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105 Virginia's Forest After Dark: The Truth Behind the Mysterious Glowing Eyes · The Eye of Jupiter Podcast

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the IA Jupiter this episode one hundred
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Speaker 1: and five with Daniel ben Wab from the East Coast
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Speaker 1: Bigfoot Research Association reached out to him and he was like, ah,
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Speaker 1: let's let's do it man, So he came on. He's
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Speaker 1: originally I think from Massachusetts if I'm not mistaken, and
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Speaker 1: he just got interested in sasquatch. He's an avid outdoorsman
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Speaker 1: and he had some weird things happening. Ever since then
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Speaker 1: he created this you know, research association where he goes
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Speaker 1: out in the woods and you know, does some squatch
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Speaker 1: it as the as as they say it in the
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Speaker 1: enjoy this episode with mister Daniel Binlock.
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Speaker 2: Uh.
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Speaker 1: It's been a long day man, How about yourself?
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Speaker 3: I could say the same thing, it's been a long week.
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Speaker 3: I work for ten hour days. So hey, today's my Friday, So.
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Speaker 1: So you work four tens and get the Friday off.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Friday, Saturday and Sundays off.
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Speaker 1: Yah.
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Speaker 3: Yeah. But you know, well, I tell you, you know,
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Speaker 3: working in a warehouse doing factory work. You know, some
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Speaker 3: of us dirty, some of its not too bad. It's
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Speaker 3: just those days really drag, you know, the hours drag by.
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Speaker 3: It seems like it takes seems like it takes ten
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Speaker 3: hours for one hour to pass by.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, there is the secrets. I'm not looking at the clock, man,
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Speaker 1: the secrets. I'm not looking at the clock. I used
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Speaker 1: to be a factory for myself, and we would do
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Speaker 1: eight hours, eight hour shifts, but it would be like
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Speaker 1: sometimes Sundays and it always switched and I was always
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Speaker 1: tired and could not sleep. And I did all that
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Speaker 1: in Germany.
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Speaker 3: So wow, yeah, your classroom, Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is pretty cool. I just sit here, drink
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Speaker 1: my coffee, eat a sandwich, talk, you know, just to
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Speaker 1: help people, you know, do better in their careers or
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Speaker 1: for hobbies and interests, retirees, things like that. So it's cool,
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Speaker 1: oh for sure. Yeah. So do me a favorite, Daniel,
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Speaker 1: Tell me a little bit about yourself and where we
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Speaker 1: can find you.
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Speaker 3: Man, Well, where to begin? Uh? First of all, I'll
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Speaker 3: give a breacher intro, you know, as far as who
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Speaker 3: I am, I'm a wildlife and bigfoot researcher, which I
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Speaker 3: only put wildlife before bigfoot, which I'll be glad to
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Speaker 3: get into that little later. However, I've been involved with
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Speaker 3: research for it's it's pushing sixteen years, you know. I'm
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Speaker 3: gonna tell you it's been very rewarding and uh, you know,
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Speaker 3: it's been exciting along the way. And you being a teacher,
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Speaker 3: I'll tell you this that I love to learn, you know,
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Speaker 3: especially when it comes to things that are mysterious, you know,
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Speaker 3: the outdoors. Anything outdoors. It's what I've been really drawn
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Speaker 3: into because you know, I grew up being outdoors person,
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Speaker 3: you know, ever since I was a young child, growing
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Speaker 3: up in the woods, hunting with dad or whatnot.
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Speaker 1: You know.
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Speaker 3: So you know that's a little bit you know about
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Speaker 3: me is you know, Yeah, I'm not some people might
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Speaker 3: call you a redneck or a roughneck or whatever. I
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Speaker 3: just love the outdoors. I camp as often as possible. Now.
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Speaker 3: I take my grandson out there. You know, he's five
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Speaker 3: years old. I love taking him out there. I want
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Speaker 3: him to learn about the outdoors, you know, as I
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Speaker 3: grew up learning. Yeah, and uh, you know I'm forty
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Speaker 3: five years old and I'm still learning.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think too. I'm also fun, very cool.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I don't think you ever stopped learning. There's
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Speaker 3: only something new to learn, you know. You know, it's
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Speaker 3: like sometimes I find myself teaching people older than me,
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Speaker 3: you know, and I'm not talking about Bigfoot, but you know,
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Speaker 3: there's there's other things I get into and stuff, you know,
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Speaker 3: especially in the workplace, you know, which I won't bring
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Speaker 3: that I won't really get into that. I know, people
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Speaker 3: a much older than me, and it's been working there
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Speaker 3: older than me. And it's funny you come in there,
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Speaker 3: you're the new guy, and you start working with people.
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Speaker 3: You know, like, wait a minute, these guys don't know
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Speaker 3: what they're doing, you know when it comes to certain things,
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Speaker 3: you know, like you find a way to humbly presented
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Speaker 3: to them, you know, but older than me, and Ben
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Speaker 3: here a lot longer than me, But they don't know
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Speaker 3: what they're doing, you know. So I don't know how
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Speaker 3: they get away with it. But you know that's I
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Speaker 3: don't know. I'm that makes sure, If that.
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Speaker 1: Makes sure, if that makes sure a redneck going outdoors,
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Speaker 1: then then I'm one too. Uh. I've always enjoyed the outdoors.
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Speaker 1: I used to do a lot of camping, most of
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Speaker 1: it in Europe, which is not really camping cool, but
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Speaker 1: uh you know, I used to do a lot of windsurfing,
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Speaker 1: uh so in the Netherlands, and then I would go
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Speaker 1: uh winter camping in the Alps and do some skiing
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Speaker 1: and snowboarding and stuff. So uh So, if that makes
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Speaker 1: me a rednick, then so be it. But do you
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Speaker 1: know that rednick is not as actually a term of endearment,
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Speaker 1: uh from something that happened a long time ago. There
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Speaker 1: was a there was like miners in uh, I can't remember,
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Speaker 1: some state like Tennessee, Kentucky and uh they used to
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Speaker 1: work for this mining company and the mining company would
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Speaker 1: give them script which is basically, you know, money that
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Speaker 1: you can only use in the store that the company has.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, when they so when they revolted, So they
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Speaker 1: came back for World War one, and back of World
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Speaker 1: War one, they brought back their rifles with them, right,
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Speaker 1: so they revolted against them, and they actually stormed up
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Speaker 1: the hill to get to the company leader. And they
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Speaker 1: all wore red like handkerchiefs around their neck so they
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Speaker 1: can differentiate between each other because of the smoke and
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Speaker 1: the fire. And they were called the redneck. So it's
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Speaker 1: actually a term that they used for freedom fighters.
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Speaker 3: That's funny because you know, I think I I now
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Speaker 3: that you mentioned that, I think I recall here that yeah,
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Speaker 3: sounds very familiar. Then again, on the other side of things, well,
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Speaker 3: growing up learning what the term rednick means, a lot
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Speaker 3: of people refer to it as the country boy, you know,
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Speaker 3: working out in the fields or working on a farm
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Speaker 3: or whatever, wearing like a white beater and getting that
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Speaker 3: sunburn on the back of the neck. You know, it's
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Speaker 3: kind of the other term, the other mindset I've always pictured, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, it was the negative. There's always like a negative
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Speaker 1: connotation to it. So too, like if they can if
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Speaker 1: someone calls your red neck, that like they automatically assume
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Speaker 1: that your IQ is then lowered than somebody else from
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Speaker 1: the big city. You know what I mean. That's which
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Speaker 1: is ridiculous, right, It's just a different way of life. Yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: so I'm sorry. Yeah, we're gonna roll, buddy. So you
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Speaker 1: started researching you just always find yourself outdoors and then like,
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Speaker 1: so when did you start having these strange experiences that
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Speaker 1: you came on to talk to me?
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Speaker 3: Well, well, like I said, well, let me back up
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Speaker 3: real quick. I mean I was a young boy when
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Speaker 3: I'm I live in Virginia and I was eleven years
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Speaker 3: old from Maryland. From Maryland, Okay, Well, I'm originally from
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Speaker 3: the state of Massachusetts. Wow, my father's job. Yeah yeah,
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Speaker 3: I'm originally from Massachusetts, but I came. I came to
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Speaker 3: Virginia age eleven. Dad's jobs brought us down here, and uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, I tell you, being from up there and
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Speaker 3: eleven years old. Coming down here, You're not in Kansas,
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Speaker 3: no more todo, you know, you know my per se,
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Speaker 3: you know, it's it was a different world down here
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Speaker 3: from what I was used to. And uh, but you know,
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Speaker 3: down to even though I've been out in the woods
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Speaker 3: a lot, I was either playing in the woods, uh,
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Speaker 3: you know, on my own or Dad would take me
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Speaker 3: up you know, hunting. You know, I've I've camped at
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Speaker 3: a young age on several occasions. But coming down here,
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Speaker 3: there was a new world that was introduced to me.
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Speaker 3: And it was a lot to learn, a lot to
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Speaker 3: you know, get into. And so you know, we we
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Speaker 3: had property down here. We we ended up doing a
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Speaker 3: lot more hunting as I grew up into a team.
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Speaker 3: And you know, I grew up east of the Blue
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Speaker 3: Ridge Mountains and now I'm on the west side of
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Speaker 3: Blue Ridge. I'm in the Shanando Valley here.
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Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I got yeah.
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Speaker 3: And uh, for those who may not be familiar with
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Speaker 3: the Shanando Valley or never been in this part of Virginia,
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Speaker 3: this is a place to visit. Is that if you
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Speaker 3: want some beautiful scenery, the Shanando Valley has a lot
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Speaker 3: to offer. I will say that, and I'm only about
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Speaker 3: an hour from West Virginia. I spent a lot of
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Speaker 3: time in West Virginia as well. So if you want mountains,
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Speaker 3: you know, we don't have mountains like out in the
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Speaker 3: Rockies Colorado, and our mountains are a different type of mountains.
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Speaker 3: You know, we have a lot of deep terrain out here,
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Speaker 3: you know, a lot of wilderness. A lot of people
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Speaker 3: underestimate Virginia and the whole East Coast to begin with,
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Speaker 3: I've learned that something I observed over the years, especially
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Speaker 3: getting involved with the whole big research, the East Coast
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Speaker 3: is highly underestimated. And you know, as far as my
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Speaker 3: time getting into this, you know, I'll give you a
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Speaker 3: background on what basically drew me into the whole big
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Speaker 3: Foot field. And for a lot of people, a lot
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Speaker 3: of people familiar with this, and I think a lot
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Speaker 3: of people. What am I about to bring up? I think
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Speaker 3: that did it for a lot of other people as well.
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Speaker 3: It may not be everybody, but if Roger Pattinson and
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Speaker 3: Bob Diddlan footage of October twenty if of.
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Speaker 4: Nineteen sixty seven, that way, that footage alone opened up
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Speaker 4: a whole world to you know, it presented it this
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Speaker 4: world to people like what the heck is this?
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Speaker 3: Where did this come from? You know, it's just the
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Speaker 3: real deal, you know, until this day. A lot of
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Speaker 3: it is debated. Till this day, there's some people that
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Speaker 3: don't believe in it. But after seeing that footage, you know,
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Speaker 3: it's been presented on social media, it's been presented on
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Speaker 3: documentaries over the years. And when I seen that footage,
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Speaker 3: it's just, I don't know, something inside me clicked, you know.
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Speaker 3: I was like, Wow, this is like really good stuff.
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Speaker 3: This is awesome, you know, and me being the outdoors
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Speaker 3: person that's familiar with a lot of wildlife, I never
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Speaker 3: thought about whoa you know, I never seen nothing like this.
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Speaker 3: I never had an experience before seeing this. So it
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Speaker 3: had me out in the field. You know, it made
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Speaker 3: me want to go out a lot more than I
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Speaker 3: have been to start looking for something like this, you know, So.
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Speaker 2: That that footage loan like Sparker, this this, you know,
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Speaker 2: like this curiosity, the curiosity grew into a passion.
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Speaker 3: It had me out there almost full time or you know,
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Speaker 3: full speed ahead, I should say. But I had a
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Speaker 3: lot of excitement, I had a lot of motivation, and
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Speaker 3: you know, I was actually looking for evidence. I was
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Speaker 3: looking for things that I never thought of looking for before,
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Speaker 3: and and started you know, keeping my eyes on the
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Speaker 3: ground and you know, being more aware of my surroundings.
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Speaker 3: It wasn't long I actually started fighting foot tracks, you know,
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Speaker 3: and that there the foot tracks alone like really like
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Speaker 3: pumped me up, you know. And as long as I've
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Speaker 3: been in this, I'm still motivated. I'm still excited. But uh,
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Speaker 3: I started doing more research. I started researching as much
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Speaker 3: as I can outside of the field. I started reading
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Speaker 3: about different things. I started studying about different things. And
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Speaker 3: one of the big things I saw on social media
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Speaker 3: when I first got involved on social media, I was
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Speaker 3: kind of blown away when I started looking into bigfoot
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Speaker 3: on social media that it was all these other people involved, right,
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Speaker 3: So it was kind of mind blowing. I said, Okay,
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Speaker 3: there's a lot of other people that are actually looking
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Speaker 3: into this, so are researching it. And I started noting
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Speaker 3: all these different theories. There were so many different theories
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Speaker 3: about what Bigfoot is, what he could do. You know.
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Speaker 3: I never jumped on board with any of this, but
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Speaker 3: I took notes. You know, I was like, Okay, is
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Speaker 3: there any truth behind this? That's where it led me
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Speaker 3: to further research. You know. I was like, well, if
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Speaker 3: there's any truth behind this, hopefully I can find evidence
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Speaker 3: of that or witness something or experience something, you know.
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Speaker 3: So I went on to form my own research team.
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Speaker 3: Even though I started off as a solo individual, I
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Speaker 3: started gathering or associating with others, you know, and I
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Speaker 3: started putting myself out there. I said, well, this is
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Speaker 3: who I am, this is what I'm doing. You know.
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Speaker 3: I wanted to connect with other people. And it wasn't
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Speaker 3: long where I started sharing some of my thoughts, my opinions,
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Speaker 3: my views. And as I continued into this, I started
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Speaker 3: drawing my own c own illusions, you know. Of course,
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Speaker 3: my thoughts and my opinions on this was kind of
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Speaker 3: shut down you know by some people like I never
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Speaker 3: realized it was experts in the field, you know, and
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Speaker 3: which till this day, there's no experts right right right, yeah.
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Speaker 3: They just I wanted to know what makes them think this,
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Speaker 3: Did they experience that, did they witness this? You know,
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Speaker 3: there's so many different things that people say, well, bigfot's
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Speaker 3: to this and big pots not that. Well I looked
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Speaker 3: into it. It's deeper. Does science know about Bigfoot, you know,
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Speaker 3: has he been proven to exist? I mean, where are
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Speaker 3: they getting their facts from, you know, or their self
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Speaker 3: proclaimed facts? I should say, well, based off of what
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Speaker 3: I've experienced in witness over the years and things I
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Speaker 3: started finding. Well, if Bigfoot is doing this, these are
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Speaker 3: things that some of the things I'm finding I can
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Speaker 3: contribute to a known species that does exist, for example, primates,
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Speaker 3: non human primates, chimpanzees, guerrillas, you know, you know, right.
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Speaker 3: It made me start looking at them a lot more,
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Speaker 3: you know, started reading and researching our non human primates,
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Speaker 3: you know, and I started learning about their behaviors, their characteristics,
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Speaker 3: their diets, their vocals, especially their vocals and why they
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Speaker 3: vocal you know. And then I started like, wait a minute,
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Speaker 3: Bigfoot's doing this, Bigfit's doing this. I said, so are
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Speaker 3: non human primates doing this? It's bigfoots some kind of primate.
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Speaker 3: You know. The more I looked into it, to me personally,
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Speaker 3: it only made sense, you know, because people say, no,
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Speaker 3: Bigfoot's is not a primate, he's a human. Then that's
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Speaker 3: where I would learn, Well, people contradict themselfs Do they
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Speaker 3: realize that according to science humans we're primates? Do we're
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Speaker 3: you know, we're human primates, and then you have the
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Speaker 3: non human primates, you know. So it was kind of
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Speaker 3: a difficult thing for me to present, but I did
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Speaker 3: the best I could with what little knowledge I had
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Speaker 3: back then. But even to this day, I mean, the
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Speaker 3: more I looked into it, you know, we're still discovering
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Speaker 3: and learning a lot of new things about our primates
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Speaker 3: are non human primates. But I will say that the
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Speaker 3: theories of Bigfoot have come a long way. There's a
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Speaker 3: lot of weird things that are presented about Bigfoot and
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Speaker 3: things I can't quite jump on board with. You know,
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Speaker 3: if Bigfoot is interdimensional, does he have abilities? You know,
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Speaker 3: there are things recently I've had their experience. But the
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Speaker 3: things that I recently experienced, I can't say Bigfoot's responsible
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Speaker 3: because Bigfoot wasn't sight you know, I just see know
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Speaker 3: Bigfoot during these weird experiences I've had, me and my group,
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Speaker 3: we witnessed seeing like I talked to you about a
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Speaker 3: few days ago about seeing strange lights in the woods. Yeah,
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Speaker 3: you know, some people say that's big Foot. I can't
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Speaker 3: say it's big Foot. I didn't see a big Foot
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Speaker 3: during the whole encounter. But it's something we can't explain.
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Speaker 3: You know, we've had what we would contribute to the
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Speaker 3: paranormal side of things, other things in that area. Besides
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Speaker 3: a strange light, there's things that we don't understand what's
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Speaker 3: going on over there. You know, we want to we
17:31
Speaker 3: want to say it's more paranormal, but we're not ready
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Speaker 3: to point fingers quite yet.
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Speaker 1: But okay, yeah, that's completely understandable. That's completely understandable. And
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Speaker 1: people when people are experiencing, like you're experiencing your experiences
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Speaker 1: of what defines your reality, and some people are experiencing
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Speaker 1: things where hey, I speak to a ton and now
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Speaker 1: it's starting to really get up there. Of Native Americans,
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Speaker 1: there's ones that will say, no, dude, they're just an animal.
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Speaker 1: And then there's two other ones who are that are
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Speaker 1: medicine women from the last of their you know, their tribe,
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Speaker 1: I guess you would say, or they're people and they're like, oh, yeah, definitely,
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Speaker 1: they're they're this. Or there's people who've had mind speaking
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Speaker 1: or go, yeah, they told me that we're not from here.
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Speaker 1: And then some people go, oh, that's bs. So like
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Speaker 1: your experiences inform what your opinion is. So I think
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Speaker 1: it's important that we, you know, like always stay open
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Speaker 1: to the possibility, but don't jump to any conclusions.
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Speaker 3: Right exactly. I mean, yeah, I mean, like I told people,
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Speaker 3: I've I used to be a little bit more closed mind,
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Speaker 3: closed minded for a long time, but because of what
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Speaker 3: we've experienced, and again we can't contribute what we have
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Speaker 3: experienced the bigfoot, but it's opened me up a lot
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Speaker 3: more to a different side of things, a different reality
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Speaker 3: that's going on here. And you know, now the back
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Speaker 3: up before all this, all the recent stuff. Back in
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Speaker 3: twenty fourteen, I was with a different group and we
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Speaker 3: had a bigfoot experience we've had, well, we didn't we
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Speaker 3: didn't realize it started off as a bigfoot, but we
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Speaker 3: didn't know it was a big foot or big foots
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Speaker 3: or feets because they was one. Yeah, So what we
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Speaker 3: experienced during a group night hike. We were actually this
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Speaker 3: was around midnight. And you know, I've told the story
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Speaker 3: so many times I'll kind of cut through some of them. Sure,
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Speaker 3: but we were doing our one back It was at
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Speaker 3: May third or twenty fourteen. It was during the week
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Speaker 3: that we were doing one of our group campouts and
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Speaker 3: we did a night hike. Well, in the era we
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Speaker 3: were in. We had gone down to the lake, spent
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Speaker 3: some time down around there, and it was getting late,
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Speaker 3: so we regrouped and like, hey, late, let's get back
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Speaker 3: to camp. You know. So our mission was to get
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Speaker 3: back to the camp. We had almost a mile hike
20:04
Speaker 3: back to the camp from the lake that we were at. Well,
20:08
Speaker 3: while we were walking back out, headed back out to
20:10
Speaker 3: the main forest road, we're walking a single fire line.
20:14
Speaker 3: We all have our headlampstarn and we're walking up the
20:17
Speaker 3: forest road and you know, and we're talking at normal tone.
20:23
Speaker 3: We're not trying to keep quiet. We're just just marching, hiking,
20:26
Speaker 3: walking back to the camp. And what was interesting was right
20:31
Speaker 3: out in front of us, about ten feet away, here
20:34
Speaker 3: was this deer. We see the eyeshine of a deer.
20:37
Speaker 3: It's walking right towards us, and then it turns off
20:39
Speaker 3: nonchalantly and walks off. I was like, whoa cool. That
20:43
Speaker 3: deer was awful close to us, you know, it was
20:46
Speaker 3: like ten I mean I was in front of everybody,
20:48
Speaker 3: you know, everybody else was kind of trailing behind it
20:50
Speaker 3: in a single fire line. And yeah, so yeah, guys,
20:54
Speaker 3: look there's a deer right there. You know, it walked off.
20:56
Speaker 3: Of course, you know, it's so dark, it disappeared fairly quick,
21:01
Speaker 3: you know. Anyway, So after seeing the deer, it wasn't
21:05
Speaker 3: long after we walked up past the web of deer
21:07
Speaker 3: turned off over on the other side of the road
21:11
Speaker 3: that we were walking on. Something catches my attention and
21:15
Speaker 3: I stopped and I'm looking at what looks like somebody reflection,
21:20
Speaker 3: you know, the what the heck is that? Now? I mind, you,
21:23
Speaker 3: in the National Forest and random locations, there's these little
21:28
Speaker 3: tiny metal signs and they're in random parts of the
21:32
Speaker 3: National Force, and usually what they these particular signs say
21:36
Speaker 3: is no vehicle to be on this point. And that's
21:39
Speaker 3: what I thought I was looking at. You know, I
21:42
Speaker 3: was like, that's the weird place for one of those
21:43
Speaker 3: signs to be, because you know, it's all woods, all
21:46
Speaker 3: trees all over there, and I'm staring at it, and
21:50
Speaker 3: all of a sudden it became more into focus. It
21:54
Speaker 3: actually blinked, and that's when I realized it was the
21:56
Speaker 3: set of eyes. My buddy Tracy was the next one
22:00
Speaker 3: on me. I say, Tracy, what the heck is that?
22:02
Speaker 3: And because it was kind of sitting a little low
22:05
Speaker 3: off the edge of the road and the first I
22:08
Speaker 3: don't know why, it was a first flop that popped
22:10
Speaker 3: in my head. After I got his attention, I said,
22:11
Speaker 3: is that a freaking mountain lying? And so they've been
22:14
Speaker 3: started and known to be out in the area before,
22:16
Speaker 3: you know, But that makes.
22:18
Speaker 1: It makes sense. You're trying to conceptualize what you're saying.
22:21
Speaker 3: That makes sense, right, And for the record, for those
22:24
Speaker 3: who want the listeners, this was like a bright yellow
22:28
Speaker 3: It was like it was yellow. And of course I
22:31
Speaker 3: don't know if that was the color, you know, reflecting
22:33
Speaker 3: off the color of our headlamps or whatever, but what
22:35
Speaker 3: I saw was like blazing yellow, like bright, large and
22:39
Speaker 3: yellow looking eye and it was sitting kind of low.
22:43
Speaker 3: You know. Sometimes I learned later on that sometimes eye
22:47
Speaker 3: shine or eye reflection is based off that depends on
22:50
Speaker 3: the type of color or the type of light that
22:52
Speaker 3: us and you know, but we all experienced the same colors,
22:58
Speaker 3: you know, because Tracy was the first one to see
23:00
Speaker 3: the eye shine with me. And like I said, mountain
23:06
Speaker 3: lion was the first I that came to my mind,
23:08
Speaker 3: And all of a sudden we're both staring at it
23:10
Speaker 3: and we see it like kind of like zip off
23:12
Speaker 3: like disappeared, Like what the heck was that? And Tracy
23:15
Speaker 3: got the attention to the rest of his group. Guys,
23:17
Speaker 3: get up here. We got some eye shine out here.
23:19
Speaker 3: So we walk up a little bit and get in
23:21
Speaker 3: a position where we saw the eye shine. We're standing
23:23
Speaker 3: there in a group right there on the road, and
23:26
Speaker 3: we're looking down through the woods. It's real thick these trees.
23:29
Speaker 3: There's bushes probably between thirty to forty feet out. We
23:33
Speaker 3: pick up the eye shine again, and now we realize
23:36
Speaker 3: that it's like, well, we're standing on the higher ground.
23:39
Speaker 3: Its sloped down several feet and then level back out,
23:41
Speaker 3: so we're definitely looking down at it, and we're looking
23:45
Speaker 3: at it. And this side of eye shine, you could
23:47
Speaker 3: tell it was still small, whatever it was, you know,
23:50
Speaker 3: we estimated maybe around four feet tall. Okay, well, what
23:54
Speaker 3: was interesting about this eye shine? You could see it
23:57
Speaker 3: we swaying side to side. Now, we didn't pick up
23:59
Speaker 3: no silhouette, no shape for nothing. We couldn't make out
24:03
Speaker 3: no details, nothing but the eye shine. It was really dark.
24:06
Speaker 3: It was after midnight, and again it was swaying's side
24:10
Speaker 3: the side pretty swiftly. What the hell are we looking
24:12
Speaker 3: at here? And what this thing't making no sense, but
24:15
Speaker 3: it was exciting. It was interesting because sometimes the things
24:20
Speaker 3: that are miss that are mystery or unknown to you
24:23
Speaker 3: is always exciting. Right, So again we're looking at this,
24:29
Speaker 3: and I'll tell you it wasn't even maybe a minute
24:32
Speaker 3: or two later, not even that. Maybe I lost track
24:35
Speaker 3: of how long it took to see everything. With about
24:38
Speaker 3: five and six feet to the right of this one,
24:40
Speaker 3: another one appeared, same colored eye shine, but it was
24:44
Speaker 3: actually about two feet tall than the small one. So
24:47
Speaker 3: we're looking at you know, keep in mind, we estimated
24:50
Speaker 3: the small one to be around four feet. This one
24:52
Speaker 3: was probably about two feet taller. And it didn't it
24:55
Speaker 3: didn't express any movement, but you can see the eye shine.
24:59
Speaker 3: It would blink our occasions. So now we have a
25:03
Speaker 3: four foot subject and a two foot subject, and I
25:06
Speaker 3: go on to call them subjects. We don't know what
25:08
Speaker 3: we're looking at here.
25:09
Speaker 1: You mean a four and a six right, yes, okay.
25:12
Speaker 3: And it's interesting because a small one stayed swaying, and
25:16
Speaker 3: again the second one was occasionally blinking as eye You
25:20
Speaker 3: can see the eyes closed and open. So we're looking
25:25
Speaker 3: at this and I'm going to observe it and you know,
25:28
Speaker 3: we all saw a couple of us on some bright
25:30
Speaker 3: had laps on, and what didn't make sense is why
25:32
Speaker 3: aren't we picking up details? Why aren't we seeing what
25:34
Speaker 3: we're looking at here? She's you know, the eye shine.
25:37
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know, it's just I didn't understand that.
25:41
Speaker 3: So I'm skinning the area while this is going on
25:44
Speaker 3: with the two that are there.
25:46
Speaker 1: Chris Daniel, could you estimate how far away this was
25:49
Speaker 1: from you?
25:50
Speaker 3: From where we were standing? It was? Yeah, it was
25:53
Speaker 3: roughly between thirty and forty feet out.
25:55
Speaker 1: Okay, that's not that far.
25:56
Speaker 3: Okay, And like I said, we're we're on the higher ground.
25:59
Speaker 3: We're kind of looking out looking down, but you know,
26:02
Speaker 3: like it could have been more, but thirty to forty feet.
26:05
Speaker 3: I'm usually pretty good, you know, on estimating distance on
26:08
Speaker 3: the most part, So yeah, even this day, because I've
26:12
Speaker 3: gone back there sell times and you know, and and
26:15
Speaker 3: did other estimates with people, you know, and you know, Yeah,
26:19
Speaker 3: so it's about thirty to forty feet out. So I'm
26:25
Speaker 3: I personally, I'm looking through the area and keep in
26:28
Speaker 3: mind you, like I said, there was some thick bushes
26:30
Speaker 3: in the area, and I'm looking across I'm scaring of
26:34
Speaker 3: the area, and I just don't have to look down
26:37
Speaker 3: low enough. And I noticed a third set of eye shine.
26:41
Speaker 3: But the third set of eye shine looked like it
26:43
Speaker 3: was to me, it looked like it was down on
26:46
Speaker 3: the ground itself, Like, what the heck is that? And
26:50
Speaker 3: all of a sudden I noticed his eye shine. I
26:51
Speaker 3: stayed like, I think I while I'm staring at it,
26:54
Speaker 3: I think I said something about, you know, I didn't
26:56
Speaker 3: really point it out, but I was like, there's another
26:59
Speaker 3: set I shining. I don't know, I may have I
27:01
Speaker 3: don't remember, but I'm staring at it, and all of
27:04
Speaker 3: a sudden, this bird said, eye shine started moving. It
27:07
Speaker 3: started like raising up and like it was as if
27:10
Speaker 3: it was either laying down on the ground or crouched
27:13
Speaker 3: down real low. But it started raising up and it
27:17
Speaker 3: kept going up and up. And when it stopped over
27:21
Speaker 3: top over top of the bush, the bushes was kind
27:23
Speaker 3: of fairly tall from the distance I was looking at them,
27:26
Speaker 3: and all of a sudden, this bird said of eye shine.
27:28
Speaker 3: By the time it stopped, it was towering another two
27:32
Speaker 3: feet over the top of the six foot one. Wow,
27:35
Speaker 3: I said, what the heck, you know? And then others
27:40
Speaker 3: started noticing it like I did. My buddy Tracy. Now,
27:45
Speaker 3: after seeing all three and I and again, I'll remind
27:48
Speaker 3: you that small one was still swaying side decide. But
27:52
Speaker 3: after looking at the third one, we see how tall
27:56
Speaker 3: it was compared to the others. And Tracy was the
27:59
Speaker 3: first wanted to say something. He'said, guys, we've got squatches. Now.
28:04
Speaker 3: I don't know if he was just saying that because
28:06
Speaker 3: basically the height that we were seeing all of them,
28:09
Speaker 3: I don't know. I didn't see nothing that said squatches.
28:13
Speaker 3: I wasn't even thinking about big porta sassquat whatever. But
28:17
Speaker 3: I was like, well I heard him say this. I
28:19
Speaker 3: was like, if that's what these are, I need something more.
28:23
Speaker 3: I needed to see something. I needed some kind of evidence,
28:26
Speaker 3: that you know, to really suggest that. Mmm, well, that
28:30
Speaker 3: tall one. This is where it got interesting because that
28:33
Speaker 3: tall one. After observing that one, that one then caught
28:36
Speaker 3: my attention. Even though glancing back every now and then
28:38
Speaker 3: looking at the other, that tall one kept my focus.
28:43
Speaker 3: And at one point it appeared to have turned to
28:48
Speaker 3: its left and had possibly take a step or two
28:52
Speaker 3: and then turned back during that maneuver, and I'm I'm
28:58
Speaker 3: only guessing or assuming it hadn't been the angle and
29:01
Speaker 3: our the way our lights were hitting it made out
29:06
Speaker 3: a very wide, huge silhouette.
29:08
Speaker 5: You know.
29:09
Speaker 3: When I say that I'm talking about I saw a
29:11
Speaker 3: very wide shape of shoulders, very wide broad shoulders and
29:15
Speaker 3: around the head on top. And that to me is like,
29:19
Speaker 3: that's not a bear, you know, right right? And I
29:22
Speaker 3: wasn't even thinking about a bear either, But when I
29:25
Speaker 3: saw a broad shoulders and a big round head on
29:28
Speaker 3: top of the shoulders, that's when it confirmed, like, okay,
29:33
Speaker 3: that's things around eight feet tall and he's got very wide,
29:36
Speaker 3: broad shoulders and a big round head. To me, that
29:39
Speaker 3: convinced me, okay, what these can't be anything other than
29:44
Speaker 3: sasquad bigfoot, you know, I was kind of convinced, you know,
29:50
Speaker 3: I mean, there's nothing else that will say what other
29:53
Speaker 3: species could these be? It wouldn't add up to any
29:55
Speaker 3: other species that it's known, you know. And it wasn't
30:01
Speaker 3: long not long after seeing that all three of them
30:05
Speaker 3: all turned off and it seemed like they all want
30:08
Speaker 3: turned off, walked away and disappeared more. And then we
30:14
Speaker 3: backed up and we continue to walk up the fourth road.
30:18
Speaker 3: Of course, while we were walking we had a couple.
30:21
Speaker 3: They were down from her mind, Kimmy and Darren and
30:24
Speaker 3: uh resting. So rest in peace, Darren. Darren he's no
30:28
Speaker 3: longer here, he passed away a few years ago. But
30:31
Speaker 3: they were older couple, and uh, Kimmy, she was the
30:36
Speaker 3: only one that ever expressed any kind of fear or
30:40
Speaker 3: nervousness or you know, like she was scared about it.
30:43
Speaker 3: Everybody else, I included myself, I didn't feel scared one bit,
30:47
Speaker 3: even though until we realized before even before realizing what
30:50
Speaker 3: they were till laughter weeks. And it's probably because there
30:53
Speaker 3: was five there were five other people with there were
30:56
Speaker 3: six of us total. So but she would like we
31:00
Speaker 3: were all here like limbs snapping and whatever they were
31:03
Speaker 3: stepping on and she was like, oh my god, you're
31:05
Speaker 3: following us. I said, no, they're walking through the woods.
31:08
Speaker 3: I mean there's all kinds of limbs and trees off,
31:10
Speaker 3: you know whatever. You know, I said, if they the
31:13
Speaker 3: way I look at it now, if they meant any
31:14
Speaker 3: harm to us, we would have known about it right right,
31:17
Speaker 3: you know. But that whole situation, well, let me let
31:22
Speaker 3: me before I get into that. By the time we
31:26
Speaker 3: made it back to camp, we were still talking about it,
31:30
Speaker 3: and we were actually trying to debunk it, like like
31:35
Speaker 3: what else? We were asking ourselves pretty much what else
31:37
Speaker 3: could they be? You know? But I myself and I
31:43
Speaker 3: think it was Tracy. A few of us had backpacks on,
31:47
Speaker 3: but me and Tracy. Inside our backpacks we each had
31:51
Speaker 3: our own night vision binoculars, and during the whole situation,
31:55
Speaker 3: not once did we ever think about pulling our night
31:58
Speaker 3: vision up to get a better observation. You know.
32:01
Speaker 5: So, yeah, that's a common occurrence, man, when you're well, yeah,
32:10
Speaker 5: everyone does that, just like you know, when when people
32:12
Speaker 5: are confronted with the unknown, it's more like, you know,
32:15
Speaker 5: your mouth hits the floor and you're just kind of like,
32:17
Speaker 5: what is this?
32:19
Speaker 1: You know nothing. Very rarely is it like all let
32:21
Speaker 1: me get out my you know, my equipment so I
32:23
Speaker 1: can get a better look at this or record or whatever.
32:25
Speaker 1: It's very rare that it happens, at least in my
32:27
Speaker 1: experiences of speaking with people who've had these types of experiences.
32:32
Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you're you're observing what you're seeing, and
32:35
Speaker 3: you want to mentally gather as much information you can
32:39
Speaker 3: into your own mind what you're witnessing and what you're
32:42
Speaker 3: seeing absolutely. Yeah, but again, yeah, we were kind of
32:46
Speaker 3: kicking ourselves in the butt. We're not even thinking about it,
32:49
Speaker 3: you know. Now. However, the next day we did go
32:55
Speaker 3: back to that same location. We went back there and
32:59
Speaker 3: you and we did the height comparison. You know, a
33:01
Speaker 3: few of us got down in position where we you know,
33:04
Speaker 3: at the distance we've seen them at and there was
33:08
Speaker 3: uh remember trying to remember his name, one of the
33:12
Speaker 3: gentleman that was with us. He was probably a couple
33:15
Speaker 3: of inches tall. I'm six foot tall. Yeah, he was
33:17
Speaker 3: probably about an inches too taller than me. So we
33:19
Speaker 3: were the tallest out of the group. And me and
33:22
Speaker 3: him got down in position with the tallest one was
33:25
Speaker 3: and you know, I think I can't remember who was
33:28
Speaker 3: standing at the edge of the road, but we got
33:30
Speaker 3: behind the bushes where we seen the tallest one and
33:32
Speaker 3: even raising my hands straight up, you know, that was
33:35
Speaker 3: about probably about the eye level, top of top about
33:38
Speaker 3: where we had so estimate. Yeah, everything seemed to match
33:44
Speaker 3: up with what we had estimated, you know, so it
33:46
Speaker 3: made a lot of sense. And uh so, yeah, the
33:50
Speaker 3: height comparison thing worked out pretty good. And but yeah,
33:55
Speaker 3: that was it was an exciting moment, you know, for
33:58
Speaker 3: a lot of us, you know, it was that we
34:00
Speaker 3: got to experience that. However, we did look for tracks
34:03
Speaker 3: in that area. We looked for tracks, but I will
34:07
Speaker 3: tell you the ground was very uneven. It was grassy,
34:11
Speaker 3: even though there was thick bushes and trees off through there,
34:13
Speaker 3: that particular area, there was a lot of grass and
34:15
Speaker 3: stuff on the ground, but it was lumpy, every lumpy.
34:19
Speaker 3: So there was no way to make out any tracks
34:22
Speaker 3: in the area, you know, even though some of the
34:24
Speaker 3: ground even step in there, even me, I mean, I
34:26
Speaker 3: don't know how much I weighed that. I'm two hundred
34:28
Speaker 3: and twenty one pounds. Now, I might have been heavier
34:32
Speaker 3: back then. I was a lot bigger not long ago.
34:34
Speaker 3: But but you could feel the softness of the ground
34:38
Speaker 3: as you step in it. But even I wasn't even
34:42
Speaker 3: leaving an impression. So so yeah, the tracks and you know,
34:46
Speaker 3: everything we weren't visible because this particular area in the evening,
34:50
Speaker 3: a lot of the deer coming to this area. So
34:55
Speaker 3: one thing I'm going to bring up and present in
34:58
Speaker 3: theory be after this other incident that took.
35:01
Speaker 1: Place, Okay, well a whole.
35:04
Speaker 3: Year later, now, I mind you, that was that event
35:08
Speaker 3: took place May third or twenty fourteen, Well in twenty fifteen,
35:13
Speaker 3: in the month of November, during the hunting season. Just
35:17
Speaker 3: around a corner outside of this area from where it
35:20
Speaker 3: took place, there was there's a couple of camp spots. Now,
35:22
Speaker 3: remind you, these camp spots are primitive locations. It's not
35:26
Speaker 3: a campground. It's wherever you can find an open area
35:28
Speaker 3: to campaign. That's how it works in this area, you know.
35:31
Speaker 3: And so there was two spots, a little bit bigger
35:33
Speaker 3: spot and a smaller spot just around the corner. I
35:37
Speaker 3: was in the smallest spot. I was camping by myself
35:39
Speaker 3: because I was hunting there during the daytime. Well, one
35:44
Speaker 3: of the nights I was there at my campsite, I
35:45
Speaker 3: had a fire going. I had my my Shavy Blazer there,
35:48
Speaker 3: and I had my shotgun laying, you know, leaning up
35:51
Speaker 3: against my vehicle, and I'm just sitting there. The fire's
35:55
Speaker 3: going this awful quiet. You know, it's dig quiet, you know,
36:00
Speaker 3: because I'm used to listen to the night sounds anyway,
36:02
Speaker 3: but I wasn't. I wasn't hearing nothing. It was just
36:05
Speaker 3: so quiet, and I was so wide awake. I wasn't
36:08
Speaker 3: sleepy yet like I was kind of getting bored just
36:10
Speaker 3: sitting there around you know, my tent was nearby, fire going,
36:13
Speaker 3: and so what do I do. I say, you know,
36:16
Speaker 3: get up and walk out into the middle of the
36:18
Speaker 3: fourth road. I grab my spotlight. Now I never turned
36:21
Speaker 3: it on, but I walk I walk out into the
36:23
Speaker 3: middle of the fourth Road in total darkness. And I
36:27
Speaker 3: do this on some rare occasions when I camp by myself.
36:31
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know what it is why I
36:33
Speaker 3: do it, but I just kind of like to listen
36:35
Speaker 3: and observe, you know, the woods around nighttime, you know.
36:40
Speaker 3: And I walk out into the middle road, and again,
36:44
Speaker 3: nobody else's camping nearby. There's no other campers or hunters
36:47
Speaker 3: in the area, you know, even though during the hunting
36:49
Speaker 3: season usually that area there's a lot of people that
36:51
Speaker 3: camp up there for the hunting season. And again I
36:56
Speaker 3: was standing in the middle of the fourth road in
36:58
Speaker 3: total darkness, just kind of list even though there's no lights.
37:02
Speaker 3: I'm looking around, seeing, looking around, and dead quiet, not
37:07
Speaker 3: hearing a thing. So I decided to take my spotlight
37:12
Speaker 3: and I start, you know, I'm pointing, I'm looking. I'm
37:15
Speaker 3: in the middle before for the tree line across me.
37:18
Speaker 3: It's about twenty feet away, and I pulled the churger
37:21
Speaker 3: on my spotlight and the first thing I hear right
37:24
Speaker 3: away is a four legged creature. I kicked up a deer.
37:28
Speaker 3: I said, oh, I spooked up a deer. You know,
37:30
Speaker 3: a deer was just inside the bushes over there. I said, oh, cool, Okay.
37:35
Speaker 3: Then I start panning my spotlight from my left and
37:39
Speaker 3: I started scanning it over to my right, and when
37:43
Speaker 3: I hit around the one and two o'clock position, I'd
37:47
Speaker 3: stopped because all of a sudden, what I heard next
37:51
Speaker 3: just outside that tree line was something very large and
37:55
Speaker 3: very heavy, and without doubt it was on two feet,
37:58
Speaker 3: because what I heard next was footsteps. Every step it
38:02
Speaker 3: took had a crunch and a thump behind it. And
38:05
Speaker 3: when I heard that, I'm gonna tell you, my heart
38:10
Speaker 3: started thumping real hard, and I felt like it was
38:12
Speaker 3: coming up in my throat. What the hell was? I
38:16
Speaker 3: started backing up while the spotlight's still putting in that direction,
38:20
Speaker 3: and with my offosite hand, I'm reaching down to my
38:22
Speaker 3: belt loop because my keys hanging there, making sure my
38:25
Speaker 3: vehicle's unlocked, you know, hitting the key, yeah, and I'm
38:31
Speaker 3: backing up and looking behind me make sure I'm not
38:34
Speaker 3: going to walk into the dish by the entrance of
38:36
Speaker 3: my you know camp, and I started walking back, and
38:39
Speaker 3: by the time I got back into camp, I asked,
38:43
Speaker 3: you know, after throwing a log oritude in the fire,
38:45
Speaker 3: I was like, I actually instantly just calmed right back down,
38:49
Speaker 3: you know, because I was standing there and thinking about
38:54
Speaker 3: what I just heard, and I was like, whatever that was,
38:58
Speaker 3: if it meant any harm to me, it would have
39:00
Speaker 3: been out. I mean, it had every chance and an
39:04
Speaker 3: opportunity to come stack me like a football player, you know,
39:07
Speaker 3: right when I heard every step was heavy and crunching
39:11
Speaker 3: and thumping whatever it stepped on. I mean I heard
39:15
Speaker 3: those footsteps, you know, probably for maybe ten seconds. You know,
39:20
Speaker 3: it was heavy enough to hear whatever it was. And
39:24
Speaker 3: you know, I'm just thinking that again that I've had
39:28
Speaker 3: a lot of experiences with bears, some close, some distance.
39:33
Speaker 3: I know what a bear sounds like. A bear is
39:34
Speaker 3: very well because of the paddy underfeet. Yeah, unless it
39:37
Speaker 3: right next to you, you know, you're not going to
39:39
Speaker 3: hear them like that. This was gurthy. This was had
39:43
Speaker 3: heavyweight on it, and it was bipedal, and it just
39:49
Speaker 3: it shook me, It really did. It shook me. But
39:51
Speaker 3: again I call him right back down, and again I
39:56
Speaker 3: came to the realization it didn't mean armed him, you know.
40:00
Speaker 3: I mean, if it was dangerous, I think it could
40:03
Speaker 3: have came out after me. Now, after this situation, it
40:07
Speaker 3: gotten thinking. I started thinking back to twenty fourteen, right,
40:12
Speaker 3: you know, just prior to our experience in twenty fourteen
40:16
Speaker 3: and this experience in twenty fifteen, there was a deer
40:20
Speaker 3: president prior to having that experience. One of the things
40:25
Speaker 3: I questioned to this day was did we interrupt something? Yeah,
40:29
Speaker 3: it's in theory that bigfoot fees off of deer. Did
40:33
Speaker 3: we interrupt the hunt? Because I keep asking myself that.
40:38
Speaker 3: I mean, I believe that's a possibility. I mean, I
40:41
Speaker 3: can't prove that. But it was deer president prior to
40:45
Speaker 3: both situations, you know, so I wonder, I'll say, you know,
40:49
Speaker 3: maybe I did. You know. I mean, I've been in
40:51
Speaker 3: those woods, that those same woods for years, and I
40:56
Speaker 3: had found numerous deer kills and remains of a full deer,
41:00
Speaker 3: the carcass and and this whole scalp will remains on numerouscasions. Now, yes,
41:06
Speaker 3: there's a lot of coyotes in there. I know coyotes
41:08
Speaker 3: will hunt and run down deer. I've seen coyotes kills
41:12
Speaker 3: that were pretty obvious. Sometimes I wonder what some of
41:16
Speaker 3: these deer killed something else, or then again some of
41:22
Speaker 3: them some like three three of the deer kills I ever,
41:27
Speaker 3: kind of came across the snouts were ripped out. I'm
41:31
Speaker 3: always wondering, what the heck does that. You know. Some
41:33
Speaker 3: people say that's the work of a mountain lion maybe,
41:36
Speaker 3: but mountain lions, from my understanding, always goes towards the neck,
41:41
Speaker 3: I mean the throat or the back of the neck.
41:42
Speaker 3: I don't know. So what's grabbing them by the snout
41:46
Speaker 3: and ripping the snout saw?
41:47
Speaker 1: You know?
41:48
Speaker 3: You know, so that's kind of been mysterious. I've been
41:51
Speaker 3: kind of looking at researching that for a long time,
41:53
Speaker 3: you know. But yeah, that was back again twenty fourteen.
42:01
Speaker 3: It was a lot.
42:02
Speaker 1: It's a lot because the thing that people say, you know,
42:04
Speaker 1: like so you're you're you're a woodsman, You're always out
42:07
Speaker 1: there in the outdoors, and for someone to be out
42:09
Speaker 1: in the woods and doing what you're doing and then
42:11
Speaker 1: doing it, you know, you're basically your your whole life
42:14
Speaker 1: to all of a sudden to be struck by fear
42:17
Speaker 1: of something that's unknown to you. And like a lot
42:20
Speaker 1: of people have the inability to even go back in
42:23
Speaker 1: you know, uh yeah, and and and you know, I
42:26
Speaker 1: try to, you know, conceptualize this for people who are
42:29
Speaker 1: non believers, because I also believe the Patterson Gimlin film
42:33
Speaker 1: is truth enough for anybody to see. Just if you
42:38
Speaker 1: zoom in and see the leg wiggle when it looks
42:41
Speaker 1: to its right and it steps and it takes that
42:44
Speaker 1: that right foot and kind of turns it a little bit,
42:46
Speaker 1: and you see the leg hit the ground and it jiggle.
42:48
Speaker 1: That's no costume. Yeah, that's no constant. I talked to M. K. Davis,
42:53
Speaker 1: the guy who like who also stabilized. Oh yeah, I've
42:55
Speaker 1: spoken to him on multiple occasions. Is pretty well good
42:59
Speaker 1: quaint of mine. And he actually showed me the braid.
43:02
Speaker 1: There's a braid and the hair if you look, there's braided.
43:04
Speaker 1: There's a braid, the six inge braid. It's huge, right
43:07
Speaker 1: over top of the right right or left eye, there's
43:10
Speaker 1: a braid. Yeah, I'll send you the picture.
43:11
Speaker 3: If you want, Oh yeah, please do That's I observed
43:15
Speaker 3: a lot of his what he presented. I don't know
43:19
Speaker 3: if I've ever seen that one before.
43:20
Speaker 1: I think it's like that's frame number three fifty something
43:24
Speaker 1: or other. I'll see if I can find it. It's
43:25
Speaker 1: on one of my one of the podcasts I've done
43:27
Speaker 1: with him, and I was like, there's a freaking braid
43:29
Speaker 1: on its hairy and he goes, yeah. I said, what
43:31
Speaker 1: kind of costume designer would he? I mean, the Planet
43:33
Speaker 1: of the Apes was going on back then, but what
43:35
Speaker 1: would who would make you think, oh, let's put a
43:37
Speaker 1: braid on this thing. But what I'm trying to get
43:40
Speaker 1: to is like you know, people who go out in
43:41
Speaker 1: the woods and they go, I don't believe it. It's like, okay, fine,
43:44
Speaker 1: but let's say in North America in the last fifty years,
43:47
Speaker 1: we'll say, let's just say, theoretically, even though I believe
43:50
Speaker 1: it's a hell of a lot more, there's been a
43:52
Speaker 1: thousand encounters. Okay, just if you're looking at it statistically,
43:56
Speaker 1: if one of them is true, and what's the possibility
43:59
Speaker 1: that none of them are true? You know what I mean,
44:02
Speaker 1: it's zero, right, The possibility that one of them drew
44:04
Speaker 1: is much more higher. So therefore it exists, you know,
44:09
Speaker 1: and then for you know, an avid hunter or a
44:11
Speaker 1: woodsman like yourself, and you have a bit of fear
44:14
Speaker 1: in you and you're looking at something and then that
44:16
Speaker 1: swaying motion that seems to be a very common occurrence
44:21
Speaker 1: that is reported.
44:23
Speaker 3: Uh.
44:24
Speaker 1: I think you ran into a family out there. I
44:25
Speaker 1: don't know if they were hunting or not. You know,
44:27
Speaker 1: that's kind of hard to determine. But you definitely see something,
44:29
Speaker 1: that's for sure, and then you're going, yeah, that's the
44:32
Speaker 1: other things and stuff that's quite Yeah.
44:34
Speaker 3: I have found tracks over the year throughout the whole
44:37
Speaker 3: general area. But like I said, the day after when
44:40
Speaker 3: we did the Hikerbers and we were looking for tracks
44:42
Speaker 3: in that Tricla area, which we did not find.
44:46
Speaker 1: Ye, honest, I like that. I prefer that.
44:50
Speaker 3: So. Yeah, another thing you brought up, you know, referring
44:53
Speaker 3: to the Patison footage, and you brought a plan of
44:56
Speaker 3: the eight That's one of the fun facts that I
44:59
Speaker 3: bring up in comparison to you know, trying to show
45:04
Speaker 3: the credibility of the Patterson footage. Yeah, compared to what
45:08
Speaker 3: was available back then. You know, the first plan of
45:11
Speaker 3: the age wasn't released from March twenty eighth and nineteen
45:13
Speaker 3: sixty eight, that's when that that was first released. Yeah,
45:17
Speaker 3: a year later, right, But but look at their everybody
45:22
Speaker 3: that knows Plane of the Ages, the original movie franchise,
45:25
Speaker 3: we all know, look at what they had. They were
45:28
Speaker 3: They made them look like eight faces. You know, that
45:32
Speaker 3: was the most that Hollywood had back there. You know.
45:35
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can see the breast swinging, dude, you can
45:37
Speaker 1: see the boobs moving, and you look at it.
45:40
Speaker 3: Not to mention the muscle protrusion on the leg.
45:44
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know herdia. Yeah, you can see a hernia yep,
45:47
Speaker 1: yeahactly that that muscle movement. I was like, yeah, you know,
45:51
Speaker 1: I'm looking. Okay, I'm gonna go with you guys. I'll
45:54
Speaker 1: be open. And when I seen that muscle wiggle from
45:56
Speaker 1: the freaking calf muscle all the way up through the
45:59
Speaker 1: thigh passed to knee and you see it go, we go,
46:01
Speaker 1: like you know, any any athlete, and this is a female, clearly,
46:06
Speaker 1: you just go, dude, how can I not? How would
46:10
Speaker 1: you fake that? And then you have to go. They
46:12
Speaker 1: were seven miles up this creek up in Bluff Creek
46:16
Speaker 1: in California, seven miles up there. Why on Earth, would
46:19
Speaker 1: anybody body be up there?
46:20
Speaker 3: Oh?
46:20
Speaker 1: They faked it together. Oh, Bob Gimlin this and you
46:24
Speaker 1: know Patterson that No. Actually m K. Davis went through
46:29
Speaker 1: because that original film that they put out was initially
46:32
Speaker 1: made to make it look like it's not real, to
46:34
Speaker 1: make you question yourself. So this this byes. But he actually,
46:38
Speaker 1: because there's copies of a copy of a copy, he
46:41
Speaker 1: actually was able to follow it all the way back
46:43
Speaker 1: to uh, his his his his his widow widower from him, yeah, widow. Yeah,
46:54
Speaker 1: and she's like they had it in the garage or something.
46:57
Speaker 1: It was like the closest that he could get. And
47:00
Speaker 1: he looked at it, stabilized it, and he was like,
47:02
Speaker 1: oh my god, dude. So he actually took a picture
47:04
Speaker 1: of that thing. I'll see if I can find it
47:07
Speaker 1: and I'll screenshot it and send it to you or whatever.
47:09
Speaker 1: And he's like, yeah, look at the brain. I was like,
47:11
Speaker 1: oh my god, it's so obvious, and I was blown
47:14
Speaker 1: away by it. It's and the fence climber video. Have
47:17
Speaker 1: you ever seen the fence climber video for.
47:18
Speaker 3: KB Oh yeah, I've seen that multiple gun.
47:20
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of my favorite bits of footage ever.
47:23
Speaker 1: And then there's also the one where it's picking up
47:26
Speaker 1: its baby and walking. That's also another incredible one. They're
47:29
Speaker 1: hard to get the they're hard to get videotapes of.
47:32
Speaker 1: They seem to affect people's like cameras in any type
47:36
Speaker 1: of electrical equipment.
47:39
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know on a number of occasions where people
47:42
Speaker 3: say they've had experiences where there their battery's going dead
47:46
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. Now we've with a recent activity
47:49
Speaker 3: in a whole different era that me and my group
47:51
Speaker 3: have ban that's something we've been experiencing.
47:55
Speaker 1: Okay, talk about it.
47:58
Speaker 3: Well, we've been working this area for a while now,
48:02
Speaker 3: and some of us we've been able to capture and
48:04
Speaker 3: document on film because I am actually filming during these
48:07
Speaker 3: group camp outs that we're doing, and a lot of
48:10
Speaker 3: what we're doing now is going towards a new film
48:12
Speaker 3: series that I'm working on. And so you know, we're
48:16
Speaker 3: not scripted, and when I film stuff, none of us
48:18
Speaker 3: is scripted. None of this is whatever. What you see
48:21
Speaker 3: is what you get because you know, we're out there
48:23
Speaker 3: having a good time camping and having them you know,
48:25
Speaker 3: enjoying ourselves at camp. But we go out during we
48:29
Speaker 3: do some daytime exploring we like going out at night time.
48:32
Speaker 3: Night time is usually all the cool stuff tends to happen.
48:36
Speaker 3: But so one of the yeah, so one of the
48:39
Speaker 3: things that we do. You know, we always have our equipment.
48:43
Speaker 3: We're always fully charged before we go out. Our radios.
48:48
Speaker 3: You know, we've been having issues with radios going dead,
48:52
Speaker 3: you know, like we'll have people at base camp and
48:55
Speaker 3: the rest of us will go out on foot. Uh,
48:58
Speaker 3: you know, brand new radios that are fully charged, like
49:01
Speaker 3: going dead and then coming back on afterwards. Who. Yeah,
49:06
Speaker 3: We've had uh, my buddy David over where all his
49:10
Speaker 3: equipment is, uh, you know, fifteen twenty feet from where
49:13
Speaker 3: his tent set up where he keeps this equipment. He
49:16
Speaker 3: was in there and all of a sudden, his MP
49:17
Speaker 3: three player turns on by itself. Like what the heck
49:21
Speaker 3: is doing that? Yeah, you know, he's not even touching
49:23
Speaker 3: it and it's turning on completely by itself. So other
49:28
Speaker 3: things have taken place where we would work our way
49:33
Speaker 3: up to this one. Ear there's another open area where
49:36
Speaker 3: it's considered a campsite. David's action camera it's like a GoPro.
49:43
Speaker 3: It's a different brand, but his go his GoPro. He
49:47
Speaker 3: he has it on his chest and he's recording the
49:49
Speaker 3: whole time. We're walking through everywhere.
49:51
Speaker 1: Right right, Scott Carpenter.
49:56
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm starting to get in the habit the
50:00
Speaker 3: use mine, you know, Yeah, I need to do that.
50:06
Speaker 3: I only have my facing forward because you know, I'm
50:08
Speaker 3: not always looking front him, I'm always looking everywhere else
50:11
Speaker 3: but right right right exactly. Well, one of the things
50:19
Speaker 3: it was probably uh, it was the next day after
50:22
Speaker 3: we got uh, you know, we had got back to
50:24
Speaker 3: camp and Dave's going through his video footage and everything,
50:28
Speaker 3: and he calls us in there. He wants us to
50:31
Speaker 3: listen to what Aladio picked up, and we don't know
50:35
Speaker 3: if it's an interference and not what we get into detail.
50:37
Speaker 3: He explains it, and we have a couple of others
50:39
Speaker 3: that are familiar with those type of sounds try to
50:41
Speaker 3: explain what it could be, but it doesn't add up.
50:45
Speaker 3: But he picks up this weird static buzz sound, like
50:49
Speaker 3: what the heck is that? And it was the oddest
50:52
Speaker 3: thing because it wasn't until we got help into this
50:54
Speaker 3: particular area. Now you know, it's just a weird sound.
50:59
Speaker 3: You know, Again we get into details. My uh buddy
51:02
Speaker 3: John that was with me after hearing it. He's like,
51:05
Speaker 3: he said, the tree work, and he did a lot
51:07
Speaker 3: of tree work around electrical wires and some of these
51:11
Speaker 3: heavy duty table that run through high wires on these
51:15
Speaker 3: exactly and he yeah, he learned what what some of
51:21
Speaker 3: the sounds of these wires made and he was explaining
51:24
Speaker 3: to us what exactly that sounds like. But what doesn't
51:27
Speaker 3: make sense is none of that's in this area. This area,
51:30
Speaker 3: there's no wires, electrical electricity that runs through this are
51:36
Speaker 3: primitive location, there's no you know, there's a lot of
51:40
Speaker 3: these heavy duty power lines that run through a lot
51:42
Speaker 3: of woods mountains, but none of that. And we looked
51:45
Speaker 3: into this, none of that runs through this area. So
51:49
Speaker 3: you know, which was strange. So now also, I mind
51:54
Speaker 3: you about several months earlier. Now this was all took
52:00
Speaker 3: place back last September, Yeah, last September, but jumping way
52:05
Speaker 3: back to May. In the month of May is where
52:08
Speaker 3: we've seen that strange ball of light. To describe the
52:12
Speaker 3: best way to describe that ball light is your background cover.
52:16
Speaker 3: Look at the moon. It was a round ball light
52:19
Speaker 3: just like that, and it didn't project nothing around it,
52:23
Speaker 3: nor did it you know, it didn't project like a
52:26
Speaker 3: spotlight or a flashlight, and nor did it illuminate nothing
52:28
Speaker 3: around it. It was just a round ball of light, you know, now, David,
52:33
Speaker 3: he was just a few feet up in front of me.
52:34
Speaker 3: He's the first one that pointed out. He said, damn,
52:38
Speaker 3: it's a light over in the woods. And I walked
52:41
Speaker 3: over and said what d I seen it for a
52:43
Speaker 3: good few seconds or so. Then it was just it
52:46
Speaker 3: just went away. I pulled up a thermal and maybe
52:50
Speaker 3: thinking maybe somebody's over there in the woods, I put
52:54
Speaker 3: in my fermo started visit, you know, looking through there.
52:57
Speaker 3: There's nothing over there, nobody over there. He was like,
53:00
Speaker 3: stay right there. He walked up. He went quite away.
53:03
Speaker 3: He walked in pure darkness, without a light on, and
53:08
Speaker 3: pulled out his thermal, started looking and scanning the area
53:11
Speaker 3: from a different angle. You know. He never picked up
53:13
Speaker 3: up either. We stayed there. I stayed ubserving it, like
53:17
Speaker 3: maybe somebody's hiding over there. You know.
53:19
Speaker 1: It's like, all right, just messing with you guys and ship.
53:21
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, right, but it was all thick. It was
53:24
Speaker 3: really thick in there, Like, what the heck, where'd that
53:26
Speaker 3: light come from?
53:28
Speaker 1: I haven't seen a ball of light, but in my cabin,
53:31
Speaker 1: and I own ten acres of the woods here in
53:34
Speaker 1: yukatam Peninsul in the jungle here in Mexico, and I've
53:37
Speaker 1: seen yeah, dude crazy, I had COVID. Bro, you ain't
53:41
Speaker 1: gonna put me into my house ever again. Uh that's
53:44
Speaker 1: why I moved from Germany.
53:45
Speaker 3: Bro.
53:45
Speaker 1: I came down here. People go, oh, you're not going
53:48
Speaker 1: to do that yet. I pulled up steaks and bounced
53:50
Speaker 1: and I was like, liberty. Liberty is very important to me.
53:53
Speaker 3: Uh.
53:54
Speaker 1: Former US Army soldier, you know, I'm fucking I'm out
53:56
Speaker 1: of here. And it happened to be twice. One time
54:00
Speaker 1: it was above my daughter's hammock. And it's like fence
54:03
Speaker 1: to fence then. But uh, we've got a screening up
54:05
Speaker 1: for mosquitos because it's a really bad Here's like five
54:08
Speaker 1: different species here floating that I've seen myself amongst jaguars
54:12
Speaker 1: and snakes and scorpions and all that shit. And if
54:16
Speaker 1: you see this light, and it's like fucking it's not
54:18
Speaker 1: a ball of light, but it's like projected on this metal,
54:21
Speaker 1: like this corrugated roof ceiling, and and uh it's like
54:25
Speaker 1: like someone shine a light through a fish tank, so
54:27
Speaker 1: it's like bluish and white with the ripples in it
54:29
Speaker 1: kind of like that, kind of like that, and then
54:31
Speaker 1: it's like kind of moving a little bit. And then
54:33
Speaker 1: I go to see where like someone's in my you know,
54:35
Speaker 1: shining a fucking flashlight, and I look down to see
54:38
Speaker 1: where the source. And maybe my daughter had a flashlight
54:40
Speaker 1: and she went to the bathroom. I don't know. And
54:42
Speaker 1: I look and then and it's I don't see any source.
54:45
Speaker 1: I look back up. It's gone. Happened to me again
54:47
Speaker 1: about a week later on the wall next to me,
54:49
Speaker 1: and I've seen that. And then I looked again. Uh,
54:52
Speaker 1: just after I had to take a snake out because
54:55
Speaker 1: he was inter eating ants and shit. But I didn't
54:57
Speaker 1: know if he was poisonous or not, so I had
54:58
Speaker 1: to take care of that. Yeah, seriously, bro, I laid
55:03
Speaker 1: back in the hammock that I'm hearing voices behind me
55:06
Speaker 1: in the woods. Yeah, yeah, dude, this is this is
55:10
Speaker 1: This place is spooky.
55:10
Speaker 3: Bro.
55:11
Speaker 1: People go, oh, yeah, you can. You can think it
55:12
Speaker 1: as wild. So it is. It is a weird occurrence
55:16
Speaker 1: when you're in the middle of nowhere. I mean, the
55:17
Speaker 1: only thing I got out there is I got some
55:19
Speaker 1: solar power and the only thing that does is in
55:21
Speaker 1: the nighttime is run like the freezers and ship you know,
55:23
Speaker 1: a couple of lights. That's that's it, you know. And
55:27
Speaker 1: so I'm like, what the hell is that? And then
55:28
Speaker 1: you know, I've talked to people and they have some
55:30
Speaker 1: there's some weird things down here, like some uh you know. Uh,
55:34
Speaker 1: there's a thing called lushes down here, which is like
55:36
Speaker 1: these little elementals that that the Mayans. So it's this
55:40
Speaker 1: is Mayan country that kind of yeah, to like protect
55:45
Speaker 1: the corn and stuff here, to protect their property against
55:47
Speaker 1: other Mayan nations and stuff because they're like city states
55:50
Speaker 1: and uh so there they throw rocks, which I've had
55:53
Speaker 1: happened to me before, and they do they're like kind
55:55
Speaker 1: of mischievous. So it is a I'm just trying to like,
55:59
Speaker 1: you know, connect with you, is show you to tell you,
56:01
Speaker 1: like I haven't seen an orb, uh, but I have
56:04
Speaker 1: seen lights. And when you're in the woods and you
56:06
Speaker 1: see something like that, it is very odd. Yeah.
56:10
Speaker 3: Yeah, we don't know we want to call this an
56:14
Speaker 3: orb because I mean it was stationary. It wasn't moving
56:17
Speaker 3: like a lot of other people described when they see
56:19
Speaker 3: an orb. I see it floating, the movement, but this
56:21
Speaker 3: was very stationary, like it was dead still and never moved,
56:25
Speaker 3: you know, like I said, when it just I don't know,
56:29
Speaker 3: I'm trying to think of the best way to describe
56:30
Speaker 3: the way it just went out. It's like it's like
56:32
Speaker 3: it was as if it was a light and somebody
56:36
Speaker 3: just turned off switch on. Yeah, exactly, exactly. Now, David,
56:43
Speaker 3: David probably give a little bit better details on some
56:47
Speaker 3: of the information. He's really good about that. Yeah, And
56:51
Speaker 3: that's because you know, he's his observations and his the
56:54
Speaker 3: way he described knows how to give details. I guess
56:57
Speaker 3: that comes from his military. He's retired from the army
57:00
Speaker 3: and so law enforcement. So yeah, yeah, you.
57:07
Speaker 1: So before I get you up out of here, So
57:09
Speaker 1: before I get you out of here, is is there
57:11
Speaker 1: anything else you want to share? Could you tell me
57:13
Speaker 1: a little bit about your research organization where we can
57:16
Speaker 1: find you?
57:17
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah, I mean I'm not hard to find at all.
57:20
Speaker 3: I mean I'm all over social media. I have a
57:24
Speaker 3: main Facebook group on Facebook. It's the e C b
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Speaker 3: r O. We are the East Coast Bigfoot Researchers Organization. Again,
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Speaker 3: we're on Facebook. I had a website. I recently closed
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Speaker 3: the website because you know, I can't afford to keep
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Speaker 3: it up right now. So besides that, I do have
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Speaker 3: a YouTube channel. I try to keep that very active.
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Speaker 3: I have a lot of my uh. I do a
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Speaker 3: lot of eyewitness interviews right now. You can find that
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Speaker 3: on my YouTube channel, Bigfoot Zone e C B r O.
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Speaker 3: One of the things to be on the lookout for
57:58
Speaker 3: future reference. UH. The independent film series that we're doing.
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Speaker 3: It's a bigfoot documentary series of our research and any
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Speaker 3: kind of experiences we have. We document it to the
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Speaker 3: best of our ability. It's unscripted. The first one, it's
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Speaker 3: called Bigfoot Explorers. Okay, that will be streaming, so I
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Speaker 3: even have a few of them on my YouTube channel
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Speaker 3: because we're waiting for the streaming services to finally get
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Speaker 3: them up and going, which we'll be streaming on a
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Speaker 3: streaming network. Another one I just started, just two episodes
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Speaker 3: I have filmed and I already submitted to my film
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Speaker 3: distribution guy. Eventually that will be on the stream of service.
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Speaker 3: That's going to be called Gone Road Bigfoot Adventures with
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Speaker 3: Daniel bin Mo. That's just just strictly me.
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Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, give me all those give me. You
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Speaker 1: need to give me all those links, dudes, so I
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Speaker 1: can post them in the bottom of the video. I
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Speaker 1: haven't gotten sure way I can put them in there.
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Speaker 1: People just say, oh, let's see what he's about. Click click,
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Speaker 1: and then you get the.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, now gone, rogue. I haven't. I haven't
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Speaker 3: put them on facebo on YouTube. I'm leaving them alone.
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Speaker 3: The only reason I put the other episodes of Big
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Speaker 3: Bigfoot Explorers on YouTube is because that was actually supposed
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Speaker 3: to start streaming in October and it's something messed up
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Speaker 3: with the streaming network. So I was like, you know what,
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Speaker 3: I've been promoting the heck out of it. I'm gonna
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Speaker 3: just put on my YouTube channel and let them go
59:25
Speaker 3: from there. But find on my YouTube channel is you'll see.
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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I have podcasts on my own with me
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Speaker 3: and my group, you know. But I also have been
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Speaker 3: uploading my one on one interviews with eyewitnesses here in Virginia.
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Speaker 3: I got a gentleman up in Pennsylvania I have yet
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Speaker 3: to meet up with, and two others here in Virginia.
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Speaker 3: Uh there's more coming, so yeah, there's uh he doesn't
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Speaker 3: look out for that, but again, check out the interviews
59:51
Speaker 3: and eyewitness accounts on my YouTube channel, Bigfoot Zone E
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Speaker 3: C B r O. But yeah, again I'm the hard Fine.
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Speaker 3: If you're looking me up or even do a Google
1:00:02
Speaker 3: search with my name is Daniel Benoit E C b
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Speaker 3: r Oh. We'll look up Daniel bin Waugh and big
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Speaker 3: I mean, there you go. You'll find something about me there.
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Speaker 1: So ben w For the audio listeners out there is
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Speaker 1: B E N O. I T I appreciate you coming on.
1:00:17
Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on to night and speaking with you. Man,
1:00:19
Speaker 1: I really I really enjoyed.
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Speaker 3: It, absolutely absolutely, And if you ever want me on again,
1:00:24
Speaker 3: there's a lot more get into you.
1:00:26
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, maybe we'll do I'd like to set you
1:00:29
Speaker 1: up with a live man, we'll do a live maybe
1:00:30
Speaker 1: next month. Is it's normally on Fridays. Would you be
1:00:33
Speaker 1: into that, like Friday evenings?
1:00:34
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, Friday would be best. And I'm I don't
1:00:36
Speaker 3: I'm off on Friday's the weekends.
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Speaker 1: Oh that's perfect, that's perfect, six forty five in the
1:00:40
Speaker 1: Eastern and we have people come on and talk to you.
1:00:42
Speaker 1: And then what I normally do is I'll have this
1:00:44
Speaker 1: This video will be in the end of this month.
1:00:47
Speaker 1: Somewhere at the beginning of next month, and then maybe
1:00:50
Speaker 1: a week or two after. The way, people can kind
1:00:52
Speaker 1: of digest what you're talking about to day, and then
1:00:54
Speaker 1: when you come on they can have questions ready for you.
1:00:56
Speaker 1: You just go ahead and feel a couple of those
1:00:57
Speaker 1: and we just talk.
1:00:59
Speaker 3: It's quite fu And if you're okay, would you be
1:01:01
Speaker 3: okay like me? And if I bring one uh my
1:01:05
Speaker 3: buddy David him and of course like you, would only
1:01:09
Speaker 3: have to send them one link. They sit in together
1:01:11
Speaker 3: under on their Yeah, it's a good breat on details
1:01:15
Speaker 3: and he knows he could explain a lot more than
1:01:18
Speaker 3: I can. He's good.
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Speaker 1: That's perfectly fine. I'll give you the link and you
1:01:20
Speaker 1: just go ahead and give it to David and his
1:01:22
Speaker 1: wife and then you guys. Then I can have three
1:01:24
Speaker 1: screens up and we can bounce it around. I'll go
1:01:26
Speaker 1: ahead and send you a couple of dates and we'll.
1:01:27
Speaker 3: Set it up in okay, yeah, actually yeah, because as
1:01:30
Speaker 3: long as they know in advance, because they used to
1:01:32
Speaker 3: love jumping on mine. I told him, they know I've
1:01:35
Speaker 3: been taking a break on mine, so you.
1:01:37
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, it's it's quite. It's quite. It's quite a
1:01:41
Speaker 1: lot of work where people don't realize all this podcasting stuff.
1:01:43
Speaker 1: But we're doing well. Working.
1:01:45
Speaker 3: I'm always exhausted, and plus I've been taking advantage of
1:01:48
Speaker 3: any free time I do get if it's not with
1:01:50
Speaker 3: my grandson and I'm out fielding.
1:01:54
Speaker 1: Yeah, doing that American thing. Man. I really appreciate it. Man,
1:01:58
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on. Dude.
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Speaker 3: I appreciate hey, thank you for having me. This has
1:02:01
Speaker 3: been awesome.
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