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- 0:00Speaker 1: Allow me to reinroduce myself. My name is I'm Willpelgic.
- 0:26Speaker 1: All right, y'all, le's go time. It's time for the
- 0:29Speaker 1: p man. We gotta bring him in on the Sloppy
- 0:31Speaker 1: Joe conversation. We're gonna talk about Tim Reems sloppy pass
- 0:36Speaker 1: that led to the goal that probably has knocked them
- 0:40Speaker 1: out of the League's Cup. Not done deal yet. They could
- 0:42Speaker 1: use a lot of help and get in. But man,
- 0:45Speaker 1: it was there for him last night. I had the
- 0:47Speaker 1: one Neil lost to Pachuca. We got Panthers conversations and
- 0:51Speaker 1: we got things to do with the man Willie P.
- 0:54Speaker 1: He gets to get back onto Mike for Charlotte FC
- 0:56Speaker 1: big MLS game against Columbus at the Bank on Saturday,
- 1:01Speaker 1: and we do get to talk about Maxie. My god,
- 1:03Speaker 1: he is electric. Willie P joins us on the Mac
- 1:06Speaker 1: and Bone Show.
- 1:07Speaker 2: What's up?
- 1:07Speaker 3: He man? How you feeling morning, guys? How are you
- 1:11Speaker 3: We're doing? Good man?
- 1:12Speaker 1: Where do you fall? It's a it's a uh. It's
- 1:16Speaker 1: a debate right now about the worthiness of the Sloppy
- 1:20Speaker 1: Joe sandwich. Where do you fall? Are you a sloppy
- 1:23Speaker 1: Joe guy? Or could you do without them.
- 1:26Speaker 4: Guys, I'm thirty nine years old. I could drop dead tomorrow.
- 1:30Speaker 4: If Sloppy Joe is the last thing that eats that
- 1:33Speaker 4: I eat that greases my palate before I die, I
- 1:37Speaker 4: want to do over.
- 1:38Speaker 5: No, thank you, I didn't know where that was going. Yeah,
- 1:42Speaker 5: that got that got a Hopefully you're okay.
- 1:44Speaker 1: I know the FC walls is tough on you there,
- 1:46Speaker 1: but what's hey, you in there, old baby, You're still
- 1:48Speaker 1: a live baby.
- 1:49Speaker 3: What is what exactly is my age have dropped dead?
- 1:52Speaker 2: That's all? That's what happens, all.
- 1:54Speaker 5: Right, Hopefully you hang through this segment because we got
- 1:57Speaker 5: to get through this thing. What what? What is wrong
- 1:59Speaker 5: with the with the old sj.
- 2:03Speaker 4: I just there's five thousand other things I could think
- 2:06Speaker 4: of that I'd rather eat than Sloppy Joe's I could.
- 2:08Speaker 4: I'd rather have a hot dog. I'd rather have hamburger.
- 2:11Speaker 4: I'd rather have chicken nuggets. I'd rather have raisin canes.
- 2:14Speaker 4: I'd rather have something. I'd rather have literally anything else
- 2:17Speaker 4: on the planet than Sloppy Joke.
- 2:19Speaker 1: That's kind of where I'm at is like there's a
- 2:21Speaker 1: lot of good, kind of casual like cheap options.
- 2:27Speaker 4: That might be the worst use of ground beef you
- 2:29Speaker 4: could possibly find. Not that there's a bad use for
- 2:32Speaker 4: ground beef, but that's probably the worst ground beef.
- 2:35Speaker 2: Why don't you take that ground beef.
- 2:36Speaker 4: Put it into a paddy and put it on a
- 2:38Speaker 4: put it in between two.
- 2:38Speaker 2: Buns, and make it a burger.
- 2:39Speaker 5: Shock Yeah, back, yeah, shocking, your elitist mindset is above
- 2:43Speaker 5: a slappy Joe.
- 2:44Speaker 4: Oh shocking that you're on an island with this one.
- 2:47Speaker 2: Bone.
- 2:47Speaker 4: Both the other two people in there in the building
- 2:49Speaker 4: have told you, Yeah, hell no, we won't go sloppy Joe.
- 2:54Speaker 3: We won't go sloppy Joe. Do you think I want
- 2:58Speaker 3: to be in an eyehold these two.
- 3:01Speaker 4: I'm just saying you could just join us all in
- 3:03Speaker 4: the you know what, there's other things.
- 3:05Speaker 2: That's out there.
- 3:05Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not looking down on people who eat
- 3:08Speaker 4: the mind.
- 3:08Speaker 5: With be on an island by myself. Suretless leighing in
- 3:13Speaker 5: a sand or a beach. That is all sloppy Joe.
- 3:16Speaker 1: This dude says, I've always known that these three were elitist,
- 3:20Speaker 1: and Bone was the real man of the people.
- 3:22Speaker 3: So there you go.
- 3:23Speaker 5: I'm a man, I'm a I'm here for the common man.
- 3:26Speaker 5: Bone the common man.
- 3:28Speaker 2: The man of the people.
- 3:29Speaker 4: The real man of the people is Kyle Bailey eating
- 3:31Speaker 4: Sloppy Joe's or eating us spaghetios every day.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, there were some Kyle Bailey spaghettio references. Well,
- 3:36Speaker 1: I'm sure hopefully eat spaghettios.
- 3:38Speaker 2: I'd rather eat spaghettios.
- 3:39Speaker 4: Than than man Witch or Sloppy Joe's.
- 3:42Speaker 3: I would eat seven. I would eat spaghettios over it.
- 3:45Speaker 1: And there there here's a text that says, if you
- 3:48Speaker 1: have ground beef, make a burger or heck makes make
- 3:50Speaker 1: pasta and and have the ground beef in with the pasta.
- 3:53Speaker 1: Yeah those are better uses. Yeah, those are better uses.
- 3:56Speaker 1: All right, anyway, we got we cannot post post this
- 3:59Speaker 1: dude's this dude says, forget the sloppy Joes. We need
- 4:03Speaker 1: FC answers. WILLI was not he was not the manager
- 4:06Speaker 1: last night, and he wasn't playing. I just want to
- 4:08Speaker 1: point that out. But let's talk about it, Pee. That
- 4:12Speaker 1: loss frustrated me. The Maxi conversation will be a fun
- 4:17Speaker 1: one because my god, you can just see the difference
- 4:19Speaker 1: he's going to make, and he made it last night.
- 4:21Speaker 1: But let's just start with the opportunity. They kind of blew, like,
- 4:26Speaker 1: how much does that bum you out?
- 4:29Speaker 4: It definitely does bum me out when you think about
- 4:31Speaker 4: the fact that you're literally a penalty away from potentially
- 4:34Speaker 4: advancing to a quarterfinal and a tournament that you've only
- 4:37Speaker 4: gotten to the quarterfinal in, and you find yourself potentially
- 4:41Speaker 4: two victories away from being in the Contact Champions Cup,
- 4:44Speaker 4: which is the most prestigious tournament in this in this
- 4:46Speaker 4: country outside of you know, your own league play. It's
- 4:50Speaker 4: difficult to swallow. I don't have a problem with Archie
- 4:54Speaker 4: Goodwin taking the penalty. You know, you guys know that
- 4:56Speaker 4: I study this and from the penalty standpoint, you know,
- 5:00Speaker 4: of the options that were out there on the field,
- 5:02Speaker 4: you know, Archie's was probably the best option.
- 5:05Speaker 2: I know.
- 5:05Speaker 4: People will say Westy west unfortunately has missed them as well.
- 5:08Speaker 4: From Cheryl Let's see and I chronicle all these things
- 5:11Speaker 4: that people are going to ask, you know, whether or
- 5:13Speaker 4: not whether or not Maxie should have been the option.
- 5:16Speaker 2: Maxie is not really a penalty taker, guys.
- 5:18Speaker 4: He's somebody who in his career has not taken a
- 5:22Speaker 4: lot of penalties, only three in his career.
- 5:24Speaker 2: He's two for three.
- 5:26Speaker 4: Westy's six to ten in his career taking penalties. Archie Goodwin,
- 5:30Speaker 4: you know, coming into the game last night, had made
- 5:32Speaker 4: all five of his previous penalties so in his career.
- 5:35Speaker 4: So I had no problem with Archie taking a penalty.
- 5:38Speaker 4: And as Dean said last night, you know, there are
- 5:41Speaker 4: worse players to abyss penalties.
- 5:42Speaker 2: There are greater players to abyss penalties.
- 5:45Speaker 4: It's not something that is the most preferred option. My
- 5:49Speaker 4: whole problem is I don't like how we still have
- 5:51Speaker 4: these these errors in the back.
- 5:54Speaker 2: Like like you could have played them even.
- 5:56Speaker 4: I would not have been as angry about playing them even.
- 6:01Speaker 2: And winning in penalties.
- 6:02Speaker 4: But the fact that you get nothing out of that
- 6:04Speaker 4: match last night, when you know, quite frankly, Pachuca did
- 6:08Speaker 4: really threaten a lot in the contest and he feels
- 6:11Speaker 4: like you gave them that game.
- 6:13Speaker 2: That's incredibly disappointing.
- 6:15Speaker 5: I think it's a it's a multifaceted conversation because we
- 6:18Speaker 5: could talk about the decision on who kicked the ball,
- 6:22Speaker 5: and then there's the execution part of the PK. So
- 6:25Speaker 5: I do think that you're right based off the numbers,
- 6:28Speaker 5: Archie was the right guy. It was just a it
- 6:31Speaker 5: was just a terrible PK. So the the right choice,
- 6:33Speaker 5: bad execution.
- 6:34Speaker 4: On the kick was a bad I wouldn't say it
- 6:36Speaker 4: was a bad penalty.
- 6:37Speaker 2: I just think it was for me to.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Say it wasn't It was not far, It was not
- 6:40Speaker 1: far enough in the corner. He made it too easy
- 6:44Speaker 1: for him and a loco. Why did a loco not
- 6:47Speaker 1: try to bend that just curl that thing into the
- 6:51Speaker 1: left side of the goal instead of bringing back across
- 6:53Speaker 1: the goalie Like a Loco's got so much athletic ability,
- 6:57Speaker 1: he's a beast. It's like the technical stuff. Man, is
- 7:00Speaker 1: he going to get it? You know, the final the
- 7:03Speaker 1: final action? Is he going to get that? Ah?
- 7:07Speaker 4: Yeah, the as Dean said, you created the two best
- 7:09Speaker 4: chances in the game, you know, the penalty chance and
- 7:11Speaker 4: and the locos right there at the beginning of the
- 7:13Speaker 4: second half, and you don't find a way to win.
- 7:16Speaker 4: That's that's kind of that's on you.
- 7:18Speaker 6: And and you know, I here's the only other thing
- 7:21Speaker 6: that I've just.
- 7:22Speaker 4: Has nothing to do with the game, but the amount
- 7:24Speaker 4: of jeopardy that you put yourself in this tournament where
- 7:27Speaker 4: you know you basically have to win all three and
- 7:30Speaker 4: get the right goal differential. I mean, you think about
- 7:32Speaker 4: the teams that all were on two wins last night, uh, Cincinnati,
- 7:36Speaker 4: Columbus and Charlotte. None of them got maximum points last night.
- 7:40Speaker 4: It was it was odd to see the jeopardy that
- 7:43Speaker 4: this tournament puts you in.
- 7:44Speaker 2: And I just I don't know. I I know that
- 7:48Speaker 2: they want to do this thing.
- 7:50Speaker 4: They want to do this tournament, and I liked the
- 7:52Speaker 4: tournament in concept, but the fact that you have a
- 7:56Speaker 4: team that basically has won two games and they don't
- 7:58Speaker 4: advance in this tournament, it's just I prob'm feel about
- 8:01Speaker 4: it just kind of feels wonky. And you could tell that,
- 8:04Speaker 4: you know, the only teams that seem to care about
- 8:05Speaker 4: it are you know, the teams.
- 8:07Speaker 2: With big Mexican fan bases.
- 8:09Speaker 4: Like Pub America and others. I just I really wish
- 8:13Speaker 4: they could do it in a way where it feels
- 8:14Speaker 4: like people can get behind it, because you look at
- 8:16Speaker 4: places across the league that no one's going on these games,
- 8:19Speaker 4: which I feel bad about because I just I want
- 8:22Speaker 4: to see the tournament work.
- 8:23Speaker 3: Can't you make it?
- 8:24Speaker 1: Can't can't they make it as part of the season
- 8:27Speaker 1: ticket package. I know they're trying. It's a different competition,
- 8:30Speaker 1: so they're trying to make money off of it or whatever.
- 8:33Speaker 2: One of the games is one of the games.
- 8:34Speaker 3: One is okay, one of the three.
- 8:37Speaker 4: The Pumas game this year was the one that was
- 8:38Speaker 4: part of the season ticket.
- 8:39Speaker 1: I mean, I'm just mad about it all, like the
- 8:41Speaker 1: pep bl thing, Like I don't know exactly what he
- 8:44Speaker 1: said to that referee, but apparently like he doesn't have
- 8:46Speaker 1: to kill.
- 8:47Speaker 2: The referee, how good of a job he did, which was.
- 8:49Speaker 1: Terrible, So okay, so he did criticize the referee, was
- 8:52Speaker 1: a smart alecabat, Like, but does the referee have to
- 8:55Speaker 1: literally red cardon which means you can't play in a
- 8:57Speaker 1: decisive game. Feels like the referee was was a little
- 8:59Speaker 1: sense again.
- 9:01Speaker 4: Didn't he didn't curse the referee, which again makes me
- 9:03Speaker 4: feel like, okay, this guy got.
- 9:04Speaker 2: A little bit over sensitive big time. The whole thing,
- 9:07Speaker 2: the whole thing is.
- 9:08Speaker 4: Just I'm just not a fan of of of anything
- 9:11Speaker 4: about it.
- 9:12Speaker 2: Some glower back the league.
- 9:13Speaker 1: Play, let's talk about and that'll be Saturday night against Columbus.
- 9:16Speaker 1: This could be a fun one to be at the bank, y'all.
- 9:17Speaker 1: And Matt, I wonder if Maxie gets to start in
- 9:20Speaker 1: this one, Willie. How excited I mean, I have to
- 9:24Speaker 1: tell you, I was really excited to see him. I
- 9:26Speaker 1: was really excited about the signing. I thought there might
- 9:29Speaker 1: be a ramp up period, right because he hasn't been
- 9:31Speaker 1: active in a while.
- 9:33Speaker 3: Holy crap, bone set it earlier. The first touch.
- 9:36Speaker 1: It was like three guys on Patchuka smell you later, man, like, dude,
- 9:41Speaker 1: he is gonna toast him running back in the open
- 9:44Speaker 1: field and they can't catch. He gonna toast some fullbacks,
- 9:46Speaker 1: isn't he.
- 9:47Speaker 2: I mean, he's he's uh, he's incredible. Man.
- 9:50Speaker 4: I just even watching him train, you know, the last
- 9:54Speaker 4: couple of days since he's been here, you could tell
- 9:56Speaker 4: this that after a little bit of sauce that he
- 9:58Speaker 4: brings to the table, and we saw it on the
- 10:00Speaker 4: game field for.
- 10:01Speaker 2: The first time.
- 10:03Speaker 4: It is and it is evident that, you know, from
- 10:05Speaker 4: a fitness standpoint, that's probably still a little bit that
- 10:08Speaker 4: has to happen before he's able to get ninety minutes fit.
- 10:11Speaker 4: Maybe the twenty that he got last night can get
- 10:14Speaker 4: him to a point where maybe you get him close
- 10:16Speaker 4: to thirty or forty five potentially for a second half
- 10:19Speaker 4: appearance against Columbus. That's the only part of it that
- 10:23Speaker 4: I think is a little bit upsetting that he isn't
- 10:26Speaker 4: further along. But when he was on the field, he
- 10:29Speaker 4: was dynamic. I mean, he did enough to win the penalty,
- 10:31Speaker 4: and he's somebody who continues to be that creator. And
- 10:35Speaker 4: right now, Charlott of c needs those answers because as
- 10:38Speaker 4: you saw before, you know, in the seventy minutes that
- 10:40Speaker 4: led up to that, you know, when you don't have
- 10:42Speaker 4: pet Bl on the pitch, you are struggling to find
- 10:44Speaker 4: a creator.
- 10:45Speaker 2: So you know, when you get.
- 10:46Speaker 6: Both those guys together, I think the real.
- 10:49Speaker 4: Thing, that's when the real thing gets unlocked because you're
- 10:52Speaker 4: not gonna be able to commit three bodies to Alan
- 10:54Speaker 4: said maximum with pet Bl on the pitch. You're just
- 10:56Speaker 4: not because if you do that then then your defense
- 10:59Speaker 4: is in peril right now.
- 11:00Speaker 1: Big, So how about pet maybe playing him in behind
- 11:02Speaker 1: a line. I mean, it's just oh, and I think
- 11:05Speaker 1: they can get to Klamati unlocked again together, like I
- 11:07Speaker 1: think they can create for him because he needs some
- 11:10Speaker 1: service so he can get going. All right, I'm looking
- 11:13Speaker 1: forward to with Maxi and we'll have to get over
- 11:15Speaker 1: last night. As far as as far as the Panthers go, Uh,
- 11:20Speaker 1: p man, what did you? Uh?
- 11:23Speaker 3: Did you?
- 11:24Speaker 1: What were your Do you have any conclusions from the
- 11:26Speaker 1: first preseason game, like are you a part of Haines
- 11:29Speaker 1: King Nation officially?
- 11:30Speaker 4: Willie Well, I think you gotta find a way to
- 11:32Speaker 4: get him on the field, obviously.
- 11:34Speaker 2: I think that you know we've we've we've talked.
- 11:36Speaker 4: A lot about how the Panthers don't really have a
- 11:39Speaker 4: legitimate short yardage option on the team.
- 11:43Speaker 6: I think Haynes King could.
- 11:44Speaker 2: Be that option.
- 11:45Speaker 4: I know you can't probably use him like the battering
- 11:48Speaker 4: ram that Taysom Hill does is, but I think there
- 11:50Speaker 4: are ways to scheme him into situations where you can
- 11:54Speaker 4: you can use him, whether it's a third and two
- 11:56Speaker 4: or a third one. I think you feel a heck
- 11:58Speaker 4: of a lot better with him seeking the football to
- 12:00Speaker 4: you do possibly Bryce Young, and also you put in
- 12:03Speaker 4: a package of passes for him too to throw the
- 12:05Speaker 4: team off and keep the opposition. Honest, I think it's
- 12:07Speaker 4: something that is a nice little wrinkle that that Dave
- 12:10Speaker 4: can Allison out to the offense. I also like the
- 12:12Speaker 4: fact that we saw some guys step up, like Ja
- 12:14Speaker 4: seem Reid, who saw a couple of the you know
- 12:17Speaker 4: guys out of the backfield. I don't think those guys
- 12:18Speaker 4: necessarily have a chance to lay the football team because
- 12:21Speaker 4: the Panther running back room is stacked. I feel bad
- 12:23Speaker 4: for aj Dillon, the guy who literally is the Charlotte
- 12:26Speaker 4: bucket list guy. I don't know if you keep three
- 12:29Speaker 4: quarterbacks on the team, if he's somebody who you keep
- 12:32Speaker 4: on the team because of your ability to want to
- 12:34Speaker 4: keep you know, Brooks an eighth chan So I think
- 12:37Speaker 4: it's a I think it was a good first preseason game.
- 12:40Speaker 4: I don't think it was a perfect first preseason game.
- 12:42Speaker 4: I love love that we're going to get to see
- 12:45Speaker 4: a lot of the first team offense, or at least
- 12:48Speaker 4: more of the first team offense than we've seen in
- 12:50Speaker 4: previous preseasons. The fifteen to twenty plays, I said on
- 12:54Speaker 4: Twitter earlier this week when we found that out, that's
- 12:57Speaker 4: an incredible step forward for this team because one thing
- 13:00Speaker 4: that had been frustrating for each of the last two seasons,
- 13:03Speaker 4: it felt like the Panthers had started very, very slow,
- 13:05Speaker 4: particularly offensively.
- 13:07Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that you attribute that one for
- 13:09Speaker 2: one with.
- 13:10Speaker 4: The lack of opportunity and reps during the preseason. But
- 13:13Speaker 4: I like that they were at least trying something different
- 13:16Speaker 4: outside of you know, getting all that work during the
- 13:18Speaker 4: joint practices, which I know is very very helpful, and
- 13:21Speaker 4: all the coaches said that that's actually more help than
- 13:23Speaker 4: the actual pieces of the game themselves, but actually getting on
- 13:27Speaker 4: the game field and trapping it on and and doing
- 13:29Speaker 4: something more than listen to the year piece. I think
- 13:31Speaker 4: it is something that's a step forward for this for
- 13:33Speaker 4: this organization, and and hopefully it leads to a better
- 13:36Speaker 4: start when when the games start to count for real.
- 13:38Speaker 1: Definitely, definitely do you have an uncultured swine or have
- 13:41Speaker 1: you already ripped the uncultured swine?
- 13:43Speaker 3: Who's your un cultured swine?
- 13:45Speaker 6: Yeah, the sloppy Joe is mine culture swine.
- 13:48Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
- 13:48Speaker 6: I decided I can't. I can't get down with it.
- 13:51Speaker 6: I'm sorry.
- 13:51Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'll get about it with you.
- 13:55Speaker 3: Wall got bad news for you, guys.
- 13:57Speaker 5: I'm getting together a Swappy Joe meet up one of
- 14:00Speaker 5: these weekends. You guys not involved, do not come and
- 14:03Speaker 5: knocking on Slappy Saturday.
- 14:06Speaker 6: We will go.
- 14:07Speaker 2: We will go and eat.
- 14:08Speaker 4: We will go and eat burgers with everybody at the
- 14:10Speaker 4: station other than Flounder because he's somehow in inflicably still
- 14:12Speaker 4: hates Hamburger.
- 14:13Speaker 1: That's a problem right now, that's a take we can
- 14:16Speaker 1: all get against. I can tell you that right I'm
- 14:18Speaker 1: about being on an island anti Hamburger island for Flounder,
- 14:22Speaker 1: all right, P Man. Looking forward to hearing your call
- 14:24Speaker 1: on Saturday night and seeing Maxie back in action.
- 14:28Speaker 3: Thank you, brother, Appreciate you always.
- 14:31Speaker 2: Guys, thank you all right?
- 14:32Speaker 1: Do you go the P Man, Ladies and gentlemen. Everybody's
- 14:36Speaker 1: making the same joke, by the way, about Pee. I
- 14:38Speaker 1: didn't have the heart to tell him what's that. It's
- 14:39Speaker 1: all tell him behind his back, that's what you do best. Everybody,
- 14:43Speaker 1: my god, everybody is making a joke that's similar to
- 14:47Speaker 1: this one right here from the seven o four number.
- 14:50Speaker 1: P Man on here hating on sloppy Joe's but his
- 14:53Speaker 1: brisket is like wood bark. I'm not saying everybody said
- 14:57Speaker 1: wood book, you know some like of that, Like, how's
- 15:01Speaker 1: he hate on the sloppy Joe with.
- 15:02Speaker 3: The dye said he might want to add some manwich
- 15:04Speaker 3: to that brisket.
- 15:07Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, turn Ferguson f Willie's tribe, Brisket f
- 15:12Speaker 1: that elitist Willie P and his little elite buddy Fitty.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Oh god, y'all angry, sloppy Joe Nation is angry at us.
- 15:21Speaker 3: Man would bark. Oh my god, that is kind of funny.
- 15:25Speaker 3: That's funny. All right, we come back, Mack.
- 15:27Speaker 5: We're gonna talk to a next pert who runs the
- 15:30Speaker 5: Yahoo betting hub. He's gonna give us the insight on
- 15:34Speaker 5: the Panters not being seen anywhere near the money line
- 15:39Speaker 5: in terms of betters against Chicago, and he's got some
- 15:41Speaker 5: info on the unc TCU wine. He's gonna give us
- 15:44Speaker 5: a season preview. Ben Fox is next on Sports Radio
- 15:47Speaker 5: ninety two seven WFNZ.
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- 16:53Speaker 1: all over at us. Right now, though, no need to
- 16:56Speaker 1: get angry. Your next guest, he's gonna give you some
- 16:58Speaker 1: betting analysis here. I'm sure a lot of y'all are
- 17:01Speaker 1: getting ready to bet football games. Heck, some of you
- 17:03Speaker 1: probably started with the Hall of Fame game. I won't
- 17:05Speaker 1: judge it all right. And Ben Fox is a senior
- 17:09Speaker 1: sports betting analyst for Yahoo Sports, and he joins us
- 17:12Speaker 1: here on the Mac and Bone Showed to talk betting
- 17:15Speaker 1: and football. Two beautiful things. Hey Ben, how you been man?
- 17:18Speaker 1: What's going on?
- 17:20Speaker 7: Doing well?
- 17:21Speaker 2: Fellows?
- 17:21Speaker 7: I was going to say, don't tell yourself short. They
- 17:23Speaker 7: might want to listen twice. They might want to listen
- 17:25Speaker 7: to the same show later in the day. Just you know,
- 17:27Speaker 7: I feel like I didn't miss anything.
- 17:30Speaker 3: You haven't some of those guys, Ben, tell us why
- 17:32Speaker 3: we're wrong twice.
- 17:34Speaker 1: I didn't want to get greedy. I'm glad you said it. No, Bet,
- 17:37Speaker 1: I didn't want to get greedy. But hey, if you
- 17:39Speaker 1: want to listen twice baby, let's do it all right.
- 17:41Speaker 1: So we actually had a segment Ben about something that
- 17:45Speaker 1: you shared about the betting on the on the with
- 17:50Speaker 1: MGM and how heavily slanted it was. I think you
- 17:53Speaker 1: put this over the weekend. How heavily slanted it was
- 17:56Speaker 1: on the week one game towards the Bears over the Panther.
- 18:00Speaker 1: I guess it was like ninety three percent of the
- 18:03Speaker 1: bets when it came to the point spread where Bears
- 18:06Speaker 1: minus two and a half. Does that surprise you? I mean,
- 18:09Speaker 1: we're kind of Panther homer, so we like we took
- 18:12Speaker 1: exception with American betters for that. But does that surprise
- 18:16Speaker 1: you at all? Or does that make sense to you?
- 18:19Speaker 6: No?
- 18:20Speaker 7: I mean I think it makes sense. There's a little
- 18:22Speaker 7: bit I think as I talked to one Odds maker
- 18:24Speaker 7: of what he called the love affair with the Bears
- 18:27Speaker 7: this offseason. Right, so there's always kind of that team
- 18:30Speaker 7: right where oh Man look at that everyone remembers Caleb
- 18:34Speaker 7: Williams right against the ram backpedaling that unbelievable touchdown pass,
- 18:39Speaker 7: and so I think they're projecting that and they're saying, Okay,
- 18:43Speaker 7: do we really think that Panthers are that good? It's
- 18:46Speaker 7: less than a field goal, even though it's on the
- 18:48Speaker 7: road week one, Hey, this is free money, right Usually
- 18:52Speaker 7: that's a bad idea, right home, underdog under a field
- 18:55Speaker 7: goal is usually a pretty profitable over the long term angles,
- 19:00Speaker 7: So I'm not surprised that we've seen the public latch
- 19:04Speaker 7: on again. Obviously a long ways until the game actually
- 19:08Speaker 7: kicks off, but I would think that that will hold,
- 19:12Speaker 7: and it will still it's not going to be ninety
- 19:13Speaker 7: percent necessarily of the best and the money on the
- 19:16Speaker 7: Bears to cover, but I would expect that's certainly going
- 19:20Speaker 7: to be one unless that kind of gets up to
- 19:23Speaker 7: three and maybe there's some buyback on the Panthers. But
- 19:27Speaker 7: I think from the public's perspective, it seems like, Wow,
- 19:30Speaker 7: I think the Bears are better than the Panthers. They're
- 19:33Speaker 7: getting less than a field goal. To me, this seems
- 19:36Speaker 7: like a good wager, So I think that's where that is.
- 19:38Speaker 7: I think it's probably more pro Bears than anti Panthers.
- 19:42Speaker 3: Yeah, they are trendy, No, doubt.
- 19:43Speaker 5: Ben's got some great info all the time, betting wise
- 19:47Speaker 5: on his Twitter feed at b Fox twenty two. That's
- 19:50Speaker 5: b Fawks two to two. I encourage people to give
- 19:54Speaker 5: a follow. There's a lot of information like that, like
- 19:57Speaker 5: right there about the Bears number right now with the Panthers. Ben,
- 20:02Speaker 5: when it comes to betting the NFC South champion, who
- 20:06Speaker 5: do you think is the best bet right now?
- 20:10Speaker 7: Man, I would love to come on and say the
- 20:12Speaker 7: Panthers because I don't want to disappoint the disappoint the listeners.
- 20:18Speaker 7: I think I think I probably would go with the
- 20:22Speaker 7: Saints just because of the potential value that you're that
- 20:27Speaker 7: you're getting as well. So you got to look a
- 20:30Speaker 7: little bit at who you think is going to win
- 20:33Speaker 7: and then kind of the price potentially that you're getting
- 20:36Speaker 7: as well. So you have the bus are favored right
- 20:40Speaker 7: now the Saints plus one eighty Saints second round plus
- 20:43Speaker 7: two sixty Panthers plus three twenty five balcons about four
- 20:47Speaker 7: to one. I think the Saints, even though that's plus
- 20:52Speaker 7: two sixty. A lot of the difference there between them
- 20:55Speaker 7: is also the schedule. Some of that is just who
- 20:59Speaker 7: the you're playing. Right outside of those divisional games and
- 21:03Speaker 7: some of those other ones. So the Panthers, because they
- 21:06Speaker 7: won that division, they have a much tougher schedule I
- 21:10Speaker 7: think they have. I want to say, yeah, they have
- 21:12Speaker 7: the third toughest schedule by opposing season win totals. So
- 21:16Speaker 7: if you take the schedule for seventeen games, you add
- 21:19Speaker 7: up the win total of every single opponent that they have,
- 21:23Speaker 7: they have the third toughest schedule in the NFL, Whereas
- 21:27Speaker 7: I think the Saints are somewhere around like twenty eight,
- 21:30Speaker 7: twenty nine. They've one of the easier schedules. So based
- 21:35Speaker 7: off of that, Tyler Schuck rising a lot of people
- 21:37Speaker 7: also like him, not sold on the Bucks without Mike
- 21:42Speaker 7: Evans and you know the Vita Vea situation and all
- 21:46Speaker 7: that and the Falcons. I just think I just did
- 21:49Speaker 7: a piece asking odds makers basically the point spread difference
- 21:53Speaker 7: between the starter and the backup if the starter went out,
- 21:56Speaker 7: and there was roughly a point difference between to as
- 22:01Speaker 7: a starter in Michael Pennix Junior, which is kind of
- 22:04Speaker 7: bad in both situations, Right, It's bad there's only a
- 22:07Speaker 7: point difference, and then it's also bad that was the
- 22:10Speaker 7: least difference between the starter and the backup. So basically
- 22:13Speaker 7: opsmakers saying neither of them are very good. It doesn't
- 22:16Speaker 7: really matter who's there. So if you're taking the best
- 22:20Speaker 7: kind of skill position talent, you have the Falcons, but
- 22:23Speaker 7: is anyone getting them the ball? Which has been their
- 22:25Speaker 7: issue over and over and with the Falcons you just
- 22:29Speaker 7: worry their biggest issue with the pass rush. They then
- 22:33Speaker 7: went ahead and drafted a pass rusher and traded up
- 22:36Speaker 7: for another pass rusher, and we know one isn't going
- 22:39Speaker 7: to be on the field with Jalen Walker and his
- 22:42Speaker 7: knee injury, and now we're not sure certainly about James
- 22:45Speaker 7: Pierce Junior. So all of a sudden, what you thought
- 22:48Speaker 7: potentially could be solving some of that weakness now turns
- 22:51Speaker 7: into a weakness. And you gave up draft capital to
- 22:54Speaker 7: get that. So there's a lot of question marks for
- 22:57Speaker 7: a lot of the teams. It's one of the wide open.
- 23:00Speaker 7: But I think in terms of the value and potential
- 23:03Speaker 7: kind of on the rise, I would look. I would
- 23:06Speaker 7: look for the Saints as well as how Tyler Shuck
- 23:08Speaker 7: played towards the end of last year.
- 23:10Speaker 1: Hey, I won't hold it against you because you just
- 23:13Speaker 1: told us how down on the falcons you are.
- 23:14Speaker 3: That made it better. Okay, that made it better at
- 23:16Speaker 3: the end.
- 23:17Speaker 1: That's a good see good plan there. You touted the
- 23:19Speaker 1: Saints and you rip the falcons. That falcon's ripping is
- 23:21Speaker 1: going to carry me through.
- 23:22Speaker 3: All right.
- 23:23Speaker 1: He's got a job to do, all right, Panther fans,
- 23:26Speaker 1: he has given you your honest opinion. He is the
- 23:29Speaker 1: senior betting analyst for Yahoo Sports. So let let me ask,
- 23:33Speaker 1: let's open it up here, what what are some of
- 23:35Speaker 1: the over underwind total numbers that as we get closer
- 23:39Speaker 1: and closer to the season and they kind of, you know,
- 23:42Speaker 1: maybe have moved a little bit. What are your favorite
- 23:44Speaker 1: couple you know over underwind total numbers right now?
- 23:49Speaker 7: Yeah, so, I mean one's moved a little bit, so
- 23:53Speaker 7: certainly you probably would have to pay a little more
- 23:55Speaker 7: juice to get it back at four and a half.
- 23:57Speaker 7: With the Arizona Cardinals four and a half, they are
- 24:00Speaker 7: down at a lot of sportsbooks to three and a half.
- 24:03Speaker 7: It's just hard to see you start to look at
- 24:06Speaker 7: the games and the schedule. They're right now projected to
- 24:09Speaker 7: be an underdog in all seventeen games. They're the only
- 24:12Speaker 7: team to be projected to be an underdog in all
- 24:14Speaker 7: those games, and a lot of those games it's at
- 24:16Speaker 7: least a touchdown or potentially double digits. Now, it's possible
- 24:21Speaker 7: that the betting market just undervalued them, But when you
- 24:24Speaker 7: start to look at just okay, in how many games
- 24:27Speaker 7: are they going to have the better quarterback? Right, whether
- 24:29Speaker 7: that's right now Jacoby Brissett starting at some point, it'll
- 24:33Speaker 7: probably be Carson Beck. It's just difficult to see a
- 24:38Speaker 7: ton of wins on that schedule. So I think, especially
- 24:41Speaker 7: at four and a half, liking that under is one
- 24:45Speaker 7: and then one that I think we're thrown off a
- 24:48Speaker 7: bit from the AFC South because of the playoffs is
- 24:53Speaker 7: the Houston Texans, and you just saw CJ. Strabb play
- 24:57Speaker 7: as poorly as kind of a quarterback. You know, I'm
- 24:59Speaker 7: of like span, even though I cover the NFL as
- 25:02Speaker 7: a you know, obviously for my job. I think if
- 25:06Speaker 7: the Texans had JJ McCarthy in that playoff game and
- 25:08Speaker 7: he just handed the ball off, they probably have a
- 25:11Speaker 7: better chance of seating the Patriots than what CJ. Stroud
- 25:15Speaker 7: put up. But that being said, that entire defense is
- 25:18Speaker 7: coming back. Tank Dell is coming back off of the
- 25:22Speaker 7: injury as well. Nico Collins was hurt, now he's back
- 25:25Speaker 7: potentially healthy. Like that team, especially with that defense, is
- 25:29Speaker 7: absolutely loaded. They're over under. I believe it's nine and
- 25:32Speaker 7: a half. That's one. I like the over. I just
- 25:36Speaker 7: think that defense is going to be able to carry them.
- 25:38Speaker 7: And it's the classic kind of CJ. Stroud. He doesn't
- 25:41Speaker 7: need to be his rookie year self, but if he
- 25:43Speaker 7: at least is average or potentially above average, it's hard
- 25:47Speaker 7: to not see that team winning double digit games in
- 25:51Speaker 7: admittedly a tough AFC, but I think they are the
- 25:54Speaker 7: best team in that division, and so if they can
- 25:58Speaker 7: rack up some potentially you know, easier wins than that
- 26:01Speaker 7: division wins some other out of division. I think that
- 26:05Speaker 7: defense is just really really good and that's a very
- 26:08Speaker 7: high floor for that team. So over nine and a
- 26:11Speaker 7: half another one for the text and is there that
- 26:13Speaker 7: I like?
- 26:14Speaker 2: Ben?
- 26:14Speaker 5: Not only are the Panthers the most bet on team
- 26:17Speaker 5: against in Week one of the NFL Slate, you got
- 26:20Speaker 5: to tweet up a week ago about how much the
- 26:22Speaker 5: public is fading UNC against TCU per bet MGM. Right now,
- 26:28Speaker 5: ninety one percent of the spread bets are on TCU
- 26:32Speaker 5: minus seven ninety nine percent of the money line is
- 26:36Speaker 5: on TCU. Does that has that gone too far against
- 26:40Speaker 5: the Heels or does that make a lot of sense
- 26:43Speaker 5: based off last year and just where the UNC program
- 26:46Speaker 5: is right now?
- 26:49Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think so obviously, right ninety nine
- 26:52Speaker 7: percent of the money that may be that somebody bet
- 26:56Speaker 7: you know, five thousand dollars or something on one side
- 26:59Speaker 7: and has come anything come back on the other. That
- 27:02Speaker 7: being said, it's hard to find a lot of takers
- 27:05Speaker 7: I think right now for UNC, just because you look
- 27:09Speaker 7: at the spread and even though it moved from six
- 27:11Speaker 7: and a half to seven for TCU, UNC was kind
- 27:14Speaker 7: of non competitive in some of those games, including against TCU,
- 27:18Speaker 7: which I believe was the opener last year as well,
- 27:21Speaker 7: And so it might not matter if you're getting seven.
- 27:24Speaker 7: It might not matter if you're getting fourteen. Right if
- 27:26Speaker 7: they don't have a defense, they don't have an offense. Now,
- 27:29Speaker 7: they did get obviously they had a year right to
- 27:31Speaker 7: recruit some of their players, get some of the guys
- 27:35Speaker 7: in there potentially that they wanted. But with the whole
- 27:38Speaker 7: situation with Michael Lombardi, it just doesn't seem like a
- 27:43Speaker 7: team you would want to be backing, especially making I
- 27:46Speaker 7: believe that game's in Dublin. The international trip like that
- 27:50Speaker 7: to me is just you have continuity on the TCU
- 27:53Speaker 7: side and you have a little bit of kind of
- 27:55Speaker 7: chaos on the UNC side. So I'm not surprised that
- 27:59Speaker 7: the pub has been has been backing that. I think
- 28:02Speaker 7: that's going to be also a very popular teaser to
- 28:05Speaker 7: just get that down to all tc just have to
- 28:07Speaker 7: win the game, get that down from seven to one,
- 28:10Speaker 7: and put that with something else for that opening Week
- 28:13Speaker 7: zero of college football. But yeah, UNC is is not
- 28:17Speaker 7: a team I think the public is going to be backing.
- 28:20Speaker 7: I believe. I have to double check, but I believe
- 28:22Speaker 7: earlier this summer I looked in their win totals four
- 28:25Speaker 7: and a half, which I think was the lowest win
- 28:27Speaker 7: total Bill Belichick has ever had as a head coach period.
- 28:33Speaker 7: Gotta be college or pro.
- 28:35Speaker 3: It has to be Ben. I'm not trying.
- 28:38Speaker 5: I'm not trying to get you mad or to yell
- 28:40Speaker 5: me because I saw one of your YouTube videos wearing
- 28:43Speaker 5: big letters that said don't bet parways on the video phone.
- 28:47Speaker 3: Yeah, I bet, I bet.
- 28:49Speaker 5: I bet a lot of parways, and I don't really
- 28:52Speaker 5: win necessarily a whole lot. What what's the best strategy
- 28:56Speaker 5: as we approach football season, whether it's Saturdays or Sundays,
- 29:00Speaker 5: what's your best strategy on betting football to at least
- 29:03Speaker 5: win some money?
- 29:06Speaker 1: Yeah?
- 29:06Speaker 7: So I think the biggest thing, number one, with betting,
- 29:09Speaker 7: you always want to go into what am I doing
- 29:12Speaker 7: this for? Why am I doing it right? And so
- 29:14Speaker 7: I think there's certain rules that give her a bit
- 29:17Speaker 7: if you're looking right, hey, this is a side hustle,
- 29:20Speaker 7: or I'm looking to make some money and maybe I
- 29:23Speaker 7: want to be a little more cautious. That's one thing.
- 29:27Speaker 7: And then there's another, which I think is a vast,
- 29:29Speaker 7: vast majority of people, which is just this is fun,
- 29:32Speaker 7: this is an entertainment cost. I'm going to throw some
- 29:34Speaker 7: dollars somewhere. I think most people going to that second bucket.
- 29:38Speaker 7: The number one thing I would say is, yes, you
- 29:41Speaker 7: should probably limit the parlays that you bet, or if
- 29:44Speaker 7: you're going to just limit the legs. Right, we've all
- 29:47Speaker 7: done it. We all go into the sportsbook app and
- 29:50Speaker 7: we start putting things together and we say it's got
- 29:53Speaker 7: to get to some predetermined odds, right, like it's got
- 29:56Speaker 7: to be plus money, it's got to be plus one
- 29:59Speaker 7: twenty five, or it's got to be plus three hundred,
- 30:02Speaker 7: or it's got to get to plus five hundred. It's like, remember,
- 30:05Speaker 7: each leg you add on is decreasing the chance significantly
- 30:09Speaker 7: of you winning. That's why you get better odds. So
- 30:12Speaker 7: I would eliminate at least one or two legs of
- 30:15Speaker 7: whatever parlay you're considering, and maybe do a two leg parlay,
- 30:20Speaker 7: maybe do a three leg parlay. In the NFL, especially,
- 30:23Speaker 7: I think teasers is a good way to go if
- 30:25Speaker 7: you can tease those favorites, you know, if it's a
- 30:29Speaker 7: seven and a half eight and a half point favorite,
- 30:30Speaker 7: tease that down under a field goal or vice versa.
- 30:34Speaker 7: If you get, you know, a two and a half
- 30:36Speaker 7: point underdog, bumps that up to eight and a half.
- 30:39Speaker 7: Those are some ways that you can have a little
- 30:43Speaker 7: better shot, especially if you want to have some of
- 30:46Speaker 7: those parlays. Ultimately, your best chance is going to be
- 30:49Speaker 7: just betting the straight best you like, right, So if
- 30:51Speaker 7: you like the Panthers week one and you like them
- 30:54Speaker 7: plus three, just bet the Panthers plus three. If it
- 30:58Speaker 7: gets that, don't put Panthers plus three plus this money
- 31:01Speaker 7: line plus Bryce Young to throw two hundred plus yards
- 31:04Speaker 7: plus Beth McMillan anytime touchdown.
- 31:06Speaker 3: Sounds like you both right.
- 31:09Speaker 5: No, teezers are greatest, especially teezers, I especially in the
- 31:12Speaker 5: NFL when the games are decided usually right near that spread.
- 31:16Speaker 1: For the most part. Yeah, I like those definitely. All right,
- 31:19Speaker 1: he is I just want some money off Ben. He
- 31:21Speaker 1: is Ben Fox here, man. He's here to help, all right.
- 31:24Speaker 1: Some Panther fans are mad at him picking the Saints
- 31:27Speaker 1: as his best bet in terms of odds in the division,
- 31:30Speaker 1: but he is here to help and hopefully some of
- 31:32Speaker 1: that stuff there will help you with your football wagering.
- 31:36Speaker 1: Follow him on x slash Twitter at b Fox fa
- 31:40Speaker 1: w k E S twenty two b Fox twenty two
- 31:44Speaker 1: and read his stuff on Yahoo. He's got a really
- 31:46Speaker 1: cool thing that you can find on Yahoo recently about
- 31:49Speaker 1: that he was kind of alluding to about the points
- 31:52Speaker 1: that the quarterbacks are worth in the spread. Very interesting
- 31:54Speaker 1: stuff there as well. We appreciate it. Ben, thanks so
- 31:58Speaker 1: much for coming on, man yeadytt fellas all right, that
- 32:03Speaker 1: is Ben Falks joining us here on the Mack and
- 32:05Speaker 1: Bone Show. I yeah, I guess I have to mention
- 32:07Speaker 1: now this will make more texters not like Ben, but
- 32:10Speaker 1: article he wrote bone he and the odds makers have
- 32:13Speaker 1: have Bryce ranked twenty fifth in terms of point spread
- 32:16Speaker 1: difference over the backup.
- 32:18Speaker 3: Do they know his backups? Can you pikett?
- 32:20Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it's like three point It's like less
- 32:23Speaker 1: than three point difference.
- 32:24Speaker 3: Was Haines King adjusts that for him? Yeah? That's true,
- 32:26Speaker 3: Haines King.
- 32:28Speaker 1: Please tell me be Bob gonna send it in and
- 32:30Speaker 1: say that Haines King is a plus seven point difference
- 32:34Speaker 1: in the spread over Bryce.
- 32:36Speaker 5: All right, we're gonna go to fiddy with an update.
- 32:39Speaker 5: Correct fit fit dadd egy.
- 32:43Speaker 3: Be a little hometown or a big old city.
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- 33:38Speaker 3: that night Bones Yankees one and you go.
- 33:42Speaker 1: And you come the Yankeeese what you say? And the
- 33:46Speaker 1: Braves step right up and beat those Mets and.
- 33:49Speaker 8: The Braves beat the mess Foard to nothing.
- 33:52Speaker 5: Oh am, I allowed to ask you or bring up
- 33:55Speaker 5: a Yankee comment here? Real, Yeah, I've been excited about him.
- 33:57Speaker 5: Lady did play that at the rookie George one bard
- 33:59Speaker 5: Man last night? No, no, I did the ball hit
- 34:02Speaker 5: off the base and then he bare handed it off
- 34:04Speaker 5: the base and in one motion through it the first
- 34:06Speaker 5: This is a new Jeter?
- 34:07Speaker 1: Man?
- 34:08Speaker 3: Is this the new Jeter? Bone? I gotta tell you
- 34:10Speaker 3: Jeters yesterday's news?
- 34:11Speaker 1: Oh man, Yeah, by the way, done formula. Do you
- 34:16Speaker 1: see a C Stacks? How did this Ben Fawkes guy
- 34:20Speaker 1: hack into Bones draftking account and see his parlay? It
- 34:24Speaker 1: was it was you definitely like, see but you're you
- 34:27Speaker 1: have the ability to hit those I am such a
- 34:29Speaker 1: bad better that if I tried to do a parlay
- 34:32Speaker 1: of like four legs or more, it would be the
- 34:34Speaker 1: stupidest thing.
- 34:35Speaker 5: And you know what was sad about his hypothetical Betho
- 34:37Speaker 5: mac He said, don't go bet Panthers plus three in Bryce,
- 34:41Speaker 5: like two hundred yards. Two hundred yards. That's not that
- 34:44Speaker 5: many yards. It's not four hundred yards. But I would
- 34:47Speaker 5: think that Bryce could get two hundred yards right right,
- 34:51Speaker 5: It wasn't that. You know, how many games would you
- 34:53Speaker 5: have won last year over two hundred?
- 34:56Speaker 1: I made bet that right now for point. But this
- 34:58Speaker 1: is a different Bryce. He's on fire, he's confident. He
- 35:03Speaker 1: drops f bob, heck yeah baby. He breaks up here
- 35:06Speaker 1: on a four wheeler. He thought about growing facial hair.
- 35:09Speaker 1: It's a different man. He thought about it. All right,
- 35:12Speaker 1: we come back.
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- 35:36Speaker 9: I get the lands fran on a non contact injury
- 35:39Speaker 9: and I never heard of that word. They said it
- 35:43Speaker 9: was ankle. It's a foot spring. Yeah, I'm like, week
- 35:46Speaker 9: won't go by a week two. It's like, nah, this
- 35:47Speaker 9: is a different than the foot spring. I don't feel
- 35:49Speaker 9: myself progressively getting better. I tell you this story because
- 35:55Speaker 9: the hardest thing for me to understand and cope with
- 36:00Speaker 9: was getting out of my own way. If I could
- 36:03Speaker 9: go back and redo things, I would have set out
- 36:06Speaker 9: a whole season because I wasn't healthy. They well, we
- 36:11Speaker 9: already had a person on the roster by the name
- 36:15Speaker 9: of Kyle Allen.
- 36:15Speaker 3: I call him Lovey Devee.
- 36:18Speaker 9: He was on the roster and he was playing damn
- 36:21Speaker 9: good football. You know, my pride was like, yo, I'm
- 36:26Speaker 9: ready to go back, but my intuition was telling me
- 36:29Speaker 9: I'm not healthy. From quarterback to quarterback, bro it's unfortunate,
- 36:34Speaker 9: but you're.
- 36:34Speaker 3: On a clock.
- 36:36Speaker 1: That's Cam Newton on fourth and one talking to Michael
- 36:39Speaker 1: Pennix about injuries and the feeling that a quarterback gets,
- 36:43Speaker 1: especially when the backup's playing well. That I got to
- 36:46Speaker 1: get back in there. That's an honest admission from camp
- 36:49Speaker 1: to be I gotta tell you, I would have never
- 36:51Speaker 1: thought bone while Kyle Allen won a couple of games
- 36:55Speaker 1: and was playing, he's playing good, He's playing all right
- 36:57Speaker 1: right love And I totally forgot that was his name
- 37:00Speaker 1: named Lovey Dovey that Cam gave him. But anyway that
- 37:03Speaker 1: I would have never thought that that was in Cam's
- 37:05Speaker 1: head and he felt like I got to get back there.
- 37:08Speaker 1: This dude's bawling like I would have never thought that
- 37:11Speaker 1: Kyle Allen would make him feel I got to get
- 37:14Speaker 1: my job back, but apparently it did according to Cam.
- 37:18Speaker 1: And that's an interesting admision. And that would have not
- 37:20Speaker 1: helped the shoulder situation, no, but you know, might have
- 37:24Speaker 1: been a smart move foot wise, because he was he
- 37:26Speaker 1: got in their bone and he was not the shoulder
- 37:29Speaker 1: and the foot or problems for him.
- 37:31Speaker 5: I think that's a cool experience for Michael Pennix to
- 37:33Speaker 5: be able to talk to a guy in Cam that's
- 37:36Speaker 5: his own age. How old's Pennix? He's gosh, he's getting old.
- 37:43Speaker 5: He remember he was old in college. Remember Michael Pennix
- 37:46Speaker 5: has got to be like twenty seven now, right, twenty six,
- 37:50Speaker 5: twenty six, But he's not playing much football though for
- 37:52Speaker 5: twenty six year old.
- 37:53Speaker 1: I'm not in the NFL, and I'm not sure he's
- 37:54Speaker 1: going to play much as a twenty six year old.
- 37:57Speaker 1: But then again, to Ben Falk's point, it's not like
- 37:59Speaker 1: the starter is amazing in TUA and you don't know
- 38:02Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy.
- 38:04Speaker 3: We have an answer to your question.
- 38:05Speaker 1: Bone, I guess I asked the question about what you
- 38:08Speaker 1: were saying about Bryce plus two hundred yards if you bet. Now, Bryce,
- 38:13Speaker 1: we have a text named Bryce sucks and it's just
- 38:15Speaker 1: I mean, he's like Bebop's son or something. No, it
- 38:17Speaker 1: what really could be And he says Bryce's numbers aren't
- 38:20Speaker 1: two hundred, it's like one hundred and fifty or whatever. If
- 38:23Speaker 1: you if the line was plus two hundred and you
- 38:26Speaker 1: bet over every game the eighteen games last year, the
- 38:30Speaker 1: seventeen regular season, in the playoff game, you would have
- 38:33Speaker 1: cashed five times. Bryce only threw for two hundred yards
- 38:37Speaker 1: or more five times last season.
- 38:40Speaker 3: Also, he got up that number.
- 38:42Speaker 1: Man, it's got to be the only quarterback this, this
- 38:44Speaker 1: can't happen very often. He had a four hundred yard
- 38:47Speaker 1: game right against Atlanta four forty eight and a fifty
- 38:50Speaker 1: four yard game.
- 38:50Speaker 2: Yep.
- 38:52Speaker 5: Now another name got to get more consistent. What did
- 38:54Speaker 5: you say the first Saints game was one hundred and
- 38:56Speaker 5: twenty four yards. Yeah, yeah, So the two games I
- 38:58Speaker 5: was at, he threw for one hundred and twenty four
- 39:00Speaker 5: and fifty four yards.
- 39:01Speaker 1: Last year, he averaged like eighty nine yards a game.
- 39:04Speaker 1: When Bone was in attendance. Y'all, everybody over to the stadium security.
- 39:09Speaker 1: Y'all put up a picture of Bone so that y'all
- 39:11Speaker 1: don't let him in for Eddie Pather games this year.
- 39:13Speaker 5: Here, right, here's the issue. I will be at the
- 39:16Speaker 5: Denver game, and how is their defense going to be?
- 39:19Speaker 1: Yeah, their defense might not be Seattle's from last year,
- 39:21Speaker 1: but it ain't far off.
- 39:23Speaker 5: Oh, go ahead, So this is the new Bryce Baby,
- 39:26Speaker 5: new Bone. Have a waltz this year?
- 39:28Speaker 7: Have I?
- 39:32Speaker 1: John t says that's not all on Bryce. No, it's
- 39:34Speaker 1: certainly not. I mean it's it's you know, for a
- 39:36Speaker 1: while there Coker was hurt, it was really Teamack or Bust.
- 39:41Speaker 1: I think that's part of them. They ran the ball
- 39:43Speaker 1: so much there for a while with Rico that they
- 39:46Speaker 1: really limited Bryce passing. I would still argue the play
- 39:49Speaker 1: calling Bone I think was too safe sometimes and I
- 39:53Speaker 1: think that limits Bryce passing. So I would expect the
- 39:56Speaker 1: yardage numbers to go up this year, but they do
- 39:58Speaker 1: want to win. I do feel like with running game
- 40:01Speaker 1: and defense first, I think we're gonna believe more of
- 40:03Speaker 1: a Russell Wilson this year out of Bryce.
- 40:06Speaker 3: I hope.
- 40:06Speaker 5: So I think bevill I think that's why Bevill was
- 40:08Speaker 5: brought in here to help with Zick in the play calling.
- 40:12Speaker 5: But I think they're trying to unlock the next level
- 40:14Speaker 5: of Bryce his downfield path. Not that he doesn't do
- 40:17Speaker 5: the downfield ball well, but I think they want to
- 40:19Speaker 5: unlock the aggressiveness in that deed ball.
- 40:21Speaker 3: No doubt. I hope so.
- 40:22Speaker 1: And that Joe person said it a couple of weeks
- 40:24Speaker 1: ago or last week maybe where he said he's hearing
- 40:28Speaker 1: from people in the building that like, there's people in
- 40:30Speaker 1: the building that kind of thought it was too safe
- 40:32Speaker 1: last year, and he kind of intimated that it would
- 40:35Speaker 1: be different with Izick, you know, And I know Canalis
- 40:37Speaker 1: is still looking over his shoulder, but that's kind of
- 40:40Speaker 1: encouraging to hear as well.
- 40:41Speaker 3: Let it rip.
- 40:42Speaker 1: Even there might be some mistakes downfield because of it,
- 40:44Speaker 1: but let it rip. Man, the guy was efficient as
- 40:47Speaker 1: heck throwing the ball downfield.
- 40:48Speaker 5: There's a moment now trying to keep me out of
- 40:50Speaker 5: the Denver game. I'm worried about this bone. I'm very
- 40:54Speaker 5: worried about it. What if they put Icky out there
- 40:56Speaker 5: in front, just a block, mean, just to work on
- 40:58Speaker 5: his working his game.
- 41:00Speaker 1: What if they put stone foresythe out front. I'll go
- 41:03Speaker 1: right around here. I'll go set you up for the
- 41:08Speaker 1: all right practice starting at the top of the hour
- 41:10Speaker 1: for the Panthers, they do practice today Tomorrow Fridays a
- 41:13Speaker 1: travel day, and it sounds like the word coming out
- 41:15Speaker 1: of Buffalo is they'll play starters. So it looks like
- 41:17Speaker 1: Saturday at one in Buffalo, starters versus starters. Uh Fidny
- 41:21Speaker 1: and I go to head on over to check out
- 41:23Speaker 1: a little practice here. In a few minutes. Bone has
- 41:25Speaker 1: to go sweat at the dog park. We'll both be
- 41:30Speaker 1: sweat right now. Right now, we're in two days, two
- 41:33Speaker 1: trips to the dog park every day, every day.
- 41:35Speaker 3: You got to know to tire them out, though.
- 41:36Speaker 1: And I've warned that if I drive him there to
- 41:38Speaker 1: the dog park, I get more out of them, Okay,
- 41:41Speaker 1: And if he walks there, he's dead tired.
- 41:43Speaker 3: Pluse, not going to practice. Not a football guy. You
- 41:48Speaker 3: try to trigger Bone again.
- 41:49Speaker 8: Hey, weeks into the invitation, he's got puppies, pupies, time out,
- 41:55Speaker 8: time out.
- 41:57Speaker 3: You you extended an invitation. We ask you like you,
- 42:01Speaker 3: like you run the practice. Who says I'm not you?
- 42:05Speaker 7: You?
- 42:06Speaker 3: Maybe Dave Canalis you you have you you you you
- 42:10Speaker 3: you you have these days? You know what you know?
- 42:13Speaker 5: What can I tell you why you're sad today? While
- 42:15Speaker 5: you're mad today because we listened to Willy just scold
- 42:18Speaker 5: you off the air.
- 42:19Speaker 3: And now you're mad at oh?
- 42:21Speaker 1: Well, first off, just I mean he's you're just yelling
- 42:25Speaker 1: at Fitty right in your place. You get put down
- 42:28Speaker 1: by Willie, then you watch out.
- 42:30Speaker 3: Fty said, yes, mister Palacik, what you said. Is that
- 42:33Speaker 3: what I thought I heard you say that?
- 42:35Speaker 8: No, I actually said, he's telling a Mickey Mouse high
- 42:38Speaker 8: pitch and effort.
- 42:39Speaker 1: You said, yes, your honor. At one point you were
- 42:42Speaker 1: so you were so he did he slammed that phone down.
- 42:44Speaker 1: By the way, he slammed that phone down after talking
- 42:47Speaker 1: to Willy. Oh is there another scrap of root between
- 42:50Speaker 1: the two body?
- 42:51Speaker 3: Right before?
- 42:53Speaker 8: I'm just saying, man, I thought it'd been nice to
- 42:54Speaker 8: go out to practice.
- 42:55Speaker 3: Me Mac and Bone. We have a great you know,
- 42:57Speaker 3: we bond on the drive to the stadium.
- 42:59Speaker 1: But rather go home, Lea leave Bone alone. I'll be
- 43:03Speaker 1: now I'm even saying no. I know this may shock you,
- 43:06Speaker 1: but there's other stuff in life.
- 43:07Speaker 2: That we have to do.
- 43:08Speaker 1: Sometimes exactly there you go responsibilities. All right, our only
- 43:13Speaker 1: task is not mowing mama's yard.
- 43:15Speaker 3: Let's day, I.
- 43:16Speaker 8: Got internet and being coming over at three o'clock today,
- 43:18Speaker 8: but I'm going to practice.
- 43:19Speaker 1: Oh all right, let me uh. Let's let's leave Bone alone.
- 43:22Speaker 1: All right, let's read your text. Here's one right here.
- 43:27Speaker 1: I love this time of year, when now working out,
- 43:29Speaker 1: when when South Carolina has so much hype only to suck.
- 43:34Speaker 1: All right, but leave Bone alone, everybody?
- 43:36Speaker 2: All right?
- 43:36Speaker 3: Who's Who's that?
- 43:37Speaker 2: A guy fan?
- 43:39Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 43:39Speaker 1: I don't know who I'm going. If it's in this area,
- 43:42Speaker 1: your team's probably not very good either. Here's some support
- 43:44Speaker 1: though for Bone. Go ahead, f Willy f Willie Macinfetti.
- 43:49Speaker 1: The rest of us, uh and the rest of you
- 43:51Speaker 1: who are slandering the sloppy Joe. I stand with Bone.
- 43:54Speaker 1: Who are trying to play pile, don't play me next.
- 43:59Speaker 1: Jo's of a can around the air. Salesman, Now this
- 44:02Speaker 1: sounds good. Salesman makes a buffalo chicken. Sloppy Joe says
- 44:07Speaker 1: it slaps as the utes would say. We got another guy.
- 44:13Speaker 1: Another guy said, the pimento cheese with a sloppy Joe
- 44:17Speaker 1: ups the game. This dude makes white sloppy Joe. I'm sorry,
- 44:24Speaker 1: I don't think he's bringing race into this.
- 44:26Speaker 3: What does that mean?
- 44:27Speaker 1: He uses cream A mushroom is what he uses with it,
- 44:30Speaker 1: ads cheese, and U says it's great, says it's a
- 44:33Speaker 1: game changer. So some people are trying to tell us
- 44:36Speaker 1: alternative sloppy Joe ways to do it. Another texter says
- 44:41Speaker 1: the worst use of ground beef is not a sloppy Joe,
- 44:43Speaker 1: it's hamburger. Helper very misnamed. The texter says, I don't
- 44:49Speaker 1: mind hamburger, right, you.
- 44:53Speaker 3: Do love, We'll give beef strogan off. Interesting.
- 44:58Speaker 5: That's all he wanted to say on the radio was
- 44:59Speaker 5: that he's been waiting for that moment his entire one.
- 45:04Speaker 5: How about this one, tech, know your games.
- 45:06Speaker 1: This textter says, Fitty and I are like Bo Thompson
- 45:08Speaker 1: the palette of a toddler dinosaur shaped chicken nuggets with
- 45:12Speaker 1: ranch dressing. How did Bo Thompson from WBT down the
- 45:15Speaker 1: Hall get astray? That dude's a legend. If if I
- 45:18Speaker 1: have half the career he has, I'll be proud. Is
- 45:20Speaker 1: he a simple eater like we are? I don't know,
- 45:23Speaker 1: I've not heard that before. I just don't have the
- 45:26Speaker 1: refined palate that the bone man has. But yeah, usually
- 45:29Speaker 1: you're the one that gets accused of having the children's palate.
- 45:31Speaker 3: Had a grilled cheese last night? I loved it.
- 45:33Speaker 1: How about this sloppy Joe on top of tater tots
- 45:36Speaker 1: with cheese dream?
- 45:38Speaker 3: Are you down for that? Bony a dream?
- 45:43Speaker 1: Somebody said, texted in said, there's a braised beef sloppy
- 45:47Speaker 1: Joe at ten point fifty eight Thomas Davis's sports bar.
- 45:50Speaker 1: I see your TD. So there you go, t TD
- 45:53Speaker 1: sloppy Joe guy. I got a football guy and sloppy Joe.
- 45:57Speaker 1: You guys got to go to practice. I gotta go
- 45:59Speaker 1: get some fish sticks. Oh man, all right, it's not
- 46:02Speaker 1: a sloppy Joe Wednesday, Bone the way you were defending me.
- 46:04Speaker 1: It's gonna belopy Saturday coming up.
- 46:06Speaker 3: Okay, okay, someone's having one of those. We're oh my lord,
- 46:11Speaker 3: we gotta go immediately.
- 46:12Speaker 1: We gotta get out of here, baby before anything real
- 46:14Speaker 1: damaging happens. Uh. Out of a courtesy of good work
- 46:18Speaker 1: out of Fiddy, I guess good work out of bone.
- 46:20Speaker 3: Thanks to all of you for getting out with us.
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