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Hutton & Withrow: Lane Kiffin vs. the SEC: LSU’s NFL Player Plan Shut Down + Tennessee’s Arian Carter Fight · Hutton & Withrow Show

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  Speaker 1: We are out of the gates of Sporting State. Good
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  Speaker 1: morning to you. Glad you're with us here for Hutton
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  Speaker 1: and Withrow. Chad, good to be with you, man.
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  Speaker 2: Good to see you.
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  Speaker 1: How was the evening? You know, it was good. How
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  Speaker 1: are you?
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  Speaker 3: You've gone a little dark on the group text. Are
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  Speaker 3: you upset about Lane Kiffin?
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  Speaker 2: No, man.
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  Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm good to go. Good to go. I
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  Speaker 1: went to bed early last night, actually. Nice. Got the
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  Speaker 1: most sleep I've had in a long time. And I
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  Speaker 1: won't hear any trash talk about going to sleep early
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  Speaker 1: when it comes to me. There you go.
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  Speaker 2: Hutton, you've turned over a new leaf. You're a new
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  Speaker 2: man now.
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  Speaker 3: When you get on that schedule, you can't get enough
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  Speaker 3: of it. When you're getting plenty of sleep.
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  Speaker 1: Every night, it's great. That's it. No kids. No kids.
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  Speaker 1: Plenty of sleep. I have no excuse.
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  Speaker 3: I had my first ever Board of Trust meeting last night.
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  Speaker 3: I'm on the board at my daughter's school. That was
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  Speaker 3: three hours, Hutton. That was three hours.
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  Speaker 1: Of my night.
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  Speaker 2: I'll just leave it there. I've got to be careful
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  Speaker 2: about what I say.
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  Speaker 3: I love to bring our lives onto this show a lot,
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  Speaker 3: but I was informed, given my job in this show,
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  Speaker 3: that there are certain things I can't bring to the.
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  Speaker 1: Show and discuss. Oh, wow.
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  Speaker 2: Are you kidding me?
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  Speaker 3: Because there could be legal issues that arise. There could
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  Speaker 3: be different things. For a school board meeting? I'll pick
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  Speaker 3: and choose on what I'm going to do. My daughter's school,
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  Speaker 3: as you can see right here, DCA, that was the lamest.
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  Speaker 3: The way I did it, This reminds me of someone
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  Speaker 3: that we know, the way I winked at the coffee mug.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know what I was doing there. It felt
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  Speaker 3: like my wrist became gelatinous all of a sudden. But
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  Speaker 3: either way, I'm here. I'm ready to go. I'm fully rested.
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  Speaker 3: You're fully rested. Let's bang this thing out today, baby.
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  Speaker 1: Let's bang some hats. We will, man. Coming up, we
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  Speaker 1: discuss Arion Carter, SEC versus Kiffin, and much more. Rest
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  Speaker 1: in peace to the wonderful Dolly Parton. Passes away at
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  Speaker 1: the age of 80. queen of country and the queen
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  Speaker 1: of our hearts man her her ability to give back
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  Speaker 1: not just to the community but to anybody that was
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  Speaker 1: around her was in uh just impossible to reproduce man
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  Speaker 1: like she's uh one of a kind and so many
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  Speaker 1: great stories that have poured out since news came out
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  Speaker 1: of her passing but like chad you just drive across
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  Speaker 1: the state of tennessee she's everywhere you turn.
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  Speaker 2: It really is incredible.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we were in Birmingham recently, Hutton, and we
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  Speaker 3: passed the Dolly Parton truck stop and stopped in. And
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  Speaker 3: you see the silhouette of Dolly Parton. And by the way,
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  Speaker 3: delicious biscuits in that truck stop. So shout out to
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  Speaker 3: Dolly Parton's truck stop on the Tennessee-Alabama state line. It's
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  Speaker 3: cool to go through, you know, on the X tab,
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  Speaker 3: occasionally get sucked into the 4U tab. With people you're
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  Speaker 3: not following? This is one of the few times that actually...
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  Speaker 3: That's actually it for me. I get trapped in there
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  Speaker 3: because I don't realize I'm in that tab. Exactly the
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  Speaker 3: same for me. I start realizing, like, hey, this is
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  Speaker 3: like 10 in a row I've seen that I don't follow.
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  Speaker 3: So then I go up to the top and I
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  Speaker 3: realize I'm in the For You tab. This is one
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  Speaker 3: of those rare instances, though, where I actually enjoy it
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  Speaker 3: because I'm seeing tributes from people and old videos of
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  Speaker 3: her singing Islands in the Stream with Kenny Rogers on
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  Speaker 3: different shows and in different concerts. I saw one where
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  Speaker 3: she's on vacation in Ireland in 1990, and she gets
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  Speaker 3: pulled up on stage in a pub, and the owner
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  Speaker 3: asks her to sing, and she gives a perfect rendition
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  Speaker 3: of Coat of Many Colors in front of all the
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  Speaker 3: Irish people.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, just pitch perfect.
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  Speaker 1: The whole time.
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  Speaker 3: Someone who embodied, I think, kindness to everyone, like not
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  Speaker 3: a bad thing said about her.
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  Speaker 1: Totally agree.
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  Speaker 3: My daughters, they've read every single book that she sent
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  Speaker 3: every month for the first five years of their lives.
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  Speaker 3: I don't think many people realize that. All the giving
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  Speaker 3: back she does with her imagination library, and JT can
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  Speaker 3: speak to this too, who's big in the country music world.
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  Speaker 3: The imagination library gives every Tennessean child a book for
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  Speaker 3: every month for the first five years of their lives.
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  Speaker 3: And they actually have a signup form at every Tennessee hospital.
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  Speaker 3: It's with the birth of your child. you can sign up.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, one day electing to be an
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  Speaker 3: organ donor when you go get your driver's license. You
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  Speaker 3: can sign up when you have a child in a
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee hospital to be a part of the Imagination Library.
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  Speaker 1: It's very cool.
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  Speaker 3: And JT, I know you're big in the world of
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  Speaker 3: country music. This one hit hard when I saw your
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  Speaker 3: text first about Dolly passing.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, man, I never had a chance to meet her.
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  Speaker 4: A lot of people do. You talk about the Imagination Library.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, Both of my girls have got it. I
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  Speaker 4: think the number is over 300 million books that she's
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  Speaker 4: distributed worldwide.
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  Speaker 1: This is not a Tennessee thing.
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  Speaker 5: I think she launched that back in the mid-90s.
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  Speaker 6: Dollywood, 40 years ago, gets 4 million people a year,
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  Speaker 6: I think, there. I think your life is just kind
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  Speaker 6: of a testament to kind of dream it big, believing
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  Speaker 6: in yourself, being good to other people. She was raised
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  Speaker 6: in a one-bedroom house with 12 siblings.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it's just kind of tough. You think about
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  Speaker 4: my nine-year-old's wearing a Dolly shirt to school today, and
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  Speaker 4: Juicy J from 3-6 Mafia is tweeting about her yesterday.
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  Speaker 4: I mean, it just goes from one direction to the other. So, yeah,
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  Speaker 4: rest in peace. She's definitely someone who's super special.
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  Speaker 1: I was also just shocked.
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  Speaker 3: I know she's 80, but you see her, and she
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  Speaker 3: feels so omnipresent.
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  Speaker 1: At all times in.
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  Speaker 3: Show business that every time you see her, she seems
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  Speaker 3: and looks healthy.
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  Speaker 1: She sounds healthy.
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  Speaker 3: So to see that news that she had passed away
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  Speaker 3: was even for a woman in her, in her early
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  Speaker 3: eighties was shocking to me.
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  Speaker 1: The only thing I remember, uh, about not the only thing,
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  Speaker 1: but like one of the big things I remember is
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  Speaker 1: she refused to go out of her own, her own
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  Speaker 1: home unless she was dressed to the nines, you know,
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  Speaker 1: like she, she did, she had someone to help her
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  Speaker 1: with her makeup and all that stuff. But if she
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  Speaker 1: wasn't ready to go, you never saw her unless she
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  Speaker 1: was ready to go like 10 out of 10. There
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  Speaker 1: was no, like, today's a bad day for Dolly. If
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  Speaker 1: she was out, she was ready to go. She was
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  Speaker 1: like she was every other day.
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  Speaker 4: I think she performed 10-ish days ago and kind of
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  Speaker 4: told people she was dealing with some stuff and dehydrated
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  Speaker 4: and whatnot.
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  Speaker 2: So definitely be missed.
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  Speaker 4: But she was definitely a good one for all of Tennessee,
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  Speaker 4: the entire country music world, and, heck, the world itself.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, appreciate you, JT. Dollywood, too, also very underrated.
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  Speaker 3: Dollywood was– I mean, I've been one time, and I
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  Speaker 3: was blown away. This was probably two or three years
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  Speaker 3: ago I went, but it's incredible. I've never been to
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  Speaker 3: Splash Country, Hutton, but I hear the water park's even
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  Speaker 3: better than the actual park.
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  Speaker 1: No, I still choose Dollywood over that, but Splash Country's
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  Speaker 1: pretty cool. But, like, Dolly's Dream More Hotel– I've stayed
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  Speaker 1: there before. Everything is branded perfectly, but it's meticulous. It's
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  Speaker 1: meticulous Dolly Parton. It's one of a kind.
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  Speaker 3: Well, speaking of meticulous, just showing her kindness and thoughtfulness
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  Speaker 3: with everything that she did, JT uncovered a letter she
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  Speaker 3: sent to John Ward, former voice of the Vols, upon
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  Speaker 3: his retirement in 1998. And you can see it on
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  Speaker 3: the screen right there. But the level that she goes
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  Speaker 3: to with the letter that she sends to him about
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  Speaker 3: loving listening to him call Vols games, how she's a
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  Speaker 3: Vols fan and he's Tennessean, and how he's a Gardner
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  Speaker 3: and that she's a Gardner also, and he could come
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  Speaker 3: and trim the hedges at Dollywood at some point. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's things like this. It's one thing that I think
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  Speaker 3: when Peyton Manning passes away, hopefully many, many years from now,
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  Speaker 3: he writes so many letters to people, there's so much correspondence.
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  Speaker 1: Hutton, you're a fan of history also.
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  Speaker 3: We have so much history because of letters sent from
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  Speaker 3: Civil War generals to a wife or to a friend
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  Speaker 3: or to another general or someone else. We know so
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  Speaker 3: much about presidents back in the day because they were
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  Speaker 3: so well-versed and well-written and they were constantly writing correspondence
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  Speaker 3: out and we can piece together a life based on
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  Speaker 3: what they write. I think that's just a little piece
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  Speaker 3: of Dolly Parton that you see come out in that
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  Speaker 3: letter to John Ward that starts to tell the story
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  Speaker 3: of Kind of like a coat of many colors that
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  Speaker 3: starts to tell that story of.
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  Speaker 1: A full life.
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  Speaker 2: And boy, did she live one.
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  Speaker 3: It's incredible to see all the tributes pouring in. I
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  Speaker 3: saw Jack White was performing in London last night and
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  Speaker 3: did a rendition of Jolene after Dolly Parton passed away.
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  Speaker 3: So there's going to be a lot more tributes pouring in.
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  Speaker 3: But man, oh man, that one hit hard for a
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  Speaker 3: couple of Tennessee boys like us.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, man.
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  Speaker 1: It's just a piece of history, like Chad's mentioning there.
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  Speaker 1: And the Dolly Parton I think she's one of the
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  Speaker 1: people that you take for granted until you realize how
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  Speaker 1: much she meant to everybody. She was a staple in
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  Speaker 1: every genre of every turn of someone's life if you
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  Speaker 1: grew up in the state of Tennessee.
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  Speaker 3: We did this exercise with Hutton and Withrow where we're
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  Speaker 3: not Mount Rushmore guys.
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  Speaker 1: The summer season of sports... When it's.
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  Speaker 3: Like, let's put together our Mount Rushmore of basketball and
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  Speaker 3: do all that. We find that to be lazy. But
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  Speaker 3: this was the one time I was like, you know what?
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  Speaker 3: A Mount Rushmore of Tennesseans. This came up in a
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  Speaker 3: group text that I'm on. But it started to think about,
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  Speaker 3: if you just think of legendary, accomplished, true Tennesseans, when
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  Speaker 3: you think of the word Tennessee, the name Tennessee, these
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  Speaker 3: four people popped to mind. And I went with General Nealon,
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  Speaker 3: Davy Crockett, Andrew Jackson, and Dolly Parton. This has gotten
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  Speaker 3: such a big response. Dolly Parton, Hutton, I think this
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  Speaker 3: is a testament to how it feels like she's sort
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  Speaker 3: of the world's. She belongs to everyone. She certainly belongs.
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  Speaker 1: To Tennessee and East Tennessee specifically.
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  Speaker 3: No one's arguing about Dolly Parton, and maybe that is
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  Speaker 3: recency bias. I will say, I have been ripped to
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  Speaker 3: shreds from people when I posted this about not including Elvis.
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  Speaker 1: Elvis should be up here.
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  Speaker 3: Many people argue that Elvis should be in place of
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  Speaker 3: General Nealon.
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  Speaker 2: Look, my immediate reaction is this.
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  Speaker 3: Let me get into my immediate reaction to how I've
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  Speaker 3: come a long way from my immediate reaction. My immediate
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  Speaker 3: reaction to Elvis, and I just watched the Elvis biopic recently.
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  Speaker 1: I love it. I like Elvis. He's obviously, he changed.
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  Speaker 3: Music forever and for the better, okay? When I think
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  Speaker 3: of Elvis, though, I think it's, when I think Dolly Parton,
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  Speaker 3: I think Tennessean. I think a Tennessean that was loved
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  Speaker 3: by the world but gave back to Tennessee and gave
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  Speaker 3: so much back to Tennessee. When I think of Elvis,
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  Speaker 3: I don't initially think Tennessean. I know that he built
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  Speaker 3: his home in Memphis at Graceland. If you're talking about
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  Speaker 3: the most famous buildings in the state of Tennessee, it's
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  Speaker 3: Neyland Stadium, which is on the Mount Rushmore.
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  Speaker 1: It's the Ryman and it's.
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  Speaker 3: Graceland are probably the three most famous buildings. So Elvis
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  Speaker 3: is a part of that with Graceland.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 3: But I think of like Nicole Kidman, who's accomplished things
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  Speaker 3: all over the world and lives in Tennessee. When I
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  Speaker 3: think of Elvis Presley, I'm not putting Nicole Kidman in
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  Speaker 3: Elvis Presley's category at all in terms of celebrity or accomplishment.
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  Speaker 3: Don't get me wrong with that. But yeah, I've come around.
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  Speaker 3: Elvis Presley probably should be on that list. But I'm
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  Speaker 3: going to have a hard time, personally, if I'm putting
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  Speaker 3: this list together, taking General Nealon off of the list, too,
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  Speaker 3: because he contributed so much to football. And his name's
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  Speaker 3: also on the most famous building in the state.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, Elvis should be on there over Nealon. I
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  Speaker 1: would also say that I don't think I would think
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  Speaker 1: of Davy Crockett as quickly as you did, if not
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  Speaker 1: for Crockett Coffee. I don't think that Davey Crockett wouldn't
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  Speaker 1: pop to mind as fast as Elvis would pop to mind.
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  Speaker 3: So the, the other top submissions Hutton over the, not
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  Speaker 3: many people, some argued over Davey Crockett because he left
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  Speaker 3: Tennessee to go to Texas because he was mad at,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't like Andrew Jackson.
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  Speaker 2: They, they, they.
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  Speaker 3: Quarreled and fought. So there was, there was some things
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  Speaker 3: going on there. And of course, you know, Andrew Jackson,
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  Speaker 3: you can just say that name and, people have reasons
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  Speaker 3: as to.
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  Speaker 2: Why he probably shouldn't be on the Mount Rushmore.
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  Speaker 1: Andrew Jackson is on the, on the Mount Rushmore.
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  Speaker 2: I totally agree.
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  Speaker 3: He's on the Mount Rushmore, but some people, you know,
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  Speaker 3: called me a savage murderer because I put them on
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  Speaker 3: the list, which was.
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  Speaker 2: To be expected.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: They both, they both had their, their pelts in the day.
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  Speaker 2: That's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Look, they wrote a lot of letters. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: The other ones that were the most common that, Hey,
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  Speaker 3: you should include Alvin C York, which is, Tough to
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  Speaker 3: argue with that. General Nealon also fought in wars too,
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  Speaker 3: but that's the level of Alvin C. York.
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  Speaker 1: So I'll hear that submission.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, with a night to sleep on it,
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  Speaker 3: people like Chad, you're a reasonable person.
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  Speaker 1: This argument over Elvis is not reasonable.
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  Speaker 3: I react emotionally like Deshaun Watson does to getting booed
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  Speaker 3: at times. I got booed by people with Elvis Presley
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  Speaker 3: and I reacted emotionally and I fired off some things.
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  Speaker 3: And with a night to sleep on it, I'm thinking, okay,
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  Speaker 3: I'll hear your Elvis arguments.
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  Speaker 1: The other big argument.
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  Speaker 2: Is Pat Summitt.
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  Speaker 3: People are saying Pat Summitt may be even ahead of
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  Speaker 3: General Neyland because.
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  Speaker 2: She's from the state.
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  Speaker 3: She is all Tennessee all the way through. General Neyland
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  Speaker 3: didn't move to Tennessee until he was 33 years old.
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  Speaker 1: He's a Texan. He went to West Point.
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  Speaker 3: But he transformed Tennessee football and in many ways college
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  Speaker 3: football with how the game is played.
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  Speaker 2: So I'll hear it, okay?
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  Speaker 3: If you want to change out Davey Crockett and Robert Nealon,
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  Speaker 3: and we can put a– No.
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  Speaker 2: Let's do this.
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  Speaker 3: I think we need to change out Elvis. If Brooks Carter–
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  Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying. If Brooks Carter is listening right now,
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  Speaker 3: because we put this together yesterday, let's get a separate
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  Speaker 3: one up there. Let's replace Davey Crockett and Robert Nealon
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  Speaker 3: with Pat Summitt and Elvis. So now the new Mount
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  Speaker 3: Rushmore Hutton, because– I did this on my own.
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  Speaker 2: I sent it to the group. I said, this is
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  Speaker 2: my initial thought.
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  Speaker 1: What do you think? A lot of people loved it.
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  Speaker 1: Some didn't. But I'm willing to compare the two.
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  Speaker 3: Let's do an either-or with a graphic, okay? The one
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  Speaker 3: that I put together yesterday and another one that replaces
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  Speaker 3: Davy Crockett and replaces General Nealon with Pat Summitt and
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  Speaker 3: with Elvis. And I'm willing to bet that the new
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  Speaker 3: one will win in favor of most people and say, okay,
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  Speaker 3: that is the one now. So that would be Andrew Jackson,
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  Speaker 3: Dolly Parton, Elvis, Pat Summitt. So we'll let people vote online,
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  Speaker 3: but you can chime in also in the YouTube chat
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  Speaker 3: where I'm going to right now for the first time
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• 15:26
  Speaker 3: So it's funny you bring this up because today, Hutton,
• 15:32
  Speaker 3: today is the day of reconciliation. I'm having to reconcile
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: my Mount Rushmore. I'm having to come back and say
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: something different than I said originally. Lane Kiffin, can't wait
• 15:43
  Speaker 3: to hear him talk because he went on Pat McAfee
• 15:46
  Speaker 3: and other shows and defended and said, hey, everybody's going
• 15:48
  Speaker 3: to do it, guys.
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: Everybody's going to jump in the water.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: I'm just doing what everybody else is doing.
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: I don't like it like anyone else.
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: And then it comes out that Lane Kiffin was the
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: one in LSU telling these guys to file lawsuits to
• 16:00
  Speaker 3: come back to school. And now his boss at the
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: SEC is like, we will penalize you. I was shocked,
• 16:06
  Speaker 3: by the way.
• 16:06
  Speaker 1: We'll get into that later.
• 16:08
  Speaker 2: But also now, the NCAA Hutton.
• 16:10
  Speaker 3: has egg in their face because everyone in America blasted
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: them when they suspended Arian Carter. And then all this
• 16:17
  Speaker 3: starts happening with NFL players, and we're all saying this
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: is completely ridiculous. And they say, okay, okay, you guys might–
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: it's like me with my Elvis take. All right, guys,
• 16:26
  Speaker 3: all right, you might have an argument here. You might
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: have an argument. We'll suspend him for one game. Tennessee
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: AD Danny Whitehutton comes back and says, still too much.
• 16:35
  Speaker 3: It's still ridiculous that he has to sit for one game,
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: but it's better than two. And, look, I understand, like,
• 16:42
  Speaker 3: the goal is for him not to play too many
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: snaps against Furman anyways.
• 16:46
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: We're not going there. We're not going there. Play him, right?
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: Play him. Play him. Thank you. We're not going with this, oh,
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: he's not going to play that much against Furman anyway.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: No, no, no.
• 16:55
  Speaker 1: If you're going to play him, if your stance was
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: play him against Georgia Tech, then now you play him
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: against Furman. That's just how it should be. Screw the
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: NCAA on this. And the bow down to the NCAA continues.
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: I don't understand why because they keep coming back and
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: reducing this to the point where they're telling us that
• 17:14
  Speaker 1: they know it's ridiculous. But they just can't come wash
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: it off and say no suspension whatsoever. They're trying to
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: act like they have some type of spine, some type
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: of backbone. They don't. So I would stand up to
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: them and be like, yeah, we're playing against Furman for
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: the first half. We're suspending him for the second half
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: against Furman.
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: I am curious if Tennessee agreed to a compromise of
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: one game for Furman or if they continued? But you
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: see what I'm saying?
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: They agreed to the compromise of two.
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: They didn't agree to that either. They don't want any.
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: It was reduced from three to two. I understand, but
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: here's what I'm asking. I don't know the answer to this.
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Did Tennessee say before this was released, okay, we'll accept that,
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: so go ahead and adjust it to one game, or
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: did Tennessee continue to fight and say it's no games?
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: It's zero games.
• 18:04
  Speaker 3: And the NCAA came back on their own and said, no,
• 18:06
  Speaker 3: it's one game now.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: The AD doesn't come out and say what he says
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: if they say, okay, we'll accept that. I would agree.
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: And the AD also saying, look, I have my head
• 18:14
  Speaker 3: coaches back and everything that he said, which he said
• 18:16
  Speaker 3: it's all BS. And he continues to say that. And
• 18:19
  Speaker 3: he completely agrees with everything going on in the sport. Look,
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: it's better than not playing against Georgia Tech.
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: That's a better situation than that.
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: But... I'm with you.
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: I start him. I play him for the half or
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: whatever he's going to play against Furman. And you roll
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: the dice and see what happens and see if the
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: NCAA just forgets about it.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: What's the worst that could happen here? I mean, honestly,
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: compared to what's going on across college football. They're going
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: to get so pissed off at LSU, they're going to
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: take it out on Tennessee. Not anymore. None of this mindset.
• 18:56
  Speaker 2: The old mindset's gone.
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: Where we just... where Tennessee just bows down to whatever the,
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: whatever NCAA wants.
• 19:02
  Speaker 2: Meanwhile, you watch everyone else just run roughshod.
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, no. That mindset's gone. I'm tired
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: of that.
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: If you remember a year ago when Nate Oates in
• 19:12
  Speaker 3: Alabama started playing Charles Bediako, I mean, the immediate response
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: from Greg Sankey was it's not allowed.
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: It's not legal.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Everyone was saying it with our rules, it's not legal,
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: but the court said it's okay. So we're, we're telling
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: you it's not legal. But they're also saying in the
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: court injunction, you can't penalize them after the fact.
• 19:30
  Speaker 2: Right, right. Because he's following a court order.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Yes. But it didn't stop Alabama.
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: It didn't stop Nate Oates from going up to the
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: podium after games and saying ridiculous things about the reason
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: they were doing it. We're looking out for the kid
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: here at Alabama. You know, the kid really, really needed
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: to come back and play.
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: We're here for the kids. Whatever, BS.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: We need to find a photo of Will Wade hugging R.J.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: Lewis like he was a returning war hero after he
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: got done with his court case in the hallway. Like
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: I said yesterday, O.J., when he got acquitted and he's
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: hugging his legal defense team and crying all the time.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: Robert Kardashian. You know, he's thanking God, looking up to
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: the heavens.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: That was Will Wade with R.J. Lewis because this adult
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: grown man who....
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the Arion Carter thing. I'm happy for him. He's
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: a good kid. He did everything right. He followed the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: procedure that you would want to follow if you are
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: in his situation, going to the combine or wanting to
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: go to the combine, hiring an agent, paying that agent
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: back for a flight. I mean, the whole thing's laughable.
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: The NCAA should rescind his entire suspension based on what
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: we're seeing right now at LSU. That's the truth. And
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: that's why there's no way that Tennessee agreed to this.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: If they did, I've lost a lot of respect for them.
• 20:52
  Speaker 2: I don't think they agreed to it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: I'm just asking the question, was it a preconceived compromise
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: where they're like, okay, we'll allow this if you're Tennessee?
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Here's the other thing, too.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: What is the penalty if you defy the NCAA right now?
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: There's more of a penalty if you defy your own conference.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: If you're a Big Ten school and you go against
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: the conference with something, to me there are worse ramifications
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: for that than if you go against the NCAA. I'd
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: say the same for Lane Kiffin and LSU with the
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: SEC right now.
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: I would think so. It was a 16-0 vote.
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: And the SEC has a history of making sure it's
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: unanimous before they put a vote out there. But their
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: own president voted against what Lane Kiffin is doing at LSU.
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: So if Lane Kiffin and the football team decided we're
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: just going to continue on, and play these guys and
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: bring them in, I think there are bigger ramifications, Hutton,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: for that than there is if you're Tennessee and you
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: go against the NCAA and say we're going to play
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: Arion Carter no matter what.
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: Chad, Arion Carter means what to Tennessee's defense against Georgia Tech?
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: Arion Carter means leadership and versatility. And what I mean
• 21:56
  Speaker 3: by the versatility piece is this. Tennessee has yet to
• 21:59
  Speaker 3: define a true edge rusher. I think Jordan Norman, the
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: transfer from Tulane, is going to get the first shot
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: at it. I think Christian Gass might be a guy
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: that comes in and plays edge. But with losing Chaz Coleman,
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: who left the team, who was their big money NIL
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: transfer portal addition as an edge rusher, Jim Knowles, who
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: is capable of doing this, is going to have to
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: get creative. I think you're going to see Arian Carter.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: line up his edge in past situations because they've got
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: plenty of linebackers. They could move Arion Carter to more
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: of an edge rusher and play other good linebackers without
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: a huge drop-off. They don't have edge rushers right now.
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: I think Jeremiah T. Lander is a guy who's going
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: to play some edge. Two guys we talked to in Tampa, Hutton,
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: in T. Lander and Arion Carter. To me, that's what
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: he brings to the table, not just his NFL-type ability,
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: and we saw that with some unbelievable plays he's made
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: over the last two years. but also the ability to
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: slide him out, put him as an edge rusher, blitz
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: him from different spots. I think that versatility that he brings,
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: it's an X factor for Tennessee's defense and what Jim
• 23:01
  Speaker 3: Knowles can do.
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: Well, and I think, too, they have the flexibility of
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: that position because they were moving on from Arian Carter.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: They had already recruited past him because they thought he
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: was going pro. So that's actually the benefit of the
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: conundrum that they got stuck in. whatever Carter was able
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: to come back. And they brought in a Penn State
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: transfer in Amari Campbell. And the transfer, yeah. Who's a
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: death piece.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: When they brought him in, you thought, okay, this is
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: a straight one-for-one replacement for Arian Carter that knows the
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: Jim Knowles defense. So, yeah, I think Tennessee was prepared
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: for that at linebacker. Not at every position. They're not
• 23:41
  Speaker 3: going to be really deep everywhere, but they're pretty deep
• 23:43
  Speaker 3: at that position. So getting Carter back was just a
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: gigantic bonus.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Is that their best position top to bottom?
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: I would put that offensive line running back as probably
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: the best positions for Tennessee. I really think that what
• 24:02
  Speaker 3: we're going to find out quickly with Tennessee this year
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: is that running game is maybe the best in the
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: SEC or one of the two or three best. I
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: think Deshaun Bishop is so steady. He is such a big,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: powerful dude, but he's got some speed. I think Javen
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: Gordon is going to be a revelation there. when he
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: comes into the game because of his home run ability.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: I think DeJuan Morris is pushing him right now. The
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: Oakland High School standout to be a backup also. Those
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: three guys behind that veteran offensive line, I've combined those
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: two together and I say, what do you feel best.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: About this year? I think it's Tennessee's running game.
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: Oh, by the way, let's add the third element of
• 24:40
  Speaker 3: Faison Brandon's legs in the run game also, which there's
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: going to be more design runs within the offense for him.
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: But I think it is linebacker. If I had to
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: pick one.
• 24:50
  Speaker 3: Just group, I think it's the depth of linebacker with T. Lander, Carter,
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: Edwin Spillman. I mean, they got a lot of dudes
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: coming back who've played a lot of football that you
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: feel really good about that position. Not to mention Braden
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: Rouse and T.J. White, two freshmen that are terrific that
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: in most years probably both could start for Tennessee at linebacker,
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: but they're just so deep with veterans. And they're still
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: going to be rotational guys. And I would say, can
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: they generate pass rush?
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: Can this defense find a pass rush, which has eluded
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: them in past years to the point where I'm talking
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: about consistency, where you need a good stop, you find
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: a good stop. Can they find that with these guys?
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: I don't know how they don't with the skill set
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: that these guys have, with T. Lander, with Carter, and others.
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: If you're the defensive coordinator, how can you not manufacture
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: a pass rush?
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: I think the big key is Communication on defense with
• 25:46
  Speaker 3: Jim Knowles' defense and what he's trying to do. And
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: how quickly can they get to 70% of the playbook
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: on defense? I would say they're probably at 55% or 60%
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: of what they want.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: To do right now.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: Can you get to 70% by Auburn, by that game,
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: let's say? Even past Georgia Tech, you've got to win
• 26:06
  Speaker 3: Georgia Tech at all costs. It's one of those games
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: that however you get it done, just don't get it
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: done on the road. But then can you... gear up
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: against Kennesaw State, and then get to 70%, 75% of
• 26:18
  Speaker 3: the playbook available by Auburn. That, to me, is a
• 26:22
  Speaker 3: big key for this team. But you've got to master
• 26:24
  Speaker 3: the basics first. Hey, we're in this set. This is
• 26:27
  Speaker 3: what we're looking at. We've got to be in position
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: to make a play because we've got some dudes on defense,
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: but we can't have miscommunication. We can't have busts in
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: the back end. You can't get too cute too early
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: in the season. To me, that's something I'm going to
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: be following, just like everybody's going to be watching Faison Brandon.
• 26:43
  Speaker 3: in his first start against Furman. How does he run tempo?
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: How does he master the offense? How does he read pre-snap, post-snap?
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: Because Josh Heupel has a lot of the quarterback in
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: his offense. I mean, there's a lot of quick pre-snap
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: reads where he's shifting to something else or doing something
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: else based on what he's seeing. How good are Faison
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: Brandon's eyes? How good are Jim Knoll's adjustments? That's something
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: I'm watching early. If they can get up to speed quickly...
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: I think this Tennessee defense, again, they were 96th in
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: the country a year ago in overall defense.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: Terrible.
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: After having a top 10 defense the year before in 2024.
• 27:20
  Speaker 3: If they can become a top 30 defense by season's end,
• 27:25
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• 27:27
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• 30:55
  Speaker 3: whatever you need me to be because we are back
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: on podcast.
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: How about Leslie on social? I was married for 26
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: years and my husband never had coffee. So until such
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: time as you have proof of someone doing something or not,
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: probably nice idea to not call someone a liar. Leslie,
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: I'm going to call your husband and Tom Brady a liar. No. Oh,
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: your husband's a liar.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: All right. He's lying to you.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Hate to break it to you, honey. He's never had
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: coffee for 26 years.
• 31:25
  Speaker 3: No. You know, catfish Jake says he's never tasted coffee.
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: In his life also in the chat. He said, funny enough,
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: also never had coffee.
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: I think Jake says he's never tasted coffee. He's never
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: tried coffee. Like, look, if you're like Mormon. When I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: say had, not like, okay, this woman is saying that
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: in 26 years of marriage, her husband has never had coffee.
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that he hasn't tried coffee.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: Like, it just means he hasn't had coffee within 26
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: years of marriage.
• 31:51
  Speaker 3: I'm sure she thinks she knows everything about her husband, too,
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: his entire life. I know every second of my husband's life,
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: from birth, through middle school, through high school, through college.
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Leslie. How dare we call Tom Brady a liar?
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: How dare we? Come on. How dare we? He's not Christ.
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: Come on.
• 32:12
  Speaker 2: I know that he eats like Christ, but he's not.
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know.
• 32:16
  Speaker 3: In terms of what he consumes. Even Jesus had wine, though.
• 32:19
  Speaker 3: And Tom Brady doesn't even do that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: He does the tequila, though.
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely partaking. He's imbibed.
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: That's for sure. Yes, he's imbibed. That's a good word, imbibed.
• 32:31
  Speaker 2: We need to use the word imbibed more often.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: He's imbibed.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Chad, coming up later, are we going to do primary
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: complaints since it's Wednesday? Mark Herman in the chat says,
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: it takes real balls to call Brady a liar. That's
• 32:43
  Speaker 3: what we have on this show, balls.
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: Liar.
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: We have national balls on this show. That's what we're
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: going to be talking about later. Chad, are we doing
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: primary complaint today? I can come up with a primary complaint.
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: I'm sure I can do something later on in the show.
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do one later in the show.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: Let's do one around 8.15 or 9.15 or 9.30 Eastern Time.
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: Sure. We can do a primary complaint.
• 33:05
  Speaker 3: I bet JT can come up with a primary complaint, too.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: Absolutely. We haven't done this in so long. Leslie. Leslie's
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: one of them.
• 33:15
  Speaker 3: I've got a number of them on social media just
• 33:18
  Speaker 3: this week alone that I could point to as a
• 33:20
  Speaker 3: primary complaint.
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: Doug Stern, never had coffee in my life. Many people
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: I know have not. I'm sorry. I've never met anyone
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: who hasn't tried coffee. It's okay if you don't drink coffee,
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: but you've at least tried it to know you don't
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: like it.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: How did we tap into the anti-coffee lobby so quickly?
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: Why are people so passionate about not doing something?
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: Doug says, it's bad for you. Why would I put
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it into me? I'm just saying a lot of people
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: have tried coffee.
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: Doug's not going to put that one in the temple, huh? Lord.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Put coffee in? It's too much. It's a bridge too far, coffee.
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: Can't do it.
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: I don't understand anybody who's passionate about not believing in something.
• 34:09
  Speaker 3: If you haven't had coffee, whatever. I just don't like
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: the taste. Everyone's tried coffee. Didn't like it. Most people,
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: I tried it, didn't like it. I'd rather have a
• 34:16
  Speaker 3: Red Bull or Mountain Dew for caffeine or whatever.
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: It's fine.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I'm totally okay with that. But to claim you've never
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: tried coffee... is ridiculous and also to be passionate about
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: not having coffee like this is one of the things
• 34:29
  Speaker 3: I have never had it when you meet your maker
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: like Dolly Parton did yesterday And they talk about you
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: as a person. Are they going to say, you know,
• 34:39
  Speaker 3: Ricky was a really good guy.
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: And Ricky did a lot of.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: Things really well.
• 34:43
  Speaker 3: He was a great family man. He was a great
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: father to his kids. He was a great son. And
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: by God, the guy never touched coffee his entire life.
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: And he stuck to.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Those principles of not drinking coffee.
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: He was anti-coffee from the cradle to the grave. And
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: that's how we will remember Ricky today. is that Ricky
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: never took a sip of coffee.
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: I feel the same way about that as I do atheists.
• 35:07
  Speaker 3: When you're passionately against not believing something, I don't understand
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: where that passion comes from. You're passionately atheist, so you
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: passionately don't believe there's a God or.
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: Anything going on.
• 35:18
  Speaker 3: How can you be passionate about that? You're passionate about disbelief.
• 35:23
  Speaker 3: I don't get it, Hutton.
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: I don't get it. So many primary complaints. Yeah, there's
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: Hutton and Withrow who tried coffee that desecrated their bodies.
• 35:33
  Speaker 3: I mean, you can take one look at me and say, yeah,
• 35:35
  Speaker 3: this is a guy who's probably desecrated his body at some.
• 35:36
  Speaker 2: Point in his life, and that's fine. It's certainly not
• 35:39
  Speaker 2: from the coffee.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: I'm drinking right now. It's not because of the freaking coffee.
• 35:41
  Speaker 2: Especially if it's.
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: Crockett coffee, which I'm drinking, and it's delicious. More on
• 35:45
  Speaker 1: Crockett coffee later, for sure.
• 35:47
  Speaker 3: Is this the best Crockett coffee ad that's ever been done?
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: Is this conversation right now?
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: It's the ongoing Crockett coffee. It's the never-ending ad is
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: what this is, this entire show. It's the coffee ads.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: If they put.
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: If they put something at the end of this show,
• 36:04
  Speaker 3: you know, in 20 years, hopefully when their shows, you know,
• 36:06
  Speaker 3: finally off air and they say they did a good job,
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: they did their best and boy, they took it to
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: the anti-coffee people every single day. They brought it to
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: them every single day.
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I'd be like, great.
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: If that's the, if that's the war we're going to fight,
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: then we're going to win that war.
• 36:22
  Speaker 1: No, there's like, they, they did their best and man,
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: did they, did they, did they acknowledge and, Did they
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: unveil that Tom Brady is a liar?
• 36:32
  Speaker 3: AY on the YouTube chat says, didn't drink any coffee
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: or any caffeine for five years. Coffee drinkers are the
• 36:40
  Speaker 3: only legitimate adults and they get things done. So he
• 36:43
  Speaker 3: went back to drinking coffee. Feslove says, I drink more
• 36:47
  Speaker 3: Diet Coke and I don't drink coffee, but I enjoy the.
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: Smell and taste. Feslove has absolutely tried coffee. My whole
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: thing is you have tried it in your life. It's
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: not about not drinking it. It's about having tried it ever.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: And Tom Brady claims he's never tried coffee. Not that
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: he doesn't drink it. I don't think he drinks it
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: right now. But he's tried it. That man has tried coffee.
• 37:10
  Speaker 3: My daughter is 11 and drinks coffee every morning.
• 37:13
  Speaker 1: So is this gentleman who's been married for 26 years
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: that has his wife taking up for him on social media.
• 37:18
  Speaker 2: I really don't want to break married couples up. That's
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: not the goal of this show.
• 37:22
  Speaker 3: But I would kind of find it a little bit
• 37:24
  Speaker 3: humorous if this started a big fight. Between husband and wife,
• 37:28
  Speaker 3: he's like, no, honey, actually, I've been drinking coffee every
• 37:30
  Speaker 3: day at work. I leave you and I drink coffee
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: once I get to the work. They've got great coffee there.
• 37:35
  Speaker 3: They've got a Crockett coffee subscription.
• 37:38
  Speaker 2: I love the mushroom blend.
• 37:40
  Speaker 3: That's my favorite. I've been drinking mushroom coffee for years now.
• 37:45
  Speaker 3: How dare you call someone a liar?
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 37:48
  Speaker 2: How dare you attack Tom Brady this way?
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: Oh, so good. Okay. So, Chad, we've got the Big
• 37:56
  Speaker 1: Ten that comes out and says, you know what, as
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: a conference, we're not going to be accepting NFL players
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: back into college football. I laugh because it sounds so stupid.
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: We're not going to accept NFL players back into college football. And, well,
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: that was just prior to the SEC going all in
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: against Lane Kiffin, something we didn't necessarily think we would see.
• 38:18
  Speaker 1: I will say, though, the Big Ten coming through, with
• 38:24
  Speaker 1: a door slammed, whereas I feel.
• 38:27
  Speaker 2: Like the SEC just shut the door. Big Ten's slamming
• 38:29
  Speaker 2: the door shut.
• 38:32
  Speaker 3: Well, so here's my thesis on this, okay? And we're
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: going to get into all facets of all of this.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: I'm very intrigued about finally Greg Sankey just stops talking
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: and started acting against Lane Kiffin because Lane Kiffin is
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: his nemesis. In terms of SEC coaches. So he's struck back.
• 38:52
  Speaker 3: The empire strikes back. And the empire is the SEC
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: right now. But Hutton, my argument is this. I don't
• 38:58
  Speaker 3: think the SEC does a damn thing if the Big
• 39:02
  Speaker 3: Ten doesn't come out so strong against this. Because the
• 39:05
  Speaker 3: first statement that we talked about yesterday, we showed that
• 39:08
  Speaker 3: statement yesterday. The statement from the SEC was essentially, we
• 39:12
  Speaker 3: hate it. It's against the rules. We don't like it.
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: But we need Congress to act. This is another example
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: of the Protect College Sports Act needing to be passed, right?
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: That was the SEC's initial statement.
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: Then while we're on air yesterday, we start to get
• 39:27
  Speaker 3: word from Pete Thamel and others reporting. the Big Ten
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: is about to release a statement and a rule saying
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: you are not welcome here.
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: If you signed an.
• 39:36
  Speaker 3: NFL contract or you were in a training camp, you
• 39:38
  Speaker 3: cannot come to the Big Ten. And what did I
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: say yesterday? This is a win for the Big Ten
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: in public perception. They look stronger and They look like
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: they have some balls on this. They're going to be
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: lauded by every college football media person. They're going to
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: be praised by everyone in the sport for doing.
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: The right thing.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: I think the SEC and Greg Sankey, they weren't going
• 39:59
  Speaker 3: to do a damn thing until that happened. And once
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: they saw the Big Ten getting all the love, and boy,
• 40:04
  Speaker 3: the Big Ten's got backbone. The Big Ten has this.
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: Sankey said, emergency meeting. Let's get all 16 presidents together,
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: and I'm going to lay out the reason why this
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: cannot happen. They said originally 14 or 15.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: Were all on board.
• 40:20
  Speaker 3: There was one holdout, and of course LSU was the
• 40:23
  Speaker 3: one wanting to allow it. And by the end of
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: that meeting, Greg Sankey rallied the troops. He united the
• 40:29
  Speaker 3: clans like William Wallace and Braveheart, and he got a
• 40:33
  Speaker 3: 16-0 vote against Lane Kiffin, and LSU and for the
• 40:38
  Speaker 3: SEC in a fight.
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: Against the Big Ten.
• 40:41
  Speaker 3: None of this happens if the Big Ten doesn't release
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: that statement and say it's not allowed here.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I truly believe that.
• 40:48
  Speaker 3: I think that they were waiting on somebody to blink,
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: and when they saw the Big Ten actually had bigger
• 40:52
  Speaker 3: balls than them, they decided, okay, we better do something now,
• 40:57
  Speaker 3: and we're going to stop it. And that's what they did. So, again,
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: I don't think– I'm going to give the SEC credit
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: for doing it regardless– But I think they only did
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: the right thing because the Big Ten did the right thing.
• 41:08
  Speaker 1: So how does LSU end up playing these guys? That
• 41:11
  Speaker 1: would be my next question.
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: Well, if they're going to just do a monetary fine,
• 41:17
  Speaker 3: I don't know what the penalties are. They haven't said
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: you're ineligible, you can't win an SEC title, you're disqualified
• 41:23
  Speaker 3: from the college football playoff.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: If any of those things happen, you're going to forfeit.
• 41:27
  Speaker 3: You can't play for an SEC title, you're not in contention,
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: or you can't play in the playoff.
• 41:32
  Speaker 1: Then they won't do it. They'd be stupid to try
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: to fight.
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: You don't want to get in a legal battle all
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: year in hopes that you get something in your favor
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: only to play a season. Let's say they go 12-0,
• 41:42
  Speaker 3: and then they find out the week of Atlanta, actually
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: the court said the SEC's right to do what they're doing.
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: That would be a problem for LSU. I don't think
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: they're going to do that. But here's the big disclaimer.
• 41:53
  Speaker 1: What if it's just a.
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Fine, and they have to pay the SEC something Does
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: the university actually do it?
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they play them. Remember Bobby Boucher?
• 42:03
  Speaker 2: What's money?
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: Remember their governor, Bobby Boucher?
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: Remember the guy, Jeff Landry or whatever, the guy that
• 42:08
  Speaker 3: sounds like Bobby Boucher, Adam Sandler and Waterboy? Remember all
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: the financial problems he had with them paying the buyout
• 42:16
  Speaker 3: to terrible Brian Kelly?
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: Those coaches' salaries. Those dudes are going to.
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: Sign off the moment they say, oh, $ 2 million?
• 42:24
  Speaker 3: Yes. To play these three players? Okay, yeah, we'll do that.
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: We'll do that for you, Coach Lane. Whatever you need, sir.
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: Whatever you need. It better not be a fine.
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: That's my point. No, it's got to be more than that.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: It's got to be a penalty with some teeth to it.
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: It's got to be more than that if Aaron Carter
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: is getting suspended for a game.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Totally agree.
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: You know? Stay tuned. More coming on this discussion. Plus,
• 42:46
  Speaker 1: just around the corner, we do have primary complaint. If
• 42:48
  Speaker 1: you're new to the show, we're going to give you
• 42:50
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• 42:52
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• 43:52
  Speaker 1: me ask you this. Do you think Ole Miss was
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: prepared to do exactly what LSU was doing had Kiffin
• 43:57
  Speaker 1: decided to stay? Because I don't want to hear a
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: damn thing from them if they were. Yeah, I mean, absolutely.
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: Now, I will give them– look, he left, so they
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: can say whatever they want about Lane Kiffin now.
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: Oh, but they were begging for him to stay. Yeah, right.
• 44:13
  Speaker 3: But, I mean, here's what I would say. Ole Miss aside,
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: like Ole Miss was the scorned lover here. So they
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: can say whatever– they're allowed to say whatever they want
• 44:21
  Speaker 3: about Lane Kiffin.
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: Whatever they want. Pete Golding wasn't trying to bring him on.
• 44:25
  Speaker 3: You know, like Lane Kiffin– I mean, Lane Kiffin lies
• 44:29
  Speaker 3: so much so easily. He's on McAfee yesterday. I'm watching
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: it after our show ends. And he says on there,
• 44:36
  Speaker 3: he's like, well, I know that– and he's just so
• 44:39
  Speaker 3: nonchalant about it. He's like, I know for a fact
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: that Ole Miss has been reaching out and they were
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: going to try to add some of these guys in this.
• 44:46
  Speaker 3: Just as plain as can be. And they come out
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: and they're like, no, it's not true. All the Ole
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: Miss reporters and everybody else in college was like, we've
• 44:54
  Speaker 3: reached out. And even the players said Ole Miss was
• 44:56
  Speaker 3: not trying to do anything. In fact, it was Lane
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: Kiffin and LSU staff members helping them facilitate the lawsuit
• 45:03
  Speaker 3: that started all of this to come back. So, look,
• 45:06
  Speaker 3: I don't want to hear from Lane Kiffin about it.
• 45:08
  Speaker 3: Here's what I would say. Anybody who employs Lane Kiffin
• 45:12
  Speaker 3: will talk themselves into trusting and believing Lane Kiffin.
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: Because he wins games.
• 45:18
  Speaker 3: So if you're any fan base, if this was Arkansas
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: or Vanderbilt or Tennessee who defended Lane Kiffin that every
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: turn when he was there in 2009 because it's your guy.
• 45:28
  Speaker 1: Then you're going to defend him. Well, he wins. He
• 45:31
  Speaker 1: wins enough games.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: This feels like Ole Miss fans defended Lane Kiffin no
• 45:35
  Speaker 3: matter what the whole time he was there until he left, right?
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's going to be the same way with LSU.
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: I would say Kiffin wins enough games. Now he's got
• 45:43
  Speaker 1: to win games at LSU, right? He's got to win
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: a national title.
• 45:48
  Speaker 2: That's right.
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: You can be 4-0 or 5-0 or whatever the record
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: was whenever we went. I call it going to church
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: down in Tuscaloosa, but we went to Bryant-Denny Stadium and
• 45:58
  Speaker 1: watched them get their asses kicked. I forgot what week
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: it was. It was the end of September. And, Chad,
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: it was Alabama, though, that they lost to. But Lane
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: Kiffin won games. Now he's got to win national championships.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: It's the only marker of success for this gig at
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: LSU with him. I mean, Les Miles won a natty there.
• 46:21
  Speaker 3: Ed Orgeron won a natty there. He's got to win
• 46:23
  Speaker 3: a national title, and he needs to do it quickly.
• 46:26
  Speaker 3: This is not a six-year build to.
• 46:29
  Speaker 2: A national title.
• 46:30
  Speaker 3: He needs to win a national title within the first
• 46:32
  Speaker 3: two or three seasons at LSU. If it's not this year,
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: then it's next year. Look, that's a big ask for
• 46:39
  Speaker 3: anyone taking over any program, even one.
• 46:41
  Speaker 4: As good as LSU.
• 46:42
  Speaker 3: But if you were going to do this, if your
• 46:45
  Speaker 3: whole thing is win at all costs, if you're going
• 46:47
  Speaker 3: to go to the lengths of contacting NFL players to
• 46:52
  Speaker 3: get them to petition a lawsuit, to get them eligible
• 46:55
  Speaker 3: to come back to play for you, and you're going
• 46:58
  Speaker 3: to look this bad in doing it, where the SEC
• 47:01
  Speaker 3: has to release this statement, which they did last night
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: on their new rule that they have for things like this,
• 47:09
  Speaker 3: Following meetings of the presidents, chancellors, and athletic directors at
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: the Southeastern Conference, the SEC will enforce the following policy.
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: An SEC institution is not permitted to have an athlete
• 47:18
  Speaker 3: on its roster who has, one, previously declared for the NFL, NBA,
• 47:23
  Speaker 3: or WNBA draft, sorry ladies, and did not appropriately withdraw, two,
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: signed a contract with an NFL or professional football league,
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: NBA G League, or WNBA or affiliated team, or three,
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: been listed on an NFL or other professional football league,
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: NBA G League or WNBA or affiliate roster. The commissioner
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: is authorized to enforce this expectation with penalties against member institutions.
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: Lane Kiffin did this. I don't want to put the
• 47:52
  Speaker 3: blame anywhere else right now based on the knowledge that
• 47:54
  Speaker 3: we have. This was Lane Kiffin's doing. No one else
• 47:58
  Speaker 3: has committed anywhere else. A former Notre Dame player that
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: was in the NFL has committed to LSU. Former Ole
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: Miss tight end and defensive lineman.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: These are facts.
• 48:08
  Speaker 3: Those three players are the only three that had accepted
• 48:10
  Speaker 3: papers and were going to go back to college.
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: They were all going to.
• 48:13
  Speaker 3: Play for LSU. Now, there's a mystery SEC school involved
• 48:18
  Speaker 3: with the running back, T.J. Harden, from the Seahawks. Now,
• 48:21
  Speaker 3: that mystery team, we don't know. And also, it's not
• 48:24
  Speaker 3: going to happen because of this ruling from Greg Sankey.
• 48:27
  Speaker 1: Right, right, right.
• 48:29
  Speaker 3: This was all Lane Kiffin's doing. If you're looking for
• 48:31
  Speaker 3: a boogeyman or a big bad guy, I mean, when
• 48:34
  Speaker 3: it comes to this story right now, he appears to
• 48:36
  Speaker 3: be it.
• 48:37
  Speaker 1: I love how there's a mystery team. I want to
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: know the team that didn't want to put their name
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: behind it whenever Kiffin was putting their name behind his. Please.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Mystery team. Let me also, yes.
• 48:50
  Speaker 3: I saw this a lot last night, and I understand
• 48:52
  Speaker 3: college football reporters are just doing their job.
• 48:55
  Speaker 1: I saw Trey Wallace do this. I saw Ross Dellinger.
• 48:58
  Speaker 5: Go on.
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: I saw other college football reporters. Go on.
• 49:02
  Speaker 3: I am so tired of hearing from these damn attorneys.
• 49:07
  Speaker 3: Ryan Downton, oh gosh, the other guy that just chimes
• 49:11
  Speaker 3: in on everything. You know how Jay Billis just plays
• 49:15
  Speaker 3: one note that the players are always right and the
• 49:18
  Speaker 3: NCAA is always wrong?
• 49:19
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes. boring. It could be anything.
• 49:22
  Speaker 3: It always just goes back to, well, the NCAA is
• 49:24
  Speaker 3: ridiculous and hypocritical.
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: I get it.
• 49:27
  Speaker 3: We all understand that, but there are also times where
• 49:30
  Speaker 3: the player can be blamed for something. There are times
• 49:33
  Speaker 3: where a player screws up or is doing the wrong thing, too.
• 49:36
  Speaker 3: We have to look at it. through both lenses at times.
• 49:39
  Speaker 3: And when you're constantly playing one note, it gets pretty old.
• 49:42
  Speaker 3: I get so tired of hearing these damn attorneys play
• 49:45
  Speaker 3: the one note of. Ryan Downton, who filed the lawsuit,
• 49:49
  Speaker 3: says he's going to, we're going to challenge them.
• 49:50
  Speaker 1: They're in contempt of court, the SEC. No, they're not.
• 49:53
  Speaker 2: No, they're not.
• 49:55
  Speaker 3: A thousand other attorneys, the head of the University of
• 49:58
  Speaker 3: Tennessee Law School, I saw reposted and says, this is
• 50:02
  Speaker 3: what happens when you take legal advice from Lane Kiffin.
• 50:06
  Speaker 3: There is nothing in this injunction or this TRO stating
• 50:10
  Speaker 3: that individual conferences or leagues can have their own rules.
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: All it states is that the NCAA cannot rule them ineligible.
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: So the NCAA can say you're eligible, but if no
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: conference allows it, you can't play.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: And hey, man, that's tough cookies. Sorry, Ryan Dowd and
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: everyone else.
• 50:29
  Speaker 3: You can sit there and bitch and moan all you
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: want and file as many cases as you want that
• 50:33
  Speaker 3: ties up our legal system even more. We can't even
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: try murder quickly in this country because of you. I
• 50:39
  Speaker 3: get so tired of hearing. Just stop giving them breath.
• 50:44
  Speaker 3: Let's make this right now. I don't care to have.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: They're the only ones that pick up the phone, Chad.
• 50:49
  Speaker 3: In stories like this, I don't care to have these
• 50:52
  Speaker 3: attorneys because I know exactly what they're going to say.
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: There's going to be no nuance to it.
• 50:57
  Speaker 3: I understand they're paid to defend their clients, but you
• 50:59
  Speaker 3: should also say factually correct things. There is nothing preventing
• 51:03
  Speaker 3: the SEC and the Big Ten from doing this, as
• 51:05
  Speaker 3: far as I've seen. Now, there is something preventing the
• 51:08
  Speaker 3: NCAA from doing it. It doesn't say they have to
• 51:11
  Speaker 3: play for this team. It's saying they have to be
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: eligible by NCAA rules. That's what the TRO states. Not
• 51:19
  Speaker 3: that the SEC or the Big Ten has to admit them. Hey, man,
• 51:22
  Speaker 3: have fun going and playing at San Jose State.
• 51:25
  Speaker 1: If they allow it. Let's see how much money you
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: can get from them.
• 51:29
  Speaker 3: I mean, the perfect ending to all this is that
• 51:32
  Speaker 3: Ryan Downton and whatever attorneys represent these dudes, and these
• 51:35
  Speaker 3: dudes who are begging to get cut from their NFL roster,
• 51:39
  Speaker 3: the perfect ending is that they all have to go
• 51:41
  Speaker 3: play at Idaho, and they make about $ 20, 000 a year.
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: They're going to go play at the barn. Right. The
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: big dome. The small dome. Enjoy your coupons you're going
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: to get.
• 51:54
  Speaker 3: You can go play at Central Michigan, and we'll give
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: you a bunch of Starbucks gift cards to go play there.
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: That's how this story should end. And there it is
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: going back to coffee right there. It all goes back.
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: Why did I say Starbucks? I meant Crockett Coffee.
• 52:11
  Speaker 3: DCA, by the way, as I limp rest this thing
• 52:13
  Speaker 3: again to show you DCA. It goes back to Crockett.
• 52:17
  Speaker 3: They're going to get free Crockett subscriptions. That's what's going
• 52:20
  Speaker 3: to happen. That should be Clay's consolation prize, these dudes,
• 52:23
  Speaker 3: when they can't play in the SEC or Big Ten
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: and they can't make any money.
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely it should. It should be the consolation. Chad,
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: we should let people know, now that it's just past
• 52:36
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• 52:40
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• 52:44
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• 52:47
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• 52:49
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• 52:52
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• 52:56
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• 52:59
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• 53:02
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• 53:03
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• 53:04
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• 53:06
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• 53:15
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• 53:16
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• 53:24
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• 53:27
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• 53:29
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  Speaker 1: We also have nine spots available in our Fantasy Football League.
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• 54:31
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• 54:38
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• 54:43
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• 54:47
  Speaker 3: The faces behind it. Dick West.
• 54:51
  Speaker 1: Richard G. West.
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Richard G.
• 54:53
  Speaker 1: West. If we can expose Richard G.
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: West in Knoxville who has all the fake Tennessee dudes, which,
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: by the way, he immediately had a Dolly Parton sticker.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: that the Tennessee team's going to wear all year, that
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: everyone's running with, saying, boy, I hope this is real.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm like, that's Richard G. West.
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Definitely not real. We need all the fake accounts to
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: join us. Also, Brooks has just sent us the updated
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: Mount Rushmore of greatest Tennesseans. And I will say, and
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: by the way, we can keep this. I'm not complaining.
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Elvis Presley looks like a woman, though, in this photo.
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, it kind of looks like Elvis Presley, though.
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: He definitely had hair like that.
• 55:24
  Speaker 2: I think Elvis Presley looks like a woman.
• 55:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean, that looks like Elvis Presley to me.
• 55:30
  Speaker 3: So then you're saying Elvis Presley looks like a woman.
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: It looks like a Golden Girls hairdo.
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: It's a nice poof, for sure.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: Pat Summitt, I don't know. Pat Summitt looks a little
• 55:41
  Speaker 1: AI to me. I think it looks good. I'm good
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: with it. I think it looks good. The only person
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: that looks identical is.
• 55:50
  Speaker 3: I don't know why you're hating on our guy Brooks
• 55:51
  Speaker 3: so much over there.
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: I'm not hating on Brooks. I think it looks good.
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: I'd say we're keeping it. I was just saying, I
• 55:57
  Speaker 1: think it looks like a... I was like, oh, who
• 56:00
  Speaker 1: is this older woman with a short haircut? Oh, that's
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: Elvis Presley. I mean, Elvis, though, is a very effeminate-looking man.
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: Let's be honest. Like, baby face, kind of girlish, pretty features.
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: He was sort of known for that.
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: He's not the most masculine-looking dude. He's not saying that
• 56:18
  Speaker 3: he wasn't masculine. I'm just saying, face-wise, he wasn't the
• 56:21
  Speaker 3: most masculine-looking guy.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: He doesn't look like Dave Grohl. It's a.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: Little different than that. Chad, you, you have been to
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: Mount Rushmore.
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: I have indeed. You, uh, you, you swear by it.
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: You say everyone should go at least one time.
• 56:39
  Speaker 2: It's very difficult to get to Mount Rushmore.
• 56:41
  Speaker 3: Uh, it's not, there's not a huge airport close by,
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: you know, you can fly into rapid city.
• 56:45
  Speaker 1: I don't know how big, how many flights get.
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: There daily, but, um, we drove from, uh, my in-laws
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: farm in Northeast Nebraska, uh, and went northwest about a
• 56:55
  Speaker 3: six-hour drive to go up to the Black Hills of
• 56:58
  Speaker 3: South Dakota to go to Mount Rushmore.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Very cool to see.
• 57:01
  Speaker 3: They've got like a theater there you can go and
• 57:03
  Speaker 3: every 20 minutes they have a documentary on the story
• 57:06
  Speaker 3: of Mount Rushmore.
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: And the making of it.
• 57:09
  Speaker 3: It's a very cool experience and it's a beautiful part
• 57:12
  Speaker 3: of the country if you ever get to go to
• 57:14
  Speaker 3: the Black Hills.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: And the mountains around Mount Rushmore. Very, very neat. The
• 57:18
  Speaker 1: Black Hills. Lakes all around it.
• 57:19
  Speaker 3: Just random bodies of water around the mountains.
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: It's really cool. But the Black Hills doesn't sound like
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: a place I want to visit, though. Hey, you want
• 57:27
  Speaker 1: to go to the Black Hills?
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: No. No. It sounds like terror to me. And to
• 57:32
  Speaker 3: get there, you go through the Badlands. So you literally
• 57:36
  Speaker 3: go through the Badlands... which I went to the Badlands
• 57:39
  Speaker 3: National Park and took some pictures, which is, I mean,
• 57:41
  Speaker 3: it looks like.
• 57:41
  Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure it's beautiful, but I'm not trying to
• 57:43
  Speaker 1: knock it. Well, I don't know. I mean, it's cool.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: Again, it looks like a different planet when you're in
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: the Badlands, and then you go up to... There's not
• 57:51
  Speaker 3: a lot going on in South Dakota. Let's just put
• 57:53
  Speaker 3: it that way. There's a lot of available real estate
• 57:56
  Speaker 3: if people want it. Cool state to drive across, but
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: very flat in the east, and then you get into
• 58:02
  Speaker 3: the Badlands, the middle of the state, then you get
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: up into the mountains, the Black Hills.
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: in the.
• 58:06
  Speaker 3: Western portion of the state, but yeah, not a lot
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: going on. So who decided that this is where it
• 58:11
  Speaker 3: needed to be, the Mount Rushmore?
• 58:14
  Speaker 2: I've learned this in the documentary, actually.
• 58:17
  Speaker 3: The state of South Dakota, coming off the Great Depression,
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: they had tons of, just like a lot of states,
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: had a lot of financial issues. And they were looking
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: for tourism dollars. So they just started scouting land. There's
• 58:30
  Speaker 3: a whole history, too, with Native American tribes and that
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: mountain being sacred. they carved it out of. So like
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: when you're there, it's pretty cool. They have members of
• 58:39
  Speaker 3: the local tribe. I think it's the Lakotas, but they
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: have members of the local tribe that will like give
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: you a tour and tell you about the native history
• 58:46
  Speaker 3: of that land and how it's sacred and how now
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: they have a partnership, you know, with the, with the
• 58:51
  Speaker 3: U S government and with that. And they like people
• 58:54
  Speaker 3: going to experience the land that they find sacred and
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: everything else. But yeah, there was just, there's no one
• 59:00
  Speaker 3: in this part of the state.
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: Really?
• 59:02
  Speaker 3: Like we want to build up tourism. And when you
• 59:04
  Speaker 3: go up there, it's very Gatlinburg like, I mean, you're
• 59:08
  Speaker 3: going to have like towns with, you know, uh, helicopter
• 59:11
  Speaker 3: tours and zip lines and places for kids to go arcades,
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: you know, like there's a little part of the town that's,
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: that's sort of like that.
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: So it's, it's a neat experience.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: I think if you've got kids, especially take them up
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: there and see it. And it's, it's a cool thing
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: to say that, that you've seen at least once in
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: your life.
• 59:30
  Speaker 1: Hey, coming up, primary complaint. We air our top grievance
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: of the week. If you're new to the show, we
• 59:35
  Speaker 1: give you a great example of what to expect each
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: week straight ahead right here on Hutton and Withrow. Chad,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: there's a nice lady on social media that says, how
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: dare I call her husband a liar? How dare I
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: call her husband a liar? 26 years of marriage, he's
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: never had coffee. Ma'am, I'm here to tell you, that
• 59:55
  Speaker 1: gentleman has tried coffee. You know why?
• 59:57
  Speaker 2: Because there's Crockett coffee.
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: Crockett Coffee was started by Clay Travis, Buck Sexton, and
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: Buck's brother Mason, named after Davy Crockett. David Crockett, hunter, storyteller, patriot,
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: backwoods legend. Look at the logo, ma'am. Davy's surfing on
• 1:00:12
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• 1:00:14
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• 1:00:38
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• 1:00:40
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• 1:00:51
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• 1:01:11
  Speaker 3: Apologies to Davy Crockett and Davy Crockett's remaining relatives that
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: we have now removed Davy Crockett from the Mount Rushmore
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 3: of the state of Tennessee in our latest graphic, which
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 3: you can see it has been replaced by Elvis and
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 3: Pat Summitt, out go General Nealon, and out go Davy Crockett.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 3: So I said, look, we fixed it based on a
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: lot of complaints, which is a perfect segue into primary
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 3: complaint today. So we'll let people, you know, we'll see
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 3: how many likes this gets or how many people get
• 1:01:40
  Speaker 3: pissed off that, Alvin C. York isn't there or whatever.
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 1: James K.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 3: Polk was another one that people wanted on the Mount Rushmore.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: We'll see how this one goes over.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: James K.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 3: Polk.
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: The president. Oh, I know former president, but I mean,
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: just because he's a former president, what about.
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 2: Andrew Johnson? What about Andrew Johnson?
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Nobody's fighting for Andrew Johnson, one of the worst presidents
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: in the history of, maybe the worst president in the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: history of our country.
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 1: We should put on a fake We should put on
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 1: a fake version. Like, here we go. Here's the final version.
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 2: And just have Andrew Johnson, James K.
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 6: Bolt.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 2: The final version is just 3-6 Mafia. Yes. Yes. Yes.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 1: And Elvis. Just see what people think. They're like, what?
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 5: And Elvis.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Haystack.
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: Just Tennessee-based rappers. Or we should do one of just
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 3: foreigners that moved here. I actually put Nicole Kidman and
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 3: Keith Urban on the Mount Rushmore. Mount Rushmore of Tennessee
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 3: and two Australians will be the first two on the list.
• 1:02:43
  Speaker 1: Remember all the fake during COVID? We had all the
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: fake news reports of DiCaprio buying.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 3: Up land in Smyrna. I helped Robert Downey Jr. change
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: a tire in Laverne. Those types of Facebook posts.
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah. They're still out there, I think. They still
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: get people.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 3: My 82-year-old father has probably been fooled by one of those. Hey,
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 3: did you see that Matt Damon was in Watertown last
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 3: week at the drive-in?
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 1: No, I don't think.
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: Odysseus was checking out one of the drive-ins in Watertown.
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 1: Sorry. The star of the Odyssey. So, for those familiar
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: with the show, this needs no introduction, but if you're
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: just joining us here on Hunting with Roe, Over the years,
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 1: we have had a weekly segment called Primary Complaint, where
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 1: we get pissed off for greatness. And what this is,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: you are allowed, you are given the floor, you can
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 1: air your top grievance of the week. So myself, Chad, JT,
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: we will give ours each and every week. We try
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: not to repeat the same complaint twice. That's our rule.
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 1: But we don't complain about others' complaints. You have the
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 1: floor to air your top grievance of the week in
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 1: Primary Complaint. And guys, my primary complaint this week, So, Chad,
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 1: you and I are calling some football games, right? Mm-hmm.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's difficult to find the rosters of these teams.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: And there is a TSSAA website, TSSAA Sports, where you
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: can go. And on the website, you have every team
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 1: listed that participated in high school football. Well, you would
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: think that when you click on roster that every team
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: every program would turn in the same information. That's not
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: the case. In fact, some of these just have names listed,
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: last name, comma, first name, as if it's a tryout list.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 1: That does me no good. I need the number, the name, classification,
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 1: and give me the height and weight if you have that.
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: If not, at least give me the number and the
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: corresponding name that goes with the number. That should be
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: on a mandatory list of every program. that plays high
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: school football across this great state of Tennessee. That's my
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: primary complaint.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 3: In the bare minimum, Hutton, of what we would need,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 3: what anyone would need for any possible job.
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 2: Of calling a game, watching a game, anything.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 1: Two things, right?
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 2: A number and a corresponding name. To that number are
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 2: the two things.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 3: If you omit one or the other, if it's just
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 3: a list of numbers, one through 99, or a list
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 3: of names with no number, that helps absolutely no one.
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 3: And if I'm going to the site, the authority, the
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 3: authority that keeps the record here of all the high
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 3: school programs across the state, and even that site doesn't
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 3: have the number corresponding to the last name, what are
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 3: we doing here? That should be a mandatory, yes, in
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 3: order to participate, you turn in a roster. Yes, they
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 3: have to have a jersey. Tell me the number that
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: goes with the last name, please.
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 3: So I'm the official scorekeeper for my daughter's, my seven-year-old
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 3: daughter's softball games now. So I keep the book during
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 3: the game. So I have to go over to the
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: other coach before the game and get their roster, you know,
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 3: the little kids in their batting lap so I can.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: Put it in the book.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 3: I'm going to give some grace because it's the first
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 3: game of the year and they just handed out jerseys
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 3: that night.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: Like New Jersey's.
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 3: But I walk over and I go, okay, yeah, here.
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 3: I thought, man, this guy's prepared, ready. Oh, yeah, here's
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 3: our roster. It gives me the little paper roster sheet.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 3: And I'm going over to start to put them down.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 3: I look down on the roster. Hutton, it's just a
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 3: list of names, 1 through 12.
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: Names, no numbers. With no numbers.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: I go back.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, I'm going to need some numbers. So
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 3: I had an assistant coach stand with me, and he's like, Evelyn,
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: turn around.
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: Evelyn, what's your number? And I'm like, he were having
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: to get– because they just put them on. So I
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: get it.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 2: And they're like, what number are you? The little girl's like, huh?
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 3: Number?
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm seven years old. You know, they're
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: just giving their age back and like, turn around.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: And then, you know, what's your, what's your numbers? They're
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: shouting their social security number back at us. One little
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 3: girl gave me her credit score, which was weird that
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: she already had one, but no one had a number.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: It's 700.
• 1:06:57
  Speaker 1: It's infuriating.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 3: By the way, we will be at green Hill at
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 3: page in the mid state on Friday night. So looking
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 3: forward to that big game coming up Friday night. My
• 1:07:06
  Speaker 3: primary complaint this week, and by the way, we're getting
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 3: some good ones coming in on YouTube. So keep hitting
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 3: us up there. It's an ESPN related primary complaint.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: All right. Now we worked for Fox at one point. Okay.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 3: And anytime we went on a Fox station could be,
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 3: you know, Fox news, Fox weather, whatever it may be.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 3: I give them a lot of credit because they had
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 3: standards for like your presentation and your setup, like where
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: were you? You know, an example, one time I was
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 3: coaching a softball tournament and I'm like, hey, I could
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 3: do it, but I'd have to leave the, and I
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: was willing to do it, but I'll have to leave
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 3: a game, go into my truck and do it on
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 3: my phone. They're like, no, we'll find someone else. I said,
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: call my buddy, Jonathan Hutton. So then Jonathan Hutton could
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: do it from his home studio and it looks a
• 1:07:53
  Speaker 3: million times better doing that.
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: Totally understand that type of decision, right? For a company. Sure.
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: I've got ESPN on to the right of me every day.
• 1:08:01
  Speaker 3: On this nice television in my home studio, the amount
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: of people that go on major ESPN shows and they
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: take no care into how they appear or where they
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 3: are when they do it, you've got a million different
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: contributors at ESPN. Go to the next person who's either
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: at home or in an office or can get somewhere
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 3: with a good signal and a good quality sound and
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 3: everything else. It's like they're now taking a lot of
• 1:08:31
  Speaker 3: joy and having the weirdest. Monica McNutt did one while
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 3: getting her nails done the other day. She's on SportsCenter
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 3: doing that. I'm watching Pete Thamel yesterday, sweaty, hat turned around.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: He's up against a.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 3: Brick wall, clearly just gone for a workout. He's got
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 3: his earpiece in. He's holding up his cell phone on
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 3: Pat McAfee's show. I mean, look, I'm not some hoity-toity,
• 1:08:56
  Speaker 3: be a professional at all times. Like, you should be loose.
• 1:08:59
  Speaker 3: You should feel free. It should be fun.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 1: This is sports. All of those things.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 3: But my God, have a little respect. for your medium. Like,
• 1:09:08
  Speaker 3: you're on television. You're on ESPN. It's a pretty big deal. Like,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 3: I don't think that it's funny that let's just, let's go, hey,
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 3: you know, we really need to get Monica McNutt's thoughts
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 3: on this WNBA trade. So I don't care if she's
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: getting her nails done right now. Let's go live to her.
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: Go to the next person. Whoever the next person, give
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: someone else an opportunity to go on there that's at
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 3: their home studio or that's in a better spot to
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 3: do a hit.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: That's my primary complaint. Yeah, well said, Chad. I agree
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 1: with you.
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 2: JT.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 4: Guys, I would love to hear a real good excuse
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 4: for this one, but I don't think there is one.
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 5: I live in Rutherford County in Murfreesboro.
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 4: As I look outside my window, the sun is shining,
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 4: and it's a really straight road, about a mile, real
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 4: close to Segal High School. And my part of this
• 1:10:03
  Speaker 4: neighborhood actually has an HOA. If you're going down towards Segal,
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 4: there's not one. But guess what there is on both
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 4: sides of the road? A nice walkway. A nice spot
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 4: that you can take a walk or maybe a jog.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 4: Both sides of the road have got a sidewalk. However,
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 4: every single day, there appears to be men and women
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 4: who decide to run or walk in the road.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: Why?
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: Both sides of the road have a sidewalk.
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 4: You can go north or south, but instead you go
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 4: north or south in the middle of my damn road.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 4: Please explain to me why that concrete is better than
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 4: my sidewalk.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 5: That's my primary complaint.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, why is that? Why do we think people do this?
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 3: You live around a bunch of weirdos, JT. I've never
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: seen people even do this. We've got sidewalks in our
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 3: neighborhood and people are always on the sidewalk walking or running,
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 3: never in the road.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 2: That's crazy talk.
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 5: I've started taking videos. I can send you guys videos.
• 1:11:03
  Speaker 1: What do you say in the road? Is this like
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 1: the neighborhood road or is this the road, like the
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 1: main road?
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: No, no.
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 5: This is a main road.
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 4: If you pull out of my house, you will be
• 1:11:12
  Speaker 4: at single high school in about 30 seconds.
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 5: So a lot of traffic.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: Wow. That's nuts. These people should be arrested, JT.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 5: But I promise.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 2: You, I'm not alone.
• 1:11:25
  Speaker 4: We'll see some stuff in the chat. There's a lot
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 4: of people that run or walk when there are sidewalks
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 4: in the road. JT is the Batman of the Seagull
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 4: area right now. He's going to start citizens arresting people
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 4: left and right, which he should.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 1: It's got to be more than just like there's more
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: room for me to run. I don't get that. If
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 1: I'm riding a bike, it's different than running in the
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: middle of the road.
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, this is running and walking. I shouldn't say in
• 1:11:54
  Speaker 5: the middle of the road. They're on the side of
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 5: the road.
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: They're on the side of the road, but you have
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: to physically go around them.
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 5: But they're in the road.
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that makes no sense. Chad's right.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: You live around some weird people.
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 3: CJ on the YouTube chat says, Murfreesboro people are built different.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: I concur with JT. These folks are stupid. Talking about
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 3: the people running in his neighborhood. So JT getting someone
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 3: backing him up there. David says, my primary complaint are
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 3: people who claim people not born in your state. So
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: that was a shot at the initial Mount Rushmore.
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 2: So, all right.
• 1:12:28
  Speaker 1: Touche, David. Touche.
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 2: Has everyone, well, no, he's mad at Elvis.
• 1:12:33
  Speaker 3: He agreed that Elvis shouldn't be on because Elvis is
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 3: from Tupelo, Mississippi, originally. So I think he's mad that
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: I changed it over. But now Andrew Jackson's not born
• 1:12:42
  Speaker 3: in Tennessee. He was born in what is now South Carolina.
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: I think it was all North Carolina. Oh, is that right?
• 1:12:48
  Speaker 2: I didn't know that. Or the Carolinas or whatever it was.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: He's got to go.
• 1:12:51
  Speaker 2: But he moved over, so we claim him. We claim
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 2: him here.
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 1: I didn't know that, let's see, that Davy Crockett didn't
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: want to claim Tennessee at the end of his life.
• 1:13:04
  Speaker 1: I learned that today.
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, people are mad about that.
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: But, hey, guess what?
• 1:13:08
  Speaker 3: For the people mad about that, we changed it for you.
• 1:13:10
  Speaker 3: We gave you a different one. We're like the world
• 1:13:12
  Speaker 3: right now. We're just going to continue spinning different truths
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 3: and until we get the one that everybody likes. I'm
• 1:13:18
  Speaker 3: going to give you the Mount Rushmore that you like.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 3: It's all tailored to whatever you want. So if you
• 1:13:23
  Speaker 3: have a problem with the first one, we can just
• 1:13:25
  Speaker 3: keep changing it. Tomorrow we'll do a different Mount Rushmore,
• 1:13:28
  Speaker 3: and we'll hit all the people that are pitching to
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 3: us about whatever we put on this one, and then
• 1:13:32
  Speaker 3: we'll continue to change it over and over. That's the
• 1:13:34
  Speaker 3: world we live in now. Something for everyone. We've got
• 1:13:37
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  Speaker 3: I don't know why I just thought about this, but
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 3: funniest show, one of the funniest ones I've seen in
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 3: a while, Tires on Netflix. I think it's just Shane Gillis'
• 1:15:02
  Speaker 3: brand of comedy and what we're talking about with the
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 3: Nashville Balls made me think about it. But that is
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 3: the best example of a show I can think of
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 3: that started out funny, but very niche for those that
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 3: watched it.
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 1: It was only six episodes.
• 1:15:18
  Speaker 3: It was clearly done by just a group of buddies
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 3: that that basically put together a bunch of short sketches
• 1:15:23
  Speaker 3: at a tire shop that they worked at and then
• 1:15:25
  Speaker 3: put a show together. And by season two, they hire
• 1:15:30
  Speaker 3: Thomas Hayden Church to be Shane Gillis' dad, who was
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 3: Lowell on Wings back in the day, famous actor, who's
• 1:15:36
  Speaker 3: terrific on it. And they start to fill out the cast.
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 3: And by this latest season three, it's one of my
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 3: favorite workplace.
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 2: It's The Office all over again, just in a different tone.
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 2: It is awesome.
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: Like it is an amazing workplace.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 3: Think of Parks and Rec, The Office, just in Shane
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 3: Gillis and his buddy's tone. And they clearly get to
• 1:15:57
  Speaker 3: do whatever they want. It's total freedom that Netflix has
• 1:16:00
  Speaker 3: given them. And it is hilarious. There's the third episode
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 3: of season three. And if you just want to watch
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 3: just a funny, you don't have to know anything about
• 1:16:07
  Speaker 3: the show, but it's the nerdy guy who owns the
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 3: tire shop goes to the women in business dinner and
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 3: because he claims that there's a female co-owner that's one
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 3: of his employees that he brings to it. And what
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 3: all happens at the women's dinner is remarkable. Tires on
• 1:16:23
  Speaker 3: Netflix is great.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: We're going to get to another show that we're going
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: to watch in a moment. This makes me want to
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: just continue to binge the show. I've only seen two
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 1: episodes of Tires. It's hilarious. It is hilarious.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 3: You can watch it in an afternoon. They're like 21-minute long.
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I was going to say, the 30-minute show,
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: it's perfect. And I was also going to add in,
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 1: because it ties in perfectly here with a shout out
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 1: to Coach Mack, Dave McGinnis, because whenever I hear of tires,
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: I think of you. I remember coming downstairs in Florida,
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 1: coming down the steps, and you and Coach Mack are
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 1: watching tires while we have one of our buddies on
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: a screen with the Pentagon. Good old Milt.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 2: Good old Milt was doing his government work at the time.
• 1:17:08
  Speaker 3: But you were binging the entire first season, I think. I, too,
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 3: think of Coach Mack every time I think about that show.
• 1:17:15
  Speaker 3: I mean, because I watched the first season with him
• 1:17:18
  Speaker 3: in that condo, and it was hilarious.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: His reaction to a few of those things, like, look
• 1:17:24
  Speaker 1: at this guy. Look at this guy. Look at this guy.
• 1:17:26
  Speaker 3: He is just cracking up watching that show. I hope
• 1:17:30
  Speaker 3: Tires goes on forever because I want to keep watching
• 1:17:32
  Speaker 3: and thinking about our good buddy Coach Matt.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, man. Every time I see the show. It's good
• 1:17:35
  Speaker 1: to know that it's now expanded to where it's like
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 1: today's version of The Office, which is awesome. It is great.
• 1:17:43
  Speaker 3: I listen to a podcast that is very entertainment-centric, and
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 3: I love the guys in the podcast. They're also incredibly liberal,
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 3: living in L.A. The one guy on the show won't
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 3: watch Taylor Sheridan shows. Or just he makes fun of
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 3: them because he thinks that Taylor Sheridan is a big
• 1:18:01
  Speaker 3: Trump guy. So he won't watch. That's like how political
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: they are. Now, they're very good about talking about shows.
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 3: And they talk about shows that I watch. So I
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 3: listen because they're very good at it. But even these
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 3: guys who hated Shane Gillis, who he even admits like
• 1:18:16
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't give the show a chance because of where
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 3: I'm aligned politically. And I felt like Gillis was on
• 1:18:22
  Speaker 3: the other side. So I wouldn't do it. And he said,
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 3: I just finished the third season. It's one of the
• 1:18:27
  Speaker 3: best comedies. It's probably the best comedy right now. And
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 3: he said they are so in their groove and their
• 1:18:33
  Speaker 3: sweet spot of creating things and.
• 1:18:35
  Speaker 1: The jokes are so good.
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 3: And the dude who would never be given a shot
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 3: to be on a show ever if he wasn't a
• 1:18:42
  Speaker 3: comedy writer with Shane Gillis and the guy who's the
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 3: lead of the show with Gillis is so good in
• 1:18:47
  Speaker 3: his part. It's like a Michael Scott type guy but
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 3: yet he's not it's I it's hard to explain Hutton
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 3: I'm telling you tires on Netflix it makes sense yeah
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 3: I am recommending that I don't give recommend recommendations out
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 3: lightly I'm giving a hard recommendation If you are a
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 3: fan of comedy, watch Tire. Start from the beginning, but
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 3: know that you're going to laugh in the first season.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 3: It's only six episodes. By season two, it's really good,
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 3: 12 episodes. By season three, it is great, and by
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 3: the final episode, you're trying to go to next episode
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 3: to continue watching, and you know that it's not out yet,
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 3: but they are churning these things out quick.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 2: They'll be back every year with 12 new episodes.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 4: Okay, yeah.
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 2: It's really, really well done.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Tires on Netflix. We have Tires. So I think you
• 1:19:33
  Speaker 1: should leave. We highly recommend that one. What are some
• 1:19:36
  Speaker 1: other ones that would define our binge worthiness? The Chair Company.
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 1: The Chair Company. Thank you.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 3: Is a great one in terms of comedy right now.
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not thinking of a lot of great comedy.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 1: The Chair Company is coming back, right? It is coming back.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 1:19:52
  Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 5: It's back.
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 1: Good. Oh, it's back? It's back.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: Already?
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 1: It's not back.
• 1:19:56
  Speaker 3: It's coming back. I'm saying they're going to make.
• 1:19:58
  Speaker 2: It another season.
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 1: Gotcha. Okay. Yeah. It's back.
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 3: You see that guy over there? You go let him
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 3: know I'm back. You let them know I'm back. I
• 1:20:07
  Speaker 3: got a depth chart also. We're going to do one
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 3: a week. I will have a column that I'll post
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: at Sport and State today that can serve, if we want,
• 1:20:16
  Speaker 3: tomorrow as our deep discussion on a depth chart. It's
• 1:20:20
  Speaker 3: a five. It's a five-person list. I don't want to
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 3: completely spoil it. It is movie related. And I think
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 3: like our Mount Rushmore discussion is going to get us
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 3: talking and it's going to get people very angry with us.
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 1: Do you want to promote the premise of it for
• 1:20:36
  Speaker 1: your column later without giving away the names?
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 2: So what I did, I.
• 1:20:41
  Speaker 3: Mean, I can talk about it because it's going to
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: post at some point. It may already be posted, but
• 1:20:44
  Speaker 3: some point this morning.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, look.
• 1:20:46
  Speaker 3: We love Tom Cruise on this show. We are unabashed
• 1:20:49
  Speaker 3: Tom Cruise fans. The dude's a complete maniac and weirdo,
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 3: but I love him to death. He is 100% into
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 3: everything he does. He loves it. He's passionate about movies.
• 1:20:59
  Speaker 3: He's passionate about entertaining people. We love Tom Cruise for
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 3: that reason. Who's the next Tom Cruise? Because if you
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: look at his contemporaries, those guys, and they're younger, but
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 3: those guys are getting older. Leonardo DiCaprio, Matt Damon, Denzel Washington,
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 3: Brad Pitt, they're all over 50. Pitt's over 60. And
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 3: Denzel's 71 years old. So he's older than Tom Cruise even.
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 3: So who is the under 40 American actor? Not a Brit,
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: not Tom Holland, not Cillian Murphy, some great British and
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 3: international actors, not an Australian, American-born actors that could replace
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 3: Tom Cruise. I've got a top five.
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 1: Oh, that's good. And I give reasons for each.
• 1:21:46
  Speaker 3: I even compare a couple to current NFL quarterbacks.
• 1:21:49
  Speaker 2: And how I see their career trajectory going.
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 3: So we'll get into that and we'll, uh, we'll go
• 1:21:54
  Speaker 3: through the rate, the rankings tomorrow and we'll get some
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 3: submissions from our audience as well, where you can chime
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 3: in on YouTube at all, at all times with the chat.
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 2: And again, we're back on podcast.
• 1:22:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. Uh, Chad, the Vince Young, we're going to
• 1:22:11
  Speaker 1: discuss Vince Young's documentary. Tell me, tell me what you've
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 1: seen and what I need to watch.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Um, It's really good. I think, Hutton, for.
• 1:22:24
  Speaker 3: The casual fan that wasn't attached to the Titans organization
• 1:22:28
  Speaker 3: during that time, it's going to be revealing in a
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 3: lot of ways. I think for people like us, especially
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 3: you that were around it at the time, there's not
• 1:22:36
  Speaker 3: a lot of big surprises. But you can feel the
• 1:22:39
  Speaker 3: surprise from the audience that's seeing some things for the
• 1:22:41
  Speaker 3: first time that Jeff Fisher is talking about. An example,
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 3: Jeff Fisher says when he missed the plane– He says,
• 1:22:51
  Speaker 3: Vince Young was mad and angry and comes up to
• 1:22:54
  Speaker 3: me and he says, you see this plane? There's not
• 1:22:57
  Speaker 3: an effing Longhorn painted on it. You're in the NFL now.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 3: Plane leaves this time. So if you're not here, we're
• 1:23:02
  Speaker 3: leaving without you.
• 1:23:04
  Speaker 1: And that's it.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 3: And he, I mean, Fisher says it very plainly in that.
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 3: And Fisher, they talk about the letter that Vince Young
• 1:23:11
  Speaker 3: wrote him. And I know Jeff Fisher's talked about this
• 1:23:13
  Speaker 3: with us too, but the director of the documentary says,
• 1:23:16
  Speaker 3: why didn't you write him back? And he says, well,
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 3: First off, my name is misspelled in the letter, is
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 3: what Fisher says. And he said, in hindsight, should I have...
• 1:23:30
  Speaker 3: And this is a variant of the documentary. How do
• 1:23:31
  Speaker 3: you misspell his name? Instead of J-E-F-F, it's G-E-O-F-F? Maybe
• 1:23:38
  Speaker 3: he spelled Fisher wrong. Maybe he spelled coach wrong. I'll
• 1:23:43
  Speaker 3: also point out that Matt Brown says that....
• 1:23:47
  Speaker 1: I try not to make light of illiteracy on this show.
• 1:23:51
  Speaker 3: But Mack Brown says that Vince Young had a 3.5
• 1:23:53
  Speaker 3: GPA in high school.
• 1:23:55
  Speaker 1: No, Mack Brown's a liar. Well, he puts it on
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 1: the screen, 3.5 GPA. He said, you know, he was
• 1:24:00
  Speaker 1: a great kid. He was smart, this and that.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 2: I'm like, 3.5?
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 1: Okay.
• 1:24:06
  Speaker 2: Chad, I'll tell the story. Misspelled Jeff Fisher? Also a
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 2: 3.5 GPA?
• 1:24:10
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:24:12
  Speaker 1: I recorded, and this is, once I watch this, I'll
• 1:24:16
  Speaker 1: have more stories like this. But I recorded a Subway
• 1:24:19
  Speaker 1: ad with Vince Young and his buddy Mike Moo. All right?
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 1: It was just the three of us. Mike Moo's all
• 1:24:24
  Speaker 1: over the documentary, by the way. I'm sure he is,
• 1:24:26
  Speaker 1: pushing strollers. But yeah, Mike Moo, who's like a personal
• 1:24:30
  Speaker 1: assistant for Vince Young. For Titans Radio, I had to
• 1:24:34
  Speaker 1: go record a Subway ad for Vince. It was just
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 1: audio only. Dude could not read. And I'm not doing
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 1: that to make fun of the guy. When Chad says illiterate,
• 1:24:45
  Speaker 1: it's sad. So when I hear a coach say he
• 1:24:48
  Speaker 1: has a 3.5 GPA, I'm calling BS. Because the Subway
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 1: ad didn't get used because the guy couldn't read a sentence.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: And that's the truth. That's the sad reality of it.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 3: Well, I mean, he couldn't spell Jeff Fisher. How would
• 1:25:01
  Speaker 3: you spell Jeff Fisher?
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 2: I don't know how you mess it up.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 1: G-E-O-F-F?
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: And I would have liked for Jeff Fisher to respond
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 3: to the letter that he took time to write, and
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 3: it was heartfelt and it was an apology, is what
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 3: Vince Young says. And Fisher says, yeah, I got it.
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 3: And he says, you know, I probably should have responded
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 3: and given him some crap about misspelling my name, but
• 1:25:22
  Speaker 3: he kind of leaves it at that. But, I mean, look,
• 1:25:25
  Speaker 3: it's also very easy to see why Jeff Fisher doesn't
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: like Vince Young.
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 1: Sure.
• 1:25:33
  Speaker 3: I don't think– the documentary doesn't hide that. Now, it's
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: told from Vince Young. It's called The Testimony of Vince
• 1:25:39
  Speaker 3: Young is the name of it. So it's told from
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 3: Vince Young's perspective. And it gives a lot of the
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 3: things like his wife even and sisters are on it.
• 1:25:46
  Speaker 3: They're like, oh, boy, you know, at Texas they were
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 3: a family and, you know, they were looking out for
• 1:25:51
  Speaker 3: each other and this. And then the NFL, it was
• 1:25:54
  Speaker 3: really cutthroat with Fisher leaking info and saying this and that.
• 1:25:57
  Speaker 3: And I'm thinking, well, this could all be prevented if
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: you were a pro. If you were doing the right things,
• 1:26:02
  Speaker 3: none of this happens. And what it told me, Hutton,
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: was Mack Brown really, really protected Vince Young while he.
• 1:26:11
  Speaker 1: Was in Texas. Oh, and protected everyone else, too.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 2: He cradled him big time.
• 1:26:16
  Speaker 1: The other thing.
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait to watch this.
• 1:26:18
  Speaker 1: And the other thing, too, that comes to mind is
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 1: this is also the era where Jeff Fisher and Floyd
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 1: Reese had a rift. Yeah.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 2: You know, so like.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 1: they were battling to see who was going to keep
• 1:26:30
  Speaker 1: their job and who was going to have the power
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 1: moving forward with ownership and Bud Adams with the Tennessee Titans.
• 1:26:37
  Speaker 1: So this is around that same era.
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he even says, I mean, he goes in detail.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 3: I advise people to watch, but Jeff Fisher goes in
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: detail why they drafted Vince Young, because Bud Adams wanted
• 1:26:48
  Speaker 3: to stick it to the.
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 1: Mayor of Houston.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 2: B-Y is my guy, yeah.
• 1:26:52
  Speaker 3: Well, and he also said the mayor of Houston was
• 1:26:54
  Speaker 3: a woman, and she said– if we don't get Vince
• 1:26:58
  Speaker 3: Young with the Houston Texans, I'm going to jump off
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 3: a bridge. And Jeff Fisher said, this is all in
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 3: the documentary, by the way, which blew my mind. Jeff
• 1:27:06
  Speaker 3: Fisher said, Bud Adams came to us and said, you're
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 3: going to draft Vince Young because I want to watch
• 1:27:12
  Speaker 3: the bitch jump.
• 1:27:15
  Speaker 1: Direct quote.
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 3: That's a direct quote from Jeff Fisher about Bud Adams.
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, Chad, and now we circle back. If you're wondering
• 1:27:23
  Speaker 1: why the Titans went back to Columbia Blue, Now you know.
• 1:27:27
  Speaker 1: Because the hatred between the Adams family and Houston runs deep.
• 1:27:33
  Speaker 1: This is not Titans blue. This is Oilers blue. This
• 1:27:37
  Speaker 1: is not the rivalry between the Oilers and the Titans fans. No,
• 1:27:41
  Speaker 1: it's the rivalry between Houston and the Titans ownership. That's
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: exactly what it is.
• 1:27:47
  Speaker 3: Our argument continues to be Titans fans don't care here
• 1:27:51
  Speaker 3: in the state of Tennessee about Houston. They don't see
• 1:27:53
  Speaker 3: Houston as big of a rival the way the Adams
• 1:27:56
  Speaker 3: family does. It would be like Kyle Whittingham. who's now
• 1:27:59
  Speaker 3: the coach at Michigan, trying to convince Michigan fans why
• 1:28:03
  Speaker 3: BYU is so bad.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 1:28:06
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm going to stick it to those Mormons at
• 1:28:09
  Speaker 3: BYU any chance I get.
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: And I need Michigan fans to get.
• 1:28:12
  Speaker 3: Behind me as we wear these uniforms to commemorate how
• 1:28:16
  Speaker 3: much we don't like BYU.
• 1:28:18
  Speaker 2: That's the equivalent of it. Like, no, nobody cares where
• 1:28:21
  Speaker 2: you are now.
• 1:28:22
  Speaker 1: Trying to tell Michigan fans why they don't need to
• 1:28:23
  Speaker 1: play on Sunday is basically what he means. You know?
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: That's what it is. Good example.
• 1:28:29
  Speaker 3: Him wanting the mayor of Houston to jump off a
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 3: bridge as the reason for Vince Young being drafted was
• 1:28:35
  Speaker 3: something I had not heard before.
• 1:28:37
  Speaker 1: I never heard it confirmed to that level. I had heard,
• 1:28:40
  Speaker 1: I didn't know it was jumping off a bridge. I
• 1:28:42
  Speaker 1: knew it was like to throw shade at the Houston mayor.
• 1:28:45
  Speaker 1: But see, then the Texans went ahead and drafted, they
• 1:28:49
  Speaker 1: had the number one pick, they drafted Mario Williams.
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 3: I'll tell you, Hutton, too, and this doesn't surprise you
• 1:28:55
  Speaker 3: at all, but Lindell White is in it and hilarious.
• 1:28:59
  Speaker 3: I love Lindell. It's Bo Scaife and Lindell White together.
• 1:29:03
  Speaker 1: I love both of them.
• 1:29:04
  Speaker 3: They're in one of their homes, you can tell, and
• 1:29:06
  Speaker 3: a nice home in the background, and they're both talking together.
• 1:29:09
  Speaker 1: But when they talk about Vint VY throwing the.
• 1:29:12
  Speaker 3: Pads, that's when he's hurt, you know, and they lose
• 1:29:15
  Speaker 3: the game, and his thumb is he's not throwing. And
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 3: Jeff Fisher's like, I watch him throw two passes. He
• 1:29:21
  Speaker 3: throws it at the feet of the receiver, and then
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 3: he throws it five yards over his head. And I'm like,
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 3: you can't control the football. We're going to go with
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 3: someone else.
• 1:29:27
  Speaker 2: And then V.Y.
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 3: Is like, I see that as my coach doesn't believe
• 1:29:30
  Speaker 3: in me. So he flies off the handle, throws his pads,
• 1:29:33
  Speaker 3: and then he's like, I'm done with this. And he's
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 3: packing his stuff up loud and doing this. And Jeff
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 3: Fisher's saying, don't do this. Don't walk out on your team.
• 1:29:42
  Speaker 3: And Lindell and Bo Skafer are like, I like how Fish–
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 3: flipped it to don't walk out on your team.
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: And he's like, no, MF-er. He's walking out on you.
• 1:29:53
  Speaker 3: We know he's not walking out on us. Like, this
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 3: is clearly a beef between you two, and he's doing that.
• 1:29:58
  Speaker 3: But Fisher was saying, like, you can't do this to
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 3: your team. Don't walk out on your teammates. But Lindell
• 1:30:05
  Speaker 3: with that sly little grin is like, no, he ain't
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 3: walking out on us.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 1: He's walking out on you. We're all pretty clear on
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 1: the situation here. He's walking out on your ass. Chad,
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: when we come back, I've got a tie-in of the
• 1:30:18
  Speaker 1: personalities that you're describing and how we will not hear
• 1:30:21
  Speaker 1: of the same type of personalities in today's NFL because
• 1:30:25
  Speaker 1: they have shuttered the media from coverage. You don't get
• 1:30:32
  Speaker 1: to know these guys anymore. Let's try to head here
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: on Hunting With Row. It's Hutton and Withrow here at sportandstate.com.
• 1:30:38
  Speaker 1: Also on YouTube, you can follow us there. We hope
• 1:30:40
  Speaker 1: you'll subscribe to the channel at Hutton and Withrow. We
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 1: are presented by Hard Rock Bet. Chad, you know, the
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 1: personality of Lindell White and Bo Skay, if you're mentioning
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 1: Vince Young, Chris Johnson's in that locker room. We can
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 1: continue to go through some of these, right? You're not
• 1:31:00
  Speaker 1: going to find that in today's NFL anymore. Because nowadays...
• 1:31:04
  Speaker 1: You're not really allowed in the locker room. In that era,
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: I say that era, it was not that long ago.
• 1:31:11
  Speaker 1: Rewind 10 years ago and you can find this. During
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 1: training camp, locker rooms open. You can go and talk
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: to the third string linebacker if you wanted to and
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 1: get to know someone and do a profile piece. Now,
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: you can barely watch practice. It's all Deion Sanders media
• 1:31:33
  Speaker 1: protocol now. The only time that you get availability with
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 1: players is if they're behind a podium. The only time
• 1:31:40
  Speaker 1: you get availability with a coach is if he's behind
• 1:31:42
  Speaker 1: a podium. Back in 2005 interning, Chad, every reporter had
• 1:31:49
  Speaker 1: Jeff Fisher's phone number, had Floyd Reese's phone number. And
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 1: if you needed to go on the record, you called
• 1:31:55
  Speaker 1: up the coach. You didn't call media relations. You called
• 1:31:57
  Speaker 1: up the coach and said, hey, I need a quote
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  Speaker 1: for this. And you went on the record with whatever
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 1: report you're going with. Now, these pussies don't do anything.
• 1:32:04
  Speaker 1: They stand behind a podium and they don't speak to
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  Speaker 1: the media. You can't get to know anybody. So it's
• 1:32:10
  Speaker 1: not the same reverence that I have for certain players
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  Speaker 1: now that I did then. Because these guys, they don't
• 1:32:19
  Speaker 1: want to talk. They're coddled.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, the thing about the fight between Vince Young
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 3: and Donnie Nicky that you and I witnessed from the
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 3: sideline that day, we couldn't even report it. No. You know,
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  Speaker 3: I don't think we had. We didn't have Twitter then
• 1:32:32
  Speaker 3: or Twitter accounts.
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  Speaker 1: It was just coming out. I still have my Blackberry.
• 1:32:38
  Speaker 1: I remember having my Blackberry with the track wheel.
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  Speaker 3: But if we would have gone on and reported it
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: on social media somewhere, we probably got yelled at by
• 1:32:45
  Speaker 3: Titans Media Relations, and then it was immediately out, you know,
• 1:32:48
  Speaker 3: then at that time because you could see it and
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: witness it, and social media wasn't a thing, but It
• 1:32:52
  Speaker 3: was still something where you could see the personality. Now
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 3: if you're going to see the personality of a player
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 3: or coach, you've got to watch Hard Knocks or you've
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 3: got to watch some NFL-sanctioned quarterback show on Netflix. Then
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, now I feel like I can see
• 1:33:05
  Speaker 3: the guys at least interacting with their teammates or how
• 1:33:08
  Speaker 3: they are. I got to know Cam Ward a lot
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 3: better watching the quarterback series. Had I gone to Titans practices,
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 3: I didn't. or games and covered him, I wouldn't have
• 1:33:17
  Speaker 3: known anything about Cam Ward.
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  Speaker 1: No, you wouldn't. Personality-wise, you get way more out of
• 1:33:20
  Speaker 1: watching those shows.
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  Speaker 3: Yes.
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  Speaker 1: And you know what, though? With those shows, with hard knocks,
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 1: with quarterback, those organizations, those leagues, those teams, they have
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 1: right of first refusal. So you're getting an edited version
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: of anything that the quarterback wants you to see, or
• 1:33:43
  Speaker 1: the team wants you to see, or the league wants
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 1: you to see. They have the final edit ability on
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 1: those shows. Then you didn't.
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 2: And guess what?
• 1:33:56
  Speaker 1: Everybody turned out okay. In fact, it built the league
• 1:33:58
  Speaker 1: into what it is. You don't know any individuals anymore
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 1: in the National Football League. It's all brand. It's all team.
• 1:34:06
  Speaker 1: It's all front-facing, but you don't get to know anything
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes. And that's sad. It's a lot like
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 1: the NBA to me. It's a lot like Major League
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 1: Baseball to me. The NFL used to have an open
• 1:34:16
  Speaker 1: door policy with the locker room. And guess what? The
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: locker room policed itself. Media members, if a player had
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 1: a beef with you, you showed your face in the
• 1:34:24
  Speaker 1: locker room and things were hashed out. Nowadays, it's just
• 1:34:30
  Speaker 1: in front of a podium, behind a podium. That's all
• 1:34:32
  Speaker 1: it is. That's the only way you get to know
• 1:34:35
  Speaker 1: As a fan, that's the only way you get to
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 1: know a player. If you feel like you don't know,
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I know Cam Ward like I
• 1:34:41
  Speaker 1: did Vince Young. No. And I'm not even talking about
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes, like with you and I having access
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: that no one else would have. I'm not talking about
• 1:34:50
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes backstage access. I'm talking just in general.
• 1:34:55
  Speaker 1: I know nothing about this dude. but yet he's the
• 1:34:58
  Speaker 1: quarterback of the franchise. And you can go Fernando Mendoza.
• 1:35:02
  Speaker 1: How much more do we know about Fernando Mendoza since
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: he's been drafted in the National Football League? Zero. Zero.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: Because they put everything behind closed doors, and they don't
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 1: want the cameras back there unless it's NFL media, and
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 1: it's all to benefit the league instead of benefit the fans.
• 1:35:23
  Speaker 3: It sucks for those local embedded media members that their
• 1:35:28
  Speaker 3: job is to cover a team daily because they get
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: no access, right? So you're just doing like I could do,
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 3: and I have respect for people that are there every
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: day and do that for a living and all that, right?
• 1:35:40
  Speaker 3: But like I can cover the team with opinion or
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 3: a team with opinion the same way most can because
• 1:35:47
  Speaker 3: they're not granted really any more access than I would
• 1:35:50
  Speaker 3: get from reading a practice report or seeing something else.
• 1:35:53
  Speaker 3: That's unfortunate for them. I say that complaining on their
• 1:35:57
  Speaker 3: behalf that they don't get that. Denzel Washington says he's
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 3: not present on social media.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: He actually told Michael B. Jordan this.
• 1:36:05
  Speaker 3: This could be a hint about what's in my column
• 1:36:07
  Speaker 3: coming up too. Don't put yourself out there. Don't give
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 3: the people anything because then they won't pay to go
• 1:36:13
  Speaker 3: see you in the movies if you give them too much.
• 1:36:16
  Speaker 3: Denzel doesn't do a ton of interviews. He's not on
• 1:36:19
  Speaker 3: social media doing TikTok videos or anything. He's like, my
• 1:36:24
  Speaker 3: job is to get people to want to see me
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 3: on a big screen because I'm a movie star. So
• 1:36:29
  Speaker 3: they got to go pay to see me. So I'm
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 3: not going to give that away for free. I can
• 1:36:33
  Speaker 3: understand some of that mantra with the NFL. We are
• 1:36:35
  Speaker 3: too big to fail. We are going to be so
• 1:36:38
  Speaker 3: big that we're not going to allow local media access
• 1:36:41
  Speaker 3: because we want to be.
• 1:36:42
  Speaker 1: A little bit mysterious.
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 3: But, Hutton, I don't think you can play that game
• 1:36:46
  Speaker 3: and also do Project Runway as a team on social media, right,
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 3: when they're getting off the plane and showing everyone and
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 3: what they're wearing. The only way that it's going to
• 1:36:56
  Speaker 3: change is if the popularity of the NFL goes down.
• 1:36:59
  Speaker 3: Or TV ratings go down or they stop making a
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 3: ton of money. But that's not going to happen anytime soon.
• 1:37:04
  Speaker 3: So they're going to continue cutting off media and having
• 1:37:08
  Speaker 3: policies like this because it doesn't really affect them.
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: That's the sad truth is it's not going to affect
• 1:37:13
  Speaker 1: their bottom line. It is a great point you bring
• 1:37:16
  Speaker 1: up about being able to cover a team with opinion now.
• 1:37:19
  Speaker 1: Because I've never thought about it this way, but you're
• 1:37:22
  Speaker 1: spot on. You have the same access that a beat
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 1: writer does that's there every day.
• 1:37:26
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 1: Because you can watch the press conferences on YouTube every day.
• 1:37:30
  Speaker 3: And I can watch the games on TV. And I
• 1:37:32
  Speaker 3: can see a better angle than you can. And we
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 3: can come back and talk about the games.
• 1:37:36
  Speaker 1: And you don't need to watch the practice because you're
• 1:37:38
  Speaker 1: not allowed to report on it anyway. You have to
• 1:37:41
  Speaker 1: ask the coach about practice. And if the coach then
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: deems it okay for you, if he acknowledges what happened
• 1:37:48
  Speaker 1: in practice or an injury, if a coach then acknowledges
• 1:37:51
  Speaker 1: a question about practice, then you can report on it.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: But if the coach just said, I don't know what
• 1:37:56
  Speaker 1: you're talking about, then there's nothing to report on. To
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 1: Chad's point, it's no different than someone could host a
• 1:38:05
  Speaker 1: podcast in Ohio and act like they're covering the Tennessee
• 1:38:09
  Speaker 1: Titans in Nashville.
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 3: That's a great point. And we do a morning show now.
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 3: So when we're going on air, we just have time
• 1:38:15
  Speaker 3: to wake up at 5.30, 5.45, read a little bit,
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: go on air. We're not seeing a million opinions online.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 3: when we come into our show.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 1: That's right.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 3: When we were doing afternoon shows, I'm going to get
• 1:38:25
  Speaker 3: to the point how this ties in the NFL too,
• 1:38:27
  Speaker 3: I promise. But when we're doing an afternoon show, when
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: we come into that show, Hudden, we have been fed
• 1:38:32
  Speaker 3: a thousand opinions already based on our Twitter feed, based
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 3: on videos we're seeing on Instagram, based on what people
• 1:38:40
  Speaker 3: are saying and who's reacting to what. There is a
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 3: benefit of doing a morning show in that we are
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 3: fresh and We're talking about last night's news, the latest news,
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 3: immediately before anyone else can get to it. Clay Travis
• 1:38:52
  Speaker 3: has talked about that ability, too, when he hosted a
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 3: Sports Talk morning show for years. He enjoyed that aspect
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 3: of it, right? You get fresh eyes on something when
• 1:38:59
  Speaker 3: you do that. I could make the argument that we
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 3: are actually at a benefit over those who are there
• 1:39:06
  Speaker 3: daily and they are beholden to a team for any
• 1:39:09
  Speaker 3: access at all. And here's why. Our opinion is not
• 1:39:14
  Speaker 3: curtailed in any way. And that's for any team in
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: the NFL that we watch, right? We're not around the
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 3: players daily. We're not around the coaches daily. Now, someone
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: may come in and say, well, that makes you a
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 3: coward that you won't go face them.
• 1:39:26
  Speaker 1: For what? Also, would you rather have.
• 1:39:29
  Speaker 3: A God's honest opinion and someone who's going to articulate
• 1:39:33
  Speaker 3: it well without fear of anything? Or would you rather
• 1:39:36
  Speaker 3: have someone who's there daily who's feeding you a line
• 1:39:39
  Speaker 3: of bullshit about a player or a coach because they
• 1:39:43
  Speaker 3: are subconsciously afraid of the coach? Or because they know
• 1:39:46
  Speaker 3: they have to see them later. Or they're posting ticket
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 3: sales information on behalf of the team in order to
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: curry favor with the team. I mean, they basically become
• 1:39:55
  Speaker 3: an extension of that NFL franchise when that happens. And
• 1:39:59
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's good for opinion people either.
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 1: Dude, it's such a great point. Because those that are
• 1:40:06
  Speaker 1: doing it, that are posting ticket sales and brick sales
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 1: and all these other things, they're doing it so they
• 1:40:11
  Speaker 1: can keep their access. Exactly. So they keep their small
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 1: window of access.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: And when you never have access like us, we're good.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 3: We can talk about it all we want.
• 1:40:21
  Speaker 1: I guess because I've had the access. I miss the
• 1:40:25
  Speaker 1: access that we used to have. I don't miss this.
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 1: I don't feel like I've missed out on a lot
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 1: of stuff by doing a show in the mornings instead
• 1:40:33
  Speaker 1: of being at practice in the mornings. I haven't missed
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 1: out on a lot of stuff. Now, context, yes. Context
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 1: about the team and speaking about the team, sure. But Chad,
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 1: getting to know people, actually building relationships, having a one-on-one
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: rapport with someone or some player, no, that's gone by
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 1: the wayside. Every player we've mentioned today, I can tell
• 1:40:57
  Speaker 1: you about a one-on-one example I've had with them. I
• 1:40:59
  Speaker 1: can't do that now with this day and age. And
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 1: that's blatant. That is because of the team. That is
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 1: because of the league. That's because of policy. They don't
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 1: want us to do that because they want to control
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 1: literally everything. Very well said, Hutton. Chad, fun show today.
• 1:41:16
  Speaker 1: We are back at it tomorrow. In the meantime, check
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 1: out Next Round Live. LT, Ryan Brown, Jim Dunaway, they're
• 1:41:23
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• 1:41:26
  Speaker 1: and state right now.