Latest / The Vault: The Epstein Files / Mega Edition: Leon Black And His Political Donations And The Claims Of A Set up (4/28/26)
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- 0:00Speaker 1: What's up, everyone, and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.
- 0:04On this edition, we're going to talk about Leon Black
- 0:07and the new allegations that he's making, that he was
- 0:11part of a corporate coup, that his old partner at
- 0:15Apollo Global put Miss Ganieva up to making these accusations,
- 0:21and that Josh Harris was doing it all to try
- 0:25and get rid of Leon Black because of their issues
- 0:28behind the scenes. Now, there's an article out in the
- 0:31Daily Beast today by Kate Bricklett, who is discussing this. Now,
- 0:36if you've noticed over the I don't know last few
- 0:40hours from last night into this morning, I posted a
- 0:44bunch of episodes dealing with Leon Black and the situation
- 0:49we're about to talk to. As you all know, I
- 0:51love context, so I wanted to provide a little bit
- 0:55more context for you because I knew that there was
- 0:58going to be some significant news this morning breaking about
- 1:02Leon Black. So we're not gonna spend too much time
- 1:06here in the monologue. We're gonna dive right into this
- 1:09article and we're gonna see what sort of nonsense Leon
- 1:13Black is now up to. All Right, this article is
- 1:16from the Daily Beast and the author is Kate Bricklett
- 1:21headline Jeffrey Epstein pal Leon Black claims rape accuser was
- 1:26part of a corporate coup. Now, we all know that
- 1:30the allegations against Leon Black are heinous, disgusting, disturbing, and
- 1:36we all know that he was real good friends with
- 1:39Jeffrey Epstein to the tune of one hundred and fifty
- 1:42eight million dollars at least. So when these claims were
- 1:47first brought forward, I was not surprised at all. Now
- 1:51him trying to fight back and blame Harris for this
- 1:56kind of ridiculous on his part. To be honest with you,
- 2:00I don't think it's gonna go anywhere. Harris is not
- 2:02some shrinking violet that Leon Black's gonna be able to
- 2:06bully like he's always done. Harris is another very powerful
- 2:10Hedge funder owned sports teams, helped create Apollo Global, Big
- 2:14Time Player. It's gonna take a lot to, you know,
- 2:18rattle his tree. And we're gonna see what Leon Black
- 2:22is bringing to the table here. But it looks like
- 2:24another one of these attempts to try and deflect blame
- 2:28from himself and put it onto somebody else. And we've
- 2:31seen that strategy from these people for a very, very
- 2:35long time, especially in the Epstein case. As billionaire Leon
- 2:41Black fights a former model's rape lawsuit in a Manhattan court,
- 2:44he's roping in other high profile men and claiming someone
- 2:48secretly bankrolleder case in order to stage a coup at
- 2:52his former firm, Apollo Global Management. And make no mistake
- 2:56about it, folks, he is looking to weasle his way
- 3:00back into Apollo. He cannot abide by the fact that
- 3:04the power was taken away from him, the reins were
- 3:07taken away from him. He cannot. He can't live like this, right.
- 3:11He has to be in control. So he's come up
- 3:14with this idea. If he can, you know, you know,
- 3:17make the picture look like he was being blackmailed and
- 3:20it was a corporate coup, then the board members will
- 3:23have to accept him back. Meanwhile, has he forgotten his
- 3:27relationship with Jeffrey Epstein? This is a separate issue here.
- 3:32If he thinks we're gonna forget about his cozy relationship
- 3:34with Epstein and the one hundred and fifty eight million,
- 3:37dude's crazy. Furthermore, I don't believe a word he has
- 3:41to say about the situation here with miss Ganieva, I
- 3:45believe what he has to say is true, to be
- 3:47honest with you. Last June, Guselle Ganieva filed a defamation
- 3:53suit against Black, the seventy year old friend and client
- 3:56of wealthy sex offender pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. I mean he
- 4:00sexually abused her for years and coerced her into signing
- 4:03a non disclosure agreement to keep her silent about the assaults.
- 4:07Typical of these people. Oh you know, I'll give you
- 4:10a bazillion trillion dollars and I'll assault you, but just
- 4:13can't say anything about it. Cool, And that's the way
- 4:16they do it, right. They have all of these non
- 4:19disclosure agreements, and they use their money and power to
- 4:22make sure that people never say a word about their abuse.
- 4:26And then if somebody does say something about their abuse, oh,
- 4:29the counter lawsuits begin. We had a non disclosure agreement.
- 4:33Nothing about the fact that you're a sick bastard who
- 4:36abused people. Only about the fact that your stupid agreement
- 4:39wasn't fulfilled. Black, who denies any wrongdoing and says they
- 4:45had consensual affair, is attempting to subpoena Ganieva's phone records
- 4:49and those of New York Public Relations executive Steven Rubinstein,
- 4:53who the embattled mogul claims was enlisted by Apollo co
- 4:57founder Josh Harris the plant negative stories about him in
- 5:01the press. So if you go back to the beginning,
- 5:05when we first started talking about Leon Black, I told
- 5:08you guys that my sources had told me that there
- 5:11was a battle royale going on in the boardroom. I
- 5:14have an episode dealing with that, and I'm going to
- 5:16post it from a year ago, two years ago at
- 5:19this point, but some of my former colleagues from when
- 5:22I worked at Canter Fitzgerald had told me about the
- 5:25situation and the buzz that was going on about the
- 5:28battle that was happening between Harris and Black, even before
- 5:32the Epstein allegations came to light. So this has been
- 5:37a brewing problem behind the scenes, and it's starting to
- 5:40come to a head now. In court filings this week,
- 5:45Black unveiled shocking accusations against Harris, describing him as an
- 5:49ARC rival who backed Ganieva's litigation behind the scenes after
- 5:54losing a multi billion dollar succession fight to replace Black
- 5:57as Apollo CEO in twenty two one. Well, that whole
- 6:01entire deal was tilted against Harris from Jump Street. You
- 6:07had Rowan and Leon Black who were talking behind the
- 6:13scenes about making sure Rowan got that position from the beginning,
- 6:17and Josh Harris was never going to be considered for
- 6:20that position because Leon Black knows him and Harris have issues.
- 6:24He knows that Harris is not going to bend to
- 6:26his will, and Rowan, on the other hand, well, Rowan will.
- 6:31So this has been something that has been in the
- 6:33making for quite some time. Now. Did Harris do this?
- 6:37I don't know. I wasn't there, but I would think
- 6:41that this is just a deflection from Leon Black because
- 6:44he knows how serious these claims are and he knows
- 6:47the jeopardy he's in not only for that, but his
- 6:49relationship with Jeffrey Epstein as well. The pleading accuses Harris
- 6:55of enlisting Rubinstein to help shape his own media profile
- 6:59and seed harmful stories about Black. It also alleges Harris
- 7:03attempted to oust Black in twenty twenty and twenty twenty
- 7:06one by spotlighting the financial arrangements with Epstein, whose sexual
- 7:11abuse of girls had been widely reported on four years. Well,
- 7:15you blame Harris, I mean imagine you helped found this company,
- 7:20and then Leon Black thinks it's a good idea to
- 7:23go and hang out with Epstein. Give him one hundred
- 7:25and fifty eight million dollars for I'm using air quotes
- 7:28here advice, hang out with Epstein, fly to Epstein's house, and,
- 7:32according to Miss Gannieva, well a lot worse. You blame
- 7:36Harris for being pissed off. Now, don't get it twisted.
- 7:39I don't think Harris is a good guy either. Another
- 7:41one of these billionaires, destroy you at all cost types
- 7:44of hedge fund m efforts. But in this case he's
- 7:47certainly the lesser of two evils. Black seeks to show
- 7:52communication between Miss Ganieva's camp and mister Rubinstein's camp, between
- 7:57his accuser and the public relations teams that work for
- 8:00his arch rival, further demonstrating that Miss Ganiheva's claims are
- 8:04nothing but fabrications stitched together from whole cloth. His lawyer,
- 8:09Dania Perry said in the pleading, so they've been saying
- 8:12that from the beginning that Miss Ganiheva and her accusations
- 8:15here are bunk, that they are not true, and that
- 8:19it was all a push to get some money. Now,
- 8:23I don't buy that for a minute. To be honest
- 8:26with you, people don't go after people like Leon Black
- 8:29unless they have the goods, unless they have some evidence,
- 8:33right because if not, you're looking to get destroyed. Because
- 8:37that's exactly the kind of man Leon Black is. He's
- 8:41made a career out of destroying people and companies. The
- 8:48private equity titan resigned from Apollo last March, two months
- 8:51after an internal review found that he had paid Epstein
- 8:54one hundred and fifty eight million dollars from twenty twelve
- 8:57to twenty seventeen for tax in a state, planning and
- 9:01other financial advice. It just beggars the mind, right, how
- 9:05are you going to pay one hundred and fifty eight
- 9:07million dollars for financial advice? If you have one hundred
- 9:10and fifty eight million dollars, you're the man who created Apollo.
- 9:14You really need to go to an outside source for
- 9:17financial advice. What were you really giving that money to
- 9:20Epstein for, mister Black. Black also stepped down as chairman
- 9:29of the Museum of Modern Art in wake of protests
- 9:32over his ties to the late sex trafficker Blake's file.
- 9:36Black's filing states that Harris enraged that Apollo passed him over,
- 9:40then forged ahead with a malicious campaign to take mister
- 9:43Black down. And this is going to be the gist
- 9:46of it, right, It's all Josh Harris's fault. I want
- 9:50you to pay attention to Harris. He's coming after me.
- 9:53Don't look at what I'm doing though, Don't look at
- 9:55my relationship with Epstein. Don't look at the fact that
- 9:58Miss Ganieva is leveling some serious charges against me. It's
- 10:02all Harris's fault. Mister Harris convened a team of media experts,
- 10:12including prominently mister Rubinstein, not only to manage his own reputation,
- 10:17but to also impune and indeed intempt to destroy mister Black,
- 10:21Perry said in the court filing. Both Harris and Rubinstein
- 10:24have denied Black's accusations, with Harris's spokesperson calling them desperate
- 10:29and absurd. The claims in mister Black's legal memorandum are baseless, untrue,
- 10:35and unsupportable. Jonathan Rosen, a spokesman for Harris, told The
- 10:39Daily Beast, mister Harris does not know Miss Ganieva, has
- 10:43never met or spoken with her or anyone representing her,
- 10:47has no financial or any other dealings with her or
- 10:50her representatives, not no involvement of any kind in the filing,
- 10:54in the filing of any claims by her. Simply put,
- 10:58mister Harris has nothing whatsoever to do with a deeply
- 11:00troubling situation mister Black finds himself in, and any statement
- 11:05or implication otherwise is unhinged at best. So Harris right
- 11:09here is flatly denying it, saying, Look, your situation is
- 11:13your own. Don't try and drag me into the muck
- 11:15with you. You're the one who's being accused of serious
- 11:18sexual assault charges. You're the one who is paling around
- 11:21with Jeffrey Epstein, not me. Don't bring me into this.
- 11:25And of course what Leon Black is attempting to do
- 11:28is exactly that. Let's move this spotlight a little bit
- 11:31over to the left here on the Harris Boys. Evan Farber,
- 11:37an attorney for Rubinstein, told us mister Rubinstein and his
- 11:40firm have absolutely no relationship with miss Ganieva past present,
- 11:44formal or informal. They have never met or communicated with
- 11:48her or any of her representatives. These and the rest
- 11:51of the claims filed by mister Black's attorneys offer a
- 11:54concocted ever evolving conspiracy theory packed with false information and
- 12:00are not based in reality. So let's not forget and
- 12:03you know, lose the plot here. The plot is Miss
- 12:07Ganieva has leveled serious sexual charges against Black, and now
- 12:11Black in return, is attempting to destroy Miss Ganieva like
- 12:15they always do, and by doing that, what he's doing
- 12:18is bringing Josh Harrison to it as well, So he's
- 12:22looking to get rid of two of his rivals in
- 12:24one fell swoop here. Genie Christiansen, a lawyer for Ganieva
- 12:32and partner at Whigdor LLP, also denied Black's accusations. Rather
- 12:37than responding to our clients serious allegations of sexual assault
- 12:40and rape as alleged in her complaint, Leon Black is
- 12:43deflecting from his own conduct by infusing his personal strife
- 12:47with former partners at Apollo into her case, she told
- 12:51The Daily Beast, and that's one hundred percent where I'm
- 12:53at as well. Look, these guys are the masters of manipulation.
- 12:57They're the masters of making moves behind the scenes, and
- 13:00Leon Black is certainly not an apprentice. This guy has
- 13:04been destroying careers and people since Junior Soprano is wearing
- 13:08short pants, folks. While Black concedes that he paid Ganieva
- 13:15one hundred thousand dollars a month from October twenty fifteen
- 13:18through March of last year, and forgave one million dollars
- 13:21in loans to her as part of their NDA, he
- 13:24argues she lacks any apparent independent means of supporting herself.
- 13:28So what what does that have to do with anything?
- 13:32You're the one who gave her all of this money, right,
- 13:35Why did you give her all of this money? Oh,
- 13:37it was a consensual affair, dude, Your wife was sick,
- 13:40bro all right, So throughout the whole time your wife
- 13:42was ill, you're cheating on her, and then you have
- 13:45the audacity to make the person you cheated on her
- 13:48with sign an NDA after you allegedly sexually assaulted her. Yeah,
- 13:52you're a hell of a guy. Pal. It is not
- 13:56hard to infer that she is being bankrolled by someone
- 13:59with deep pockets Perry Black's lawyer alleges and Tuesday's filing. Meanwhile,
- 14:04her false claims are seated and amplified by mister Rubinstein,
- 14:08the same PR guru who already has done mister Harris
- 14:11work and spreading rumors about mister Black's alleged sexual misconduct.
- 14:15What do you mean spreading rumors? These are court filings
- 14:18that we're looking at. Nobody spread these rumors. There's nobody
- 14:22out there on the pitch trying to get the rumor
- 14:25mill going on. Leon Black. You're doing it all for yourself,
- 14:28all right. You don't need any help. Everything's swirling and
- 14:32falling down on you in a radioactive fashion because of
- 14:36your own decisions. All of these people who are supposedly
- 14:39so much smarter than the rest of us, sure seem
- 14:42like a bunch of dumbasses, don't they. The filing doesn't
- 14:47refer to any specific evidence or exhibits of the alleged
- 14:50smear campaign, but instead points to a circumstantial timeline as
- 14:54twenty twenty turned into twenty twenty one, with an independent
- 14:57investigation into mister Black's relationship with mister Epstein underway, mister Rubinstein,
- 15:03despite being on retainer with Apollo, works specifically on mister
- 15:07Harris's behalf. Perry alleged this work included being in communication
- 15:12with mister Harris on talking points and media statements relating to,
- 15:15among other things, mister Black and mister Epstein. Well, none
- 15:20of this would have happened. You wouldn't have to worry
- 15:22about that if your client, mister Black, wasn't hanging out
- 15:26and enabling Jeffrey Epstein. Pretty simple. Mister Black is entitled
- 15:32to probe the timing and prove that it is no coincidence.
- 15:36Just as mister Rubinstein prepared and fed allegations to media
- 15:40to further mister Harris's ambitions, so too were the allegations
- 15:45relating to miss Gannieva. His attorneys stated, I mean, come on,
- 15:49this is really going to be your defense. They're not
- 15:53gonna bring anything stronger to the table. Here's what they
- 15:57think is what they're gonna do. They think they're gonna
- 15:58steamroll over missus Gunnanieva because she's not some high profile person,
- 16:03and they think that if they drag this out, they'll
- 16:05litigate it long enough she won't be able to afford it.
- 16:08So I hope some lawyer takes it pro bono and
- 16:10really sticks it to leon Black. Black's team underscored that
- 16:16Rubinstein previously worked with The New York Post, where Ganieva
- 16:19gave an exclusive interview months before her lawsuit was filed,
- 16:23and it beggars belief to suggest that Gazelle. Ganieva herself,
- 16:27without professional public relationship help, convinced Ronan Farrow and other
- 16:31prominent reporters to sign on as the first three followers
- 16:35of her new Twitter account. Black's legal team continued as
- 16:38if Twitter is a real place, I can't stand when
- 16:41people bring up Twitter like it's a real place. Like
- 16:43twenty percent of adults use Twitter. That's it. It's for
- 16:47the loudest voices amongst us. It's for the water carrying tribalists.
- 16:52That's what Twitter is. It's not a representation of the
- 16:55rest of the country. Come on. Nevada State Van Kanieva
- 16:58first came forward with acting with accusations of abuse in
- 17:02a series of tweets in March twenty twenty. One weeks later,
- 17:06Black denied her claims and said I have been extorted
- 17:08by miss Ganieva for many years, and I made substantial
- 17:12monetary payments to her based on her threats to go
- 17:15public concerning our relationship in an attempt to spare my
- 17:18family from public embarrassment. Here's an idea. Don't engage in
- 17:22the behavior in the first place, and you don't have
- 17:24to worry about sparing your family from embarrassment. See how
- 17:27that works, and you'll be a little bit richer as well.
- 17:30We all know that's your favorite thing, right Leon Black,
- 17:32being a little bit richer. So if you don't get
- 17:34involved in this sort of shit in the first place,
- 17:36you don't have to worry about it. Thanks for coming
- 17:39to my ted talk. Ganieva then filed her defamation suit
- 17:44against Black, which said she was a single mother from
- 17:46Russia when she met him in two thousand and eight,
- 17:49and she believed he would help her career move beyond modeling. Instead,
- 17:53she says Black trapped in a cycle of intimidation, abuse
- 17:57and humiliation. Sure sounds like them o Jeff Epstein used,
- 18:00isn't it all of a sudden, Leon Black is using
- 18:04the same strategy, according to miss Ganievo over here. So
- 18:09she later updated her lawsuit to add accusations that highlighted
- 18:12an especially close relationship between Black and Epstein. In an
- 18:17amended complaint, Ganieva claimed Black fluor to Florida in two
- 18:21thousand and eight and encouraged her to have sex with
- 18:24his best friend, Epstein, who was on work release from jail,
- 18:27but she refused. While visiting Epstein's Palm Beach lair Ganieva
- 18:31said she met his former assistant and alleged co conspirator,
- 18:35Sarah Kellen. According to Ganieva, Kellen said that Black and
- 18:39Epstein were sex addicts and warned they are very powerful
- 18:42and if you don't do what they want you to do,
- 18:44there will be consequences that I do not want for you.
- 18:47Sounds about right. Sarah Kellen getting in the mix, trying
- 18:50to smooth things over, get these girls in it for
- 18:53Epstein and his buddies to abuse, certainly fits with the pattern.
- 18:58Ganieva also lamb Glen Maxwell, Epstein's recently convicted accomplice, approached
- 19:04her in twenty thirteen and offered to help her get
- 19:07a passport. We know that was something they were doing too.
- 19:10They had the scam marriages going on with Dyke and Khan,
- 19:14and they were getting a citizenship for people via that scam.
- 19:20So these guys, Epstein and his friends, they had their
- 19:23fingers in many pies, folks. Since Ganieva came forward, Black
- 19:28filed a short lived counterclaim alleging he was the victim
- 19:31of an extortion scheme. He dropped that state court action
- 19:34in September. In October, Black sued Ganieva and whigdor LLP,
- 19:40the law firm representing her, for racketeering and defamation in
- 19:43federal court. Aside from Ganieva and her lawyers, Black named
- 19:47three other public defendants, John Doe's one and two, and
- 19:50he described as public relations and social media professionals, and
- 19:55John Doe three, a funder who was supposedly covering the
- 19:58cost of the litigation and alleged pr campaigns against him.
- 20:02Now I said at the time that Josh Harris was
- 20:06a likely suspect for this sort of thing, and if
- 20:10anyone was going to be fingered for it, it would be Harris,
- 20:14considering the animosity that had been built between him and
- 20:19Black at this point. The defendants here created an enterprise
- 20:27to extort and cancel one of the world's most prominent
- 20:30business leaders. Black's racketeering suit claims, and again it's galling right.
- 20:34Black has a racketeering suit against Harris and the Ganieva
- 20:40but we don't have a racketeering suit against Maxwell go figure.
- 20:44In response, whigdor LLP asked the court to sanction Black
- 20:47and this legal team for allegedly filing the suit for
- 20:50improper purposes, namely retaliating against the firm for representing Ganieva
- 20:55and attempting to interfere with their ability to represent her.
- 20:59It's no surprise that a billionaire faced with allegations of
- 21:02sexual assault would want to use his fortune to change
- 21:05the subject by retaliating against his accuser and her representatives
- 21:09in a very public manner, Rivkin Radler LLP, lawyers for Wigdor,
- 21:14stated last week and a memorandum seeking sanctions. However, zealous
- 21:19representation does not equate to or excuse the filing of frivolous,
- 21:23harassing or retaliatory litigation. So they're saying it's all bs,
- 21:28and that Black's team filed it as a intimidation method
- 21:33to tell these people, look, if you try anything, we
- 21:36will crush you. I'm Leon Black, and I'm coming for
- 21:39everything you own if you attempt to even bring these
- 21:42charges against me. And that's what they've done forever, and
- 21:45they've been able to intimidate people for a long time
- 21:47doing that. Wigdor's lawyers added that no amount of investigation
- 21:53could possibly have led Black or his counsel to a
- 21:56good faith belief that the firm was involved with a funder.
- 21:59They said Black's legal team knew Wigdor was representing Ganieva
- 22:03on a contingency agreement in her state court lawsuit. No
- 22:07one has paid or reimbursed Wigdor for anything in connection
- 22:10with its representation of miss Ganieva, they said, So it
- 22:13looks like it's pro bono here, which is a great thing,
- 22:16and I'm glad Wigdor is doing that, because when you're
- 22:19dealing with high profile people like Black, it's very hard
- 22:23to litigate against them in court if you don't have
- 22:25a huge bankroll. Lawyers for Wigdor also denied the firm
- 22:31or Ganieva had enlisted a public relations specialist a publicizer
- 22:36accusations it is frivolous for Black to allege, as he
- 22:40does with the improper of his counsel, that miss Ghanieva
- 22:44needed the assistance of a flak to use the hashtags
- 22:47me too or Leon Black, they wrote, meaning she didn't
- 22:51need to hire somebody to use those hashtags and you know,
- 22:56talk about these people on her own on social media. Black,
- 23:00with his billions of dollars, may believe that he can
- 23:02levy baseless and legally defective RICO and defamation claims against
- 23:06opposing council with impunity in an attempt to interfere with
- 23:10Whigdoor's ability to represent Miss Ganieva and gain an advantage
- 23:14in her first filed state court action. Wigdor's lawyers added, however,
- 23:19his lawyers should have refused to go along with that
- 23:22wrongful approach. In a letter to the court last week,
- 23:25Black's lawyer, Susan Estrich indicated he will file an amended
- 23:29racketeering complaint by January twenty eighth. Estrich added that Wigdor's
- 23:34motion for sanctions should be denied as moot once the
- 23:37updated lawsuit is filed. So kill them with filings, kill
- 23:41them with court appeals, kill them with technicalities and loopholes.
- 23:46That's what he's trying to do here. He's trying to
- 23:50use his great power, his great wealth, to make this
- 23:53too much of a long and drawn out war and
- 23:57financially not feasible for anybody to engage. Earlier this month,
- 24:03Ganieva's lawyers filed a motion to quash black subpoena to
- 24:07AT and T for her phone records, calling it a
- 24:09clear and unnecessary invasion of privacy and a transparent attempt
- 24:13to intimidate and harass Miss Ganieva. Black is simply fishing
- 24:18for evidence for use in the federal lawsuit despite having
- 24:22received sworn statements from Miss Ghanieva that she has not
- 24:25spoken to any public relations firm or agent, wrote Whigdoor
- 24:28attorney Lindsay M. Goldbrum. So the back and forth is
- 24:33on right. You know that Black wants everything he could
- 24:36possibly get, and Miss Gannieva's lawyers they're not having it.
- 24:39They're pushing back, saying this is unfounded, this is bs
- 24:43and it's going to be interesting to see what the
- 24:45court says. Black believes wrongly that plaintiff conspired with other
- 24:52people to file this action against Black for the sole
- 24:55purpose of embarrassing him and ruining his reputation. Goldramaded, he
- 24:59is not entire to continue on a quest that has
- 25:01yielded no information and that unquestionably will continue to do so.
- 25:06And furthermore, his reputation was already ruined by his association
- 25:09with Epstein. That's a ridiculous argument. Rubinstein's lawyer, Farber, also
- 25:15moved to defeat a subpoena for his phone records, calling
- 25:18it brazenly over broad and improperly invasive. Black only seeks,
- 25:23not only seeks Rubinstein's phone records and texts from October
- 25:26twenty twenty to September twenty twenty one, but records for
- 25:29each of his agents, representatives, and employees. Farber said, So
- 25:34that's a big ask that Leon Black is making here,
- 25:37and I don't think it's going to go over so well.
- 25:39We'll have to see though. All Right, folks, that's gonna
- 25:42do it for this episode, and I wanted to get
- 25:44it added to the catalog considering we had those other
- 25:47Leon Black episodes that I uploaded last night. Want to
- 25:51make sure we have, you know, as much context as possible.
- 25:54I have a few other episodes dealing with Leon Black,
- 25:56such as the Battle Royale in the Boardroom episode. I'm
- 26:00gonna upload that one as well. All Right, folks, if
- 26:04you'd like to contact me, you can do that at
- 26:06Bobby Kapuci at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c ap
- 26:11you Cci at ProtonMail dot com. You can also find
- 26:15me on Twitter at Bobby underscore cap you Cci. The
- 26:21link that we discussed can be found in the description box.
- 26:25All right, everybody, this article we have this morning is
- 26:28really going to play and well to what we've been
- 26:31talking about and how I've been trying to hammer home
- 26:35the fact that there is a lot of dirty deceitful,
- 26:40gross money floating around in the American political system. Now,
- 26:45I'm sure that's the case for elsewhere. I don't live there,
- 26:47I can't speak for elsewhere. What I will say is this,
- 26:51Guys like Leon Black fund both sides of the aisle,
- 26:56fund both parties, and in return, well, when those people
- 27:01are in their offices, they're expected to make sure that
- 27:05the laws that they write are favorable to people like
- 27:09Leon Black, that there's some loopholes for them to exploit,
- 27:13that there are some back doors for them to exit
- 27:17out of if they ever get in trouble. What do
- 27:19you think they're just donating this money because they're that's
- 27:23the guy that they want to win. No, when they
- 27:26give this money to these politicians, it's because they believe
- 27:29that these politicians can do something for them in return.
- 27:33Now it might be might not be an outright bribe, right,
- 27:36but it might be a favorable ruling, or packing a
- 27:39bit of pork into a bill, or you know, there
- 27:44are plenty of ways to skin the cat, as they say,
- 27:47and people on both sides of the aisle have surely
- 27:52mastered the art. We're talking about serious money that gets
- 27:57poured into people who then have the audacity to get
- 28:03up there on their ivory tower and yell down at
- 28:06the rest of us. It's absurd, frankly, and taking it
- 28:12a step further, this just plays right into my point
- 28:14that I was making the other night. How I don't
- 28:17believe that any outside money should ever be accepted or
- 28:21should be used by any candidate running for Senate or Congress.
- 28:27That money should all come from within the state, so
- 28:30that that person who gets elected, I know this is
- 28:33going to be a big shocker, is only accountable to
- 28:36his or her constituents and is not accountable to these
- 28:41bagmen like Leon Black. And I'll tell you what, if
- 28:46these politicians that are planning on running at some point,
- 28:50or if any of you are planning on running at
- 28:51some point, I think that that would be a fantastic
- 28:54platform to run on. I think people in your state
- 28:57would appreciate that shit. And I think think that people
- 29:00in your state would be hyped up and fired up
- 29:03to vote for a candidate who promises to only take
- 29:07in state money, no matter how little it is. Because
- 29:12when you have people like Leon Black, and you have
- 29:15people like Len Dubin, and you have insert other American
- 29:19oligarch here, manipulating our financial system by buying their way
- 29:25into local politics via senators and congressmen and attorney generals.
- 29:32It's not good. That's not the way it should be.
- 29:36And then these people that we send to DC that
- 29:39are supposedly representing us are not doing that. They're representing
- 29:45they're bag men. They're representing the people on K Street.
- 29:48They're representing people like Leon Black. And you know what
- 29:55the truth is, these people don't care. It's all about
- 30:00out raising obscene amounts of money in politics these days.
- 30:05And you really think that we're supposed to believe all
- 30:07of that money that you raise from people like Leon
- 30:10Black is going to your campaigns anyway, how much of
- 30:14that finds its way into the pocket of these candidates
- 30:20or these congressmen or congress women or these bureaucrats, I'm
- 30:24sure a whole hell of a lot of it. And
- 30:26that's just the unfortunate truth of the matter, folks. When
- 30:32you have this kind of money coming in from people
- 30:34like Leon Black, pouring into states where there's only three
- 30:38or four million people living in the state, it's an
- 30:41absurd way for somebody like him to manipulate the politics,
- 30:46and it should not be allowed I don't think that
- 30:49one single dollar should ever come from somebody like Leon
- 30:53Black and go to somebody who is looking to become
- 30:55a senator or is looking to hold their Senate seat, unless,
- 30:59of course it's from the state that Leon Black lives in.
- 31:02Then hey, look whatever you do in your state, if
- 31:04you're a resident of that state, fine, I'm talking about
- 31:08outside money, you know, money that pours in from New
- 31:11York to say Nevada. Unacceptable. It is unacceptable, and I
- 31:17don't feel like the states, all of the states get
- 31:20the proper representation when that occurs. And I think it's
- 31:24a big problem right along with term limits. So today
- 31:30Forbes or should I say yesterday excuse me, Forbes had
- 31:33an article out about some of the people that received
- 31:37money from Leon Black. We're going to dive into that
- 31:41article and we're going to see which ones of these
- 31:44grifting ass thieves that we have sent to Washington, d C.
- 31:49And elsewhere have received money from Leon Black, and then
- 31:53the question will become are they going to return it?
- 31:58This article is from Forbes headline leaders in both parties
- 32:02received money from Leon Black, billionaire caught up in Epstein's scandal.
- 32:07This article was authored by Lazette Voitko. Leon Black, the
- 32:13billionaire chairman, chief executive and co founder of Apollo Global Management,
- 32:18donated at least one hundred thousand dollars to mostly Republicans
- 32:23senatorial campaigns since twenty and nineteen. Isn't that nice? So?
- 32:29Why is Leon Black so worried about senatorial campaigns? Why
- 32:34is he so worried about people who are running for Senate?
- 32:39Just because that's far less than he gave to the
- 32:44political causes ahead of the two thousand and six election
- 32:47based on a Forbes analysis of contributions reported by the
- 32:51Federal Election Commission. Look, Leon Black has serious ties to
- 32:57people like Jared Kushner. I'm sure that him and Donald
- 33:01Trump are homies, and I'm sure that all of the
- 33:06other people who have received money from him are going
- 33:12to be looking for ways to give it back. At
- 33:15this point, you would think right. Black has been on
- 33:21your scrutiny recently for his ties to the dead disgraced
- 33:23financier pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. The ties have begun to post
- 33:28problems for his massive private equity firm. Oh, isn't this nice?
- 33:34There are several people who were going to get to
- 33:38who have received money from him Democrats and Republicans alike.
- 33:42It's just unbelievable to me that these people would accept
- 33:48this money considering we all have known about Leon Black's
- 33:52involvement with Jeffrey Epstein for quite some time now. This
- 33:55is not something new. This is not a revelation that
- 33:58the Times broke, eh this is something that we have
- 34:02known for quite some time. And the fact that these
- 34:06people would take the money from this guy, knowing his
- 34:09ties to Jeffrey Epstein, it's repugnant. It's the same way
- 34:12I felt about good old Pete Buddha Judge taking money
- 34:16from Glenn Dubin. Oh, but he gave it back. That's
- 34:18not the point. The point is who's in charge of
- 34:23vetting these donors. GOP heavyweights are among the recipients of
- 34:30Black's donations, including Senate Majority Leader Cocaine Mitch McConnell himself
- 34:37fifty six hundred dollars, Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina
- 34:41fifty six hundred dollars, and Senator Tom Cotton of Arkansas
- 34:46twenty eight hundred dollars. About thirty three percent of his
- 34:49donations went to moderate Democrats like Chris Coons of Delaware
- 34:53and Senator Mark Warner of Virginia. So Cocaine, Mitch Graham,
- 35:01Tom Cotton, Chris Coons and Mark Warner, What are you
- 35:06going to do with that money that was donated to
- 35:08you by Leon Black? I would prefer if none of
- 35:13the politicians in America or you know, people running for
- 35:16office were tainted with ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Now, obviously
- 35:22it'll be well, we had no idea that mister Black
- 35:26was entangled with mister Epstein. That'll be the excuse from
- 35:29all of them. Meanwhile, these are the same people that
- 35:32want us to believe that they should be writing laws
- 35:34that are going to keep me or you out of
- 35:36jail or put us in jail. These are the people
- 35:39that we want in charge. Huh. But they had no
- 35:41idea and they couldn't vet who Leon Black was, or
- 35:44what his associations were or anything like that. They just
- 35:47accepted the money hand over fist. Do you know why,
- 35:50Because it's all about greed, and it's all about that
- 35:53out of state money. Folks. Let's get that out of
- 35:56state money into Arkansas. What the hell does Leon Black
- 36:00care about Arkansas or South Carolina? I mean, really, it's
- 36:06political kobooky and I am tired of it. Black's donations
- 36:13in twenty and nineteen and twenty and twenty decreased by
- 36:17some eighty percent compared to twenty and fifteen and twenty
- 36:21and sixteen, when Black gave about five hundred and seventy
- 36:24thousand dollars. Well, that's interesting. So his donations were clipped
- 36:31by eighty percent. I wonder why. I wonder why he
- 36:38stopped donating very interesting stuff now probably had something to
- 36:44do with the same reason most of these big Republican
- 36:48bundled bag men bounced out. A lot of them wanted
- 36:52nothing to do with Trump. We saw a lot of
- 36:54the traditional Republican donors really turn a blind you know,
- 36:59turn their their the other way and hold their noses
- 37:02over Trump. And who knows, maybe Black is one of
- 37:06those kind of dudes. But to me, I think that
- 37:10Leon Black is the kind of guy that understands that
- 37:14the presidential race really doesn't mean shit. He understands that
- 37:19these senators and these congress people where he puts, you know,
- 37:23a majority of his money, where he donates a majority
- 37:26of his money to both sides of the aisle, well
- 37:28he knows that those are the people that are writing
- 37:30the laws. Those are the people that really have an
- 37:34impact on his life, not some president that's there for
- 37:37four or eight years and who is managed behind the
- 37:39scenes by these money men. And that's all the presidents,
- 37:43by the way, Okay, every single one of them. The
- 37:48majority of those funds were directed to two super packs.
- 37:52Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars to Senate Majority Pack,
- 37:56which is the super pack supporting Democrats in the Senate,
- 37:59and one hundred and fifty thousand dollars to Congressional Leadership Fund,
- 38:03which is the super pack supporting Republicans in the House.
- 38:06Oh pretty sly huh. Two hundred and fifty thousand dollars
- 38:11to the Senate Majority Pack. Then that money will get
- 38:14distributed to various states, again outside dark money tanking state races.
- 38:21How many of these professors, how many of these lawyers?
- 38:25How many of these doctors would be elected in your
- 38:28home states and sent to DC if it was reliant
- 38:31only on the people of your state to fund the
- 38:35race and then to vote in the race. I am
- 38:37sure not too many of them. So, like I always say,
- 38:42it is time to vote these incumbents out, and then
- 38:46it is time for some strict guidelines, no outside money
- 38:50into Senate or congressional races, and term limits. If we
- 38:55can get those two things done, and you see them
- 38:58fighting tooth and nail against stuff like this. By by
- 39:00the way, if we can get those two things done,
- 39:03we can make sure that we have a fighting chance
- 39:06as a society without that stuff. Forget it. The political
- 39:10class is going to drag us all under with them.
- 39:15His spouse, Deborah Black, a theatrical producer and Melanoma Research
- 39:19Alliance co founder, gave less compared to her husband over
- 39:23the past year, with seventy eight thousand dollars going to
- 39:26candidates on both sides of the aisle. Black and his
- 39:29wife gave to many of the same congressional candidates, but
- 39:32about forty three percent of Deborah Black's donations went to Democrats.
- 39:36Like her husband. Deborah Black contributed more overall in the
- 39:40twenty sixteen cycle, but not by much, at one hundred
- 39:44and six thousand, five hundred dollars. So that's how they
- 39:48play the game, right, They're like they show up. They're like,
- 39:50all right, look, so I'm going to do I'm going
- 39:53to donate to the Republican senators. You donate to the
- 39:57Democratic congressman. And then you know, well, we'll make sure
- 40:00that we're covered on both ends. When these guys are
- 40:03writing laws, will be looked at favorably by both sides,
- 40:08and so the game goes. These people with all of
- 40:12this money, this dirty ass dark money that keeps pouring
- 40:16into these races, are such an impediment on actual freedom
- 40:22and free choice that it's not even funny. I mean,
- 40:25how much money gets poured into these states by people
- 40:28like Leon Black, and Leon Black's just one of these,
- 40:32one of these mega donors two hundred and fifty thousand
- 40:35dollars to a Senate a pack committee. It's just absurd.
- 40:39It is absolutely absurd. And these people like Leon Black,
- 40:46like Glenn Dubin, have no sense of right and wrong.
- 40:56They operate on a different level than the rest of
- 40:58us because all of this money that we're talking about,
- 41:02that they donate to the very people who write the laws.
- 41:08Black's political donations tapered off amid an ever expanding public
- 41:11relations crisis. Black, whose net worth Forbes estimates at seven
- 41:16point seven billion with a bee, is under fire for
- 41:19transferring over fifty million dollars to Epstein after he was
- 41:23convicted in two thousand and eight of soliciting prostitution from
- 41:27an underage girl. So all these people that received money
- 41:31from a Mitch McConnell, Coons and the rest, you better
- 41:36donate that money somewhere and then it's time to start
- 41:40explaining how you ended up taking money from Leon Black
- 41:44considering what the hell is going on right now. Like
- 41:48I say, this is not a news story. This is
- 41:50not something that just occurred. This is something that's been ongoing.
- 41:54This is something that a quick Google search for any
- 41:57of these people who accepted this money would have showed them.
- 42:00And I'll tell you what, I bet a bunch of
- 42:02them knew and they did not care. That conviction became
- 42:07the subject of a November twenty eighteen Miami Herald investigation,
- 42:12which found that Epstein negotiated what many believed to be
- 42:15an overly lenient plea deal with US attorneys after dozens
- 42:19of underage girls had accused him of sexual abuse. Blackfaced
- 42:24questions about his relationship with Epstein in July twenty nineteen,
- 42:29when The New York Post first reported that Epstein served
- 42:32on the board of the Black Foundation for four years
- 42:35following his two thousand and eight conviction. So you mean
- 42:38to tell me that the New York Post could break this.
- 42:41The New York Post can find this, But all of
- 42:44these so called rulers of the free world, all of
- 42:47these so called statesmen, couldn't figure it out. What a
- 42:52bunch of bozos. This is who we have entrusted our
- 42:55future to. This is who we have entrusted our safety to.
- 43:04Black is deep regret for his ties to Epstein, according
- 43:07to an October twelfth letter to investors and stress that
- 43:10the disgraced financier Pedophile never did any business with Apollo. Again,
- 43:15I find that to be ludicrous. Leon Black is Apollo,
- 43:20and Apollo is Leon Black. Come on, man. Black's ties
- 43:24to Epstein have begun to have financial ramifications for Apollo management.
- 43:29One of the country's biggest pension funds, the Pennsylvania Public
- 43:32School Employees' Retirement System, sat in an emailed statement to
- 43:35Forbes that it would not make any new investments in Apollo.
- 43:41We talked about this previously, and it's a huge deal.
- 43:45It's really a big deal, and I would not be shocked,
- 43:48like I said when we were discussing this, if other
- 43:52public pensions pulled back as well, because this is just
- 43:55a huge cloud hanging over your head. And if these
- 43:59public pensions are pulling back, don't you think the politicians
- 44:02would be falling all over themselves to give this money back.
- 44:05But no, they have to wait for a Forbes story
- 44:07to talk about it. They have to wait for me
- 44:10to talk about it. They have to wait for you
- 44:12to get mad about it. They just can't do the
- 44:14right thing. The decision was made the day after The
- 44:20New York Times revealed the fifty million dollars the fifty
- 44:23million dollar Epstein bombshell on October twelfth, FUN spokesman Steve
- 44:28Essek told Forbes that fifty million dollars looms large. There's
- 44:33no way that I believe that this was for some
- 44:36sort of charitable works. What the fifty million was for,
- 44:40I have no idea, folks. I won't even begin to speculate.
- 44:43But I do not think it's for what they said
- 44:45it was for, that's for sure, And I think that
- 44:50it's probably dirty money. Cambridge's Associates, a leading investment consulting firm,
- 44:57reportedly might stop recommending Apollo to its client representatives for
- 45:01Cambridge Associates to cline Forbes request to confirm this. So
- 45:05there is definitely that talk. We've heard that from several sources.
- 45:09I've talked to several people who have confirmed that Cambridge
- 45:13has definitely pulled back at this point as they await
- 45:16to see what occurs. But I don't think that our
- 45:20politicians have that sort of leeway. I think that they
- 45:24need to come out and condemn this shit right away.
- 45:27And if they've taken any money from Leon Black, it
- 45:29needs to be donated, it needs to be given back.
- 45:32They need to do something with it, because this is
- 45:35not a good look. Black wrote in a July twenty
- 45:41nineteen email to employees that the money he paid Epstein
- 45:45was for professional services to my family partnership and related
- 45:50family entities involving tax, estate planning and philanthropic advice. Again,
- 45:55why would Leon Black, who is worth seven point seven
- 45:59billion with a bee, need Jeffrey Epstein's punk ass to
- 46:04help him with anything, maybe pairing his socks, maybe driving
- 46:09him around the city financial advice. I'm not buying it
- 46:14for a second tax advice, a state planning. Really, Jeffrey
- 46:21Epstein's the best option you got there? Huh, mister Black.
- 46:26It is all absurd that they would think that we
- 46:28would believe this report surface this week that Black requested
- 46:33on Tuesday that the Apollo board hire an outside law
- 46:36firm to review his business dealings with Epstein. According to
- 46:39The Wall Street Journal, the review is Black's attempt to
- 46:42clear his name and would hopefully result in renewed investor confidence. Yeah.
- 46:48I'm sorry, but your independent review is not going to
- 46:52cut it all right. That's not going to take anyone's
- 46:56eyes off of your role in Jeffrey Epstein's behavior. That's
- 47:00not going to take anyone's eye off of your relationship
- 47:03with Jeffrey Epstein. If you really want to do the
- 47:06right thing, why don't you speak with the investigators. Why
- 47:08don't you call the lawyers for the survivors and sit
- 47:11down with those lawyers and talk to them. Maybe you
- 47:14know something and you don't know that you know it,
- 47:18but one thing is for sure, you're not going to
- 47:20avoid this, and this is not going to go away
- 47:24after some measly ass outside investigation. We've look We've seen
- 47:30how these outside investigations go. Look at the New York
- 47:33Academy of Arts and look at how they had to
- 47:36send out an apology to Maria afterwards. They don't look
- 47:39these outside law firms they're hired by these people. Do
- 47:43you really think that they they're going to they want
- 47:46to give their employers, their employers bad news about what
- 47:49they found, or are they going to you know, fudge
- 47:51some shit. Sorry, I don't have faith in the integrity
- 47:56of most of these lawyers, all right, Sorry, That's just
- 47:59how I feel. Representatives for Black and Apollo did not
- 48:04respond to questions from Forbes about his political giving and
- 48:08what he hopes the outside review of his business dealings
- 48:10with Epstein might accomplish. The political giving is unacceptable. Again, folks,
- 48:16I'm gonna drive this point home. I don't think that
- 48:19any outside money should come into these races, especially money
- 48:22from people like Leon Black. Why is he so concerned
- 48:25about what the hell happens in Arkansas? Meanwhile, Apollo co
- 48:31founder Mark Rowan and his wife Carolyn made at least
- 48:34one million dollars in political donations this year to the
- 48:37Trump Victory Pack, a joint fundraising effort between the president's
- 48:41re election campaign and the Republican National Committee, outstripping Black.
- 48:46Look again, when it comes to the presidential campaign, if
- 48:50people want to waste their money on that, I really
- 48:53don't give a shit one way or the other I
- 48:55believe that the presidential elections are just a waste of time.
- 48:59For the most part, nothing ever changes that. They're just
- 49:03another face that comes in and then another face that leaves.
- 49:09The real problem are these people behind the scenes with
- 49:13all this money pouring it into these races at a
- 49:17local level. In my opinion, I am truly convinced of
- 49:19that at this point, they're not gonna get me with
- 49:22their political kabuki anymore. They're not gonna get me with
- 49:25their political theater or their WWE style of politics, because
- 49:33I'm not falling for it. This is all garbage on
- 49:38the national stage. Whoever the president is, it's the same story, right.
- 49:42How many times do we see a president get elected
- 49:45and then right after the president get elected, his whole
- 49:47entire cabinet and staff is filled out with people from
- 49:50the financial sector, over and over and over again. And
- 49:56it's just it's it's rather apparent when you know what
- 49:59to look for, and when you're really looking for that
- 50:01kind of stuff, it's rather apparent that there is a
- 50:05serious problem with this sort of money pouring into our
- 50:10political system. NBC News reported Wednesday that back in April,
- 50:17rowan email Jared Kushner, President Trump's son in law and
- 50:20senior advisor, seeking relaxed coronavirus restrictions that would benefit Apollo.
- 50:26Kushner lands squarely in the middle of this, with Apollo
- 50:30reportedly dispersing one hundred and eighty four million dollar loan
- 50:33to his real estate company in twenty seventeen. Yeah, I'm
- 50:37sure that I had nothing to do with the fact
- 50:39that he's Donald Trump's son in law. I mean, nepotism
- 50:42never happens in this neck of the woods, right, none
- 50:45of these people ever benefit from their relationships, just like
- 50:50we shouldn't believe anything about hunter By. No, it's all bs.
- 50:56It is such a joke. How much in the pale
- 50:59the legacy media is for a ruling class on both
- 51:03sides of the isle. If they really cared, and if
- 51:07they really gave a shit the way they say they do,
- 51:09they would start right at the very dark heart of
- 51:12all of it, And that, my friends, is the financial sector,
- 51:17and people like Leon Black and the rest of the
- 51:20scuzbags would be forbidden from pouring their disgusting dirty money
- 51:27into every single state election, thus having control at least
- 51:35when it comes to distributing the money to these politicians
- 51:40for their reelection, etc. Etc. Over the decisions that these
- 51:44politicians are making. It is a big problem, and we
- 51:50see it here, and we see it as they dump
- 51:53money into both sides of the aisle. It's not about
- 51:55them being part of any sort of tribalistic party the
- 51:59way that they want everybody else to be. These people
- 52:02aren't at each other's throats. They're behind the scenes clanking
- 52:05their glasses and laughing about the transfer of wealth while
- 52:08you and I are being told that we should hate
- 52:09each other. All I could say is this from where
- 52:16I'm sitting and from my perspective, in my opinion, it
- 52:19is time to end all of this dirty money in
- 52:24American politics. It is time to stop all of this
- 52:27outside money dumping into states, and it is time to
- 52:31hold these politicians accountable for where they receive this money from.
- 52:40If you'd like to contact me, you can do that
- 52:42at Bobbykapucci at ProtonMail dot com. That's Bobby c ap
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