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The Somali formally known as Ilhan Omar · David Pollack Primetime

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Speaker 1: Who is Ilhan Omar?
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Speaker 2: Until this week, you might have said she was a
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Speaker 2: sitting Congresswoman from Minnesota.
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Speaker 1: But it turns out that there's no such thing as
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Speaker 1: Ilhan Omar. That's right.
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Speaker 2: This week, federal prosecutors in Washington filed a motion signed
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Speaker 2: by U.S. Attorney Jeanine Pirro that refers to Congresswoman Ilhan
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Speaker 2: Omar as Congresswoman Ilhan Nursaid Elmi.
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Speaker 1: A.K.A.
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Speaker 2: ELON ABDULI OMAR. THE FILING CALLS HER THE SUBJECT. SO
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Speaker 2: WHY DOES A NAME EVEN MATTER, RIGHT? Ahmed Nur said Elmi.
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Speaker 2: It has long been rumored that the Somali, formerly known
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Speaker 2: as Ilhan Omar, married her brother, and for 10 years,
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Speaker 2: she's denied it. Now, Somali names usually carry the father's name,
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Speaker 2: and women don't usually take a husband's name, so critics
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Speaker 2: read that filing as pointing to the same father. Then
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Speaker 2: Wednesday night, Chris Hayes asked her directly. And shocking, I
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Speaker 2: know we didn't get a direct response.
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Speaker 3: Look, they just kind of went and like found random
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Speaker 3: people who are like she introduced us. You know, she
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Speaker 3: introduced him to us and said he was her brother,
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Speaker 3: which is, you know, insane. I mean, I don't I
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Speaker 3: don't know those people that they talk about.
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Speaker 4: He was not you were not related to him at all.
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Speaker 5: Not to my knowledge.
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Speaker 1: Not to my knowledge?
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Speaker 2: Isn't that something you'd really want to go and kind
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Speaker 2: of be 100% sure about?
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Speaker 1: I mean, I could be related, but whatever. True love.
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Speaker 1: But back in.
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Speaker 2: 2018, she told the Star Tribune, if someone was asking me,
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Speaker 2: do I have a brother by that name, I don't.
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Speaker 2: That was a flat no, a denial. And this week's
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Speaker 2: answer sounds a lot more like a lawyer's answer. And today,
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Speaker 2: the New York Post published a story claiming it can
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Speaker 2: connect the dots to suggest that the Somali formerly known
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Speaker 2: as Ilhan Omar did, in fact, marry her brother. Let's
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Speaker 2: break down how they came to that conclusion. First, in
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Speaker 2: that court filing, the Justice Department called her Ilan Nur
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Speaker 2: said Elmi. Second, the man she married in 2009, Ahmed Nur,
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Speaker 2: said Elmi. Same name after the first name. Third, the
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Speaker 2: Post published a 1997 London marriage certificate.
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Speaker 1: Not Omar's.
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Speaker 2: It belongs to a woman named Leela, who the Post
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Speaker 2: says is Omar's sister. It lists Leela's father as Nur
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Speaker 2: said Elmi. And the Post sources say that that is
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Speaker 2: Omar's father. So if you're able to follow all that,
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Speaker 2: and the post is right, all three trace back to
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Speaker 2: the same father's name.
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Speaker 1: And that's the heart of the whole brother claim.
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Speaker 2: And then last night, President Trump took to Truth Social
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Speaker 2: and said this. Because she used a fake name to
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Speaker 2: be sworn in, I assume she must immediately resign from Congress.
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Speaker 2: Please inform the Speaker of the House of Representatives, James
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Speaker 2: Michael Johnson, I didn't know that was his middle name,
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Speaker 2: that the Democrat Party has just conceded her seat. Ilhan
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Speaker 2: Nur said, Elmi, her real name, has openly admitted to
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Speaker 2: fraud and she will not be legally allowed to be
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Speaker 2: a member of this August body from this point forth.
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Speaker 2: Her office's answer, this is completely false. Ilhan Omar is
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Speaker 2: her real name. And no post removes a member of Congress.
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Speaker 2: Expelling her would take a two-thirds vote in the House.
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Speaker 1: Now, let's be fair.
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Speaker 2: The sister's link or the sister link rests on the
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Speaker 2: post sources and old social media posts, not any document yet.
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Speaker 2: And Omar has continued to deny the brother claim, you know,
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Speaker 2: to her knowledge.
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Speaker 1: So we'll give her the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Speaker 2: But the question remains, why did federal prosecutors put that
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Speaker 2: name in the public filing? And why can't a congresswoman
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Speaker 2: give a yes or a no about her own family?
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Speaker 2: Joining me now, the host of Turning Point tonight on
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Speaker 2: Real America's Voice, Joe Bob Tlaife.
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Speaker 1: Joe Bob. Welcome back to the public prime time.
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Speaker 2: I'm calling her the Somali formerly known as Ilhan Omar,
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Speaker 2: because as of this moment, I don't know what her
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Speaker 2: real name is.
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Speaker 1: What are we thinking?
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Speaker 2: Is this controversy bigger than anything ever in history? A
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Speaker 2: congresswoman that may have been elected not with her own
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Speaker 2: name and may even not even be a citizen.
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Speaker 6: Oh, brother, David, you're getting all into the weeds here.
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Speaker 6: And I think you're actually uncovering something. You know what
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Speaker 6: I really thought is fascinating. So that clip you played
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Speaker 6: of the well, not to my knowledge, everybody heard that part.
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Speaker 6: But what I think is fascinating earlier on in that
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Speaker 6: part of the interview. Chris Hayes, who for some reason
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Speaker 6: also looks like Rachel Maddow. I think their whole network
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Speaker 6: is just trying to be Rachel Maddow impersonators. But the
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Speaker 6: he says, where did this start? And then she starts
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Speaker 6: talking about, well, it actually started in a Somali blog
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Speaker 6: to which I would hold. Whoa, wait a minute. Hold on.
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Speaker 6: The Somalis were the ones that started this. And then
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Speaker 6: right wing conspiracy theorists took.
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Speaker 1: It out of it. But it started in her community.
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Speaker 6: You know why? Because she probably introduced him. Hey, this
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Speaker 6: is my brother. And you know how we all do fraud.
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Speaker 6: We're going to do some fraud with my brother here,
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Speaker 6: who's now my husband, by the way. And somebody in
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Speaker 6: the Somali community is like, hey, isn't this hilarious?
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Speaker 1: Probably.
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Speaker 6: Again, I don't know the specific details, but she herself
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Speaker 6: told the cameras in the world. No, this actually started
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Speaker 6: in the Somali community. And it's the right wing MAGA's fault.
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Speaker 2: You know, that's a great point. But this thing has
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Speaker 2: so many layers of interesting, right? I mean, just the
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Speaker 2: fact that her house was raided by DHS and everyone
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Speaker 2: was talking about, can't she even be deported now? The
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Speaker 2: fact that she might have lied on her immigration paperwork.
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Speaker 2: She might not even be a citizen. You know, her
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Speaker 2: father may have lied. I mean, there are so many
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Speaker 2: weird things just with her citizenship. But then the why
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Speaker 2: is even more interesting, because if you are going to
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Speaker 2: kind of fake your way as a U.S.
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Speaker 1: Citizen, the last thing you'd want to do is run
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Speaker 1: for Congress, right, and make.
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Speaker 2: Yourself as high-profile as possible, and then not just be
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Speaker 2: a congresswoman, but then be a high-profile congresswoman that shouts
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Speaker 2: at the president during states of the union. I mean,
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Speaker 2: somebody who's so blatantly anti-American. It's like she was begging
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Speaker 2: people to look into her. And if you know this
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Speaker 2: is in your history, you think you'd be more careful.
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Speaker 2: So the question, Joe Bob— I mean, is this even
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Speaker 2: more nefarious? Is she a congresswoman because she was put
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Speaker 2: in that place to facilitate something larger? I mean, because
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Speaker 2: this just seems too impossible to be stupid and coincidental.
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Speaker 6: So, okay, to take it seriously, yeah, she definitely could
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Speaker 6: be testing the limits of American apathy towards fraud, people
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Speaker 6: defrauding their country. But on a more silly note, it
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Speaker 6: honestly sounds like an episode of Impractical Jokers, right? The
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Speaker 6: way that you frame it is like, okay, so we're
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Speaker 6: going to get you into the country. We're going to
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Speaker 6: get you under citizenship illegally because you're going to say
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Speaker 6: you're 17. That makes you a child, so you can
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Speaker 6: go in under your dad. And then we're going to
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Speaker 6: try and get somebody else as a green card, so we're.
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Speaker 1: Going to marry. And then it's like, okay.
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Speaker 6: See if you can run for Congress next. And then
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Speaker 6: everybody's snickering in the background. And there's like, OK, well,
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Speaker 6: now be a super prominent congresswoman, part of the squad.
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Speaker 6: And like ultimately, at the end of the day, what
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Speaker 6: it really shows is what unfortunately American people seem to
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Speaker 6: be willing to put up with or at least her
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Speaker 6: congressional district. And the answer, unfortunately, is way, way too
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Speaker 6: much corruption, fraud, corruption.
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Speaker 1: Or ideology.
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Speaker 6: There's a number of different things that they're unfortunately accepting
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Speaker 6: in that part of the country that, you know, is questionable,
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Speaker 6: to say the least. Now, to your point of like
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Speaker 6: whether or not she's like pushing the boundaries, I totally
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Speaker 6: think that's a possibility. I'm not willing to jump to
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Speaker 6: that conclusion as of yet. I'm going to let this
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Speaker 6: play out. from a legal standpoint. But if we found
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Speaker 6: out that actually her father, who was a part of
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Speaker 6: the Somali military, they still have ties to what's going
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Speaker 6: on in Somalia, trying to get foreign aid and planting
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Speaker 6: somebody in. If all of that came out and turned
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Speaker 6: out to be true, I would go, yeah, that sounds
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Speaker 6: about right.
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Speaker 2: The fact that we're even having this discussion is crazy
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Speaker 2: by itself. I want to get more information. I think
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Speaker 2: we will get some more information very soon. I think
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Speaker 2: as The legal process moves forward. I think more things
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Speaker 2: are going to come out. I mean, the fact that
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Speaker 2: Ilhan Omar isn't even her name.
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Speaker 1: It's just, did you see that twist coming? I mean,
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Speaker 1: that's where I'm getting at here. This whole thing, just.
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Speaker 2: Getting stranger and stranger. And here's what's annoying about all
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Speaker 2: of this. Every Democrat's going to call it lawfare. Every
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Speaker 2: Democrat's going to be like, no, no, no, no, you're
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Speaker 2: just targeting her because she's Somali. Every Democrat's going to
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Speaker 2: say you guys are just racist and this phobic and
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Speaker 2: that phobic and all these other things. They're not going
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Speaker 2: to take this seriously. And God forbid we lose the
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Speaker 2: House here in less than two weeks. This thing is
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Speaker 2: going to probably get swept under the rug, and we
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Speaker 2: might not get an answer to that question, Joe Babas,
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Speaker 2: how that she became a citizen, how she got elected
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Speaker 2: to Congress, how her husband's businesses were worth $ 30 million
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Speaker 2: and then back down to not worth much at all.
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Speaker 1: These are serious.
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Speaker 2: Issues for national security purposes that we have to figure out,
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Speaker 2: and hopefully we figure.
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Speaker 1: Them out sooner rather than later.
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Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, the only thing I'd push back on
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Speaker 6: that is I don't think this is going to get
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Speaker 6: swept under the rug. I think this is too big
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Speaker 6: of a story at this point. So even let's let's.
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Speaker 6: say that the Democrats take back the House and the
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Speaker 6: Senate even. There's no way that the DOJ is just like, ah,
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Speaker 6: never mind. Because remember, all of this started, this investigation
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Speaker 6: started under the Biden administration. And also, it wasn't just
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Speaker 6: the admin going off on their own. They had to
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Speaker 6: get a judge to sign off on a warrant. So
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Speaker 6: like none of this is like specifically strictly as partisan
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Speaker 6: as they claim. Oh, the Democrats, this is lawfare. You know,
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Speaker 6: the Democrats have never done any sort of lawfare whatsoever. Uh,
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Speaker 6: didn't they arrest a president? I vaguely remember that happening anyways. Um,
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Speaker 6: the good news is I genuinely think this is one
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Speaker 6: of those stories that is too big to just go
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Speaker 6: away magically. And, and at some point she's going to
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Speaker 6: have to kind of face the music, uh, which hopefully
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Speaker 6: that music is playing a tune of, uh, deportation out
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Speaker 6: of the country.
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Speaker 1: And we will see.
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's a good chance she gets deported and
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Speaker 2: they don't even expel her from Congress.
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Speaker 1: So we'll see how that works. I have to look
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Speaker 1: into the law on this.
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Speaker 2: What happens if she gets deported, if she can vote
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Speaker 2: by proxy or something? Anyhow, Joe Bob, thank you so
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Speaker 2: much for being here. Great having you, as always. Talk
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Speaker 2: to you real soon, my friend.
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Speaker 6: Appreciate it. Thank you.
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Speaker 2: Still ahead tonight, federal judge in Oakland just drew a
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Speaker 2: line on how federal agents can look for non-citizen voters
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Speaker 2: in nine states. Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin among them. Simon Hankinson
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Speaker 2: of the Heritage Foundation joins me with all the details.
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Speaker 2: How many times have we opened up a segment with
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Speaker 1: It's almost a meme at this point.
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Speaker 2: And now, 11 days before the election, a federal judge
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Speaker 2: in Oakland has told the Department of Homeland Security how
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Speaker 2: it can and can't Look for non-citizens voting in nine states, California, Connecticut, Georgia, Missouri, Nevada,
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Speaker 2: New York, Pennsylvania, Washington, and Wisconsin. And a lot of
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Speaker 2: those names are really important swing states. Here's what the
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Speaker 2: order does. Through Election Day, it says agents can't do
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Speaker 2: election-related field visits or interviews with people they, quote, know, suspect,
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Speaker 2: or should reasonably know or suspect are U.S.
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Speaker 1: Citizens.
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Speaker 2: Well, What sense does that make? If they thought they
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Speaker 2: were U.S. citizens, they wouldn't be interviewing them. The order
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Speaker 2: also says they can't send agents after people they suspect
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Speaker 2: are citizens based only on a new DHS list that
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Speaker 2: matched voter rolls against federal records. She found that that
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Speaker 2: list was built partly from commercial voter files and that
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Speaker 2: there is, quote, in her words, no federal database containing
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Speaker 2: citizenship status. She put her order on hold until 5
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Speaker 2: o'clock today and as of this morning.
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Speaker 1: The administration hadn't appealed it yet. So there is some
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Speaker 1: good news, though.
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Speaker 2: This isn't a ban on investigating non-citizen voting. The judge
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Speaker 2: wrote that it does not prevent defendants from exercising their
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Speaker 2: authority to investigate voter fraud by lawful means. And DHS
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Speaker 2: says it has no plans to question or investigate people
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Speaker 2: we believe to be U.S.
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Speaker 1: Citizens, which kind of makes a lot of sense, right?
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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, in California this week, federal prosecutors charged 28 green
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Speaker 2: card holders.
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Speaker 1: Six are charged with voting as non-citizens.
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Speaker 2: The other 22 face felonies, mostly for lying on citizenship
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Speaker 2: or voter registration paperwork.
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Speaker 1: Those are charges, too, not convictions.
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Speaker 2: We'll let things play out, but it surely questions the
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Speaker 2: narrative that no non-citizens vote, right? And when the AP's
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Speaker 2: headline said immigrants were being, quote, targeted... MY GUEST SIMON
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Speaker 2: HANKINSON PUT IT THIS WAY, NONCITIZENS WHO ARE FORBIDDEN BY
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Speaker 2: LAW FROM VOTING IN FEDERAL ELECTIONS ARE BEING PROSECUTED FOR
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Speaker 2: BREAKING THE LAW.
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Speaker 1: SO WHICH IS IT?
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Speaker 2: IS THE GOVERNMENT CHASING A REAL CRIME WITH SLOPPY TOOLS?
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Speaker 2: IS ONE JUDGE IN OAKLAND WRITING ELECTION SEASON RULES FOR
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Speaker 2: NINE STATES? AND IF THE DATA IS BAD, WHO FIXES
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Speaker 2: IT BEFORE NOVEMBER 3? NOBODY SHOULD WANT AN AGENT KNOCKING
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Speaker 2: ON THE WRONG DOOR. casting a ballot that cancels out
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Speaker 2: the vote of an American citizen.
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Speaker 1: The fight is over who draws that line.
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Speaker 2: Joining me now is a man who spent more than
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Speaker 2: two decades as an American diplomat, U.S. Foreign Service officer,
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Speaker 2: and now a senior research fellow at the Heritage Foundation's
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Speaker 2: Border Security and Immigration Center, Simon Hankinson.
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Speaker 1: Welcome to David Pollak Prime Time.
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Speaker 2: It's crazy that we have to go this far into
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Speaker 2: ensuring that non-citizens aren't voting in our elections from a
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Speaker 2: federal level because states like California and other blue states
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Speaker 2: refuse to put things in place to keep non-citizens from voting.
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Speaker 2: And now we have to go back and forth to
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Speaker 2: court arguing with how much we can do at the
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Speaker 2: federal level to ensure non-citizens aren't voting. WHICH IS CRAZY
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Speaker 2: CONSIDERING THE DEMOCRATS HAVE CLAIMED THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE SAVE AMERICA
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Speaker 2: ACT FIGHT THAT NON-CITIZENS AREN'T VOTING.
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Speaker 1: THAT'S NOT A REAL THING.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's depressing that this has become a partisan political issue.
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Speaker 7: But you were saying before that nobody wants non-citizens to vote.
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Speaker 1: I disagree. I think the.
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Speaker 7: Democrats have calculated, look, it's no holds barred, let's face it,
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Speaker 7: on both sides right now, whether it comes to redistricting,
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Speaker 7: packing the Supreme Court, adding two states. The Democrats are
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Speaker 7: doing what they think will get them power in perpetuity.
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Speaker 7: And I think they understand, as Republicans do, that an
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Speaker 7: illegal immigrant or an immigrant is more statistically more likely
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Speaker 7: to vote Democrat than Republican. That's just, I think, a fact,
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Speaker 7: particularly illegal immigrants, if they ever did vote.
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Speaker 6: Now, does it happen a lot?
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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't.
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Speaker 7: But that shouldn't stop us from trying to make sure
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Speaker 7: it never happens. That's a pretty obvious thing that's in
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Speaker 7: the national interest. And as you say, states like California,
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Speaker 7: they don't care. They make the bar so low that
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Speaker 7: it's almost comical. They should have passed the SAVE Act.
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Speaker 7: Everybody should have to show some kind of federal real
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Speaker 7: ID before they vote. That's not something that is unusual.
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Speaker 7: Every other country I've ever been to, and I've been
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Speaker 7: to 80 or so and lived in eight, requires you
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Speaker 7: to have some kind of national ID before you can vote.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's the thing.
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Speaker 2: Most Americans, by polling, over 80%, ALL AMERICANS, NOT REPUBLICANS,
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Speaker 2: ALL AMERICANS, 80% PLUS, THINK YOU SHOULD HAVE TO SHOW
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Speaker 2: AN I.D.
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Speaker 1: TO VOTE.
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Speaker 2: AND MORE THAN THAT, ALREADY ASSUMED THAT YOU HAVE TO
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Speaker 2: BE A CITIZEN TO REGISTER. PEOPLE ARE SHOCKED TO FIND
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Speaker 2: OUT THAT THERE'S SOME STATES THAT DON'T EVEN MAKE YOU
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Speaker 2: PROVE YOU'RE A CITIZEN TO REGISTER. PEOPLE JUST ASSUMED THAT
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Speaker 2: WAS THE CASE. AND YET EVERY ATTEMPT THAT THIS CONGRESS
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Speaker 2: HAS DONE TO TRY TO THE PEOPLE WHO SHOW UP
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Speaker 2: AND VOTE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED And yet,
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Speaker 2: here we are, right? Noncitizens are voting. And it is ridiculous. And,
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Speaker 2: you know, I agree with what you're saying. If the
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Speaker 2: Democrats didn't benefit from it, maybe they would have some
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Speaker 2: interest in.
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Speaker 1: Seeing these laws tightened up.
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Speaker 2: So, you know, you have to wonder, you know, why
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Speaker 2: don't they do something about it?
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Speaker 1: And I think you know the answer to that.
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Speaker 2: Now, we did get some good news today out of
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Speaker 2: the Fifth Circuit with respect to detaining illegal aliens.
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Speaker 1: Can you talk about that a little bit?
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I haven't had a chance to read the entire decision,
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Speaker 7: but it was an en banc, and that's a little
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Speaker 7: bit of a legal area that I'm not expert in.
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Speaker 7: But it was a decision by the Fifth Circuit that
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Speaker 7: the Trump administration, that the federal government, not just Trump administration,
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Speaker 7: any administration, can continue to detain people who are caught
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Speaker 7: in the interior of the country illegally living here while
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Speaker 7: they're going through their due process to remove them. The
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Speaker 7: reason why that's important is because up to now, it
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Speaker 7: has been accepted that they should, in fact, it says
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Speaker 7: they shall in the law, detain people caught illegally entering
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Speaker 7: at the border But when they're picked up in the interior,
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Speaker 7: it was less clear. And of course, the administration argues
18:55
Speaker 7: that if they have to release people, then they've got
18:58
Speaker 7: to go find them again when they get their order
19:00
Speaker 7: to be removed. And that becomes incredibly difficult. We have
19:02
Speaker 7: all kinds of good stats on that. If they're detained,
19:05
Speaker 7: like 99% will be sent home. But if they're not detained,
19:08
Speaker 7: it goes down to like 20% or 5%, depending on
19:11
Speaker 7: what category. So this is good news. Obviously, we don't
19:13
Speaker 7: want to detain people for a long time. But you
19:16
Speaker 7: need to detain them sometimes for a few weeks and
19:18
Speaker 7: a few months until you can get them through their
19:20
Speaker 7: due process and then get them out. So I would
19:23
Speaker 7: consider this to be a victory for common sense and
19:26
Speaker 7: for applying immigration law.
19:28
Speaker 1: Yeah.
19:29
Speaker 2: Unbank means that all the judges made that decision together.
19:34
Speaker 2: But yes, if people remember... There was a time where
19:38
Speaker 2: there was this 200-mile rule or something.
19:40
Speaker 1: I forget how many exact miles.
19:41
Speaker 2: And if you had to be apprehended within a certain
19:43
Speaker 2: distance of the border, and if you were apprehended within
19:47
Speaker 2: a certain distance of the border, that's where the detention
19:49
Speaker 2: came in. I mean, they actually could turn them around
19:51
Speaker 2: and send them back across it. And the law, as
19:54
Speaker 2: you mentioned, does require detention. It's not— like, under the Biden administration,
19:58
Speaker 2: the reason why they're letting them go is that they
20:00
Speaker 2: said they didn't have the detention space. Trump solved that problem,
20:03
Speaker 2: building things like Alligator Alcatraz in Florida. And so detaining
20:07
Speaker 2: space wasn't an issue. And then the only other bugaboo,
20:10
Speaker 2: so to speak, was the fact that, oh, well, they're
20:12
Speaker 2: too far away from the border. They're in the interior
20:14
Speaker 2: of the country. We shouldn't be able to hold them.
20:16
Speaker 2: This is good news because what we really don't want
20:18
Speaker 2: is exactly like you said, these gotaways just sort of
20:21
Speaker 2: disappearing in the interior of the country. with no real
20:24
Speaker 2: chance to get them their due process that they so desire. So, yeah,
20:30
Speaker 2: good news and bad news coming out of the federal
20:32
Speaker 2: courts today.
20:32
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is this.
20:34
Speaker 2: We need to secure our border. We need to deport
20:36
Speaker 2: the people that are here illegally. We need to secure
20:39
Speaker 2: our elections and ensure that people who are here, even legally,
20:42
Speaker 2: but that are not qualified to vote because they're noncitizens,
20:44
Speaker 2: shouldn't be voting, right? I mean, this is all way
20:46
Speaker 2: too common sense for us to even have to argue.
20:48
Speaker 1: About it, I think, right?
20:50
Speaker 7: It certainly should be. I don't know if we'll ever
20:52
Speaker 7: get back to that place, but we seem to have
20:54
Speaker 7: politicized things that used to be really common sense. If
21:00
Speaker 7: there's an illegal immigrant here who has a criminal record
21:02
Speaker 7: and is likely to be a recidivist, rapist, murderer, burglar,
21:07
Speaker 7: we don't want him here. We want him back wherever
21:08
Speaker 7: he comes from so that he's a risk to them
21:10
Speaker 7: and not to us. That should be common sense. We
21:12
Speaker 7: also want the law to work. If someone is ordered deported,
21:15
Speaker 7: we want to actually deport them. But that has been politicized.
21:19
Speaker 7: So this is not the end of it. The courts
21:21
Speaker 7: are going to continue to be crammed with immigration-related cases
21:25
Speaker 7: for the foreseeable future.
21:27
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're exactly right, sadly.
21:29
Speaker 2: And the crazy part about all of this is, you know,
21:31
Speaker 2: some of the arguments that they make to try to
21:33
Speaker 2: hurt President Trump when President Trump touts how many people
21:36
Speaker 2: left voluntarily or have been deported. The Democrats' counterargument is, well,
21:40
Speaker 2: more people were deported under Obama. And then you pause
21:43
Speaker 2: and you're like, OK, I know you want to hurt
21:45
Speaker 2: the president, but if you're bragging about Obama deporting people,
21:48
Speaker 2: they clearly don't have a problem with enforcing our immigration
21:50
Speaker 2: laws when your guy's in the White House. So that's
21:53
Speaker 2: what makes this whole thing so ridiculous. Simon, thank you
21:55
Speaker 2: so much for being here and giving your take on this.
21:57
Speaker 8: No, thanks.
21:59
Speaker 2: Coming up, Arizona's attorney general race was a close call
22:03
Speaker 2: last time.
22:04
Speaker 1: The attorney general.
22:05
Speaker 2: There has sued the Trump administration again and again.
22:08
Speaker 1: Her Republican opponent calls that lawfare.
22:12
Speaker 2: Senate president and attorney general candidate Warren Peterson joins me.
22:16
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23:01
Speaker 2: While everybody's focused on the governor's race in Arizona, Katie
23:06
Speaker 2: Hobbs against Andy Biggs, there's another race that's just as important,
23:10
Speaker 2: the race for attorney general.
23:12
Speaker 1: Attorney general is the state's top lawyer.
23:16
Speaker 2: That's who decides whether Arizona takes the federal government to
23:20
Speaker 2: court or stands with it or goes to court over
23:23
Speaker 2: who stays on.
23:24
Speaker 1: The voter rolls.
23:26
Speaker 2: Right now, that's Democrat Chris Mays. She won the job
23:31
Speaker 2: in 2022 by 280 votes. You might recall that this
23:36
Speaker 2: was the election where ballot printers failed at about 70
23:41
Speaker 2: of Maricopa County's 223 voting centers on Election Day. And
23:47
Speaker 2: then where the recount turned up about 500 votes in
23:51
Speaker 2: Pinal County that weren't in the first count.
23:54
Speaker 1: Strange, right?
23:55
Speaker 2: I'll let you decide how much confidence that inspires in
23:58
Speaker 2: Maricopa's elections.
24:00
Speaker 1: And elections do have consequences.
24:02
Speaker 2: Since President Trump took office, she sued his administration 49 times.
24:07
Speaker 2: She brags about it 49 times in less than two years.
24:12
Speaker 1: But fortunately.
24:15
Speaker 2: Arizona, you have a chance to replace her with Senate
24:19
Speaker 2: President Warren Peterson, the Trump-endorsed Republican nominee for Attorney General.
24:24
Speaker 2: And while May's leads in some of the polls, some
24:28
Speaker 2: by a lot, some by very little, Peterson's campaign insists
24:32
Speaker 2: the race is statistically tied. And last night, Peterson posted
24:37
Speaker 2: his own count of early ballot returns.
24:40
Speaker 1: Republicans, 38.5%.
24:40
Speaker 2: Democrats, 38.7%. He wrote, there's no blue wave unless Republicans
24:48
Speaker 2: stop voting. Peterson is a third-generation Gilbert guy, Gilbert High, ASU,
24:54
Speaker 2: ASU Law. He's been in the state legislature since 2012,
24:57
Speaker 2: House Majority Leader, Senate Judiciary Chairman, and Senate President since 23.
25:02
Speaker 2: He says he isn't qualified because he only got his
25:06
Speaker 2: law license at.
25:07
Speaker 1: The end of 23. Like, that matters.
25:10
Speaker 2: He might be new to practicing law, but he's not
25:13
Speaker 2: new to making it. AND HE WANTS TO DOUBLE THE
25:15
Speaker 2: CRIMINAL PROSECUTORS AND INVESTIGATORS.
25:18
Speaker 1: HE WANTS LAW AND ORDER.
25:19
Speaker 2: HE WANTS TO GO AFTER CARTELS, TRAFFICKERS AND VIOLENT CRIMINALS
25:23
Speaker 2: AND SIGN ARIZONA UP FOR THE PROGRAM THAT LETS LOCAL
25:26
Speaker 2: POLICE WORK WITH ICE. WHEN HE SAYS HE'LL DEFEND THE
25:33
Speaker 2: LAWS ON THE BOOKS, EVEN THE ONES HE DOESN'T LIKE,
25:36
Speaker 2: THAT LAST ONE SHOULDN'T BE A CAMPAIGN PROMISE. IT SHOULD
25:38
Speaker 2: BE THE JOB DESCRIPTION. 280 VOTES DECIDED IT LAST TIME.
25:43
Speaker 1: IF YOU'VE GOT A BALLOT, ARIZONA, USE IT.
25:48
Speaker 2: NOW THE PRESIDENT OF THE ARIZONA STATE SENATE AND THE
25:50
Speaker 2: REPUBLICAN NOMINEE FOR ATTORNEY GENERAL, WARREN PETERSON. WARREN, WELCOME TO
25:53
Speaker 2: DAVE POLITIC PRIME TIME. THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT RACE.
25:56
Speaker 2: A LOT OF PEOPLE SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON IT. I
25:58
Speaker 2: KNOW PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT THE GOVERNOR'S RACE, BUT THIS
26:00
Speaker 2: ONE IS JUST AS IMPORTANT. LAW AND ORDER MATTERS, AND
26:03
Speaker 2: YOU'RE THE GUY FOR IT, RIGHT?
26:05
Speaker 3: ABSOLUTELY.
26:06
Speaker 9: YOU KNOW, WE MADE HISTORY IN THIS RACE. THIS IS
26:08
Speaker 9: THE FIRST TIME IN ARIZONA HISTORY WHERE THE CHALLENGER TO
26:11
Speaker 9: A SITTING REPUBLICAN OR TO A SITTING ATTORNEY GENERAL has
26:15
Speaker 9: received every major law enforcement endorsement in the state. So
26:19
Speaker 9: it says a lot when the top law officer in
26:22
Speaker 9: the state does not have the support from law enforcement.
26:27
Speaker 9: And we have received all of that support. We are
26:30
Speaker 9: going to turn the state around. She's taking us towards California.
26:33
Speaker 9: She's soft on crime. We're going to keep Arizona safe,
26:37
Speaker 9: defend the laws, as you mentioned, even the ones we
26:40
Speaker 9: disagree with. Unlike her, she's spending millions of dollars suing
26:44
Speaker 9: Trump That's money that should be used to keep Arizona safe.
26:48
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so much rides on this, by the way,
26:50
Speaker 2: because we have, not only is this election important, but
26:53
Speaker 2: the next one is supremely important as well. And we
26:57
Speaker 2: all know that sometimes in Arizona, certain counties have a
27:00
Speaker 2: hard time counting votes. Well, counting them isn't the problem.
27:03
Speaker 2: It's when they count them is the problem. And whoever
27:06
Speaker 2: is attorney general could have a lot to do with that. Plus,
27:09
Speaker 2: who votes is really important, too. We've seen places like California.
27:12
Speaker 2: We've seen the attorney general there block, essentially, the government
27:16
Speaker 2: from checking to see who shouldn't be registered to vote.
27:19
Speaker 2: And in a border state like yours, you have the
27:20
Speaker 2: same issue. Noncitizens could be registering to vote. That's why
27:23
Speaker 2: this is so important, right?
27:24
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely.
27:27
Speaker 9: I mean, there's infinite things you can think about where
27:30
Speaker 9: the attorney general affects the outcome. We actually have a
27:32
Speaker 9: list of 100 cases or briefs on my website that
27:36
Speaker 9: people can go see where I'm on the other side
27:38
Speaker 9: of Chris Mays, with your constitutional rights, with keeping your
27:42
Speaker 9: rates low, protecting our elections. It goes on and on
27:47
Speaker 9: and on. It's hard to imagine all of the damage
27:51
Speaker 9: that a really bad attorney general can do and all
27:54
Speaker 9: of the help and, you know, how a really good
27:57
Speaker 9: attorney general can protect your freedom, your liberty and your prosperity.
28:02
Speaker 2: Now, how do you feel about this upcoming election? I
28:05
Speaker 2: know your internal polling looks strong. It looks like the
28:08
Speaker 2: Republicans are turning out. I agree with you. I don't
28:11
Speaker 2: think this blue wave that they're predicting is actually going
28:14
Speaker 2: to come into fruition. We've seen this before, where the
28:16
Speaker 2: Republicans thought we were going to have this massive red wave,
28:19
Speaker 2: and it never worked out. I don't think the Democrats'
28:21
Speaker 2: turnout suggests a blue wave either. But how much can
28:24
Speaker 2: we trust that some of these things that we dealt
28:26
Speaker 2: with in the last election have been sort of hammered
28:29
Speaker 2: out where we can trust, will we get a result
28:31
Speaker 2: on election night?
28:33
Speaker 1: We can.
28:34
Speaker 9: I mean, in 2024, we crushed it. We won every
28:36
Speaker 9: single race except for one race here in Arizona. We
28:39
Speaker 9: really need to replicate what we did in 2024. Right now,
28:43
Speaker 9: as you posted or showed my post, the Democrats are
28:47
Speaker 9: slightly leading us in returns. We need to beat them
28:50
Speaker 9: in the early vote, just like we did in 2024.
28:53
Speaker 9: If we surpass them heavily in the early vote, We
28:57
Speaker 9: always beat them day of. We actually crush them day of.
29:00
Speaker 9: So we really need anybody who's got a ballot sitting
29:03
Speaker 9: on their countertop to turn that ballot in as soon
29:07
Speaker 9: as possible. Statistically, people who still have a ballot on
29:11
Speaker 9: their counter at this point don't vote. So we need
29:15
Speaker 9: to get all of those ballots off the countertop, turned in.
29:19
Speaker 9: If Republicans vote, we have the registration advantage. If we
29:25
Speaker 9: just get our turnout with our registration advantage, we'll absolutely
29:28
Speaker 9: win all of these statewide races.
29:30
Speaker 2: And look, everybody knows Arizona feels about as red of
29:34
Speaker 2: a state as a state can be. When you meet
29:36
Speaker 2: people in Arizona, you drive around Arizona, it's like these—
29:40
Speaker 2: doesn't feel like a blue state. Yet some of these
29:43
Speaker 2: outcomes of the elections, I really don't think it represents
29:47
Speaker 2: really the electorate.
29:48
Speaker 8: Now, look.
29:49
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people have talked about gas prices.
29:51
Speaker 1: A lot of people talked about the Iran war.
29:53
Speaker 2: But Arizona, the border, is the most important issue, I
29:56
Speaker 2: have to assume, amongst your voters. And the president has
29:59
Speaker 2: been so good on the border. Zero getaways. The border
30:02
Speaker 2: shut down. Are Arizonans seeing the impacts of Trump's border policy?
30:07
Speaker 2: And hopefully they're taking that consideration when they show up
30:09
Speaker 2: at the polls, right?
30:11
Speaker 6: Yeah, it is a top issue.
30:14
Speaker 9: But sadly, like a lot of things, when things go well,
30:17
Speaker 9: people have short-term memories. Now that the border has been
30:20
Speaker 9: secured and we don't have all of the problems that
30:22
Speaker 9: we're seeing from the border, you have some people that
30:25
Speaker 9: are forgetting about that. But yes, the border is still
30:29
Speaker 9: an important issue. And my opponent, Chris Mays, has refused
30:33
Speaker 9: to defend our border security law that passed two to one.
30:37
Speaker 9: In fact, that's a law I had to go to
30:40
Speaker 9: court and and defend and we won. But if it
30:43
Speaker 9: was up to her, that law would have been stricken
30:46
Speaker 9: and we wouldn't be able to protect our border. So yeah,
30:50
Speaker 9: it couldn't be more different between the two of us.
30:53
Speaker 9: Of course, the economy is probably the top issue right
30:57
Speaker 9: now and we need people to remember. I mean, it
31:00
Speaker 9: was out of control. Inflation was absolutely out of control
31:04
Speaker 9: under Biden and And President Trump has been able to
31:08
Speaker 9: get that under control, and we're starting to see things
31:12
Speaker 9: improve on that front.
31:13
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, and that's the thing. We've got to
31:15
Speaker 2: remember how bad things were and how much better they are.
31:18
Speaker 2: I think Arizonans will forget. I mean, as a border state,
31:21
Speaker 2: I remember. between 2020 and 2024, how bad it was,
31:25
Speaker 2: especially for the ranchers on the border.
31:27
Speaker 1: Same thing with Texas.
31:28
Speaker 2: Texas had to go and put their own razor wire
31:29
Speaker 2: on the border because Biden wouldn't secure it. And it's
31:32
Speaker 2: so important to have a good AG that supports the
31:35
Speaker 2: laws of the United States and enforces the law of Arizona.
31:38
Speaker 2: Hopefully everybody shows up, shows up early, shows up on
31:41
Speaker 2: election day and votes Republican up and down the ticket.
31:45
Speaker 1: Good luck to you, my friend. Thank you so much.
31:47
Speaker 1: Thanks for being here.
31:49
Speaker 2: Still ahead, the Islamic regime in Iran knows our midterms
31:52
Speaker 2: are 11 days away. And the president says they're trying
31:55
Speaker 2: to use our midterms against us. When the midterms are over,
31:59
Speaker 2: the president is apparently drawing up big plans to strike.
32:03
Speaker 2: Will that bring Iran to the negotiation table? Finally, I
32:07
Speaker 2: have George Papadopoulos to break all of that down. And later,
32:09
Speaker 2: it's Fired Up Friday with Chad Caden. He's fired up
32:12
Speaker 2: about the WNBA. Apparently, they know what a woman is now.
32:16
Speaker 4: But.
32:17
Speaker 2: They can't stand for the national anthem. We're breaking all
32:20
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33:05
Speaker 2: We've been talking a lot about the midterms and how
33:07
Speaker 2: they impact Americans here at home, but the midterms also
33:11
Speaker 2: have a significant impact on the Islamic regime in Iran.
33:16
Speaker 2: Behind the scenes, Iran has been keenly aware that high
33:20
Speaker 2: energy prices could hurt Trump in the midterms. Trump is
33:22
Speaker 2: aware of that as well, which is why his administration
33:26
Speaker 2: has taken its foot off the gas in that conflict
33:29
Speaker 2: to take pressure off the gas prices here in until
33:33
Speaker 2: after the midterms, but it seems a major attack is
33:36
Speaker 2: being planned for right after the midterms. The New York Times,
33:41
Speaker 2: ABC News, and according to Iran International, The Atlantic, all
33:46
Speaker 2: report that American and Israeli planners are working on strikes
33:51
Speaker 2: after November 3rd, several days aimed at missiles, drones, energy sites,
33:55
Speaker 2: and nuclear facilities.
33:57
Speaker 1: And here's what the president said Wednesday night. Are you
33:59
Speaker 1: over it? Are you over negotiating with the Iranians at
34:02
Speaker 1: this point?
34:02
Speaker 10: No, I think we're not negotiating with them.
34:05
Speaker 2: We are going to have something one way or the
34:08
Speaker 2: other that.
34:08
Speaker 1: Will happen fairly soon. Most people seem to think it's
34:12
Speaker 1: after the election.
34:13
Speaker 4: We're going to see what happens.
34:15
Speaker 2: Those reports also say Israel wanted to strike sooner, and
34:18
Speaker 2: the president said no. Israeli voters make their decision on Tuesday.
34:24
Speaker 2: I guess George Papadopoulos said this on this network Wednesday night.
34:28
Speaker 8: Look.
34:29
Speaker 5: This was a very important move by the Trump administration
34:32
Speaker 5: to actually rein in Bibi Netanyahu to prevent that attack
34:36
Speaker 5: from actually occurring, because if it did, we'd be in
34:39
Speaker 5: a much worse position than we would have been.
34:41
Speaker 2: Matt Gaethje comes on just before this one. So it
34:44
Speaker 2: was a short, hard strike, the thing that finally forces
34:48
Speaker 2: Tehran to make a deal. Of course, it's just going
34:51
Speaker 2: to be round two or round three. Who really wants
34:54
Speaker 2: it sooner, Jerusalem or Washington? And what are you paying
34:58
Speaker 2: at the pump the week.
34:59
Speaker 1: After you vote?
35:00
Speaker 2: Join me now, bestselling author of Deep State Target and
35:03
Speaker 2: former foreign policy advisor to President Trump's 2016 campaign, George Papadopoulos.
35:09
Speaker 2: Welcome back to David Pollak Prime Time. This is a
35:12
Speaker 2: very interesting sort of story coming out, and I can't
35:16
Speaker 2: Judging by the outlets that are putting this out, it
35:18
Speaker 2: makes me think that it wants Americans that are feeling
35:21
Speaker 2: relief at the gas pumps to say, oh, man, gas
35:25
Speaker 2: prices are going to go up again, because that was
35:26
Speaker 2: the narrative heading into the midterms.
35:28
Speaker 1: Gas prices, gas prices. Now the prices are coming down.
35:31
Speaker 2: And I think the reason why this story is leaking
35:32
Speaker 2: is because they want Americans to feel like this is
35:34
Speaker 2: going to hurt them again.
35:36
Speaker 1: After the midterms. I don't think they will.
35:39
Speaker 2: But how much of this plan that we're putting in place,
35:42
Speaker 2: how much of it's going to really happen versus how
35:44
Speaker 2: much of it is a threat aimed at getting Iran
35:46
Speaker 2: back to the negotiation table? Trump says he's not negotiating.
35:49
Speaker 1: What do you think?
35:50
Speaker 3: Yeah.
35:51
Speaker 1: Hi, David.
35:51
Speaker 5: Thanks for having me. Well, look, I don't think the
35:54
Speaker 5: Trump administration or Israel is serious about attacking Iran before
36:00
Speaker 5: the midterms because it would simply help the Democrats and
36:05
Speaker 5: in their election hopes against the GOP. And obviously, President
36:09
Speaker 5: Trump has endorsed Bibi Netanyahu going into his own election
36:13
Speaker 5: coming up very soon. So on the other hand, after
36:18
Speaker 5: the midterms, I think the gloves are going to come
36:20
Speaker 5: off one way or another. And the president himself suggested
36:24
Speaker 5: the same exact thing, because The president of the United
36:27
Speaker 5: States of America will not allow the Middle East to
36:31
Speaker 5: be more dangerous than when he came into office. And
36:36
Speaker 5: if he doesn't finish off Iran one way or another,
36:39
Speaker 5: whether it's through diplomatic and economic incentives that basically bring
36:45
Speaker 5: in Iran into the international community, they decide to act
36:49
Speaker 5: like a rational player in the United States and other
36:52
Speaker 5: countries can deal with Iran. at a bilateral or potentially
36:56
Speaker 5: multilateral level, or they decide not to go that route,
37:00
Speaker 5: as Iran initially did not want to, then I think
37:03
Speaker 5: inevitably U.S. and Israeli strikes will.
37:06
Speaker 6: Come back on the table.
37:07
Speaker 5: There will be the attempt to basically overthrow the regime,
37:11
Speaker 5: help the people on the ground who have been attempting
37:15
Speaker 5: to extricate themselves and their country from this theocratic regime.
37:20
Speaker 5: and implement some sort of more Western-friendly or at least
37:24
Speaker 5: non-hostile governments in Iran that's supported by the Iranian people.
37:30
Speaker 5: So Iran itself is going to have to ask the question,
37:34
Speaker 5: and it's going to be an existential question, do they
37:37
Speaker 5: prefer the easy route, which includes diplomatic and economic incentives,
37:41
Speaker 5: or the hard route, which includes a potential overthrow of
37:44
Speaker 5: the regime? Hopefully they choose the former, but the president
37:47
Speaker 5: is keeping all the options on the table.
37:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, and look, Iran has been playing games early on.
37:52
Speaker 2: I mean, they had that— I think they're going to look
37:54
Speaker 2: back on the time where they had that deal in place,
37:57
Speaker 2: the memorandum of understanding, and I think they're going to
38:00
Speaker 2: wish they stuck to it, because they've been playing with
38:03
Speaker 2: the president, playing with fuel prices, playing with the straightforward moves,
38:05
Speaker 2: trying to get to a place where President Trump is
38:09
Speaker 2: as damaged as possible going into this midterm, I guess
38:11
Speaker 2: with the hopes that a different Congress might prevent President
38:14
Speaker 2: Trump from attacking them or take a different position on this.
38:17
Speaker 2: But nothing's going to stop the president from holding Iran
38:20
Speaker 2: accountable for, you know, trying to develop a nuclear weapon.
38:23
Speaker 2: So I think, really, like you said, the gloves are
38:25
Speaker 2: going to come off after this election. Now, it is
38:28
Speaker 2: a really interesting thing that they're also reporting that Bibi
38:31
Speaker 2: wanted this strike earlier, and U.S.
38:33
Speaker 1: Said no. How much of that do you think is real?
38:36
Speaker 1: I mean, it's almost as if.
38:37
Speaker 2: They want us to think that there's division between the
38:40
Speaker 2: United States and Israel.
38:41
Speaker 1: I don't really think that's the case.
38:43
Speaker 5: Well, I don't think there's really light between Israel and
38:46
Speaker 5: the United States when it comes to the conflict in Iran,
38:49
Speaker 5: because both countries decided to intervene simultaneously against Iran, initially
38:56
Speaker 5: to take out the nuclear reactors. They obviously collaborated during
39:00
Speaker 5: the first Trump administration to take out Soleimani. And of course,
39:05
Speaker 5: then you had the 12-day conflict between Israel and Iran,
39:10
Speaker 5: which basically came to a standstill. And then the outright
39:13
Speaker 5: war that we've been in against Iran for the last
39:17
Speaker 5: eight months with Israel's help. But we have to just
39:19
Speaker 5: look at the results of what this eight-month war has
39:23
Speaker 5: actually resulted in. And that is that Iran is weaker economically,
39:28
Speaker 5: more isolated politically. and militarily absolutely devastated. The military and
39:35
Speaker 5: economic sanctions coordination that the United States has imposed on
39:42
Speaker 5: Iran has basically created a vacuum, a power vacuum in
39:47
Speaker 5: Iran at this point where the United States and other
39:50
Speaker 5: countries don't even know who to negotiate with. And that's
39:53
Speaker 5: really why I believe that Iran will come to the table,
39:57
Speaker 5: because they believe that this is ultimately an existential question
40:01
Speaker 5: for them to survive as a country, potentially a nation.
40:05
Speaker 5: And they will hopefully chart a responsible course for their
40:11
Speaker 5: future moving forward.
40:12
Speaker 1: And if not.
40:13
Speaker 5: Both Israel and the United States will not allow Iran
40:17
Speaker 5: to become a more dangerous Middle East than it was
40:20
Speaker 5: before the Trump administration came into office. And they'll do
40:23
Speaker 5: what will unfortunately for them be necessary.
40:27
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look and I think I really don't think
40:29
Speaker 2: gas prices are going to jump too much. I mean,
40:32
Speaker 2: over this course of this conflict. The president has secured
40:36
Speaker 2: alternative diesel supplies. The president has increased our own oil production.
40:40
Speaker 2: So it's really not oil coming out of the ground anymore.
40:42
Speaker 2: It's really refinery capacity. And we just saw the president
40:45
Speaker 2: today talk about using the Defense Production Act to increase
40:49
Speaker 2: our refining capacity. So I don't think Iran's going to
40:52
Speaker 2: be able to manipulate our gas prices more than it
40:54
Speaker 2: already has. So I don't expect Americans to be having
40:57
Speaker 2: to see a spike at the gas pumps or anything
40:59
Speaker 2: after the election if we go and reassert ourselves in
41:02
Speaker 2: that theater.
41:02
Speaker 1: So I'm optimistic. I think Iran is exactly like you said.
41:05
Speaker 2: I think if they want to survive, if the Islamic
41:08
Speaker 2: regime wants to survive, they're going to have to figure
41:10
Speaker 2: out a way to make a deal with the United
41:11
Speaker 2: States and Israel. And if not, there's nothing holding the
41:13
Speaker 2: president back anymore. It's a very interesting position. George Papadopoulos,
41:17
Speaker 2: always great to have you on, my friend.
41:18
Speaker 1: I'll see you again soon.
41:18
Speaker 7: Appreciate it, David.
41:20
Speaker 3: Thank you.
41:20
Speaker 1: Thank you.
41:22
Speaker 2: Well, it's Friday, which means it's time to get fired up.
41:27
Speaker 1: WNBA Finals.
41:28
Speaker 2: Players keep walking off before the anthem, and the league
41:32
Speaker 2: just told Congress it now knows what a man is, apparently.
41:35
Speaker 2: The Supreme Court is about to decide whether you can
41:38
Speaker 2: make your own moonshine.
41:40
Speaker 1: All that's coming up when Chad joins me next.
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Speaker 2: Well, it's Friday and you know what that means. It's
42:30
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42:31
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42:33
Speaker 2: And we've got sports, home brewing and a special moment
42:38
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42:40
Speaker 1: So let's jump right in.
42:42
Speaker 2: Joining me now is the man himself, Chad Caton, founder
42:47
Speaker 2: of Operation Free Nation and the sweetest, meanest man on earth. Chad,
42:53
Speaker 2: are you ready to get fired up this Friday?
42:55
Speaker 6: I'm a giver, David.
42:56
Speaker 1: Let's let her rip. All right.
42:59
Speaker 2: Let's start in the WNBA. There are two big things
43:04
Speaker 2: to get fired up about. So first up is this.
43:09
Speaker 2: The players on these teams, they keep finding reasons to
43:12
Speaker 2: leave the court right as the national anthem is about
43:15
Speaker 2: to play. And then as soon as it's done, I
43:18
Speaker 2: guess they aren't busy anymore. So they come right back
43:20
Speaker 2: out apparently for Three straight games of their matchup, the
43:24
Speaker 2: Golden State Valkyries and the Atlanta Dream have cleared the
43:28
Speaker 2: court before honoring our nation.
43:31
Speaker 1: Chad, I have a feeling I know what you're going
43:33
Speaker 1: to think about this.
43:35
Speaker 10: What, paint drying at Lowe's Home Improvement during Show Us
43:38
Speaker 10: How It Works month? You know, I don't really give
43:41
Speaker 10: a flip about the WNBA. I can't believe people actually
43:45
Speaker 10: go there and to even look up to these players
43:47
Speaker 10: as if there's some kind of role model for your tiny, tiny,
43:50
Speaker 10: tiny daughter. It doesn't make any sense to me whatsoever.
43:53
Speaker 10: And it doesn't surprise me that they don't want to
43:55
Speaker 10: listen to the national anthem.
43:57
Speaker 6: It's kind of a weird deal.
43:58
Speaker 1: I don't like the WNBA. I don't like talking about it.
44:00
Speaker 10: And the best part about it was when Enos Freedom
44:03
Speaker 10: and Royce White were trying to play.
44:05
Speaker 1: They didn't mind.
44:05
Speaker 6: They got cool.
44:06
Speaker 2: Well, let's talk about that for a minute because Enos
44:10
Speaker 2: Cantor Freedom, 11 seasons as a player in the NBA,
44:12
Speaker 2: he made headlines when he was forced out of his
44:15
Speaker 2: front row seats at a WNBA game for wearing a
44:18
Speaker 2: shirt that defined what a woman is.
44:20
Speaker 1: So yeah, you're no.
44:21
Speaker 10: Facts in the NBA, WNBA, man.
44:23
Speaker 1: We're not allowed to have.
44:24
Speaker 6: That because they need to put up all of.
44:27
Speaker 10: Their other sponsors, which I'm not sure they have any frankly, but,
44:30
Speaker 10: but you can't have Enos freedom sitting there when the
44:33
Speaker 10: camera hits the seven foot 16 foot or seven foot
44:37
Speaker 10: 16 inch fella. That is Enos cancer freedom with a
44:40
Speaker 10: big shirt that says trans women aren't men.
44:45
Speaker 1: I mean, I think we actually have a video of it. Look,
44:48
Speaker 1: check it out.
44:48
Speaker 8: Going forward, all these players and coaches and the league
44:52
Speaker 8: itself was coming out and saying, we have no problem with,
44:55
Speaker 8: you know, biological male playing in our league. I was like,
44:58
Speaker 8: you know what? Enough is enough. If you guys have
45:00
Speaker 8: no problem with it, well, here I am. I am
45:02
Speaker 8: the claim for the draft. And before I did that,
45:05
Speaker 8: I actually read that collective bargaining. So Article 13, Section
45:11
Speaker 8: 1A says, if you identify as a woman, you're allowed
45:15
Speaker 8: to play. So there's no rule against it.
45:17
Speaker 2: Yeah, so this has forced the WNBA to actually tell
45:20
Speaker 2: them that they, tell Congress actually, that they are not
45:23
Speaker 2: allowed to, you know, I guess declare for the draft
45:26
Speaker 2: because they're not women. They haven't defined what a woman is,
45:29
Speaker 2: but they are misgendering people based on appearance.
45:33
Speaker 1: I don't know, Chad, what do you think?
45:35
Speaker 10: I think there's a big old lawsuit, and if anything,
45:37
Speaker 10: it's going to be fantastic TV.
45:40
Speaker 1: No doubt whatsoever.
45:41
Speaker 10: Because, frankly, Enos Cantor Freedom has probably one of the
45:45
Speaker 10: smallest beards on the WNBA.
45:48
Speaker 8: Okay.
45:49
Speaker 1: They're so getting me canceled.
45:50
Speaker 6: This is great. I appreciate it.
45:52
Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much of this interview is going
45:54
Speaker 2: to make it off the cutting room floor.
45:55
Speaker 8: Probably not.
45:56
Speaker 2: Next up, if you like your alcohol but aren't a
46:00
Speaker 2: fan of the price tag, and I know this is
46:03
Speaker 2: an important deal for South Carolinians, You may be getting
46:05
Speaker 2: some good news soon, Chad, because the Supreme Court announced
46:08
Speaker 2: this week that they'll be reviewing the federal ban on
46:11
Speaker 2: distilling spirits at home, saying that it exceeded Congress's powers.
46:15
Speaker 2: The law that was enacted in 1868 to combat tax evasion.
46:18
Speaker 2: So chances are the court will overturn the ban, leaving
46:22
Speaker 2: the decision up to state governments.
46:24
Speaker 1: Chad, are you going to start making some hooch in
46:26
Speaker 1: the bathtub?
46:28
Speaker 10: Not saying I'm not already, frankly. I mean, I've got
46:30
Speaker 10: the woods behind me, a bad old bathtub, and I
46:34
Speaker 10: watched that Pappy fellow on the Discovery. I know how
46:36
Speaker 10: to put my match together and put together a nice
46:38
Speaker 10: little hoppy situation for everybody to enjoy around a campfire.
46:42
Speaker 10: We've never really gave a flip about that here in
46:44
Speaker 10: South Carolina.
46:45
Speaker 1: Because, well- We don't care.
46:47
Speaker 10: And I can guarantee you right now, the sheriff of
46:49
Speaker 10: O'Ree County, South Carolina, probably has a little bit of
46:52
Speaker 10: apple pie in his refrigerator. I would not be surprised whatsoever.
46:56
Speaker 1: So this is.
46:57
Speaker 10: Good news because we don't have to look over our
46:58
Speaker 10: shoulders and the big boys that have been passing out
47:01
Speaker 10: their white lightning forever don't have to hide in the
47:03
Speaker 10: woods anymore and scare hunters when they're walking through the woods.
47:07
Speaker 10: Now we all get to just be legal along with
47:10
Speaker 10: our suppressors and our short barrel rifles.
47:13
Speaker 1: God is good. Trump's better. Trump is going to make
47:17
Speaker 1: moonshine great again. He sure is. I know a lot
47:20
Speaker 1: of people are excited about that. All right. One last story.
47:22
Speaker 2: And this was really a touching moment from this week.
47:26
Speaker 2: Vice President J.D. Vance was speaking at a midterm rally
47:29
Speaker 2: in Nebraska. And after about 30 minutes, a few members
47:31
Speaker 2: of the crowd behind him started frantically waving for help
47:34
Speaker 2: from law enforcement, officers providing security.
47:37
Speaker 1: And as a woman appeared to be having.
47:39
Speaker 2: Some sort of medical emergency— Thankfully, she's okay, but watch
47:44
Speaker 2: how the vice president handled it.
47:45
Speaker 1: Look.
47:46
Speaker 5: So I need a favor from every single person in
47:49
Speaker 5: this room.
47:49
Speaker 1: I need you.
47:59
Speaker 4: All right.
47:59
Speaker 6: Looks like we got a medical issue, everybody, so let's
48:02
Speaker 6: just say a prayer.
48:03
Speaker 10: And hope everyone's okay.
48:05
Speaker 1: While they're working on her.
48:06
Speaker 10: Maybe those who are of a praying type would join me.
48:10
Speaker 1: In a prayer. always in moments like this, try to
48:16
Speaker 1: pray as the Lord taught us to pray. Our Father,
48:18
Speaker 1: who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come,
48:23
Speaker 1: thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
48:26
Speaker 2: He later fought his security to go and personally assist her.
48:32
Speaker 2: What a moment where a rally turns into a prayer, and.
48:36
Speaker 1: It really— I mean, you get goosebumps.
48:39
Speaker 2: You stop for a moment, and you really see the
48:42
Speaker 2: heart of America and the spirit of America, at least
48:44
Speaker 2: the spirit of our side. You tried that at a
48:46
Speaker 2: Democrat rally, and it probably would have went much different.
48:49
Speaker 2: What do you think about that?
48:52
Speaker 6: Well, you're absolutely right.
48:53
Speaker 10: And it's why I am such a staunch fighter for
48:56
Speaker 10: the conservative cause. We have a moral capability. I, by
49:00
Speaker 10: no means, sit here with a Bible.
49:02
Speaker 1: I'm in the street.
49:03
Speaker 10: I'm fighting back against the Marxism and the socialism that's
49:06
Speaker 10: going on. And frankly, I'm a soldier. I leave the
49:10
Speaker 10: pulpit to the ones that can speak truth from the Bible.
49:14
Speaker 10: But none doesn't make me unchristian. It doesn't make me
49:17
Speaker 10: have empathy. I was a firefighter in EMTs. EMT for years,
49:21
Speaker 10: and I was always somebody that ran to somebody that
49:24
Speaker 10: needed medical attention or any attention whatsoever in their worst day.
49:28
Speaker 10: This is the very moral capability that is necessary for
49:32
Speaker 10: us to keep this Republic exactly what it is and
49:35
Speaker 10: make it better. We have to come back to some
49:37
Speaker 10: semblance of empathy and understanding our fellow citizen, our neighbor,
49:42
Speaker 10: even though we ideologically may not agree, we need to
49:45
Speaker 10: stop with the rhetoric of violence and death.
49:48
Speaker 1: We need to come back to this. Thank you, Vice
49:50
Speaker 1: President J.D.
49:51
Speaker 8: Vance.
49:52
Speaker 10: Again, you stood on top and showed the world how
49:56
Speaker 10: the conservatives and Republicans should act and do.
50:00
Speaker 8: Yeah.
50:00
Speaker 2: And, you know, the crowd started chanting 48, 48 after that. And,
50:05
Speaker 2: you know, I really do think he he that's the
50:07
Speaker 2: first great campaign pitch for the 2028 election. I mean,
50:12
Speaker 2: here's a man who gets down, cares about people, believes
50:15
Speaker 2: in God and then walks. And I love how he
50:18
Speaker 2: just walks by those people in the crowd and they
50:19
Speaker 2: just kind of move out.
50:20
Speaker 1: Of the way. They weren't like fanning over him. It
50:22
Speaker 1: really is.
50:24
Speaker 2: We really have two versions of America in front of
50:26
Speaker 2: us right now, with the midterms coming up, with this rally,
50:29
Speaker 2: what you've seen from the vice president, and then what
50:31
Speaker 2: you see, the nonsense on the radical left and what
50:34
Speaker 2: they're advocating for. These are the two Americas that America
50:37
Speaker 2: has to decide in just 11 days and also in
50:41
Speaker 2: two years.
50:41
Speaker 1: I mean, which America do you want to live in?
50:43
Speaker 2: Do you want to live in a prayer-filled America who's God-fearing,
50:47
Speaker 2: with good men who take care of people? Or do
50:49
Speaker 2: you want to live in an America where people hate God,
50:53
Speaker 2: they worship a government, they want to weaponize children, they
50:56
Speaker 2: want to replace government with some other version of things.
51:00
Speaker 2: I mean, to me, as an American, regardless of how
51:04
Speaker 2: I feel about certain policies, the essence of America, I think,
51:08
Speaker 2: is on the ballot from this point forward. And, you know,
51:11
Speaker 2: this just really shows it, right?
51:13
Speaker 10: The essence of those Republican for us to keep it
51:15
Speaker 10: is absolutely.
51:16
Speaker 1: On the ballot.
51:17
Speaker 10: The moral fortitude that the left has a tendency not
51:22
Speaker 10: to show in any way other than through violence. I
51:24
Speaker 10: have documented very much on my Twitter when I was
51:27
Speaker 10: in Portland and there's a famous video of press all
51:32
Speaker 10: around me as an older gentleman is screaming and spitting
51:36
Speaker 10: in my face. I calmly wipe the spit off my face.
51:40
Speaker 10: I smile and wink at him. and just let him
51:42
Speaker 10: know you can keep yelling, but we're here. And that's
51:46
Speaker 10: what we need to do as the conservatives and Republicans
51:49
Speaker 10: in this country and the evangelicals and the Christians in
51:53
Speaker 10: this country, vote at 12%.
51:55
Speaker 1: I need you to do better.
51:57
Speaker 10: I need you to help me keep this country on
51:59
Speaker 10: the moral track it's supposed to be as a Judeo-Christian country.
52:03
Speaker 10: And that's where we need to be. And I hope
52:05
Speaker 10: that we get closer to that, but sometimes you gotta
52:08
Speaker 10: have the fight before you come through the dawn.
52:11
Speaker 2: That's exactly right. And look, it's great to see that fight. And,
52:14
Speaker 2: you know, great job, J.D.
52:17
Speaker 1: Vance. That was an amazing moment coming out of this. Man, Trump, J.D.
52:21
Speaker 2: Vance, wire to wire, barnstorming to take this thing home.
52:27
Speaker 2: We'll see what happens here in just 11 days. Chad Caton,
52:29
Speaker 2: fired up as always. Thank you so much for being here.
52:32
Speaker 6: You're up.
52:34
Speaker 1: That is our show for tonight.
52:37
Speaker 2: Eleven days from now, you decide who runs the House
52:41
Speaker 2: and the Senate.
52:42
Speaker 1: But this Sunday, Brazil votes. And why should you care?
52:47
Speaker 2: Well, because we're going to break down the result and
52:49
Speaker 2: its impact to the United States.
52:52
Speaker 1: And South America. It's a big deal, guys.
52:54
Speaker 2: And as always, be sure to stay in touch with
52:55
Speaker 2: us on social media. I'm David Pollak, USA Everywhere, or
52:58
Speaker 2: send us an email, davidpollakprimetime0a. com. We'll see you Monday, same time,
53:03
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