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Dinesh D'Souza | The Stones Cry Out: Proof the Bible Was Right All Along · Unshaken & Unafraid with Joe Pags

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  Speaker 1: What happens when experts accidentally disprove their own theories? Out
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  Speaker 1: of hundreds of major archaeological digs in Israel, not one
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  Speaker 1: single discovery refutes the biblical text. In fact, Dinesh D'Souza
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  Speaker 1: joins me today with the absolute proof that shatters the
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  Speaker 1: imposter narrative once and for all. This is what's going on,
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  Speaker 1: even from some people that we used to think were
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  Speaker 1: reliably on our side politically. They are attacking Israel nonstop,
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  Speaker 1: and they want us to believe that the Jews that
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  Speaker 1: are there now are not the Jews that were there then,
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  Speaker 1: and in fact, the Jews didn't own it then. Dinesh,
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  Speaker 1: please clear this up for my audience, because enough is enough.
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  Speaker 2: Well, if you pursue this strange line of thought, it
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  Speaker 2: would imply that there were Jews in Israel. They got
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  Speaker 2: scattered to the ends of the earth. They are somehow
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  Speaker 2: still scattered somewhere. and some fake Jews sneaked back into Israel,
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  Speaker 2: purporting to be the descendants of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.
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  Speaker 2: And so we have imposter Jews in Israel and real
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  Speaker 2: Jews elsewhere, supposedly in some kind of hiding.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the reason this is.
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  Speaker 2: So bizarre is because of all tribal communities, going back
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  Speaker 2: to ancient times, the Jews have been the most intact
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  Speaker 2: of pretty much.
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  Speaker 3: Any group you can think of, right? Even if you..
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  Speaker 2: Look through the Middle Ages. You had Jewish communities in Europe.
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  Speaker 2: They were very tight-knit. They were often ostracized from mainstream society.
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  Speaker 2: If you look at, for example, Shakespeare's Merchant of Venice,
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  Speaker 2: the Jews in Venice are living in a Jewish enclave.
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  Speaker 2: And by the way, they maintain their tribal identity, but
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  Speaker 2: they also maintain their very conservative and ancient habits. I
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  Speaker 2: recently debated against Andrew Wilson and he was trying to
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  Speaker 2: claim that, you know, the Jewish heresy is the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of modern debauchery. This is another one of their themes.
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  Speaker 2: And I was like, no, the Jews have been very
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  Speaker 2: conservative through history. It's only in the aftermath of the Enlightenment.
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  Speaker 2: and the Romantic movement of the 19th century, a kind
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  Speaker 2: of secular atheism came into the West. People began to
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  Speaker 2: move away from Judaism and Christianity, and much of what
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  Speaker 2: we call the cultural breakdown, moral depravity, all of that
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  Speaker 2: comes out of secularization, which has contaminated not only Jewish
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  Speaker 2: but also Christian communities. So there are no imposter Jews. Sure,
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  Speaker 2: Jews did some intermarriage. Sure, some people converted in. Some Jews,
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  Speaker 2: of course, in Europe became Christians. This is all quite
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  Speaker 2: normal for any community, but the Jews are just as
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  Speaker 2: closely descended from their ancestors as any other group. The
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  Speaker 2: Indians are descended from my ancestors, or the Irish are
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  Speaker 2: descended from their ancestors. So, this is a completely bogus claim. Now,
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  Speaker 2: where archaeology comes in is it irrefutably demonstrates through all
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  Speaker 2: the stuff that comes out of the ground, right? Archaeology
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  Speaker 2: pulls out these material objects, and they can be an arrowhead,
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  Speaker 2: a skeleton, a stone inscription, a clay seal, ostraca, which
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  Speaker 2: means writings on pottery. All this stuff, some of it
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  Speaker 2: dating 1,000, 2,000, which would be the time of Jesus, 3,000,
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  Speaker 2: which would be the time of... Solomon and David, or
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  Speaker 2: 4,000 years ago, which is the time of the patriarchs.
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  Speaker 2: That's the time of Abraham. He lived about 2,000 BC.
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  Speaker 1: I want to get into the archaeology in depth a
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  Speaker 1: little bit more in a second, but I want to
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  Speaker 1: go back to something you said a minute ago. By
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  Speaker 1: the way, Dinesh D'Souza, go to DineshD'Souza.com, check out all
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  Speaker 1: of his films, get his books. This book will be
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  Speaker 1: out October 13th. You can pre-order it now. It's called
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  Speaker 1: The Stones Cry Out. Go and check it out. What's
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  Speaker 1: interesting is, okay, so let's say that we accept the
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  Speaker 1: hypothesis that the real Jews are hiding everywhere. And the
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  Speaker 1: fake Jews are in there now. So with those who
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  Speaker 1: are pro-Iran or pro-Gaza or pro-fill-in-the-blank Islamicism around the globe,
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  Speaker 1: if they all say that to you and we say, okay,
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  Speaker 1: let's get rid of the fake Jews, let's round up
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  Speaker 1: all the real Jews and put them in there, I'm
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  Speaker 1: guessing they wouldn't be okay with that. So it's a
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  Speaker 1: bogus claim to begin with, right?
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  Speaker 2: Not only is it bogus for that reason, which is
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  Speaker 2: an excellent reason, I'll give you another reason it's bogus.
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  Speaker 2: The same people who say that then say the Jews...
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  Speaker 2: now in Israel, bear the responsibility for killing Christ.
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  Speaker 3: And my point is, hold on, hold on.
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  Speaker 2: You just told me that they weren't the real Jews,
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  Speaker 2: they're not the real descendants of Abraham, and yet you
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  Speaker 2: want to now put the blame on them for killing Christ.
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  Speaker 2: And my point, of course, is that the Jews, you know,
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  Speaker 2: even if you go back to ancient times, the Jews
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  Speaker 2: no more killed Christ than you could say the Americans
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  Speaker 2: killed Lincoln or like The Indians killed Gandhi.
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  Speaker 3: First of all, Gandhi was an Indian.
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  Speaker 2: Second of all, there's a lot of factional infighting among
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  Speaker 2: the Indians.
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  Speaker 3: One group killed Gandhi. Gandhi had a lot of followers.
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  Speaker 3: And the same could be said of Jesus.
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  Speaker 1: It seems to be that they're going to go for
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  Speaker 1: the convenient negative. If it's conveniently negative about the Jews,
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  Speaker 1: we're going to hang it on whatever Jews we want
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  Speaker 1: to hang it on. And that's every Jew. But if
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  Speaker 1: you're talking about the ones that are there now, these
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  Speaker 1: are from Eastern Europe. They're all Polish or something. It's
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  Speaker 1: all so stupid. And the real Jews are in hiding
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  Speaker 1: who never can really get a place because if the
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  Speaker 1: current Jews, which are the same Jews, we know that,
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  Speaker 1: if they gave up Israel proper the way it is now,
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  Speaker 1: that little sliver of land, they would never get it back.
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  Speaker 1: It would be gone, just like the 22 nations around it.
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  Speaker 1: They used to be predominantly Christian as well. You don't
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  Speaker 1: find many Christians or Jews in those nations now. So
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  Speaker 1: their argument from its start is completely dead wrong. So
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  Speaker 1: let me ask you something else. psychologically or maybe through
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  Speaker 1: social sciences why then does gen z or gen alpha
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  Speaker 1: buy this garbage that these are the bad guys no
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  Speaker 1: matter if there's a j under their name for jew
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  Speaker 1: they're the bad guys period end of story how are
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  Speaker 1: they able to sell this nonsense to an entire generation
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  Speaker 1: or two.
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  Speaker 2: I think to be honest it's the double aftermath of
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  Speaker 2: covid uh first of all covid is you know i'm
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  Speaker 2: COVID produced a lot of retardation, right? Because a whole
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  Speaker 2: generation lost about three solid years of normal cognitive development.
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  Speaker 2: So I find a lot of young people have been
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  Speaker 2: really affected by this. Their social skills have been affected
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  Speaker 2: and they are cognitively far behind where we were at
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  Speaker 2: the same age. But the second thing I think is that,
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  Speaker 2: and this is one of the things that came out
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  Speaker 2: of this whole era of the last 10 years is
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  Speaker 2: a lot of conspiracies turned out to be true, right?
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  Speaker 2: And a lot of trust that people had, me included,
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  Speaker 2: in institutions like the FBI, the NIH, the CDC.
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  Speaker 3: Proved to be wrongly placed.
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  Speaker 1: Yes.
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  Speaker 2: So what happened is people became susceptible to conspiracy-mindedness. And
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  Speaker 2: so along come the Pied Pipers that you're talking about,
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  Speaker 2: and they go, listen, there are all these conspiracies, and
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  Speaker 2: they're all true, but there is one master conspiracy. There's
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  Speaker 2: a puppeteer of the puppeteers, and that's Israel. That's like Netanyahu.
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  Speaker 2: That's like the AIPAC. They are the master conspiracists. And
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  Speaker 2: so I think what's happened is that people's critical skills
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  Speaker 2: of basically saying, well, you know, this doesn't make any sense,
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  Speaker 2: which if they had tried to push this like in 2006,
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  Speaker 2: it would never have flown. But they can push it
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  Speaker 2: now because the sort of the soil has been prepared
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  Speaker 2: for this kind of conspiracy mindedness.
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  Speaker 1: It's the next Asus, a great filmmaker. Go get the
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  Speaker 1: new book, pre-order it. It's called The Stones Cry Out,
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  Speaker 1: Biblical Archaeology Prophecy in the Last Days. It's out in October,
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  Speaker 1: but you can go in there. Pre-order it now. What
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  Speaker 1: I love about what you do and what Debbie does
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  Speaker 1: is you guys will jump on a plane and go there.
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  Speaker 1: Instead of just saying, let me research this in our
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  Speaker 1: home and wherever it happens to be, or let me
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  Speaker 1: go to the local library, or let me go to
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  Speaker 1: Google or chat GBT, you get on a plane and
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  Speaker 1: you go there. And you've gone to these sites in
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  Speaker 1: Israel and the surrounding areas. What are you finding there?
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  Speaker 1: Because the archaeologists want, I think they want to keep
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  Speaker 1: it in their own tent and say, here's what we found.
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  Speaker 1: The Jews weren't here. But you go there and you
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  Speaker 1: actually say the stones are literally crying out Here's what
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  Speaker 1: really happened. So, A, I love that you jump on
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  Speaker 1: a plane and go do that and then bring it
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  Speaker 1: to us. And B, what were you able to find
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  Speaker 1: out that we, as a whole of the public, are
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  Speaker 1: not being told?
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  Speaker 2: Well, the background of all this, and I was exposed
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  Speaker 2: to this in college at Dartmouth a generation ago, is
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  Speaker 2: a whole school of skepticism that developed. It starts in
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  Speaker 2: the Enlightenment, but it really gathers force starting in the
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  Speaker 2: 19th century and then on through the 20th century. And
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  Speaker 2: it's sort of armchair biblical criticism. Basically, you have some
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  Speaker 2: professor at Oxford or Tübingen, and he's sitting in a
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  Speaker 2: big armchair, and he goes, you know, from my point
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  Speaker 2: of view, sitting in this armchair, it doesn't look to
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  Speaker 2: me like David could really have defeated Goliath, or Samson
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  Speaker 2: could have pulled down the temple, or this could have happened,
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  Speaker 2: or that could have happened. So they read the Bible,
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  Speaker 2: and they go, this doesn't sound plausible to me.
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  Speaker 3: Now, the power of archaeology..
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  Speaker 2: And I discovered this for the first time when I
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  Speaker 2: went to Israel the end of 2022, it plunged me
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  Speaker 2: into a three-year study of archaeology. I've now been back
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  Speaker 2: four times, and I've been to a lot of these sites,
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  Speaker 2: and I've done filming at a lot of these sites,
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  Speaker 2: is the beauty of archaeology is archaeology basically goes, all right, well,
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  Speaker 2: let's check by looking inside the ground.
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  Speaker 3: So let me take a single.
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  Speaker 2: Example that you'll find really fascinating. So the This is
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  Speaker 2: about 1500 BC, so we're talking a long time ago, right?
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  Speaker 2: 3500 years, about 1500 BC, this is about the time
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  Speaker 2: of Moses and Joshua and the Israelites are crossing over
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  Speaker 2: into the Promised Land. In order to do that, coming
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  Speaker 2: from Egypt, they have to go across Jordan, which was
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  Speaker 2: then called Moabite territory, the territory of the Moabites. And
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  Speaker 2: the king of Moab basically finds, according to the Bible,
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  Speaker 2: this is in the Bible, he finds a fortune teller.
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  Speaker 2: named Balaam, son of Beor. And the king tells this guy,
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  Speaker 2: you need to curse the Israelites. So they get plagues,
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  Speaker 2: they get sick, they can't cross over our land.
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  Speaker 3: And so this.
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  Speaker 2: Balaam guy is like, he's up for it. He's ready
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  Speaker 2: to curse the Israelites. But the Bible says that God intervened,
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  Speaker 2: prevented him from doing that. And the Israelites were able
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  Speaker 2: to cross. Now, in the Bible story, this Balaam fellow
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  Speaker 2: has a donkey. And apparently at one point he talks
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  Speaker 2: to the donkey and the donkey replies to him. So
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  Speaker 2: you can imagine skeptics like have a field day.
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  Speaker 3: They're like, this is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 2: So this is obviously some kind of fable that made
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  Speaker 2: its way into the Bible, except you fast forward like
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  Speaker 2: 2,500 years. And a few decades ago, they're digging in
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  Speaker 2: Jordan and and they find an ancient plaster inscription on
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  Speaker 2: the side of a building. And it says the following,
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  Speaker 2: the warnings and sayings of Balaam, son of Beor. So
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  Speaker 2: first of all, it's the same name, Balaam. He has
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  Speaker 2: the same dad, Beor. It's found in Jordan, which is
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  Speaker 2: Moabite country. And it is the same profession. He's a
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  Speaker 2: fortune teller because it says the warnings and sayings of Balaam,
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  Speaker 2: son of Beor. So suddenly this dude who makes a
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  Speaker 2: cameo appearance in the Bible jumps into the pages of
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  Speaker 2: history like via the pathway of archaeology.
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  Speaker 3: He was obviously a real guy.
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  Speaker 2: And it's corroborated now by this inscription utterly outside the Bible.
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  Speaker 2: And there are just dozens and dozens of these examples.
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  Speaker 3: So to me..
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  Speaker 2: It's not just a matter of confirming like King David or.
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  Speaker 3: The crucifixion of Jesus.
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  Speaker 2: There's fascinating archaeology about all these great events in the Bible,
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  Speaker 2: and I discuss all that, but sometimes it's really small things,
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  Speaker 2: small guys who make, they're like biblical extras, and yet
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  Speaker 2: they've been now corroborated and confirmed. by various inscriptions, or
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  Speaker 2: in some cases, a clay seal. Those seals were used
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  Speaker 2: to seal correspondence, and the correspondence is gone, but the
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  Speaker 2: seal remains. And it has, again, an obscure name. The
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  Speaker 2: archaeologist who finds it doesn't even know who it is.
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  Speaker 2: And then someone tells him, hey, wait a minute, that
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  Speaker 2: guy's in the book of Jeremiah.
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  Speaker 3: Whoa, look back in the Bible. There he is. Wow,
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  Speaker 3: that was a real guy too.
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  Speaker 1: you're going to have to give me a recording of
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  Speaker 1: the donkey speaking for me to believe this. That's what
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  Speaker 1: they would say, I think, the intellectuals. It's Dinesh D'Souza.
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  Speaker 1: Go to DineshD'Souza.com. The book is called The Stone's Cry
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  Speaker 1: of Biblical Archaeology, Prophecy in the Last Days. Why does
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  Speaker 1: the archaeological establishment not want to say it can coincide
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  Speaker 1: or coexist with biblical accuracy and truth? I think that
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  Speaker 1: they can coexist. I'll give you an example. I believe
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  Speaker 1: in intelligent design. That doesn't mean that we didn't evolve
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  Speaker 1: in some way. Now, I know that we didn't come
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  Speaker 1: from an amoeba. We didn't come from monkeys or apes.
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  Speaker 1: I believe Adam was Adam, Eve was Eve, but I
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  Speaker 1: think that we can evolve, and I think that both
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  Speaker 1: can coexist. Why are scientists so not want to be
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  Speaker 1: able to say the Bible had it right and we
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  Speaker 1: have it right?
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  Speaker 3: Two things are going on.
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  Speaker 2: One is that the archaeologists are very insistent that they
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  Speaker 2: are a secular discipline. They don't want to be in
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  Speaker 2: the business of like proving the Bible. And so they
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  Speaker 2: downplay the Bible, even if they are looking at things
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  Speaker 2: that have obvious biblical significance.
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  Speaker 3: You can read an.
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  Speaker 2: Archaeological study and it pretends that there's no biblical resonance here,
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  Speaker 2: even though there clearly is. I think a second factor
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  Speaker 2: is that Skepticism has always wanted to have reason on
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  Speaker 2: its own side, and so it wants to.
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  Speaker 3: Use reason against revelation.
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  Speaker 2: When archaeology first started in the 19th century, the skeptics
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  Speaker 2: were like, hey, this is great. We're going to be
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  Speaker 2: using this to refute everything in the Bible. We're going
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  Speaker 2: to show it's a bunch of legend and pious stories
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  Speaker 2: and made-up stuff. And unfortunately for them, the archaeological record.
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  Speaker 3: Is completely the other way. Think about this, Joe.
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  Speaker 2: Out of a couple of hundred important archaeological findings in
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  Speaker 2: my book, I asked myself, can I find a single,
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  Speaker 2: even one, important archaeological finding that contradicts the Bible?
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  Speaker 3: And the answer is, it does not exist. There are zero.
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  Speaker 2: So, 200 years later, just about, the skeptics are essentially
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  Speaker 2: without a weapon here because, true, there's a lot of
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  Speaker 2: things in the Bible that have not been found. Nobody's
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  Speaker 2: found Noah's Ark for sure. Nobody's found the Ark of
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  Speaker 2: the Covenant. But there are so many things that have
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  Speaker 2: been found. And like I say, there's not a single important,
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  Speaker 2: there's some arguments about dates, you know, was Sodom and
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  Speaker 2: Gomorrah burned in 2100 BC or 1900 BC? So that
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  Speaker 2: kind of argument continues. And in some times there are
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  Speaker 2: disputed locations. But the bottom line of it is, show
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  Speaker 2: me a single archaeological finding where the Bible says X
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  Speaker 2: and the archaeology says not X or says something completely different.
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  Speaker 3: And that simply does not occur.
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  Speaker 1: Well, do you think scientists want to be the deity
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  Speaker 1: that they want to be the higher power and the
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  Speaker 1: be all end all? Because again, I can give you
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  Speaker 1: another example. The big bang theory might've happened. God might've
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  Speaker 1: made it happen. So, I mean, why can't they coexist?
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  Speaker 1: Why not? It's almost like when the CIA, FBI, and
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  Speaker 1: other alphabet agencies hide something from the public. And I'm saying,
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  Speaker 1: tell the public we're smart enough to accept it, get it,
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  Speaker 1: understand it, and make it work in our brains. Why
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  Speaker 1: can't science say, listen, I'm not being religious about this,
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  Speaker 1: but Yeah, we don't know what triggered the Big Bang.
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  Speaker 1: It could have been something we don't know about yet.
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  Speaker 1: Or yes, the Jews were here 4,000 years ago. We've
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: got verifiable proof. Not necessarily because God wanted to protect Israel,
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: but they were here. Why can't they live together? Do
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: they want to be the deity?
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: No, I don't think that's really it.
• 17:02
  Speaker 2: A decade or so ago, I did a number of
• 17:04
  Speaker 2: debates with leading atheists, and we focused on issues like this,
• 17:07
  Speaker 2: the compatibility, they would argue the incompatibility between, say, the
• 17:11
  Speaker 2: Big Bang and the idea of the universe having a beginning,
• 17:13
  Speaker 2: which is the very first line of the Bible. But
• 17:16
  Speaker 2: here's why I think this archaeology stuff is more unsettling
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: to the skeptics, and it's this. The Bible gives this
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: very detailed, elaborate account of things.
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: And there's theology in it. There's miracles in it.
• 17:29
  Speaker 2: And then there's just a lot of detail, a lot
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: of historical detail. For example, you know, when Luke is
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: talking about in the book of Acts, how the early
• 17:37
  Speaker 2: Christian movement spread in Greece and also what is in
• 17:40
  Speaker 2: now modern Turkey, he gives you an unbelievable amount of specificity.
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: He goes, if you go to this port, the winds
• 17:47
  Speaker 2: are very strong. You have to take refuge over here.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: The people on this island, the leaders are called polytarchs.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: You know, he gives you all this stuff right now.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: What's happened is that the scholars have gone and checked
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: and they've discovered that this Luke fellow is unbelievably reliable.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: And if you find something and you go, it's not true,
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: it turns out that in the first century AD, it
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: was true, even if it's not true today.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: So Luke is like confirmed again and again and again.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: So here's the point that if the Bible is that
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: accurate in terms of history, that actually makes the whole
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: of it much more believable, right? It's kind of like
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: if you're on a jury and the suspect is telling
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: you what he did for the past 30 days. Now,
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: you can't verify all of it and some of it
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: is pretty far out. But he tells you, on this day,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: I went to Chick-fil-A and he has a receipt. And
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: on this day, I crossed over from one state to
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: another and you can see him on the surveillance camera.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: You're going to go, wow, in the 17 cases where
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: I'm able to check, this guy is truthful all along
• 18:45
  Speaker 2: and therefore I'm more likely to believe his overall narrative
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: because he's proven to be a truth-telling guy.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: It's Dinesh D'Souza. Go to DineshD'Souza.com. Go and pre-order this
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: book right now. The Stones Cry Out, Biblical Archaeology Prophecy
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: in the Last Days. It's out in full on October 13th,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: but you can go pre-order it now, which I urge
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: you to go and do. Let me ask you something philosophical,
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: and maybe it'll cause some opinion, or maybe you can
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: back this up with fact. Why does God care so
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: much about Israel? It's a little tiny sliver of land.
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: Why is that so important? Over the millennia, we're talking
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: about God always saying, looking out for these people, keep
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: this land sacred. This is the promised land of the
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: people that I chose to be there. Why does he
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: care so much about that? I think that's probably what's
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: breaking the minds of the younger generations because they're like,
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: it's just a little sliver of land. What do you
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: care if it's river to the sea? Just leave it alone.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Why does he care? Do we know?
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Well, the true answer is that there is no answer
• 19:39
  Speaker 2: to this question.
• 19:40
  Speaker 3: And I'll tell you why.
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: There's no answer because at some level, God made a
• 19:44
  Speaker 2: decision and he could have decided otherwise, right? let me
• 19:48
  Speaker 2: so God could have decided I'm a universal God and
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: And so I'm going to stamp my name on the
• 19:54
  Speaker 2: moon or I'm going to put the 10 commandments in
• 19:57
  Speaker 2: the sky.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: Everybody can see them. Everybody can read them.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: But for whatever reason, we don't know the reason, God decides,
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: you know, I've got a story to tell, but I'm
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: going to do it in a very strange way through
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: a particular people at a particular time in a particular place.
• 20:15
  Speaker 2: And notice how obsessed the Bible is with like genealogies.
• 20:18
  Speaker 2: A begat B who begat C who begat D. And
• 20:21
  Speaker 2: Jesus came from the line of David. So the Bible
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: is telling us that for reasons known only to God,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: he chose to reveal himself in history in this strange land,
• 20:34
  Speaker 2: then called Canaan, now Israel. and he did it between
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: the dates of about 2000 BC and about 50 AD. That's,
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: by the way, the scope of the Bible, and there's
• 20:46
  Speaker 2: a 400-year gap in between, between the Old and New Testaments, and.
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: The biblical story lives there.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: So, you can choose to accept it or reject it,
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: but that is the biblical story we have. I mean,
• 20:58
  Speaker 2: the strange thing is that the people who are trying
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: to get out of it are Christians. But what they'll
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: try to say, and I think there's an element of
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: truth to this, but it leaves out a lot, is
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: they'll say something like, well, when Jesus came, all of
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: the other stuff ceased to matter. And essentially what happened
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: is that we were in a new covenant, and they
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: don't say this, but we might as well get rid
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: of the Old Testament. And the reason The reason I
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: think this is so dumb is that the Bible follows
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: a trajectory, right? If God is in three persons, Father, Son,
• 21:31
  Speaker 2: and Holy Spirit, then the Old Testament is sort of
• 21:34
  Speaker 2: the biography of God the Father. The Gospels are the
• 21:37
  Speaker 2: biography of God the Son. And the Book of Acts,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the early Christian movement, is the biography of the Holy Spirit.
• 21:43
  Speaker 2: And there's a kind of beautiful unfolding here. So you
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: can't get rid of any of it. It all hangs together.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: You know, what's interesting is I've got friends who are Muslims.
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: And they're very peaceful people. They are not the people
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that want to help the theocracy in Iran. But that said,
• 21:59
  Speaker 1: you know what they'll say to me? You're right. That
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: was the book of the Father. This is the book
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: of the Son. This is the continuation of the Holy Spirit.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: And then the Koran is the finality of it all.
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: That picks up where they left off. So archaeologically speaking,
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: are we finding out information that can be usable to
• 22:15
  Speaker 1: tell somebody, no, the Quran is not the next step, dude.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I mean, in fact, there is this hypocrisy in the
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: Quran if you take it for what they say it says,
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: and then you take it for what it actually says.
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: So what say you archaeologically, scientifically, forget the religious part
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: of it, when they say this is the next book,
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: what's the response?
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: So I would go even further.
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: Have you heard that, first of all?
• 22:37
  Speaker 3: I've heard that. Yeah, sure. I've heard that.
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: And they'll say something like, you know, yes, that the
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Quran is the ultimate revelation, the final fulfillment, blah, blah, blah.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: But here's the thing.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: The only book in the world, the only religious text
• 22:51
  Speaker 2: that has been even subjected to archaeological scrutiny is the Bibles.
• 22:58
  Speaker 2: Nobody has even attempted to archaeologically verify the Quran.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: The Buddhist scriptures, the Hindu scriptures.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: In fact, I would go even further and say that
• 23:08
  Speaker 2: atheism is focused on essentially debunking.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: The God of the Jews, Yahweh, and the God of
• 23:14
  Speaker 3: the Christians.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: The atheists don't bother to refute Allah or Brahma or,
• 23:20
  Speaker 2: of course, ancient polytheism. their target is the Jewish and
• 23:24
  Speaker 2: Christian God. And isn't that very interesting, right? Because so
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: one way in which Christianity is unique is we have
• 23:30
  Speaker 2: a text that can withstand the most modern, the most
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: scorching scholarly scrutiny, whereas Other texts not only can't do that,
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: but nobody even attempts to do it.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: But why are they doing it? Because they're more threatened
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: by it? Because so many people believe in it? Because
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: it's actually provable, so we've got to attack it? Why
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: do they care? Why only bring the Bible under scrutiny
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: archaeologically or scientifically? It doesn't make sense to me.
• 23:57
  Speaker 2: To me, the rebellion against the Bible is the rebellion
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: against the moral strictures of of Judaism and Christianity. So
• 24:07
  Speaker 2: something like the 10 commandments, right? So what you have
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: really is this idea that yes, you're free to live
• 24:14
  Speaker 2: your life, but there is an external moral code and
• 24:18
  Speaker 2: this whole idea that it was given by God on
• 24:20
  Speaker 2: tablets to Moses and we are sort of under that
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: moral code and we will at some level be held
• 24:26
  Speaker 2: accountable to it.
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: This is what people hate.
• 24:29
  Speaker 2: They want their freedom to not just be political freedom,
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: economic freedom, they want moral freedom without a supervisory deity
• 24:39
  Speaker 2: that's going to say, oops, you shouldn't have done that,
• 24:41
  Speaker 2: you need to repent. And even though Christianity allows for
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: repentance to ultimately wash away through Jesus Christ every sin,
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: no matter how heinous, even that's not enough for these guys.
• 24:53
  Speaker 2: They don't want the judgment at all. And so I
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: think that a lot of their skepticism comes out of that,
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: and then they use their intellectual weapons to then justify it.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: It is Dinesh D'Souza. Go and pre-order this book. It's
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: called The Stone's Cry. It's available now on Amazon. Go
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: there and check it out. Let me ask you as
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: we finish up, and thanks so much for giving me
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: so much time today. What are we learning archaeologically and
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: scientifically about the Palestinians? We know that they're not related
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: at all ancestrally to the Philistines. The Philistines were only
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: named the Philistines to make the Jews mad because they
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: were their ancient historic enemy. They were fighting the Canaanites.
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: And then fast forward to let's call these people the
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: Palestinians because That'll make the Jews mad. I think we
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: could prove what I just said. All that said, isn't
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Jordan the Palestinian state? That didn't exist before. Trans-Jordan became Jordan.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Somehow they got the West Bank. They decided to start
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a war in 67. The Jews beat them and took
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: it back and said, well, screw you. You can't have
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the West Bank. There are people like Andrews, maybe not
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Andrew Wilson, maybe there's some other, some guy named Smith,
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: a comedian who's out there all the time, who.
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: Argues, let's go back to the 60s.
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. Let's go back. Dave Smith wants to go
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: back to the 67 borders. Well, Dinesh, they had the
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: 67 borders before they started a war, and that's when
• 26:02
  Speaker 1: the Jews said, or Israel said, we won, we're going
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: to take it. So when it comes to scientific history,
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: archaeological history, what are we finding out about the Palestinians?
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: Because I don't think they ever really existed, certainly not
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: in the form and ancestry of the people claiming to
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: be Palestinians today.
• 26:18
  Speaker 2: Well, number one, there never was... in history, a Palestinian
• 26:24
  Speaker 2: nation or a Palestinian state. Gaza was inhabited by, Gaza
• 26:30
  Speaker 2: was part of Philistia, which is Philistine country. But the
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: Philistines were essentially natives of the Greek islands, places like Cyprus.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: They were called the Sea Peoples.
• 26:41
  Speaker 3: These were Europeans.
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: They were quite obviously not Semitic Arab peoples. And so
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: the people living in Gaza, the Philistines, of course, vanished
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: from the pages of history, but it's safe to say
• 26:56
  Speaker 2: that that is not the aboriginal land of the so-called
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: self-described Palestinians. The other point to keep in mind is
• 27:03
  Speaker 2: that Islam conquered the entire region by force, right? The
• 27:09
  Speaker 2: Islamic armies came out of the Arabian desert. they conquered
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: the Holy Land. All these countries, Syria, Jordan, were all
• 27:16
  Speaker 2: Christian before the Muslims showed up. And the Muslims stomped
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: on them. They made forcible conversions, forcible conquests. And so
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: it's possible that they took some of the native peoples
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: in the old Canaan and forcibly converted them to Islam.
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: And now they're claiming like, oh, because maybe we can
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: trace some genetic inheritance. But of course, for the Islamic armies,
• 27:41
  Speaker 2: the genes were unimportant. The main point is that these
• 27:43
  Speaker 2: are the armies of Allah. So what I find so
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: interesting is Israel is portrayed as a colonialist or colonizing power.
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: when how do you colonize your own ancestral land?
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: And then not only that, right?
• 27:58
  Speaker 2: I mean, it's like accusing the Indians of colonizing India.
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: And meanwhile, the Islamic armies, which have conquered the whole region,
• 28:08
  Speaker 2: and not only that, I mean, you stand in the
• 28:09
  Speaker 2: middle of Jerusalem, the biggest thing you see is this
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Dome of the Rock, an Islamic victory arch, which is
• 28:16
  Speaker 2: Right on the top of the site of the old
• 28:19
  Speaker 2: Solomonic temple. So, I mean, talk about a colonial kind
• 28:23
  Speaker 2: of like, you know, middle raised finger is what the
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: Muslims and even now the Israelis won't even touch it,
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: even though they control the land. So all of this
• 28:35
  Speaker 2: debate has become so garbled because it's just a profusion
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: of lies coming from one side.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: It is Dinesh D'Souza, go pre-order the book, The Stones
• 28:46
  Speaker 1: Cry Out. Last question, and it has nothing to do
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: with your book, and I apologize, nothing to do with archaeology.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: As you watch Abdul Rahman Mohammed El-Sayed become the Democrat
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: nominee in Michigan, as you see Zoran Mamdani as the
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: mayor of New York, as you see some idiot who
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: would wash her hands on the American flag, and she
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: has said nothing but negative anti-American stuff, win her race
• 29:08
  Speaker 1: to possibly be a U.S. representative in New York, another
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: idiot in Colorado doing the same thing. Biblically speaking, is
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: this what they're doing in this country? And by them,
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: I mean those who would like to Islamify this country. Now,
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: they pretend that they're doing it as socialists. They pretend
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: that they like the gays. They pretend that they like everybody.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: They're looking out for everybody, which you and I know
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: that's a way in. It's almost like what Maduro did
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: and what Chavez did in Venezuela. Let me lie and
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: then let me get the power. Then once I have
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: the power, you'll do what I say. What do you
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: see happening in this country? Because we do have the
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Second Amendment and we do have the right to defend
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: our our, our value system, our families and our stuff.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: How do we stop this incursion where historically speaking, it
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: looks like they're trying to do to us what was
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: done to Spain for six or 700 years. They would
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: like to take over the land and then force whatever
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: value system they want on us. What do you see
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: happening in this country? And can we push back?
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I do think that this new generation of sort of
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: Islamic candidates is much more savvy than the kind of
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: threats that we are accustomed to expecting, right? We're used
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: to thinking of radical Muslims like bin Laden or the
• 30:16
  Speaker 2: Ayatollah Khomeini. Those are very foreign guys. They wear ridiculous clothing.
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: They have gigantic beards down to their waist. And that
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: kind of movement is obviously unappealing politically. But then you
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: have a guy like Mamdani, and this guy is like multicultural.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: He's kind of a rapper. He's got an Indian heritage.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: He eats rice with his hands. He makes really good
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: social media videos. And he couldn't be more like effusive
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: and emotional when he's out there shaking people's hands. He
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: looks like he's really immensely enjoying himself. And he also
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: is able to vary his accent depending on who he's
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: talking to. This guy, Abdul, this guy El-Sayed. He's also
• 30:59
  Speaker 2: a smart guy. As I understand, he went to Harvard.
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: He's a Rhodes Scholar. So this is a guy with
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: a lot of savvy. And I see even people like
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: Ilhan Omar, who Ilhan Omar seemed like a complete dope
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: when she first got elected. But she's developed a certain
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: street smart, a certain kind of cunning ability. That makes
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: her pretty effective in her own way. Now, what's paving
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: the way for these people is, of course, the embrace
• 31:25
  Speaker 2: by the left. Because if the Muslims had to do
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: it on their own, I don't think they would get
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: very far. But all these places from New York to.
• 31:33
  Speaker 3: Michigan, Minnesota..
• 31:36
  Speaker 2: You have this kind of scissors-like movement between the left,
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: they are one prong of the scissors, and then the
• 31:42
  Speaker 2: Islamic element is the other prong of it, so they're
• 31:45
  Speaker 2: working closely together. So I think this is going to
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: be something that is difficult enough to stop in the
• 31:50
  Speaker 2: red states, but extremely difficult to stop in the blue states,
• 31:54
  Speaker 2: because the dominant political party in the blue states is essentially.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: Joined at the hip.
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: With these Islamic activists. In the red states, it's also difficult,
• 32:06
  Speaker 2: but for a different reason. People don't like it, but
• 32:09
  Speaker 2: they're sort of not sure what to do. They want
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: to build a giant mosque. They want to buy a
• 32:13
  Speaker 2: thousand acres of property. They want to create a Muslim
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: school for Muslim boys. They want to teach Sharia law.
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: But if you say, wait a minute, the Muslims will
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: then say to you, well, wait a minute, this is
• 32:23
  Speaker 2: private property. We're using our own money. I thought you
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: people favored private education. Don't you believe in free speech,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: freedom of assembly, freedom of religion?
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: Leave us alone.
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: So I think in the red states, the difficulty is
• 32:36
  Speaker 2: how within our constitutional structure do we stop these people
• 32:40
  Speaker 2: when they are traveling on the passport of our liberties
• 32:43
  Speaker 2: toward a destination that would subvert those liberties.
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: If you don't mind, let me stop you here. I
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: grew up in South Florida, and there's a religion there
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: called Santeria. and they would do animal sacrifice in San Maria.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: And we said, hey, we don't do animal sacrifice. Our
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: value system is against that. Why can't we say, hey,
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: you can't have Sharia law on your thousand acres of
• 33:03
  Speaker 1: land in your epic city in Plano, Texas. You can't
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: do that. It goes against our value system. It's antithetical
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: to our constitution. Why aren't we allowed to say that?
• 33:13
  Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what the Muslim strategy is. They
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: will say, all right, well, you know, you're right. You have,
• 33:19
  Speaker 2: for example, the laws against polygamy. And so, yeah, we
• 33:23
  Speaker 2: Muslims can't really have legally four wives.
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: Right.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: That's true.
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: But they go, but... you're ringing your church bell every
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  Speaker 2: now and then. Why can't we have these public calls
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  Speaker 2: to prayer? And you have private education, Catholic schools, which
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  Speaker 2: teach Catholic doctrine. Well, why can't we teach Islamic doctrine
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  Speaker 2: inside of our schools? Their point is that one day,
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  Speaker 2: not now, but one day, we will control the school board.
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  Speaker 2: One day, we will dominate the city council. One day,
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  Speaker 2: we will have whole towns, whole suburbs, maybe whole cities
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  Speaker 2: under our sway. that's when we're going to start introducing
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  Speaker 2: these elements of Sharia law. It's going to correspond with
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  Speaker 2: the degree of power that we have achieved in the society.
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  Speaker 1: I think the obvious answer to them is we are
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  Speaker 1: based on a Judeo-Christian value system, based on the Magna Carta,
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  Speaker 1: based on the Ten Commandments, and that is antithetical to
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  Speaker 1: what it is that you believe. And I don't think
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  Speaker 1: we should be afraid to say that as Americans. That's
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  Speaker 1: not me saying be a Christian. or we'll kill you,
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  Speaker 1: be a Jew, or we'll kill you. We're not saying that.
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  Speaker 1: This is what our society was based on. Our values,
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  Speaker 1: our mores. We can go down the historic line if
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  Speaker 1: you want, and you see how religiously it's connected. And again,
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  Speaker 1: nobody said you have to be this, that, or the other,
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  Speaker 1: but you certainly have to follow by the tenets that
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  Speaker 1: were listed in the Constitution, protecting these rights granted by God.
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  Speaker 1: I'll give you the last word. I really wanted to
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  Speaker 1: go there with you, and I know you've got to go,
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  Speaker 1: and I appreciate the time today. Give me the last
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: word on that. Just a little bit of advice to
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: those watching and listening. on how you handle somebody who
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: is using our Constitution and our rights against us in
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  Speaker 1: taking us away from those things.
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  Speaker 2: The most important thing, I think, is for us to
• 34:56
  Speaker 2: rediscover the courage of our own religious and moral and
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: political convictions. The military strategist, Clausewitz, rightly pointed out a
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  Speaker 2: couple of centuries ago that military success is basically force
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  Speaker 2: times will. Now, we have more numbers than the Muslims do.
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  Speaker 2: but they have incredible willpower. As I've put it, I've
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  Speaker 2: said in my earlier film, The Dragon's Prophecy, Islam has
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  Speaker 2: not lost the force of the original revelation. So if
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  Speaker 2: it's strong, confident Muslims against very lukewarm Protestants and Catholics,
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  Speaker 2: then the Muslims, I think, have a good chance to win.
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  Speaker 2: But if it's strong, believing Muslims against strong, believing Christians
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  Speaker 2: on the other side, then I have much better hopes
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: for this country.
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  Speaker 1: I'm with you. Dinesh D'Souza, go get his book. Go
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: pre-order it. The Stones Cry Out, Biblical Archaeology, Prophecy and
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: the Last Days. It's out in October. You can pre-order
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: it right now. Go to DineshD'Souza.com for everything that he's doing. Dinesh,
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  Speaker 1: amazing as always. Thank you so much for making the time.
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  Speaker 1: Best to Debbie and the family, okay?
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  Speaker 3: Thank you.
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  Speaker 1: All right, brother. That's going to do it for this one.
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