Latest / The Huddle / 10/06/26 - Hour 1
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Bring it to you on this lovely tuesday game day
- 0:02Speaker 1: in the good land brewers play the padres game three
- 0:04Speaker 1: this evening petco park is going to be electric there
- 0:08Speaker 1: it is going to be a late start so let's
- 0:10Speaker 1: uh plan our naps accordingly and uh next week we
- 0:15Speaker 1: won't have to worry about.
- 0:15Speaker 2: That yeah this is uh this is the day drew
- 0:18Speaker 2: where uh i'm gonna start trying to force feed a
- 0:21Speaker 2: uh a nap to the three-year-old because he has uh
- 0:24Speaker 2: he has been daddy i.
- 0:25Speaker 3: Don't take no nap anymore I don't take a nap anymore.
- 0:28Speaker 3: I'm too old for that. I'm three and a half.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Are you kidding me? I'm three and a half.
- 0:31Speaker 2: Well, I'm 32 and a half. And I'm going to
- 0:34Speaker 2: need at least an hour and a half. So we're
- 0:36Speaker 2: going to need at least some kind of nap here
- 0:38Speaker 2: because this 830 first pitch is.
- 0:42Speaker 3: Going to come later and later than we think.
- 0:44Speaker 4: Yeah, they're playing in the middle of the night no
- 0:45Speaker 4: matter how you see it.
- 0:47Speaker 5: Either we or maybe we just get up in the
- 0:49Speaker 5: middle of the night, one or the other.
- 0:51Speaker 3: Could be.
- 0:52Speaker 1: Now, I had a thought driving in, and, you know,
- 0:55Speaker 1: some things I'll miss about this shift, especially our smart,
- 0:58Speaker 1: good-looking listeners, 5 o'clock lovers.
- 0:59Speaker 3: Some things I won't.
- 1:01Speaker 1: In the pre-dawn hours when you're driving, what makes your
- 1:07Speaker 1: heart rate go up, spike higher? Is it on the
- 1:11Speaker 1: freeway when you're cruising at, you know, 4 a.m speed
- 1:16Speaker 1: and you see in your peripheral vision that squad car
- 1:19Speaker 1: hidden behind a barricade.
- 1:21Speaker 4: Yeah because if he's bored i mean what am i.
- 1:23Speaker 1: That just happened to me again this morning where it's
- 1:25Speaker 1: like i know their hiding spot and yet it still
- 1:27Speaker 1: sneaks up on me all the time every time and
- 1:30Speaker 1: then i look and i'm like uh-oh if he feels
- 1:32Speaker 1: like hooking me i'm getting pulled over no i did
- 1:35Speaker 1: not i was driving 69, 70?
- 1:37Speaker 5: Yep.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Because I try to keep it. Which is the going speed.
- 1:41Speaker 3: No one's passing me. I'm not passing anybody. I was
- 1:43Speaker 3: going to say, you're going by the flow of 4 a.m. traffic.
- 1:45Speaker 3: The flow of traffic.
- 1:46Speaker 1: The speed limit at that time should be 70 because
- 1:49Speaker 1: effectively it is.
- 1:50Speaker 3: What everyone's going is what you're going. There's no dense traffic.
- 1:55Speaker 3: It's not in any way dangerous.
- 1:57Speaker 2: But you do know if that guy is having himself
- 2:00Speaker 2: a morning. And if he sat there and they did
- 2:02Speaker 2: not have the kind of blueberry glazers he planned on
- 2:04Speaker 2: being able to grab.
- 2:05Speaker 3: We are going to have ourselves a problem.
- 2:07Speaker 1: As I drive, and I'm driving, like, I'm about a
- 2:09Speaker 1: quarter mile away. I'm looking in the rear view to
- 2:11Speaker 1: see if he's going to pull out.
- 2:12Speaker 3: I'm like, nope. Thankfully, he's still eating the glazer.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Nothing like that hard punk. So that got me going.
- 2:17Speaker 1: And then I'm doing the math. I'm like, well, it
- 2:19Speaker 1: is only the sixth. So they're not at the end
- 2:21Speaker 1: of the month, the quota thing that you worry about?
- 2:24Speaker 3: Is that true?
- 2:24Speaker 2: Is he a close yard at the end?
- 2:26Speaker 1: I'll have to ask my dad, because my dad was
- 2:28Speaker 1: in law enforcement. He taught the police camp. I'll have
- 2:30Speaker 1: to find out if that's true or not. I always
- 2:32Speaker 1: wonder if that's like a.
- 2:33Speaker 3: I do know.
- 2:33Speaker 1: He did admit to me that early in his career,
- 2:35Speaker 1: when he had to work during Packer games, he was
- 2:37Speaker 1: pissed and write more tickets. Oh, for.
- 2:39Speaker 3: Yeah, you're... If I'm out here, you're going to be.
- 2:42Speaker 3: If you're speeding at all, five over.
- 2:43Speaker 4: Good luck. Now, that.
- 2:46Speaker 1: Your date is not great. Heart palpitates. And then that's
- 2:49Speaker 1: one thing. And usually, okay, heart spiked, back down, normal.
- 2:53Speaker 1: I'm caffeine free, but I don't need it because I
- 2:56Speaker 1: got the flutter going. Then I exit and I start
- 2:59Speaker 1: to work my way to the Megaplex through the residential
- 3:02Speaker 1: area where the Megaplex is located. I know what you're
- 3:05Speaker 1: going to say. And then I see the deer on
- 3:07Speaker 1: the peripheral. I see the deer lurking right off the road.
- 3:11Speaker 1: And I'm like, oh, you dummies, you better not. You
- 3:14Speaker 1: better not.
- 3:14Speaker 3: Just know where you're at.
- 3:15Speaker 1: So that made me like, also, the second heart spike
- 3:19Speaker 1: of the day happened then.
- 3:20Speaker 3: Like, oh, I got two for one today. Yeah, I'm
- 3:23Speaker 3: going to go with Bambi.
- 3:24Speaker 2: Because as much as the police officer is going to
- 3:29Speaker 2: be a fickle conversation, right?
- 3:31Speaker 3: Like, this is not going to be.
- 3:32Speaker 2: Possibly expensive. They're both potentially expensive. Both could be potentially
- 3:36Speaker 2: very expensive. And the one I'm then also going to
- 3:40Speaker 2: have to live with the idea and the vision of
- 3:43Speaker 2: that big old hairy beast rolling up the hood into
- 3:47Speaker 2: the windshield. Or like when my sister hit one, when
- 3:50Speaker 2: I was in high school, it just bounced off the hood,
- 3:52Speaker 2: bounced off the concrete and just started running. But I
- 3:55Speaker 2: keep that vision is in my mind pretty well entrenched,
- 3:59Speaker 2: I think for the rest of my life. So that's
- 4:00Speaker 2: where I'm going to go with the copper. But man,
- 4:03Speaker 2: when Bambi pokes those little two eyes out at you
- 4:05Speaker 2: and you just see it from the corner and you
- 4:08Speaker 2: don't slow at all and you realize he was three
- 4:12Speaker 2: steps and one good blade of grass on the other
- 4:14Speaker 2: side of that concrete away from us both having a
- 4:16Speaker 2: rough morning especially yeah i see every morning drew i
- 4:19Speaker 2: mean when i make that turn on beloit and to
- 4:21Speaker 2: howard although the thing is you know if they're under
- 4:23Speaker 2: the street lights on that intersection you can see them
- 4:26Speaker 2: at the corner like yeah but if you get a
- 4:27Speaker 2: little further but if you get a little further a
- 4:29Speaker 2: couple hundred yards further they're in the and it's thick
- 4:32Speaker 2: there that's where they hang out i see them during
- 4:33Speaker 2: the day walking I was going to say, I don't,
- 4:35Speaker 2: I don't see them hanging out in the streetlights very much.
- 4:38Speaker 3: I see them hanging out away from them.
- 4:39Speaker 5: Luckily old girl was there today, but there's other times
- 4:42Speaker 5: where there's just, you know, they're just hanging out in
- 4:44Speaker 5: the dark and there's like six of them.
- 4:46Speaker 4: And this is about the time, at least I think.
- 4:49Speaker 5: Coming up when the rut starts, I think it Aaron
- 4:51Speaker 5: Tasker and all of our boys back there, but they're
- 4:55Speaker 5: starting to chase each other, you know, for, you know,
- 4:58Speaker 5: that's amorous reasons.
- 4:59Speaker 4: That's the other time of this.
- 5:00Speaker 5: And by the way, you can at least see the
- 5:03Speaker 5: deer somewhat. Cause there's somewhat larger, but wait, wait, wait
- 5:07Speaker 5: to that rafter of Turkey starts rolling through. Cause they were,
- 5:10Speaker 5: they were there on the street yesterday, like 10 of them.
- 5:13Speaker 3: And a good thing I hit the.
- 5:13Speaker 5: Brakes and they roll like a hockey team, like a
- 5:16Speaker 5: hockey team.
- 5:17Speaker 3: They roll deep deer are moving. Yes.
- 5:20Speaker 4: Turkey's are moving. They don't care what you think.
- 5:23Speaker 5: They see some, whatever they're at black walnuts falling from
- 5:25Speaker 5: that tree on the ground. And they're eating those walnuts
- 5:28Speaker 5: and they don't really care.
- 5:30Speaker 1: By the way, kudos to Armand for knowing that a
- 5:33Speaker 1: group of turkeys is not a flock.
- 5:35Speaker 3: It's a rafter. That's incredible.
- 5:37Speaker 2: I was going to say, at 5.08, we had a
- 5:39Speaker 2: rafter of turkeys, and we had the ruck season for deer.
- 5:42Speaker 3: Yeah, that Marquette education. Hot streets here in October. Goodness gracious.
- 5:49Speaker 1: Mutual of Omaha's Wild Kingdom Wildlife with the huddle.
- 5:52Speaker 2: Hey, we said you were going to get something in
- 5:54Speaker 2: this 5 o'clock hour that you did not plan on.
- 5:56Speaker 3: That's very true. Since it's expiring, we got to cash in.
- 5:58Speaker 3: Very true.
- 5:59Speaker 5: Yes, indeed.
- 6:00Speaker 1: And the thing is, when we do make the flip
- 6:02Speaker 1: and the clocks turn, like I said yesterday, our clocks
- 6:05Speaker 1: are turning a couple weeks early. Because if you missed
- 6:07Speaker 1: the memo, this is our last week of doing this
- 6:10Speaker 1: shift from 5 a.m.
- 6:10Speaker 3: To 8 a.m.
- 6:11Speaker 1: This show is moving to 2 p.m. to 5 p.m.
- 6:15Speaker 1: weekdays starting Monday, October 12th. But then when we leave
- 6:18Speaker 1: in the winter, it'll be dark again. So we'll be
- 6:20Speaker 1: dealing with the same kind of deer issues. 100%. I
- 6:25Speaker 1: just want to thank everybody. I'm sure you guys, too. 95%
- 6:30Speaker 1: positive reactions to our move. People are very encouraged.
- 6:33Speaker 3: They're glad.
- 6:33Speaker 4: Wasn't that wonderful to see?
- 6:35Speaker 1: I got a couple of some of our old friends,
- 6:37Speaker 1: my buddy Chef Adam Pavlak, like the first text I
- 6:40Speaker 1: got at like 9 o'clock in the morning.
- 6:41Speaker 3: That's what I like to hear. Hey, great. I can
- 6:43Speaker 3: come back on. Like, let's go. Now we're talking.
- 6:46Speaker 2: Yes.
- 6:47Speaker 1: And then I got a text from our pal Aaron Nagler.
- 6:49Speaker 1: Congratulations on the time change. I can join you guys again.
- 6:51Speaker 2: And I.
- 6:52Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go.
- 6:53Speaker 5: I saw Nagler throwing up screenshots of DMs on Twitter.
- 6:57Speaker 3: That was the text.
- 6:57Speaker 2: He'll be very happy for Kiriachi Radio, the podcast, not
- 7:00Speaker 2: being a 9 a.m.
- 7:01Speaker 3: Production anymore. Matt Miller, I heard from, said, come on.
- 7:04Speaker 3: That's part of our, yeah.
- 7:05Speaker 4: That'll feel guilty, ask you to come on hour one.
- 7:07Speaker 6: Exactly.
- 7:08Speaker 1: We have lots of friends, folks, believe it or not,
- 7:10Speaker 1: and they like to come on with us, and we
- 7:12Speaker 1: just didn't want to ask them to do it this
- 7:13Speaker 1: early because, you know.
- 7:15Speaker 3: We know that we wouldn't want to get up early
- 7:16Speaker 3: to just jump on the radio show.
- 7:18Speaker 2: And Drew, you're right. It was 95% positive. And the
- 7:22Speaker 2: slight ones that were disappointed were not frustrated and angry.
- 7:25Speaker 2: It's well, dang, that kind of stinks because the way
- 7:28Speaker 2: and when I can listen, this is my pocket, but
- 7:31Speaker 2: good for you guys.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Congratulations. And hopefully it works out.
- 7:33Speaker 2: And I think that was the one part where we
- 7:36Speaker 2: do a lot of this stuff together, whether or not
- 7:39Speaker 2: it always feels as much. This is as much of
- 7:42Speaker 2: a listener show as our show. It's all of our show.
- 7:45Speaker 2: And whenever you can consume it, you'll be able to.
- 7:47Speaker 2: And it's very nice to know that, you know, one
- 7:51Speaker 2: of the biggest reasons why this is happening is is
- 7:53Speaker 2: because of the amount of people that followed us to
- 7:55Speaker 2: 5 a.m. Hopefully there'll be a ton that follow us
- 7:57Speaker 2: to 2 to 5 p.m., and then who knows? Because
- 8:01Speaker 2: as much as I got out of it, too, and
- 8:04Speaker 2: very happy that our folks on 1070 and Madison will know,
- 8:07Speaker 2: we are doing the show on 1070 Madison.
- 8:09Speaker 6: Oh, yeah.
- 8:09Speaker 2: We are doing the show on 1070 Madison, and people
- 8:12Speaker 2: in Madison are like, thank goodness, now there's finally something
- 8:15Speaker 2: sports to listen to in the afternoon.
- 8:18Speaker 3: We're here for you. We are here for you.
- 8:20Speaker 2: And Milwaukee, since there hasn't been anything good to listen
- 8:23Speaker 2: to in the afternoon on sports, now you got something
- 8:25Speaker 2: there as well.
- 8:26Speaker 3: Now you go. Yeah. We're back at it. So kudos. Kudos, everybody.
- 8:30Speaker 3: Thank you. We appreciate it.
- 8:32Speaker 1: And again, it's not like we're not happy to be
- 8:35Speaker 1: abandoning the 5 o'clock club and stuff.
- 8:37Speaker 3: It's just that we're, you know. But for our lifestyles,
- 8:41Speaker 3: it is going to be.
- 8:41Speaker 1: Better to be able to not have to plan naps
- 8:44Speaker 1: to watch an 8 o'clock first pitch.
- 8:45Speaker 4: That's a great example.
- 8:46Speaker 3: To be able to, you know.
- 8:48Speaker 2: Watch the end of games, potentially attend games, hit some
- 8:51Speaker 2: West Coast games.
- 8:53Speaker 4: And we want to give you the best of us.
- 8:55Speaker 1: And the best offshoot of this is that we can
- 8:57Speaker 1: actually get out and do shows like we do. I
- 9:00Speaker 1: love the Pottawatomie show on Thursday, the Thursday Night Huddle,
- 9:03Speaker 1: the Pottawatomie sports book in the annex. We'll be there
- 9:05Speaker 1: again this Thursday from 5 to 7 p.m. Well, now
- 9:08Speaker 1: we'll be there, you know, earlier. But it's a chance
- 9:11Speaker 1: to get out and see people in person because when
- 9:13Speaker 1: we're just three guys in a room, sometimes you forget
- 9:16Speaker 1: there's people out there. You can actually see them and
- 9:19Speaker 1: interact and find out what they think. And they give
- 9:21Speaker 1: you feedback on the shows and stuff that we talk about.
- 9:24Speaker 1: So stuff that.
- 9:25Speaker 3: They remember us talking about. It's just better.
- 9:27Speaker 5: So it's nice to put a face in the name, too,
- 9:29Speaker 5: when you're out there and you come say hi to us.
- 9:31Speaker 5: Charlie Cutting Greens has been texting into us the whole time,
- 9:34Speaker 5: but seeing him at Potawatomi the other day was fantastic.
- 9:37Speaker 3: Getting some Vegas stories was phenomenal.
- 9:39Speaker 5: Some great stories about Vegas and the Vegas Armenians that
- 9:42Speaker 5: he knows.
- 9:42Speaker 4: I mean, it was just fantastic. So, you know, those
- 9:45Speaker 4: are the interactions we live for that we enjoy.
- 9:47Speaker 5: The reason we do this, obviously, because we love to
- 9:49Speaker 5: do it, but to connect with the community, with the audience,
- 9:51Speaker 5: with you guys, and to know that. So it's really fantastic,
- 9:54Speaker 5: and glad to be able to do it. And we'll
- 9:56Speaker 5: be a lot of me longer now that's right with
- 9:57Speaker 5: those nights.
- 9:58Speaker 1: Oh my goodness yeah that's a bummer all right 877-794-1973
- 10:03Speaker 1: gets you to the nicoletlaw.com talk and text line brewers
- 10:07Speaker 1: padres today um the other side of the bracket is
- 10:12Speaker 1: trending in an interesting way with the Yankees on the ropes.
- 10:14Speaker 1: The Rays take game two. The Yankees committed five errors,
- 10:17Speaker 1: and then there was a scoring change, so it was
- 10:19Speaker 1: only four. They butchered the ball all over the field.
- 10:22Speaker 3: Not great, Bob.
- 10:23Speaker 1: And the White Sox on the brink of making it
- 10:26Speaker 1: to the ALCS.
- 10:28Speaker 5: What a shocking development. If anyone told you that a
- 10:30Speaker 5: couple years ago, you would have said, what? A couple
- 10:32Speaker 5: years ago on opening weekend.
- 10:33Speaker 3: I was going to, yeah. Yes, I guess you're right.
- 10:35Speaker 2: Sorry, when Murph went up to the podium and said,
- 10:37Speaker 2: I'm telling you guys, this White Sox team is going
- 10:39Speaker 2: to be good.
- 10:40Speaker 5: Pfft.
- 10:40Speaker 3: Right. All right, Patrick.
- 10:43Speaker 2: We appreciate the confidence that you have in that old
- 10:46Speaker 2: ball club. But here they are on the doorstep of
- 10:48Speaker 2: the ALCS, and they go down 2-0 yesterday. Game couldn't
- 10:52Speaker 2: have started better for the Guardians, and they still just
- 10:54Speaker 2: stayed in it, hung in it, and ended up finding
- 10:56Speaker 2: a way to win.
- 10:57Speaker 5: And found a way to win when the Guardians had
- 10:58Speaker 5: a couple close calls late. You know, they had one
- 11:01Speaker 5: off the top of the wall that would have tied it.
- 11:03Speaker 5: It became a triple. But, hey, the last out was
- 11:05Speaker 5: to the wall. The pale hosiers, man, from the Windy City.
- 11:08Speaker 5: Pretty impressive because, you know, I know every time they win,
- 11:11Speaker 5: it annoys Cubs fans even more.
- 11:13Speaker 4: I'm still thinking about that. Yeah, I am. I'm happy
- 11:16Speaker 4: about that. So it was a weak AL Central, but hey,
- 11:18Speaker 4: they take advantage.
- 11:19Speaker 5: And now they have a chance to clinch at home
- 11:21Speaker 5: a postseason series for the first time, guys, in 126 years.
- 11:24Speaker 3: That's pretty amazing. You call them the Pale Hosers? Well,
- 11:27Speaker 3: you know, White Sox, Pale Hosers.
- 11:29Speaker 4: You like that?
- 11:30Speaker 3: The Pale Hose. Boy, he's on his R on it,
- 11:32Speaker 3: but it's Pale Hose for years.
- 11:34Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 11:35Speaker 3: Pale Hose. Got it. Okay. Yeah, that makes a lot
- 11:37Speaker 3: more sense. Pale Hose.
- 11:39Speaker 1: Wow.
- 11:39Speaker 3: Phenomenal.
- 11:40Speaker 1: And then tonight, while we're waiting for the Brewers' first pitch,
- 11:43Speaker 1: we get to see the Dodgers and Atlanta Dodgers going
- 11:46Speaker 1: on the road, facing Chris Sale, tied 1-1 with a
- 11:50Speaker 1: chance to go down 2-1. And they lost home field,
- 11:53Speaker 1: and they're at Truist Park. So the bracket's getting interesting, boys.
- 11:57Speaker 2: And I don't know how you feel about it, Drew,
- 11:59Speaker 2: because I read some kind of Dave Roberts message of
- 12:03Speaker 2: they set out their series line or their, their series
- 12:07Speaker 2: rotation with the NLCS in mind.
- 12:10Speaker 3: I bet they did.
- 12:10Speaker 2: I mean, like, I don't know what here is Bob
- 12:12Speaker 2: Nightingale said it on October 3rd, Dave Roberts said the
- 12:15Speaker 2: rotation order of Scooble Snell and Yamamoto was put in
- 12:19Speaker 2: place with the NLCS in mind. That's a nice way
- 12:22Speaker 2: to live, to just plan on being able to know
- 12:24Speaker 2: that you're going to go on to the next round.
- 12:26Speaker 2: I don't think that they were planning on getting curd
- 12:29Speaker 2: in the second game of that series where, you know, the,
- 12:32Speaker 2: the Braves just bullpen them. And that was a raker
- 12:36Speaker 2: Roy Kerr. My man's been phenomenal to start out. He
- 12:40Speaker 2: was an opener in the wildcard series opener there in
- 12:43Speaker 2: game two.
- 12:44Speaker 3: They snatch it back.
- 12:45Speaker 2: And now you get what usually would be a game
- 12:48Speaker 2: one with two aces and two of the best guys
- 12:50Speaker 2: in ball on game three to start up basically a
- 12:53Speaker 2: three game series. I mean, I can't wait to see
- 12:55Speaker 2: that one and let that go as long as possible.
- 12:59Speaker 3: One of these games hit into like 16 or 17 innings.
- 13:02Speaker 2: And then you take care of your business tonight and that, uh,
- 13:05Speaker 2: and that little problem in San Diego and get yourself
- 13:07Speaker 2: onto another mini bi-week.
- 13:08Speaker 3: It's going to be nice.
- 13:10Speaker 1: So yeah, we got, you know, we gotta, we have
- 13:13Speaker 1: to nap today to get ready. And then, uh, but
- 13:16Speaker 1: I'll be napping again tomorrow. Tomorrow will be a double
- 13:19Speaker 1: header for me because, um, well, we'll see.
- 13:22Speaker 3: It could, might be a double header.
- 13:23Speaker 1: If the brewers don't prevail tonight and sweep, um, We'll
- 13:27Speaker 1: have another game late, 9 o'clock start tomorrow. And tomorrow night,
- 13:30Speaker 1: one of my favorite artists is coming to town, playing
- 13:32Speaker 1: Shank Hall, Rhett Miller, lead singer of the Old 97s,
- 13:35Speaker 1: longtime friend of the show. When I was in Afternoons
- 13:38Speaker 1: last time, he was our Cowboys correspondent because he's a
- 13:42Speaker 1: Cowboys fan.
- 13:43Speaker 3: I like that, right in time.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Not only is he a Cowboys fan, before his family,
- 13:50Speaker 1: his paternal grandfather founded the Cowboys, basically.
- 13:53Speaker 5: Wow.
- 13:53Speaker 3: Interesting cat. Yeah, so... That was back in the day.
- 13:57Speaker 3: So Rhett Miller's playing Shank Hall.
- 13:59Speaker 1: And then he's playing Shank Hall on Wednesday night and
- 14:02Speaker 1: then playing Chicago on Thursday and Friday and Saturday. He's
- 14:05Speaker 1: playing in Spring Green, kind of outside of Madison at
- 14:10Speaker 1: a place that we can't name the venue.
- 14:13Speaker 3: It's the Blank Barn. Might rhyme with hitty.
- 14:16Speaker 1: Great name for an intimate performance venue.
- 14:21Speaker 4: Very intimate. Save harbor until six.
- 14:23Speaker 6: Yes.
- 14:23Speaker 3: Well, that's good.
- 14:24Speaker 1: So, Brett is playing three shows in the area. And,
- 14:29Speaker 1: you know, I geek out about music. And I've known
- 14:31Speaker 1: Brett a long time. And I've interviewed him several times.
- 14:35Speaker 1: And he's been just a good friend. And I love
- 14:38Speaker 1: it when he comes to town. And I had a
- 14:39Speaker 1: chance to catch up with him. And we're going to
- 14:41Speaker 1: spin through that conversation next. So buckle up. This is
- 14:46Speaker 1: indulgence for me, you boys. Thank you, Billy and Armin,
- 14:49Speaker 1: for letting me indulge and scratch my musical itch here.
- 14:52Speaker 3: I want to go to the barn. Well, yeah, no doubt.
- 14:56Speaker 1: We will have my conversation with Rhett Miller of the
- 14:59Speaker 1: Old 97s, who's playing shows locally.
- 15:01Speaker 3: Shank Hall on Wednesday night.
- 15:03Speaker 1: And Peter Jess, the proprietor of Shank Hall, has told
- 15:06Speaker 1: me if the Brewers have a game, he's going to
- 15:07Speaker 1: move the start time of the show up.
- 15:09Speaker 3: An hour. Smart man.
- 15:11Speaker 1: Turn it into a doubleheader so that then Rhett will
- 15:13Speaker 1: be done by like 9.15, 9.30.
- 15:15Speaker 2: One of us.
- 15:16Speaker 1: And then you won't miss that much of a game.
- 15:17Speaker 1: It'll be a natural doubleheader. So that is all pending,
- 15:21Speaker 1: but our conversation with Rhett Miller is up next.
- 15:23Speaker 3: You're in the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin.
- 15:29Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen welcome back to the huddle fox sports
- 15:31Speaker 1: radio wisconsin drew olson armin sarian and bill schmidt we
- 15:34Speaker 1: welcome a special guest one of my favorite creatives in
- 15:37Speaker 1: the world front man for the old 97 solo artist
- 15:40Speaker 1: extraordinaire visiting milwaukee on wednesday to play at shank hall
- 15:44Speaker 1: and then the madison area for the weekend it is
- 15:46Speaker 1: ret miller it's miller time in the huddle ret nice
- 15:50Speaker 1: to see you nice to talk to you again my
- 15:51Speaker 1: friend hi drew how are you doing man fantastic i
- 15:55Speaker 1: was just looking through some old stuff and i realized
- 15:57Speaker 1: that the first time we did an interview was almost
- 15:59Speaker 1: 20 years ago you were getting ready to play shank
- 16:01Speaker 1: hall and it was this time of year i mean
- 16:04Speaker 1: you must love the midwest in october and i said
- 16:06Speaker 1: hey you're gonna it was it was september i think
- 16:08Speaker 1: i take that back and i'm like hey you're gonna
- 16:09Speaker 1: go uh you were gonna play wrigley you're gonna play
- 16:12Speaker 1: uh chicago first and i was like you're gonna go
- 16:14Speaker 1: to wrigley field at all for a game you said
- 16:16Speaker 1: no i'd love to go to a packer's And you
- 16:18Speaker 1: ended up going to a Packers game with some guys
- 16:20Speaker 1: that I know that weekend.
- 16:21Speaker 3: And that was like 20 years ago.
- 16:22Speaker 1: You guys were just about to put out Blame It
- 16:24Speaker 1: On Gravity. And you were doing the solo thing. And
- 16:28Speaker 1: that was almost 20 years ago, man.
- 16:30Speaker 6: What a great memory. Yeah, I took my son, who
- 16:32Speaker 6: is now a man in his 20s, just living in
- 16:35Speaker 6: New York City. But what a memory getting to go
- 16:38Speaker 6: see a game at Lambeau. I was the game that
- 16:41Speaker 6: got Wade Phillips fired, if you'll remember.
- 16:44Speaker 3: Yes, indeed.
- 16:45Speaker 6: Yeah. And ever since then, the Cowboys have just been
- 16:48Speaker 6: experiencing like unmitigated success. It's been a nonstop avalanche of winning.
- 16:54Speaker 3: I love the sarcasm here. It's well suited.
- 16:59Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 17:00Speaker 1: Well, Packers are struggling and it's like uncharted territory in
- 17:03Speaker 1: these parts. So now it's like, you think we've got
- 17:05Speaker 1: a bad, just imagine being a Cowboys fan like Rhett.
- 17:08Speaker 6: Seriously. That's the worst. My bandmates hate me because I'm out.
- 17:13Speaker 6: I'm just like, guys, I'm out. I can't take Jerry
- 17:14Speaker 6: Jones for one more minute. I'm shopping for a new team.
- 17:17Speaker 6: For a while, I thought it was Houston, and that
- 17:20Speaker 6: made them so angry.
- 17:21Speaker 3: Like, I don't know.
- 17:22Speaker 6: Maybe, I don't know. Who should I be rooting for?
- 17:25Speaker 6: Don't say the Packers.
- 17:26Speaker 3: I won't say the Packers.
- 17:29Speaker 1: We might have to find an adoptive team, too, if
- 17:32Speaker 1: this continues, if this struggles.
- 17:33Speaker 3: It won't be the Bears. That's for damn sure.
- 17:35Speaker 1: I know you spent some time in Chicago, but I
- 17:37Speaker 1: can't handle that.
- 17:40Speaker 3: That's a good question. Jacksonville? They're kind of new.
- 17:43Speaker 6: I mean, I live in New York and I obviously
- 17:45Speaker 6: never root for the Giants, but maybe I root for
- 17:47Speaker 6: the Jets. Are they good now? Is that happening?
- 17:50Speaker 3: Not yet. They're still, you know, I play the Packers tough,
- 17:52Speaker 3: but they're not good yet. They're not great. Yeah, I heard.
- 17:56Speaker 1: Well, I thought after training camp, I thought you and
- 17:58Speaker 1: Ken have decided that the Cowboys are going to win
- 18:00Speaker 1: the Super Bowl this year.
- 18:02Speaker 6: Yeah, I did write that in Rolling Stone, but I've
- 18:05Speaker 6: walked that back a little bit.
- 18:07Speaker 3: Yeah, I can see why. All right, let's talk music.
- 18:10Speaker 1: But first of all, you, I mean, back when I
- 18:13Speaker 1: used to cover baseball, I thought I was a road
- 18:15Speaker 1: warrior because I spent like between 90 and 100 days
- 18:17Speaker 1: a year on the road. You just came off of
- 18:21Speaker 1: a spring summer tour with the old 97s. And now
- 18:24Speaker 1: you got to get right back out of the house.
- 18:25Speaker 1: Is everything okay at home, Red?
- 18:28Speaker 6: Well, it's funny you ask. I've now, I'm an empty nester.
- 18:31Speaker 6: So I'm allowed to leave home without traumatizing a young person.
- 18:35Speaker 3: There you go.
- 18:36Speaker 6: Okay.
- 18:36Speaker 1: That's, that's a, that is a part of the rock
- 18:38Speaker 1: and roll curve, right? Like now you can guilt free
- 18:41Speaker 1: on the road. Cause your wife probably, if you're home,
- 18:43Speaker 1: it's okay. If you're not, it's okay.
- 18:45Speaker 6: Yeah. I am also into my fifth consecutive year of
- 18:48Speaker 6: paying for a kid in college. So it's like, I
- 18:51Speaker 6: got a jam.
- 18:52Speaker 1: I got to work.
- 18:52Speaker 3: That'll get you as much as possible.
- 18:54Speaker 1: So coming back to venerable Shank Hall, you played Milwaukee plenty,
- 18:57Speaker 1: both solo and with the band was, what is it
- 18:59Speaker 1: about this market?
- 19:01Speaker 3: You seem to always draw a crowd.
- 19:03Speaker 1: You have people who, uh, have seen you many times
- 19:06Speaker 1: over the years and going back to the globe days
- 19:08Speaker 1: on North Avenue. And then you have people that are
- 19:10Speaker 1: new that just discovered you.
- 19:13Speaker 6: There's a funny thing that happens when musicians talk, you know,
- 19:17Speaker 6: it's always, what are the coolest towns? I mean, the
- 19:20Speaker 6: best market is a good question because people talk about
- 19:23Speaker 6: where do people show up for your show? And Milwaukee
- 19:27Speaker 6: at some point in the last however many years became
- 19:29Speaker 6: just a really good market, which is nice. But for me,
- 19:33Speaker 6: the secret is, The Milwaukee is actually one of the
- 19:36Speaker 6: coolest towns in America. And it doesn't get the pub
- 19:39Speaker 6: that like Austin, Seattle, Nashville. I just think there's something sneaky,
- 19:45Speaker 6: amazing about Milwaukee. And it's one of the few places
- 19:48Speaker 6: I'm like, I could, live there.
- 19:50Speaker 1: I love to hear that. See, that warms the cockles.
- 19:52Speaker 1: That's great PR. You're also big in Madison. You got
- 19:55Speaker 1: Shank Hall on Wednesday night, Chicago on Thursday, and then
- 19:59Speaker 1: a couple of shows at a venue who I can't
- 20:00Speaker 1: name on the radio because of FCC regulations, but it's
- 20:03Speaker 1: a barn in Spring Green, a bleepy barn in Spring Green.
- 20:07Speaker 6: Yes. And from what I can gather, it's a very
- 20:11Speaker 6: cool venue. People love it. I guess both of the
- 20:14Speaker 6: shows are already sold out. But it's like it is
- 20:18Speaker 6: not the adjective that we can't say on the radio
- 20:20Speaker 6: that's being used to describe it in its title. It's
- 20:23Speaker 6: actually a kick ass place.
- 20:25Speaker 1: Our listeners in that area in the 608 area code
- 20:28Speaker 1: will they'll know what.
- 20:29Speaker 3: We're talking about. And I'm sure they've probably seen shows there. Um,
- 20:33Speaker 3: your solo shows are, it's not the coffee house.
- 20:36Speaker 1: It's not a guy in the corner of a Panera bread,
- 20:38Speaker 1: you know, working stuff out. Um, there's a rock element
- 20:43Speaker 1: and a physicality to your solo shows that people might
- 20:46Speaker 1: not expect. Maybe not as much as jumping off of
- 20:49Speaker 1: the drum kit, uh, at a 97 show, but you
- 20:53Speaker 1: do work up a sweat and generally the audience does
- 20:55Speaker 1: as well. Has it always been that way when you
- 20:57Speaker 1: played out or is that you've been playing, you know,
- 21:00Speaker 1: since you were about 14 or 15 playing, you know,
- 21:02Speaker 1: Solo shows, right?
- 21:04Speaker 6: Yeah, my earliest stuff was all in high school. I
- 21:07Speaker 6: would play, I would open for punk rock bands around Dallas,
- 21:11Speaker 6: you know, when the Lords of the New Church came through,
- 21:13Speaker 6: Red Cross. I'd be a little teenage kid with an
- 21:16Speaker 6: acoustic guitar. But I just, I feel like for me,
- 21:20Speaker 6: it's a binary thing. Like I'm either not doing anything
- 21:24Speaker 6: or I'm on stage just giving 100%. And it's just
- 21:29Speaker 6: who I am, man. I don't know how... I always
- 21:31Speaker 6: tell myself, all right, just chill out tonight. Take it easy.
- 21:35Speaker 6: You don't have to rock so hard. They're going to
- 21:37Speaker 6: be happy no matter what. And I get up there
- 21:39Speaker 6: and it's just like, I can't help it. This is
- 21:41Speaker 6: what I do.
- 21:42Speaker 3: That's what they used to say about Giannis.
- 21:43Speaker 1: It didn't matter if they were playing an exhibition game
- 21:46Speaker 1: in Brookings, South Dakota. He was going so hard that
- 21:48Speaker 1: they couldn't protect him from himself. He's just going to
- 21:51Speaker 1: go that hard. Now that you've had throat surgery and
- 21:54Speaker 1: your voice is titanium, you can play these shows every night.
- 21:59Speaker 1: Aren't there some shows where you open for the 97s
- 22:02Speaker 1: playing solo stuff? Isn't that that's happened before, right?
- 22:06Speaker 6: I mean, I do, especially when I have a new
- 22:08Speaker 6: solo record out there, I'll talk them into letting me
- 22:10Speaker 6: open the show. And yeah, it's a lot. It's like
- 22:13Speaker 6: three hours of screaming, basically. But I don't know. What
- 22:17Speaker 6: else am I going to be doing? Watching Love Island?
- 22:19Speaker 1: I was going to say, who does that?
- 22:23Speaker 3: Who opens for themselves?
- 22:24Speaker 1: Unless it's a Halloween gag or something. You guys do
- 22:27Speaker 1: that as a gag. you know, and come out in
- 22:29Speaker 1: costume and play, you know, surf music or something or
- 22:33Speaker 1: Beach Boys covers or become a tribute band.
- 22:36Speaker 6: Okay, that's a good idea. I like that. I'll use that.
- 22:41Speaker 1: I once saw U2 at the Hoosier Dome on a
- 22:44Speaker 1: Halloween night and they came out and they made this announcement.
- 22:47Speaker 3: It seems so stark, like U2' s plane has been delayed.
- 22:50Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, the show will be delayed.
- 22:51Speaker 1: And Los Lobos and Milwaukee's own Bodine's were on the
- 22:55Speaker 1: bill opening. But the band before them was like, we're
- 22:58Speaker 1: a local band from Indianapolis.
- 22:59Speaker 3: U2 is going to be late.
- 23:00Speaker 1: And it was, they called themselves the Dalton Brothers. And
- 23:04Speaker 1: they played like three or four country songs. And the
- 23:06Speaker 1: people up front were going nuts. They didn't know the
- 23:07Speaker 1: video on in a stadium of 75,000 people. People up
- 23:10Speaker 1: front were going nuts because they could see it was
- 23:12Speaker 1: Bono and The Edge and Adam and Larry. They opened
- 23:15Speaker 1: for themselves.
- 23:15Speaker 3: In costume, incognito. And it was one of the most
- 23:18Speaker 3: badass things I've ever seen.
- 23:20Speaker 6: Pretty cool.
- 23:21Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 23:21Speaker 1: So next time you guys have a show on Halloween,
- 23:23Speaker 1: but you guys tend to play out in the summer.
- 23:24Speaker 1: Is that one of the things about Being an established band,
- 23:27Speaker 1: you get to pick when you go out?
- 23:28Speaker 6: I feel like I'm always playing because if the band's
- 23:31Speaker 6: on tour, I feel like we do the East Coast
- 23:33Speaker 6: in the spring and then the West Coast in the winter.
- 23:37Speaker 6: I don't know, man. I just show up where they
- 23:40Speaker 6: tell me and I do the thing. But yeah, I
- 23:43Speaker 6: have very little control over it. I should probably look
- 23:46Speaker 6: into exerting more. I am the lead singer. Wow.
- 23:49Speaker 3: You probably should. But the thing is though, like there's two.
- 23:52Speaker 1: Schools of thought in the summer, it's all festivals and
- 23:55Speaker 1: there's millions of play. You play outside and you know,
- 24:02Speaker 1: you know, as a friend of mine says, anything that's
- 24:06Speaker 1: outside in Wisconsin in the summer, if there's a parking lot,
- 24:08Speaker 1: people will stand around and drink.
- 24:10Speaker 3: So it's like, doesn't, you know, you can put anything
- 24:12Speaker 3: up there.
- 24:13Speaker 1: Puppet shows, people will withdraw because people like to go
- 24:15Speaker 1: drink outside.
- 24:16Speaker 3: But once it starts to.
- 24:18Speaker 1: Get cold and school is back in and people are,
- 24:21Speaker 1: you know, kind of moving indoors, there's an appeal to.
- 24:24Speaker 3: Doing that too.
- 24:24Speaker 1: There's, if you're a good band and a good artist,
- 24:26Speaker 1: people will come and find you, but that there is
- 24:29Speaker 1: that kind of school of thought like, Hey, let's go out.
- 24:32Speaker 3: When people are looking for something to do inside. Cause
- 24:34Speaker 3: around these parts, right.
- 24:36Speaker 1: You know, it's a little bit different in the Hudson Valley,
- 24:38Speaker 1: but the nice weather is precious in these parts. So
- 24:41Speaker 1: we maximize, we go, we, summer's turned up to 11 here.
- 24:47Speaker 6: I will say that when you come through, because in
- 24:49Speaker 6: the earliest days of the band, we used to tour
- 24:51Speaker 6: a lot, especially through Wisconsin and Chicago in the winter.
- 24:57Speaker 6: People are so grateful to have something to do in
- 25:01Speaker 6: the winter to get them out of the house. They
- 25:05Speaker 6: will show up. Our first gig in Milwaukee was at
- 25:07Speaker 6: a place called the Globe Theater. We pulled in five
- 25:10Speaker 6: people And we ended up owing more on our bar
- 25:16Speaker 6: tab than we made that night at the club. But
- 25:18Speaker 6: somebody extended an invitation that we could sleep on the
- 25:21Speaker 6: floor at the what's the sausage, the big sausage.
- 25:25Speaker 2: Yes.
- 25:26Speaker 6: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we slept on the floor of
- 25:29Speaker 6: the sausage company and, you know, it was pretty great.
- 25:33Speaker 3: We keep coming back. You keep coming back.
- 25:35Speaker 1: Your history in Madison is well documented, too, of the
- 25:38Speaker 1: guys who founded the Onion became friends, right?
- 25:42Speaker 6: Yeah, we used to sleep in the church where they
- 25:44Speaker 6: all lived when they started that newspaper. I always would
- 25:46Speaker 6: call the pool table because I figured it was cleaner
- 25:50Speaker 6: than the floor or the couch. It was hard, though.
- 25:53Speaker 3: Oh, it's hard. Do you miss those days?
- 25:55Speaker 1: You look back and you wonder how you could do
- 25:57Speaker 1: it as a man now, empty nester who's raised two children.
- 26:00Speaker 1: Do you marvel at the things you ate and the
- 26:03Speaker 1: way you lived?
- 26:05Speaker 6: You know, I do. I don't miss them, but And
- 26:08Speaker 6: I've never been nostalgic, so I usually don't think about
- 26:10Speaker 6: them at all. But in the last six, eight months,
- 26:13Speaker 6: the old 97s have been the subject of a documentary,
- 26:17Speaker 6: a film crew following us around for months. And then
- 26:21Speaker 6: in the last month or so, I've been going through
- 26:23Speaker 6: all these old photos and videos for the documentary filmmakers
- 26:27Speaker 6: to try and give them stuff for their movie. And honestly,
- 26:30Speaker 6: it's such great memories. I have so many great memories
- 26:34Speaker 6: of the early days in the band. And it was
- 26:37Speaker 6: squalid and it was uncomfortable. And we would, you know,
- 26:40Speaker 6: we would lose, we would, I remember a night sleeping,
- 26:43Speaker 6: we were on our way to a gig in the
- 26:44Speaker 6: Midwest and the van got stuck in a snow drift
- 26:48Speaker 6: and we just had to try and not freeze. So
- 26:51Speaker 6: we would keep the engine on until it would start
- 26:53Speaker 6: to fill the van up with carbon monoxide. And then
- 26:57Speaker 6: we would turn the engine off and let it open
- 26:59Speaker 6: the windows. But then it would get so cold, we'd
- 27:01Speaker 6: have to go back and forth throughout the night and
- 27:03Speaker 6: try not to die. And I think we had a
- 27:04Speaker 6: bottle of Duars, which we didn't drink, that some club
- 27:08Speaker 6: had given us that kept us warm, I guess. It
- 27:12Speaker 6: was awful, and it was the best.
- 27:15Speaker 3: Both things can be true.
- 27:17Speaker 1: Rhett Miller joining us from the Old 97 Solo Show, Wednesday, Shank.
- 27:20Speaker 3: Hall, Farwell Avenue in Milwaukee. And of course, on the weekend,
- 27:24Speaker 3: Spring Green at the Bleepy Barn. Look it up, springgreenbarn.com.
- 27:29Speaker 3: You know, Expletive Barn. It's a great name for a venue.
- 27:31Speaker 3: I've got to get a T-shirt, I think.
- 27:34Speaker 6: Yeah. The S.E.
- 27:36Speaker 5: Barn.
- 27:37Speaker 3: The S.E.
- 27:37Speaker 1: Barn.
- 27:37Speaker 3: Yes, that's it. Rhymes with Hitty.
- 27:40Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 27:41Speaker 3: Too funny.
- 27:42Speaker 6: And just so folks know, you know, most of the
- 27:45Speaker 6: show's old 97 songs. I think some people think I'm
- 27:47Speaker 6: going to only play songs off solo records that I've made,
- 27:50Speaker 6: and I'm not a monster. I get it. So most
- 27:52Speaker 6: of the songs are 97s. There's a few solo songs
- 27:56Speaker 6: snuck in there, maybe a random cover here and there.
- 27:58Speaker 1: Yeah. You have enough now, you have enough of a
- 28:01Speaker 1: solo catalog that I imagine it's hard to come up
- 28:04Speaker 1: with a set list and play stuff to keep yourself
- 28:06Speaker 1: interested and keep the songs alive from like the instigator.
- 28:09Speaker 3: Or the traveler.
- 28:10Speaker 1: It's been, you know, if you're a Rhett Miller fan
- 28:13Speaker 1: and old 97 zealot, you probably come away going, I
- 28:16Speaker 1: wish you'd have played this or that show.
- 28:18Speaker 6: Come on, dude. I think about it all the time
- 28:20Speaker 6: and it's impossible to cover everything. It's, I can't even
- 28:24Speaker 6: play a song off of every old 97s record, much
- 28:27Speaker 6: less every old 97s and solo record. So, but I
- 28:31Speaker 6: do think about it, you know, and most, you know,
- 28:34Speaker 6: most of the songs will be old 97 songs from
- 28:37Speaker 6: the electric years, just because numbers, you know, those were
- 28:40Speaker 6: the records that cut through the noise the most. And
- 28:42Speaker 6: so of people that show up, I know their favorite
- 28:45Speaker 6: songs are going to be on those records. And, but
- 28:48Speaker 6: then I know other people, are going to have favorites
- 28:50Speaker 6: from scattered throughout the rest of the band and my catalog.
- 28:53Speaker 6: So I really try and cover everything, but man, if I,
- 28:58Speaker 6: if I don't play it, I might play it next
- 29:00Speaker 6: time I come back. Cause I mix it up.
- 29:02Speaker 1: Every once in a while when I'm on a plane
- 29:03Speaker 1: or those rare times that I'm working out, something will
- 29:06Speaker 1: come up from like the grand theater or something. It's like,
- 29:08Speaker 1: Oh man, this was a sweet period in the, for
- 29:10Speaker 1: the band. And this was like, it's an underrated era.
- 29:13Speaker 1: You know, that, that double album you guys did that
- 29:15Speaker 1: kind of, you know, that.
- 29:16Speaker 3: Was very cool.
- 29:17Speaker 6: Thank you. Those records are coming out on vinyl. That
- 29:21Speaker 6: was during our New West era. We spent about 10
- 29:24Speaker 6: years from 2003 to 2013 on New West. Those records
- 29:28Speaker 6: were pretty great. It's funny. That was latter career stuff,
- 29:35Speaker 6: but it was also 20 years ago. Like, how does
- 29:38Speaker 6: that even happen?
- 29:38Speaker 1: That's, and that's the thing. Well, and like Blame It
- 29:41Speaker 1: On Gravity was about 20 years ago, right? That was
- 29:44Speaker 1: in that period. And I think the first time we spoke,
- 29:47Speaker 1: you were just, you guys were just finishing that up
- 29:49Speaker 1: and it was getting ready to come out. You were
- 29:50Speaker 1: excited about that, but then, you know, you got the
- 29:52Speaker 1: itch and had to come to Milwaukee to play a
- 29:54Speaker 1: solo show.
- 29:55Speaker 6: Man, I gotta, I gotta keep feeding my children every day.
- 30:00Speaker 3: Even when they're out of the house.
- 30:01Speaker 4: Yeah.
- 30:02Speaker 3: Somehow they're still on scholarship. Well, I went back and
- 30:05Speaker 3: looked at that interview.
- 30:06Speaker 1: And one of the things we talked about was it
- 30:08Speaker 1: was just becoming, and this was 2007 and it was like, Hey, and.
- 30:12Speaker 3: The labels you had been, you've had your ups and
- 30:14Speaker 3: downs with labels.
- 30:15Speaker 1: Like everybody of your age has, and like anybody in
- 30:17Speaker 1: the music industry has, but it was like, Hey, is
- 30:20Speaker 1: this like the, is this going to be web-based or
- 30:22Speaker 1: is it, what's it going to, and we couldn't have
- 30:25Speaker 1: foreshadowed like bands breaking on Tik TOK now and band,
- 30:28Speaker 1: you know, bands doing their own thing. independent and you
- 30:31Speaker 1: were saying how, yeah, it might go that way where,
- 30:33Speaker 1: you know, labels will be less, you know, involved and
- 30:36Speaker 1: we know they don't develop.
- 30:37Speaker 3: They just take a rake. So where is the music
- 30:41Speaker 3: industry now?
- 30:41Speaker 1: You guys have reached a comfortable point where you can
- 30:43Speaker 1: draw crowds in a lot of towns around the country.
- 30:45Speaker 1: You can play any summer you want. You can go
- 30:47Speaker 1: out whenever you want. Not a lot of bands reach that. If, if,
- 30:51Speaker 1: if you had to go back and live and squalor
- 30:53Speaker 1: and do it all over again, the landscape has changed
- 30:55Speaker 1: so much.
- 30:56Speaker 3: What would it be like?
- 30:58Speaker 6: So I recently took a job, like I already do
- 31:01Speaker 6: big songwriting retreats out in the mountains once a year,
- 31:04Speaker 6: but I took a job teaching undergraduates at the college
- 31:07Speaker 6: where my daughter goes in Greenwich Village in New York.
- 31:10Speaker 6: And it's awesome teaching undergrads, but it is so tough
- 31:14Speaker 6: when they ask me, what am I supposed to do?
- 31:17Speaker 6: How do I do this? What's my strategy to like
- 31:20Speaker 6: get popular, make a living? And I'm like, bro, I
- 31:23Speaker 6: have no idea anymore how you would do it. you know,
- 31:27Speaker 6: because it's got to be social media based. And I
- 31:30Speaker 6: don't know, man, it's, it's a little bit bleak, but
- 31:33Speaker 6: I will say this, young people still write songs. Young
- 31:36Speaker 6: people still care about music. Young people still go to
- 31:39Speaker 6: shows and see other people their age who write songs
- 31:42Speaker 6: and care about music. So it's not like there's no hope.
- 31:45Speaker 6: People that want to do music who have no choice
- 31:48Speaker 6: in their, you know, psyche to other than to do music,
- 31:51Speaker 6: they'll always do music. And people always go see shows
- 31:55Speaker 6: and need music. Just, whether or not they can get
- 31:57Speaker 6: paid for it. That's, that's the trickier thing, but everything
- 32:01Speaker 6: is cyclical. I'm sure it's going to come back around.
- 32:04Speaker 1: Well, they always, you're the cautionary tale. Your parents, your
- 32:07Speaker 1: parents around the world, you better have a fallback plan.
- 32:10Speaker 1: And here you've made your life as a musician. You're
- 32:11Speaker 1: already a one percenter because your life's work has been
- 32:15Speaker 1: doing this and avoiding, you know, real nine to five
- 32:18Speaker 1: work and cubicle hell.
- 32:20Speaker 3: Right. So you're, you're an outlier already, but.
- 32:24Speaker 1: I see the new generation and I, I'm a little
- 32:26Speaker 1: nervous counting on the youngsters, but the kids now with
- 32:31Speaker 1: guitars and drums are going to be our last line
- 32:33Speaker 1: of defense against AI. Cause it's going to be like
- 32:36Speaker 1: the last, what else is there creatively? Like they're, they're,
- 32:40Speaker 1: they're the bulwark. They're like the last line for us
- 32:42Speaker 1: to keep producing new stuff and not let just machines,
- 32:46Speaker 1: you know, run our lives and produce everything that we consume.
- 32:50Speaker 6: Well, the nice thing about like what I do and
- 32:52Speaker 6: what these, you know, undergraduates that I'm working with do is,
- 32:55Speaker 6: When you show up in a room with your musical
- 32:58Speaker 6: instruments and your songs, and then other people show up there,
- 33:01Speaker 6: it's the kind of thing that can't be replicated, certainly
- 33:04Speaker 6: not by an algorithm or an artificial intelligence. It's human
- 33:09Speaker 6: beings in a room together singing along. Then it's songs
- 33:12Speaker 6: that somebody wrote that now other people have sort of
- 33:15Speaker 6: memorized and love. And that's a really special thing. And
- 33:20Speaker 6: I think that as humanity gets bigger, more and more
- 33:23Speaker 6: stripped of its humanity. Like that'll be one of the
- 33:26Speaker 6: last great experiences that we can share. And I feel
- 33:30Speaker 6: pretty lucky that my job is built on that.
- 33:34Speaker 1: All right, but when you're playing a 97 show and
- 33:36Speaker 1: there's a festival and it's 5,000 people on a warm
- 33:39Speaker 1: summer night, people are holding a beer in one hand
- 33:41Speaker 1: and holding their phone up recording in the other.
- 33:44Speaker 3: What does Rhett Miller say to himself?
- 33:47Speaker 6: Thank God 5,000 people showed up tonight.
- 33:51Speaker 3: Hope they all buy some merch.
- 33:52Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 33:54Speaker 6: You know, I don't begrudge anybody anything. Like we are all,
- 33:58Speaker 6: everybody is just trying to get through. And if, you know,
- 34:01Speaker 6: if it makes you more comfortable as a young person
- 34:03Speaker 6: to like be filming and maybe even watching through the
- 34:07Speaker 6: screen on your phone, like whatever it takes to get
- 34:10Speaker 6: you out of your house and into the real world,
- 34:13Speaker 6: even if you need to have a, you know, an
- 34:15Speaker 6: electric sort of comfort blanket in your hand as you
- 34:20Speaker 6: do it. It's okay, man. We're all in this together.
- 34:22Speaker 6: We're just all trying to freaking survive.
- 34:24Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 34:24Speaker 3: We're all just on a space rock, right? We're all
- 34:26Speaker 3: just floating around here.
- 34:28Speaker 1: And maybe that shared music, music has saved the world
- 34:32Speaker 1: like in the sixties in some ways, and it helped
- 34:34Speaker 1: revolutionize things.
- 34:36Speaker 3: Maybe it can save us. And maybe it'll just.
- 34:38Speaker 1: Keep people going to things like sports and music are
- 34:41Speaker 1: what get people out of the house and away from
- 34:43Speaker 1: their phones and away from their, their TVs.
- 34:45Speaker 6: Right. Yes, it's the communal nature of these events, and
- 34:52Speaker 6: it's not replaced by anything on our digital devices.
- 34:56Speaker 3: What else is on tap for you? What else do
- 34:57Speaker 3: you need to promote?
- 34:58Speaker 1: Where are the 97s other than soon-to-be major motion picture
- 35:03Speaker 1: documentary features?
- 35:05Speaker 6: A new record is going to drop in April. I
- 35:08Speaker 6: think they haven't officially told me the date, but it
- 35:10Speaker 6: sounds like it'll be April. It's in the can. It's great.
- 35:13Speaker 6: It's so good. And I think I know the album title,
- 35:18Speaker 6: but I'm not allowed to say it until it's official.
- 35:20Speaker 6: But it's going to be great. It's Old 97's 15th
- 35:23Speaker 6: studio album. We decided that we're counting our Christmas album
- 35:27Speaker 6: because it was all original songs. So it's like a
- 35:30Speaker 6: studio album that happens to be Christmas themed. So that
- 35:33Speaker 6: means that this is our 15th studio album as a band. Wow.
- 35:38Speaker 3: That is, I mean, who'd have thunk, right?
- 35:40Speaker 6: Yep. 33 years.
- 35:41Speaker 3: Back from those squalid days. Who would have thunk that
- 35:43Speaker 3: you'd get to 15 years?
- 35:46Speaker 1: Is that the hardest part of there's the there's the writing,
- 35:49Speaker 1: there's the recording, there's the mixing and then is naming
- 35:52Speaker 1: the record the hardest part?
- 35:55Speaker 6: Sometimes. But in the case of this, this one, it
- 35:57Speaker 6: was one of the one of the album titles or
- 36:01Speaker 6: one of the song titles became the album title. And
- 36:03Speaker 6: I knew it early on. Of course, Ken had already
- 36:06Speaker 6: pegged that song title at our guitar player, who's ornery
- 36:09Speaker 6: as hell. He's like, man, that sounds pretentious. So just
- 36:12Speaker 6: be ready. I can't announce the title, but you should
- 36:15Speaker 6: know in advance that it will be pretentious.
- 36:18Speaker 3: It'll be pretentious and Ken will complain.
- 36:20Speaker 6: Yeah, of course.
- 36:22Speaker 3: That's his default setting.
- 36:27Speaker 1: It's funny because I was also thinking as I heard
- 36:30Speaker 1: from your manager, like, hey, we want to help promote
- 36:33Speaker 1: these shows.
- 36:33Speaker 3: I'm like, anytime I can talk to Red, it's a treat.
- 36:35Speaker 1: But I was thinking about I'm not in a band,
- 36:38Speaker 1: but we have a radio show and it's three guys
- 36:40Speaker 1: in a room slugging it out day after day after day.
- 36:42Speaker 3: And the dynamic is similar.
- 36:44Speaker 1: You know, everybody's heard each other's stories and we've been,
- 36:47Speaker 1: it's you're at times you can get sick of each other,
- 36:51Speaker 1: but you can't exist without each other.
- 36:53Speaker 6: Yeah.
- 36:53Speaker 3: It's that weird, you know, push and pull.
- 36:57Speaker 6: And I've seen even in the couple of decades that
- 36:59Speaker 6: I've known you, I've seen you do different things and,
- 37:02Speaker 6: and it's just, it's cool, man. It's great when you're
- 37:05Speaker 6: meant to do something, And you also love it. Like
- 37:08Speaker 6: you'll find a way to do it and you'll make
- 37:10Speaker 6: it work. And people will be glad you did it
- 37:12Speaker 6: because you're, you're, you're good at what you do, Drew.
- 37:14Speaker 6: And I mean, I'm good enough that I've gotten to
- 37:16Speaker 6: keep doing it. So let's go, man.
- 37:18Speaker 3: Yeah, let's go. Let's have a time. Let's have a time.
- 37:21Speaker 1: Wednesday night, Shank Hall, Friday, Saturday, spring green at the
- 37:25Speaker 1: bleepy barn, expletive deleted barn.
- 37:27Speaker 3: We'll, you know, we'll send a link out and let
- 37:29Speaker 3: people know. Rhett, thank you for hanging out.
- 37:31Speaker 1: Best of luck to your Cowboys and the Packers as
- 37:33Speaker 1: they try to recover from their struggles.
- 37:35Speaker 3: And we will see you on Wednesday night at Shank.
- 37:38Speaker 6: Thanks for having me. See ya.
- 37:42Speaker 3: All right. Thanks to Rhett Miller for joining us.
- 37:44Speaker 1: Thanks to Billy and Armin for indulging my musical fixation.
- 37:48Speaker 3: That was awesome. I enjoyed that. That's good stuff, man.
- 37:50Speaker 3: He's such a good dude.
- 37:52Speaker 1: You're going to enjoy the shows if you go Wednesday
- 37:53Speaker 1: night in Milwaukee, Shank Hall, or Friday, Saturday, Spring Green.
- 37:57Speaker 3: That would be pretty sweet. Interesting. At the Blank Barn.
- 38:01Speaker 3: Interesting to hear him talk about how.
- 38:03Speaker 5: You wouldn't know how to start a music career now
- 38:05Speaker 5: with today's day and age. It's not so different than
- 38:07Speaker 5: what we do in some ways. Well, the parallels I said,
- 38:10Speaker 5: you're in a band.
- 38:11Speaker 1: We're in a band. We don't play music, but we've
- 38:13Speaker 1: got three guys that are together all the time. You've
- 38:15Speaker 1: heard each other's stories, and the longer you do it,
- 38:18Speaker 1: it's like you have a rhythm.
- 38:19Speaker 3: And it's interesting.
- 38:22Speaker 1: But Old 97 has been together for 33 years, so
- 38:24Speaker 1: great rock band if you ever get a chance to
- 38:25Speaker 1: go see them.
- 38:27Speaker 3: Especially on a warm night with a cold brew in
- 38:28Speaker 3: your hand.
- 38:29Speaker 1: Life doesn't get much better. That's going to be hard
- 38:31Speaker 1: to beat. They bring it hard for sure. Boys, as
- 38:35Speaker 1: we move forward, obviously Brewers Padres dominating. It's Bear Week.
- 38:39Speaker 3: Thank goodness.
- 38:40Speaker 1: Finally, Bear Week. This is going to be a measuring
- 38:43Speaker 1: game for the Packers. They might have new offensive linemen.
- 38:46Speaker 1: They're not going to face Caleb Williams. The Bears have
- 38:49Speaker 1: been rolling pretty good. A lot of people are getting,
- 38:50Speaker 1: and we're going to get into the weeds of the
- 38:52Speaker 1: whole rivalry and the Ben Johnson's approach to Matt LaFleur's.
- 38:57Speaker 1: You know, if, if the Packers were kind of riding high,
- 39:01Speaker 1: if the Packers were coming off a division title, people
- 39:04Speaker 1: would say, Oh yeah. Why, why punch down?
- 39:06Speaker 5: Why?
- 39:07Speaker 1: You know, but now fans, you want what you don't have.
- 39:10Speaker 1: You want success. I like that allure. And you know,
- 39:13Speaker 1: people are pissed that the floor is not showing more
- 39:15Speaker 1: fire and like not answering Ben Johnson's, you know, Ben
- 39:19Speaker 1: Johnson's trying to bait him into debates and begs for attention.
- 39:22Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 39:23Speaker 3: I don't know. We'll dive into that. Please, for interest.
- 39:26Speaker 3: And then, as we continue to bask in the glow
- 39:29Speaker 3: of the church. hit and the string of brewers at
- 39:31Speaker 3: bats in the ninth inning, and folks are wondering, was.
- 39:34Speaker 1: Mason Miller tipping his pitches? We've seen this with Miz
- 39:37Speaker 1: on the rare occasions that he gets roughed up. It's
- 39:40Speaker 1: a natural instinct now. It is part of the game,
- 39:42Speaker 1: but with the pitch comp thing, the catcher's not putting
- 39:44Speaker 1: down one finger for a fastball, two fingers for a curve,
- 39:47Speaker 1: three for... That's not happening anymore. But there are tells
- 39:51Speaker 1: that teams can discern, and if you get one, it's cool.
- 39:55Speaker 1: But I guess the Cliffs notes on that, my stance
- 39:57Speaker 1: is it's still 104.
- 39:59Speaker 3: If you know it's coming, good luck. Yeah, good luck.
- 40:01Speaker 2: You still got to hit it. You still got to
- 40:03Speaker 2: lay off. You still got to tell yourself as that,
- 40:05Speaker 2: what is it, 94-mile-an-hour slider is coming at you and
- 40:10Speaker 2: having this disgusting break. You also got to tell yourself
- 40:12Speaker 2: to not swing because it is going to drop below
- 40:15Speaker 2: the zone.
- 40:16Speaker 1: Everybody's talking about Churio taking the slider on one-two, right?
- 40:21Speaker 3: If that pitch is a strike, he's out and the
- 40:22Speaker 3: game's over and the Brewers lose. Yeah.
- 40:25Speaker 2: And he gets clowned for striking out. Yeah, it's a
- 40:28Speaker 2: great take, but it wasn't a strike either. You just
- 40:31Speaker 2: have to trust the spin. Not only do you have
- 40:33Speaker 2: to recognize the pitch and take it. Where does it
- 40:35Speaker 2: say that you've got to chase that pitch, right?
- 40:37Speaker 1: And I was telling Armand off the air, it's like
- 40:40Speaker 1: a 50-50 proposition. If you're geared up for the fastball
- 40:43Speaker 1: and it's a slider, just tip your cap. You're not
- 40:44Speaker 1: hitting it.
- 40:45Speaker 3: That's what makes him so tough.
- 40:46Speaker 1: At the same time, if you're hunting for the slider
- 40:48Speaker 1: and he comes 104, you're not hitting that either.
- 40:50Speaker 3: Nope, not touching it. So goodbye.
- 40:51Speaker 1: That's what hitting is, is eliminating pitches like, Okay, it's 1-0.
- 40:55Speaker 1: He's probably going to throw me a fastball.
- 40:57Speaker 2: Also, don't let somebody get to second base. Last I checked,
- 41:00Speaker 2: the Padres had, what, 20 different at-bats with runners in
- 41:02Speaker 2: scoring position?
- 41:03Speaker 3: They've had guys at second base. Yeah. Try to grab
- 41:05Speaker 3: a tell. We're going to dive into all of that
- 41:07Speaker 3: as we move forward. You're in the huddle. Fox Sports Radio, Wisconsin.