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How An Elite Iowa Defense Will Challenge Ohio State's Offense · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to buck Eyes tomorrow morning for Thursday, October third.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, tom Or the Iowa game in two days,
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  Speaker 1: the game against Michigan in fifty eight days. They we're
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  Speaker 1: gonna skip what would normally be a let you hear
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  Speaker 1: directly from Ryan Day kind of show. You're gonna hear
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  Speaker 1: directly from Ohio State offensive coordinator Chip Kelly and defensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator Jim Knowles. Those guys both had a lot of
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  Speaker 1: really interesting things to say when we got a chance
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  Speaker 1: to talk to both of them earlier in the week.
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  Speaker 1: Wanted to let you hear a little bit from both
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  Speaker 1: of those guys. Obviously, you hear a ton from Ryan Day.
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  Speaker 1: There's certain players you hear from a bunch. We have
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  Speaker 1: not heard a ton from the coordinators this year. So
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna let you hear from both of those guys.
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  Speaker 1: Let's start with Chip Kelly. How is Chip Kelly liking
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  Speaker 1: how Will Howard is going through his progressions? Is he
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  Speaker 1: locking onto receivers too much or is he kind of
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  Speaker 1: going through and reading the defense the way he's supposed to.
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  Speaker 2: I think Will is doing a good job. I think
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  Speaker 2: there's always a growth with all of that. You know,
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  Speaker 2: sometimes it may be a newer route that had gone
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  Speaker 2: in and he doesn't have as many reps in the
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  Speaker 2: bank as he does with some of the other things
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  Speaker 2: that we've run since and of spring. You know, I think,
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  Speaker 2: but I think that every quarterback can improve, every coach
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  Speaker 2: can improve, every player can improve.
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  Speaker 3: I think it's this This is a growth game, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and how you develop.
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  Speaker 2: And I hope in game eight we're not playing like
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  Speaker 2: we played in game four, you know. I think it's
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  Speaker 2: as you continue to go on and start to add
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  Speaker 2: different elements and different things that are happening different opponents
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  Speaker 2: that that's always part of it. But the growth is
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  Speaker 2: how do you develop over the course of the season.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm pleased with where Will is right now, but
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  Speaker 2: that doesn't mean that he's arrived. I don't think you
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  Speaker 2: ever arrived in this game. I think every day you
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  Speaker 2: got to try to be just a little bit better
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  Speaker 2: than you were the day before. And that's that's what
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  Speaker 2: I love about Will though. That's kind of his mindset
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  Speaker 2: is how do I get a little bit better on
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  Speaker 2: how do I how do I improve, and how do
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  Speaker 2: I help this team win.
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  Speaker 1: When it comes to quarterbacks really seeing the field well,
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  Speaker 1: some guys do it and some guys don't. Is that
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  Speaker 1: something you can teach or is that something you either
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  Speaker 1: got it or you out.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think all guys have it, but I
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  Speaker 2: do think it can be developed, you know. I think
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  Speaker 2: for everybody, you know, it's it's no different than the
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  Speaker 2: first time you move in to a city. You're going
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  Speaker 2: to have to take a map out and try to
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  Speaker 2: figure out your GPS, like how do I get from
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  Speaker 2: point A to point B? And then after a while,
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  Speaker 2: why was I going this way? If I could have
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  Speaker 2: gone around, I would have been there a lot quicker,
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  Speaker 2: you know. So it's just part of the process that
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  Speaker 2: you go through when you're new and it's you know,
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  Speaker 2: you're trying to figure your way around and you need
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  Speaker 2: a map to look at. But after a while, you're
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  Speaker 2: got to figure lay the land and then you're a
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  Speaker 2: lot more comfortable in your environment. And the more comfortable
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  Speaker 2: will gets in our offense, I think, the more success
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  Speaker 2: we're going to have.
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  Speaker 1: Chip Kelly has what is known in the business as
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  Speaker 1: a good problem as the offensive coordinator of Ohio State,
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  Speaker 1: and that is, oh boyd, does he have a lot
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  Speaker 1: of really talented players who need to touch the football
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  Speaker 1: every game. So does he sort of figure that in
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  Speaker 1: when he's putting together his game plan that hey, I
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  Speaker 1: got to get these guys a certain number of touches
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  Speaker 1: or does that just kind of happen naturally.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think at times theoretically you can do that,
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  Speaker 2: but you also have to factor in what is the
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  Speaker 2: defense's decision on how they defended, how they decided to defend.
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  Speaker 2: You you know, we're not when people can say we're
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  Speaker 2: not gonna let you run the ball, well, then we
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  Speaker 2: have to throw the ball.
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  Speaker 3: So okay, you know, we're equal opportunities.
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  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you run the ball across the line,
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  Speaker 2: across the goal line or throw the ball across the
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  Speaker 2: goal and it still counts to six points. So you know,
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  Speaker 2: we're not caught up and it has to be totally
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  Speaker 2: balanced and fifty to fifty run pass or whatever it
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  Speaker 2: is it really is. It's indicative of what they're doing.
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  Speaker 2: And if we can kind of figure out what they're
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  Speaker 2: doing and get a really good beat of what they're
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  Speaker 2: trying to take away, then you are you know, and
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  Speaker 2: there's sometimes you plan things going into a game and saying, hey,
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  Speaker 2: if I was defending us, this is how I would
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  Speaker 2: do it, and then when you get into a game,
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  Speaker 2: they're like, they're not doing that, all right, Well, then
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  Speaker 2: we need to take advantage of that, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean. So we talk about it and we want
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  Speaker 2: to be balanced, and I think we're pretty good at
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  Speaker 2: distributing the ball through. But there are some games where
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  Speaker 2: the tight ends may catch the ball more than the
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  Speaker 2: running backs catch the ball. That's just the nature of
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  Speaker 2: how the game kind of expressed itself, you know. But
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  Speaker 2: there are we have specific plays where we think we're
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  Speaker 2: trying to get the ball home, but we're never going
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  Speaker 2: to force it. You know, if they're going to double
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  Speaker 2: cover a guy, then then they double covered a guy.
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  Speaker 2: If they've double covered him, then someone singled. And that's
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  Speaker 2: the beauty of having as many weapon as we have,
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  Speaker 2: as if you're going to double one guy, then that
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  Speaker 2: means somebody else isn't.
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  Speaker 3: You can't double them all.
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  Speaker 2: If they did, it's a penalty because they got too
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  Speaker 2: many guys on the field. So but when you have
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  Speaker 2: as many weapons as we have, I think that's that's
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  Speaker 2: always a bonus, and that's always a benefit.
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  Speaker 1: This has been a big adjustment this year for both
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  Speaker 1: Chip Kelly and Ryan Day. Day of course has been
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  Speaker 1: used to calling in the offense being in charge of that.
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  Speaker 1: This year he's a little more hands off. Chip Kelly, well,
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  Speaker 1: just last year he was a head coach. Now he's
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  Speaker 1: calling the offense. So four games into the season, how
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  Speaker 1: are things going with all of that.
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  Speaker 3: It's been smooth, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I think we're our guys have an understanding, you know,
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  Speaker 2: in terms of because we spend so much time together
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  Speaker 2: during the weeks of you know, how it's going to flow.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't think there's anything that has gone on
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  Speaker 2: in a game that's been a surprise like, hey, what
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  Speaker 2: was that? Like why do we do that? You know,
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  Speaker 2: there's a constant dialogue going on. But I when we're
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  Speaker 2: in a third and short situation, we only have four
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  Speaker 2: or five options on third and short.
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  Speaker 3: You're not make plays up at the time there.
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  Speaker 2: They're what you practice, what you've gone over, you know,
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  Speaker 2: because you want you're gonna call something that your players
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  Speaker 2: have a lot of confidence in running because they've they
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  Speaker 2: their confidence is based on their demonstrated ability of doing
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  Speaker 2: it in our training session.
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  Speaker 3: So I think it's been smooth.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 2: We we've we haven't really faced any a ton of
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  Speaker 2: adversity on the offensive side of the wall. So I
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  Speaker 2: think that's really when you know it's it'll show. But
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  Speaker 2: I'm confident that our communication systems and our protocols that
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  Speaker 2: we use right now are are are solid.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes you ask a question at a press conference and
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  Speaker 1: you have no idea where the answer is going to go.
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  Speaker 1: This is one of those times. What does Chip Kelly
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  Speaker 1: like better about being the offensive coordinator as compared to
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  Speaker 1: being the head coach?
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  Speaker 2: You can go to the bathroom between series if you
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  Speaker 2: have to.
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  Speaker 3: It's but the only difference, I think it's always kind
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  Speaker 3: of tough.
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  Speaker 2: Coach Coop can tell you that on the sideline, really
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  Speaker 2: difficult to say, Hey, I'm gonna leave, you know what
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  Speaker 2: I mean.
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  Speaker 3: But there's there's a bathroom upstairs by the booth.
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  Speaker 4: So if need be.
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  Speaker 1: This weekend, Chip Kelly and the Buckeyes have a very
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  Speaker 1: very stern test against the Iowa Hawkeys defense right number
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  Speaker 1: one in the nation by some of the advanced metrics
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  Speaker 1: and coached by Phil Parker, just a renowned guru of defense.
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  Speaker 1: He's been at Iowa for a long long time and
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  Speaker 1: they just always have a great defense. So what if
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  Speaker 1: the challenge of trying to outscheme someone like Phil Parker.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's not We're not trying to outscheme anybody.
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  Speaker 2: We're trying to put our players in positions where they
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  Speaker 2: can make place. I mean, anybody can draw a play
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  Speaker 2: up and say you should do this, you should do that.
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  Speaker 2: Then my question is, well, how many reps do you
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  Speaker 2: have it running it? You know, and do we feel
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  Speaker 2: really good because we've seen the four or five different
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  Speaker 2: ways they can defend that. So we're not trying to
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  Speaker 2: and you're not going to outscheme Phil Parker. You know,
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  Speaker 2: that's just I think maybe people think a little bit
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  Speaker 2: too much into that part is that these people rather
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  Speaker 2: head that people's number. This game has always been about
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  Speaker 2: the players and always will be about the players.
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  Speaker 3: So you know, who can really.
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  Speaker 2: Show up in those matchups and that's what this game's about.
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  Speaker 2: You know, this is a as good a defense as
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  Speaker 2: we talked about as we face, but there's gonna be
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  Speaker 2: a lot of one on one battles. You know, we
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  Speaker 2: have to win against their interior defensive linemen are outstanding,
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  Speaker 2: So that matchup with our center and guard against the
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  Speaker 2: two interior defensive linemen and the All American linebacker are
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  Speaker 2: a huge matchup, and then that comes down to just
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  Speaker 2: fundamental football.
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  Speaker 3: Do we block better than they get off a blox?
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  Speaker 3: You know?
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  Speaker 2: Can we give the quarterback enough time for our receivers
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  Speaker 2: to run the proper depth of their routes to get
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  Speaker 2: the ball thrown?
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  Speaker 3: Is the quarterback throwing the ball on time? Or is
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  Speaker 3: he holding the ball too long? You know, it's all
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  Speaker 3: of that.
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  Speaker 2: So, but we don't sit in there and dream up
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  Speaker 2: because you have a Jeremiah, or you have a mech
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  Speaker 2: or you have a queue or a tray that we
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  Speaker 2: should do this, this, and this. I think we're always
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  Speaker 2: trying to action went their strengths and play to it.
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  Speaker 2: But you have to look at all eleven when you're
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  Speaker 2: making those decisions, because hey, let's just throw it to him. Well,
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  Speaker 2: then how long are we going to protect for? You know,
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  Speaker 2: if Jeremiah is going to run a.
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  Speaker 3: Sixty our route?
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  Speaker 2: You know, I learned a long time ago every inch
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  Speaker 2: on a piece of paper is the second of protection.
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  Speaker 2: So can we protect for that long? Can we hold up?
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  Speaker 2: And now what are we going to do for that?
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  Speaker 2: We're going to keep eight guys in and protection, you know,
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  Speaker 2: I think there's a lot that goes into it, but
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  Speaker 2: I think the ability to have weapons at all spots
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  Speaker 2: makes the defense have to defend all those spots.
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  Speaker 3: So we're not trying.
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  Speaker 2: To specifically go to one or another. I think we're
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  Speaker 2: just trying to see how they deploy versus these formations
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  Speaker 2: and what their tendencies are, and then what are our
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  Speaker 2: best chances And then we got to go play, and
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  Speaker 2: then we got to go execute, because the scheming's done.
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  Speaker 2: Once the ball snap, you know, it's it's do our
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  Speaker 2: guys hold up longer in protection and do our receivers
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  Speaker 2: get to the right depths and as a quarterback deliver
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  Speaker 2: the ball on time to a location where the defender
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  Speaker 2: can't get his hands on it.
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  Speaker 1: Now to the other side of the ball. In Ohio
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  Speaker 1: State defensive coordinator Jim Knowles, the Buckeys are actually leading
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  Speaker 1: the nation in pressuring the quarterback without having to blitz,
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  Speaker 1: even though the sack totals aren't at the top of
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  Speaker 1: the the nation right now. So is Jim Noles satisfied
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  Speaker 1: with the pass rush.
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  Speaker 4: We're never satisfied, never satisfied, but we are.
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  Speaker 5: You know, they are executing what's called though, Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I think you know, we just we got to tighten
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  Speaker 5: up our coverage, you know, because we need that extra second,
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  Speaker 5: because the guys are the guys are getting there.
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  Speaker 1: That was one question about something with where the Buckeyes
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  Speaker 1: were nearer or at the top of the nation in
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  Speaker 1: some of the statistical categories. The start of the next
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  Speaker 1: question was about how they're leading the nation in the
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  Speaker 1: fewest points allowed. And Jim Knowles is going to jump
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  Speaker 1: in here, and then he has a little back and
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  Speaker 1: forth with Rob Aller of the Dispatch.
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  Speaker 5: There's two guys who said something about leading the nation, right,
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  Speaker 5: both of you guys get it?
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  Speaker 6: Rat poison?
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  Speaker 4: Still hearing?
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  Speaker 6: What's along with this defense? If you never had an EA?
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  Speaker 4: Who's I'm hearing? What what's wrong with it?
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  Speaker 6: Well? You're even saying that we could be better here?
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, well we could.
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  Speaker 6: Have you ever been knitted as much as you've been here?
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  Speaker 6: Your defense? Is that to be expected in a place
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  Speaker 6: like this.
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  Speaker 5: My father was pretty tough. He was a Philly cop.
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  Speaker 5: So I got more than nitpicked. I got knit whacked. Yeah,
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  Speaker 5: I'm used to it.
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  Speaker 6: What would it take to be satisfied? You said it's
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  Speaker 6: not satisfied?
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  Speaker 5: Zero points under one hundred yards of game four, turnover
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  Speaker 5: score twice on defense, and be fun.
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  Speaker 4: Then I'd be satisfied.
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  Speaker 1: You saw the Buckeyes play a bunch of that three
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  Speaker 1: linebacker look against Michigan State, taking Jordan Hancock off the
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  Speaker 1: field and putting a third linebacker on the field instead.
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  Speaker 1: So what does that bring to the defense?
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  Speaker 5: I like the fact you know that they that they
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  Speaker 5: all can work together. You know, when you have maybe
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  Speaker 5: two guys and a nickel, you know you're kind of
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  Speaker 5: in two different rooms. With the three linebackers, they're all
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  Speaker 5: in the same room and they can work together, and
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  Speaker 5: I think their understanding and processing is going very well.
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  Speaker 1: Well.
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  Speaker 4: We need to see better is tackling.
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  Speaker 5: You know, our linebackers need to continue to become better
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  Speaker 5: tacklers and particularly this week, knockback tacklers, right. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: these guys are the kings of in this running but
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  Speaker 5: turning a two yard gain into a four or five
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  Speaker 5: yard gain which then leads to second and five, which
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  Speaker 5: leads to third and two. You know, so we need
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  Speaker 5: to continue to work on our tackling and you know,
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  Speaker 5: with an attitude of knocking people back.
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  Speaker 1: We got a lot of comments on our postgame show
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  Speaker 1: about that three and by linebacker look. And we also
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  Speaker 1: got a lot of questions about the buck Eyes playing
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  Speaker 1: off not pressing with their corners, but playing off coverage
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  Speaker 1: more than they typically have in the past. So why
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  Speaker 1: do they like to do that?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean it's you know, the corners off press.
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  Speaker 5: I mean that's a constant thought, constant, a constant adjustment. Again,
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  Speaker 5: we're we're we've been solid on explosive plays, So I
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  Speaker 5: think you can't you can't forget that cause that wins games,
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  Speaker 5: you know, and sometimes on those big deep like you
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  Speaker 5: take a guy like Caleb Downs, who you know we
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  Speaker 5: activated Saturday, and you know we're gonna continue to activate
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  Speaker 5: him as we get into big time, uh big ten competition.
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  Speaker 5: You see how what he looks like when he's activated.
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  Speaker 5: What you don't see a lot is when he's not activated.
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  Speaker 5: How many times they just don't throw the ball deep,
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  Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Cause he's in the right
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  Speaker 5: place and on top of the routes and they don't
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  Speaker 5: even take those shots. Those shots aren't taken. So that's
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  Speaker 5: the same thing with the corners. It's like, you know,
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  Speaker 5: they answer to your questions, do we need to be
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  Speaker 5: pressed more. Yes, we do, and we need to keep
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  Speaker 5: we need to keep working that, working that in, but
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  Speaker 5: we got to balance it.
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