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The Bolt Report | 27 December · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: He is the vault reform It. Well, good evening and
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  Speaker 1: welcome to the Bolt Report. I'm James Macpherson coming up
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  Speaker 1: on the show tonight. The Victorian Liberals have new hope
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  Speaker 1: after John Pursuito was ousted as leader and a former
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  Speaker 1: cop is now in the top job. But is Brat
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  Speaker 1: Batten the right man to take the fight to labor.
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  Speaker 1: The change of leadership also means Moi Redeming has been
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  Speaker 1: vindicated and allowed to return back to the party room.
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  Speaker 1: What message does that send to leaders across the world
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  Speaker 1: who shun women's rights activists? Taxpayers have handed a very
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  Speaker 1: generous grant to an anti Israel activist involved in doxing
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  Speaker 1: Jewish creatives earlier this year. Honestly, how dumb are we
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  Speaker 1: as a nation? And a CNN employee reckons he knows
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  Speaker 1: why viewers are no longer tuning into the network. The
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  Speaker 1: will absolutely shock you. But first, three significant things happened
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  Speaker 1: in Victoria today, for if we count Steve Smith's return
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  Speaker 1: to form with the bat. First, justice was served with
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  Speaker 1: Moi Redeeming being returned to the Liberal party room. Second,
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  Speaker 1: Victorians received a belated Christmas present with John Pisuto being
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  Speaker 1: replaced as opposition leader, and third, Biology became fashionable again,
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  Speaker 1: with the Victorian Liberals suddenly rediscovering what a woman is.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with Moi, redeeming and to her triumphant return,
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  Speaker 1: having been banished by her colleagues back in May twenty
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  Speaker 1: twenty three as a result of what could only be
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  Speaker 1: called a crazy witch hunt. Her crime, the crime that
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  Speaker 1: so offended the party room she became persona non grata,
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  Speaker 1: was to have defended the rights of women. She dared
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  Speaker 1: to say publicly what everyone knows but is too afraid
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  Speaker 1: to say. Men don't belong in women's sport or in
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  Speaker 1: women's spaces, no matter how sincerely those men might believe
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  Speaker 1: themselves to be women, or how inclined government departments might
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  Speaker 1: be to life for them. Much has been made of
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  Speaker 1: more redeeming religious beliefs. She's a committed Christian and good honor.
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  Speaker 1: Perhaps that explains her integrity and her courage. It definitely
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  Speaker 1: explains her reaction to today's events, which I'll come to
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  Speaker 1: in a moment. But you don't have to be religious
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  Speaker 1: to understand biology, do you. It'll forever be a stain
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  Speaker 1: on the Victorian branch of the Liberal Party that they
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  Speaker 1: voted to expel a woman for insisting that women are women.
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  Speaker 1: Wokeness really does destroy the brain. On the other hand,
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  Speaker 1: more redeeming stories should inspire men and women around the
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  Speaker 1: country to stand up for truth, no matter the consequences.
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  Speaker 1: Was that Martin Luther King who said the arch of
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  Speaker 1: history is long, but it bends towards justice. So, almost
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  Speaker 1: two years after being branded a Nazi sympathizer and banished
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  Speaker 1: into the political wilderness, just as today was done, MP's
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  Speaker 1: vote twenty three to four in favor of bringing Deeming back.
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  Speaker 1: Of course, question marks remain over the victoria in the
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  Speaker 1: book party room. How is it that ten MP's who
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  Speaker 1: voted for Deeming today voted against her just a week ago?
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  Speaker 1: And how is it, after all that has transpired, that
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  Speaker 1: four MPs still voted against her today. Some people clearly
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  Speaker 1: never recover from woke There are no question marks, however,
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  Speaker 1: over more redeeming. She's come through this ordeal squeaky clean
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  Speaker 1: and with her head held high, principled, strong, courageous on
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  Speaker 1: the side of truth. And I might add gracious to
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  Speaker 1: a fault.
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  Speaker 2: I have to actually give credit to John Psudo. He
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  Speaker 2: did shake my hand and say sorry to me personally today,
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  Speaker 2: So thank you, mister Pisudo for that. That meant a lot.
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  Speaker 1: Now, asked if she took satisfaction in the fact her
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  Speaker 1: Tormento had been banished to the back bench, she replied,
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  Speaker 1: like a.
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  Speaker 2: Christian, I'm not gleeful about any of it's that's repugnant
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  Speaker 2: to me, that idea. I do think that John came
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  Speaker 2: into this position with lots of potential and goodwill, and
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what happened in the background. Like I
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  Speaker 2: said at the beginning, I think it was unavoidable. But
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  Speaker 2: he has apologized to me today and that's the end
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  Speaker 2: of it.
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  Speaker 1: Now, before we get to John pursuito, there's another thing
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  Speaker 1: worth mentioning about, more redeeming. This whole thing began because
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  Speaker 1: she dared to stand up for women's rights. Right well
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  Speaker 1: after she was reinstated to the party room, the party's
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  Speaker 1: leadership ballot was won by two men. Brad Batten was
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  Speaker 1: elected leader and Sam Groth was elected deputy. So, of
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  Speaker 1: course journalists asked, more redeeming if she was disappointed that
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  Speaker 1: a woman wasn't elected to one of the top jobs,
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  Speaker 1: and here's how she replied, it was.
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  Speaker 2: A democratic election. It is what it is. If women
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  Speaker 2: want equal treatment, that means being you know, except the
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  Speaker 2: results of democratic elections. That's just a fact. I don't
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  Speaker 2: care about agenda mix. I care about merit.
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  Speaker 1: So that's what a conviction politician looks like. If there's
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  Speaker 1: a god in heaven, may he give us some more
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  Speaker 1: of that. But journalists asked what if progressives, what if
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  Speaker 1: they attacked the Liberal Party for not having a woman
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  Speaker 1: in their leadership, pairing his Deeming's response.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be taking lectures on how the gender balance of
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  Speaker 2: our team from anybody who can't even define what a
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  Speaker 2: woman is.
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  Speaker 1: And that's how you win elections. You run to the fight,
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  Speaker 1: not away from it. John Persudo may well be a
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  Speaker 1: nice guy, but nice wasn't enough to compensate for weak
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  Speaker 1: and unprincipled. Well, Deeming's story is one of triumph Persudo's. Well,
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  Speaker 1: it's one worthy of a Greek tragedy. If only he
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  Speaker 1: hadn't been so afraid of Dan Andrews, if only he
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  Speaker 1: hadn't been so afraid of the woke mob, if only
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  Speaker 1: he hadn't appeared to be part of the woke mob himself,
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  Speaker 1: if only he'd settled the more adem defamation case. Out
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  Speaker 1: of court for one hundred thousand dollars as was offered
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  Speaker 1: and thrown in a simple heartfelt apology, he'd likely still
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  Speaker 1: be leader now he's up for millions and has lost
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  Speaker 1: his position. Will Brad do a better job than you? Well,
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  Speaker 1: we're all behind Bright now and we're focused on wending
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  Speaker 1: the next election in twenty twenty Sex and so John
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  Speaker 1: Persuito is now Yesterday's man, although some might argue Persuito
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  Speaker 1: has been yesterday's man for about two years now. The
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  Speaker 1: new leader is Brad Batton, who, if nothing else, at
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  Speaker 1: least seems to know what a woman is. And now
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  Speaker 1: that the Victorian Liberals have solved that mystery, they might
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  Speaker 1: be able to finally get on with the job of
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  Speaker 1: ousting the Victorian Labor government, who don't know what a
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  Speaker 1: woman is, or what a budget is, or what affordable
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  Speaker 1: energy is, or what reconciliation is, or what social cohesion
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  Speaker 1: is or what law and order is either. So well done,
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  Speaker 1: more redeeming. Welcome back, ladies, and Merry Christmas, Victoria. Well
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  Speaker 1: joining me now is former Victorian Liberal Party president Michael Kroger. Michael,
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  Speaker 1: thanks for joining games. Brad Baton is the new leader
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  Speaker 1: of the Victorian Liberal Party. You're happy about this decision.
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  Speaker 3: Look very happy. I think most people are in Liberal
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  Speaker 3: Party in the community. Baton is for the working middle class.
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  Speaker 3: He is an Expolician as we know, he's a community person,
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  Speaker 3: Mary family kids, goes to all the local footy games.
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  Speaker 3: Blah blah blah. He's like a Chris Min's, He's a
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  Speaker 3: Christoph Fooley. He's a He's no he's and graces, no celebrity.
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  Speaker 3: Just head down, bum up. If you want someone who's
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  Speaker 3: going to work for you crime, law and order and
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  Speaker 3: battens your man. And he's not afraid. He understands the economics,
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  Speaker 3: he's not afraid. Okay, So Baton is the right person
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  Speaker 3: at this time. Obviously very disappointing for John. But Brad
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  Speaker 3: Baton I've known for a long time. He's a very
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  Speaker 3: good person. Baton a very good person.
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  Speaker 1: You mentioned that he's a former police officer. He's also
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  Speaker 1: a former small business owner, so he's got experienced, clearly
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  Speaker 1: in areas where none of the labor MPs seem to
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  Speaker 1: have any expertise. And of course there are two obvious
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  Speaker 1: issues in Victoria, crime and businesses suffering badly. Do you
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  Speaker 1: think that he can finally get the Liberal Party to
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  Speaker 1: focus on the key issues, because it's been a couple
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  Speaker 1: of years of distraction that frankly, I wonder sometimes if
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  Speaker 1: the public are interested the Victoria and Liberal Party have
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  Speaker 1: made themselves a little bit irrelevant through all of this
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  Speaker 1: mucking around with more redeeming and the associated issues. Can
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  Speaker 1: he get the party back on t.
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  Speaker 3: Think so you've got to take the attack to the opposition.
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  Speaker 3: This is what Brad'll do. I mean, look at Dutton,
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  Speaker 3: all right. Dutton's done a number of big things since
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  Speaker 3: he become leader. He's taken on an immigration issue, He's
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  Speaker 3: stood firm with the Jewish community in Israel, nuclear all right,
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  Speaker 3: you stand firm on law and order and these big
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  Speaker 3: issues on budget repair. I mean's not afraid. You know,
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  Speaker 3: we are in a crisis now in this country. Certainly
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  Speaker 3: in Victoria there's an economic law and order crisis. Batnal
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  Speaker 3: and the other thing got to remember about Victoria in
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  Speaker 3: eighteen and twenty two when Matthew go was luder. He
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  Speaker 3: lost those two elections mainly because this fellow Daniel Andrews
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  Speaker 3: spent one hundred billion dollars of the public's money. Memory
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  Speaker 3: famously said, oh, you can have a rail line, and
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  Speaker 3: you're got to hospital that you can have it all.
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  Speaker 3: He spent one hundred billion. He's left Victoria bankrupt. Then
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  Speaker 3: he wandered off and left Jacindra Allen in charge. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: I can win an election if I spent fifty billion, mate,
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  Speaker 3: And that's what he did. He bought those elections and
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  Speaker 3: it's an absolute disgrace what he did.
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  Speaker 1: As bad as the Labor Party are in Victoria, how
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  Speaker 1: much responsibility does the Liberal Party in this state bear
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  Speaker 1: for the shocking state of things with their lack of focus,
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  Speaker 1: their constant leadership bickering. I mean, it's not all Labour's fault.
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  Speaker 1: You've got to have an effective opposition. You do for
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  Speaker 1: long suffering Victorians. I've got to say it's been a while.
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  Speaker 3: It's been a while, and I think, to be fair,
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  Speaker 3: the forty three percent primary vote we go we've got
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  Speaker 3: is a lot more to do with labors ineptitude than
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  Speaker 3: our positive plan. And so I'm hoping that Brad Baton
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  Speaker 3: will announce her the next year some big policy ideas.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, that's what the electric wants, right, That's what
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  Speaker 3: Dutton's done. This whole thing on nuclear and you've got
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  Speaker 3: to have courage, as you say, you've got to run
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  Speaker 3: towards the fire. You've got to give people a read.
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  Speaker 3: You to inspire your base, you to inspire the electorate.
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  Speaker 3: You've got to stand for something. Dun't came out early
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  Speaker 3: on Cities against the Voice Right that defined Dutton as
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  Speaker 3: a person who was on the side of the majority
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  Speaker 3: of Australians. At the end of course, ant that stage
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  Speaker 3: only forty percent were against the Voice. Then it flipped
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  Speaker 3: you got to stand for something. Why does Trump get
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  Speaker 3: elected he stands for something?
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  Speaker 1: Just on that, many of these Victorian Liberals were hoping
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  Speaker 1: that Jess Wilson would become at least the deputy. She
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  Speaker 1: was I think the only Liberal MP who voted in
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  Speaker 1: favor of the Voice. How much of a disaster would
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  Speaker 1: that have been if they'd put her in the leadership
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  Speaker 1: group When Victorians are looking for a strong Conservative party,
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  Speaker 1: did they dodge a bullet by not putting her as deputy?
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  Speaker 4: No?
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm not going to comment on that because that
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  Speaker 3: decision has been made. But I know Jess Wilson very well.
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  Speaker 3: I've known it for most of my life and I
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  Speaker 3: knew I've no father very well when he was a
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  Speaker 3: member of parliam The great family, the Wilson family. Jess
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  Speaker 3: Wilson's an outstanding a woman and she's going to make
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  Speaker 3: an incredible contribution in the State parliam the years ahead.
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  Speaker 3: You know, she's only been there a couple of years,
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  Speaker 3: so perhaps that might have been the reason that the
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  Speaker 3: members thought Brad Batton's been there fourteen years, that you know,
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  Speaker 3: he'd done the hard yards. It was time for Baton
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  Speaker 3: to get the leadership. And I'm very glad for Brad
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  Speaker 3: that he has got the leadership. I mean he's been
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  Speaker 3: there through thick and thin and kept his head high.
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  Speaker 1: As we've seen. It's one thing to get the leadership
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  Speaker 1: of the Victorian Liberal Party, it's another thing to keep
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  Speaker 1: the leadership of the Victorian a Liberal Party. Can Brad
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  Speaker 1: do that? Bearing in mind Sam Groth, his deputy, has
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  Speaker 1: got unabashed leadership ambitions, Jess Wilson obviously wants to be
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  Speaker 1: part of the leadership team. And the coalition that Baton
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  Speaker 1: has formed seems a little uneasy. I mean even today
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  Speaker 1: you had four MPs who voted against allowing more Redeeming
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  Speaker 1: back into the party room, which I want to ask
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  Speaker 1: you about how easy will it be for Brad Baton
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  Speaker 1: to keep this team united? If indeed they are united
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  Speaker 1: even now.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to have any trouble. And
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  Speaker 3: I'll see you why the Federal Parliamentary Little Party learned
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  Speaker 3: from that whole period of Tony to.
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  Speaker 1: Malcolm to Scott no more.
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  Speaker 3: And I think the State Parlatry Party been through such
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  Speaker 3: an awfully difficult period, terrible period. I don't think any
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  Speaker 3: of them want to go through any more of this.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Baton is very reliable, he's very dependable, he's
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  Speaker 3: very solid. People will fall in behind him in the
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  Speaker 3: same way they fell in behind Dutton. I mean, don't
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  Speaker 3: forget you know, dun't it runs the leadership before and
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  Speaker 3: lost as Brad had. You never know what people are
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  Speaker 3: going to be like till they get there in politics, right,
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  Speaker 3: they can go on with a great CV and end
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  Speaker 3: up being terrible, or I can go in you know,
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  Speaker 3: and you don't have been a great minister. But when
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  Speaker 3: he became leader of the Opposition, as he has, everyone's
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  Speaker 3: falling behind him. You don't hear a word of any
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  Speaker 3: leadership challenges or rumblings against Dutton. Why because he's performed
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  Speaker 3: the fight to labor, as you said, and secondly because
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  Speaker 3: he's had the courage to stand for something and people
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  Speaker 3: don't want to go back to the days where people
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  Speaker 3: are brawling. So I think the Parliamentary Liberal Party in
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  Speaker 3: Victoria's had enough. They've decided on Brad and Sam, and
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  Speaker 3: I think that'll be the team. On the other hand,
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  Speaker 3: I am reasonably sure now given what's happened today with
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  Speaker 3: us having changed, that they will dump Cinder Allen at
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  Speaker 3: some stage. You are now the elect She's not going
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  Speaker 3: to be the leader. Brad Batton will be facing the
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  Speaker 3: deputy Ben Carroll, who'll be the leader of Labor Party.
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  Speaker 3: He'll be the premier at the next election. I don't
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  Speaker 3: think Jacinta knows this, and I said Joe Biden didn't
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  Speaker 3: know it. Well said he was going to be dumped.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Biden didn't know much.
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  Speaker 3: He didn't at all. But they're not going to keep
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  Speaker 3: just Cinder Allen. She looks and sounds like Daniel Anders.
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  Speaker 3: She's bankrupted Victoria. She's the Marie Antoinette of basically Victorian politics.
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  Speaker 3: She's above it all, she's above ordinary people. She's got
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  Speaker 3: no idea the disaster she's left behind us, and she
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  Speaker 3: looks tired, ragged, they will dump her and put Carolyn,
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  Speaker 3: who's got more of the chrismns feel about him. So
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  Speaker 3: that's who Brad will be fighting. Will we're fighting Ben
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  Speaker 3: Carroll the next election.
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  Speaker 1: Well, Ben Carroll will have his hands full if he
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  Speaker 1: does get the job, because the economy is in all
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  Speaker 1: sorts of trouble. And we found out today The Herald
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  Speaker 1: Sun reported that the public service wages bill has blown
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  Speaker 1: out by two point seven billion dollars in the last
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  Speaker 1: twelve months. How on earth do you have such a
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  Speaker 1: blowout in wages?
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  Speaker 3: You know, there's got to be at some stage there's
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  Speaker 3: going to have to be some kind of accountability.
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  Speaker 1: For politicians who just.
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  Speaker 3: Spend and spend and spend, retire off into the distance
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  Speaker 3: with their super, leave these shocking debts behind and leave
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  Speaker 3: the next mob to clear it up. I mean, this
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  Speaker 3: is Andrews government. The Dead of It touris hurtling towards
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  Speaker 3: two hundred billion. He's gone with his super, She'll go
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  Speaker 3: with her super. Another disaster. But as we say, you
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  Speaker 3: cannot trust labor with the budget, You cannot trust labor
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  Speaker 3: with the economy. They cannot control their spending, and this
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  Speaker 3: Tim Pallas is leaving with his super and leaving two
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  Speaker 3: hundred billion of debt behind us.
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  Speaker 1: Just before I let you go, more redeemings being brought
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  Speaker 1: back into the party room. I'm sure you would agree
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  Speaker 1: that was the right decisions, of course, but just quickly
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  Speaker 1: explain two things to me. How is it that ten
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  Speaker 1: Victorian MPs change their mind on Deeming in a week?
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  Speaker 1: And how is it that four voted against her even today?
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  Speaker 1: We haven't got much time, but if you can explain
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  Speaker 1: that to me quickly, i'd greatly appreciate it.
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  Speaker 3: I can't.
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  Speaker 1: Well, can you give it a go? No, it's inexplicable.
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  Speaker 1: I agree with you. There is no way to understand
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  Speaker 1: it at all. But hopefully they'll unite behind Bret Hope.
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  Speaker 1: Let's hope and take it up to labor. Michael Kroger,
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  Speaker 1: appreciate your time tonight, Thanks very much. Well, there's a
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  Speaker 1: lot of talk about the importance of social cohesion at
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  Speaker 1: the moment, and rightly so. It's important, vitally important. You
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  Speaker 1: can't have a nation without social cohesion. So you have
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: to wonder why our institutions keep fracturing it, and worse,
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: why they use our money to do it. Take the
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  Speaker 1: astonishing case of author Matt Chun, who's received a forty
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  Speaker 1: thousand dollars taxpayer fund grant to write a children's book
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  Speaker 1: about the police. Chun has previously described the Australian police
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  Speaker 1: as and I quote, a mercenary force deployed against the
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  Speaker 1: marginalized and the poor. Is that the sort of person
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  Speaker 1: you'd throw money at to talk to your kids about
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  Speaker 1: law and order. Chun's previous children's book was called Pull
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  Speaker 1: It Down, which encouraged kids to rage against colonialism. The
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  Speaker 1: book's cover, you can see on the screen, was a
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  Speaker 1: drawing of the Sydney Hyde Park James Cook's statue being
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  Speaker 1: torn from its plinth. Basically, the book encouraged kids to
• 16:35
  Speaker 1: laugh at historic monuments being destroyed. But there's more. There's
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: always more. Chun is an anti Israel activist who was
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  Speaker 1: involved in dosing hundreds of Jewish creatives earlier this year.
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  Speaker 1: Now does it seem like a wise move for Creative Australia,
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  Speaker 1: the successor to the Australia Council for the Arts, to
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  Speaker 1: be inviting this person Litt alone paying him to produce
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  Speaker 1: chu Run's books? How dumb are we as a nation.
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  Speaker 1: That's a rhetorical question, of course, anti Australia propaganda paid
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  Speaker 1: for by the Australian taxpayer and directed at our youngest minds.
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  Speaker 1: Talk about a masterclass in self harm. Joining me is
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: the Daily Telegraphs Tim Blair, Tim, thanks for being with
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: me tonight. Let me start with the obvious question, why
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: are we paying people to write books? I've written three
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: and I didn't give it. I didn't get a cent
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: from the taxpayer. What's going on with you?
• 17:33
  Speaker 5: You're writing wrong sort of books, my friend. You've got
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: to aim for the apparently the youth terrorist, crazy sort
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: of you know, lefty save Wales climate change market, in
• 17:44
  Speaker 5: which case just put your hand out, or don't put
• 17:47
  Speaker 5: your hand out. Back your truck up, and don't let
• 17:50
  Speaker 5: it be loaded up with all the all the mulla.
• 17:53
  Speaker 5: We've got to we've all had for decades an insane
• 17:56
  Speaker 5: system whereby we fund people to write books. When I
• 18:00
  Speaker 5: say people leftists to write a bunch of books, we
• 18:03
  Speaker 5: give them our money, and then if we want to
• 18:05
  Speaker 5: read those books, we've got to buy them again from
• 18:08
  Speaker 5: the books bookstore. So we're paying for them twice, and
• 18:12
  Speaker 5: no one's buying them anyway. Because they are terrible books
• 18:15
  Speaker 5: as well. It's been quite the technological technological advance in
• 18:19
  Speaker 5: the last few decades that perhaps even the Australian arts
• 18:22
  Speaker 5: world might have heard about, called the internet. If you
• 18:25
  Speaker 5: wanted to buy and this again is one of your
• 18:27
  Speaker 5: rhetorical questions, if you wanted to buy a book about
• 18:32
  Speaker 5: Palestinian issues and other sort of things, why don't go
• 18:35
  Speaker 5: straight to the core of the market. Why don't we
• 18:37
  Speaker 5: find akhmed al murderer in the West Bank who's probably
• 18:40
  Speaker 5: knocked out a few dozen kids books by now, instead
• 18:42
  Speaker 5: of buying buying them from some some pretender out of
• 18:45
  Speaker 5: Sydney who's got the money from the from the Australian
• 18:48
  Speaker 5: imperialist colonialist government to write them. Easy decision in.
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: My world, Tim, Why have you saved all these great
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: tipbits for after Christmas? I could have been sorted out
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: with the presence for the kins if you'd told me
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: that before the twenty fifth How riddle me this? How
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: is it that government can be banging on about the
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: importance of social cohesion while at the same time allowing
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: our money to go to people who seem intent on
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: causing division.
• 19:16
  Speaker 5: Because that's just the way this is march through the
• 19:19
  Speaker 5: institution stuff. This has been occurring over generations, and every
• 19:23
  Speaker 5: so often it bubbles up. I mean, one of the reasons,
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: I'm certain that the arts communities have changed the various
• 19:28
  Speaker 5: names and so on. It used to be an annual
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: sport to find the dumbest, most most hatently stupid left
• 19:35
  Speaker 5: wing sort of grant that's been headed out. Now that
• 19:38
  Speaker 5: they keep changing the names, they keep changing the categorization
• 19:40
  Speaker 5: so we can't locate them. But you know, there are
• 19:43
  Speaker 5: still journalists like yourself who can dig into this and
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: expose them and point make fun of them, which they
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: really really hate because none of them have a sense
• 19:49
  Speaker 5: of humor. But then the cycle just continues arounding it,
• 19:53
  Speaker 5: and they keep sort of dodging and hiding and putting
• 19:55
  Speaker 5: up new, sort of new barriers to the awareness of
• 19:59
  Speaker 5: the grants in these books and hip. It's just going
• 20:02
  Speaker 5: to keep going, I think, until there's a real clear out.
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: The other thing they did is they removed responsibility from
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: the relevant minister. So when they issue these grants and
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: we all say what the heck, then the minister says, well,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: you know, it's independent, not my responsibility. So the poor old,
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: long suffering public who's got to foot up the bill
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: for all this rubbish, doesn't know who to point to
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: or who to hold responsible, and so no one ends
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: up being responsible, and it just keeps happening. Former Labor
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: Senator Novi Peris has written a scathing article in Today's
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Australian slamming the government over its failure to address anti Semitism.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: I'd encourage people to go find that article and read it.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: It's very good. She rightly points out that Jews are
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: indigenous to the land of Israel. She rightly points out
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: that Israel is not an apartheid state. She rightly points
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: out the pretending anti Zionism is not anti Semitism is
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: a fraud. Now, she's an Indigenous woman and a former
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Labor senator. Why does she get it when so many
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: indigenous activists not to mention Labor politicians don't.
• 21:06
  Speaker 5: Well, there's a big clue, isn't there in the word forma.
• 21:10
  Speaker 5: Once you're freed from the collective's cult, that is the
• 21:12
  Speaker 5: Labor Party decisions seem a lot more independent somehow, And
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: you can actually vote for the sensible option. And when
• 21:20
  Speaker 5: I say vote, you can you can put your hand
• 21:21
  Speaker 5: up and indicate your feelings as the former standard is
• 21:25
  Speaker 5: now doing. It's it's a strange thing with the Labor
• 21:29
  Speaker 5: Party demanding all manner of conscience issues and so on,
• 21:32
  Speaker 5: but also this lockstep structure within the caucus and so on.
• 21:36
  Speaker 5: You end up with things like Penny Wong, for example,
• 21:38
  Speaker 5: voting against gay marriage because that was a Labor Party
• 21:41
  Speaker 5: position at the time, and then when she was allowed
• 21:44
  Speaker 5: to say yay for gay voting gay marriage, anyone who
• 21:50
  Speaker 5: was opposed to her, i e. Taking her previous situation
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: she could denounce as absolute retrograde monsters. It's a funny
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: old world, isn't it.
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: It is. Let's go to some lighter news. Speaking of funny,
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: although a lot of people didn't find this funny, you
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: made some great points though in the day Telegraph today
• 22:11
  Speaker 1: about those messy backpackers who left rubbish all over Sydney's
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: Bronte Beach on Christmas Day. You weren't quite as outraged
• 22:19
  Speaker 1: as most people seemed to be.
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: Well, I think we can all agree it would be
• 22:24
  Speaker 5: great if we had all these backpackers turning up and
• 22:28
  Speaker 5: having fun and spending money in Australia, lots of money
• 22:31
  Speaker 5: investing in the local tourism economy, and it would be
• 22:34
  Speaker 5: great if they also tidy it up after themselves. Unfortunately,
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: it's not going to happen. There's just too many of them,
• 22:41
  Speaker 5: and we've got to kind of find a middle ground,
• 22:43
  Speaker 5: which is hooray for the fun and you know, just
• 22:46
  Speaker 5: tidy up after just as one of the commenters on
• 22:49
  Speaker 5: the site on that story mentioned, that sort of garbage,
• 22:53
  Speaker 5: that sort of level of litter at the end of
• 22:55
  Speaker 5: the day you tend to find at Bondai every day.
• 22:58
  Speaker 5: And for people in Bronti, the Bronte Beach area in general,
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: for them to be complaining about one big bash occurring
• 23:05
  Speaker 5: every year, it's a bit rich. Let them have their fun.
• 23:09
  Speaker 5: They bring it a ton more good than they do bad.
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: And at the end of the day, you know, it's
• 23:14
  Speaker 5: just a bit of paper and cans and maybe the
• 23:16
  Speaker 5: you'd tiny bit of broken glass, get it tied it up,
• 23:18
  Speaker 5: move on.
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you're kind of right. I mean it's like, you know,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you can have a tidy house, or you can have kids, right,
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and you can have a pristine beach on Christmas Day,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: or you can have backpackers contributing to the economy. One
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: more thing before we go let me give you two
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: phrases that you would not typically hear in the same
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: sentence test cricket and shoulder charge. But I don't know,
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: maybe those two things should go together and make the
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: game a bit more interesting. There was outrage over the
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: lack of punishment for Verrett Coley's bump on the Ossie
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: debutant Sam Constace yesterday. The Indian player was fined twenty
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: percent of his match fee about two thousand dollars. Most
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: experts reckon Coalie should have been suspense there. It is
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: the shoulder charge on the nineteen year old debutant. What
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: do you reckon twenty percent of his match fee? Was
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: that sufficient? Or should he be rubbed out for the
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: next game.
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: Let's let's try another option entirely. Let's look at making
• 24:14
  Speaker 5: the punishment fit the crime. He shoulder charged Sam Constance.
• 24:19
  Speaker 5: Let's allow an Australian cricket of our choosing to shoulder
• 24:24
  Speaker 5: charge via Coli. Coley weighs about seventy kilos. Maybe you
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: know he possibly is down at fifty kilos. He's a
• 24:30
  Speaker 5: tiny little elf of a boy. Let's light him up
• 24:33
  Speaker 5: against Scott Boland, who I think has a round about
• 24:35
  Speaker 5: ninety ninety five kilos and just earlier. Yeah, let you
• 24:40
  Speaker 5: do a decent shoulder charge in the middle of the
• 24:41
  Speaker 5: crowd and we might not have to suspend Coli from
• 24:44
  Speaker 5: the next batch. He might not be available for some reason.
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I reckon there's a whole lot of people who all
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: thought test cricket was boring until just now, Tim, and
• 24:53
  Speaker 1: they love that suggestion could really build the crowds. Tim Blair,
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure to talk to you. Thanks for
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: joining me. Well, stick around because after the break, I
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: want to talk to our panel about the message the
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: vindication of more redeeming sends to lefty leaders all across
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: the world who are struggling with the question what is
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: a woman our panel, we'll talk about that in just
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: a moment. Welcome back. Joining me at the desk is
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: libertarian commentator Kristin Abraham and the newly former New South
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: Wales One Nation leader Tanya Mahalik. Well, I want to
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: talk to both of you ladies first about the Victorian
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Liberal leadership, which of course is the story of the day,
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: but particularly I want to focus on more redeeming being
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: brought back into the party room.
• 25:38
  Speaker 6: Now.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Of course, all of This started because she dared to
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: speak at a rally advocating for women's rights. John Persuto
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: didn't want to involve himself in culture wars, Dan Andrews
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: might call him a transphobe, and so suddenly more redeeming
• 25:53
  Speaker 1: was smeared as a Nazi sympathizer. She's now been vindicated
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: by court, brought back into the party room at Kristen.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: What does this say to leaders around the world who
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: don't want to touch the culture wars. I remember Scott
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Morrison famously saying I'm not getting involved in the culture wars.
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: It's the economy, and we all know it's the economy,
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: but people care about social issues. What is this liberal
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: leadership lesson portray for leaders around the world who don't
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: want to touch these issues.
• 26:25
  Speaker 7: Well, it tells me that leaders around the world should
• 26:28
  Speaker 7: take their head out of their behinds, because I don't
• 26:31
  Speaker 7: understand how anyone can take someone to court for a
• 26:35
  Speaker 7: defamation case still think that they are going to remain
• 26:37
  Speaker 7: in power. In what world does someone go to a
• 26:41
  Speaker 7: let women speak rally and then label them as a
• 26:44
  Speaker 7: Nazi sympathizer because they got get crash by Nazis. Now,
• 26:48
  Speaker 7: in terms of a cultural wars. I would prefer that
• 26:51
  Speaker 7: we stick the government, sticks to the economy I do,
• 26:55
  Speaker 7: and stay out of ideology because I don't understand why
• 26:58
  Speaker 7: politicians continue to try tell us what we should believe.
• 27:02
  Speaker 7: Everyone's entitled to their own opinion, Especially as a libertarian,
• 27:06
  Speaker 7: I believe everyone should be treated with respect, everyone should
• 27:09
  Speaker 7: not have views pushed on them, whichever way that may be.
• 27:12
  Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, someone that can't
• 27:15
  Speaker 7: understand that taking someone to court for a defamation case
• 27:20
  Speaker 7: losing is going to keep their position just baffles me.
• 27:23
  Speaker 7: So people want honesty, people want integrity and humility, and
• 27:27
  Speaker 7: John Persudo did not show any of that.
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: Tell you there's a couple of ways to view what
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: happened with more redeeming. Do you think as a female politician,
• 27:35
  Speaker 1: do you think the lesson is she just don't bother
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: putting you ahead above the parapet because she's had two
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: years of hell? Or is the lesson no, no, stand
• 27:44
  Speaker 1: your ground, go for it, because as I said earlier,
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: the arc of justice is long, but you get there
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: in the end.
• 27:51
  Speaker 6: Well, look, can I just say, look, can I credit
• 27:55
  Speaker 6: the Liberal party inventory for finally getting it together and
• 27:58
  Speaker 6: getting rid of the albatross that was on their neck
• 28:01
  Speaker 6: and today of course selecting Brad Batson as their leader.
• 28:05
  Speaker 4: So let's credit the Liberal Party for that.
• 28:07
  Speaker 6: And I also think Peter Dutton must be delighted that
• 28:11
  Speaker 6: this has now given him the opportunity to be able
• 28:14
  Speaker 6: to campaign Victoria with a more united.
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: Liberal Party here Altoria. So let's start with that.
• 28:20
  Speaker 6: But can I say this with what has happened to
• 28:23
  Speaker 6: marow Deemi? Look, parties need to understand political parties and
• 28:27
  Speaker 6: leaders need to have to stand that. Why bother trying
• 28:33
  Speaker 6: to dictate every narrative in your party and controlling every individual.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: What is great about a party like the Liberal Party?
• 28:41
  Speaker 6: I think ultimately the old traditional Liberal Party is that
• 28:44
  Speaker 6: they always were a broad church. They always enabled people
• 28:46
  Speaker 6: who are progressive and conservative to be under the one umbrella.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: The Labor Body doesn't allow that. I know, I was
• 28:52
  Speaker 6: in the Laive Party for twenty seven years. In the end,
• 28:54
  Speaker 6: they don't have any.
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: Room for people.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: So I like the idea of a broad church. But
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: when it comes to what is a woman. Do we
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: want a broad church or do we want people with
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: primary school level biology?
• 29:05
  Speaker 6: Well, I think the idea that we would dictate to
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: somebody whether they can go.
• 29:10
  Speaker 4: To a rally or not as absurd.
• 29:12
  Speaker 6: I think what happened to Laura was absurd and it'll
• 29:14
  Speaker 6: be written in history, and history will always be in
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: her on her side when it comes to this, and
• 29:19
  Speaker 6: it looked as much as she's.
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: Gone through a lot of pain.
• 29:21
  Speaker 6: She will come out, you know, and she's already won.
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: But it'll be great for her in the future career
• 29:27
  Speaker 6: and people will see that she's a fighter and she
• 29:28
  Speaker 6: stands as something. It reminds people that not every issue
• 29:32
  Speaker 6: is worth fighting. Persuto would have been wise to have
• 29:35
  Speaker 6: stood back and taken some.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: Good guidance and advice, and it's a lesson he will.
• 29:39
  Speaker 6: Be forever the lesson for every future leader, particularly the
• 29:42
  Speaker 6: Liberal Party.
• 29:43
  Speaker 4: Don't go down that rabbit hole.
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Well fact, I would argue that was an issue that
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: was worth fighting for women's rights for her, it could
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: have for her and for the leader of the Liberal Party.
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: I would have thought. Kelly J. Keen is a women's
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: activist who's had her visa denied twice in the past year.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: Is she wants to come back to Australia the Campaign
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: for Women's Rights. Should she be allowed to come back
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: to the country.
• 30:06
  Speaker 7: I'm going to be completely honest with you, James. I
• 30:09
  Speaker 7: hadn't heard of Kelly Jane King before today. Now, whether
• 30:13
  Speaker 7: Kelly was labeled in the same light that Moira was with,
• 30:17
  Speaker 7: you know, being labeled as a Nazi sympathizer when in
• 30:20
  Speaker 7: actual fact she just wants to be able to speak
• 30:23
  Speaker 7: and you know, let women speak, rallies and all of
• 30:25
  Speaker 7: those kinds of things. Do I think that her visa
• 30:27
  Speaker 7: should be denied. No, But if she is a Candice
• 30:30
  Speaker 7: Owen's type, which I think is personally vile, then you know,
• 30:34
  Speaker 7: fair enough, I don't know enough about her to say
• 30:36
  Speaker 7: either way.
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: She was tired with the same brush as Yeah the
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: woman and got an apology by the way too from
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: John Persuito.
• 30:43
  Speaker 7: Yes, yes, well the Kelly apology as.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Well as Moira do. Yes, she got the apology way
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: before she's at the rally. She should be allowed back
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: into the country, absolutely about I disagree with her, but
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: you're allowed to disagree to.
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: Come to the disagree.
• 30:59
  Speaker 6: I think it's absurd when we stop people like her
• 31:03
  Speaker 6: just because we don't agree with her values and her positions.
• 31:05
  Speaker 6: There are many people that agree with her, and in fact,
• 31:09
  Speaker 6: most ordinary Australians do.
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: How about that. Let me move on to another issue
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: regarding women's rights, because a family run restaurant in California,
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: get this, has been forced to shut after it was
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: sued for discrimination because they dared to hold a ladies
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: night promotion. Can you believe this? So you know, for
• 31:30
  Speaker 1: several years, this restaurant held this Lady's Night once a week,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: offering drinks and wine at half price for three hours
• 31:37
  Speaker 1: to female patrons. Now they've been sued because it was
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: discriminatory against men. It's these kind of crazy lawsuits that
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: just drive people insane.
• 31:49
  Speaker 7: Absolutely it does. And California people are fleeing left and
• 31:52
  Speaker 7: right because laws in California are just absolutely ridiculous. And
• 31:56
  Speaker 7: in terms of a lady's no promotion, let's just look
• 31:59
  Speaker 7: at it actually benefits the men that goes into the
• 32:01
  Speaker 7: club as well. They want more women in the club,
• 32:03
  Speaker 7: they do.
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: That's why they do it.
• 32:06
  Speaker 7: More women come in the club, more men come in
• 32:07
  Speaker 7: the club. But the company that got sued or is
• 32:11
  Speaker 7: getting sued, they even said that they don't think it
• 32:14
  Speaker 7: was a local that was suing them. They think it
• 32:16
  Speaker 7: was someone trying to make an example out of the
• 32:18
  Speaker 7: New Californian laws that they have passed, which is just absurd.
• 32:22
  Speaker 7: And if something was like to come like something was
• 32:25
  Speaker 7: going to come to Australia like this, it would also
• 32:28
  Speaker 7: be completely absurd, and I think Australians would fight it.
• 32:31
  Speaker 1: Well, something like this did come to Australia because and
• 32:34
  Speaker 1: I think you're about to go there, Tenure the Mona
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: Arts Museum in Hobart had a lady's similar situation, was
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: only for women, and a man took them to court, right,
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: And can I.
• 32:46
  Speaker 6: Just say, look, these are activists that are looking for
• 32:49
  Speaker 6: a lawsuit, Okay, And it doesn't just happen in America.
• 32:51
  Speaker 6: It's happening here in Australia, absolutely, and it's activists who
• 32:55
  Speaker 6: are weaponizing gender discrimination. And it's really critical that Australians
• 33:01
  Speaker 6: understand that these are state laws. As much as you
• 33:03
  Speaker 6: might think that you can influence it at a federal level.
• 33:05
  Speaker 6: I mean, Trump can't even stop what's happening in California.
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: You really got to watch.
• 33:09
  Speaker 6: Who you've elected at the state level because they control
• 33:11
  Speaker 6: the antidiscrimination acts at every level here.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Okay, So you've just given me the perfect segue to
• 33:16
  Speaker 1: the last question. I want to ask you know where
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: I'm going with this, don't you. I introduced you as
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: the former One Nation New South Wales member, but you've
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: left the party. You're the party leader and the only
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: One Nation member in the New South Wales Parliament. You've
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: chosen to now be an independent. Yes, talk me through
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: the decision process there.
• 33:36
  Speaker 6: Look, in the end, I had to make a decision
• 33:39
  Speaker 6: that I didn't think I was comfortable being the public
• 33:42
  Speaker 6: face for news ovels One Nation.
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: It's been a difficult two years.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: People know I came on board just prior to the
• 33:50
  Speaker 6: last state election.
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: Mark Latham in fact invited me.
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: I'd known him previously when we worked on an inquiry
• 33:55
  Speaker 6: for religious freedom rights and he subsequently left so to
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: the One Nation MP.
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: Ultimately, in the end, Pauline is the registered officer for
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: her party.
• 34:07
  Speaker 6: She's a member of the NWSAVARS Executive as she is
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: in every other state, and it's her party.
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: She's a national president for life.
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: I respect that and I had to make a decision
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: for me personally. I didn't feel I was fully informed
• 34:19
  Speaker 6: a lot of matters.
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: And when you say I'm not informed on a lot
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: of matters, specifically what matters when you're not informed.
• 34:25
  Speaker 6: Well, look, I don't want to go too much into details,
• 34:28
  Speaker 6: but generally when you're there on the MP you do
• 34:30
  Speaker 6: need to know kind of the administration side of things.
• 34:33
  Speaker 6: You need to know how the party's writing and so
• 34:35
  Speaker 6: forth at your own state level. And in the end
• 34:38
  Speaker 6: I found that quite difficult. I don't want to disparage
• 34:40
  Speaker 6: the party. I don't want to disparage her either. I
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: wish her and Senator Malcolm Mobberts the best in the
• 34:46
  Speaker 6: coming federal election. Look, hopefully the future for Conservative politics
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: I think is to sort of coalesce around rather than personalities,
• 34:56
  Speaker 6: but around the movement in Sanaa.
• 34:57
  Speaker 4: Because my values haven't changed.
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: We've got to a break. We've only got about thirty seconds.
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: But I want to put this to you because some
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: people have said we hate this. Someone gets elected as
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: part of One Nation, then for whatever reason, they leave
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: the party, but they're still in parliament. What do you
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: say to people who are disappointed they voted one nation.
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: Now they've got an independent.
• 35:16
  Speaker 6: Look, they shouldn't be disappointed in the fact that I will.
• 35:18
  Speaker 6: My values haven't changed. I am going to be fighting
• 35:20
  Speaker 6: for parental rights, I'm going to be fighting for religious
• 35:22
  Speaker 6: freedom rights. I'm a person that believes in natural resources
• 35:26
  Speaker 6: and I can't stand the net.
• 35:27
  Speaker 4: Zero sort of madness, So my values haven't changed.
• 35:30
  Speaker 6: I'm going to be working just as hard, if not harder,
• 35:33
  Speaker 6: as an independent prove everybody that I can be a
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: very good.
• 35:36
  Speaker 4: MPa, because I know it can be. And there's a
• 35:38
  Speaker 4: lot of issues.
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: They're reviewing the Anti Discrimination Act in New South Wales.
• 35:42
  Speaker 6: They're probably going to go down the path of Victoria, unfortunately,
• 35:45
  Speaker 6: and that's where I know I can fight for the
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: rights of families and parents and so forth.
• 35:50
  Speaker 4: So I've got a lot more work to do.
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: Very good Tenure, Christian, thanks, thank you for being with
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: me on the panel. After the break, Immigration Minister Tony
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Burke has quietly given himself new powers, but do we
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: trust him to use them wisely? More after this with
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: Nick Cata, Welcome back well. Immigration Minister Tony Burke has
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: quietly used a Christmas break to issue new rules to
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: monitor dangerous immigration detainees released from detention. Tony Burke can
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: now enforce electronic monitoring and curfews, which is great, not
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: a moment too soon after the disastrous High Court end
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Zyq ruling earlier this year. But there's a flip side
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: to all of this. There's always a flip side. The
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: new powers mean Tony Burke can also decide at his
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: whim to release unlawful non citizens from detention. Joining me
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: is Menzies Research Center Senior fellow Nick cat Nick, I'm
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: glad the Minister can finally enforce curfew and ankle monitoring conditions.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: But do we trust labor not to release dangerous non
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: citizens into the community.
• 36:58
  Speaker 8: Would you believe James. It's actually thirteen months since the
• 37:02
  Speaker 8: High Court ruled on the YQ case. And remember that
• 37:07
  Speaker 8: was the end of November before Parliament rose for Christmas
• 37:12
  Speaker 8: last year, by the way, not this year. They passed
• 37:15
  Speaker 8: emergency legislation with the agreement of the Coalition to allow
• 37:20
  Speaker 8: ankle bracelets to be placed on these citizens and other
• 37:23
  Speaker 8: monitoring measures. Now it's taken Tony book thirteen months to
• 37:26
  Speaker 8: actually get round and doing it, so I'm not sure
• 37:29
  Speaker 8: they're that serious. It's not that high on their priority list.
• 37:32
  Speaker 8: And let's not forget that. In the meantime, what he
• 37:35
  Speaker 8: did before Christmas this year was to rush over to
• 37:38
  Speaker 8: Jakarta to secure the release of five criminals from a
• 37:42
  Speaker 8: barley chail and bring them back to Australia. That was
• 37:45
  Speaker 8: obviously more important to the Albanesi government than the question
• 37:49
  Speaker 8: of dealing with these criminals. One hundred and sixteen violent criminals,
• 37:54
  Speaker 8: by the way, released in that enz Yq case, many
• 37:57
  Speaker 8: of them still at large, still in the country, still
• 38:00
  Speaker 8: terrorizing the community, and there'd be more since that, not
• 38:04
  Speaker 8: to mention the course of the two thousand or so
• 38:06
  Speaker 8: guards and refugees completely on screen, So no, I don't
• 38:10
  Speaker 8: take this seriously.
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: Well, as well as worrying about detainees, also worry about
• 38:17
  Speaker 1: Australia's relationship with the US, especially with Trump coming back
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: to power. We've got Kevin Rudd, who obviously has a
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: very strained relationship. But there's also our e Safety Commissioner
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: and her ongoing war with Elon Musk. Julie Imnan Grant
• 38:32
  Speaker 1: has spent much of the year criticizing Elon and pushing
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: the curb freedom of speech, along with forcing restrictions on
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: social media companies. Earlier this year, Elon Musk criticized Julie
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: Inman Grant in several posts on x, calling her the
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: Australian Censorship Commissar after she tried to force his platform
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: to remove the video of a violent stabbing incident in
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: a Sydney church. None of this bodes particularly well for
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: our relationship with the US while Labor is in power,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: although I should point out the Safety Commissioner was a
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: coalition appointment.
• 39:08
  Speaker 8: Well that's right, James. I mean it's not exactly diplomatic,
• 39:11
  Speaker 8: is it. Kevin rud has insulted the incoming president on
• 39:16
  Speaker 8: a number of occasions, and now Julian Vangaranz has been
• 39:20
  Speaker 8: at war against his social media interests. It's not a
• 39:24
  Speaker 8: great look. In fact, I have to say that even
• 39:26
  Speaker 8: preceding the returner Donald Trump, this Labor government had departed
• 39:31
  Speaker 8: a long way from our American allies on a lot
• 39:34
  Speaker 8: of issues, not least of which course is Israel. We
• 39:38
  Speaker 8: would not back the US and Israel in the United
• 39:42
  Speaker 8: Nations in standing up for the independent state of Israel.
• 39:46
  Speaker 8: That itself is a disgrace. And now with the incoming
• 39:49
  Speaker 8: Trump administration, it's really going to show, isn't it. We
• 39:53
  Speaker 8: are not with our US ally on so many issues.
• 39:57
  Speaker 8: I'm deeply troubled about this. It's probably the furthest departure
• 40:01
  Speaker 8: from that US alliance since at least the Whitlam government
• 40:04
  Speaker 8: in goodness gracious nearly fifty years ago.
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, with all the turmoil around the globe right now,
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: it's not a good time to be separating yourself from
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: the world's superpower and our ally. But talking about Trump
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: returning to power, of course, he wants to get rid
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: of the gender madness that he's been part of the
• 40:25
  Speaker 1: US social scene for so long. Now, there's a US
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: doctor in Seattle who's come under fire because he's rushing
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: to complete all of his transsurgeries before Trump gets into
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: power in January. Now, he's part of a campaign that's
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: being run against this doctor who wants to put a
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: whole lot of kids through gender surgery before January twenty.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: Have a look.
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: Child sex change surgeries are dangerous, destructive, and irreversible. So
• 40:52
  Speaker 9: why is one doctor on a mission to conduct as
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: many of these horrific procedures as possible? Doctor Jabad Sajohn
• 40:58
  Speaker 9: has charged for nearly two million dollars and claims for
• 41:01
  Speaker 9: surgeries on one hundred twenty kids, some as young as
• 41:04
  Speaker 9: seven years old. He brags about performing the best top
• 41:07
  Speaker 9: surgery for minors and is pushing to do as many
• 41:10
  Speaker 9: of these irreversible surgeries as he possibly can, all while
• 41:13
  Speaker 9: reaching millions of viewers on social media with his own
• 41:16
  Speaker 9: damaging propaganda. This is not care, it's immoral. Soagin has
• 41:21
  Speaker 9: been sued for unlawfully manipulating reviews of his practice and
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: was forced to pay one point five million dollars in
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: restitution to twenty one thousand families whose worlds were turned
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: upside down with these life altering operations. Doctors like this
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: aren't looking out for our children. They're profiting off their backs.
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: It's time to stop the madness.
• 41:44
  Speaker 1: Nick doing this to kids is just abhorrent, and rushing
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: kids through surgery because of your left wing politics is evil.
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: The sooner Trump gets back and in charge, the better.
• 41:57
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 41:58
  Speaker 8: I mean, we talk about this dangerous ideology that leads
• 42:02
  Speaker 8: to the mutilation of children in this manner, but I
• 42:04
  Speaker 8: think what we've often forget is that there is a
• 42:06
  Speaker 8: very lucrative industry there. There is a very lucrative business
• 42:10
  Speaker 8: for a very small but influential number of surgeons and
• 42:15
  Speaker 8: psychologists and others who help treat these children. This man
• 42:19
  Speaker 8: is not just making an ideological point. He's making money
• 42:23
  Speaker 8: for each of those cases he's rushing through. Under the
• 42:26
  Speaker 8: US health system as you know, who be handsomely paid.
• 42:30
  Speaker 8: It is absolutely disgraceful. And why don't we call this
• 42:33
  Speaker 8: out more often? You know that these people have an
• 42:36
  Speaker 8: axe to grind, but they also have a financial interest
• 42:40
  Speaker 8: in this that they are conflicted on a number of levels.
• 42:43
  Speaker 8: And thank goodness, the Trump administration seems determined to put
• 42:47
  Speaker 8: a stop to it.
• 42:50
  Speaker 6: Yeah.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: I think it works out to be about sixteen thousand
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: dollars US per operation, So you're quite right, that's a
• 42:57
  Speaker 1: major interest for him in that issue, Nick, thanks for
• 43:00
  Speaker 1: being with me. Well, let's stay in the US now,
• 43:03
  Speaker 1: where lefty lunacy knows no bounds, at least until January
• 43:07
  Speaker 1: twenty when hopefully Donald Trump will bring back some sanity.
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: But for now, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are still
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: in charge and still making mischief. Both have taken to
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: social media overnight to celebrate Kwanza, a week long African
• 43:21
  Speaker 1: American holiday that's basically an alternative to Christmas for black people.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Kawanza was started in the sixties by a black nationalist
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: movement founder who ended up serving prison time after being
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: convicted for torturing to women. This founder also believed that
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: Jesus was psychotic and that black people should shun Christianity.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: Joining me is Brad versus Everyone. Podcast host Brad Palumbo, Brad,
• 43:47
  Speaker 1: why are Joe Biden and Kamala Harris determined to push
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: this holiday?
• 43:53
  Speaker 10: Well, I think it's just part of their addiction to
• 43:55
  Speaker 10: identity politics. They've got to include everyone and have all
• 43:59
  Speaker 10: the different options under the sun. Of course, the fact
• 44:02
  Speaker 10: that it's not really a religious holiday and not really
• 44:06
  Speaker 10: celebrated by any significant number of people in the United States.
• 44:10
  Speaker 10: I've known and met many Black Americans who all support
• 44:14
  Speaker 10: Christmas and celebrate Christmas. I've never actually met one that
• 44:18
  Speaker 10: celebrates Kwanza was only invented in nineteen sixty six by
• 44:22
  Speaker 10: a radical black activist, so it's not really a thing.
• 44:27
  Speaker 10: Kamala was called out for lying about celebrating it as
• 44:30
  Speaker 10: a kid that the time when she claims to have
• 44:33
  Speaker 10: celebrated it was actually before its widespread adoption, so she
• 44:38
  Speaker 10: got caught fibbing on that one. But I just think
• 44:40
  Speaker 10: it's a tiny symptom of a broader disease where Democrats
• 44:44
  Speaker 10: are so addicted to identity politics and representation and checking
• 44:48
  Speaker 10: off every possible box that they don't do their research
• 44:51
  Speaker 10: and they just kind of go along with whatever the
• 44:53
  Speaker 10: message of the day is so they can get those
• 44:55
  Speaker 10: extra virtue signaling points.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about a petition that's currently
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: being run in the US by a transgender woman, that's
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: a man who identifies as female. This person wants to
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: be moved back to a female prison. Now, from what
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: I can understand, help me if I get this incorrect.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: The prisoner was convicted of murdering their parents, was put
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: in a female prison because the person identifies as a woman,
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: was there for three years, but was caught having sex
• 45:26
  Speaker 1: with their female cellmate, and then got moved to a
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: male prison. But now the prisoner is petitioning to get
• 45:32
  Speaker 1: back into the female lockup. I can't imagine. Why did
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: I get the story right? And what on earth is
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: going on there?
• 45:40
  Speaker 10: Yes you did, and call me crazy, but I don't
• 45:43
  Speaker 10: think double murdering your parents is a very lady like.
• 45:47
  Speaker 10: Actually no, but it is insane. In many blue states
• 45:51
  Speaker 10: in this country, they've adopted self idealize that essentially allow
• 45:55
  Speaker 10: you to use whatever prison you identify as, and that
• 45:58
  Speaker 10: means putting biologically male murderers in women's prisons. That is
• 46:02
  Speaker 10: the stance of the modern Democratic Party and many LGBT
• 46:06
  Speaker 10: activist organizations in the US. And I think that strikes
• 46:09
  Speaker 10: most people as utter lunacy because while I understand everyone
• 46:15
  Speaker 10: should be safe and should have their rights respected even
• 46:18
  Speaker 10: while they're incarcerated, women's rights to safety trump the rights
• 46:23
  Speaker 10: of a trans person who double murdered their parents to
• 46:27
  Speaker 10: use the prison they identify as And you are endangering
• 46:29
  Speaker 10: women by putting violent biological males into their prisons and
• 46:34
  Speaker 10: into their cells. But you know what, that's kind of
• 46:37
  Speaker 10: where the Democratic Party is on these issues. So it's
• 46:41
  Speaker 10: right in line with their official party position. This is
• 46:44
  Speaker 10: the Democratic Party in twenty twenty four putting male murderers
• 46:48
  Speaker 10: and women's prisons, and shut up and accept it, or
• 46:51
  Speaker 10: you're a bigot. But I think most people can see
• 46:53
  Speaker 10: through that, honestly.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: And of course, prep we need to talk about things
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: like this because it is in the United States, but
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: Australian state governments have started to introduce self identity laws
• 47:06
  Speaker 1: as well, where you choose your own gender, and it's
• 47:09
  Speaker 1: important we know the logical outcomes once you start down
• 47:12
  Speaker 1: that ideological road. Speaking of idelogical let's talk about CNN.
• 47:17
  Speaker 1: The latest TV ratings in the US show that viewers
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: are abandoning the network in record numbers. Viewers are down
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: fifty two percent since the election. I wonder why that
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: would be. Could it be CNN's reputation for pushing fake stories.
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: Maybe it's their blatant bias against conservative Could it be
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: their constant pushing of racial division. Apparently no, it's none
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: of those things. CNN's staff say they haven't been going
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: hard enough on Donald Trump and that's why people are
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: tuning out. Surely they are delusional, Brad.
• 47:50
  Speaker 10: Yeah, I don't know what is it. The definition of
• 47:53
  Speaker 10: insanity is doing the same thing over and over again
• 47:56
  Speaker 10: and expecting different results. That appears to be with CNN
• 47:59
  Speaker 10: is doing. Because they went full anti Trump resistance during
• 48:04
  Speaker 10: his first presidency. There was no balance. They spent years
• 48:07
  Speaker 10: with a mixture of fake and misleading coverage about Russia
• 48:11
  Speaker 10: and supposed Russian collusion that never materialized between Trump and
• 48:16
  Speaker 10: the Russian government his campaign. But they don't seem to
• 48:20
  Speaker 10: be changing course. I mean, they have a few hosts
• 48:23
  Speaker 10: who will occasionally host a Republican or a conservative, but
• 48:26
  Speaker 10: most of the time you check out their network, it's
• 48:28
  Speaker 10: just a liberal echo chamber. It's just a bunch of
• 48:31
  Speaker 10: talking heads ranging from left to far left, agreeing with
• 48:34
  Speaker 10: each other or shouting over each other about who can
• 48:37
  Speaker 10: be more extreme, and people are tuning out yet you
• 48:40
  Speaker 10: know what they're tuning into more and more independent media
• 48:44
  Speaker 10: like Joe Rogan, whose numbers dwarf CNN MSNBC at this point,
• 48:49
  Speaker 10: and Fox News is doing very well in the ratings.
• 48:51
  Speaker 10: So there is a demand in among the American people
• 48:55
  Speaker 10: for news, for journalism, for commentary, But CNN what they're off.
• 49:00
  Speaker 10: People aren't buying it, especially young people. I don't know
• 49:03
  Speaker 10: anybody who regularly watches CNN or MSNBC in my age demographic.
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: Are you are absolutely right? Young people are watching Rogan
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: not see it in Brad. That's all I've got time
• 49:15
  Speaker 1: for this evening. Thanks for joining me, And that's the
• 49:18
  Speaker 1: end of the program tonight. Thanks for joining me this
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: week stick around. Coming up right now is the Late
• 49:22
  Speaker 1: Debate