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S7 290. Dr. Joye Jeffries Pugh - The Shroud of Turin, Dreams, and my UFO encounter · Millennial Mustard Seed

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Hi, I'm Doctor Joy Jeffries Pew. Welcome to the Millennial
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Mustard Seed Podcast. Doctor Joy, it's an honor to
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have you here on the show. Oh, listen, I am looking so
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forward to us talking about all the things that I know that you
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know about and you know that I know about in the research we've
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both been doing. So this is a wonderful
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experience to be doing this today with you.
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Absolutely. And it's been a long time
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coming. I think originally I tried to
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get you scheduled almost a year ago and there was a conflict
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with that schedule and then we were talking off air and you're
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still recovering from a storm that hit in the sense of dealing
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with different parts of the bureaucracy and similar over
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here with me. We did lose a car and the house
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got hit by a mega tree, which one of my buddies shout out to
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holistic Nick Long. He's like, isn't it funny the
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enemy tried to use a tree to take you out when you are the
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mustard seed like growing into a threat against the Kingdom of
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darkness. So, yeah, throwing that back at
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the Kingdom of darkness. Yeah, I am a tree.
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And I'm going to fall on you next and ruin your plans.
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But Doctor Joy Jeffries, Pew, it's an honor to have you here.
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If my audience doesn't know anything about you, I want to
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open up this this kind of conversation slash interview
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with you, telling us about yourself, expertise, anything
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you'd like to share a 30,000 foot view?
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Well, I live, I of course, Dr. Joy Jeffers Pew and I am from
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South Georgia, have lived here all of my life.
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I was a little girl on a South Georgia farm.
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I grew up as a little farm girl. And so I've picked cotton, I
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have cropped tobacco, I've driven tractors, I've worked
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with my little hands starting at a very young age on the farm.
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I mean, if you're a farm girl, that's the kind of thing that
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you do. And I actually wrote a book
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called Parables of Joy on a Georgia farm.
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It's all true stories and the people's names that are in there
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are all real people. And this story's really did
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happen because I wanted people to know a little bit about me.
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Lots of times authors do not want people to know a lot of
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about them and so therefore they write under pen names or
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whatever with this is my real, real name.
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And I will tell you that the reason I go by Doctor Joy and
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it's spelled JOYEA, Lot of people want to say it's Joyce
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because they want to add the C into it, but it's not.
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It's Joyce Joye. And the reason is when I was in
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my mother's womb, months before I was to be born and I'm old.
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So they didn't have a way of knowing if you were going to be
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a girl or a boy. And so I was my mom and dad's
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first child child. And about 3 months before I was
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born, he had this very unique vision dream in which he saw me.
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He was told that my name was to be Joy and it was to be spelled
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Joye, which is very unusual because you see it JOY but you
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don't see it Joye. And he was shown what I would
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look like. And so he of course told my
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mother. And then back when I was in the
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delivery room with my mother, they did not let any husbands
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back back There are fathers at the time.
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And so when the doctor, Doctor Sam's delivered me and they
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called him back and when he walked into the room and she was
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holding me there in, in, you know, in the recovery area and
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and he was like, that's my joy. And my mother was just shocked
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because I looked exactly like what he has said.
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And of course they had picked no other name.
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I was a female. And the reason that I don't have
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a middle name, I used Joy Jeffries when you see my work
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because that was my maiden name. So Jeffries is my maiden name
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and he did not give me a middle name because he was not given
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that in the dream. So I hope I have lived up to
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whatever God expected of me so far.
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And as well as my parents, they have both passed, but I pray
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that that joy has been something that that's been fulfilled for
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what he was given. So my life started off very
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unusual like that. And of course, as a little girl,
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they did not tell me that because they did not want me to
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feel like something might be really expected or wrong or
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whatever. So they wrote it all down.
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And later they, they gave me that to talk to me about it.
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And, and I thought, well, that's kind of strange because I've
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never heard of people having dreams like that.
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But it's a little girl. I had a dream when I was six
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years old and I believed that I saw what would be the end of
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days. And of course it was very
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terrifying for a little 6 year old girl on a Georgia farm to
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experience something like this. I have to understand, you have
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to understand that at that time, my house, my house did not even
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have a telephone. So most people can't even get
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over this. If you don't have a cell phone
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in your hand, how did you survive?
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So my phone, my phones were not available or phones were not
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available when I was little like that at the house where I was
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living at. And so I grew up on ATV that we
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could get like one good channel and the other channel he had to
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go outside and move the antenna around to get something that
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might come in at the time. So I was not exposed to a lot
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of, I guess what I would say terrible, like Armageddon type
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kinds of things that we see every day on TV now where people
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do movies about it. I didn't do that.
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But now the one thing is, is that my my grandmother and my
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grandfather took me to church their first week that I was
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born. And so I have always been in
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church since the first week that I was born.
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Little Southern Baptist Church. And so at six years old, I went
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to sleep with my little sister of 18 months younger than me in
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the little farmhouse. And during the night I had this
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dream or vision and again that it was about the end of days.
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And so I was finding myself at this vast area looking out,
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thinking, Oh my gosh, there's nothing left.
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I mean, I can't tell you the destruction that I no, it was
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very and as a six year old kid that's never seen anything or
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ever heard anything about something like that, it was it
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was terrifying. And I thought that I was the
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last person on earth. There was no one else left.
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Absolutely. I didn't see anything surviving.
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And so I looked around, you know, trying to like, process
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this. And there was this building that
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had these blocks and they were megalithic blocks and they were
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broke down. And the only thing I can
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describe them similar to is what I see at the Temple Mount over
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in Jerusalem, which was many, many, many years later when I'm
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doing my research, you know, I'm going like this was kind of
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familiar a little bit. So when I did, I was so afraid I
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went running around to hide because I'm thinking, what do I
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do? This is the only thing that's
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left standing. And so when I went around it,
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there was a man standing there. He had the most beautiful hair
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and it was down on his shoulders and he had a beard and he had
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blue eyes that were like Paul Newman's 1000 times better.
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And he had this white outfit on in a gold sash.
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And I'm just so scared. So you can imagine a six year
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old kid just scared to death, just absolutely scared to death.
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And all of a sudden I see somebody and I'm thinking, Oh my
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gosh, I'm not by myself, but I'll just remember how he looked
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at me and how I felt in his presence was just it's
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undescribable. It's like going from your
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scariest moment to feeling like you're you're not alone.
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I mean, if you ever been a little kid and never that had
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that happen and you found your parents, you remember kind of
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what I'm talking about. And he looked down at me and he
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said, fear not for I'm with you. Do not do not fear.
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I'm with you until the end. And I was kind of like, you
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know, immediately there was this relief.
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And then all of a sudden I woke up and I'm like, what, what did
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I just see? What did I just see?
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And so my grandmother and my grandfather lived in the house
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with us. We had a big farmhouse, which
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was a huge house. And so they live with my parents
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as well. And so we all farmed.
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They were all farmers together. And even my other set of
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grandparents were farmers. And so I wanted immediately to,
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to go to the church. I really felt like that it
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something bad was going to happen.
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I knew it. I mean, it was like nobody can
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make me believe that something bad was not going to happen.
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Like what I saw. I mean, I really believe that.
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And it's of course, my grandmother was one of those
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that was very kind and loving. And she was a Sunday school
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teacher. And she of course tried to say
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joy, you know, let it go. It's just a drink, ma'am.
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She would just not let me dwell on it.
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And so she was in charge of the communion when we would have
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communion at the church about once or twice a year.
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And I remember wanting to take communion.
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And so she she would just let me take the little bread and drink
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the little bit of we'll go. It was grapefruit juice, a grape
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juice. And I would just have a
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different feeling about it. Well, you know, back in Southern
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Baptist, which I was raised, they really believed that 12 was
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the the age of accountability. So it was not like they would
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wanted to accept that I might want to make a decision right
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there. But I'm going to tell you, Rod,
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right then in my life at that age, I knew that there was
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Jesus, OK, and I knew that you needed to do right.
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And so I waited and I'm thankful that the Lord stayed with me and
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kept me in doing what I did. But at a revival we had every
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year in an August at the church is when my sister, who is 18,
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much younger, and I we had gone, of course, going to revival at
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night time. And the first night we were
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looking at each other. We got home and and we kind of
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talked that night and we said, you know what, we had this
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feeling about joining the church.
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But of course, she was like 10 and I was 11.
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And so that was kind of like, you know, that was not supposed
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to happen until you were 12 years old, almost.
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So the next night we were both standing at the at the back of
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the church where a lot of the younger kids sit.
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And I'm going to tell you, when we both stood there, you could
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just feel this mighty power, I mean, on you.
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And, and so she took off running first and I went running
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together because I'm thinking to myself, if we're going to get in
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trouble, we're both going to get in trouble together.
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I'm, I'm making this decision too.
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But I remember just crying so much and such a relief.
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And you know, the people, of course, they accepted that.
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They came by and gave us, you know, the, the right-handed
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fellowship to join the church and all agreed that that was
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going to be a part of it. And then in my book pair was Joy
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on the George Farm. I talk about this and I talk
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about being baptized in a Georgia pond.
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So in other words, I didn't have a little baptismal pool.
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It was nice and neat to go get in, you know, to be baptized.
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I was literally baptized outside in one of the, the deacon's
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ponds. And I write about that because
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the experience of a child going under, I mean, I was not, I swam
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in the ponds. We had ponds on the farm or
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whatever. But you know, there's always
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these turtles and all this stuff that's in the water that you're
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a little bit scared of. But I can tell you when I eased
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out in that muddy bottom pond and when he brother JB
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Henderson, as he baptized me and when he put his little hand over
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my hand and, and put me down into that water.
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And when I came up what I write about and that story, you know
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it, it was just a difference. You you knew beyond a shadow of
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a doubt that you had participated in something and
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accepted something that far was more than just being put down in
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the water and brought out. So you know, I all my life, I
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didn't know how God was going to use me and a lot of people would
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laugh because I I really felt like God called me at that time
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to be a preacher. And in Southern Baptist
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religion, women are not seen to be pastors.
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And what I now know he was preparing me for what I do today
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and I speak about this lovely stuff that he has shown me about
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the end of days and take people from the beginning of Eden all
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the way to the end of time to really teach you.
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I don't call myself really the preacher and I'll call myself a
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prophet. I even do a lot of the things
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that I actually say do come true, but it's because they do
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the research on it. I just want people to realize
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it's a lot of research that allows me to, to know and
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discern and, and the, and the power of the Holy Spirit does
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that when you really want him to be a part of what you're doing.
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And I do. So, you know, I went on to
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school and got my doctorate degree, which totally helped me
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do what I do as far as my writings and having done
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dissertations and things of that nature.
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But all the time God would set me up.
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What is the doctorate degree in? My doctorate.
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Doctorate. Sir, no, I have a doctorate
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degree in education. And what I did, I started out,
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my dad wanted me to be an attorney.
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And so my first two years, I really thought that's what I
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wanted, wanted to do. I was always an athlete and I
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was also very, very blessed to have, have an ability to make
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really good grades of which he expected.
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You know, it wasn't like I had nobody saying it's about time
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you make 100 every time you go in there.
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But my dad was very much, you know, wanting you to have your,
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your education. So he really thought about, and
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I really thought I wanted to be an attorney because I like
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digging, I like research. I mean, I really would have done
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OK with that kind of work, but God changed that.
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And I got my master's degree in guidance counseling psychology.
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And I think that's the thing. And my undergraduate was in
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health and physical education because they wanted to
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understand the whole body and had several people want me to go
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into the, into the field of medicine because I could dissect
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cats and do all kinds of stuff. And, and I had a pat actually a
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professor get on his hands and, and put my hands in my hands and
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get on his knees and say, joy, why in the world are you not
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being a surgeon? You know, he just couldn't
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believe that I wasn't going to be a surgeon.
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And I, and I love what I do and I do a lot of stuff with medical
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issues because I took care of handicapped people for many,
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many years as a director of a mental retardation center.
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But then, you know, I went on back and got my doctorate
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degree. And I think that I will always
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believe when I was doing that, it was to help me do what more
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that I do. And that is writing.
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And when you do a dissertation or doctorate degree, you
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understand all about facts. And you don't just theorize
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something. You literally, you know, you
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prove what you're trying to say. And so all of that was in
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preparation for what I do today. I mean, there's no doubt in my
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mind looking back, that was where I was headed.
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And when I was in college, I was already writing a lot of things
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about that, actually things that I really wanted to talk about.
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And it was funny because I had professors who were in the
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regular school systems and they would go, what are you writing
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about? And I, I would say, well, I want
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to do something. Am I actually, my master's
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thesis was the theory of light, alpha and Omega, beginning and
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end. And I remember Doctor Culpeper
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looking at me and going, what? I've never heard of anything
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like this, but, you know, God was preparing me and I just
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didn't, you know, I knew that it was not to be like a pastor over
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my church, but what was it? But I kept going and going and I
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began to see how where he was leading me.
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And for 13 years, I was a director of a mental retardation
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center and I had everything you can imagine, blind, deaf.
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I had every, everything that could be wrong with a person.
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I dealt with that in the work that I did.
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And one of the books that I wrote about is Special Parables
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of Joy. And it talks about the work that
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I did with handicapped people and all the things that we were
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able to achieve. And it was just really because
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of the hand of God in it, you know, and I and I really
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encourage people if they have a handicapped person or if you're
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feeling like you can't reach your potential, that book is
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really a book that you need to read.
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It's also a book of mine. But then, you know, like I say,
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God had his hand. And, and I was already doing, I
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would go to churches and I would do James Weldon Johnson's.
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It was a black preacher's prose. He did his, he did his sermons
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and prose. And I would memorize them, Rod
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and I would perform those sermons to allow me as a woman
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to be in the pulpit. And that was accepted, but
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that's the way was God was preparing me again to do all the
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things that I do. And so it's led me to writing
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now a little over 16 books. And my first book came out in
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1999. It was Jesus Christ.
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It was the cloned image of Jesus, you know, Christ.
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And the thing about it is I was looking at what cloning was
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going to be about. And of course, having had that
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dream at an early age, in 1978, while I was in college, my dad
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brought in a Newsweek magazine, which was the big magazine at
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the time, in which the Stirrup Committee was doing their first
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research, major research and reporting on it, on the Shroud
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of Turin. And when that was laid down in
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front of me, I was like, Oh my gosh, I've seen this man before.
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So I immediately started my research on that and and that's
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why I've never been swayed by anything that anybody has ever
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said of a negative comment or whatever about the Shroud of
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Turin. Even the 1988 a carbon dating,
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which was skewed. When I saw where they cut the
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cloth and having studied this cloth and knew that it had been
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in a fire and knew that the nuns had reworked the edges of the
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cloth and that that cloth was supposed to be 100% linen.
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Because I knew the stories that the the Jewish people did not
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mix anything. They did not mix linen in war
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with linen and cotton. Everything was not mixed.
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It was hair and bone. And when I saw that they let
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them cut where they cut on that shroud, I immediately thought,
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why are you cutting the shroud there?
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That's not original pieces of the cloth.
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What place did they cut the shroud because.
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They cut it on the before, yes, they cut it on the corners where
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it was absolutely reworked and when that came out the 1988
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carbon dating and it said, oh, the shrouds not real.
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You know it's a 700 year old cloth.
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More than likely De Vinci painting.
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They commendated the corners. Yes.
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And they did that and I believe it was intentionally right.
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They did not want anybody to know in 1988 that that cloth was
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real. They and the thing about it is
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in the 1978 research that was done and we're talking about the
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greatest scientist were given the opportunity by see the the
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shroud only came into the ownership of the Catholic Church
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under it was bequeathed to the Pope because king Umberto is who
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owned that which you go back and of course all my work traces the
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shroud, especially even the knowledge of good and evil 666
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my two books volume one and two traces that shroud as it left
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the tomb where it went to how it's the cloth of Odessa, how it
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was hidden in Constantinople, how the Knights Templar rated
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all of that took the cloth It was seen again.
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It was actually shown Charney and them that were really big
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into that Knights Templar owned it and then it was bequeathed to
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the King Alberto. So then he gave it to the Pope
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and that's why it ended up and the, the Baptist, John, I think
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it's Baptiste or whatever Chapel there there's in Turin and it's
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kept in a just totally sealed environment that nobody can get
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to it. You know, it's the cloth is the
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most researched relic in all of human history.
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So in 1978, when this stirrup committee, this the, the, they
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went in there, the scientific guys went in there to look at
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what was this cloth and what was it real?
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Was it fake or whatever at that period?
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Period of time, they already said it was blood, they had
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already cloned part of it. They already saw the DNA.
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They saw that there was chromosomes.
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They already knew that it was from a Jewish.
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Man, so you're saying back then they who was they that cloned a
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part of the cloth or they used the blood for cloning?
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This, no, this, the Stirrup committee had actually
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duplicated the blood that was there.
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They had duplicated. And what they did, what it
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showed was that it was from a Jewish man, and it also showed
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that it had been from someone because of the blood samples
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that had been totally traumatized.
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So we're looking at this committee and it was really the
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scientific, you know, research project of the Ture and Shroud
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is what it amounts to. And there were, I'm telling you,
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the best scientists ever, forensic scientists.
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We're talking about the best of the best.
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And they had already really told us in 1988 that that was not
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fake, in other words, that it was already real biological data
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that was on that cloth and that. And then when the 1988 stirrup
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thing came out, then they tried to say it was a painting and the
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blood was not blood, that it was, you know, somebody put iron
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on there and made it look like blood.
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Well, see, all of that was lies Rod.
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And I don't know. Well, yeah, I didn't know.
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I know that that shroud is going to be used at the end of days to
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prove something. And in 1988, that they were not
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ready for that to be known that that cloth was indeed the burial
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cloth and resurrection cloth of Jesus Christ.
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So that was amazing. But that's what kind of kept me
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going. And so my first book was really
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about that because I felt like that if people could understand
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1st that the cloth was real and the fact that these things have
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been going on to keep it quiet, that we need to be paying
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attention. Because if that is the case,
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then we are looking at something very serious going to happen in
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our lifetimes that will involve someone that will pretend to be
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the Messiah. And that Messiah, according to
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what scripture says, is an Antichrist.
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But if you think he is the Christ, Oh my goodness.
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And so that's why I said, let's look at what happens.
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And you take that real blood and you put it inside of a woman's
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egg that's been hollowed out, and you pop it in her and she
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produces a clone of that image. That is easy to do.
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I mean, you can do it in a high school laboratory.
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And when I was understanding, the secret societies were
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already planning something. I mean, they're great.
23:18
Camelot is to bring King Arthur back to life.
23:23
They got, you know, the king that once died is going to live
23:25
again as a child. And they were already keeping
23:28
things alive, like skin and Petri dishes and all kinds of
23:31
stuff like that. Well, the defensive code was a
23:33
pure example of what they were trying to tell us.
23:36
Doctor Joe, I've even heard about, I mean, I've heard rumor
23:39
has, right, that there was cells that were frozen from Hitler and
23:45
that they were integrated in through all of these Satanic
23:48
panic, you know, trauma processes that are not direct
23:51
clones, but that people are sharing Hitler's DNAI mean, I'm
23:55
not a me and my audience are not a stranger to any of these kind
23:58
of conversations. Like, for example, Dan Duvall
24:00
from Broad Ministries, if you're familiar with him, he's been on
24:02
like 789 times, right? So like, these are all rabbit
24:07
trails. Definitely, I feel like we're
24:09
going to be going down, and this is just at the rate we're going
24:14
in the first like 25 minutes here.
24:16
And definitely a Part 2 and probably a Part 3 is going to be
24:20
necessary to kind of get through some of my questions.
24:23
But let me steer us into finishing up putting a couple
24:27
pins in the testimony end of things, and then I'll kind of
24:30
open up some questions that we can roll through as the series
24:33
goes on. So you did kind of cover where
24:36
you grew up, went going to school, you know, supernatural
24:41
experiences happening at a very young age, which when you shared
24:46
what happened with you, it's triggering me of the experience
24:49
that I had a seven years old. I've shared on the show too many
24:53
times where it's prep, You know, the listeners might not want to
24:55
hear it again. But I think there's there's an
24:59
authenticity that no one can take away.
25:02
No one can convince you otherwise.
25:04
When before you're programmed by this world or by corporations,
25:09
agendas, commies, cartels, you name it.
25:11
Before whoever gets their hands in there and tries to get you to
25:15
regurgitate their nonsense. When you have that innocence and
25:18
you're younger and you have a supernatural experience that
25:20
stays with you your whole life. And so hearing about yours is
25:23
like, wow, OK, cool. Because the list has been
25:26
growing for how many years of people coming out and getting
25:29
more public with this, right? There's a lot of great shows
25:31
that are testimonial based. And I think that that's a
25:34
PowerPoint because any kid can go to church and be speak the
25:41
Christianese lingo after a certain amount of time.
25:44
You know, if you're going to church from the day you're born,
25:46
by the time you're 789 years old, you can have a dream and,
25:51
and it could be an angelics, you're mimicking an angelic
25:55
story that you read in the Bible when you have no church
25:57
background or you're just in the innocence of a child and you
26:00
have a supernatural event. That to me gets me going in the
26:04
best way possible where I'm like, OK, this is undisputable.
26:08
And, and I, we share that in common where I have one, my
26:11
daughter Sienna had one and the list grows, right.
26:14
So any other supernatural experiences, whether early on or
26:19
recent, that we can kind of talk about before we get into some of
26:23
the, some of the topics you've already rung the bell on, you
26:25
know, cloning and, and Antichrist and AI and things of
26:28
that sort. Any other significant
26:30
supernatural encounters? I, I mean, I've had really
26:34
strange dreams. I, I, I dreamed really that a
26:38
person that was very close about their death and they died
26:43
exactly like they did the next morning when the call came, they
26:48
had actually passed just like I had dreamed and was a close
26:53
farmer that lived not far from us.
26:55
And then I had a senior school teacher that I had really,
26:58
really just absolutely felt like he was just great.
27:02
And he used to walk out the door and to my grandmother, my mother
27:06
and say we're destroyed. Come up with all these
27:08
questions. I'm studying, studying, study.
27:11
And I come to the Sunday school room and I'm like, she's asking
27:14
me stuff. I can't answer.
27:16
But, you know, he had gone in for a simple procedure.
27:19
And one night I dreamed that he would, he would, He's going to
27:22
die. And of course, he came back from
27:24
the hospital and everybody was real happy.
27:26
He was doing good. And I kept telling my
27:28
grandmother. I said, you know, there's
27:29
something very weird about this. I dreamed that he dies.
27:33
And she says, oh, joy, no, no, no, he's going to be fine.
27:36
And it would, you know, I was just beyond myself.
27:39
And sure enough, within a couple of days he was rushed back to
27:42
the hospital and they had taken out something, I can't remember
27:47
in the stomach or something, a gallbladder I believe.
27:52
They left sponges in there. And he had set up gangrene and
27:57
he died. I mean, something that she would
28:01
have never thought about. And I knew that I knew, you
28:06
know, I just knew he was going to die it.
28:08
And it tore me up so terrible. But anyway, I went to see him
28:13
and he was just laying there in the bed and he had just, he was
28:16
a huge man who just dried up to nothing.
28:19
And he had not spoken. And I remember going over to him
28:22
and saying something to Mr. Owen and tears just started running
28:26
down his face. And they said that he had had no
28:28
reaction to nothing. And so I knew it was going to
28:32
pass that day. And so my grandmother was very
28:35
concerned because I was just a young girl.
28:38
And so she said, well, we just need, you know, we need to
28:40
leave. And it wasn't probably 10
28:43
minutes after we left, they said he opened his eyes, he clapped
28:47
his hands three times. And he did like this.
28:49
And he said it's beautiful and was gone.
28:53
So, you know, having heard that, it's a child.
28:58
And I immediately, I wrote a poem about how I felt about him.
29:02
And of course, that was read as a eulogy at his funeral.
29:06
And I mean, I was a young, young person when that happened.
29:09
And so then I had some distant relatives that it was on.
29:16
It was actually on Christmas morning and I had dreamed
29:20
Christmas Eve that both of them were going to be murdered.
29:25
And I woke up and I was just panicked because I had not seen
29:30
it. He was a preacher.
29:31
He was a preacher. And I went to the table and
29:37
Daddy asked me. He said, joy, what's wrong with
29:39
you? And I said I had a terrible
29:41
dream and I just couldn't shake it.
29:44
I said I had a terrible dream. And I'd always heard don't,
29:47
don't tell about your dreams before breakfast because they'll
29:50
come come true as a child. So, you know, I did not want to
29:54
tell this. OK.
29:56
So I'm sitting there and I'm just feeling this just terrible
29:59
feeling. I'm not old as anything.
30:02
And the telephone rings and my grandmother goes to answer the
30:07
telephone while we were sitting at the table and I heard her
30:09
scream, Oh my gosh, not Virginia and Perry.
30:14
And I'm going to tell you, I looked at my dad and he looked
30:17
at me. I said, Daddy, I dreamed last
30:20
night that somebody murdered them.
30:22
And he says, Joy, are you kidding?
30:24
I said no, and I was just crying.
30:28
And so she talked to the people and when she come to the table
30:34
she said that that they had been murdered, that they had gone
30:39
down to see their daughter the night before and was going to
30:43
surprise, I guess, them. And when they got there, the man
30:49
that that she was married to had a big furniture store and they
30:52
went in and apparently they said that a black man had had
30:58
murdered them, that he had already killed their daughter
31:03
and that they he had shot the the husband and then he had
31:09
killed Perry in Virginia. And so I never forget.
31:14
I look directly at my dad. And I said, Oh no, that's not
31:20
what happened. And and so daddy said, what do
31:23
you mean? I said it was not a black man
31:27
that did that. It was a white man.
31:30
And I had never met Eunice's husband ever.
31:36
I knew her. I knew brother Perry and brother
31:38
I mean, Miss Virginia. And so daddy says, are you
31:42
serious? And I said, no, black man
31:45
killed. Kill them.
31:48
And then I said they were he was beating them with something that
31:51
would come to find out it was a crowbar.
31:53
He literally beat them to to such smithereens that they
31:58
couldn't even open the caskets. So as the as the information
32:04
began to be, you know, looked into and whatever, what they
32:07
finally came to find out was that the husband had taken out
32:13
huge amount of money on his wife.
32:15
He wanted to kill her. He knew his mom, the mom and dad
32:18
would come in the next day. We all be cleaned up.
32:20
Everything would be done. He had taken the black man out
32:23
the I think the week before either the day before had him
32:27
shoot his pistol to get his fingerprints on his gun.
32:32
He set it all up and he's in and he's in prison.
32:36
He's still trying to get out. It became a very well known
32:40
thing out in the world, but I'll never forget knowing that what
32:46
they told that like they did to start off with.
32:49
I'm going to tell you, Rod and you know, of course my parents
32:52
followed that trial very much so because of the connection that
32:56
we had to it. But, you know, would anybody
32:59
ever believed that you little girl going?
33:02
That's not what happened, you know, But that really shook me
33:06
up. So I'm going to tell you when I
33:08
would get up in the mornings and I'd say you never guess what I
33:10
dreamed last night. If I go, don't tell me if I die.
33:14
So it got to the point, Rod, that people were scared if I
33:17
said I'd dream something. You will text me and tell me if
33:21
you have a dream about it. Now I'm just kidding so.
33:24
I mean, people sort of stealing like that, but I'm telling you
33:27
that those kinds of things did and does happen to me.
33:31
And one of the most unique things that I think happened to
33:33
me is that I believe that I died.
33:37
And I'd always wanted to understand because I had always
33:40
had an interest in what it is to step out of the body.
33:44
And I'd studied all about when you're in college and when I was
33:48
in college, Transcendental Meditation and all this astral
33:51
flight, remote viewing, the whole 9 yards, because of what I
33:53
studied, psychology and DMTS and changing the brain and LSD and
33:58
how to fix people and stuff like that.
34:00
You wondered what were they talking about by being outside
34:04
of the body? And of course, in Scripture, I,
34:06
I knew that there would be times that was talking about when you
34:08
weren't present in the body, you know, you're present with the
34:11
Lord, that kind of stuff. And one night my husband and I
34:14
going to bed like normal and halfway through the night I wake
34:21
up, but I'm standing by the windows, like I've got windows
34:27
like this kind of like in my bedroom.
34:28
So I'm just standing like by my window and I'm looking at the
34:33
king size bed and I see him laying there and I'm face down
34:37
right next to him, face down on my stomach.
34:42
And I'm thinking, I look around in the room, what it looks like
34:47
during the night, I could see everything because I have like a
34:49
little light that kind of makes everything visible.
34:53
And I'm looking around and I'm thinking, oh, this is weird.
34:57
And I'm looking down at myself and I'm still me and I'm still
35:01
thinking me, but I'm knowing that's me laying there.
35:06
And I'm going to tell you that was the feeling of knowing
35:11
beyond words. And you kind of go like, you
35:15
know, it was such an, a strange thing that you're looking at
35:20
yourself and it, you know, and it was right there on the bed.
35:24
And so I immediately, I felt myself just pull right down into
35:29
my body. And when I did, I was literally
35:33
laying exactly like what I had just seen myself and I pushed
35:36
myself up off the bed. And I mean, I came off the bed
35:40
and I was trying to breathe and, and whatever.
35:43
And and my husband, of course, woke up and he's laying right
35:46
there just like I'd seen him and that experience.
35:50
How did that come about? It was just just no, no, I was
35:54
not sleeplessness. You weren't trying to.
35:57
No, I had gone to bed. Gone to.
35:59
Travel or no weird stuff, right? It just went to bed.
36:02
No, I was. Literally in it.
36:05
Yes, and like I say, I wasn't trying to do anything.
36:09
I went to sleep like I normally did and the next thing I knew
36:13
when I opened my eyes, I was standing like I'm telling you,
36:16
against that wall and and looking down at myself.
36:20
This is interesting. And so.
36:24
Well, let me, let me let me say something real quick before I
36:27
lose this thought. I think it's going to be helpful
36:29
for myself and also other people out there.
36:31
All of the narrative about the Kingdom of darkness utilizing
36:37
individuals for remote viewing for these, these spiritual gifts
36:42
that they have. There's almost like they're
36:45
inculcating and looking continually for people that have
36:49
this specific natural supernatural ability, right?
36:54
I don't even know if that makes sense.
36:55
Hypernatural supernatural ability, let's say it that way,
36:58
we all have. But I think a lot of the times
37:00
it gets turned off and I think disassociative identity
37:04
disorder, this DID conversation, is they split the personality
37:07
through trauma, through people who have been satanically
37:10
traumatized. Right.
37:11
Yes, yes. And this is not a foreign thing.
37:14
My audience knows this. Jesus, the Lamb of God, was the
37:18
most publicly, satanically, ritual, ritually abused
37:22
individual ever. Look what they did.
37:24
That's what Satanic ritual abuse is.
37:26
Now a lot of the times the enemy will do the stuff behind closed
37:29
doors in order to gain some type of control or observation or
37:35
some type of, you know, webbing or weaving with these
37:37
individuals. Now what I'd like to ask you is
37:41
with your supernatural experiences, because it's, it's
37:45
lining up with like the enemy would be very interested in
37:49
using you right? Or, or having some type of
37:51
connection to you. Umm, were you battling any of
37:57
this opposition in the spirit realm?
37:59
Like as you're telling these stories and as you're growing
38:01
up, are you praying? Are you like, what is this
38:03
battle of this clash with the the deeper realities of the
38:08
supernatural realm that you're expressing through these
38:11
encounters? Well, it was it was all of these
38:13
things were kind of unusual, but let me say, instead of maybe
38:17
making them into stumbling blocks, I made them into
38:20
stepping stones because I was already grounded.
38:22
It's such an early age about the, you know, about what the
38:26
Bible said. I mean, I was very astute in
38:29
reading and wanting to know because it that like I said that
38:33
ages 6, immediately I, I became very interested because I felt
38:38
like I was going to see the end of days.
38:39
And so everything that happened, I wanted to know more about it.
38:43
I mean, I would study the different religions.
38:46
Am I understanding the right religion?
38:47
What are the other religions offering?
38:49
I mean, I didn't limit to what I read, but the thing that I
38:54
always had as my foundational stone that anything that went
38:58
against what I already knew to be true, I, it made it a red
39:02
flag. Let's find out why people
39:04
believe this. Let's find out how that really
39:06
happened. Let's do the research on it and
39:08
know the truth about it. You know, and I, I went at it
39:11
like an attorney. I hate to say it, but I'd go
39:14
through the depths of it because I wanted to answer the questions
39:18
that I had. And, and you know, it wasn't
39:20
going to be for me ever. I didn't think I'd ever be in a
39:22
pulpit or whatever. I didn't think I'd be writing
39:25
books or anything of that nature.
39:27
I was doing all of this because I wanted to know this for
39:31
myself. I felt like it was that
39:33
important. So like I said, say, when I was
39:36
in my undergraduate work and I was hearing about people who
39:39
were going through these experiences and the remote view
39:41
and the Transcendental Meditation and the drugs and
39:44
things of that nature. Thank goodness I was already
39:46
ground. I never drank, I never smoked, I
39:49
never used drugs. I don't have any tattoos.
39:51
I mean, I, I literally have tried to lead my life as clean
39:56
as as I could. Not saying that I haven't
39:58
sinned. Yes, we all sin.
40:00
I made some bad choices in my life.
40:02
I wish I could go back and make, you know, to change those
40:04
choices, but. Again, I always tried to make
40:07
them stepping stones to learn from it, to ask for forgiveness
40:11
and get back on the right track. And so thank goodness I had that
40:15
kind of foundation. I had that foundation, but my
40:20
interest in it was to learn what is it about the enemy that I
40:24
need to know about? Because a good really a good
40:27
general that is going to fight against another general and a
40:31
different army. If I don't know my enemy and if
40:35
I don't know exactly how they work and how they meant
40:39
manipulate and work you, you're never going to understand what
40:43
it is to fight against a principality and a power and a
40:46
higher place that you cannot see because demonic activity, you
40:51
don't know where it's coming from it.
40:52
I have a friend that wrote a book about boxing blindfold with
40:55
demons. It's very true.
40:57
You literally are boxing with something that you don't know
41:00
when you're going to be hit, but you've got to be willing to say
41:04
stand back up in the ring and go at it again instead of giving
41:07
up. And so all through my life, from
41:10
the time I was born, I was a sickly kid.
41:14
I'm talking about I had some bad things, very bad trauma kind of
41:19
things in hospitals and things as a young child that I
41:23
encountered. And that was probably the reason
41:25
I never wanted to be a medical doctor, because I literally
41:28
hated doctors. And I mean that because it was
41:31
just that every time they gave me something, I got worse.
41:34
And I was very allergic to different kinds of things.
41:37
And so medications didn't work really well with me.
41:40
So all kinds of weird little things, things like that made me
41:44
already different and being a musician at an early age, I was
41:50
able to start playing the drums when I was six years old.
41:53
I play a lot of different instruments and, and I've always
41:57
said I walked to a different beat, maybe because I started
42:00
with that kind of thing. I don't, I don't, I don't know.
42:02
But what I'm saying is it I never had to be a part of the
42:06
crowd. I was liked by everybody.
42:09
I loved everybody. I treated everybody good.
42:12
And so I was always chosen to be, you know, a leader and
42:16
captain of the basketball team, all this kind of stuff,
42:18
especially, you know, in any of the things that I was involved
42:20
in and, and, and growing up. So it was not like I had to do
42:26
something to get you to appreciate or let me go and be a
42:30
part of the group. I was not.
42:32
A cliquish person through man, right?
42:34
So you know who you are in the spirit.
42:38
That's fascinating. And a lot of people I think can
42:40
resonate with that in their own story and setting with kind of
42:43
that emotion or that, you know what I mean?
42:46
Coming from behind the scenes. It's very fascinating.
42:48
You know, some of the stuff that you're you're bringing up with
42:51
these supernatural encounters. I got so many questions for but
42:53
for the sake of time, let's start moving into what what
42:57
we're going to look at with this series.
43:00
Right, yes. So you have written some
43:03
prolific books. You've been a best selling
43:06
author multiple different times. I think you said 16 books in
43:09
general. Yes, yes, so far.
43:10
Is there another one coming or are?
43:12
You the last one that I just did is Beast Mark and it's so
43:15
prevalent for what we're going through right now that I'm doing
43:19
everything that I can to keep the podcast going on that
43:23
particular book because we're living it right now.
43:26
Yeah, well. But I think in the future, if I,
43:29
if I do anything, I have an interest in the demonic.
43:32
I mean, I have a lot of research that I've done in the demonic
43:35
realm and how it all works. If I do a probably another book
43:38
it would probably be on the demonic.
43:40
Realm Insights and and this isn't a question I want to go
43:43
deep into, but just just throwing it out as a quick
43:47
caveat for me to hash out and and share with you anything on
43:51
the underwater kingdoms or water kingdoms that sparks interest
43:54
for you that you're willing to write about like the the water
43:59
kingdoms, aquatic kingdoms, spirits, demoniac that are
44:03
associated with. Water, yes.
44:07
Well, you know the thing that I, let me just say this, that that
44:11
any of that would be an interest to me and the reason I'm just
44:15
getting really quickly. When I was 8 years old, I had my
44:18
first encounter with a UAPAUFO and I was on the back seat of my
44:25
father's motorcycle. And I write about that story in
44:27
my book Parables of Joy on a Georgia Farm, if people want to
44:30
know about that, as well as the baptism and all that kind of
44:32
thing. But at that point in time, my
44:34
father was a pilot, and I'm talking about a crop duster
44:38
pilot. He floated small planes.
44:40
But in South Georgia when I was 8 years old, there were no
44:43
planes flying around at night. I can remember him taking me up
44:46
to Atlanta, GA, and there was one building and we had to wait
44:49
for hours to watch a plane land. And now there's millions of them
44:53
coming in and out. OK, so at night we are on his
44:58
motorcycle. He always took me for rides on
45:00
his motorcycle. I loved it.
45:01
And we got to the crossroads, was right above the house, and
45:04
this thing comes flying right across the treetops and
45:08
perfectly white. And it just keeps its strange
45:10
same trajectory and it doesn't fall.
45:13
It's not a meteorite. It's a perfectly round,
45:17
beautiful white object and he sees it as it flies past us and
45:22
he slams on brake, turns the engine off.
45:25
There's no sound. And we sit there and watch and
45:27
I'm looking over his shoulder just watching it cuz I knew I'd
45:30
never seen anything like that. And I had seen near your rats
45:32
fall and you all about stuff like that.
45:34
Living on the farm, there was no lights.
45:36
We got to see a lot of the beauty of the sky back in those
45:38
days. And I'll never forget when it
45:41
kept on going. He turned around at me and he'll
45:46
always call me girl. He's a girl.
45:48
Did you just see that? And I said, yes, Sir, I did.
45:53
And he just looked at me. So I don't know what that was.
45:56
And he turned, it got him so bad.
45:57
He turned around, went back to the house.
45:59
And my mother, she wasn't expecting us to come back for an
46:01
hour 'cause she knew how I'd like to ride at night after when
46:03
we got through on the farm. And she's, listen, what's wrong?
46:07
We come walking in and my grandparents just standing there
46:09
and my little sister and daddy said, you're just not gonna
46:12
believe what we just saw. He says, girl, tell him, just
46:14
tell him what we just saw. I said, well, Daddy, it was
46:17
something that I'd never seen before and I began describing it
46:20
and talking about it. And so, you know, he as a pilot
46:26
and I, you know, my dad was smart, man.
46:29
And so I was like seeing that as a child that I knew what I saw
46:33
was not something of this normal situation.
46:36
But anyway, the next day, if I'm not mistaken, when I came in
46:42
from school, he had a newspaper laying.
46:45
We always put things on the table that we wanted people to
46:48
look at. That was kind of where we put
46:50
stuff. And he had a paper that said
46:55
UFOs seen over the eastern coast last night and papers were not
47:01
too prevalent. So I don't know whether it was,
47:03
you know, an Atlanta constitution, which is a long
47:06
way, about four hours above me, or if it was a Jacksonville
47:10
paper. They had a Times Union back in
47:12
those days that would have been about 2 1/2 hours below me that
47:16
he might could have got a paper like that.
47:18
But he had a paper that showed that.
47:21
And so from that time on, Rod, I knew that there was something
47:25
here with us. And he bought me a telescope and
47:28
I talked about all of the thought.
47:30
I thought I wanted to be, you know, a astronaut and things of
47:32
that nature. So all of this has interested me
47:35
and I have had a lot of sightings and I am and was a
47:40
consultant for MUFON for years and years when Walt Andreas
47:43
started all of that really big. We used to talk on the telephone
47:46
for hours. But I have seen some very unique
47:50
and unusual craft and I have also done counseling with people
47:55
who say that they encountered these 3 foot beings that we call
48:00
Gray aliens. So I do bring up a lot of that
48:04
in in my research along with the demonic because I do believe.
48:07
I truly believe because I started using the same time that
48:11
Barry Dowling did. He started using when these
48:14
things come into the room or you encounter this, you claim the
48:18
name of Jesus and it's interesting.
48:21
No other name you can use Allah, you can use Muhammad.
48:26
They don't go away, but the moment that you use the name of
48:29
Jesus, I've had people say it went away and no more return
48:33
because they used the name of Jesus.
48:35
Well, in Scripture, you know who was the things that Jesus
48:39
controlled by his name demonic activity.
48:43
So I truly believe that these things are not from Pleiades,
48:47
and I know that the new UAP stuff and all the congressional
48:50
hearings is going on right now. We've got to be really careful
48:54
because I fully believe those things have been with us from
48:58
day one. This is not something that's
49:00
been manufactured. And that's why I asked about
49:04
aquatic kingdoms, or underwater bases, if you will, because it
49:09
is the tip of the spear in the fringe conversation.
49:13
So, are you familiar with the gentleman named Gary Wayne?
49:16
Yes, I am. So Gary's I think had like 11 or
49:20
12 appearances and we did a Aquatic Kingdom episode not too
49:26
long ago. By the time the audience hears
49:28
this, it'll only be 1520 episodes ago possibly.
49:32
And, and he even says, Rod, this is the tip of the spear in the
49:36
weird space, right? Because there's a lot of
49:38
conversation about them trying to project our thoughts outward.
49:42
They want us to look up to the stars.
49:44
They want us to look up and. That's right, and they are here
49:47
with us. Down below, that's right.
49:49
And there's some scriptures and and so Gary ends up saying, Rod,
49:53
you may be provoking me to write a book based on this aquatic
49:57
Kingdom because I had a style of questions and references
50:02
biblically that were he said good connections.
50:05
And the reason I'm bringing it up is because no one else is
50:06
doing this. The aquatic Kingdom conversation
50:09
is the tip of the spear. Weird.
50:12
And that's. Well, you know, you've got your,
50:15
you've got, well, you've got your Uaps that we have the
50:18
congressional people hearing about that they're coming out of
50:21
the ocean. That's right.
50:23
Yeah. Columbus's.
50:24
Original document, yes. Is he seeing these craft or he's
50:28
seeing a luminaries in the ocean coming up and out?
50:32
This is not something that's brand new.
50:34
And then I have tons of questions.
50:36
I don't want to make an aquatic episode.
50:38
Maybe we'll do something in the future on it, but I just felt
50:41
led to ask you. If well, I believe that all
50:44
that's connected and I believe that they have been here with us
50:46
from the beginning and that is the perfect place for them to be
50:50
and to stay in the center and all parts of the earth.
50:53
And the thing about it is, it's the majority of people.
50:55
If you do any kind of UFO stuff and you talk about great aliens
50:59
and people who have abductions, the one thing that they will
51:02
say, the smell, that it is a sulfuric smell.
51:08
That's the one thing noted. Well, guess what's sulfuric in
51:11
the middle of our Earth and all that.
51:13
And a lot of the things I question about what's really
51:17
under our Earth because it tells us that hell is below us.
51:21
There's no doubt in my mind. And if you think about how many
51:24
of these Uaps are being seen every time there is a volcanic
51:28
activity. Wow.
51:30
And a lot. Of how many volcanoes are in the
51:32
ocean? How many volcans are covered by
51:35
the ocean? And it's, it's, it's almost so I
51:39
see things as multi like I call it the multi layered effect, the
51:42
multi layered reality. When you have enough effects
51:45
that eventually you start to build a, as the Bible says, put
51:48
on the mind of Christ, washing your mind in the word,
51:51
transforming the way that you think, right?
51:54
You know, taking every thought captive into the obedience of
51:57
the Christ. All things are made by Christ
51:59
for Christ through Christ. This is not strange for me and I
52:03
don't think it is for many of the listeners, although there's
52:05
new listeners here. But this idea of water is
52:09
different in property and restriction and movement.
52:13
It's almost another dimension if you can say it that way, right?
52:19
And so I think that these multi layered lies from the Kingdom of
52:23
darkness are to skew the mind or the thinking, the trajectory of
52:28
pattern recognition intelligences.
52:30
You're a pattern recognition intelligence.
52:31
So am I. I see patterns and things and I
52:34
ask what I'm the only thing I'm known for.
52:37
Doctor Joy is asking questions relentlessly and not giving up
52:41
regardless of what happens, right?
52:44
That's what I'm known for. And so when we're coming to the
52:47
table and we're looking at this is the enemy lying and and you
52:52
know, they're saying, oh, we're not multi dimensional.
52:54
We're from a spaceship, a rock far away, Pleiades or, you know,
52:59
this group or that the the stars system outside of Alpha
53:03
Centauri, whatever they want to try to tell us.
53:04
OK, but are they really coming from a different dimension?
53:11
Not in the spooky Hollywood version where it's like we're
53:15
going to, you know, zoom in and out of these different
53:18
dimensions. You can't.
53:19
You can't see me now. You can see me now.
53:20
You can't. Yeah.
53:21
I believe in holographic technology.
53:23
Absolutely. Yeah.
53:24
I believe that angels are appearing and disappearing, you
53:29
know, dematerializing and showing up, going into fires.
53:32
They're biblically. This is not a problem.
53:35
But wouldn't it be interesting if they had a language war
53:39
against us? They're in the very waters below
53:42
the surface, the crust of the earth, right?
53:45
And they're having us assume that there's no dimension.
53:49
Because demons are spirits, right?
53:52
Wandering spirits. We have a spirit.
53:55
God himself is a spirit right? He's also an all consuming fire.
54:00
He's also these everlasting waters flow out of believers.
54:04
He is the everlasting pure water that you don't need to drink a
54:07
gun from. If you drink from him.
54:10
Where's the void? No one is talking about the
54:12
aquatic Kingdom and the fact that it is a different dimension
54:16
experientially in the physicality, in the physical.
54:19
And so they're always trying to push us to these like ethereal
54:23
out there, out there. And I'm not right out there.
54:26
There's another ocean above. That's.
54:30
Right, they definitely don't want us to know about the one
54:33
here. Which makes me go.
54:36
Question. Do an aquatic episode.
54:39
I'm actually going to put a whole 2 hours with you to that
54:43
later down the road. But you said the other question.
54:45
Well, you know, we think about why we can't go up into the
54:49
certain areas of the Earth. You know, we're kept from going
54:52
into Antarctica and all that kind of stuff.
54:56
It's a little bit weird. And the treaties keep people
54:58
from doing that. And all the things that Admiral
55:01
Byrd said about Middle Earth, I mean, there's just I know all
55:05
about that and Hitler and how he was involved in and all these
55:09
kind of things and how he had a place called Camelot and they
55:11
would remote, you know, review and a lot of our NASA and
55:16
cosmonaut programs were started by project paper clip.
55:19
I mean, there's just some of that that you can't go.
55:22
This is just fake, false information.
55:24
This is not this is real. And yes, I believe those things
55:28
are here been they've been here with us and it says in scripture
55:32
they were locked in. And I'm not so sure that some of
55:34
this CERN that we're doing, that we're trying to open some abyss
55:39
and bring those things out because it says at the end of
55:42
days that they're going to have stingers in their tails and you
55:44
can't stop them and that, you know, they don't die.
55:46
And if flesh, in other words, if the time was not cut short, that
55:50
the flesh would not even be able to survive this.
55:53
I really do. And I tell you, it's the people
55:55
that I've seen on those ships with our military that have come
55:58
forward on those UAP documentations and stuff before
56:01
the Congressional committee. You can look at those men and
56:04
tell you they're not telling you a story.
56:06
They saw those things come out of the ocean.
56:08
We have record of it, its own video, its own tape, its own all
56:14
the radar technology that we have.
56:17
And I tell you now that we can see infrared and ultraviolet,
56:20
we've got capabilities that our own eyes could never see until
56:24
now. But yeah, they want to make us
56:25
believe it's out there, but it's not right.
56:27
It's right here with us. And wow, what a cliffhanger, Dr.
56:33
Joy Pew, absolutely an honor for this Part 1 to get your
56:37
testimony and some, you know, overview thoughts about what
56:40
we're going to be talking about in the future.
56:42
I'm going to ask you as we wind down for this Part 1, plug in
56:45
where you can be found preference of where people can
56:49
pick up your books. And why don't you tell us about
56:50
the two most recent books that you would recommend listeners to
56:55
grab? Well my 2 most recent books are
56:57
Beguile, Eden, Armageddon, it's of volume 1-2 and three series
57:01
and then the latest book is called Be Smart, End of Days,
57:04
Breaching the Pineal Gland and that is the latest book.
57:07
You can find them at WWW. Doctor Joy DRJOYE dot com and
57:14
the links are there to be able to purchase the books.
57:17
And of course I I promote my my publisher because he allows me
57:21
to write without making me change anything.
57:23
Like a lot of these publishers. As long as you write it there
57:26
away, it's OK. I really want to be able to put
57:29
in there what God has told me to put in there and not have
57:31
anybody changing that. So if you can buy it from a
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publisher, the links are there to be able to do that.
57:37
And you can follow me on my Facebook page, which is Joy Joye
57:42
and the last name is PUPUGHI do have 5000 Facebook friends.
57:47
So I can't ask you to be a Facebook friend, but you can be
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a follower. And my page is public, so all
57:53
the shows that I'm on, you can see it.
57:56
I do have a show every every month at the end of the month.
57:59
It's called Doctor Joyce ask me anything, AMA show and it's from
58:03
8 to 10 on YouTube on it's 8 to 10 Eastern on YouTube the last
58:08
Monday night of every month this coming month that we're in right
58:11
now, I'll be actually doing that show next Monday night from 8 to
58:15
10 on YouTube. So you can check in with me
58:19
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58:24
link there and just click on it and you can listen to the show.
58:26
But every other show it, it's always the last Monday night of
58:29
the month. Doctor Joy, you guys, I will
58:33
have links in the details of the show notes on this episode.
58:36
So you can click that link, go to her website, find a copy of
58:39
her book, and she will be back in the very near future.
58:43
And we're going to get into AI cloning chimeras.
58:48
Is the veil thinning and what is really happening with the end
58:53
times scenario that we might be living in today?
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