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TikTok | The Christian Reeve Podcast #188 · The Christian Reeve Podcast

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Hello and welcome to another episode of the Christian Reef
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podcast. Today's episode is all about
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Tick-Tock. That's right.
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We're going to do an entire episode on Tick Tock because
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Tick Tock is a big part of my life, a couple of them saying
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that. But do you know what the app has
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changed a lot over the last few years.
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I mean, back when I had originally heard of it but in
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2018, I believe it was like Many other people.
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I just assumed it was this dancing app for kids or
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something. And you know in many respects
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it's still very much is about just dances and stuff and just
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having fun but then I started to see older content creators on,
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they're doing different things, doing things like just skits, I
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suppose writing their own music and stuff and just generally
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having a place to Showcase their creative Endeavors and that
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obviously piqued my interest and You know, I started meeting
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people online online friends who was sort of saying like, Hey
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listen your sleep, you kind of sleeping on this tic toc thing.
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You need to get on that wagon. And you know, I had a couple of
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stints and now it's a regular fixture in what I do.
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You know, I do these regular livestreams, I post my acting
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and music on there and what not? And also, you know, I have fun
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with it as well. I have a lot of fun with
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Tick-Tock and I think if nothing else, that's what took Atok
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should be about is having fun and just kind of seeing where
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you can go with it. So today's episode is going to
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kind of be a mixture of questions given to us by the
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wonderful Vilma. Shout out to Vilma big friend
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and fan and find big friend and follower of the show and
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everything else that I'm doing and without her, this show
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wouldn't have happened because I really didn't know how to It's a
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sort of approach it. I mean I thought about maybe
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talking about my experiences on Tick-Tock, but I kind of felt
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like that was a bit boring. I mean there have been a lot of
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crazy stories and stuff that you know, things that have happened
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whilst being on the app. But I think I wanted to kind of
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cover Tick-Tock at large, you know, kind of do like a
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breakdown of The Good, the Bad. And the Ugly when it comes to
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tick tock because just like any other social media app, it's got
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its flaws, but it's got it. It's the opposite.
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I don't know, triumphs and good things about it and I guess I
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just kind of want to dissect it a little bit and also share some
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of your opinions that I received on Reddit because as always, I
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asked a bunch of people on Reddit various questions and I
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get a varied responses and many of them were quite interesting.
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So we will delve into those afterwards but I think Now,
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we're going to start with vilma's questions.
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So thank you so much vilmer for sending these in anybody
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listening, please send in your questions and I will turn them
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in to Future shows or I will include them within a show or
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I'll ask them to a guest or whatever.
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The case may be, the podcast is now sponsored by anchor, which
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is mad to think about. So it's actually going to make
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money now, that's weird this show.
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Is finally going to make some money.
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Albeit not a lot but to me it's more just the principal.
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You know just knowing that this show is now sponsored it kind of
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I don't know I suppose it lends some credibility to it and we've
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got a lot more guests coming up very soon and I'm going to do
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more of these topic episodes as I've been promising for a long
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time, I've been enjoying them. You guys seem to be enjoying
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them. So I'm going to keep doing them
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and then obviously going to keep doing life of Christian Reeve on
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the patreon. Part 2 of the high school
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memories coming up very, very soon.
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You can get exclusive access to that or patreon.com slash
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Christian Reeve. Now let's stop bugging showy and
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just get into this. What's the weirdest thing you've
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seen on Tick? Tock now, when I was going
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through all these questions, as I always do, I sort of sit down
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make notes and like, literally just bullet points and then I
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kind of think about About like okay, these can be stories.
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I can expand upon this turn this into 10 minutes, 15 minutes, 30
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minutes, I'll show. We'll see.
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But yeah, no seriously there's been some weird weird stuff.
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I think probably the weirdest stuff it will get into some of
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that but I think the fact that the app is supposed to be hyper
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Vigilant when it comes to protecting minors and stuff
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that's what they say. And they've done things recently
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like making it so that you have to be 18 to do a live stream,
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right? But there's so many miners on
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this app, it definitely doesn't Safeguard and protect children
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as it should, which is really, really concerning.
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And you know there's a lot of people doing.
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I'm going to put it like mature content and getting away with it
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or, you know, I've seen assist content on there.
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I've seen Just crazy stuff on this app.
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It's very, very worrying. As as my people may know, it's a
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Chinese app, I believe it's owned by the Chinese government.
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I could be wrong on that, but it's very strange.
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I can't think of many other apps that are owned by a government.
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Forgive me for my ignorance, if you can think of any, let me
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know, but it just, it just seems odd to have an app with
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government involvement. It really does.
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Kind of make you think, like, is there some Buying at work or is
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their nefarious reasons for this and we'll get into that later.
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But it does make you think sometimes that you know, maybe
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there's an ulterior motive to it, maybe it's not all just
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sunshine and daisies maybe there is something a bit darker about
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Tick-Tock certainly. There's been creators which who
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have some of whom have committed actual crimes, people who became
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like, there was one the other day I saw that was a Creator who
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did A bunch of, like Skyrim style, NPC videos.
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It was really really good at. And then, you know, I'm hadn't
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seen him in years at this point because he sort of rose to
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prominence during the pandemic. And it turns out the reason for
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that is that he had committed murder, which is crazy.
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But you know, anyone can be become a villain I suppose and
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do bad things in their life. Doesn't matter who they are
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famous or not, though. Amos, but it's kind of crazy how
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being on this app can change people and give people like
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complexes and think that they're better and then everyone and
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people let it go to their heads. I think, sometimes people get a
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bit obsessed with the using this, this app.
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And, you know, they just live on the app and I've seen people
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that live stream all the time, all day, every day, like they
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don't do anything else. And it's Kind of worried for
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their health in many respects because it's like you can't live
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your life online. It's not healthy.
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There's a whole world out there. You know, it's handy to have
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apps and to have social media and to have ways to distract you
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even. Just for a few seconds, a day,
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or a minute, or an hour, or whatever the case may be.
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That's great, but you shouldn't live in your phone, you know,
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and I'm sorry, I don't want to sit here and sound like, I'm
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lecturing everyone. But yeah, it's something we all
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know and I don't think we really appreciate enough.
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Laughs, you know, you need to take breaks from the stuff when
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I go out, I go out. I'm not looking at my phone,
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maybe once in a while, might look at it, but if I'm out I'm
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out and I'm enjoying it and being in the moment, you know,
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that's how it should be. No just sitting on your phone
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all the time, it's bad. And I think there's a lot of
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people that become obsessed with this app, particularly if
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they're doing really well on it. And getting a hundred hundreds
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of thousands of followers, because I imagine that the
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validation and The support from people kind of goes to their
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heads and they don't know, I guess believe their own hype or
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maybe they even believe they're famous and you know, that goes
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to their head. I don't know, but it's a bit
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weird and it's kind of crazy. But yeah, let's talk about just
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some of the random stuff that I've seen that are quite common
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on live streams egg. Scraping live streams.
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Exactly how it sounds every once in a while, you will see someone
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with an egg scraping bits of the egg off.
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And when I say slowly, I mean like entire Decades of past and
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they've still not scrape this off.
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And of course, the whole point of this is to just prolong this
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process as much as possible. And it's what one thing that's
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frustrating about this is that bizarre lives like this, live
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streams like this. Are the ones that get like
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hundreds of thousands of views, thousands, of views.
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And I don't get it. I don't understand.
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I mean, what am I missing? Why is it so fascinating?
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Is it the weirdness of the fact that someone is doing that?
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The absurdity of it? Is it just?
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I don't know, somehow mesmerizing.
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I mean, my live streams are literally, I sit down.
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I talked to everyone in the live stream sometimes, I play music.
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Sometimes I give advice, sometimes we just discuss.
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Things going on in people's lives or I tell stories but
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there's always something going on some interactions.
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Some activity. Not just I mean not to say that
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egg scraping is not an activity, but as far as activities are
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concerned. Easy, easy entertaining to watch
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that. I don't know.
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Maybe, maybe if you're high I guess it could be kind of funny
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but ice just weird. It's weird.
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And then another element to this which happens for all these
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types of weird broadcasts is that people just send hundreds
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of gifts, you'll just see a never-ending cycle of
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notifications of people sending roses and Gifts of it's not why,
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why are you giving these people your money?
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You know, give it to people that are doing good like actually
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creating good content for you or doing charity stuff even better.
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Give money to people that doing like charity livestreams.
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Do give it to this idiot, the scraping an egg us, you can do
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what you want with your money but it just it just sat it's
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weird. It's frustrating.
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I'm not gonna lie. Frustrates, me that those
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livestreams. Get thousands of views for
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nothing for literally Farkle. And here I am busting my ass
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trying to get, like, even just five people in my life seen,
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which, hey, don't get me wrong. I love that I can get like one
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person in my live stream. I'm a happy camper, and I'm just
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blessed to be able to do that and entertain someone, right?
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But a little part of me every once in a while, does get a
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little bit. Infuriated I couldn't get more
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people, but it's because people would rather watch that.
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And I don't know if that means that people just have low
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attention spans on the app, you know, it's a, It's that kind of
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an app, isn't it? It's kind of crazy that the live
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streams, do so well in the first place.
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But then again, I suppose it's more about the interactivity
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rather than, you know, the actual long form content.
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Format, you know? But then again, I've got a whole
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community that was built on Tick-Tock a livestream community
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and many of whom regularly come back and they'll stay for an
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entire hour, two hours, whatever.
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Some people pop in and out, that's crazy to dedicate a bit
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of your time. And that, this is why I always
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say thank you to these people because you sit down and you
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watch the content and you interact and you get involved.
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And it's very humbling, very grateful that I get.
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Get to do that for people and that people enjoy it that much
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to stick around and it means something it really does.
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But it is prized because it's like, okay, I guess these people
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that there are people on this app that you want, sort of
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longer form content, and interestingly Tick-Tock has
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trialled it. They have released like longer
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form videos, but inevitably the ones that are the most
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successful are the ones that last for, like, 15 seconds, you
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know, or 20 seconds a minute, whatever like that.
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That's kind of What the app is in a nutshell.
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It's just quick. Snippets quick quick, quick,
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that you keeps going and keeps going keeps going.
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It's just an updated version of Facebook.
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Really, when you really look at it, like that Facebook's biggest
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achievement was having that just never ending Newsfeed there.
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Just has loads of stuff on it and it never ends and you're
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constantly engaged in something. I suppose and Tick-Tock is no
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different. You got the for you page and you
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just get Thrown random stuff and you know it's funny like how
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your phone is always listening as well.
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And the minute you start saying certain things, certain things
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keep coming up. If I took about like The Addams
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Family, I'm going to get a bunch of atoms family, related,
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content. Keep coming up and that's just
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because of technology and everything is listening in on
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your conversations now and tracking you and stuff.
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But it is interesting. I don't know how many times I've
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said it is interesting. I'm pretty nervous today.
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I'm not gonna lie, I'm pretty tired, just got back at like
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1:00 p.m. or something after a bit of a crazy night gave myself
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a night off so to speak and I didn't come home last night, so
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there you go. But I wanted to do that.
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I needed to do this podcast today and I know that will make
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it sound. Like I always just trying to get
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it out the way. Get it done.
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I love doing this podcast. I love it.
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Don't know how many times I've said that but I absolutely adore
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doing this podcast and it's always the same you know, when I
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feel like I'm not up to it or I'm tired or something like
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that, my own the prospect is killing me.
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I don't want to do doing the dude doing it and then I sit
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down and I start doing it and I loved it.
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I'm instantly reminded why I love doing this and it's amazing
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to have got to this point where I actually feel comfortable
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enough to sit here for maybe an hour hour and a half and just
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talked at length like this. This and just shoot the shit.
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You know, I couldn't do this two years ago, just did not have the
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confidence. Did not have We can set approach
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like a member looking at the old videos.
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I had back then when I was just doing my Vlogs and stuff and it
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was so awkward. I just was not comfortable in
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front of a camera. They just didn't know what to
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say. I thought about putting on a
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Persona and be like, hey guys, welcome to the video and I tried
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that but it's lame as fuck, you just have to be yourself.
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But it's easier said than done, isn't it?
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You know, I mean I like to think that this is myself but it's
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Pushed a bit to you. It's elevated.
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It's, there's a slight performance element in it.
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I am presenting to you, you know, if we were in a normal
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conversation I wouldn't be like and hi, welcome to the next part
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of the conversation. You know, it wouldn't be like
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that unless it was like a sales pitch or something.
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I don't know. That's just not how people
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talking real life but it would be weird if I would just sit
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here and be like. Yeah, so what do you think about
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this? I think this is interesting.
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It is it just this, you Kind of have to play it up a bit for the
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cameras but you don't have to fake it.
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If you know what I mean you can play up.
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You can have somewhat of a performance but you can still be
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authentic and that's why I've tried to do whether or not have
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succeeded, it's subjective. It's up to you guys you let me
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know, you let me know. But yeah, I just love doing this
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show. Thanks for listening guys, but
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don't worry the show is nowhere near over.
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I know I normally say that and it's like okay, end of the show,
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right? It's not The show.
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I've only just begun, but been waffling on.
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So, let's get back to the weirdest things I've seen on
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ticked up the mermaid, dude, in the alleyway.
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Okay, this is going to be difficult to explain.
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I will try to give you the visual picture of this.
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Imagine, like, somewhere in, like Malaysia or Thailand or
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something like that. You've got like, a tiny drainage
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ditch between my two houses, and there's a guy.
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Dressed in like a makeshift mermaid costume that he's made
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himself. I can't remember if he was
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shirtless or not. He, I think he had a wig like a
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Mermaid wig and he had, I think he even had his feet out of the
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mermaid costume or the air like a fin or like as a pop of
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mermaid costume. But it wasn't.
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It was like a makeshift, what it wasn't, a proper one.
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It wasn't like sequins and designs and patterns on.
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It was just like You know, like a green bin bag, type deal, but
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whatever, you know, cool, A+ for creativity and doing, do it DIY,
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you know, me. But the weird part about this
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was that the guy was just kind of laying down. so, it's like, I
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don't know how to put this exactly kind of car like dipping
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his feet into the water very lightly, you know like not
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dipping it the full way, just lightly tapping it in the water
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in the drainage ditch and that was the life.
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That was the live stream and all of his videos were of him doing
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that or just talking or something.
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And again hundreds of thousands of followers, I don't get it.
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What is this? But people seem to lap it up
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very strange, people eating like octopuses and other live animals
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fish on live streams. First of all, disgusting.
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Why what I'm and Tick-Tock as always, did not ban it.
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Oh no, they promote it. You know, whenever there's
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something weird or nefarious or off Tick-Tock just promotes the
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shit out of that, there will be a lot of shitting on Tick-Tock
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today, don't get me wrong. I am grateful, but I'm going to
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point out point. I'm gonna point out there flaws
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as well just as I would with anything else.
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Now I'm going to be firm, but fair but I'm also going to say
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what's like I said, at the beginning, The Good, The Bad and
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The Ugly, But this is the ugly. It's I don't understand why
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people are into this shit. Maybe it's absurd.
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I mean, people like mukbangs, people, like to watch their
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favorite creators eat. I mean, Lord knows I've done
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live streams where I just was pressed for time and I needed to
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do a live stream so did the live stream whilst eating and won't
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behold my numbers went up and people were interested and I'm
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not why I'm just sitting and eating, I'm not doing anything,
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but apparently that's fascinating to people.
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I don't know. Just as it's kind of the same as
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like watching people play games, you know, I've done that as
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well, right? Not throwing stones or anything
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or criticizing it, but it's just like, kind of odd when you
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really think about it. Like you want, you would want to
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play the game, why would you want to watch someone else play
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the game? But not everyone has the luxury
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of owning the gate and being able to do it themselves and
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maybe you could throw the same mindset over to eating food, so
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I wish I was eating that. Maybe I did it.
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I seen a lot of good mukbangs where they'll eat, but then
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they'll talk about something and I'll sort of turn it into like a
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mini podcast type deal. I think that's at least
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somewhat, decent content and then I don't know.
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Maybe something will finally what happened while they're
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eating, right? Maybe they'll get like Source in
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their eyes. I'm sure.
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I don't know. Because just liven things up,
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you know moving it on sleeping live streams.
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I don't know if these are much less weird or just bizarre.
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I've seen two types of sleeping live streams.
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Either one, it's just someone in the bed sleeping.
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And it'll be like four hours. And it just be that.
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My guess is that maybe it's sort of comforting, maybe if you
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never speak with the Creator ever, you know that you never
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hear them, you ever hitting them do anything, they just sleep.
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And that's it just seems kind of boring kind of strange that you
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would want to watch that. Kind of reminds me of back in
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the day when you could watch programs like big brother and
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there would be footage on like 5, 6 a.m. because they used to
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have, like 24-hour feed, but they did, it wouldn't pay
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24-hour feed on the television, but they would kind of give you
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live feed in the morning and stuff.
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So, like 6 a.m. you could just watch them sleeping and it was
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really odd and boring and I occasionally that maybe someone
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got up and, like, made themselves a sand wedge or just
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walked around, but basically nothing happened.
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And this is Weirdly know, different people who are
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obsessed with watching people, sleep.
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Now, the other form of livestream, which I'll admit, I
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kind of find it interesting in that kind of morbid curiosity.
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Way. Is people will set up a deal
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where they'll lay down in a bed and try to sleep and they've
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somehow connected their tablet or device to like a soundboard
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type deal. And for every a gift That you
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send, it will correspond to like a different alarm or distraction
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that will maybe wake the person up or cause it cause them to
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have difficulty sleeping and that can be kind of fun, I guess
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but most of the time you just see them sleeping and people
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send gifts and like you might get like a light noise and it
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doesn't really, you know, bother them or something.
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I do see a lot of people like Miss the point, and type things
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into the chat, like they type rows instead of sending a rose
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because they don't understand that.
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Like, you have to send the rose in order to get the
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corresponding sound, they just send, let's just send the like
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keep separating rose rose rose, it doesn't work well at all.
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Why does it not work? And it's like I mean that you've
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literally got a massive LED board explaining send a gift.
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You get a sound. Yeah, I don't know.
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I got mixed feelings about that. But obviously, inevitably those
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livestreams do extremely well. So and now I've spoken about it
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for a good five, ten minutes that's going to appear on my fyp
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for the next week. So great.
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Why does some of the silliest videos that take no effort
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become viral whereas others which take hard work.
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Don't, I know that this is slightly aimed at me as well.
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Not the silly this part, but like the fact that I think one
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of them is saying here as well. Is like how come your videos?
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Don't do better. The ones that I put like effort
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into like acting music like ask it something like that versus
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just silly videos that take no effort.
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I think it's a combination of a few things and I've written some
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of those things down so we'll kind of expand upon them.
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I think timing is a big one when I had Paul Nicholson on the show
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who'd spoken with Tick-Tock and the heads at Tick-Tock he'd
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mentioned that like sometimes it can be to do with like when you
24:04
release a video sometimes you. We post a video like several
24:08
times and it will do better later on the same video.
24:13
Sometimes it could be that time of day, it could just be down to
24:17
sheer luck, you know? Like one video that I had that
24:21
went viral went viral in like, Saudi Arabia and like Algeria
24:25
and the Middle East and it's super random.
24:27
We got like nearly 3 million views and it all it was was a
24:31
stitch, which is basically when you take one video and then you
24:35
add something to it either like a Reaction or like you just at
24:41
you expand upon the original video and add content to it.
24:44
That's what stitches. And that's what my video was.
24:47
It was just someone saying something silly and funny and
24:50
then I was like, what? In that silly voice.
24:53
And that was the video that did immeasurably well and got real
24:58
at 28,000 followers and nearly 3 million views.
25:03
It was wild. It was, it was, it was a fun
25:06
couple of I think of just seeing the numbers keep rising and
25:11
everything and I naively thought the time and I've covered this
25:14
on the show before but I naively thought like this is it this is
25:16
the beginning of my my online content creator career.
25:20
Now I'm going to become super rich and successful and famous
25:23
and this is the beginning and it's like, it didn't, it didn't
25:26
happen, but it was interesting. And I learned a lot from it.
25:32
And I think the biggest thing that I learned was, yeah, it
25:35
mostly just comes down to Sheer luck.
25:40
I think morbid curiosity could be a reason why some of the
25:43
Cilia videos do so well. The sillier the better.
25:47
I mean there are a lot of kids using this app.
25:49
So it kind of makes sense that the Cilia goofy.
25:53
Oh, kind of videos are going to do better than like, more
25:55
serious ones. But the say that serious ones,
25:58
don't do well, but you've got to change in demographic on the
26:02
app, but I will say, in the last couple of years, there's been
26:05
more content aimed at Older generations.
26:09
And I feel like now it's kind of Shifting the balance on Tick,
26:11
Tock. So now there's this, like all
26:13
these different parts of tick-tock aimed at different
26:16
things like different TV show fandoms series fandoms, fandoms
26:23
of actors music like culture, whatever.
26:26
Like there's all these different kind of like pockets of the
26:29
internet, you know? It's the same principle but just
26:32
operating within Tick-Tock and because of that, you've got all
26:35
these spaces for people to be. And so you can be on that app
26:39
all the time and have no idea who certain people are yet.
26:43
They could be some of the biggest creators on that, but it
26:46
may be that you've just never seen them.
26:48
Their content has not been pushed to you because it's just
26:51
not relevant to you in some way or again luck.
26:54
Just never seen them. It's interesting to me the
26:57
content that gets pushed my way. It's not often like, those
27:00
boots, it creators, it's just either people that live in the
27:04
local area to me, or people around.
27:07
The country or around the world even posting somewhat similar
27:11
content. Like I see a lot of music
27:12
related ones and that makes sense being a musician and I
27:16
post a lot of music related content on the app, but other
27:21
than that, it's kind of a random free-for-all and anything can
27:24
appear on that fyp. And obviously, if you show
27:27
interest and engage with it, then you're going to see a lot
27:29
more of that stuff and sometimes you just stumble across weird
27:32
stuff. Also final reason for the
27:35
silliest videos, taking no heh. Effort and yet becoming viral.
27:39
I think, the more Mass Appeal ability of video has the more
27:45
likely it is to do well, which, I know that sounds like the most
27:47
obvious statement of all time. Like oh yeah, of course.
27:50
If you can, anyone can relate to a course.
27:52
It's going to be better based. Like, if, if you take something
27:56
like mr. Bean the character and you look
27:59
at why that became so successful.
28:01
It became successful, because Rowan Atkinson essentially
28:04
created a character that didn't really And need to speak.
28:08
It does kind of mumbled words here and there sometimes even
28:11
has conversations, but mostly he didn't speak.
28:13
He just kind of did like slapstick comedy and just moved
28:16
his body around and facial expressions in a funny way, and
28:20
that meant that he had a greater Mass Appeal, ability to
28:25
Universal audience. So, like countries around the
28:28
world because you don't have to know what he's saying.
28:31
All you have to understand is like, you know, the situation of
28:35
what he finds himself in. nor like the silliness the silly
28:39
predicaments, he finds himself in and how he overcomes them and
28:42
stuff, you know it's if you apply that then to tick tock I
28:46
think Whatever appeals to the masses is going to go viral.
28:54
You know, that's kind of just the end of it so I think yeah a
29:00
lot of it comes down to luck really.
29:04
Yeah, I don't know. Basically can smaller creators
29:08
make an actual income from Tick-Tock.
29:10
Or is it just fancy emojis and useless features?
29:15
Yes. Now I can't speak. on this in a
29:21
particularly, you know, There is a specific way, like I don't
29:28
know the extent of what we're able to do, but I can tell you
29:33
that, I haven't money, but the ways I've earned money have been
29:37
either mostly through people gifting in live streams which
29:43
thank you to everyone that's ever done.
29:45
That's very kind of you. Sometimes you can get gifted a
29:49
gift on a video or something like videos. intended for The
29:56
Creator that sent on a video so something like that.
30:00
It only happened to me once or twice on my main account, but it
30:03
is a thing. And then, of course, if you get
30:06
into the Creator fund, which I believe you have to have like
30:08
10,000 followers to get into, then in theory, you're supposed
30:13
to earn money on all of your videos because they'll start
30:15
showing ads like before your videos arrived on people's
30:19
timelines and stuff. I only ever like maybe 5 P from
30:24
it. 10p something like But I suppose the best way to earn
30:32
money on this app really, is pushing people to check out your
30:36
other content, you know. So it's not strictly speaking
30:39
earning money from Tick-Tock, but you're pushing into things
30:42
like your patreon, or your PayPal or something like that.
30:45
Like with with a particular reason in my life and I think
30:49
it's always better if you can deliver something, if you can
30:52
say, okay, here's what you get back for subscribing, to me,
30:56
following me, whatever. But talking just on what you get
30:59
from subscribing to take, talk to a Creator.
31:04
I think you. One thing I've seen is you can
31:07
do like subscriber, only live streams where only subscribers
31:12
can comment and interact with the Creator.
31:16
It seems like a good idea. If you've got like 10,000
31:18
followers and 50 of them follow like subscribe to you, then you
31:23
know, they get to have like their own livestreamer big ones.
31:26
Well well, you can just do it like that every time be like, oh
31:29
no, you have to subscribe to me and then you can be part of it.
31:32
But for like that would really alienate people.
31:35
It's one of the reasons why I've kept doing the podcast.
31:37
And I've released this life of Christian roof series only on
31:42
patreon. I've kept it exclusive there
31:44
because it's like, okay, one you have to pay for one is free like
31:47
the this podcast will always be free.
31:49
It will never be paid for it. Will have eventually more
31:53
sponsors and maybe more ads and stuff and Who knows like if it
31:57
ever took off to cough, maybe we would have like ad free versions
32:00
that you might pay for something.
32:02
But as it is, this podcast will always remain free because it
32:08
started as a free product. I always intended for it to be a
32:11
free product, it always will be and I think it's important to
32:14
have that from a marketing perspective to be able to
32:18
advertise yourself with free content, you know, because not
32:20
everyone can afford to pay for Content.
32:23
Not everyone wants to certainly, I didn't think my content was
32:27
very good years ago, I think. Now I'm creating content that
32:30
might be worth paying for very subjective but bias of me to say
32:35
that. But I mean, I don't know, I put
32:37
a lot of hard work into like the life of Christian researchers
32:40
and everything else that I do. But I never expect people to
32:45
gift and give things and it's always a massive surprise when
32:48
people do. And I'm always see extremely
32:51
grateful when people do but I don't expect it.
32:54
And I don't think anyone on Tick Tock should either you should
32:57
just say your thank-yous, be grateful and been never make
33:01
demands of the people that are sending you their hard-earned
33:04
money. Like because they're doing so
33:06
because they Love you. And they want to say thank you
33:08
and give you gratitude for entertaining them, you know.
33:12
So I don't think she'd ever make demands of them or expect it and
33:15
it's happened on other apps like twitch and whatnot.
33:17
But just still, we need to draw a line under stuff like that and
33:21
maybe will realize that it's not cool to do that, man.
33:24
Anyway, let's move it forward. What is the best thing about
33:28
Tick-Tock? Now, I asked Reddit, this
33:30
question. So we'll swing to that in a
33:34
second but I want To say, I think the best thing about Tick
33:40
Tock is the reach. I think you can reach.
33:45
A lot of people very, very quickly.
33:48
And that to me is one of the best reasons why, you know, you
33:53
would Seek to use this app, you know, obviously there's going to
33:58
be other reasons, but I feel like, you know, when I was on
34:01
Twitch, I never really gained like a new followers out of the
34:04
blue, like would happen every once in a while, but mostly it
34:06
was just the hard core audience that ironically.
34:08
I built on Tick-Tock first who moved around with me from app to
34:11
app, while I was going through this transitional period, of
34:14
originally being blocked on my main account, which is a whole
34:16
story in of itself. I think I've talked about on the
34:18
show before. So go check out the other
34:20
episodes and day. You can find out there.
34:22
I don't know which episode though.
34:24
I'll find out. But yeah, I was banned from live
34:28
streaming on my main account and then I didn't really know what
34:30
to do. After that was like, hardcore
34:32
followers of mine did and I'm immensely grateful and some of
34:34
those people still follow me to this day.
34:35
It's incredible to thank you. But not, everyone did and I
34:39
think it's because some people most people maybe like to stick
34:43
to just one app as opposed to having many.
34:46
I mean I have all the apps because I'm trying to promote
34:50
myself everywhere and maximize visibility for myself but I can
34:54
understand why people don't want to.
34:56
I know people that don't have Instagram then of YouTube and
34:58
Facebook. I mean I don't really use
34:59
Facebook but point is it's you know as a Creator you kind of
35:04
got to have a presence everywhere.
35:05
But if you're just a consumer of content I guess you're going to
35:09
choose apps that you dig. And you know if you don't dig
35:13
the other ones you're not going to have them on your phone.
35:14
Are you not going to use them? So yeah I would say reach is the
35:17
best thing especially since I've been able to reach people from
35:20
around the world. Like I've reached people in
35:22
America Canada. I like Thailand Philippines all
35:27
over Europe Australia, it's amazing continues to just blow
35:31
my mind and some of these people keep returning keep checking out
35:34
my content and I'm like, thank you so much like amazing to have
35:37
you here, you know, it's crazy even though to think that it's
35:41
happening in real time as well. But let's look at some of the
35:43
responses that read it said. What's good about Tick-Tock?
35:47
It feels time. Yeah.
35:48
There you go. Pretty simple because, you know,
35:51
you need to just stare at a few minutes.
35:54
Kill some time. You'll definitely be
35:56
entertainment. It so, one person says, I like
35:59
my Tick, Tock feed. I follow a lot of Disability,
36:01
Advocates, cool. Whom are often disappear,
36:04
disabled, physical and/or, mental influencers.
36:07
Tick-Tock helped me of cultural awareness and I like that I can
36:10
learn random trivia. See, this is brilliant.
36:11
Yeah, because you've got different Generations on their
36:15
gosh. The amount of Music I've
36:17
discovered through Tick-Tock has been has been mind-blowing
36:19
because all these really cool songs that are usually new
36:22
songs, but sometimes they're older.
36:24
So Songs, like for many, many years ago like 80s or wherever
36:28
they, you know, they just become viral on the app.
36:30
They keep getting used especially in tandem with like a
36:32
particular Trend and then they just become like, good voice is
36:36
good music. The amount of times I've Shazam
36:38
things that I've heard on Spotify and I've had it to my
36:41
to, my playlist is crazy, so I totally get that like learning
36:45
from the app and stuff and yeah, it's like I was saying earlier,
36:48
there's different pockets on the app, you know, different places,
36:52
you can reach in other book, talk for That people just doing
36:55
live streams where they just read, you know, do like little
36:59
nighttime bed story types, there was an that's awesome.
37:02
You know, that people offer that sort of content.
37:05
So, yeah. Algorithm for the feed is
37:08
amazing from x y, z From the Block.
37:12
Yeah, I think you know, whether you like it or hate it.
37:16
At the end of the day, it's significantly better than other
37:21
apps for directing content your way that The app will know that
37:25
you like, like, no matter things.
37:26
It's suggested to me that I definitely never spoke about,
37:31
but it just, I guess it kind of my phone or the app recognized.
37:34
Oh, he likes this. This, this this.
37:36
So he's my it likely to like this thing as well.
37:40
And it was true. So there you go.
37:43
Best is the amount of creativity in content.
37:47
Absolutely. I like how creative people get
37:51
with Trends especially when there's like a trend that Really
37:54
popular in someone will slightly change.
37:58
Something about it and like self a whole new trend like a sub
38:02
trend of a trend, if that's a thing.
38:05
Yeah, lots of really interesting creativity.
38:07
It's always interesting to see what the next big trend is going
38:10
to be, and it's just fun. Lot of fun.
38:15
Lot of just negative comments here.
38:17
What we'll get to that in a second.
38:20
He's Tick-Tock just for fun, or is there a more serious side to
38:23
it? I guess that depends on your
38:25
motivations, really? I mean, I've always been pretty
38:27
transparent in that I'm using this app to promote myself, just
38:31
have the links on my profile and hope the content spoke for
38:34
itself in kind of hoped that people might check out my other
38:37
stuff that I was doing, like, my acting stuff.
38:38
People don't necessarily do that, but sometimes people do.
38:42
But generally speaking, they don't, if you push them to do,
38:44
if you suggest it people will like, I don't know how long I've
38:47
been doing it now. Maybe a few months, but I
38:50
decided to just start plugging everything that I do in my live
38:53
streams. Normally at the beginning of the
38:56
live stream at the end and it's sometimes if there's a bunch of
38:58
new people to particular stream, I'll mention it will give him
39:01
the rundown of who I am, and what I do when you where you can
39:03
find me. And when I tell you that it's
39:05
increased, my Instagram account considerably, it's got only
39:07
patreon subscribers. I mean, it's improved, the
39:10
listens, and the views for the podcast, it definitely works.
39:14
You know, promoting yourself and pushing yourself on the apps,
39:16
like, Tick Tock works. But you've got a have structure.
39:20
I think if you want to be a content creator, that seeks to
39:23
monetize. They do and be able to community
39:25
and then promote your content to that community and kind of maybe
39:30
get those people to check out everything that you're doing.
39:34
It's a lot of work and you have to plug you have to be top
39:38
salesman and just constantly be selling stuff.
39:39
But you don't have to spend every waking moment doing that,
39:42
you know, like when I do my live streams, I try to keep the plugs
39:45
to a minimum. If a, can I just say them?
39:47
When they make sense? To say them, as I said before,
39:50
normally, when there's a lot of new people in normally will set
39:52
at the beginning of the live strip not but Lot of time at all
39:55
only set of the end, you know, just as a kind of reminder to
39:57
everybody, it's become a cash. Be like I Know It Off by heart,
40:02
but yeah. No, I think it's important to do
40:04
that. I think that's important.
40:07
What are the worst things? Let's have a little look-see.
40:10
Are you going to load for me? I've got this set up in front of
40:13
me and worried that it'll just start lagging out and bring it.
40:17
It's Data Tracking earlier. This is what I was referring to.
40:21
That means a Toronto but supposedly data on your phone as
40:23
well. So it's it's clearly a privacy
40:25
issue. Also its vilmer.
40:29
Sent me a question here. Tick Tock is under review by the
40:31
EU for EU citizens data being breached by the Chinese
40:35
government. What do I think about that?
40:37
And what if Tik Tok Tik Tok gets banned in the EU?
40:40
So what I think about it is that I mean Europe and China
40:45
different regions of the world and I guess Tick-Tock will have
40:50
to acquiesce and change things up.
40:53
If they don't they just won't They allowed to operate.
40:55
So they'll have to change out things and they might have to
40:57
give up certain things and it because data protection is very
41:01
serious here. I think forgive my ignorance.
41:03
I might be wrong here, but we've got like the data protection,
41:05
Adam, got that gdpr thing, which may only be for financial for
41:09
the financial industry. But basically we've got like a
41:11
lot of legislation regulations to protect for things like data
41:14
and stuff and the misuse of it will not and essentially
41:18
Tick-Tock is always tracking and storing data about you, and
41:21
there's a lot of conspiracy theories about this idea that
41:23
like maybe Be there. I don't know.
41:25
It's all like facial recognition and they're trying to kind of
41:27
like just build profiles of people and store it in a
41:30
database somewhere. I don't know if I believe all
41:32
that shit. Maybe it's true, maybe not, who
41:35
knows. But I hear people talk about
41:38
privacy problems with regards to tick tock all the time and again
41:41
it's not the only app that does this making up for this and it's
41:43
no different with you. Got like you sign up for this
41:45
you look in their terms and conditions.
41:46
There's going to be some crazy wild stuff in there that you're
41:48
not going to want to agree to, but if you don't, you can't use
41:51
the app and that's how they get you.
41:54
I don't know, but if it gets banned in your you, I kind of
41:57
threw a through, a few ideas here.
42:00
I mean, I don't see this happening, but if it did, I
42:03
would see maybe Instagram or YouTube.
42:05
Taking over in this space. I mean, I feel like Instagram
42:09
reels and YouTube shorts have been a bit of a failure.
42:12
I mean, they've kind of jumped on the bandwagon and taking
42:15
small segments in the market. But Tick Tock is supreme when it
42:18
comes to short content. Is the place for it.
42:22
I personally don't like Instagram reels and YouTube
42:26
shorts because of like it so much easier to post videos on,
42:32
ticked up, the knees, Instagram, wheels, and and YouTube shops.
42:36
I feel like they're not really optimized for this stuff and
42:39
also, YouTube is a video sharing website, always has been, but I
42:41
feel like it's better for the long form content.
42:43
When you got the short stuff, it just feels like a shitty version
42:47
of tick-tock, you know? I don't know.
42:49
I just, I mean, it's pretty easy to upload videos.
42:51
Rose takes like 5 seconds and stuff bassist.
42:54
I do just doesn't inspire me do it.
42:55
I don't wanna get like, ooh, YouTube shorts.
42:57
I just do it because it's like another place to advertise if
43:01
that's the wrong attitude to have, I don't know, but if I
43:03
just can't see those apps taking over unless it makes a bigger
43:07
changes and make a commitment to just changing everything and
43:10
doing something new. Yeah.
43:12
And speaking of new and maybe a new app will come on the scene
43:15
and take over. I highly doubt it because I mean
43:18
Tick-Tock has been building for years.
43:19
I think it used to be music. Lee.
43:21
I think that's what it used to be and they change them into
43:23
Tick-Tock. And I mean it's had like what
43:27
like five years of Supremacy, you know, as far as that being
43:29
the number one social media app by numbers and just everything
43:33
else. And seems like even just people
43:37
who just want to muck around. Have a laugh, downloading this
43:39
app and alarming rate. And I think Todd knows that
43:43
they're not in any danger of losing their market share at
43:46
all. I just, I just can't see that
43:47
happening. Why do I think Tick-Tock has
43:52
such a big appeal, and Instagram cannot replicate this, despite
43:55
having added real Stone livestream.
43:57
So, obviously, I've touched on this, but I'll try to kind of
44:00
give a small succinct. It comes down to like things
44:03
like apis, and just how everything looks and feels when
44:08
you're using it. I feel like Tick-Tock feels a
44:12
lot more smooth and yes weird because like Instagram was the
44:17
image app and it still is but it's like anyone Instagram.
44:21
Posted posted a video, the quality always just fucks up.
44:24
Even if you got a good camera, it always looks a little bit
44:27
lesser in quality. Like I've got a really good
44:30
camera, my phone, right? But when I post my videos onto
44:33
Instagram, I don't know why, but it looks like they've gone
44:36
through like a shitty filter and now they just have dropped in
44:39
quality and I don't know why that is if it's just a shitty
44:43
here structure but not structures.
44:46
She ear like engine system that they've got for Instagram but
44:50
you know, they've been around for so long.
44:51
Long, they were acquired by Facebook and Facebook is running
44:53
so many things now, but I think that they're just not like
44:56
prioritizing it in a way that they should, and maybe they're
44:58
missing out. But I just I couldn't ever see
45:01
them being able to replicate what the success that takes all
45:04
kinds had. I mean, I think they've
45:06
certainly made a good go of it, but to me it was just feels like
45:08
they just copy everything that take table does and not very
45:11
well. But yeah, that's why I would say
45:14
it's such a, it has such a big appeal because it's everything
45:17
originates there. And people often will mention
45:19
the fact that, you know, content is Often.
45:22
And I did this, I'm guilty of this as well, but repurposing of
45:24
content just you know, you made on Tick-Tock and you post it
45:27
everywhere else. And obviously there's like apps
45:29
where you can like remove water marks from the videos and it
45:32
looks like you know just a regular video.
45:34
Now even that cup, let's move it forward.
45:40
I think. Yeah, some of the answers I had
45:42
actually just for that quick. Final question.
45:43
I didn't realize these were answers, I don't understand my
45:46
own notes. Ease of use, it's easy to create
45:49
videos. The ux UI Sign might simply just
45:52
be more appealing, sometimes things are just more appealing
45:55
when they look better. You know, sometimes I will say I
45:59
don't like the look of YouTube shorts.
46:02
I really don't just not appealing in the slightest and
46:06
people might not want to use Instagram because of its
46:08
connection to matter. For instance, people left in
46:11
droves from Facebook because of fears of their data privacy and
46:15
you constantly hear about people leaving Facebook or not having
46:18
used it in years and stuff and I feel like if Tick-Tock continues
46:23
in the manner that it isn't, it gets in trouble for data
46:25
privacy, concerns. You may see the same thing
46:27
happen with Tick-Tock, but it'd be a lot harder because Facebook
46:30
is kind of deteriorated in more recent years, as far as, like,
46:33
popularity is concerned. But Tick-Tock just keeps growing
46:36
and growing and growing changing, and becoming like the
46:38
app and I don't think as It's not going anywhere.
46:41
I couldn't see any new competitor coming on the scene
46:44
and changing art. I mean, I think at this point it
46:47
would be impressive if they could pull that off.
46:49
But let's look at some other the some of the other responses to
46:54
the bad things about Tick-Tock giving yourself ADHD.
46:59
Well I don't think you could give yourself ADHD by watching
47:04
it but I did yes it's against medical conditions has no idea
47:09
how that works but But I guess I think what this person is
47:12
driving at is that like you know that it does affect your
47:16
attention span. But it's true because it's that
47:19
instant gratification thing you're just constantly looking
47:22
for that. Five seconds of pleasure.
47:24
You like? Oh yeah.
47:25
Yeah good video. That was a fun video but if you
47:28
don't find it, you going to keep scrolling and scrolling
47:30
scrolling scrolling until you get out of that that fix.
47:32
It's almost like a drug. That's why I think social media
47:35
obsession is dangerous because it is like a drug, it's
47:38
intoxicating. And I think people Lose
47:40
themselves in it, and get too obsessed with it and forget
47:44
that, it's just an app and that sometimes it's just good to put
47:47
the phone down and, you know, that let you see this all the
47:50
time, people watching movies and just sitting on their phone and
47:53
again, not throwing stones by any shade of the imagination.
47:58
That's not how you say that. You know what I mean by any
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stretch of the imagination, I do it too.
48:02
Sometimes it's bad. I know I should just be there in
48:04
the moment enjoying the content but it's just a bad habit,
48:08
phones there, you know this check things.
48:10
It's sometimes it's nice and comforting to have the long form
48:12
content on in the background. I don't know.
48:16
I don't know, who am I? But yeah, there you go.
48:19
That's it in a nutshell, really? Yeah, and so a lot of these
48:23
responses from people with same, it's the same thing.
48:27
I'm stumbling my words. A lot of privacy problems in
48:29
killing too much time because it's addicting be self-aware and
48:32
use your limited time in life. Do you do good things for
48:34
yourself? I agree.
48:35
Absolutely. One person just said in response
48:38
to what's bad about Tick. Tick, Tock everything.
48:40
It screws with young or emotionally vulnerable people in
48:42
negative ways such as self higher self harm disguised as a
48:45
challenge. So this is kind of what I was
48:47
talking about earlier about the more dangerous stuff on on the
48:50
app and how it can affect - because you know there are a lot
48:53
of teenagers using this app children even and they're on
48:58
this app. They need to be protected but
49:00
they're being exposed to all this stuff and it's difficult to
49:03
think as a parent to stop your kids from doing that.
49:06
I mean you can't be around them 24/7 and my say everything that
49:09
they do and you Can't even if you did that mean, they could
49:12
still be shown it by other people.
49:13
So, it's never really liked 100% something, you can escape, you
49:18
know. Yeah, Tick Tock users being
49:22
racist. Sometimes, I've not really since
49:25
I've seen content that is racist, but I've not seen like
49:28
specifically Tick-Tock users being like that, but that should
49:32
be addressed. I think, in some way by
49:34
Tick-Tock, I don't know if they have done, but yeah, and also
49:37
yes, Shadow Banning see. I, uh, Stem, excuse me, Paul
49:43
Nicholson, who is a social content creator?
49:47
It's been on my show before about this and because he'd had
49:50
a meeting with Tick-Tock officials and it was, he
49:53
basically, just felt said they said, they'd never heard of
49:55
Shadow Banning before, and maybe they were lying, who knows?
49:58
But he basically it said to the mic, is it real?
50:00
And they're like, no. So I don't know, maybe it's not
50:03
but it it does seem like it's a thing because sometimes you can
50:06
go from getting like a say, like right now, I'm averaging like
50:09
34. 100 views per video. It doesn't happen straight away
50:14
a lot of the time, but that's generally what, I get either a
50:17
cumulatively over time over, maybe a week or suddenly,
50:21
sometimes, it can happen that way.
50:23
But then there's other people like, you know, that they'll be
50:25
like 500 or whatever. And then suddenly, that all the
50:28
videos go down to just, like, 20 views, and they just can't get
50:31
out of that. And I don't know.
50:33
I think, I don't know necessarily that Tick Tock is
50:36
like, actually shadow Banning you or if that's even a thing.
50:40
Do you think that they purposefully push you sometimes
50:43
but don't push you on this phone case?
50:45
But I do think it's automatic as well isn't necessarily like
50:48
governed by one person or because they're, how could you
50:51
keep up with that many users? It must all be computable to
50:54
mate. And that random, who knows, who
50:57
knows such things. And I think we're at the end of
51:01
the show, guys. Can you believe it?
51:03
Where the end of the show? Yes, by Vilma.
51:06
Thank you so much, Vilma, massive, massive.
51:08
Shout out to vilmer for a For sending at least questions and
51:11
helping me to put show together. What is the future of tick tock?
51:13
So I asked Tik Tik Tok, Tik Tok, what's the futuristic tied it
51:19
and yeah I got a mixed bag of responses are platforms before
51:23
it what was that sound? What was that sound?
51:26
There was a weird sound. What was that?
51:29
There's like a beep, beep, bop, bop bop.
51:32
Was that I'm freaked out now. That's, that's way.
51:37
The meow. I was not expecting that.
51:40
Oh, there's someone watching someone doing so maybe someone's
51:43
hacking into the computer that would be terrifying with it.
51:45
We talk about data, privacy issues, a tick tock, and then
51:48
someone started like hack into my computer.
51:50
What I'm doing? Zoom meeting for well, that's
51:53
what I use for the podcast. By the way, I use zoom.
51:56
It's possible for people to actually Pinch your livestreams
52:00
and hack into them. I've seen it have seen my videos
52:02
where people do it online is kind of crazy.
52:05
Yeah, some people think the app will eventually fizzle out?
52:09
I don't know if I necessarily believe that.
52:13
I think I think every app has its day.
52:15
I'm surprised, Facebook has lasted this long.
52:17
I'm surprised, Facebook was the app that became the biggest app
52:21
social media social media wise because, because one person said
52:24
my space. Yeah.
52:26
Like, what's the future Tick-Tock?
52:27
It will be like Myspace. And Myspace was A lot of fun.
52:30
It really was is arguably the best social media platform ever
52:33
created because there was just maximum usability as far as
52:38
being able to personalize it and it inspired loads of people to
52:41
get into coding and HTML editing and stuff like that.
52:44
And they're all these things that are introduced that are now
52:47
used by other apps as this, like a normal features.
52:49
But my space really spearheaded a lot of down.
52:52
There are apps. Before that libido was a big
52:54
one, but I feel like my space was really the kind of the
52:57
cutting-edge app that any was a Racial thing is 2005 up until
53:01
about two thousand nine. I mean it did exist somewhat
53:05
after that, it still exists this to this day, but, you know, it's
53:08
not the same and never will be. So, I think that's a very fair
53:11
response that it will become ticked.
53:14
It will become, like my space, I but, you never know.
53:17
I mean, as with anything, in life, if you continue to evolve
53:21
and change with the times, then you can stick around, you know,
53:24
and people will still consume what you do.
53:27
I mean, if you look at big businesses like McDonald's and
53:29
Coca, Cola and stuff. Like they could probably get by
53:32
just doing the same thing they've been doing for the last
53:33
50 years, but they don't need. They always, they do do that,
53:37
but they also add new products all the time.
53:39
Trial different things, do fun, contests whatever.
53:42
Try to keep people's attention and and remind them like hey, We
53:46
Exist by our stuff. And I think one of the
53:50
interesting things I've noticed Tick-Tock has been doing over
53:52
the last sort of two years is connecting with a lot of
53:55
businesses and staff and setting up like events and what not?
53:59
ER and getting into that side of things.
54:01
So they're kind of seeping into like General culture now.
54:05
So like you might not necessarily have everyone in
54:08
public on Tick-Tock. But chances are you got a fair
54:10
few people that have, at least checked it out.
54:12
Maybe they have a profile, maybe they don't, but they're aware of
54:14
it. They know what it is.
54:15
They see the marketing for it. They're aware of it.
54:17
So Tick-Tock has done a good job in that respect, but do I
54:20
personally think they'll stick around I don't know.
54:26
I said they've got at least got another five years, but after
54:28
that, we'll see. One person can go to another
54:31
app. I don't see why he would want to
54:33
buy this app, and he bought Tick-Tock why?
54:37
I don't know. He seems to be having fun with
54:40
that. And that's a bit of a dumpster
54:41
fire right now, but yeah, I think he'd be crazy to buy tick
54:46
time. He's crazy to buy Twitter, so
54:48
buying ticked up with just be a full-on meltdown.
54:50
Anyone info leaks out about the CCP using data collected from
54:54
Tick-Tock for Large and tracking app gets banned.
54:58
Hmm. I mean that ties into what you
55:01
were saying earlier about how you know, the conspiracy
55:02
theories and how it could be a real.
55:04
It could actually be for that intended purpose.
55:07
I think it's likely but you never know, you never know.
55:11
One person just simply said, I hope there won't be if I'm being
55:14
honest. Yeah I just I hope there's no
55:16
future for Tick-Tock scooter got, I hope maybe exists but
55:20
they get held accountable for their data protection stuff and
55:24
they get forced to sort of act. In accordance with the law and
55:27
the rules. Yeah, I don't know if it
55:29
disappears 10 more will step in to replace it.
55:32
This is why capitalism Works. People want to get rich.
55:35
That doesn't mean that they can't share the wealth, though.
55:38
I'm not gonna get into a discussion about capitalism and
55:40
if it works or not. But what I will say is that I
55:43
agree with the first part of this sentence, if it disappears
55:45
10 more will step in to replace it.
55:48
Then there's always something around the corner when vine shut
55:51
down, Tick-Tock emerged. You know, and a lot of people
55:55
have said that vine was better and yeah, I agree.
55:58
It probably was but Tick-Tock has kind of Incorporated.
56:01
Vine. People still do like Vine type
56:03
videos but now it's music-related as well and it
56:06
doesn't have to have music but you know that is basically just
56:09
Vine with music and what will be the next thing?
56:13
Probably something based in virtual reality, who, who knows?
56:17
But that brings us to the end of this episode on Tick-Tock.
56:21
I hope you've enjoyed it. I hope it wasn't too much of a
56:23
ramble thong. Um, and I hope I was coherent.
56:25
And actually gave you guys something worth listening to, or
56:28
watching will have your preferences, because I know
56:31
there's some people watch this on YouTube and Spotify, nice,
56:34
pretty mad. I'm starting to wonder if video
56:36
versions will be available in the other platforms.
56:38
At some point was crazy. When Spotify actually added
56:41
video for creators like me, like, it started at the beta
56:44
feature. I thought it was just going to
56:46
be available for big creators like Joe Rogan and stuff, but
56:49
then like about three, four months back, I saw this beta
56:53
feature. Bata bata bata, bata feature
56:57
enabling you to upload videos as I surely not.
57:00
And then I replaced all of the recordings as many as I could
57:04
basically all the way up to like, episode 19.
57:06
Because I think before episode 19, I was Audio Only.
57:08
And after episode 19, it was video video video, but it was
57:13
kept the audio versions as well. And I do that for those who
57:15
don't know behind the scenes, I record a resume version of the
57:18
podcast and then an audio version and I normally just
57:21
upload the zoom:1. Cuz the recording comes out well
57:24
but if it doesn't, I'll upload the edited edited audio version.
57:29
So boring podcast took their but yeah, it's simple.
57:33
That's how it works. I hope that you enjoyed this
57:35
show. If you have any questions about
57:38
Tick-Tock or you want to do a follow-up or something, let me
57:41
know if you have ideas for topics you'd like me to cover in
57:44
the future or guests that you'd like to see appear on the show
57:47
or if you would like to appear on the show and you have
57:49
something particular you'd like to discuss or you just want to
57:52
promote yourself and have a good old.
57:53
Annoyed with me. Chin.
57:54
Wag conversation with me. Send me an email at Christian
57:59
Reeve podcast at gmail.com. Thank you so much for watching
58:04
for listening. I hope you enjoyed this show.
58:06
As much as I did doing it, I'm going to go and eat or sleep or
58:10
something crash. I don't know.
58:11
Answer that properly. Thank you so much.
58:13
I love you and I'll see you all in the next episode.