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- 1:27Speaker 1: know it's true. Kylo Wren Star Wars, episode seven, The
- 1:34Speaker 1: Force Awakens. Do you recognize that voice? Maybe you heard
- 1:38Speaker 1: him playing Adam Sackler on the HBO hit Girls Adam Driver.
- 1:44Speaker 1: It is also marine, I learned years ago. You never
- 1:46Speaker 1: say it was a marine. Wants a marine, always a marine.
- 1:50Speaker 1: He left the Marines after an accident. He went to Juilliard.
- 1:53Speaker 1: He stumbled quite nicely into a mega career now as
- 1:57Speaker 1: a movie and television star, and he's joining us now.
- 2:00Speaker 1: We want to talk a bit about his career, but
- 2:02Speaker 1: we mostly want to talk about his new foundation, Arts
- 2:05Speaker 1: in the Armed Forces, which is taking the best modern
- 2:08Speaker 1: American theater to the military free of charge. And he's
- 2:11Speaker 1: getting ready for a big tour in South Korea. Adam,
- 2:13Speaker 1: are welcome. It's great to have it on the show.
- 2:14Speaker 1: Thank you so much for having me. Well, you know
- 2:16Speaker 1: I knew your story. I recently just coincidentally, my daughter
- 2:21Speaker 1: I washed over shoulder as she listened to one of
- 2:22Speaker 1: your ted talks where you talked about that so in
- 2:25Speaker 1: a nutshell where people who don't know your story from
- 2:28Speaker 1: a kid in the Midwest who wasn't sure what they
- 2:29Speaker 1: wanted to do to the Marines two movie star, how
- 2:34Speaker 1: did it happen? I was interested in acting in high school,
- 2:38Speaker 1: but it didn't really seem like a realistic job to
- 2:41Speaker 1: pursue in the town that I was from, a small
- 2:44Speaker 1: town called Mishawaka in Indiana, in northern Indiana. Uh. Then
- 2:49Speaker 1: September eleven happened, and I feel like most of the
- 2:51Speaker 1: people my age at that time, you know, felt a
- 2:54Speaker 1: sense of patriotism, and uh, I wanted to be involved
- 2:58Speaker 1: and do something. And I knew that the military um
- 3:02Speaker 1: or the Marine Corps specifically, seemed like something that I
- 3:04Speaker 1: wanted to throw my energy towards him. It seemed like
- 3:07Speaker 1: the toughest branch to join, so I UM. I left
- 3:10Speaker 1: a few months later on like a January or February,
- 3:13Speaker 1: and then when I got out, had this maybe false
- 3:17Speaker 1: sense of confidence that like all civilian problems are small
- 3:20Speaker 1: because I was compared to the military. You know, um,
- 3:23Speaker 1: I can stand in lines and pay taxes, and that
- 3:26Speaker 1: would be something easily manageable. It's an illusion, but at
- 3:28Speaker 1: the time that's what I thought. And so I knew
- 3:32Speaker 1: that Juilliard was supposed to be the best school for acting,
- 3:34Speaker 1: and I figured, like, what since the Marine Corps is
- 3:37Speaker 1: the best for the military, I'll just I'll just go there.
- 3:40Speaker 1: I'll try to go there. And I was lucky enough
- 3:42Speaker 1: to get in and then graduated, and was also lucky
- 3:46Speaker 1: enough to keep working after I graduated, and that was
- 3:49Speaker 1: that was kind of a I'm going to ask you
- 3:53Speaker 1: something some personal stuff later, but I just want to
- 3:56Speaker 1: get out of arts in the Armed Forces. This is
- 3:59Speaker 1: a nonprofit organization, and I'm wondering if you could tell
- 4:03Speaker 1: us about some of the works that are being performed
- 4:08Speaker 1: and also how this came to be. So when when
- 4:11Speaker 1: I was at school, UM was really for the first
- 4:15Speaker 1: time I was exposed to theater, playwrights, characters and plays
- 4:19Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with the military at all.
- 4:20Speaker 1: But we're somehow giving me the language to describe my
- 4:24Speaker 1: experience in the military, and even just from being from
- 4:27Speaker 1: you know, the Midwest where my household. The emphasism using
- 4:32Speaker 1: your language to be able to communicate feeling wasn't something
- 4:35Speaker 1: that was often not necessarily encouraged, but just it wasn't
- 4:38Speaker 1: something we did very much. But if it was finding
- 4:40Speaker 1: through theater the language basically to express myself and and
- 4:45Speaker 1: process what had just happened. And I wanted to share
- 4:49Speaker 1: that with the people that I served with because I
- 4:52Speaker 1: remember that being an issue just people not being able
- 4:54Speaker 1: to express themselves or find the right words, and how
- 4:58Speaker 1: frustrated they would get at and how usually anger and
- 5:02Speaker 1: violence came from that, just not being able to use
- 5:04Speaker 1: their language in an environment like the military. Phrase you
- 5:07Speaker 1: know is filled with acronyms for acronyms upon acronyms, but
- 5:11Speaker 1: there's not really a lot of emphasis put on um,
- 5:15Speaker 1: you know, language and expressing feelings. Uh. So, we tried
- 5:20Speaker 1: to go team up with the various veterans organizations to
- 5:22Speaker 1: see if they would be interested in it. Kept getting
- 5:24Speaker 1: the response that theater didn't fit in military demographic, that
- 5:27Speaker 1: the the people in the military wanted to see cheerleaders,
- 5:30Speaker 1: and which is true, My love cheerleaders. But I felt
- 5:33Speaker 1: like we were capable considering what we were being asked
- 5:36Speaker 1: to do. We were capable of handling something a bit
- 5:39Speaker 1: more thought provoking, like a play, you know, I think that.
- 5:43Speaker 1: And I had all these places that I was exposed
- 5:46Speaker 1: to for the first time, that Sam Shepard and David
- 5:48Speaker 1: Mammott and you know, Deniz Ravance, all these great writers
- 5:51Speaker 1: who um, I knew would resonate with the military audience.
- 5:54Speaker 1: So so Juilliard funded our first performance and we went
- 5:58Speaker 1: to Camp Helton, where I was stationed at, and we're
- 6:00Speaker 1: very confused about what it is we were doing there,
- 6:02Speaker 1: and we were kind of confused about what it is
- 6:03Speaker 1: we were trying to do, and somehow, over the course
- 6:06Speaker 1: of the evening that's it seemed to all the theater
- 6:09Speaker 1: and the military together just seemed to make complete sense.
- 6:12Speaker 1: And it's the best across across section of the best
- 6:15Speaker 1: people that we have in this country, you know, to
- 6:18Speaker 1: defend it. Why not bring them the best form of
- 6:21Speaker 1: entertainment like life theater. Well, I think I first understood
- 6:24Speaker 1: more than military mentality years ago when I went to
- 6:28Speaker 1: an Army base to profile a lieutenant colonel who was
- 6:30Speaker 1: leaving active duty after about twenty years and wanted to
- 6:33Speaker 1: transition into corporate America. I was trying to get a
- 6:35Speaker 1: middle management and you get, it becomes very clear the
- 6:38Speaker 1: skills you gain in the military, and certainly in combat
- 6:42Speaker 1: or just just serving. But how to convince people have
- 6:45Speaker 1: never served in the military, how that translate. It's interesting
- 6:48Speaker 1: to me that the military itself couldn't see that maybe
- 6:50Speaker 1: its own members could benefit and understand theater. So I mean,
- 6:56Speaker 1: it's almost like the military itself not realized. No, this
- 6:58Speaker 1: is a very diverse group of people with a lot
- 7:00Speaker 1: going on the Yeah. Yeah, it's the most you know,
- 7:03Speaker 1: culturally diverse, complex group of people who are in life
- 7:06Speaker 1: or death stakes daily. We're in acting, you kind of
- 7:09Speaker 1: pretend your circumstances or life and death. Uh, their day
- 7:13Speaker 1: to day actually is life and death. And so I
- 7:16Speaker 1: think that really great writing has those stakes built into
- 7:20Speaker 1: it so people automatically find And we were also presenting
- 7:23Speaker 1: things like that that weren't. It wasn't streamers. Those are great,
- 7:26Speaker 1: that's a great play, but it's not it's not a
- 7:28Speaker 1: theme centered around military. We hope to show characters that
- 7:31Speaker 1: highlight the human struggles that we all share that our
- 7:34Speaker 1: life and death. There aren't specifically, you know, within the
- 7:36Speaker 1: context of being in the military, because I think that's
- 7:38Speaker 1: you know, these people the people that within a job
- 7:42Speaker 1: that um is very stressful, But at the end of
- 7:47Speaker 1: the day, they're not um uh, they're people within a
- 7:51Speaker 1: military setting. So it's it doesn't completely define them. It's
- 7:56Speaker 1: not like they won't be able to Everyone has mothers
- 7:58Speaker 1: and fathers and brothers and sisters that uh stories that
- 8:02Speaker 1: are um. Hopefully they'll find resonance. One some examples of
- 8:08Speaker 1: the places in which your organization arts in the Armed
- 8:12Speaker 1: Forces A I T a F have performed Walter read
- 8:17Speaker 1: military Medical Facility, the Center there also just did one
- 8:22Speaker 1: I believe in April at Fort Hood in Texas. What
- 8:28Speaker 1: what how can businesses? How can how can people participate?
- 8:31Speaker 1: If they agree with this approach, they want to bring
- 8:35Speaker 1: more arts to the military, what do they do? Then
- 8:39Speaker 1: go to our website which is www dot A TA
- 8:42Speaker 1: dot org A I T A F. And I think
- 8:45Speaker 1: it also depends on where you're at within this the
- 8:48Speaker 1: journey of being in the military. If you're a civilian
- 8:50Speaker 1: that we definitely need volunteers and people to help us.
- 8:52Speaker 1: And if you're if you're in the military, you can
- 8:55Speaker 1: reach out to us through that website and and try
- 8:57Speaker 1: to bring us to your base. If you're a veteran.
- 9:00Speaker 1: I think it would be the exact same thing on
- 9:03Speaker 1: either side of UH. We're very much a new nonprofit.
- 9:07Speaker 1: Well we've been we've been going for six years, but
- 9:10Speaker 1: only in the past couple of years of it is
- 9:11Speaker 1: it really picked up steam and for the first time,
- 9:13Speaker 1: Basis are reaching out to us and they want us
- 9:15Speaker 1: to come there and and that's that's as simple as
- 9:17Speaker 1: it is. We have a very there's there's a low overhead,
- 9:20Speaker 1: so you can get to to any of us pretty quickly,
- 9:23Speaker 1: and we try. It's such a the project is designed
- 9:25Speaker 1: where we bring like a play or monologues, so we'll
- 9:28Speaker 1: take a uh we're doing Lobby Hero in South Korea,
- 9:32Speaker 1: for example, so it's a four person play. All we're
- 9:35Speaker 1: doing we're flying out there. We're reading the play, no sets,
- 9:37Speaker 1: no costumes, no lights, just on music stands. We come
- 9:40Speaker 1: in and we say hi, and we talk to people
- 9:42Speaker 1: and we read the play and then and then that's it.
- 9:44Speaker 1: And so it's an easy to transpo in and out.
- 9:47Speaker 1: I just have to put a plug for boom BERGALP
- 9:49Speaker 1: because we also have a growing recruiting military veterans program
- 9:53Speaker 1: and reaching out with various services for veterans just gonna
- 9:56Speaker 1: ask you any advice since you're here. We're a business channel.
- 9:59Speaker 1: We think about jobs and stuff. For somebody who's interested
- 10:01Speaker 1: in theater, military, you know, a veteran or not. What
- 10:05Speaker 1: what would you say, Adam and me as far as
- 10:07Speaker 1: how to get a job, Just just what's your one
- 10:09Speaker 1: thing that comes to mind? How to get a job
- 10:11Speaker 1: or pursuing it or not pursuing What's what's someone know
- 10:14Speaker 1: or have inside them? Everybody's different, I would say, everyone has.
- 10:18Speaker 1: You know, the things that I have to compete against
- 10:20Speaker 1: is a straight white male or completely different females or
- 10:24Speaker 1: people of color. So um, but I can tell I
- 10:28Speaker 1: can say my experience going to school. I mean, I
- 10:31Speaker 1: was lucky enough to go to Juilliard, to great school,
- 10:33Speaker 1: but by no means guarantees you work at all or
- 10:37Speaker 1: that you'll find a long career because of where you
- 10:39Speaker 1: went to school. But for me, especially coming out of
- 10:42Speaker 1: the military and having all this energy and wanting to
- 10:45Speaker 1: find something to put it in like theater can give you.
- 10:50Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about theater culture or military culture.
- 10:53Speaker 1: So to find a place that I could that gave
- 10:56Speaker 1: me that structure was helpful. Thanks very much for spending
- 10:59Speaker 1: time with us. Adam Driver, of course, the actor who'll
- 11:02Speaker 1: be starting next in Martin Scorsese's movie A Silence. And
- 11:06Speaker 1: also he's the founder of arts in the Armed Forces.
- 11:10Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg. Thank you,