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REVEALED: The Key to Defeating the Cabal's Psychological Warfare w/ Leigh Dundas · Man in America Podcast

• 0:00
  Seth Holehouse: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Man in America. I'm your host, Seth Holehouse. So I've talked a lot about the intricate plans of the deep state, the cabal, whether we're talking about silent weapons for quiet wars or any number of documents or even their own words we've looked at to understand what we're up against. And that's really beneficial because we need to understand where we're at this war, but it can also have a negative effect of making us feel like the enemy is insurmountable to making us feel defeated, like we don't have the money, the time, the resources needed to fight this war. And I never want to do that.
• 0:37
  I always want to be able to bring hope to people, which you probably know that I do that. Like, I really try to even in a dark and heavy conversation, I try to end with something that says, okay, folks, but here's why I think that we're gonna win this because I really do. I genuinely believe that we will triumph. I I really do. I feel in every cell of my body, not because of some magical plan or because of something that, you know, some sort of secret sauce or I just I just feel it because I just well, part of this is my faith in God, and that comes into play, but I just have this sense that that I can feel into the future, and I know that we will overcome what we're up against.
• 1:13
  So it won't be easy. And so joining me today is actually one of my favorite guests. It's Lee Dundas. And so she's a a firebrand of a woman. You've probably seen her.
• 1:22
  She's whether she's done some, you know, the stairs of a capital somewhere speaking or on a podcast. Her story is incredible. Her background's incredible. Her work is incredible. And so today, we're gonna be focusing though on specifically ironing out the details and helping us better understand the psychology of winning, the psychology of winning the war.
• 1:43
  Because our minds, our our thoughts, our prayers, they greatly affect our surroundings. They greatly affect our health. They greatly affect our our futures, the futures for our children, etcetera. And so learning, I think, some of the fundamentals of how to apply the right psychology to what we're doing, and how to as a group that's fighting to save this country, to better position ourselves mentally to benefit the our mission, and to actually achieve the goal that we're trying to achieve, which is that saving our nation and leaving behind a nation our children, our grandchildren can grow up in. It's it's absolutely critical.
• 2:21
  So this is gonna be a really fascinating. I'm sure it's gonna be very fun. Lots of smiles, high energy, probably no crying. I know we I've had Leon before, we both did have been tears talking about child sex trafficking. This is not that kind of interview.
• 2:34
  I think this interview is gonna leave you feeling hopeful, feeling empowered, feeling like there's a future worth fighting for that we can achieve. So folks, please enjoy the interview with Leigh Dundas. Miss Leigh Dundas, it is such a pleasure to have you back on the show. Thank you so much for being here with us today.
• 2:54
  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you so much for having me, Seth, on Man in America. You are one of my favorite interviewers legit ever, ever, ever. And your audience is so awake and activated. It's just it's a win win. Thanks for having me.
• 3:05
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you for those kind words. So I like how you start off saying win win because, you know and I know that you're absolutely part of this. A lot of the discussions that I've had, a lot of the discussions that we've had, they've been dark. It's been exposing the underbelly of this satanic criminal cabal, whether it's through child sex trafficking or through absolute corruption, or, you know, communist infiltration, and we'll probably touch on some of those things, but there's been a lot of energy put into that. And there's not been a lot of energy put into the what you talked about is the psychology of winning, Right?
• 3:39
  And that's think that's where, you know, I'm a big believer of, you know, your your energy goes where your mind goes. Right? Whatever you focus on, it expands. It becomes greater. You can focus on a small problem in your life.
• 3:52
  And it's like I grew up, you know, hearing, don't make a mountain out of a molehill. Right? We're I think in a lot of ways, we're making mountains out of the the plans of the evil, and we're making molehills out of what we can actually do about it. And so you're someone that understands, I think, both sides. And so I think I'm excited for having a discussion with you that's very focused on solutions and really the kind of mindset we need to win.
• 4:17
  And actually, I think leading people with the tools they need and the hope to believe that we actually can win this. So I'll just I'll hand it over to you wherever you want to start.
• 4:25
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, well, know, this is a topic that's near and dear to my heart. When I started college, I was 14, 15 years old, I ended up skipping high school through a fluke. And I distinctly remember jumping in to college and being like, what is my major going to be? I was told in eighth grade career placement classes that I had four years to figure this out. But you know, through the stroke of luck, I got to jump into real life college when I was 14, going on 15, and you have to pick a major.
• 4:54
  So I was a music major for a hot second and then I realized that I did not want to marry my piano as much as I loved it. Didn't want to spend fourteen hours a day married to the thing. And I had taken a sociology course and I thought it was fascinating. All of the studies that we went over, how your mind works, how groups work differently than individuals, why people will go along to get along in a group and go against their conscience where if they were one on one, they never would have taken that action. All of that to me was just fascinating, probably because I'd had a kind of chaotic upbringing to some extent with a parent.
• 5:31
  I had one great parent and one parent who was not as great. And you know, when you grow up like that, you're constantly, you know, you've got your eyes forward. You're watching what people do, you're not watching what they say. You're constantly evaluating, is this believable? Is this a credible stance?
• 5:47
  Do I need to do something to protect myself? What makes people do weird things, evil things, things that don't seem optimally suited to get a good result? So I was just, I think, a bit of a people watcher as a kid. And then that was reinforced by growing up with somebody who was sort of a rage aholic and had his own demons from his own childhood abuse. And then I got into this college course and I'm like, dang, here's all of the data to explain what I've been like trying to figure out in my own little world for fourteen years from age one to 14.
• 6:22
  So I switched my major from piano and music majors stuff over to sociology with a psych emphasis. And then I got out and realized of course that I really wanted to be a dolphin trainer but SeaWorld wasn't hiring. Sociologists were making less than the poverty line in LA at the time. And off I went to law school and I got a little bit lost there for the last thirty five years. But when this fight started that we have found ourselves in, so yeah, you know, I've done a lot of work in these third world countries and it's so different than in America because we're trained here.
• 6:55
  If you've a problem, talk to a politician or a policeman or some of those law enforcement type people will fix it for you. But in these communist or may as well be communist third world countries, you can't do that. You don't walk up to a policeman and say, hey, hey, Mr. Policeman, you need to arrest the bad man over there because he's selling seven year olds to sex buyers. 90 plus percent of the time the guy is going to be like, I know he is, he's my brother and I own the brothel.
• 7:21
  And I'm not going to arrest myself. So thanks anyway. So you end up having to become very creative to get solutions to these problems. And you flashback a lot if you're like me and you had a lot of psychology, sociology courses early in your life to really what makes good people do good things and what makes evil people do evil things and how can you leverage what you know about the human mind and human psychology to get a good result even when the odds and the deck is stacked against you. And so I had all of that background as we hit 2020.
• 7:57
  And it proved uniquely useful because I was not just coming out the problems like a first world white shoe lawyer law firm kind of gal where I was like, oh, well, you have a problem, let's go to court. I knew going to court, especially in the blue states was going be a losing proposition most of the time. And unfortunately, in my state of California, we're losing probably 90 to 99 out of every 100 freedom fighter cases we file. So I wasn't wasting my time there. I was doing grassroots stuff.
• 8:25
  I was doing public name and shame programs because nobody, whether you're a good guy or an evil guy, nobody likes having their skeletons dragged out of their closet for the world to see. And when you start doing that, and you name and shame them, they start going, You know, I think I want to get reelected. Let's get back in my lane and drop that hot potato and make the people who are naming and shaming me happy so that we can all go our separate ways. And you're basically teaching people how to treat you. And so yeah, I got this opportunity a few weeks ago to teach this course on the Psychology of the Winter that is being hosted by Kairosh University where I live in Tustin, California.
• 9:02
  But you don't have to come live, don't have to come on Saturday if you live where Seth lives, if you live in Texas, if you live in Ohio, Nebraska, Maine, Massachusetts, it doesn't matter. You can catch it on replay from anywhere in the world and still take the course online. And we're going go into the psychological tricks that the left is using to brainwash us and radicalize our youth. And simultaneously, we're going to do this deep dive into this neuroscience body of data that exists that tells us in very concrete terms that not only can we be winners, we should be winners, and you just need to know the recipe, and it becomes a whole lot easier to be a winner.
• 9:38
  Seth Holehouse: And so how obviously, you can't give us the entire course during this interview. But if you're to give us the cliff notes, right, of walking us through the the recipe, and I'm also I'm fascinated with the the neuroscience of it. Because I'm so my I remember, I think I was probably 15 14 or 15 when I started getting into psychology and, you know, quantum physics, and I just had this brain that was just really active, and I was questioning everything and saying, well, how is it this religion relate to that religion? And what is know, what are the philosophers saying? And and I became fascinated, especially with with psychology, and then that turned into, you know, understanding communism and then getting into I've always been fascinated by, you know, people like, you know, not not not just say Freud, but some of the greats and how they understood the minds, but, more like Edward Bernays, and understanding how psychology is applied to the to the masses or Gustave Le Bon with the crowd, and looking at throughout history how people have been controlled.
• 10:31
  Because to me, that's the secret. Like, that's, like, that's where the war is at. Like, there's billions of us up against probably a couple thousand of them, you know, when it comes down to it. So how is it they're able to pacify and control all of us? How do we break out of that?
• 10:48
  And how do we win? So I guess I'll I'll look to you for your your your cliff notes wherever you want to start with it.
• 10:54
  Speaker 2: Yeah, like you, I have just been eternally fascinated with all those subjects. And whenever I pick up a good housekeeping magazine and they talk about some psychological hack that they've discovered, or I find a new book on the subject. And I'm not a big science brain, but when somebody gives me the third grade version of quantum mechanics or the observer effect and all these things, I'm like, wow, you know, so just wow. But yeah, I'll go into some of the stuff that I think that the dictators and the genocidal bad guys throughout the ages have used to really take what I think is about at least 80% of the good people on this planet at any given time or era in history and make them bow down to a handful, as you so rightly noted right now, of evildoers and have horrifying results. Witness the Holocaust, witness the Rwandan genocide, witness pole pots, Cambodia, where more than a quarter of the population was shot or axed in the back face down into shallow graves when we were kids in the late 70s.
• 12:00
  I mean, the same playbook keeps going over and over and over again. And you know, to quote my favorite Holocaust survivor, Vera Shevab, those who don't remember the history are doomed to repeat it, right? She's fond of quoting whoever said that originally and she's right. Like we just keep seeing this play out, but why and how? And what I have seen personally in my own life and now that I have a kid in her life and those of her friends is that people who know more do better.
• 12:28
  So that's why I want to educate. And the first study I found in college, it was not even a psychology course or a sociology course. My poly sci, my political science professor one day in the late 80s took a left turn and started talking about Stanley Milgram. And he said, Hey, did you guys know that in the 60s and 1961, was a Yale University professor by the name of Stanley Milgram who kind of wanted to get to the bottom of the Holocaust? He was surmising that maybe it wasn't just Hitler's fault, obviously it was Hitler's fault.
• 12:57
  But maybe the reason Hitler was so successful is because he was able to brainwash the masses and the masses were maybe a bit too obedient to one crazy guy's playbook. And so he designed this study and he got all these average folks from around Yale University to come in and they had been told they were going to be part of a memory study, memory experiment. And they got paired up into groups of two people, you and me would make a pair. Then he just gave them like an arbitrary list of words to memorize. It was like, when I say camel, you're supposed to say table, and when I say couch, you're supposed to say umbrella.
• 13:34
  And then he separated them, so now it's like you and me, I can hear you, but you were on the other side of the wall. I couldn't see you, but I could hear you. And I was supposed to give you your first word, camel, and you're supposed to give me the word whatever table. And when you get the answer wrong and you give me an incorrect response, then I am supposed to negatively reinforce that to aid your memory, allegedly, by giving you a little shock. And there was like a panel on the wall with switches, kind of like light switches in a row.
• 14:05
  And for every switch, it gave you a successfully higher shock. You had been wired in the other room on your arms with little electric stimulation pads. And it started at like, I don't know, nine or 15 volts, which you know, if you've ever licked a battery, like a nine volt battery, you've done it. Have you done that, son?
• 14:22
  Seth Holehouse: Of course.
• 14:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay. I'm not the only one. I say this sometimes on speeches and the whole crowd looks at me like, I've never licked a nine volt battery. I'm like, am I the only idiot
• 14:31
  Seth Holehouse: in my No, I did. We we had an electric dog fence and one that we we, you know, take turns holding it in your hand and see who could run across the fence. So we did yeah. As kids, we were always looking for that kind of stuff to do. Folks, perhaps you'd agree with me when I say that over the past five years, the mainstream health care systems credibility has plummeted.
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• 15:50
  Speaker 2: You know, looking for the buzz literally, right, electrically. Yeah. So you lick that nine volt battery for those of you who have not done it because you're brighter than me and Seth, or or or, you know, more cautious. You lick it and you go, that tastes really nasty, like in your tongue's like kind of freaking out. It's not pleasant, but it's not fatal.
• 16:09
  It's definitely not something you're going to spend the rest of your life doing, right? And so it starts off with that. But then if Seth gives me another wrong answer, now I'm supposed to hit him with 15 volts of juice and then 20 and so on and so forth, all the way up to four fifty volts, which is pretty darn bad. It is a fatal dose of electricity. It's what they give death row inmates who are in the electric chair to give you the equivalent.
• 16:32
  And I don't know this, but the person in the next room, my buddy in the next room, my partner is not actually being shocked and I'm not actually hearing his voice. I am hearing pre recorded wrong and right answers from the guy who's conducting the experiment. And I'm also hearing pre recorded sounds of pain because you know, as the voltage gets more, I'm hearing from the other room, 'Ah, that really hurts, you got to stop.' And then as it gets worse, it's oh my gosh, man, you're going to kill me. Knock it off. My heart's skipping beats.
• 17:00
  I'm going have another heart attack if you keep it up. And that was all intentionally designed by Stanley Milgram to create emotional stress on the part of the person who was actually being studied and not for their memory capability, but for their obedience to authoritative figures. So typically the guy in my shoes at some point, giving the word prompts, turns to the guy who's a stooge, he's a confederate of Stanley Milgram's, who's allegedly in charge of this experiment and he goes, Dude, I'm not okay continuing to nuke my neighbor in the next room. I signed up for a memory thing. He sounds like he's in pain over there.
• 17:35
  I'm out. I'm tapping out. And for his part, the Confederate Stanley Milgram had been placed in a white, very stiffly starched lab coat with the name Doctor. So and So across his lapel. He'd been given a clipboard, a stethoscope, a pen.
• 17:48
  He was tall, he was white, he was male. They did everything they could to make him look as authoritative in the eyes of the guy asking him questions as could be. And that guy had been coached in response to the person questioning him to say three words, you must continue, or you should continue, or you got to continue. There was no gun to the head. There was no locking of the door.
• 18:12
  The guy couldn't say, Oh, you're not allowed to leave the memory experiment until you've gone to the bitter end. None of that. Just a little bit of verbal coercion. And of course, the question was what percentage of Americans would be willing to go all the way to the end and kill their neighbor, or so they thought, over a wrong answer on a memory test just because a guy in a white lab coat said they should. And when he first shopped this around all of his friends in the psychology department at Yale, all of his other professorial colleagues were like, Dude, you're crazy.
• 18:42
  It's the 60s. What are you smoking? Like nobody is going to stay and kill their neighbor so they think just because you told them they had to. They're not going to be that obedient. Maybe one or 2%, the sadists, the narcissistic weirdos, the serial killers, maybe a couple will stay, but the rest of the normal people who are God loving auto mechanics and accountants and homemakers are going to walk the heck out.
• 19:05
  Sixty five point five percent of average law abiding Americans who went to church every Sunday and had not so much as a parking ticket on their record were willing to kill their neighbor because somebody said they should who was in a position of authority. That study was done over and over to make sure the first batch of people was not biased or weird or a one off. And every single time the study came back with the same results until they finally banned it years later as being unethical because it was so distressing to the person who was actually being studied. But numbers of other experiments exist to this effect. There's the ASH conformity, it's A S C H is I believe the guy's name, ASH conformity experiments where they put me and Seth and two more people in a room, unbeknownst to me, all three of them are confederates of the experimenter, and they ask you which line is bigger, you know, this line or this line?
• 20:00
  And it's very obvious which is a longer line and which isn't. And in the beginning, all of us are giving the same answer. We're going, yeah, the longer one is longer. But about three or four answers in, Seth and his two buddies start to and now it's getting a little harder, there's a long line and a not quite as long line, but it's not so obvious. And all the other people start giving the wrong answer.
• 20:21
  It's still obvious enough that I should know. Three
• 20:25
  Seth Holehouse: out
• 20:25
  Speaker 2: of four times, 75%, the person who knows what's in their own mind, knows that this is a shorter thing and that's a longer thing will go along with the people in the room. Why? Because we don't want to go against the group. Why is that? Well, take it all the way back to Neanderthal Cro Magnon when we were all very tribal on this planet.
• 20:47
  Being expelled from the group was certain death. You don't get through a negative 20 winter on the Great Plains Of America without your Native American tribe. If I'm a grandma, I'm not going to be bringing down buffalo if I've got bad knees and ankles and I'm on my desk. But you need your group to provide the other skill sets that you lack when you're not living in a first world country. Now it's kind of like fat storage.
• 21:12
  Our bodies don't need to store fat to get through long, harsh winters anymore. And yet we do, especially as women because we might need to burn the fat to go breastfeed and create babies, right? And we never know when the food source is going go down. And our minds have not caught up, neither has our body. Our body stores fat just in case, even though we don't need to anymore a lot of the time.
• 21:32
  And our minds go, I don't really want to go against the group because without that group, I might tie. That's your lizard brain sort of kicking in from a survival standpoint. And again, if Seth is my tribal leader and he says, as a young buck, 18 year old buff guy, Run! In the middle of the night because he hears a saber toothed tiger out there. If I run and I follow my leader, I live to see another day.
• 21:58
  That is a pro survival action. I have extended my life by following a good leader. But if Seth is now named Hitler and he's got a little pencil mustache and he's in 1938 Germany and he's telling me to bake my neighbor in an oven, obviously that is not what I should be doing playing the follow the leader game. But these are the things that our brains are hardwired with. And once you know about it, you can actually sidestep your DNA, your biological imperatives, your brain's imperatives and go, you know what, I'm going to bring the frontal lobe on board.
• 22:32
  I'm going look at this critically. I'm going use my critical reasoning and going, yeah, he seems to be baking people in an oven just because they're a different religion. Hard pass, not going to do that. We're not going to do that. And that is what we need to convince our kids of, as well as a lot of folks in average society.
• 22:48
  Most of us know that what the last four years has been doing to us and our children and our parents is awful. It is contra survival. It is not aiding our survival. And yet far too many people have been scared to speak up. But I believe courage is contagious.
• 23:04
  And the other body of data that I want to get to today is to talk about the amazing part of our brain that tells us we can win. And that is why you can find your soccer mom living at the end of the block bench pressing a VW Bug off her three year old if she has to, because her body is actually bowing down to her brain, getting flooded with adrenaline and bench pressing way more weight than that 5.2 soccer mom should be able to do because her kid's life is hanging in the balance. There is a part of our mind that we can access when push comes to shove to save ourselves, save our families. And that is what we need to be accessing now. And when you know how to do it, it is a walk in the park, comparatively speaking.
• 23:40
  And that's what I wanna be teaching our kids in this course and all the parents who are coming with their kids.
• 23:45
  Seth Holehouse: Gosh. There's a lot to unpack there. But one thing that I I just want conclusion to draw is that people by and large are very, very easy to control. And I think that we underestimate that. Yeah.
• 23:59
  Especially, I I would say that the the people that are watching this show, I would say they're probably in that small percentage that wouldn't listen to the guy with the lab coat. They, wouldn't listen to other people saying the line's not you know, the short line is longer. They're independent thinkers. Just by virtue of the topics that we're discussing, most people don't wanna talk about child sex trafficking. It's it's it's too far out tight outside the Overton win window.
• 24:24
  It it breaks their, you know, cognitive dissonance that life is how it is, and life is really nice, and let let just go back to that back to normal. Right? That that's what I want. Let's just go back to normal, like how things were before COVID started, and that's their that's their goal. But it's just it's a good lesson to understand that even though, obviously, you and I, and I think the majority of people watching this, we're fiercely independent thinkers, and we don't go along to get along.
• 24:49
  The vast majority of people, of individuals in this world do. And these these rulers, they know that. And and they not only do they know that, I mean, and we haven't got into, you know, CIA, MK Ultra, the brainwashing, the mind control, the subliminal messaging. I mean, there's so much more that it takes that that already, you know, two and three people that will hit the button to kill somebody. They they take that.
• 25:15
  They combine it with, you know, even the the programming of people thinking that, you know, they they the media does this all the time. Trump races. Trump races. Trump races. So someone hears Trump without even realizing it.
• 25:28
  Their mind's already reacting. They're having a physiological response to that. And so that's been used against us. So, I think understanding these, facets of human psychology, but also I'm looking forward to understanding the positive flip side of this, I think is extremely powerful and really important because I would say a lot of people that are watching this, they they know the risks that our country's at, and they want to actively work to save our country. But many times, we just don't know how.
• 25:54
  We don't know how.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And it is and they've been doing a job even on those of us who are awake. You know, I know I'm preaching to the choir when I'm on these podcasts because if you've self selected out of CNN to following a Seth Hulhaus or Mel Kay or you know, whoever your favorite podcaster is, you are one of the few. But we are getting more and more folks over to our side. Know, 90% of CNN watchers are no longer watching.
• 26:20
  I mean, legacy media is dying on the vine and it needs to because it's being controlled by the CIA. It's always been controlled by the CIA. And they've known exactly since 1951 how to break down the human psyche. You know, they had a secret meeting. I can't remember if I've talked about it on your show or not, Seth.
• 26:36
  But the forerunner to RCIA in 1951 went to Canada, to Montreal, took over the Ritz Carlton and they invited their colleagues from Britain and Canada who were all these military genius science doctors, military high ranking folks that would become CIA once it came out under that name years later. And their sole mission when they were meeting at the Montreal Ritz Carlton was to figure out, to commission studies really, to figure out the quickest way and the most effective way to break down a human being psychologically. And it was pretty fascinating work, mean awful work, but you got to know what the result was. The result was it wasn't food or water torture. By the way, I was on a plane twice in the last two days so I've got the dry throat, I've got the one ear that's like not clearing itself.
• 27:23
  So if people are like, oh my gosh, she's signaling that she's part of the Illumina no, I'm not part of the Illuminati if this is some hidden sign. My right ear is just not wanting to you know how like when you come down off the plane, you're like half and half. I'm still kind of half and half right now. Anyway, all that to say when they took water away from people, when they took food away from people, when they blared nasty music and turned the lights on and off in their cell. That didn't work to break them down psychologically, along with torture, physical torture, breaking their bones, beating them, whatever, waterboarding.
• 27:56
  But none of those, including torture, was as effective as social isolation. And that is why the UN prohibits more than fifteen straight days of social isolation nowadays as being cruel, inhumane, and usual punishment. It is why a lot of jails and prisons have moved away from that for long periods of time for the same reason. John McCain, regardless of what you think of him now, he did do time I believe in a POW camp where more than half of the years he spent over there was isolated from his other POWs. And when he came back and they handed him a microphone, he said, do anything you want to.
• 28:30
  I'm slaughtering the quote, but the gist of it was, you can do anything you want to to me, including breaking all my long bones every darn day. Just don't separate me from my fellow man. It does a number on you. It kills the ventral striatum, which is the part of your brain that is responsible for connection, human connection, love, learning, right? All the things you need to have on board right now to fight the evildoers.
• 28:54
  It literally decimates your immune system. It decimates your cognition and your memory recall. Puts you whether you're 18 years old or 48 years old, it puts you on par with a guy who's dying of Alzheimer's in terms of your recall ability.
• 29:07
  Seth Holehouse: It
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: it 2X's your rate of death if you're black. It almost doubles your risk of death if you're white. And it makes you uniquely susceptible to signal data. What is signal data for those of you who are not CIA agents? That is brainwashing cues.
• 29:25
  And when we brought back POWs who had served in the Serbian Croatian conflict, and they put them through MRIs and other objective brain scan, CT type imaging, Those people who had been socially isolated, I. E. Distanced, from their neighbors in the POW camps had organic physical changes to their brain structure that were on par with the guys who had thrown themselves on a landmine or an IED and suffered a closed head wound, TBI, traumatic brain injury. It actually doesn't just make you feel dumber, it is rewiring your brain, shrinking your brain to be dumber. And they knew this.
• 30:02
  And that is what they were doing in March of twenty twenty. And that is why they kept us isolated so long. And then what did they do after that? They drowned us in the false propaganda, which if you're a communist immigrant, if you're a domestic abuse survivor, child abuse survivor, or if you're just lucky, and you can see the agenda, you can sniff out with your intuition, something's off here and I'm going to listen to that, you were awake to it. But the rest of the good people, rest of the 80% in the middle, they were just falling hard for it.
• 30:31
  And now they're starting to wake up after four years, but it has been a long, hard slog. And if people knew the data that I am quoting to you and your viewers right now, it just makes you more able to see it the next time around. And so many people like, I learned this in college. I was lucky I learned this in college, but lots of people were biology majors or, you know, business majors. They never took a psych class, right?
• 30:53
  So we need to get the data to them. And then fascinatingly enough, so that I'm not perseverating on all the bad because your brain does create what you want it to create.
• 31:02
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• 31:22
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• 31:44
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• 32:14
  Speaker 2: And you have so much power right here in your heart and your mind that we don't even fully understand yet. You know, the electromagnetic field of our heart goes out three feet. And if I'm in the same room as you, our hearts will start syncing up. Those fields will sync up. We'll become connected just through the biology, even if I'm not touching you, right?
• 32:32
  Horses have a 15 foot radius, which is why they're so useful with autistic kids, special needs kids. They can literally calm the kid's biology down because their force field, right, as it were, is just so amazing. But there's a huge body of data that says, you go where you look. You know, this is coaching 101. You know, don't look at the opposition, go where you want to be downfield because your brain is going to take you where you want to be.
• 32:58
  If you stand like this, hands on hips, looking up at the sky, 45 degree angle to the sky, chest way out, feet shoulder width apart for two minutes a day. It drops your cortisol, which is the bad stress hormone that makes us dumb and fat, especially around our midsections as we get older, drops your stress cortisol 40%. That's almost by half. Increases your testosterone 20 some percent, like 17 to 20%. What does that do?
• 33:22
  It makes you stronger, obviously. It clears the brain fog and makes you make better decisions and you win more. Two minutes guys, when you're walking the dog every morning or night, stop the dog, let him water the fire hydrant, and you're sitting there looking a little weird to your neighbors, but you're doing yourself a favor. If you feed your kid an egg a day, they will be measurably smarter on IQ tests at the end of this year, like by 10 or 15 points, an egg a day. There are life hacks, right?
• 33:48
  There's this thing they did. I can't remember if I've ever talked about the rat study. Did I talk about the rat study the last time I was with you?
• 33:56
  Seth Holehouse: No, but is it the one where they put all the rats together? Like the basically the rat utopia? No. Okay, different one. No.
• 34:02
  Okay.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: It's a different one. Rat utopia is a good one. But this one is, it was a guy named Karl or Kurt Richter. I'm blanking on his first name, but Richter, r I c h t e r. And he was studying something else, I think.
• 34:15
  Then so kind of this was a bit of a detour that became its own study after a while though. He took his lab rats that were in his lab for whatever reason, and one day he's like, I want to know how long they can swim. So he takes his little fat, happy white lab rats and he drops them into a vat of water. And it turns out they give up the ghost at about minute fourteen or fifteen. And yep, there you go, right?
• 34:38
  So he goes, that is not
• 34:39
  Seth Holehouse: Kurt Richter.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: Thank you. Thank you for pulling it up. Yeah. So he goes, that is not exactly a write home and tell mom about it kind of result. Only fourteen, fifteen minutes.
• 34:49
  These are the rats that were supposed to be the descendants of Christopher Columbus, like swimming for miles when a ship is going down offshore. You can't swim for miles if you're given up at minute fourteen. So he thinks about it and he goes, well, maybe my lab rats are just a little bit too domesticated. They're fat. They're getting two, three square meals a day.
• 35:06
  These are not the Olympic athletes of the rat world. Let me go cage and trap some wild rats, the actual descendants of the Christopher Columbus rats. So he goes out and he catches some wild rats and he throws them into Nevada water. They swim less long than his lab rats did. So now Kurt Richter is like, what the what?
• 35:27
  Like why are the wild rats that should be stronger, more clever, more tenacious, underperforming as against my fat, sassy, kicking back in their rat hammock in their lab cage. Why are the lab rats beating the wild rats? None of this is making any sense. So he thinks about it for a couple days and he goes, you know, maybe it's because my lab rats are lab rats that they're swimming longer because they have hope of rescue, because they see this dude come into their cage twice a day like clockwork and clean their cage and give them water and give them food. So maybe in their little bitty rat brain, they're thinking they're going to be rescued by this guy and that gives them the will to swim two more minutes over the wild rats.
• 36:12
  So he puts his hypothesis to the test. He throws the lab rats back into the water. Once again, they're given up at around minute fifteen, but right before they sink to the bottom and die, he grabs them. He takes them out. He tells off their little furry rat head and he goes, You got it buddy, you can do this.
• 36:30
  And then he throws them back in. Mind you, this was not a long break. They had already just swung to full muscle fatigue and failure like they'd just run a marathon. He didn't give them time for their glycogen stores in their muscles to re come to like, this was a brief pause, and then it was right back into the drain. So you would be logically well understood to think that they might swim less long the second time because they were already at max capacity here on running a race.
• 36:58
  Not only did they swim another full fifteen minutes from the couple seconds of words of encouragement, they swam for three days on the second pass. Three days when they were willing to die at minute fourteen point five three seconds ago. They get a couple words of encouragement, they're back in. Not only do they swim another fifteen, they swim three damn days. Like holy Toledo.
• 37:25
  That is the singular power of hope, of expectation, of setting your mind to going, this can be done. Somebody's going to rescue me. There's going be some break I receive. I can do this if I just hold on a bit longer. It'll all go right in the end.
• 37:42
  Your brain can override your body to do miracles, like miraculous results here. And if a rat, a little tiny rat brain can do that, imagine what our human brains can do. Big old brains, right? This was a similar study to the one in the 60s right before I was born. I think it was late 60s.
• 37:58
  It was the Pygmalion classroom thing. They told the teacher before the elementary school kids went into class in the fall, Hey, just to give you a heads up so you're not shocked, the right half of the class is really, really smart. The left half, they're kind of the below IQ room temp challenged kids who get Ds and Fs. In reality, the class was arbitrarily assigned. It was just catch us, catch you can.
• 38:23
  They lied to the teacher, but she didn't know that. And then they told the teacher, don't behave any differently with respect to your smart half and your dumb half. You do you, just be very equal, but we just wanted you to know. And they mic'd her and they put a camera on her I think and they checked her out and she was not being biased. She wasn't saying, Hey little Johnny from the dumb half of the class, why don't you come give this equation a try?
• 38:47
  Oh good try, but no, you didn't quite get it. All right Einstein from the right half of the class, get over here and finish Johnny's work. We know you got this because you're a mini Einstein. She was not treating them like that. She was not objectively doing anything different in the real world versus one half to the other half.
• 39:04
  And yet, at the end of that year, through a completely unspoken power of expectation that only had been said in the teacher's mind, not the kid's minds. The smart half of the class was performing way above grade average, higher IQ scores on IQ tests across the board, every single one of them in the smart half which was actually a fake label. And unfortunately for the dumb half, they were performing to expectation as well. Something in our mind that is not even verbally or body language communicated still can affect the other person in the equation. Be very careful what you tell yourself, your family, your kids.
• 39:46
  Be very careful who you let teach your kids because if an unspoken expectation can create that big a difference, imagine the spoken expectation. Hey dummy. Hey smarty. Oh I'm not going to give you a chance. I don't believe in you.
• 39:58
  You know, you're a try hard but you never really get it done. You're nothing. You're nobody. The work of Masuro Imoto, are you familiar with him Seth? He's the guy who froze water during high school.
• 40:09
  Seth Holehouse: Yeah. Actually, I think I found his book in high school, and and that was part of that journey of, like, gosh, like, well actually, it's funny because I I remember at that point, maybe I was 16 years old, I came to this conclusion that, okay, it's like, well, happiness is good. Right? Like, I'd rather live a life where I'm happy versus a life where I'm angry and sad. And I thought, well, what if it's my decision to to be happy?
• 40:33
  And it's like, well, I wanna choose to be happy. And so I I actually had a nickname in in school of Smiley. And even when I was playing, you know, like freshman football and, you know, playing football, the the varsity team, they would suck the the big, you know, thick linebackers, They'd see who could hit me hard enough to make sure I wouldn't smile when I was getting back up. Right? And say they'd say, is he smiling still?
• 40:55
  And they would just level me, like, big running back, the senior running back, and get back up smiling. And that was the so that I was, you know, nicknamed Smiley, and I remember I thought like like, wow. It's like that's I obviously, certain certain things can happen, but I'm just thinking that should be a choice. Like, I can choose to react in that certain way. And I think it's it's helped me, you know, to this very day.
• 41:15
  But, yeah, it's a a lot of it was based on me reading and studying Masura Emoto. And it's like, what happens to my water crystals? And what happens inside of me if I think negatively myself? If I, let that bully, you know, really get to me? And, yeah, it was very, very, you know, very critical in my development actually.
• 41:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And that's fascinating personal story. Thank you for sharing. I didn't know that about you. But people don't realize the power of a positive mindset.
• 41:43
  And it sounds so trite and oh, read book psychology one hundred one in your magazine and guru speaker feel good kind of thing, but it's actually real. And one of the other fascinating sociology studies that I came across when I was in college after I changed my major is they had studied flight attendants who are required, at least back in the day in the 80s when I was in school, they were required to smile, right, and be nice to all of the guests. And they'd work these long haul flights over the pond to Britain or to Australia or Thailand where it's twenty, thirty hour flights. And they would get home and they would want to unwind and they couldn't unwind. And they couldn't even it was hard for them relate to their kid who was sad because they'd been smiling for so long.
• 42:33
  But they found when they deconstructed what was going on is even when you don't feel happy and you don't feel good, if you force yourself to smile, your body and brain will follow your smile. You can smile yourself into feeling happy essentially. Simultaneously, it can be a little bit tricky to turn it off, right, at the end of the shift or whatever. But that is just so powerful. And Masaru Imoto, I think was his name, he froze these glasses of water and he labeled them beautiful or peace or God or love or whatever.
• 43:06
  And when he froze the water, it would make these beautifully well synchronized, aesthetically appealing to the eye, beautiful eye structures, like a beautiful snowflake but in the ice crystal itself, right? And then when he taped to the water hateful terminology, you're ugly, you're fat, you know nothing, you're mean, or he'd blare death metal rock music. Thank you. Yeah. It would create these almost cancerous tumor looking structures where there was no synchronicity to it.
• 43:38
  It was asynchronous. It was one-sided. It looked ugly. It was not anywhere near as pretty, as you can see on the screen that Seth is so good at pulling up while I'm talking. What a difference a label makes.
• 43:49
  So we have to be careful how we label ourselves and how we label others because there's a lot that we're just starting to learn. And I think there's a whole body of data that we're going to learn. I want to live another at least fifty years about the things that we can feel that I don't think science has caught up to deconstructing that is out there. And one day we'll know, oh, that gut feeling, that was actually something you could measure on a meter of some sort that they devise, you know. But in the meantime, be very careful what you believe, what you say.
• 44:19
  I think we're going to win this fight. I believe firmly that we're going to win this fight, but I'm a bit of an optimist. But we need to believe that we're going to win. And certainly, you know, when people are negative Nellies and I look at them and I'm like, I don't get it. This is like Winston Churchill when he said, When in hell, keep going.
• 44:37
  How does it serve you to wave the white flag and give up and give in now? Maybe you're right. Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we're not going to win this fight, but we're for sure going to lose if everybody thinks we're gonna lose.
• 44:51
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• 46:19
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• 46:26
  Speaker 2: And why not go down fighting with your boots on? Like, don't we at least owe it to the men who gave us this great country? Our forefathers, the George Washingtons of the world who crossed the icy Delaware River the night before Christmas with he called up 3,000 troops, 10% responded. We had zero business winning the Revolutionary War. Zero business.
• 46:45
  Zero business. We were outgunned, outmanned, outmusketed. Britain had the biggest army and navy on the planet at the time. We were fighting with muskets that were jamming and Bowie knives. And yet
• 46:57
  Seth Holehouse: Bare feet. Bloody bare feet.
• 47:01
  Speaker 2: Yes. And yet with you know, broken straws, we built a beautiful American experiment. We defeated the British, we created this great country. We have a constitution that was a unicorn at its time and has literally been the cornerstone that every other first world country has copied. And yet we still have a gift that very few other first world countries have, which is they gave us the First Amendment.
• 47:27
  And it wasn't so that we could speak our peace to those who already agree with us. It was so we could speak out against the government who didn't agree and not be persecuted for it. That's the real meaning of the First Amendment is that I can say my truth as a minority and not go to jail for it. And we're eroding that right now. So we got to reverse that trend.
• 47:43
  But secondly, it was backstopped by the Second Amendment. How many other countries can you walk into and not know which households are packing heat? That is a very significant deterrent to an out of control government. And I heard about that from the time I was knee high to a grasshopper because my grandfather's parents brought him and his siblings through Ellis Island escaping communist terror, Red Terror Dust Squads of Eastern Europe in the Hungary Romania area in the nineteen teens. And they left my grandfather's eldest sibling, the oldest of 13 kids, behind and they were going to send for him and they never did.
• 48:20
  Something happened, don't know, never made it to America. So he was still staring down the Hitler desk wads twenty years later in the late 30s and 40s as a Roma gypsy guy. You know, Hitler didn't just hate the Jews, we had our own Romanian persecution there. But I was steeped in the fact that America is not just a great experiment, but really a thing of beauty that is like none other. And then man, I started going to these third world communist countries ten years ago.
• 48:46
  If that doesn't reinforce the beauty that is this country and why we must not let her be sold out on our watch, I don't know what that is. We are living in paradise. And if you doubt it, take a one way flight to view Auschwitz this summer or go look at the killing fields of Cambodia and you'll come back with a whole new perspective. And by the way, if you're a parent, I'm not just saying that if you don't believe me, if you do believe me and you've got an eight year old, take her to the killing fields of Cambodia. I took my daughter accidentally to the killing fields of Cambodia when she was eight years old.
• 49:17
  And I got to tell you, it was the best darn thing I ever did because that child ended up eyeball to eye socket with a skull in the monument. She was literally you can see over here, she's half as tall as I am. That's her eight years old. And the structure you see behind us is what I didn't know existed when the skeletons of those who were executed by pole pot float to the surface every year, fifty years later during the rainy season. Those who survived Cambodia's genocide very gingerly take the skeletons and put them in that glass case and the Khmer Rouge statement on the cases, something along the lines of, so we don't ever forget the sins and the atrocities of the communist agenda and what happened here, something like that.
• 50:07
  And my little daughter, eight years old, third grade said, Mama, how did this happen? And I dragged her little face away from the skulls and I made her look into my eyes and I said, Those in power lied to the people and the people believed them. And by the time the people figured it out, it was too damn late. Let this be a lesson. Don't you ever trust somebody in a position of power simply because they are in power.
• 50:30
  If anything, you distrust them as a baseline until they've proven themselves. Do you hear me? And she said loud and clear. And she is now at the most liberal campus probably in California with some of the most communist leanings. And she has converted her roommate to Christ and another couple of people.
• 50:46
  She goes to fellowship twice a week. She's doing a mission trip to Europe this summer. And when people come up and they're like, Oh, blah, blah, blah, don't you want to join the Young Socialists of America Club? She's like, let me show you a picture of where that leads. So you may think you're going to give your kid a therapy session if you do that.
• 51:04
  I am here to tell you show don't tell a lesson at that age and you never have to preach it again and they will never waver, they will never forget.
• 51:12
  Seth Holehouse: It's such an important point. And I wanna touch on on something you're, you know, discussing as well is that I I so I I've spent a lot of my adult life studying psychology and and personal growth. I've, you know, done you know, gone deep into Tony Robbins and and, you know, various motivational things and, you know, what you call it, the self help stuff. I've learned a lot from it. You know, one of the books that impacted me the most was Psycho Cybernetics.
• 51:34
  You know, written by a I think it was a plastic surgeon, where he discovered that he would give people he'd do this plastic surgery, but he'd a lot of the patients, even if they had this, like, extreme self consciousness about their nose, he'd give them a perfect nose, but it would not go away. And he realized that there is this image they'd have of themselves that was actually it's like their their mind's image, but a lot of his work, you know, end up translating into Olympic athletes that would do their training through visualization. So they would imagine themselves doing the high jump over and over and over again, how that would actually train their body how to do it, because our bodies don't know the difference between reality and imagined reality. And and and so if we're thinking and it's it's I'm so glad you brought this up because it's a tough balance. Because a lot of what I've done is I've tried to expose the plans of the evil.
• 52:23
  I've tried to say, okay, look, this is their depopulation plan. Let's go look at, you know, silent weapons for quiet wars. Let's look at Operation Lockstep. Let's and and they're dark things, and it's easy to walk away from that information thinking, oh gosh, we're screwed. And that's the hard part about it is because I don't think that we are, but I also think that we can't ignore what's out there in front of us.
• 52:46
  We have to understand them. But what was something that I think a lot of people don't really touch is the idea of not necessarily self help, but just self empowerment. Especially, I find that people in a lot of religious circles, they they lump that all together as new age, and they don't wanna look at it. Right? It's like, ah, it's it's it's woo woo new age.
• 53:07
  I don't wanna look at it. Whereas, I I think it's really, really important actually, because our thoughts, our perception of reality, our vision of the future, it affects our action, it affects our health, and it affects so much. And I think that they've really they understand that they've really tried that. It's like, at Hollywood. Right?
• 53:26
  Like, the the vision of the future, I think, is such an important thing. And look at Hollywood. Think about all the movies that you've seen of the future. It's like, okay, Blade Runner, Mad Max, Hunger Games, you know, you keep going and going going. It's like, oh, like, where's that where's that movie that shows the vision of the future where humans overcame the evil and created something much it doesn't exist.
• 53:51
  Right? Because they they've they've they've done that with us. And so it's really important for us to actually shift our thinking and shift our belief of what we can manifest here, you know, and and for me, comes through my own spiritual journey. It's like, okay. God's working through me, and I I think that anything is possible.
• 54:08
  Right? I think this is such a big thing. Even the idea of, you know, there's a lot people that they have the term black pilled. Right? It's like they've studied so much that they're now like, it's hopeless.
• 54:18
  Look at the chemtrails in the sky. They're poisoning our waters. They're poisoning our food. We're all gonna die. You know, there's no we can't defeat this, you know, you know, millennia old death cabal.
• 54:28
  It's it's not possible. And that's exactly what they want. That's why think there is controlled opposition within even the very, very, say, far right conspiratorial. It's to make people feel like there's no hope. So I think that the the balance is how to explore this information and understand it, yet still have hope and still have that attitude of, you know what, we've got this.
• 54:49
  We're going to beat these people. We've got God on our side. We're gonna make it.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: We are. We are. And you do create, and they know this, you create what you think about. You create what you drill. I'm going to give parents and kids drills they can do to become more creative, better at winning, all of this jazz.
• 55:11
  But you know, it's something you should practice. And we're just not told that and it does seem woo woo. And I think a lot of religions are doing themselves, the greater countries at large, a disservice by saying, you have to believe exactly this narrow sect of Christianity that I believe or it's all lost. Nothing's good. There can be no good except as comes from my mouth or my version of what God's mouth said or whatever.
• 55:35
  You know, prayer, they've done studies, you pray for a plant in Sweden, it does better than the unprayed for plant next to it. That's the Christian version of, hey, your mind with a little prayer, help from God above can create good results here on the planet for a plant. Imagine if you're praying for a person who's got more of a brain than a plant does, right, and more of a heart. But you know, transcendental meditation, the Buddhist end of it, their version of prayer. A lot of people don't know in '19, I think '83, I was looking it up while you were talking because I'd forgotten and I was, yeah, was 1980, no, 1993, they had like 4,000 people who were Buddhists and meditated, you know, their version of prayer, descend on DC.
• 56:15
  And they said, We're going to try to lower the crime rate. And they were laughed out of the city by the mayor and the police chief who all said, Al, it's never going to work, it's July. The only thing that's going to lower the crime rate in the July is a freak snowstorm, which is not going to happen. But they did their thing anyway. They prayed in their version of whatever their prayer is in their religion and it lowered the crime rate 48%.
• 56:34
  We know that prayer, even if it's not exactly in our lane of this version of Christianity, just putting your mind and your good beliefs and your, you know, all of channeling God has an effect here on the planet. And we need to do more of that as Christians. You know, we're called to get work done here. We're not supposed to wait for God to come down and rescue us. We're the boots on the ground.
• 56:57
  We are here for such a time as this. This is our season. If you ever read a history book and you're like, Oh, I wish I could have been alive and older during Martin Luther King and been part of the protests that changed America. Or, Oh, I wish I could have been part of the White Rose resistance where they were doing the underground and Schindler's List and Nazi Germany to help the Jews. Guess what, guys?
• 57:16
  This is your moment to shine. Heroes are not made during times of peace. We can win this. We will win this. We have a duty to those who went before, who died on the beaches of Normandy, who were standing on the deck of the USS West Virginia like my grandfather was.
• 57:31
  We owe these men. They gave us this country. Even if you think it's a lost cause. You owe these men who gave you the last fifty years of your life or eighty years of your life or twenty years of your life here with your head going down on a feather pillow every night. You owe it to them.
• 57:44
  And if you can't get on board with that, then by God and by golly, you owe it to your children. And if you don't have children, then you owe it to your nieces and your nephews, or your grandkids, or your neighbor's kids, because they minimally deserve a heck of a lot better planet than we have been giving them. And we can create the beauty that we can see in our mind's eye. It starts here. It ends out there.
• 58:04
  And that is what this course, the Psychology of the Winter is going to be all about. Your five year olds should be coming, I don't know if you knew this, ninety eight percent of five year olds, Seth, test out as geniuses on IQ tests and creativity tests. But by the time we're like an adult, only two percent. What are we losing in that sixteen years? Probably the communist overthrow of our schools is part of that, but it's not all of it.
• 58:24
  That's what I want to restore to the people. I don't know if you've heard this study. They give a bunch of five year olds stiff uncooked pieces of Spaghetti noodles before you put them in the boiling water, the stiff ones, a little bitty marshmallow, a little bitty piece of scotch tape and said, All right, kids, go make the tallest structure you can. Those five year olds built taller structures than a group of MBA students did in the course next door, at which point the experimenters did a Kurt Richter. They were like, That doesn't make sense.
• 58:49
  Let's try it again. Once again, the kindergartners spanked the pants off the MBA students and then they're like, Okay, maybe the MBA kids are uniquely dumb. We're going do it with a group of lawyers. Guess what? The kindergarteners kicked the arse of my people too.
• 59:01
  Then they got the Fortune 500 CEOs in, the Fortune 100 CEOs in, the 800 pound gorilla companies that own the world, the BlackRocks, right? The guys running those companies, The five year olds, one for one, killed it. I'm not talking they built a millimeter taller than the Fortune five hundred guys and the lawyers and the NBAs. We're talking inches taller. What do the five year olds know that we do not know?
• 59:24
  That is what you're going to learn on this course. That is what we are going to use to take the tools that are out there and win this war. Wars and tools and problems are context dependent. If you have a flat tire, Seth, and I give you a knife and a fork, you're screwed. You're going to be changing your flat tire for five years.
• 59:41
  If I give you a tire iron and a jack, you look like a handy kind of guy. You'll probably be done in five or ten minutes. Tools are great, but you have to bring the right tool for that problem. We don't get out of wars with lawsuits and legislation. I hate to say it to you folks.
• 59:56
  We get out of wars taking the hill, having your mind right, going, Okay, and no coach and no general goes, I don't know if we can do it, but we're going to try. Go get them, Tiger. Like that is not what any self respecting coach or a four star general ever said right in front of the most important day of their life. What they said is, You can do it even if they're outgunned by like 400 Da Nang Viet Cong and there's five of them. You can do it.
• 1:00:21
  And you know what? I don't have time because I know we're coming to the top there. There are a million bronze medal, purple heart, silver star, congressional medal of honor, million stories like that. If you're feeling down, go Google them. It will lift your spirits and go, wow, that guy was shot 18 times.
• 1:00:38
  He was bleeding from every hole. His both legs and one arm wasn't working and he still managed to save as an army grunt, a special forces thing that was surrounded, got them all on 18 different Chinook helicopters. And when he finally got the last man in and he got on board, it was a guy in Texas, I'm blanking on his name. When he got back to the base, by the way, he wasn't supposed to go on that mission. He kept volunteering to go into hot landing zones on helicopters that it was so hot they couldn't land.
• 1:01:06
  Finally, said, Put me down a mile out or five miles out. I'll hump and jump my way into the Special Forces team. He got all their paperwork out. He got all of them, even though they were totally surrounded. Some of them were dead, some of them were alive.
• 1:01:19
  He one by one carried him onto the first helicopter. That helicopter got shot down. He called in another helicopter, got him all onboard the second helicopter, the third one. Anyway, he finally gets back to camp after all of this, a half day of hell, like pure hell. They zip him into a body bag.
• 1:01:35
  They thought he was dead. And he goes, and he spits in their face as they're zipping it over. And one of his buddies goes, Hey, I think that's Ray or whatever his name was. Don't think he's dead yet. You can do amazing things.
• 1:01:50
  You can do humanly impossible things if you get your heart and your mind right. And that is why I am teaching this course, it's the Psychology of the Winter. This is how you spell my name. It has extra letters. My mother made my life very hard.
• 1:02:04
  It's L E I G H D U N D A S. And if you go to my website, which is LeighDundas, L E I G H D U N D A S dot com, you can click on the Education tab, which is I think the second or third tab over on that top nav bar. And when you click on the Education tab, it'll tell you more about the course And you and your kids and your great grandma can come do it. Yeah, there you go. No, that's the book one if you go to the education one.
• 1:02:28
  There you go. There's a little video, it's a two minute trailer where you'll hear a little bit about what I've been talking about today. And then the Register Now button is right there. And if you click it, you can take this course online. I repeat, if you are not free this Saturday, May 18, when my course starts because you're planting a church in Madagascar, it doesn't matter.
• 1:02:48
  You can catch it on replay in a week or a month. It's like Netflix. You can Netflix and chill, But instead of supporting the deep state and watching a rerun of Friends, you're going to teach your family and your friends how to save this country, how to win, whether they're playing lacrosse or football accepted, or whether they're winning against the deep state as our kids ten years from now. It is invaluable data. I'm so honored to be teaching it.
• 1:03:10
  Please sign up. It's only $99 for the whole course if you're coming online. And again, you can attend anywhere, anytime, catch it on replay. If you live in Southern California and you want to come in person, so I'm not lecturing this Saturday to a brick wall, I would be eternally grateful. So if you live in Orange County, come in person.
• 1:03:27
  But if you're living where Seth does or in North Carolina where I'm broadcasting from right now, come anyway, come online. If you sign up for the higher dollar value one, your kids can actually get a psychology one hundred one, three or four units, whatever it is, course credit that transfers to their college. And your high schoolers can do dual credit if they need to. But you know, you're old like you and me, you don't need the course credit, just do the $99 1. But that's where you do leadundas.com and just sign up to register now because A, I don't want to be a lonely person on Saturday.
• 1:03:59
  That's my great fear is being alone and talking to a wall. And secondly, I don't need to be a college professor, guys. I got enough jobs right now to choke a horse and then some, so does Seth. So do all the leaders in this fight. I'm doing this because I firmly believe we will win, but we need more warriors on the battlefield and they need to have the right tools and the right tool is not a steak knife to change your flat tire.
• 1:04:19
  So get the tools, get the data, come join me, leadendinous.com, education tab, And golly, Seth, thank you so much for allowing me to come on at the last second to get this word out to the masses. I really appreciate it.
• 1:04:30
  Seth Holehouse: Of course. It's always I mean, we've met in person, and you're the kind of person I could sit down probably talk to for six hours. And I felt like, what happened? Like, did did you go to the bathroom? I mean, it's been six hours.
• 1:04:41
  Like, that's just that's just how it would work, I think. So it's it's such a pleasure having you on. You've got such a wealth of experience, and so many good stories that have shaped who you are and why you do what you do. And you have a very important voice in this fight. And I'll make sure that your the URL, leedunnas.com goes into the description for the show.
• 1:04:59
  So for folks who are listening or watching, they can head over there. I encourage him, check it out. And so Lee, again, thank you for coming on. It's always fun. We didn't cry this show, at least.
• 1:05:09
  Right? And some of these shows, we've we've been in tears together. So this is a much more happy positive show, which is good. And I and I appreciate lots of smiling. I mean, real smiles, though.
• 1:05:17
  Not not the not the fake smiles or fake it till you make it smiles. Real genuine gut laughing and smiles, which is wonderful.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 2: That's right. You got you got to balance it. Sometimes you cry, sometimes you laugh, but you got to do both. Otherwise, you're not well rounded. And if I've not said it yet, I think I said it once, but it deserves a repeat.
• 1:05:33
  You are probably my favorite interviewer, maybe tied, but literally like I just enjoy the heck out of myself. You're genuine. You do a phenomenal job with your show. You have a very genuine and unique and real way of relating not just to the interviewee that brings out the best in us on this chair, but I think to all your guests and your listeners and watchers as well. And don't stop doing what you're doing.
• 1:05:57
  Because guys, if we had had one of these and a rolling camera in the middle of the Holocaust, I don't think Auschwitz would have lived to see another day. So don't ever let go of the microphone. This is the way we win this war is getting the truth out. You can't do that without the microphone. And for that today, Seth, I am eternally grateful.
• 1:06:12
  Thanks for letting me come on board.
• 1:06:13
  Seth Holehouse: Thank you for such kind words. Really appreciate it. It means a lot coming from you because you've done a lot of interviews with a lot of fantastic folks. So it does mean a lot. Thank you.
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 2: Not just saying it. I really mean it, and I do have a comparison standard.
• 1:06:26
  Seth Holehouse: Well, thank you. Well, it's been wonderful. Thank you. Take care. God bless.
• 1:06:30
  I look forward to next time.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: You as well. Take care, Seth.
• 1:06:33
  Seth Holehouse: Bye bye. Thank you.