame them for letting it go this long and
• 53:45
  Speaker 2: so and I kept rewinding him, like she said them,
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: And I think she's obviously talking about you know, their mom,
• 53:52
  Speaker 2: Ashley's mom, and so like, what does that say? Do
• 53:58
  Speaker 2: you think that Ashley's do you think that their mom
• 54:01
  Speaker 2: is an alcoholic? Also? Oh, I mean that's like things
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: that we can't don't answer that just don't answer.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: I even said it. YBT has been canceled. No, I'm
• 54:11
  Speaker 3: just kidding.
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: I mean maybe the enabling is what she's referring to.
• 54:16
  Speaker 3: I think you're onto something.
• 54:17
  Speaker 1: So obviously I cannot judge that, but I think you're
• 54:20
  Speaker 1: onto something in that Ashley's mother stayed with this man
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: and was codependent and enabled him for too long. Because
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: while addiction is a terrible disease, it deserves a lot
• 54:34
  Speaker 1: of empathy, it also deserves to be checked and it
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: also needs to be held accountable and to say, okay,
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: well this is but we need you to do better.
• 54:45
  Speaker 1: I need you to do better, And the only way
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: through that is boundaries. Boundaries boundaries, and so I think
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: that they both blame Ashley's mother for not having boundaries,
• 54:55
  Speaker 1: for enabling for being codependent, and I would here's the
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: thing I have. I've not met a ton of folks
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: who are married and stay married to someone in active
• 55:05
  Speaker 1: addiction without their own struggles, whether it be substances or
• 55:10
  Speaker 1: mental health or something of the like.
• 55:13
  Speaker 3: I have. Not doesn't mean it can't happen. It's just
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: rare to see.
• 55:18
  Speaker 2: Wow, you know, I don't think you know, obviously their
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: mom isn't ninety years old. You know, she's not eighty five.
• 55:27
  Speaker 2: She's having health problems, Okay, we all know that. When
• 55:30
  Speaker 2: she was like I'm bleeding out of my ears, it's like,
• 55:32
  Speaker 2: what the fuck? You know, Like, oh my, well she
• 55:35
  Speaker 2: didn't say that, but whatever she was saying, like she's
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: vomiting and blood's coming up. I'm just like, can we
• 55:40
  Speaker 2: get this woman to the er right now? Why are
• 55:42
  Speaker 2: we filming? That was extremely alarming, and so I can't
• 55:46
  Speaker 2: help but think, is she just like, well, I mean,
• 55:49
  Speaker 2: I don't really have much more time, So why would
• 55:52
  Speaker 2: I bother dealing with this situation? Anyway? It's just gonna
• 55:55
  Speaker 2: cause a lot of problems and a lot of emotional
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: issues that I really don't feel like dealing with. And
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: part of me is like I kind of don't blame
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: her because, like, you know, why upset the Apple card?
• 56:06
  Speaker 2: At this point, he'll probably die pretty soon if he
• 56:09
  Speaker 2: continues to drink like this And if she has such
• 56:12
  Speaker 2: this is a horrible thing to say. Maybe edit it out.
• 56:15
  Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm just saying, like, you know,
• 56:18
  Speaker 2: is she looking at the clock and thinking, you know,
• 56:21
  Speaker 2: thank you for your concern. I get it, you're right,
• 56:23
  Speaker 2: but like you know, we're looking at you know, we
• 56:26
  Speaker 2: got you know, one more quarter left in the game,
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: So why do anything? You know?
• 56:31
  Speaker 3: Is that part of it?
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: Oh?
• 56:33
  Speaker 3: People, here's the thing.
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: People don't like change, and it's for a million reasons.
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: But your point is valid in that I always I
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: used to give this example when I was in practice
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: of like, sometimes when we have these behaviors that aren't
• 56:47
  Speaker 1: healthy for us, I liken it too. Laying in a
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: pile of our own garbage. It's garbage, but it's lap
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: to us and we're used to the smell and it's
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: kind of warm. But someone helps us up out of
• 56:59
  Speaker 1: the garbage pile, and you're like, oh, my god, I
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: was laying in there and I was fine, And I
• 57:04
  Speaker 1: think sometimes unfortunately that's just human nature. It's like the
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: devil you know is better than the devil you don't.
• 57:10
  Speaker 1: But at the same time, that's not necessarily true, because
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: what I would advocate is, I don't care if you
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: have ten minutes of time left. Yeah, do it different
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: so that not only if you can be happier, but
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: your kids can be happier. Because look at how it's
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: impacting Ashley and her sister.
• 57:28
  Speaker 2: I just you know, I mean, you know, to have
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: to think that if she's thinking this way, that is
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: really sad. And because the other side of it is like,
• 57:40
  Speaker 2: if you do make changes, like it's never too late, right,
• 57:43
  Speaker 2: if you do make changes, you can extend your life.
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: His life would be extended, you know, your children's lives
• 57:51
  Speaker 2: could get closer to being to getting some tt you know, right, right,
• 57:59
  Speaker 2: And and so it makes me sad.
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: It's as it should, because it is sad to watch
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: people live in their piles of garbage.
• 58:07
  Speaker 3: That is very sad to me.
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: And that's why dedicated my life to helping people be like,
• 58:11
  Speaker 1: see there's.
• 58:12
  Speaker 3: A better way. Take my hand, come with me.
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: You are too good for that pile of garbage. And
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: so I think that at the end of the day,
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: between like Monique and you know, Ashley and all of this,
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: the message is that top tier healing is I highly
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: recommend for everyone because everyone listening to this deserves it.
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: It's scary and it's hard to try new things, to
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: live differently, to break out of what you're used to.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: But at the end of that rainbow is freedom and happiness,
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: and so I just support it one hundred percent. But
• 58:44
  Speaker 1: it's hard and it's scary, and so I never fault
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: people for being unable to set those boundaries right. Ashley's mom.
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: I think Ashley is very strong and inde pennant, and
• 58:56
  Speaker 1: I think she developed that because she sees how her
• 58:59
  Speaker 1: mom struggles with.
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: The opposite of that. Yeah, but you know, we could
• 59:05
  Speaker 3: talk about this, Yeah, oh my god, she really is.
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: She could talk.
• 59:10
  Speaker 2: Kind Okay, so what should we talk about? The pop ups?
• 59:15
  Speaker 2: The launch of Shioh and the pop up of ed
• 59:19
  Speaker 2: Wendy and Eddie's and like the how they kept going
• 59:22
  Speaker 2: back with the smoke transition that killed me. Good Night
• 59:29
  Speaker 2: here lies Shannon b Door Like that was amazing.
• 59:32
  Speaker 1: I know it was so amazing and super shady, but
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: also hilarious because it's like Wendy's like, well, I'm not
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: invited to your event. Well camera's up, Annie Dandy camera,
• 59:41
  Speaker 1: because we're at Happy Eddie.
• 59:43
  Speaker 3: And it's like there was like dueling THHD events and
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: I just love that.
• 59:47
  Speaker 2: But and then for it to end with Wendy at
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: the card reader, like, oh my god.
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: So for those who didn't see it or didn't watch,
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: she was at the card reader paying for Happy Eddie
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: and it kept declining, and she claims she kept forgetting
• 1:00:04
  Speaker 1: her pin and she had to do it a bunch
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: of times. And that is really wacky timing considering what
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 1: they're being accused of is using forty different credit cards
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 1: and aliases and all this other stuff. So to me,
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 1: that was one moment of some smoking hot tea that
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: I was like, well, that doesn't lie.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 2: No, And it made me think like, did the editors
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 2: go back and put that in after this whole thing
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: has gone down? You know? Are they looking for these
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 2: moments and purpose?
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 3: You have to think, right.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: I mean that, yeah, that seems too niche for them
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: to have just like originally included because I was like,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: oh girl. And then when she finally got it, she
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 1: like celebrated and I was like, yeah, the whole thing
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 1: it rubbed me very wrong, awkward.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 2: Was so you think she just wanted the like wheel
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 2: of fortune, you know, slot machine or something.
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: I know, and she's like, oh good, I didn't get
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: embarrassed on TV.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Now, Like, so, do you think that Stacy is a liar? Like,
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 2: because the way that Ashley is handling Stacy is I mean,
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 2: I couldn't. I can't disagree with her because she's like,
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 2: I won't give it to you if you stop bringing
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 2: it to me, Like stop bringing it to me, and
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 2: I won't give it to you, meaning like stop with
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 2: the lies and then I won't try to haze you. Essentially.
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 2: Oh god, that the when they were like talking over
• 1:01:33
  Speaker 2: each other, you know, oh yeah, that was so.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: You know what that gave me, That gave me old
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: school Ninie and Charat remember that fight on the staircase.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 2: Oh god, it was giving me.
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it was like a deluded version of that because
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: no one could ever match Ninie and Charat's like angry
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: energy when they're fighting, Like those two women they were
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: just eviserating each other, and you know when Charay was
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: like oh, oh my god, Yes, that's so I miss.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: So No.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: I think what Ashley's saying is don't do things and
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: then we won't call you out on them, but if
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 1: you're doing things, we're gonna call you out. Stacy has
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 1: a problem with lying. She cannot get her story straight.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: She lives the most odd life.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: Again. Now here's the thing.
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 1: So last season she was, uh, you know, had this
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: fake storyline with TJ. And now it seems like with
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: her husband, it's like it's giving fake storyline again because
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: it's like where is he? He's never around, he's always traveling.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: And then it's like, yeah, oh well I couldn't come
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: to this event because he's out of town.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 3: A wait, he's back. She Stacy has trouble with.
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 1: The truth, and I personally do not like to mess
• 1:02:50
  Speaker 1: with people who have problems with the truth, Like no man. Significantly,
• 1:02:55
  Speaker 1: she really has troubles.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: You know when in the reunion and she is flat
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 2: out asked by Gazelle are you doing I heard you
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 2: doing your own happy Eddy line and she's like, I
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: am not. And then two months later, Wow, that came
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 2: together quickly. It's like, what how are you not lying?
• 1:03:14
  Speaker 2: And how would Gizelle, have any idea you think that
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 2: she just pulled this out of a hat and made
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 2: it up. She obviously heard something.
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: Pulls on Stacy to make this her storyline after denying it.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 3: At the reunion. Do you see what I'm saying there?
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: Is the thought process of Liars is so wild to me,
• 1:03:35
  Speaker 1: where it's like, so you're gonna lie and deny this,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: but now it's your storyline and you don't want people
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: to be mad about it?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 3: What are you talking about? Stacy?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 2: Wow, that takes can't unnerved. That takes a lot of
• 1:03:50
  Speaker 2: delusion to think that you can just skate through this show. Also, yeah, delusion,
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 2: and also the first season when she came on thinking
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 2: that she can parade around a TJ and act like
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: they're actually in a relationship, when in fact, I do
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 2: believe that, Like she what, they had a contract and
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 2: she was gonna pay. I totally believe that.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen receipts at this point, number one
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: and number two her and TJ had no they didn't
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: and now it all makes sense why their relationship seems
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: so odd because they didn't know each other.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 3: He was playing a role or whatever.
• 1:04:25
  Speaker 1: So I mean, I still think he could have played
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: it a little bit cooler and nicer and not been
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: such a weirdo. But listen, that was his his method acting.
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: I don't I don't know what, but let us maybe
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 1: was there anything else before we move on to our
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 1: holiday survival suggestions that you wanted to mention.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, I think that I think I
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 2: uh oh, the ring. I was very supposed to see
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 2: Greg going to get a ring. I was kind of shocked.
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 2: It was.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: I almost barfed because I was like, why why is
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 1: this woman still choosing this man? Number one and number two?
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: He was looking at rings that were one hundred and
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 1: eighty thousand dollars. Do you know the average price or
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: the average salary of a social worker? Amy, it's like
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: thirty to forty grand a year depending and honestly, yeah,
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: and I'm talking also about master's level people. Therapists you
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: make no money unless you're in private practice and then
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: you charge insurance.
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 3: But what that was what blew my mind.
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: I'm like, so you're looking at this five carrot ring
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: your job as a social worker or whatever, that's like
• 1:05:37
  Speaker 1: four year salary. So what are we talking about here?
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 2: It was clearly a commercial for that jeweler.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: Right, because he was like, oh, I'm not getting anything now, no, no, no, no, no,
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: We're just we're just pretending that I'm going to give
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: her a two million dollar twenty carrot ring.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 3: I was like, greg Or, greg or whatever your name is,
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: get out of here.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, weird. But I was surprised because I didn't
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 2: think there was going to be ring and that was
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 2: just condo condo town and that was it, you know.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: Oh well, and oh the one thing I do have
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 1: to say before we wrap up is that, uh wait,
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 1: what is her name?
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 3: I block it out because they don't like no Angel?
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 2: Is it Angel Angel?
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: Uh huh yeah, I'm not a fan of Angel. Angel
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 1: literally said that Kay should get married because they're middle
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 1: aged and they're in the thirties, and she goes, well,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: being thirties is middle aged, and I'm like, so you're
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 1: essentially encouraging your friend to get engaged to a douche
• 1:06:37
  Speaker 1: who sucks because you think you don't want her to
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: be an old maid.
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 3: Yikesers.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that did not go down well with me either,
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 2: and I took a lot of issue with that. Very strange,
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: very very bizarre.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: But anyway, so what Amy and I are going to
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: transition to now is Amy had a wonderful idea of
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 1: doing a little bit of our suggestions to survive the
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: upcoming holidays.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 3: No matter what people celebrate, whether it's Christmas hanakookwon.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: So, whether you don't celebrate, or you know, it's just
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 1: the time of year, it's dark earlier, lots of family stuff.
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 3: People are really peoply in the world.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: You know, so we have some people are peoplaying, honey.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: So we have some suggestions, and Amy, would you like
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 1: to share?
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: Did you have a thought? Yeah, like I do.
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 2: First, Yes, I think everyone should take a THHC gummy
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 2: when you know when they should. And I think you
• 1:07:39
  Speaker 2: should use my code drama for Loomy gummies. They're really good.
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: I didn't I honestly wasn't into anticipating doing an ad here.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 2: But it's completely organic because I was going to say,
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: take gummies. But if you're at it, you do Loomy.
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 2: They're really really good because you know, no one's going
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: to really know if you do like kind of a
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: lower dose than you just like have a gummy you're
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 2: out with your family, you know, just as long as
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: you're safe, don't drive, you know, and it can relax you.
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 2: You can things can maybe bounce off you a little
• 1:08:10
  Speaker 2: bit easier. It's better than alcohol because you never know
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 2: where alcohol is going to take you. You know, you
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 2: might get you might get really angry. You know, you
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 2: might cry. You're going to be triggered no matter what. Okay,
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: being around friends, families, looking at social media, it's all
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 2: going to be popping up all around you. So that's
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 2: my first one.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, and what I will say to that is
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: that alcohol to pair on your point is that alcohol
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 1: is a depressant. So if you are depressed, which around
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 1: this time of year is really challenging, seasonal effective disorder
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: on top of regular depression. You know, it's a real thing,
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: and so be mindful of that, and also be mindful
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: of what. I have a lot of people who listen
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: to this that are in recovery, and so if you
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: are in recovery, then you skip suggestion numero you know,
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 1: and we for everyone else, what is.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 2: It that happen again?
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: Gloomy gummy maybe and maybe code drama. Okay, very good.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: My number one suggestion is boundaries. Boundaries, Boundaries.
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 2: Ooh, I love that. I love that you sound like
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: my therapist, Actually.
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 3: Well, good, she's definitely on the right track.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: Because here's the thing, family gatherings, going out people. I
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: witnessed a fight in a store the other day between
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: a cashier and a patron, and I just thought, my goodness,
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: life is too short to just be doing all this.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: So I think that boundaries in terms of if you're
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: somewhere where you are feeling triggered or it's a challenging time, whatever,
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 1: those boundaries need to look like For me, boundaries are
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 1: a survival guide. Not only boundaries with other people, but
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: boundaries with ourselves. So that means not putting ourselves in
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 1: situations that don't serve us, or another kind of like
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: like a mini point under this is that my therapist
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 1: and I talk about reasonable accommodations, and what that means
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: is is that sometimes we have things that we have
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: to do, but we can make reasonable accommodations to make
• 1:10:14
  Speaker 1: it a little bit healthier for ourselves. So I'll just
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 1: give a quick example of like, let's say you're going
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 1: to a Christmas dinner and your family's going to be
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 1: getting together for six hours. You go for one one
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 1: and a half, You hit your limit, and you say okay,
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 1: you know, you take it and you gotta.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: Go, don't.
• 1:10:33
  Speaker 1: I think boundaries is like the oxygen mask that we
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 1: put on for ourselves.
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  Speaker 3: So I just really encourage that for everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I love that. I also love an Irish exit. You know,
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  Speaker 2: don't let anybody shame you with shame you.
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  Speaker 1: Hey man, you don't.
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  Speaker 2: Even grab your coat, get the hell out of there,
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  Speaker 2: and then send it text Hey you were busy when
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  Speaker 2: I was leaving, Thanks so much. Bye. No. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: if it's a big party and you don't feel like staying,
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  Speaker 2: it's just freaking leave, you know. Sure if you you know,
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  Speaker 2: don't because people can have a tendency to guilt you
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  Speaker 2: you know, and don't.
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  Speaker 1: Oh well, and that and that's where the boundaries come
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  Speaker 1: in because it's like your family, everyone listening to this, like,
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  Speaker 1: your people are gonna do what they're gonna do. They're
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  Speaker 1: not gonna change, They're never gonna change. That's what they're
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  Speaker 1: gonna do. So we have to act differently because right
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  Speaker 1: in response to that, and so do you have another.
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  Speaker 2: My friend told me about this that they Okay, I
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  Speaker 2: don't know where you can get this. You can probably
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  Speaker 2: make your own a Bingo card. Where and it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of a joke Bingo card where you're like, oh, okay,
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  Speaker 2: every time, you know, Uncle Pete poor as a vodka,
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  Speaker 2: you know, every time my mom shames me for not
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  Speaker 2: having kids, you know, every time. Like, so you fill
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  Speaker 2: the Bingo cards with like all the things that are
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  Speaker 2: like kind of negative or you know, and that you
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  Speaker 2: can kind of turn into a bit of a joke
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  Speaker 2: so you can be you know a little lighthearted, and
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  Speaker 2: you can do it digitally and just see how many
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  Speaker 2: get filled up and bring so many in on the
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  Speaker 2: jokes so you could be like, yep, I got it.
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  Speaker 2: I got a diagonal. You know.
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  Speaker 1: That is hilarious and I actually love that. And I'll
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  Speaker 1: add I'll add one little.
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  Speaker 3: Bit to this.
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  Speaker 1: Give yourself a prize at the end. Just you're the winner, right,
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  Speaker 1: You're a winner.
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  Speaker 2: So you're a winner.
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  Speaker 3: Casey sucks.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah you deserve it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah sucks.
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  Speaker 1: Some polished whatever it is that you're into, that's not
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  Speaker 1: going to break the bank, do it. Because when you
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  Speaker 1: get that Bingo and you're like, well, things are the
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  Speaker 1: same as they've been for thirty years. But at least
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  Speaker 1: I've won a prize that I'm giving to myself right, Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I kind of love it.
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  Speaker 3: Okay.
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  Speaker 1: So two other things that I'll add is number one,
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  Speaker 1: I encourage everyone this time of year to have financial literacy.
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  Speaker 1: It's important because I feel like we need to keep
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  Speaker 1: in mind not to go into like overarching debt for
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  Speaker 1: things that you know we don't need. And listen, I
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  Speaker 1: understand everyone's situations are different. I guess what I'm just
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  Speaker 1: saying is to me, gift giving is like, it doesn't
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  Speaker 1: have to be necessarily super expensive or whatever. It's just
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  Speaker 1: being mindful of what works best for you. Because I
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  Speaker 1: think that financial health is something that I focused on
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  Speaker 1: a lot in my practice because it's directly connected to
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  Speaker 1: mental and physical health. Right, If you have all these bills,
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 1: you're in credit card debt up to your eyeballs, It's like,
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: that's too stressful, So just be mindful of that this year.
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  Speaker 1: And then the last thing I'm going to say is large,
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  Speaker 1: sweeping resolutions are setups for failures. I believe that this
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  Speaker 1: time of year people talk about resolutions. Personally, I think
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  Speaker 1: resolutions are kind of crap, and I'll tell you why.
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: I think resolutions are too big and there are these
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: overarching goals that aren't realistic. So what I urge people
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  Speaker 1: to do is going into the new year. I think
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  Speaker 1: it's great to reflect and look at Okay, what have
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  Speaker 1: I done?
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  Speaker 3: What do I want to do differently?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: But small, bite size, achievable goals, right, Yeah, like going
• 1:14:25
  Speaker 1: to the gym every day, never going to be my thing,
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 1: but working out at home twenty minutes a day on
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: my bike or doing some bands now that I can do.
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  Speaker 1: So whatever it is you can do, go with that.
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  Speaker 3: But make it reasonable.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, don't go extreme. That's never a good, you know, recipe. Yeah, right,
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  Speaker 2: it's a recipe for failure.
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  Speaker 3: Amy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, they don't want that. Yeah, we don't.
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  Speaker 3: We don't know, we don't.
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  Speaker 1: We just want nine lemons in a bowl and to
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  Speaker 1: make it nice and you know.
• 1:15:00
  Speaker 2: A decent holiday. You know, that's all we're asking for.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 3: That's right, That's right.
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: So I hope everyone has enjoyed. I know I've enjoyed this, Darling.
• 1:15:09
  Speaker 2: Ambish can't wait this.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: It has been super fun. So next month what you
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 1: all can expect from us is we are going to
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: be covering Surviving Mormonism. Yes, Heather Gay, the documentary with
• 1:15:22
  Speaker 1: Heather Gay, and I am super.
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: Stoked about that.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: So if you haven't watched it and you want to
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: listen to our pod, well, A, we'll cover it so
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: you don't have to watch it.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: But B if you'd like to get ready because that's
• 1:15:35
  Speaker 3: going to come up in a couple of weeks.
• 1:15:37
  Speaker 2: So and if you have any questions or comments, you
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: can email me at Drama Darling's with a Z at
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: gmail dot com and then you know, and then I'll
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 2: I'll bring it to our attention.
• 1:15:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm shutting down the emails for a little bit.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: I got some really creepy something happened to me. Well,
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 1: I'll share it on the next Amy, I'm gonna have
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: to tell you about this first, but next next podcast
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 1: will share a little bit of what I got in
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: my email.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 3: So email Amy, not me.
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: But so here's the thing, let's share where everybody can
• 1:16:15
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• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: me at your bish therapist, on Instagram, on social media.
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 1: On this video will be going on Spotify, which, by
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 1: the way, Amy, you girl was in the top fifteen
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• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: Top fifteen percent of videos. That's amazing.
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 3: What is that? Videos?
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: They have videos on Spotify?
• 1:16:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's why I'm in the top
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: fifteen because no one knows.
• 1:16:42
  Speaker 2: No, that's not not true. You're on the cutting edge, Melissa.
• 1:16:47
  Speaker 2: That's amazing.
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 3: Thank you. So yeah.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: You can watch this video on Spotify, on my Patreon
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 1: and on YouTube and then obviously you'll be listening. You know,
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: everyone who's listening to this. Can you check me out
• 1:17:00
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• 1:17:03
  Speaker 2: So yeah, well, boy, oh boy, I can be found
• 1:17:09
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• 1:17:14
  Speaker 2: then email me at Drama Darlings with a z gmails
• 1:17:19
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• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: You know where to find me.
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well, thank you Amy so much. This has been
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 1: such a who so much fine, a delight. We hope
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 1: that you've loved it and we can't wait to bring
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: you more.
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  Speaker 3: Darling Bish.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, darling Bish, signing.
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