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This NEW Bill is an ATTACK on Bitcoin (IGNORE The Clarity Act) | EP 1513 · Simply Bitcoin

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  While everyone was. Distracted with the Clarity Act,
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  a few very interesting Bitcoin bills have been proposed and one
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  of them in particular it passed opens up a new attack on Bitcoin
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  that we have never seen before. The trap is being set and this
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  bill could introduce a backdoor takeover of the Bitcoin network
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  again in the likes of something we have never seen before.
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  Now the framing of a lot of these Bitcoin bills have been
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  very quote pro Bitcoin you know pro Bitcoin innovation in
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  America. Now, some of them have, in fact,
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  I would argue and from my perspective are generally pro
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  Bitcoin. You know, in particular, I
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  always mess this up, the American Reserve Modernization
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  Act, basically a rebrand of the Bitcoin Act that was just
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  reintroduced as a bill last week as well.
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  Obviously, the giant elephant in the room is the Clarity Act.
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  And I don't know, maybe we can give you guys a kind of a recent
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  update on the timetable, what's going on.
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  There's still a lot of confusion on when this is going to get
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  through. There's been a lot of things
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  that are going to be vying for that attention to get the
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  Clarity Act passed, but we're not going to be talking about
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  those today. Those are just the bills and the
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  regulatory clarity, the laws that are being proposed that are
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  getting all the headline. But one bill that was just
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  proposed has really kind of gone silent.
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  And I think it's setting a very dangerous precedent.
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  Now, obviously, we've seen a lot of bills proposed in the last,
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  what, year and a half or so, and many of them obviously do not
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  get passed. And many of them are definitely
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  framed as being extremely massive breaking news.
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  And in reality, they're kind of nothing burgers.
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  OK, So with that context in mind, let's look at what bill
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  we're talking about. And again, shouts out, hold on,
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  my thing's not working here. Am I frozen?
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  No, I think I'm good. Can you?
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  Can There you go. Am I sorry guys, We are having
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  issues over here. Anyways, the bill being proposed
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  again shouts out to the Rage. You guys know I've been a huge
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  fan of the Rage. I highly recommend you follow
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  them. They're doing incredible
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  journalism, in particular with the angle of protecting open
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  source developers and privacy and I guess for lack of better
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  terms, has more of the cypherpunk roots to it.
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  They are a little hardcore. I I will give you that they're
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  they're totally hardcore, but that's obviously why I like
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  them. So they tweeted this.
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  They go new minding America Act would put Bitcoin network at
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  risk. The minding America Act would
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  distort the overall economic incentives of the Bitcoin
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  network and capture US based miners in a situation where
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  dependence on associated loan or grant programs makes it
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  economically non viable for them to deny high government demand.
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  So essentially, and I'll, I'll break down the article, not the
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  whole article, but kind of just to meet potatoes, but
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  essentially this Mind in America Act is proposing government
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  subsidies to Bitcoin miners if they, you know, hit off a
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  checklist and they are basically with the branding, you know, TM
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  mined in America using American infrastructure and mining ASICS,
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  etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. I'll break that down more.
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  Anyways, effectively, the bill would turn miners into their own
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  surveillance teams collecting and reporting information to the
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  government in exchange for economic favoritism.
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  Written by Brian trolls AKA Shinobi.
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  So Shinobi quote tweeted this and and I'm not gonna you know,
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  rehash what was said in that post, but there is a little
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  interesting information in here and goes.
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  This bill is exactly how I would design and push a first step
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  towards stepping in as the government to capture and
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  distort the mining ecosystem. Open it an information
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  collection and reporting to the government preferential economic
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  treatment in the forms of grants, loans and even capital
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  gains exemptions for those that comply and zero thoughts given
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  for the burden that would put on mining companies and entities
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  all to slant and distort the economic incentives of the
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  system to favor those miners to domicile and establish
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  themselves in jurisdiction, thus exposing themselves to coercion
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  from the US government. So now obviously you're starting
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  to see, hey, maybe this is being framed as a pro Bitcoin, Bitcoin
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  mined in America bill. This is going to onshore Bitcoin
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  miners. It's going to attract Bitcoin
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  miners to the US. And then when you kind of break
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  it down, you're like, man, this, this is looking like a
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  monstrosity. Anyways, this bill would be a
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  complete disaster that starts us down the path of ultimately
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  attacking and undermining the proof of work ecosystem that
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  allows Bitcoin to function incredibly as a decentralized
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  and neutral system in the 1st place.
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  Now, before I go on more, excuse me, I know when we talk about
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  Bitcoin mining, it's really not the sexiest topic here and most
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  people tune out, but without the Bitcoin miners, without the
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  proof of work mechanisms, without the Bitcoin incentives
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  that got us here 17 years into this project, Bitcoin is
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  nothing. There's nothing there for us.
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  So it is very important for us to obviously be vigilant, be
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  aware of what is happening. And This is why we are obviously
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  highlighting this. It's not us trying to be click
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  bait and all that stuff that you guys yell at me every single
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  day. This is important stuff and we
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  try our best on this show to highlight what we think are not
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  only attack vectors, but what is, you know, relevant news and
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  recent events that are happening that we should all be aware of.
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  And sometimes when I do shows, I I have to talk about stories
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  that I know aren't going to be the most popular stories, but we
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  got to highlight them. OK, so anyways, let me go to the
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  rage article and we will break down exactly what's going on in
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  here. Again, mine in America Act would
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  put the Bitcoin network at risk a little hyperbolic, but I think
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  it's it's totally, totally true. And again, the bill would
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  effectively turn miners into their own surveillance teams,
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  collecting and reporting information to the government in
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  exchange for economic favoritism.
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  Again, as we always say on this show, the reason Bitcoin has
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  been working and continues to work is because of the aligned
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  incentives of Bitcoin where everyone is basically hold on,
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  sorry guys, I got like a hair in my throat.
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  The aligned incentives of Bitcoin basically force everyone
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  to not only do what's best for themselves, but further not be
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  able to do something that oversteps and hurts the Bitcoin
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  network at large. So going further, the Mind in
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  America act for 2026, introduced by Senator Cassidy of Louisiana
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  and Senator Lummus of Wyoming is the first instance of the United
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  States federal government addressing Bitcoin mining from a
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  national security perspective. Now I do want to pause here
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  because as you guys know, in the last couple of weeks, we have
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  been hearing a lot of conversations and a recent
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  narrative are surrounding Bitcoin in this national
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  security concerns. And we do have an interesting
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  guest joining us today. Guys.
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  I know you guys are going to love this, which we'll probably
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  chat about this later on in the show.
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  We got the one and only G Money Pepe coming on the show.
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  So you already know the end of the show is probably going to
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  get a little interesting and spicy.
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  Anyways, going back to this article, the bill establishes A
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  certification program requiring a phase out of foreign adversary
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  produced mining hardware, AKA China, and barring foreign
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  ownership in order to receive government grants, loans and
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  capital gains exemptions. Obviously they're subsidized or
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  proposing subsidizing American Bitcoin mining.
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  And I think the biggest kind of carrot or maybe it's a stick
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  here is the capital gains exemptions.
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  Obviously that's some of the things that I talk about here on
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  the show Instantly, it's Bitcoin should be treated as money.
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  You know, we, we don't get capital gains on holding dollars
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  and we don't get capital losses on holding dollars either.
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  So why is Bitcoin being treated differently?
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  And further, I saw another good interesting tweet this morning.
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  Well, really was more a sound bite, but it basically mentioned
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  that Bitcoin is the only commodity under the CFTC that is
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  taxed twice. Hence why I'm bringing it up in
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  this context is Bitcoin is being treated different currently in
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  terms of, you know, our tax liabilities here.
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  This is why I think that capital gains exemption clause here, or
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  at least proposal will most likely be the the biggest
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  attraction for people to follow this this mind in America Act if
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  it does get pushed through anyways.
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  It also seeks to explicitly codify a strategic Bitcoin
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  reserve and legislation following the EO or executive
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  order signed by Trump last year introducing financial incentives
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  for miners to sell their coins to the United States government.
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  Obviously, as we know, as we've been covering on this show, yes,
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  we have an executive order surrounding the strategic
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  Bitcoin reserve in the US, But as we've been reiterating, the
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  executive order is only as good as the president in the White
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  House, and that can obviously very clearly change.
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  So going further, this would establish A subsidy and
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  incentive framework that disproportionately benefits
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  quote certified miners in the United States, distorting the
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  overall economic incentives of the Bitcoin network and captures
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  US best miners in a situation where dependent on associated
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  loan or grant programs make it economically non viable for them
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  to deny government demands for further information and
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  monitoring. Going further, the bill proposes
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  capital gains exemptions for certified mining operations
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  keywords certified mining operations meaning pools or
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  miners who meet the program certification requirements who
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  sell quote certified Bitcoin, meaning Bitcoin mined by miners
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  certified under the Mine in America program to the United
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  States government for inclusion in the Strategic Bitcoin
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  Reserve. This is of course further
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  economic distortion of mining competitiveness by introducing
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  favorable benefits only to certain miners which improve
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  their profitability. It also, of course, creates
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  questions for bitcoins fungibility by giving only
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  certified coins a release from capital gains, making certified
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  coins more valuable for minors. It really, Yeah, yeah, right.
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  It really starts to make you at least go down maybe the more
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  tinfoil hat theory here where it's like we're going to have a
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  sanctioned by the US government chain and then a dark market,
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  unsanctioned, chained. And that's, you know, going to
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  be a fork eventually. And this is something we have
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  been talking about in particular.
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  We mentioned this very thing in 2024 when we got the BlackRock
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  ETF. Remember that one little caveat
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  that BlackRock basically said, hey, we do not, you know, say
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  that we will choose the right chain here.
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  We can choose whatever chain we want.
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  And now we're starting to see, it's like, OK, maybe our worst
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  fears were, are are now kind of becoming true.
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  But you want to add here, Nico, 'cause I do want to read a
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  little more. Oops, sorry, sorry.
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  This goes exactly to what I was talking about on yesterday's
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  show about like the fact that did we get?
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  No, no, I'm still here. Yeah.
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  So that's exactly what we were talking about on yesterday's
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  show where we were basically making the case.
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  G money's here early. G money's in here early.
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  Let we'll we'll bring them in. Let's bring them in this.
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  Is exactly what I was talking about yesterday when I said that
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  there's like the current system where you essentially have
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  governments sanctioning other governments.
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  I would make the argument that it's not necessarily compatible
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  with an open monetary protocol where you can't censor anything,
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  right. So you know, Russia's going to
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  be mining Bitcoin, Iran's going to be mining Bitcoin.
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  They are mining Bitcoin and Russia and Iran are use are
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  looking at Bitcoin to say, hey, like this is how we can receive
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  money from overseas. And then you can see how
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  politicians already in the UK and in the United States,
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  Elizabeth Warren already kind of like weaponizing that.
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  They're saying like, look like our, our adversaries are worst
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  enemies of the United States of America are receiving money in
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  Bitcoin. And you can kind of see how this
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  is a back door into that, right? Because if they start
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  incentivizing American mining companies, like we saw this with
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  the Mara block, right, a couple years ago.
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  It was like 3 or 4 years ago where basically Mara mined a
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  block. And this is like first.
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  Fax sanction. Block then this is the first
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  OFAC approved block. And look, that works to some
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  extent in the sense that like yes, the the largest mining
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  pools are American and then they technically can and maybe they
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  they are currently sanctioning certain transactions.
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  But that doesn't necessarily mean that the network itself is
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  censoring transactions because all it takes is 1 block.
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  That isn't necessarily, you know, playing by those rules.
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  Let's say it's a block that's found by a Russian miner, you
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  know, for for certain transactions to be included into
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  the blockchain. So the the best that they could
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  do is slow down certain transactions, but they can't
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  outright ban them. I think where it gets kind of
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  scary into discussions is like where they can essentially start
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  to push some of these mining pools and BlackRock, right,
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  because they have such a huge economic incentive to basically
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  say, hey, you know what, we're going to actually fork Bitcoin
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  in its entirety so that the entirety of this fork is OFAC
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  compliant, right? And This is why we talked so
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  much about running your own Bitcoin nodes.
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  We went through this as a community, as a protocol during
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  the fork wars, right? Like where essentially the most
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  powerful mining consortium in the world tried to change the
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  rules of Bitcoin, right? They tried to make, I think it
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  was bigger blocks, right, which again would increase the barrier
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  to entry for most people. Most people wouldn't be able to
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  run their own nodes at home because the resource
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  requirements would be higher, right?
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  And that leads to the centralization of Bitcoin.
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  I think Jeff Boots quote resonates the most right.
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  Bitcoin wins if it stays decentralized and secure.
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  And with this backdoor proposal, you could see how it potentially
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  can lead to a situation where it doesn't fully become
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  decentralized, where the largest players are the ones actually
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  controlling the rules and changing the rules of the
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  protocol. And you can see how that leads
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  to the capture of Bitcoin, right?
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  So you can kind of see that slippery slope.
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  Now, is this being done on purpose?
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  I don't know. Is this being done with like
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  good intentions? Perhaps.
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  But the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
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  And you could see how many times were like, the best example was
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  there was a bit proposed, everyone got super excited, and
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  then that led to ordinals, right?
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  So there's the law of unintended consequences.
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  If you change Bitcoin, there is going to be unintended
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  consequences to that, which you might not see when you propose
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  that said change, right? So you can definitely see how
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  this is a back door to potentially capture the bit,
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  capture the network through economic incentives, which is
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  quite scary to say the least. But I want to get G money's
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  opinion on this. G Money, welcome back to the
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  show. We are on YouTube, my friend.
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  I know you're used to, I know, I know you're used to, you know,
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  rumble only type of broadcasting.
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  But what's your take on this? Is this like a a conspiracy
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  theory? Are we seeing things that are
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  not there? Yeah.
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  What's your take, man? Because this just leads this.
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  Just this looks like another attack on Bitcoin.
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  Also also G money, just to give you the context.
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  This is in regards to the Mine in America Act.
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  I'm I'm sure you probably have been following along.
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  So just to give you that context, but yeah, what Nico
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  said. Yeah, sorry I'm early guys.
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  I got the thing. But then it said to log in
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  early. So anyway, I'm here, but it's
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  way too fucking early for you guys to be dooming about this
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  shit. What are we doing guys?
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  We just, we just freaking let's go, man.
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  I mean, we just have, we just sat down the 17th chair of the
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  Federal Reserve, by the way, in the 17th year of Bitcoins
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  history, that is a Bitcoin maximalist.
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  We have the Treasury Secretary, Scott Bassett, who is a Bitcoin
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  maximalist. The IRS does not have an acting
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  commissioner. And look guys, you can't Co opt
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  Bitcoin, right? And like we can't just walk
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  Bitcoin through the government agencies with a clean bill of
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  health saying here's an open source decentralization
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  protocol. Everybody go, no, it's a it's a
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  cat and mouse game, right? This is the initial entry,
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  right, getting somewhat into the government's, you know, purview.
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  And when it gets in there, like the government's not going to be
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  able to change Bitcoin. Bitcoin is going to change the
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  government. So I think we need to look at
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  the opposite side of this and be like, well, once this Creek
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  creeps into their purview and they realize they can't do
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  anything to actually Co opt it, then they have to change their
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  rules. We don't have to change ours.
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  And so I love this because anytime you introduce this
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  technology to something, it's Bitcoin that it imposes them to
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  make changes, not not to, you know, Co opt the network.
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  So I'm, I'm super positive about this and I think it's just, you
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  know, the first run at this as we as we're in this transition.
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  So, Gee, Bonnie, you talk about digital 1776 and one of the
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  things that stuck out to me the most was regarding the Clarity
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  Act and how the Trump administration wants to pass the
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  Clarity Act on July 4th, which would be the 250th anniversary
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  of the United States of America, which again, would be very, very
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  symbolic. And going back to like
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  referencing the things that you were saying, yes, President
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  Trump, he has a huge incentive in Bitcoin.
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  Like his kid is literally running one of the largest
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  Bitcoin mining operations in the world.
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  Truth Social. They, they have one of the the
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  largest Bitcoin stacks as a publicly traded company, right?
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  You know, RFK Junior again, Bitcoiner, he said, like, look,
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  I've transferred most of my net worth into Bitcoin, right?
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  We know that Marco Rubio, which could potentially be the next
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  president, which would be awesome.
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  I'm from Miami again. He, you know, we know that he
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  likes Bitcoin, right? We know the vice president
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  currently, JD Vance likes Bitcoin.
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  So the whole administration is positive to Bitcoin.
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  But at the same time, while they talk about Bitcoin, they are
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  still dollar Maxis. They're still Fiat Maxis, right?
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  They still want the perpetuation of the US dollar.
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  And my question to you is, can those two systems coexist?
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  They can coexist right now. It's not a big problem, right?
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  But what happens when 5 to 7% of the population is actively
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  taking Bitcoin, putting into self custody and then
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  transacting peer-to-peer? Is the Fiat monetary system and
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  the Bitcoin system compatible? And I'm just going to play a
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  clip by Christine Lagarde what they're doing in Europe where
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  they're basically saying look, €10,000 transactions, that's
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  going to be illegal, right? We're we're not going to we're
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  not going to want that any transactions going to require an
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  ID. So you can see how there's an in
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  in compatibility between the two systems.
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  I love your optimism G money. I want to get your take.
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  Let me play this clip and then we'll talk about it.
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  We had some technical difficulties.
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  Seems like it seems like the clip.
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  No audio dude. It seems like the clip had did
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  not have audio but let let me let me TLDR let me tee it up.
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  I don't know what happened there, but.
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  Maybe it's your audio settings on your computer?
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  Anyways, look let me TLDR the the audio clip so people
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  understand, but basically it's this.
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  Any €10,000 transaction is essentially not going to be
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  allowed and every €10,000 transaction is going to require
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  some type of ID. So my base case for this G money
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  is, are the two systems even compatible like it?
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  It is a Fiat monetary system where they have total control
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  over the, the money flows. They have total control over the
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  issuance. Is that compatible with a
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  Bitcoin system? I see an inevitable clash.
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  I, I see it as an inevitability. I don't see it as a will this
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  will happen. I, I, I have, I see it as when
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  will this happen? So what's your take on this?
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  Because you came in here with just so much optimism and I want
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  some of that. Give me some of that optimism G
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  money. Give me.
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  Niko has been dooming on me lately, so, you know, let's
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  let's get his mind straight. Yeah, let's, let's, let's cut
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  the shit here, guys. I mean, we are winning so
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  freaking bad. It's just unbelievable.
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  But like, look, stable coins are a huge part of this, right?
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  Like a world that goes strictly from bit like Fiat to Bitcoin is
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  a very disruptive, chaotic, full of death and destruction, right?
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  We don't want that, right? We're trying to prevent as much
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  as chaos as possible. We're in transition, OK, And the
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  Clarity Act is going to help re collateralize banks, right?
• 21:43
  Long gone are the days of fractional reserve banking, OK?
• 21:47
  The banks are now put on notice. If you do not adopt A treasury
• 21:50
  strategy that is fully collateralized, you will go out
• 21:53
  of business. So no longer can you make money
• 21:55
  out of thin air, OK? Not only that, but hyper
• 21:58
  dollarization via stable coins allows the entire world to get
• 22:03
  access to dollars. OK, US Americans, we're so
• 22:05
  arrogant, right? We we've got the world reserve
• 22:07
  currency. We think we're a king, we're
• 22:09
  tough shit. But like other people around the
• 22:11
  world, they desperately need dollars.
• 22:13
  OK. And so the stable coins
• 22:14
  theoretically are help to re colliderize our banking system,
• 22:17
  but also it's for all these other people and all these other
• 22:20
  poor countries that need access to dollars.
• 22:23
  The other part of that, the secondary effect of that, which
• 22:25
  is brilliant by the way, is that when we hyper dollarize, right,
• 22:29
  all these tyrants from all these other countries that print their
• 22:31
  own little fitty shitty Fiat currencies that control their
• 22:35
  people through their own printing of money.
• 22:37
  Like once they realize that they can no longer print money to run
• 22:40
  all their NGOs and their tyranny on their own people and that
• 22:43
  people are starting to buy dollars, those power vacuums end
• 22:46
  up getting sucked up into the dollar.
• 22:48
  And so they can no longer control their people through
• 22:50
  their own Fiat currencies, they're going to have to buy
• 22:52
  dollars. OK, so hyper dollarization
• 22:55
  through stable coins leads to hyper bitcoinization, which
• 22:59
  leads to hyper Americanization all across the entire world.
• 23:02
  And so yes, this is a positive thing.
• 23:05
  Let's fucking go. Let's sound the horns here, Nico
• 23:07
  and freaking Opti. Let's go.
• 23:10
  You're doing here, guys. No more grooming.
• 23:12
  I found I found the quote. I found the quote.
• 23:14
  So breaking The EU just banned cash payments over €10,000 and
• 23:19
  it will require ID for all Bitcoin transactions starting
• 23:22
  2027. What's your take on that G
• 23:26
  money? EU I think.
• 23:28
  I think. Lagarde E Bag.
• 23:30
  E bag at Deez Nuts because last time I checked, my wallet will
• 23:34
  allow me to like transact in any amount that I want.
• 23:37
  And So what this is is a lesson, right?
• 23:39
  These people are going to try and centralized as much as
• 23:42
  possible and when they try and centralized as much as possible,
• 23:45
  people are going to defect a lot sooner because they're going to
• 23:48
  realize, wow, why would I use a stable coin when I can use
• 23:51
  Bitcoin and do all these other things right?
• 23:53
  It's being shown with the Strait of Hormuz, right?
• 23:55
  the US Treasury froze $500 million in Tether at the in the
• 23:59
  drop of a hat. Now they're using Bitcoin.
• 24:01
  Like, the lessons people have to wake up to are painful.
• 24:04
  And if you have to learn through a painful lesson, like that's
• 24:06
  your fault for not doing your research ahead of time because,
• 24:09
  yeah, you want to use a shitty stable coin, go for it.
• 24:12
  They're going to freeze your accounts.
• 24:13
  They're going to stop you from transacting, learn about
• 24:16
  something that they can't stop, right?
• 24:18
  Learn about Deez Nuts, learn about digital 1776.
• 24:21
  And here's the thing. Here's the greatest thing,
• 24:22
  right? Like if they don't like, if they
• 24:25
  don't negotiate with you and treat you nice, you put all your
• 24:27
  money into a seed phrase, you go to another country like El
• 24:30
  Salvador or come here to the US, right?
• 24:32
  Wherever you can go that's a little bit more friendlier.
• 24:34
  And those nation states that are acting like tyrants, people are
• 24:37
  going to leave. That's that's just what's going
• 24:39
  to happen. So my counter to that G money
• 24:44
  is. Here we go.
• 24:47
  I think we had a very utopian vision of Bitcoin before the
• 24:52
  Black Rock, the the launch of the Black Rock ETF.
• 24:55
  And that utopian vision was like everybody was going to take self
• 24:58
  custody, everybody was going to run their own node.
• 25:01
  But we saw the opposite of that right when we when we saw the
• 25:04
  launch of the Black Rock Bitcoin ETF, we actually saw a decrease
• 25:09
  in the amount of people that are actively taking Bitcoin into
• 25:12
  self custody. And I think for this revolution
• 25:14
  to succeed, you need individuals to stand up and reclaim back
• 25:19
  their financial sovereignty. Now, excuse me, I think the
• 25:23
  thing that caught a lot of people off guard is the fact
• 25:25
  that I think a lot of people are comfortable with convenience.
• 25:30
  I think a lot of people perhaps just don't want the sovereignty
• 25:34
  because they're comfortable with the slavery aspect of it.
• 25:38
  So what's your take on that G money?
• 25:40
  Like, are we being overly optimistic in individuals
• 25:43
  themselves? And it reminds me of that, that
• 25:45
  very, very famous viral video that went online where it's like
• 25:49
  this like Indian guru. And he like has his like, you
• 25:52
  know, he's like very stoic and he's like.
• 25:54
  Oshi oshi I think. Yeah.
• 25:55
  And he's like, basically like, you know, the problem with
• 25:58
  democracy is that it's by the people for the people, but the
• 26:02
  people are regarded right. So what's your what's your take
• 26:05
  on that G money? Because it's like, yes, like if
• 26:09
  people had agency, if people really value valued liberty, if
• 26:13
  this was 1776 United States of America, I would be extremely
• 26:19
  bullish on that case. But it seems like people are
• 26:21
  comfortable with their Netflix, with their sports ball are
• 26:25
  people. Do people really understand
• 26:27
  here? What's at stake?
• 26:29
  Right, Because it's really two futures ahead of us.
• 26:31
  It's either Bitcoin or slavery. You're making the argument that
• 26:35
  hey, listen, bitcoins going to win no matter what.
• 26:37
  G Money. Yeah, Look, you know, in the
• 26:40
  revolutionary time in 1776, they didn't have a majority of the
• 26:43
  population, right? There was a very small few
• 26:45
  amount of people that actually fought the revolution.
• 26:46
  So we are technically those revolutionaries, right?
• 26:49
  We are creating the big bridge that is going to lead to that
• 26:52
  abundance, that golden age. And so like, we don't need
• 26:54
  everybody in the in the future, right?
• 26:55
  We're going to, we're going to, we're going to create that that
• 26:59
  chaos in the beginning to force this upon everybody else.
• 27:02
  But at the end of the day, right, like, if we're the only
• 27:04
  ones there and nobody else has access to this, like we're going
• 27:07
  to be haunted, right? And like, track down and be
• 27:10
  like, find these bitcoiners. They have all the wealth, right?
• 27:12
  But so like, that's why like strategy and BlackRock and like
• 27:16
  we're giving hundreds of millions of people access
• 27:18
  through a derivative to this product, OK?
• 27:21
  Michael Saylor is taking Satanic energy and turning it into
• 27:24
  beautiful golden age Bitcoin money through derivatives, and
• 27:27
  he's giving everybody else access to this product.
• 27:29
  Now, if Trump comes along and 61-O2 is everybody's Bitcoin and
• 27:33
  offers them Fiat, they're going to have a hard lesson, right?
• 27:35
  But like, at the same time, we've got to try to bring as
• 27:38
  many people along as long as we can.
• 27:39
  Yes, the people that are want full sovereignty and access.
• 27:42
  We're going to have special access in this new future and
• 27:44
  people are going to have to gain access through it to learn self
• 27:47
  custody and all these other things.
• 27:49
  But look, I think everything at the end of the day is good for
• 27:51
  Bitcoin because when when the dust settles, right, who holds
• 27:55
  the keys? You know, And so any other
• 27:57
  perspective, you look at this, you cannot change Bitcoin, You
• 28:00
  cannot go up the rules. And So what better way to start
• 28:03
  putting these pots of gold inside of the corrupt system of
• 28:07
  Wall Street? And at the end of the day, let's
• 28:08
  see who's being truthful because at the end of the day, Bitcoin
• 28:11
  either makes you a better person, right?
• 28:13
  Or it makes you a thief and you find out who the real losers
• 28:15
  are. And so like, let's just like
• 28:17
  reveal everything and find out who the vampires are.
• 28:19
  Let's go into this new world, right with just like, you know,
• 28:23
  bootstrapped and ready to go because I'm tired of this old
• 28:25
  world of rigging and and bullshit and fake elections and
• 28:28
  paying our taxes to pedophiles like that old world ends, man.
• 28:31
  Like we need to stand up right now.
• 28:33
  We need to stop pussyfooting around and be like everything is
• 28:37
  good for Bitcoin. Like what are we doing here?
• 28:38
  Right? Like it doesn't matter.
• 28:40
  No matter what they do, they cannot Co-op the network.
• 28:42
  They've tried a million times over.
• 28:44
  We're way too strong. And this is a worldwide
• 28:46
  competition. Now Bitcoin is imposing this
• 28:48
  free market on the entire world, which is going to force
• 28:51
  governments to compete, which is going to force institutions to
• 28:54
  compete. And no longer can they get a
• 28:56
  free that they've been doing with the Fiat cartel forever.
• 29:03
  Amen to that Opti. Do you want to follow?
• 29:05
  Up, I mean, how can I follow up G Money on that one?
• 29:09
  I totally agree with him. You know, I'm totally on board
• 29:11
  with G Money, but no, I do. I do actually think that what G
• 29:19
  Money is saying is very true. Like we are winning.
• 29:22
  I mean, me and Nico have these conversations behind the scenes
• 29:24
  all the time. And it's like, man, you know,
• 29:27
  there has been a lot of doubt in the last couple of, I think
• 29:30
  months from everyone in the community.
• 29:31
  And that's probably because of the bear market.
• 29:33
  You know, we're like politics is here, Bitcoin is being embraced,
• 29:38
  the institutions are here. I think everyone had this.
• 29:42
  I, I don't want to say like doubt, but we're all wondering
• 29:44
  like, wait, is this how it was going to happen?
• 29:47
  And I've been like, I think this is, this is the way it was going
• 29:50
  to happen anyways. And maybe it's even happening
• 29:52
  quicker than we thought. And so that's why I think a lot
• 29:55
  of us are maybe asking each other these questions.
• 29:58
  But since it's like peak bear market sentiment, we're all
• 30:01
  like, man, is this what winning feels like 'cause it doesn't
• 30:04
  feel that good right now. But when we cover all of the
• 30:08
  news, you know, we are a new show.
• 30:10
  We've been covering all the news like man, there's so much good
• 30:12
  news and it's like why is the price keep dumping?
• 30:15
  That's like the question the chat keeps asking is like so
• 30:17
  much good news and yet the price dumps and everyone's like man, I
• 30:21
  was promised winning. This doesn't feel like winning,
• 30:23
  but I we we're winning. We definitely are winning, so
• 30:27
  let's. Talk about that, right?
• 30:28
  So G money, right? So this is the first time in
• 30:30
  Bitcoin's history where we've had so far, the year is not
• 30:34
  over. We're halfway through the year,
• 30:35
  but the year is not over. What is your take on last year's
• 30:41
  Bitcoin price action and this year's Bitcoin price action?
• 30:45
  Because this will be the first time in Bitcoin's history where
• 30:49
  if this year ends where Bitcoin's prices.
• 30:52
  Right now, we have 2 years in a row where Bitcoin ends in the
• 30:57
  red. Are you concerned what is going
• 31:00
  up? Because I think ultimately the
• 31:02
  biggest incentive for people to adopt Bitcoin, for people to
• 31:06
  adopt freedom money, if we're being serious with ourselves, if
• 31:10
  we're being real, if we're being honest, is number go up
• 31:14
  technology is number go up technology broken.
• 31:17
  What's going on? G money.
• 31:19
  Has it been Co opted by Wall Street?
• 31:20
  Is Wall Street playing Wall Street games?
• 31:23
  G money? Yeah, Wall Street's going to
• 31:24
  keep playing Wall Street games, OK?
• 31:26
  And so I love this price action because it's punishing the
• 31:29
  people, right? That shouldn't been have stayed
• 31:32
  in this long anyway. It's punishing the mark Cubans,
• 31:35
  OK? It's punishing the shit corners.
• 31:36
  It's punishing all the degenerates that don't belong
• 31:39
  with us on the spaceship. OK, so if you are an idiot and
• 31:43
  you fell for the Fiat price number, go up as the only use
• 31:46
  case for Bitcoin like you deserve, right?
• 31:49
  What's happening at the end of this?
• 31:51
  Because I never really had the, you know, God candle scenario.
• 31:54
  But at the end of the day, like, if this is truly this new great
• 31:58
  awakening and this new transfer of wealth, like it's going to
• 32:00
  happen really quickly to where people won't be able to prepare
• 32:03
  for it. It's going to be a surprise to
• 32:05
  everybody punishes. You're not a true believer,
• 32:12
  right? You are going to be punished,
• 32:14
  right, because you're going to get depressed when you see the
• 32:16
  number go through the roof and you look at all of us laughing
• 32:18
  at you for you selling because you're an idiot and you didn't
• 32:21
  do your research. OK, So I love this fact that
• 32:23
  it's punishing these people. And I agree, like the mental
• 32:26
  like anguish of going through this bear market, like it sucks.
• 32:29
  I get it. But at the end of the day, it's
• 32:31
  just strengthens the case for this God candle scenario that's
• 32:34
  going to catch everybody up. And that's how, because I think
• 32:40
  retail's cooked right. We've had and if you don't get
• 32:47
  you can beach ball for so long cards gobbling up all these
• 32:51
  coins. You've got stride, you've got
• 32:52
  Sia, you've got all these companies, you got SpaceX now
• 32:55
  stacking 18,000 coins. There will become a point right
• 32:59
  when the scarcity of Bitcoin kicks in and everybody freaks
• 33:02
  out because they've never seen a a, an asset like this before.
• 33:05
  And so I'm all for it, man, like let let's punish the tourists.
• 33:08
  Let's get get rid of the freaking Mark Cubans that don't
• 33:10
  deserve to be here in the 1st place and let's find out who the
• 33:13
  true Ogs are, right? Am I right?
• 33:15
  Let's go, let's go, let's go. Hey, hey, I know chat.
• 33:19
  You know I'm speaking for myself here, but I needed I needed G
• 33:23
  money on the show today. This one for me guys, it's not
• 33:26
  for you. Yeah, we need to fix it.
• 33:28
  Didn't talk about this ahead of time either.
• 33:30
  Yeah, yeah. Not at all.
• 33:31
  Literally not at all G money coming in here with the
• 33:35
  optimism. I thought you were supposed to
• 33:36
  be optimist fields. Hey dude, you know I'm doing the
• 33:39
  best I can with you next to me every single day, OK?
• 33:45
  So, man, what I'm hearing from you, G Money, is that we're
• 33:47
  gonna win. We're gonna, we're gonna win
• 33:49
  bigger than ever before. The human race is gonna be freed
• 33:53
  from the tyranny of central banking and Fiat, and we're
• 33:56
  heading into a new era in human history.
• 33:59
  What does that new era look like for you?
• 34:01
  What is the role of the individual in this new type of
• 34:05
  society where the power of the state goes down?
• 34:09
  Yeah, man, it's a beautiful thing because now each
• 34:11
  individual has weaponized authority.
• 34:13
  OK, You can now tell the government to go eat a bag,
• 34:16
  right? Everybody in the world can go
• 34:17
  tell the government to go eat a bag, right?
• 34:19
  I'm not going to comply. I'm not going to pay taxes to
• 34:22
  pedophiles. I'm not going to fund the next,
• 34:24
  you know, genocide in Palestine. I'm not going to fund the next
• 34:27
  bio lab in Ukraine. And then people can have actual
• 34:30
  ownership of their own freaking morality, right?
• 34:33
  Because right now you're funding terrorism, OK?
• 34:36
  You're funding genocide. You're funding all these
• 34:38
  different things through the exploitation of your energy,
• 34:41
  through the payment of taxes, OK?
• 34:42
  So taxation is theft, OK, in every sense of that word.
• 34:46
  And So what people have to do is realize that they have been
• 34:49
  given the power to the individual, and the individual
• 34:52
  needs to weaponize their consent.
• 34:55
  I no longer comply. And if enough of us do it, OK.
• 34:59
  And they cannot stop this. They can't jail all of us.
• 35:02
  They haven't paid my taxes in six years.
• 35:04
  I don't even know if there's an IRS around.
• 35:05
  The last commissioner, Scott Bassett, left six months ago.
• 35:09
  I got, I got to go on record and say, 'cause we are on YouTube,
• 35:12
  Simply Bitcoin does not endorse that.
• 35:15
  That is G Money's perspective, and we value different
• 35:18
  perspectives here on Simply, but This is why G Money's on Rumble.
• 35:25
  Facts. We should have done this on
• 35:27
  Rumble exclusive show. No, no, no, he's been chill.
• 35:30
  He's been pretty chill. He's been pretty chill but.
• 35:31
  No, I mean, look, so to kind of reel it back in and make this
• 35:35
  YouTube friendly, right? Like ultimately, I think the
• 35:38
  biggest form of taxation that I think individuals incur G money,
• 35:42
  like let's put income tax aside for a second, right, is taxation
• 35:48
  through inflation. And I think we can all agree
• 35:51
  that that is not a tax that none of us have agreed on, right?
• 35:56
  I don't think there's a law that is in Congress right now is part
• 36:00
  of the legislation that says you need to pay taxes via inflation,
• 36:05
  right? I, I don't think people are
• 36:06
  aware of that. I don't think people understand
• 36:09
  that. And that tax disproportionately
• 36:12
  affects the lower and middle classes the most, right?
• 36:14
  So that's really what I want to focus on this part of the
• 36:17
  conversation, the income tax conversation, man, we can have
• 36:20
  and we can have a 2 hour podcast on that on Rumble and we can go
• 36:24
  crazy, but let's focus on the taxation via inflation.
• 36:29
  Yeah, I mean, taxation without representation, right?
• 36:32
  What? This country was founded on
• 36:33
  taxation without representation. They petitioned, they begged,
• 36:37
  they pleaded, right? They did everything they could
• 36:40
  until the first shots of Bunker Hill rang out and they said I no
• 36:43
  longer comply, Right? So they were treasonous, but
• 36:47
  they weren't because they actually won.
• 36:48
  So it's only treason if you lose first.
• 36:51
  Well, you know, the payment of taxes, you can't track any of
• 36:56
  that, right? And so when you pay your taxes,
• 36:58
  right, Nico, do you have any traction of where that money
• 37:00
  goes? Do you know where it went, how
• 37:03
  it was spent? What was what was it going to?
• 37:05
  No, it's funding NGOs, OK. It's funding, you know,
• 37:09
  institutional theft. We, we are living with financial
• 37:12
  jihadis, financial terrorists run this country.
• 37:16
  And we should treat these people as the same as rapists, the same
• 37:19
  as criminals that shoot people, the same as murders.
• 37:22
  The financial terrorists of this country deserve to be treated
• 37:24
  like rapists and murders. And we should not let them be
• 37:27
  like, oh, they're just printing money.
• 37:28
  That's not that bad of a sin. No, it's the ultimate sin.
• 37:31
  You're creating something out of nothing and you're making all of
• 37:33
  us pay for it at the same time. And so all of its theft.
• 37:37
  And we've never had an asset to where we've had full loyal to
• 37:40
  our own ownership with something that they have no control over.
• 37:43
  They can't tax it, they can't confiscate it, they can't put
• 37:45
  liens on it. And if we figured that out that
• 37:48
  if we self custody our Bitcoin and stop complying, then they
• 37:52
  realize there's way more numbers of us because right now we live
• 37:54
  in a shit coin democracy. Nico, there's 218 people that
• 37:58
  decide the rules of 330 million. Tell me that's not an Etherium
• 38:02
  XRP shit coin of of consensus. We live in an out of scale
• 38:05
  consensus. That does not work for the
• 38:07
  future. The future will be individuals
• 38:10
  that will have self sacred satoshis that will be a passport
• 38:13
  to anywhere. And if governments don't comply,
• 38:16
  governments will go out of business.
• 38:17
  That is simply what's going to happen.
• 38:19
  Yeah, I mean, this is a theory, by the way, from the sovereign
• 38:21
  individual aspect of it, right, which is information
• 38:24
  technologies is going to allow individuals to reclaim back
• 38:29
  their sovereignty not over not only over information, but also
• 38:33
  over money, right? That's literally the base case
• 38:36
  of that book. The base case of that book is
• 38:38
  like, look like nation states, how they currently function is
• 38:42
  they see their citizens as cattle.
• 38:44
  And now information technologies is going to give the cattle
• 38:47
  wings right now, I think where it's a hot buddy an issue where
• 38:50
  again, we want to we we want to play by the rules of the road of
• 38:53
  YouTube is the income tax aspect.
• 38:56
  Again, we pay our income taxes as a as a business here at
• 39:00
  simply Bitcoin. I pay my income taxes, but it is
• 39:04
  you know, it is it it you did bring up some very valid points
• 39:08
  that I think we can explore and we can criticize G money, which
• 39:12
  is at the end of the day, right You when you pay your taxes, it
• 39:15
  is going into a pot and we don't truly have transparency into
• 39:20
  where that pot is is going, right.
• 39:23
  And we saw this with, you know, we had this 21 year old kid that
• 39:27
  went to what it was Minnesota or Wisconsin, that was Minnesota.
• 39:32
  And he basically exposed this giant fraud that was happening.
• 39:36
  And at the end of the day, your tax, your tax dollars were going
• 39:40
  to funding that fraud. And there was no accountability.
• 39:43
  None of the legacy media outlets discovered this.
• 39:45
  This was this was a layup of journalism.
• 39:48
  Like they have 10s of billions of dollars worth of funding
• 39:52
  where they can do this type of investigative work.
• 39:54
  And it took a 21 year old kid with a YouTube channel to expose
• 39:59
  this crazy. Crazy level of fraud and
• 40:02
  everyone else wasn't aware to it or what you know, wasn't wasn't
• 40:06
  Privy to it. And then the other part that I
• 40:08
  think we can criticize as well is, yeah, you are paying taxes.
• 40:11
  But it's like, what if you don't agree on these wars?
• 40:15
  What if you don't agree on these conflicts, right?
• 40:18
  And I think the vast majority of Americans, I think that they
• 40:21
  would not fundamentally be OK with any of these conflicts if
• 40:27
  they actually felt the pain. But I think that the reason that
• 40:30
  governments are able to get away with it is because of the fact
• 40:34
  that they can print money. Because of because of the fact
• 40:37
  that they can print money. They it's like this kind of like
• 40:39
  insidious taxation that's happening to fund all these
• 40:43
  things that are happening, but people are just not aware that
• 40:46
  they're actually paying for it, right?
• 40:48
  I think there would be a revolt on the street tomorrow if people
• 40:53
  were like, hey, listen guys, because we can't print our own
• 40:56
  money and we want to go to war in this specific country.
• 41:00
  In this specific country, we're actually going to have to raise
• 41:03
  the taxation rate by 5%. I think there would be a revolt
• 41:07
  on the street tomorrow. I think people would just not be
• 41:10
  OK with it whatsoever. I think the reason that they're
• 41:12
  able to get away with it in the first place is because of the
• 41:15
  insidious form of taxation, which is taxation via inflation.
• 41:20
  I think that once society moves to a hard money standard, guess
• 41:24
  what? You can't get away with that
• 41:26
  anymore because there's only so much the government could tax
• 41:29
  before people start to say, listen, like I, I, I have
• 41:32
  empathy for what's going on in Ukraine.
• 41:34
  I have empathy for what's going on in Iran.
• 41:36
  But like, I can't even put food on the table, my friend.
• 41:39
  Like I can't even, I can't put even, I can't put food on the
• 41:42
  table. I can't even pay my rent.
• 41:43
  And you're asking me to fund something overseas that actually
• 41:47
  doesn't really have an impact on me.
• 41:49
  I'm just not going along with it, right.
• 41:51
  So what's your take on that G money?
• 41:52
  And remember, we are on YouTube my friend.
• 41:54
  Yeah. And so look, you know, 80 to 90%
• 41:58
  of like lower taxes, like, you know, actual verification of IDs
• 42:03
  for voting, like these are bipartisan issues that actually
• 42:05
  have like 80 to 90% support on both sides of the aisle.
• 42:08
  Funny enough, you've got these things like lower crime, right?
• 42:11
  And so those things would have would have actually sailed
• 42:13
  through Congress without any issues.
• 42:14
  And what's funny is none of it does.
• 42:16
  Why doesn't that, Why doesn't that work?
• 42:17
  And that's because the system with you, they don't give a
• 42:23
  shit, right? They're just looking for their
• 42:24
  next payday. They're looking for the next
• 42:26
  pork project and they're looking for the next position.
• 42:28
  Because the only thing you can do to a politician that you
• 42:31
  don't like is maybe replace them in four years with someone else,
• 42:35
  right? That's your only weapon against
• 42:37
  these people. And so only until we go back to
• 42:40
  a go, hey, bro, you want to build a school for disabled kids
• 42:45
  and you want to raise money and it's going to take Satoshi's
• 42:49
  from each individual to put up for that.
• 42:50
  You know what? I might donate to that.
• 42:52
  Hey, guess what? We're going to drop bombs on
• 42:55
  this place that nobody's really heard of.
• 42:57
  You can't even point you on a map, and we need money for that.
• 42:59
  Do you want to drop bombs on random people?
• 43:00
  No. You know what?
• 43:01
  I'm not down for that. Go go F yourself, right?
• 43:03
  Good luck getting funding for doing stuff like that.
• 43:06
  So we need to realize, right, we're stuck it.
• 43:08
  We're stuck in a Zionist Jewish banking cartel, OK, that is
• 43:12
  controlled us through the media, through corporations, through
• 43:15
  NGOs, through the banking system, through all of it, and
• 43:18
  that there's only one way out of it, and that is us taking back
• 43:21
  our power through self custodial Bitcoin and just refusing to
• 43:24
  comply. And eventually they're going to
• 43:25
  be like, you know what, G money? I really want to do this project
• 43:28
  that is about creating a bio lab in Ukraine and be like, you know
• 43:31
  what? I'm not going to support a bio
• 43:33
  lab in Ukraine. So why don't you go after
• 43:34
  yourself? And so here's where it's going
• 43:36
  to go back to, right? Go fund me, bro.
• 43:37
  Government. You know what this will actually
• 43:39
  produce? This will produce great citizens
• 43:40
  like you, Nico, like you Opti, that want to actually probably
• 43:43
  do something great for the world.
• 43:44
  Maybe you want to build a bridge or do something with the school
• 43:47
  or do something with, I don't know, education, whatever it is.
• 43:50
  And then you can put projects together that actually have legs
• 43:53
  that have fruit. Instead of these projects to
• 43:55
  nowhere. In California, we're sitting on
• 43:56
  a, you know, highway to nowhere, some rail that's been around for
• 43:59
  10 years and spent $10 billion and nothing's happened.
• 44:02
  That's what constantly happens because these people have no
• 44:05
  incentive to work with you. They laugh at you.
• 44:07
  And so if you're yelling at a system in which you have no
• 44:10
  power or authority in, the problem isn't the system itself,
• 44:14
  because the problem is you, because you haven't realized you
• 44:21
  can't vote your way out of this. And so I know it's scary.
• 44:23
  In the back of your head, you think I got to take up arms to
• 44:25
  fight my government like that? No, you don't have to die.
• 44:28
  You don't have to resort to violence.
• 44:29
  That is not the answer. The answer is taking owners,
• 44:32
  taking agency, taking responsibility for yourself and
• 44:35
  your own morality and saying I no longer comply.
• 44:41
  Yeah, I mean, bro, absolute bars.
• 44:44
  It just dawned on me. We're gonna, we're gonna go
• 44:46
  deeper on this. Ladies and gentlemen, we're
• 44:48
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• 44:50
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• 44:52
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• 45:03
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  So it would have been G money. G money could have just
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  unleashed from the beginning. Wait, but before, before Niku
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  goes in, I do want to ask you G money.
• 48:10
  I actually have a lot of questions because I, I love your
• 48:13
  content, but some of the times I'm like in particular the, the
• 48:17
  Q Anon stuff, I, I'm like, wait, do you believe it or are you
• 48:21
  making fun of them? So I will ask you that later,
• 48:23
  but I really want to start here. You kind of laid it out.
• 48:27
  I want to start with asking you just just like your general
• 48:31
  overall view of the Trump administration embracing Bitcoin
• 48:35
  and where we currently stand, because I think that might be
• 48:37
  good context for the rest of the conversation here.
• 48:39
  So what is your thoughts on, you know, Trump himself and his
• 48:43
  administration embracing Bitcoin?
• 48:46
  And where do we currently stand in the Bitcoin story?
• 48:50
  So what's funny about this is I've been tracking this for a
• 48:53
  long time, since Trump's first term, believe it or not.
• 48:55
  OK, so Trump's been a Bitcoin maxi this entire time.
• 48:57
  I've actually predicted it through some of my research,
• 48:59
  through the Joe Feffy dig. And so if you go back and look
• 49:02
  at Trump's first term, he actually, you know, appointed,
• 49:07
  well, Steve Mnuchin did, right? His Treasury Secretary approved,
• 49:10
  appointed a guy named Brian Brooks to the Office of the
• 49:12
  Comptroller of the Currency. This is back in during the COVID
• 49:15
  time, actually. OK.
• 49:17
  And during that time frame, Brian Brooks made it legal for
• 49:20
  banks to custody Bitcoin even back in, you know, 20, I think
• 49:23
  it was 20/20/20, I think it was. And so many people forget this
• 49:27
  fact that Trump, even though he called it magical money out of
• 49:30
  thin air, right, which is actually our central banking,
• 49:33
  how it works. You know, he, he, he put this
• 49:36
  injection of Bitcoin into our financial institutions.
• 49:39
  And then if you look at, you know, he created Space Force and
• 49:42
  then you have like SpaceX and you have decentralized Internet
• 49:46
  and you have all these things going on.
• 49:48
  You look at the hash power. You look at the hash power from
• 49:50
  when Trump was elected in his first term to where it is now.
• 49:53
  It's, it's unbelievable. Now you can say that's just a
• 49:55
  coincidence or whatever, but like, I truly believe there's
• 49:57
  something deeper there. And so look at the end of the
• 50:01
  day, like America doesn't need Bitcoin, OK, we have the world
• 50:06
  reserve currency. We have the strongest freaking
• 50:09
  military on the planet. Like we can do whatever we want.
• 50:11
  And so like a lot of bitcoins get mad at Trump for launching a
• 50:14
  shit coin or doing this. But like, if Trump were to come
• 50:17
  out as a Bitcoin maximalist, he's basically saying the
• 50:19
  dollar's toast. And like, you know, it's all
• 50:21
  it's all bullshit. And that would be too
• 50:23
  disruptive. That's what lets the cat out of
• 50:25
  the bag. Trump launching these shit
• 50:27
  coins, launching these meme coins.
• 50:28
  He's trying to get the culture of the young people every.
• 50:31
  He's trying to bring everybody to the playing field because
• 50:34
  look, when you buy A, buy a little bit of E, you'll probably
• 50:37
  buy a little bit of Bitcoin. And you're probably like
• 50:40
  actually learning what money actually is because none of us
• 50:43
  even knew what money was because we're all born into a system of
• 50:45
  bondage. OK?
• 50:47
  That none of us understood. And so I bought every shit coin
• 50:50
  rug pulled and learned, Oh my God, like all this stuff, this
• 50:53
  stuff is bullshit until what it what is actually big.
• 50:57
  And so Trump is getting every on the playing field.
• 50:59
  He's doing it to where he's in, you know, he's he's coalescing
• 51:02
  the largest crypto army on the planet.
• 51:04
  And if people don't do their research and get rug pulled,
• 51:07
  that is not his fault. That is their fault.
• 51:09
  That is an individual's fault because we are living through
• 51:12
  natural selection. And if you don't adapt, you're
• 51:15
  just going to get depressed, man.
• 51:17
  And so don't get depressed. Do your homework, do your
• 51:20
  research, listen to simply Bitcoin.
• 51:21
  Don't get to get don't get too doomed out, but understand again
• 51:25
  that the bigger plan here is a cultural revolution onboarding
• 51:28
  crypto to the masses, financial literacy for the world.
• 51:32
  And if it takes getting rug pulled on a Trump shit coin,
• 51:34
  well been getting rug pulled by a bank for the 100 years because
• 51:37
  at least you'll feel the pain right away and it won't be
• 51:39
  sucking into some, you know, delayed gratification of
• 51:42
  inflation right over a period of 50 years which you won't even
• 51:44
  recognize. Bars OK, I love that I I love
• 51:49
  that take. I love that take Nico.
• 51:50
  Nico, what's your take on this? Cause Nico is maybe more Trump
• 51:55
  friendly than. Me, I love I dude, I love the
• 51:58
  Trump administration. I mean, I think what the Trump
• 52:01
  administration did for, you know, the Bitcoin movement as a
• 52:05
  whole, the fact that he freed Ross Ulbricht, I mean like is it
• 52:09
  perfect? No, but like it ultimately this
• 52:13
  is this is a two party system. So you really had a a choice
• 52:17
  between Trump and an and an anti Bitcoin administration.
• 52:22
  And now that we're on Rumble, I could speak freely.
• 52:26
  You really had a choice between Trump and communism, right?
• 52:29
  Those are really the two choices that we had in in front of us.
• 52:33
  And like, we like if you had a choice between OK, Trump, which
• 52:38
  again, isn't perfect, right? There's some things, you know,
• 52:41
  across the margins, like the Iran war, I fundamentally
• 52:44
  disagreed with. Like, I was super happy with the
• 52:47
  Trump taking out Maduro as a Venezuelan.
• 52:49
  And then, you know, that emboldened him.
• 52:51
  And then like two or three weeks later, we were in another
• 52:53
  conflict in the Middle East. He specifically ran on not
• 52:56
  getting the United States involved in conflicts in the
• 52:59
  Middle East. So I feel like that was a little
• 53:01
  bit of a betrayal towards his base.
• 53:02
  Like, is Trump perfect? Is President Trump perfect?
• 53:06
  Is the administration perfect? Absolutely not.
• 53:08
  But it was a much better choice than the alternative.
• 53:12
  And the alternative, I don't know what the hell happened to
• 53:15
  the Democratic Party. And not monolithic, but.
• 53:18
  Think we all know what happened? I don't know what happened, but
• 53:21
  it's like they went straight down the socialism is a good
• 53:25
  idea, you know, path. And I mean, like, look at what's
• 53:28
  happening in California. Like in New York, they straight
• 53:31
  up elected a communist. There is a video of him
• 53:34
  yesterday, yesterday basically saying, oh, we're going to take
• 53:36
  away the property of certain landlords because we don't like
• 53:41
  them because they're not running.
• 53:42
  Like it's like, OK, so now in the United States of America and
• 53:46
  private property is, is going to be confiscated by the
• 53:49
  government. Like what type of reality do we
• 53:51
  live in, right? This is specifically what the
• 53:53
  United States stood against. They fought wars against this
• 53:56
  specific type of ideology. And somehow it's come here and
• 54:01
  somehow we have not learned the lessons of the past.
• 54:04
  I mean, the 20th centuries. It's, it's like the perfect
• 54:07
  example of why communism and socialism is not a good idea
• 54:13
  then. And, and me coming from as first
• 54:14
  generation American, my parents came from Venezuela.
• 54:16
  I could literally tell you Venezuela went from literally
• 54:20
  one of the wealthiest countries in the world to literally a
• 54:24
  failed state within 19 years because of socialism, because of
• 54:28
  communism. And this last election, I mean,
• 54:31
  you were bringing up like the election aspect of it.
• 54:34
  Like, and again, I'm not going to go too hard in the paint, but
• 54:37
  2020, that election was questionable.
• 54:40
  Some things happened in that election that, you know, make
• 54:43
  you scratch your head and say, wait, something happened here.
• 54:46
  And the fact that we weren't even allowed to question it, the
• 54:49
  fact that we weren't even allowed to say, hey, listen,
• 54:52
  there's some some things that happened that have never
• 54:55
  happened in American history. And the fact that people were
• 54:58
  getting straight up deplatformed because you were asking those
• 55:01
  questions. And again, we were like at a
• 55:05
  crossroads in the United States. We were literally at a
• 55:07
  crossroads. Were we going to go down the
• 55:10
  collectivism path or we going to go down the, you know, the
• 55:15
  freedom ish path, right? Those were the two choices that
• 55:18
  we had in this previous election.
• 55:20
  And I don't think people fully understood how close we were to
• 55:23
  going down the collectivism path.
• 55:25
  And I think that a lot of things play to the United states #1 is
• 55:30
  the First Amendment right? The freedom of speech?
• 55:32
  The fact that that's the First Amendment makes it very
• 55:34
  difficult for tyrants to, again, completely, you know, stifle
• 55:39
  free speech. The second thing is the Second
• 55:41
  Amendment, which is incredibly important, the right to bear
• 55:44
  arms. And then I would say the, the,
• 55:47
  the ultimate thing that's playing to the United States
• 55:49
  favor is this kind of federalist system that we have that we're
• 55:52
  individual states really act like their own separate
• 55:55
  countries in a way. I know that we're, you know, the
• 55:57
  United States, but like if you look at Florida, if you look at
• 56:00
  Texas, it's like you live in a different country compared to
• 56:05
  live in New York compared to if you live in California, right?
• 56:07
  So those three things are playing to the United States
• 56:10
  favor and I think people under appreciate how close we were to
• 56:16
  a potential really tyrannical government the likes of which
• 56:20
  the United States has never seen before in its history in this
• 56:24
  previous election. I mean like a lot of things are
• 56:26
  on the line. Like I think so much was at
• 56:28
  stake. Let's do you do you guys
• 56:29
  remember that there was 2 assassination attempts?
• 56:32
  Like that is absolutely crazy. Do you guys remember the fact
• 56:36
  that literally the person that I believe was going to be the
• 56:39
  future of the Republican Party, Charlie Kirk, was literally
• 56:43
  assassinated for trying to debate his ideas, right?
• 56:48
  Like, this is a point in American history where we've
• 56:51
  never lived in before. And Bitcoin plays a key role
• 56:54
  into all of this because Bitcoin is the next evolution of the
• 57:01
  American system, of the American mentality.
• 57:04
  If the founding fathers had Bitcoin when they founded the
• 57:07
  country, I guarantee you that Bitcoin would be the currency
• 57:12
  that the United States uses. The founding fathers felt very
• 57:15
  strongly about Fiat currencies and what Fiat currencies were
• 57:19
  going to allow the governments to do, specifically the central
• 57:22
  banks to what central banks were going to do.
• 57:25
  I would even make the case that if you look at the Communist
• 57:28
  Manifesto, I love that we're on Rummel so we can talk about all
• 57:30
  this stuff. If you look.
• 57:31
  At the Communist Manifesto, one of the manifest, one of the
• 57:35
  rules, one of the things one of the tenants is it makes the case
• 57:39
  for the necessity of a central bank, the centralization of
• 57:43
  credit, right? There's a reason that that's
• 57:45
  there and that for most of American history did not exist.
• 57:49
  You guys have to remember that the central bank was established
• 57:52
  in 1913 and we had the biggest world wars in world history, in
• 57:58
  American history since is the establishment of the Federal
• 58:01
  Reserve. Do you think that's a
• 58:02
  coincidence? Do you think it's a coincidence
• 58:04
  that the same year that they established the Federal Reserve,
• 58:07
  they also established the federal income tax?
• 58:09
  Do you think that's a coincidence?
• 58:10
  Do you think it's a coincidence that World War One started a
• 58:13
  couple years after the central bank was established in the
• 58:17
  United States? None of that is a coincidence,
• 58:19
  right? So I fundamentally agree with G
• 58:22
  Money. I think we're on the verge of
• 58:24
  digital 1776. This isn't a kinetic revolution.
• 58:28
  This isn't a revolution of like, let's grab our arms and rise up
• 58:32
  and, you know, fight the power. No, this is a revolution of
• 58:36
  opting out of taking back your agency, of taking back your
• 58:40
  sovereignty by taking your money, taking your energy,
• 58:43
  putting it into self custody, and opting out of the the system
• 58:47
  entirely. If enough of us do it, we will
• 58:50
  win it. It's a forcing function, which
• 58:52
  is what G money is referencing, right?
• 58:54
  It's a forcing function. It forces the other side to
• 58:58
  change their behavior because they don't have the power over
• 59:01
  the people that they once had for for two different fronts, on
• 59:06
  the front of information and on the front of money.
• 59:09
  And the money is the most important one.
• 59:11
  So I already believe G money that we've already won the
• 59:14
  information war. I already believe that we've
• 59:17
  already, and specifically the younger generations, we are no
• 59:20
  longer consuming our information from a handful of media outlets
• 59:25
  that we learned through COVID are completely controlled.
• 59:28
  They're not journalist, they're propagandist.
• 59:30
  Let's be real here, right? And then the second element to
• 59:34
  that is now we're on the verge of the separate of money in
• 59:38
  state. And I think that's where things
• 59:40
  are going to get rocky. I think that's where things are
• 59:43
  going to start to get interesting.
• 59:45
  That's where I think we're going to see more martyrs.
• 59:47
  That's where I think the governments are going to react
• 59:49
  with even more force. We're already starting to see
• 59:52
  semblance of that in, in, in, in, in, in Europe.
• 59:56
  They're telling you exactly like it is.
• 59:58
  Every ten €10,000 transaction in cash that's illegal.
• 1:00:03
  You want to transact in Bitcoin, we need an ID there.
• 1:00:06
  There's a reason for that. They're trying to keep people
• 1:00:09
  within that, said System G Money.
• 1:00:12
  Yeah, look, we're living through a worldwide counterinsurgency,
• 1:00:15
  OK? And that's why I truly believe
• 1:00:17
  if people understood the whole queue operation, which was a
• 1:00:19
  decentralized information campaign that allowed people to
• 1:00:22
  start even believing in conspiracies.
• 1:00:24
  I started believing that pedophiles ran the governments
• 1:00:27
  10 years ago and people thought I was nuts, right?
• 1:00:29
  And now what's look what's being exposed with the Epstein files.
• 1:00:32
  It's it's everywhere, right? You're seeing the Zionists be in
• 1:00:36
  connected to all these different pedophilia networks.
• 1:00:39
  You saw the guy in Vegas who was running a bio lab who was,
• 1:00:42
  although also Israeli, just get off.
• 1:00:44
  We saw what happened to Thomas Massie through AIPAC, right?
• 1:00:47
  So like these Ng OS we are being ran by foreign governments and
• 1:00:50
  institutions, primarily Israel, OK, as being one of them.
• 1:00:55
  But look guys, like every piece of Bitcoin is military nuclear
• 1:00:58
  proof technology TCPIP Tor Shaw 256 GPS, right?
• 1:01:03
  So if you pull on that thread and you read Jason Laurie's
• 1:01:06
  software thesis, you start to realize Bitcoin is a weapon
• 1:01:09
  system. OK, is it a digital arm in
• 1:01:12
  cyberspace that was given a 15 year head start to we the people
• 1:01:17
  of the entire world? OK, that allowed individuals to
• 1:01:21
  unlock unlimited watts in cyberspace as a weapon system.
• 1:01:25
  So yeah, Bitcoin is not just money, though.
• 1:01:27
  Bitcoin is power. It should be called bit power,
• 1:01:30
  right? Just because we arbitrarily
• 1:01:31
  chose to secure our financial information with Bitcoin, right,
• 1:01:34
  doesn't necessarily mean it's just money.
• 1:01:36
  And so we need to understand really that this is a weapon
• 1:01:39
  system. It is a weapon system against a
• 1:01:41
  tyranny of governments and central bankers.
• 1:01:43
  Because at the end of the day, bankers control governments and
• 1:01:47
  governments control people. And so we're, we're not just
• 1:01:49
  going after governments, we're going after the, you know, the
• 1:01:52
  head of the snake, right? The Vatican bank essentially is
• 1:01:55
  the head of this entire thing. And so we're going through the
• 1:01:57
  head and you see what's happening now the Pope is
• 1:01:59
  freaking out. Pope's like, wait a minute, wait
• 1:02:01
  a minute. These new algorithms, these new
• 1:02:03
  technologies, we have to have a community acceptance of the
• 1:02:07
  rules and everything. You Bitcoiners, you guys got in
• 1:02:10
  too early. That's not fair for everybody
• 1:02:12
  else. OK.
• 1:02:13
  And so I think it's funny that now the Pope, right, the
• 1:02:16
  pedophile Pope that's in charge is now trying to dictate terms
• 1:02:19
  on technology and AI, because AI will obviously, you know,
• 1:02:23
  increase deflationary technologies.
• 1:02:26
  AI is a net good, right? When we when we strip out all
• 1:02:29
  the wokeness and everything, which will happen eventually.
• 1:02:32
  But, you know, it's definitely dangerous, you know, if we don't
• 1:02:36
  pay attention to it. But I believe that is why Trump
• 1:02:38
  and the administration is centralizing some of that
• 1:02:40
  control to make sure it doesn't end up woke and we end up in
• 1:02:43
  this communist state. Because you're absolutely right,
• 1:02:45
  right? We were very close to ending
• 1:02:47
  that. But like, Trump is still alive,
• 1:02:49
  Michael Saylor still alive. They're not going after
• 1:02:52
  Bitcoiners, right? And they're not sending out
• 1:02:54
  death squads to Bitcoiners. And like, look, what's happening
• 1:02:57
  Our government is, is, you know, starting to interject and bring
• 1:03:01
  in Bitcoin into their rails. That is a fatal catastrophe for
• 1:03:06
  them, right when they implement Bitcoin in their own sphere and
• 1:03:10
  they realize they can't Co opt it.
• 1:03:12
  They can't, you know, manipulate it.
• 1:03:14
  They can't print more of it. These politicians don't realize
• 1:03:18
  they're ending their own careers at the end of the day because
• 1:03:21
  Bitcoin replaces politicians. OK, this is not just about, you
• 1:03:26
  know, money in in a sense, this is a global governance system
• 1:03:30
  that will allow peace, prosperity and abundance for the
• 1:03:33
  entire world. And it's not just an American
• 1:03:35
  thing. And that's why Trump is is
• 1:03:37
  playing like this 5D chess, right?
• 1:03:38
  He can't come out as a Bitcoin maximalist.
• 1:03:40
  He's got to kind of create this shit coins and create some
• 1:03:42
  camouflage to get the, you know, to get the, you know, the Trojan
• 1:03:46
  horse through the door. And then when the Trojan horse
• 1:03:48
  realizes, oh, like if we incentivize our only these
• 1:03:51
  miners and not those miners, like, look, Russia's kicking her
• 1:03:54
  ass. China's kicking her ass.
• 1:03:55
  We have to change the rules, you know, So that's what's the
• 1:03:57
  beauty about this thing, is that Bitcoin changes you.
• 1:04:00
  You don't get to change Bitcoin. Absolutely.
• 1:04:03
  Amen to that, guys. We're going to be right back
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  you. All right, yeah, Nico's going to
• 1:07:57
  run, so just say goodbye to G Money and then I'll handle this.
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  Love you G. Money.
• 1:08:02
  Love you Nico. Thanks for joining the show bro,
• 1:08:04
  like I'll win. Brother anytime.
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  All right, all right, now the real fun will have it now.
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  No, no, no, no. Well, we'll keep it.
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  We'll keep it. Well, you know, Nico looked at
• 1:08:14
  me crazy off screen. He's like oh shit.
• 1:08:17
  OK, well, I look this one. This is a selfish question, OK,
• 1:08:21
  for we'll we'll take the conversation where it goes after
• 1:08:24
  this. But G money, I was on your show.
• 1:08:27
  I don't even remember at this point.
• 1:08:28
  What was that like 20-20, maybe 2021 A couple?
• 1:08:31
  Years ago, maybe two years ago, yeah, maybe a year now.
• 1:08:33
  OK, we got to get you back on by the way.
• 1:08:35
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd love to. And I just I remember
• 1:08:38
  specifically you and your Co host and I'm blanking on his
• 1:08:42
  name so forgive me, but you guys were always talking about the Q
• 1:08:46
  Anon stuff and you're like, do you believe it?
• 1:08:48
  Are you into it? And I'm like, well, you know, I
• 1:08:51
  haven't really, you know, dove deep into it at all.
• 1:08:54
  But from some of the stuff I hear, I'm like, it's very
• 1:08:56
  interesting. And then I saw something
• 1:08:59
  interesting happen from your account in the most in like the
• 1:09:03
  recent months where it seemed like you were shitting on the Q
• 1:09:07
  Anon guys. But I know you like you're
• 1:09:10
  you're kind of pro the message, but then you were like calling
• 1:09:14
  them Q tards and stuff. So where where do you stand
• 1:09:17
  here? And, and what's like the
• 1:09:18
  overarching kind of philosophy that you currently have right
• 1:09:21
  now in regards to the Q Anon I, I don't even know what to call
• 1:09:27
  it. You know, most people will call
• 1:09:28
  it conspiracy, but like the Q Anon kind of movement.
• 1:09:31
  Yeah. And so great question, right?
• 1:09:34
  But Q is absolutely 100% a real military psyop by the white
• 1:09:39
  hats, OK. And and like you can say, oh,
• 1:09:42
  how can you prove it? Like, well, you can
• 1:09:43
  mathematically prove it, OK? The coincidences that happen to
• 1:09:46
  show up on 4 Chan and 8 Chan combined with presidential
• 1:09:49
  tweets and actual future news that came out are undeniably
• 1:09:53
  like the same odds of guessing a private key.
• 1:09:55
  OK, so like it's kind of the same the the Satoshi thing like
• 1:09:58
  if I have to try to convince you or whatever, like sorry, I don't
• 1:10:01
  have the time like like go go go try it yourself, right, But like
• 1:10:04
  I'm not here to convince people about it right, But most of the
• 1:10:08
  people that were into the Q Anon movement OK, are not bitcoiners.
• 1:10:11
  They don't understand that the entire operation was about
• 1:10:15
  separating money from state. And so I call them Q tars
• 1:10:18
  because most bugs they worship Trump and they want to vote hard
• 1:10:24
  and access to pedophiles. And so I call them Q charges
• 1:10:27
  because they don't have any Bitcoin.
• 1:10:28
  They're pushing a proof of sake shit coin democracy, right,
• 1:10:32
  America, government, whatever, which is not the way the future
• 1:10:36
  is going to be. And so like when, when this Q
• 1:10:39
  thing happened, like I truly believe it's a biblical
• 1:10:43
  transformation. And like a new president coming
• 1:10:46
  into into play is not a biblical transformation.
• 1:10:48
  Sorry, right, Like someone winning a four year election is
• 1:10:51
  not anything but like an entirely new monetary system
• 1:10:55
  from 5000 years ago that gets replaced in that humans can no
• 1:10:58
  longer control the creation of money.
• 1:11:00
  Like wow, talk about a biblical transformation.
• 1:11:03
  And you know, you posted about John Perry Barlow, you posted
• 1:11:06
  about the the Zionist banking system, right?
• 1:11:09
  You posted about pedophiles and government that ran the entire
• 1:11:12
  thing. And so the movement was
• 1:11:14
  absolutely real. It was a handful of people
• 1:11:17
  right, that were involved in it. And you know, look, there's no Q
• 1:11:22
  without Bitcoin and there's no Bitcoin without Qi.
• 1:11:25
  Hate to break it to both sides and but here's the problem.
• 1:11:28
  The Q people are right, there is evil.
• 1:11:31
  There is absolute tyranny. There is all these horrible
• 1:11:34
  things, right from from child sex trafficking to all these
• 1:11:38
  horrible things, bio labs, everything right?
• 1:11:41
  And the bitcoins are right. Like the money is fucked.
• 1:11:44
  We need to have a new financial but and so here's the here's the
• 1:11:48
  dichotomy. The Bitcoiners don't understand
• 1:11:50
  the evil, OK, and the Q tards don't understand the Bitcoin
• 1:11:54
  part of it. And so like when both sides
• 1:11:56
  realize, hey Bitcoiners, it really is that evil and hey Q
• 1:12:01
  tards, you really need to replace the money.
• 1:12:04
  Then we get to this special place.
• 1:12:06
  And it's funny because Donald Trump actually talked about this
• 1:12:08
  in Nashville. He says, you know, a lot of
• 1:12:10
  people don't know what it what the hell it even is.
• 1:12:12
  But when they figure it out, that'll be something special,
• 1:12:15
  you know, and and and Trump's, you know, one of his famous
• 1:12:17
  quotes is Trump is a Bitcoin is about freedom, sovereignty and
• 1:12:22
  independence from government, coercion and control, OK.
• 1:12:25
  And that last sentence is software.
• 1:12:27
  That last sentence is digital 1776, OK?
• 1:12:30
  We the people, right, need to take our balls back, need to
• 1:12:33
  stand up to the corruption of this government, OK?
• 1:12:36
  Because we're not running into redcoats with muskets.
• 1:12:39
  OK, today maybe we have to go to jail if we don't pay our taxes.
• 1:12:42
  But people like me have not been paying our taxes for 6-7 years.
• 1:12:45
  They send me letters and I wipe my ass with them.
• 1:12:47
  I go go fuck yourself right? Come and get me licenses.
• 1:12:51
  So when enough of us do it, it is a DDoS attack on their
• 1:12:56
  enforcement bureaucracy. They can't build enough jails to
• 1:12:59
  to, you know, put all of us in there.
• 1:13:01
  They can't confiscate our wealth.
• 1:13:03
  And if I do have to go to jail, like, what am I going to do?
• 1:13:05
  I'm going to sit there with free room and board while my Bitcoin
• 1:13:07
  keeps appreciating. And eventually they're going to
• 1:13:09
  let me out. At the same time, they're
• 1:13:11
  letting criminals who are raping and murdering people off after
• 1:13:14
  six months. I mean, talk about the entire,
• 1:13:17
  like, clown show of a world we live in.
• 1:13:20
  It's really kind of just forcing people to either nut up or shut
• 1:13:24
  up. Yeah, no, that, that makes
• 1:13:27
  perfect sense to me 'cause I, I'd see you going back and forth
• 1:13:30
  and I'm like, wait, I know, I know he loves the Q Anon stuff
• 1:13:34
  and now he's calling them Q tards and I'm like, OK, I, I'm
• 1:13:37
  confused at this point, but what you just said makes perfect
• 1:13:40
  sense to me. And you did hit on something
• 1:13:42
  that I've mentioned a lot on the show before that what is very
• 1:13:46
  interesting. And I I, I know you've ran into
• 1:13:49
  it because of the circles that you are on online, but I've
• 1:13:53
  gotten yelled at on this show in the chat a lot where I'll have
• 1:13:56
  people come into the show and they'll call us like anti
• 1:13:59
  American because we're bitcoiners.
• 1:14:01
  And I always found it super interesting that a lot of people
• 1:14:06
  wrap their nationalism, their patriotism with the dollar.
• 1:14:09
  Like it it's you can't separate it.
• 1:14:12
  And from our perspective, a Bitcoin is like, look, you can
• 1:14:15
  be proud of your country and still be a Bitcoiner and not be
• 1:14:18
  anti your country. So what?
• 1:14:20
  What is your usual response to someone that has, you know,
• 1:14:24
  again in the framing that I usually use their patriotism
• 1:14:27
  wrapped in the dollar? Yeah, they just don't, they
• 1:14:30
  don't, they don't understand money, right.
• 1:14:32
  And, and there's also a cognitive dissonance there where
• 1:14:35
  like, if we're right, their entire worldview is completely
• 1:14:39
  shattered and they they can't handle it.
• 1:14:40
  They mentally are, are coping, right?
• 1:14:42
  They're coping. They have to come up with some
• 1:14:44
  excuse, some type of logic to make their brain feel
• 1:14:47
  comfortable that they were wrong about this technology.
• 1:14:49
  And so like, you know, I don't try to convince people anymore.
• 1:14:52
  People in my world, they know what I do.
• 1:14:54
  They know where I'm where I'm, where I stand at.
• 1:14:56
  And if they want to hop on board, that's great.
• 1:14:58
  But you know, this is, you know, we've never had like a natural
• 1:15:01
  predator to essentially like sort out the good humans in a
• 1:15:05
  sense, right? And this is like what's
• 1:15:07
  happening. And I'm not, I'm not trying to
• 1:15:09
  be arrogant or anything. I'm literally saying like, look,
• 1:15:12
  you know, the Cantillian effect, the politician has always made
• 1:15:14
  it like the worst of the worst of the worst.
• 1:15:16
  People always seek these places of power because they know they
• 1:15:21
  can get preferential treatment. And so in a world where nobody
• 1:15:24
  gets preferential treatment and everything is about value add,
• 1:15:27
  like those parasites actually can't live in that world, you
• 1:15:31
  know? And so like, it's a completely
• 1:15:33
  new world where only value is going to be rewarded with with
• 1:15:36
  value. And so we can't fathom it
• 1:15:39
  because we've never lived in a world that operates that way
• 1:15:42
  because we've always had to use exploitation of our, you know,
• 1:15:47
  resources to steal from other people in a sense, right?
• 1:15:49
  Because we've never been able to pass on the technological
• 1:15:53
  benefits to everybody because the people at the top keep
• 1:15:56
  stealing from the rest of us. You know, that's essentially
• 1:15:58
  what's happening. Yeah, no, 100%.
• 1:16:01
  I, I love that take. OK, I do want to pivot a little
• 1:16:06
  bit. It's still going to be in the
• 1:16:07
  same vein, but we kind of got the your long term view of where
• 1:16:11
  Bitcoin is going, what what's going to happen in the future.
• 1:16:14
  But I do want to kind of, you know, narrow it down to where do
• 1:16:18
  we currently stand in geopolitics and you know, the
• 1:16:22
  macro landscape, What do you see going on?
• 1:16:24
  And I'm sure you're familiar with like kind of the different
• 1:16:26
  sides. You know, we have the from our
• 1:16:29
  audience perspective, we have like the Tom Luongo, you know,
• 1:16:32
  Trump 5D, you know, chess, he's reordering global trade.
• 1:16:37
  It's going to benefit this is America first.
• 1:16:39
  And then we have the the Simon Dixon view where it's like Trump
• 1:16:44
  works for the financial industrial complex, you know,
• 1:16:47
  like he's a Trojan horse for the globalist, etcetera, etcetera.
• 1:16:53
  So what, what is your current view of where we are in the
• 1:16:56
  Middle East, considering, you know, the war in Iran, the stuff
• 1:16:59
  going on in Ukraine versus Russia, and then of course,
• 1:17:02
  Bitcoin being a part of this. So like, what is your short term
• 1:17:06
  view of where we are in geopolitics and macro in in like
• 1:17:10
  this very moment? You, you told us the grand we're
• 1:17:12
  going to win perspective, but what is your perspective of
• 1:17:16
  where we currently are? Yeah, and be very careful of
• 1:17:19
  City of London fed boys like Simon Dixon who will give you
• 1:17:22
  95% truth and then go dooming out on everything else.
• 1:17:25
  And so Simon Dixon is a is a psyop operative black pillar.
• 1:17:29
  Be be very careful with dangerous.
• 1:17:32
  You know people like him. But here's the deal, right?
• 1:17:34
  People don't understand the story of Iran.
• 1:17:36
  I'm funny enough, I'm half Iranian.
• 1:17:38
  So my dad was actually born in Iran.
• 1:17:40
  I have a you know, I have a knack for that culture.
• 1:17:42
  It's a beautiful culture, right? The the Zostrians created
• 1:17:45
  mathematics like they, they were the beauty of all this thing
• 1:17:47
  until Islam came and kind of ruined some of that, right?
• 1:17:49
  But look, people don't realize that when Iran tried to
• 1:17:54
  nationalize their oil, which would have kicked out the
• 1:17:56
  British, which would have kicked out the Zionists, which would
• 1:17:59
  have kicked out all these grifters that were essentially
• 1:18:02
  Britain built their entire, you know, Navy on the grift of the
• 1:18:06
  Iranian oil trade, right? And they were going to take
• 1:18:09
  their power back. What happened?
• 1:18:10
  They caused a revolution. They, the Mossad CIA put
• 1:18:14
  Khomeini in OK. And so Iran has been controlled
• 1:18:18
  by Mossad Zion and his bankers for 50-60 years, you know, and
• 1:18:21
  so Trump is uprooting an entire system of control.
• 1:18:25
  We see what's happening with, you know, the Lloyd's of London
• 1:18:28
  insurance about the Straits of Hormuz.
• 1:18:30
  We're seeing Iran take their power back.
• 1:18:32
  And so Trump is uprooting these power structures to give these
• 1:18:36
  countries back to the people that deserve it, not the banking
• 1:18:39
  run cartels, you know, the mullahs that essentially have
• 1:18:43
  impoverished that entire country through the the printing of
• 1:18:45
  money. Have you seen the inflation rate
• 1:18:47
  for the Iranian rial? It's it's, it's, it's insane.
• 1:18:51
  And if that isn't like, you know, systemic theft and
• 1:18:54
  corruption with no hope. I mean, what is that?
• 1:18:58
  You know, that's complete tyranny.
• 1:19:00
  And so look, Trump is uprooting these systems.
• 1:19:02
  And I can't claim to know I know everything, right?
• 1:19:05
  I'm just saying from my perspective that a lot of these
• 1:19:08
  power, power brokers have been in control for a long period of
• 1:19:11
  time, like in Venezuela, like in Iran.
• 1:19:14
  And So what is the next move? I don't technically know.
• 1:19:17
  I don't know where all these power structures like reside.
• 1:19:20
  But I do know after Trump took out Khomeini, right, what
• 1:19:23
  happened? They started accepting Bitcoin
• 1:19:25
  through the Strait of Hormuz, where they didn't do that
• 1:19:27
  before, you know, knowing it's the only currency that is, you
• 1:19:30
  know, non confiscatable and they kept getting their tether frozen
• 1:19:33
  or whatever their stable coins. And so look, Trump is doing
• 1:19:36
  these things. He's playing this masterful game
• 1:19:38
  of chess, in my opinion, and the people that don't believe it,
• 1:19:42
  Well, like, that's that's fine. Like you can you can do
• 1:19:44
  mountain. Look, I don't pay my taxes.
• 1:19:46
  Like I literally am am like, honestly, like, you know, kind
• 1:19:50
  of defying Trump's government in a sense, right?
• 1:19:53
  But I can see the the pieces he's putting together.
• 1:19:55
  He's eliminating the IRS. He's putting in tariffs, by the
• 1:19:58
  way, which funded, you know, this entire country before 1913.
• 1:20:02
  And you can go back to like, what is it the 1980s where
• 1:20:06
  Ronald Reagan, right on June 30th, 1982, put together
• 1:20:10
  Executive Order 12369 that proved zero.
• 1:20:15
  OK, 100. So here's what the report said.
• 1:20:19
  The report said that 1/3 of all income taxes are consumed by
• 1:20:22
  waste and inefficiency in the federal government and 1/3
• 1:20:25
  escapes collection owing to underground economy.
• 1:20:28
  With 2/3 of everyone's personal income taxes wasted or not
• 1:20:31
  collected, 100% of what is collected is absorbed solely by
• 1:20:36
  interest on the federal debt and by federal government
• 1:20:38
  contributions to transfer payments.
• 1:20:40
  In other words, all individual income tax revenues are gone
• 1:20:44
  before 1 nickel is spent on the services that taxpayers expect
• 1:20:48
  from their government. This is in 1982, by the way.
• 1:20:53
  The term drain the swamp was actually famous in that, in that
• 1:20:57
  thing. But go back to go back to the
• 1:20:58
  Grace Commission. It wasn't even, you know, 50
• 1:21:00
  years ago almost. Yeah, and you know, just a quick
• 1:21:05
  maps here. The national debt has only
• 1:21:07
  increased by, I don't know, a hundredfold since the 80s.
• 1:21:10
  So like, you know, I, I, it's probably gotten even worse
• 1:21:16
  anyways, I I, I love that response, but G money.
• 1:21:21
  OK, so I think let me let me check the chat real quick.
• 1:21:24
  I think the chats loving this. By the way, I actually have one
• 1:21:27
  more question. I I'll have another one, but you
• 1:21:30
  did mention earlier that Bitcoin was created by the white hats.
• 1:21:35
  Now, obviously, again, you've been saying very clearly, like
• 1:21:39
  you don't argue with people, but what is your perspective on the,
• 1:21:45
  in my opinion, very elementary and bad take around Bitcoin that
• 1:21:51
  it's created by the CIA And then, you know, that's why I
• 1:21:54
  shouldn't be holding Bitcoin. It seems like it's been paraded
• 1:21:57
  a lot this year in particular to obviously scare people away from
• 1:22:02
  Bitcoin. But what is your response to
• 1:22:03
  that question if if you are trying to convince someone?
• 1:22:07
  Now comes back to again, the NGOs, the political Activision
• 1:22:11
  groups, like we even had Kevin O'Leary recently talk about his
• 1:22:14
  Utah data center and he was surprised at all the push back
• 1:22:17
  and all the collective, you know, you know, what is it?
• 1:22:23
  They were basically protesting, right?
• 1:22:24
  Collective protesting and all these different things.
• 1:22:26
  They did all the research and did some, you know, private
• 1:22:28
  investigation and found out it's connected to all these NGOs, all
• 1:22:31
  these political active groups. And so like the news out there
• 1:22:34
  that Steen and that this is all, you know, fake news, it's all
• 1:22:39
  activism, it's all NGOs, probably our taxpayer dollars
• 1:22:42
  that are trying to stop people from basically implementing this
• 1:22:45
  technology. Because look, the Zionist
• 1:22:48
  bankers, the parasites that control everything, we are going
• 1:22:51
  to them. We are the tax cattle that we
• 1:22:53
  are less than human. And when you realize that people
• 1:22:56
  that are less than human have to produce for other people to
• 1:22:59
  live. They can't live in a world that
• 1:23:01
  they have to create their own value because they're constantly
• 1:23:03
  taking our energy and using it for their own livelihood.
• 1:23:06
  OK, so that's that system is ending.
• 1:23:08
  Those people, the Vatican, the Zionists, whatever you want to
• 1:23:11
  call them, OK. I've been doing this for a very
• 1:23:13
  long time. And so when you realize that our
• 1:23:16
  military is not all bad people, there actually are some good
• 1:23:19
  people there. And you realize that not
• 1:23:22
  everybody in the government has to be involved in this plan to
• 1:23:24
  make it successful, right? It's open source code.
• 1:23:27
  It's independent machines. It's minors, it's incentives.
• 1:23:30
  It's not like you needed the, you know, a big group of
• 1:23:32
  government officials to all coordinate this.
• 1:23:35
  Then you realize, like, wow, like something is going on here.
• 1:23:38
  And look, you know, it all goes back to, you know, America needs
• 1:23:40
  Bitcoin the least. So why is this the strongest
• 1:23:43
  voice in the entire world champion this new technology
• 1:23:47
  that at the end of the day, actually weakens our control
• 1:23:51
  over the monetary system that we control currently?
• 1:23:54
  Because what's going to happen is Trump is implementing
• 1:23:56
  something that will outlast all of our lives.
• 1:24:00
  OK? Like, this is a very pivotal
• 1:24:01
  time. And I think the next, the next
• 1:24:04
  thing that Bitcoiners are really missing though, is tokenization.
• 1:24:07
  Organization is going to expand the Bitcoin network to 8 billion
• 1:24:10
  people. We're going to have full truth
• 1:24:12
  and transparency and free markets in our capital
• 1:24:15
  structure. And so I think people are really
• 1:24:18
  missing the boat, especially Bitcoiners that don't understand
• 1:24:21
  that we need to anchor other systems to the main layer, not
• 1:24:25
  through layer one, through layer 2's, not ordinals and all that
• 1:24:27
  other stuff, but that we need to use this truth engine to provide
• 1:24:32
  truth and transparency to systems for the future of, of,
• 1:24:37
  of the race of our, of our society.
• 1:24:40
  OK, Yeah, I've I've been definitely every time I hear
• 1:24:44
  tokenization coming from like Larry Fink or we've heard it
• 1:24:46
  from SEC Chair Atkins, you know, we've heard it from I'm blanking
• 1:24:52
  on a few of the other people that we've heard recent, but
• 1:24:54
  that's like the latest trend that that we have been hearing
• 1:24:56
  that conversation coming from the big institutions.
• 1:24:59
  Almost all of Wall Street is definitely embracing that.
• 1:25:02
  And I think my initial knee jerk reaction was like, oh, here we
• 1:25:05
  go. Like Wall Street shit coining is
• 1:25:07
  going to be at a level we have never seen before.
• 1:25:10
  But from your from that vantage point of what you're saying, oh,
• 1:25:14
  wait, sorry Sailor been going very hard on tokenization
• 1:25:17
  recently. He's definitely been pushing
• 1:25:19
  that. I saw a recent interview this
• 1:25:20
  morning that that I'll probably cover for you guys tomorrow.
• 1:25:23
  He mentioned that exact idea. So maybe could you expand just
• 1:25:28
  for our because our audience is hardcore, you know, Bitcoin
• 1:25:30
  maxies, they're like, if it's not Bitcoin, it's a shit coin.
• 1:25:33
  Everything else is a shit coin. They won't hear it.
• 1:25:35
  So could you just explain again, maybe in a different context?
• 1:25:39
  Like what? What is tokenization in your
• 1:25:42
  mind? Like, how is this going to work
• 1:25:44
  out? I think you kind of hit on what
• 1:25:46
  it what it will do, but like what?
• 1:25:49
  How do you describe tokenization to a hardcore bitcoiner?
• 1:25:52
  Yeah. And this is a great way because
• 1:25:54
  we have to 1st understand the problem, OK?
• 1:25:56
  Why tokenization? OK, When you go back and peel
• 1:25:59
  back the layers of Wall Street and you realize that 75% of Wall
• 1:26:04
  Street's revenue comes from securities lending.
• 1:26:09
  What is securities lending? G money.
• 1:26:11
  Securities lending is the rehypothecation of equities.
• 1:26:15
  Does everybody remember what happened with GameStop?
• 1:26:18
  I think everybody remembers they froze trading.
• 1:26:21
  There was dark pools, there was more actual naked short selling
• 1:26:24
  of the equity than shares available.
• 1:26:27
  OK. And so look a a free functioning
• 1:26:31
  society needs healthy capital markets.
• 1:26:34
  I if I want to invest in some company in El Salvador, I should
• 1:26:37
  be able to do that freely without any, any government
• 1:26:39
  interference and I can do it peer-to-peer, OK Plus it
• 1:26:43
  provides full transparency, full accountability.
• 1:26:46
  Because what's happening now? Just the other day, I think 1.2
• 1:26:48
  billion of ibit was sold in a dark pool.
• 1:26:51
  What is a dark pool? Opti, What is that?
• 1:26:54
  Why do we have to have dark pools for equities?
• 1:26:57
  Equities should be fully transparent.
• 1:26:59
  They should be fully traded on blockchain, on Bitcoin, OK, on a
• 1:27:03
  layer 2, not layer one. I'm not an Ordinals guy, I'm not
• 1:27:06
  an inscriptions guy, but you know, we need to provide truth
• 1:27:10
  and transparency to capital markets because one day Opti,
• 1:27:13
  you may decide to start a company and instead of hiring 40
• 1:27:16
  lawyers and $4,000,000 to get SEC approval to raise money, you
• 1:27:21
  know, you're a good guy. I've known you for years.
• 1:27:23
  If you want to start something that you probably a brilliant
• 1:27:25
  idea, I should be able to put my money and faith in you and say,
• 1:27:28
  you know what, I want to support Opti to support whatever venture
• 1:27:31
  he's doing because it sounds like a really good idea.
• 1:27:33
  You know, maybe you crack something with AI or whatever,
• 1:27:35
  and maybe I'll get paid it for investing with you, right?
• 1:27:38
  And the world needs open capital markets.
• 1:27:40
  Yes, you're going to have scammers.
• 1:27:42
  Yes, you're going to have all these people.
• 1:27:43
  But isn't a free market, a permissionless free market
• 1:27:47
  better than having a government entity control who gets access
• 1:27:50
  to this? You know, that's really the
• 1:27:52
  conversation. Do you believe in free capital
• 1:27:53
  markets or do you believe in a group, a small group of people
• 1:27:57
  controlling access to capital markets?
• 1:27:59
  And that's why I believe a lot of technologies have been
• 1:28:02
  repressed, right? Because what is Wall Street,
• 1:28:04
  right? They go, they naked shell the
• 1:28:08
  hell out of it. The company goes bankrupt, they
• 1:28:11
  take the technology, stick it in the backroom or whatever.
• 1:28:14
  And that's why we have these monopoly of, of corporations
• 1:28:17
  that run the entire world, because we haven't had a free
• 1:28:19
  market. There's never been free market
• 1:28:21
  capitalism in the equities market.
• 1:28:24
  And believe it or not, it's much, much bigger then we can
• 1:28:27
  even fathom. And so look, I put together
• 1:28:30
  research that points to a layer 2 technology that's been around
• 1:28:34
  since 2014. It's literally where Bitcoin
• 1:28:36
  maximalism, the term Vitalik coined it came from.
• 1:28:39
  And it follows the thermodynamic rule of Bitcoin, which means
• 1:28:43
  energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred.
• 1:28:47
  And so this this protocol was a protocol that was introduced to
• 1:28:50
  where people burned real Bitcoin, sent to a provably
• 1:28:55
  unspentable Bitcoin address and in turn received this token for
• 1:28:58
  a three month burn period that only created a certain number of
• 1:29:01
  these tokens. And so if you understand that
• 1:29:03
  burned Bitcoin, OK, isn't really burned, it's just energy he has
• 1:29:09
  the keys to then you realize like, wow, this is something
• 1:29:12
  that is, is special and people really need to take a look at
• 1:29:16
  because I believe in my research, I've improved on chain
• 1:29:20
  that all these things are connected.
• 1:29:22
  So it's an interesting conversation, but it's, it's a
• 1:29:24
  longer 1. And that's why I try to like,
• 1:29:26
  you know, at least caveat it with, Hey, what is the problem?
• 1:29:28
  We're trying to solve the tokization, right?
• 1:29:30
  Because that's a problem. And Bitcoin is just sticking
• 1:29:32
  their heads in the sand and be like, well, Etherium or Solana
• 1:29:34
  will solve it. And then that's just the same
• 1:29:36
  system we have. They're going to run dark pools
• 1:29:38
  and control the network at some point anyway.
• 1:29:39
  We need to have a permissionless access to free capital markets,
• 1:29:42
  in my opinion. I I absolutely love it G money
• 1:29:46
  because one of the things I've been saying recently and me and
• 1:29:49
  Nico have been arguing and in particular when I, when I talk
• 1:29:51
  about this, it's usually like the four year cycle kind of
• 1:29:53
  idea. But one of the main messages
• 1:29:55
  I've been kind of trying to get across to our audience is like,
• 1:29:58
  look, we have, you know, Bitcoin first principles that we base
• 1:30:03
  everything off of, but I think you're doing yourself a
• 1:30:07
  disservice. And then at from our perspective
• 1:30:09
  as content creators, the audience A disservice if we are
• 1:30:12
  not trying to update our models and try to update our thinking
• 1:30:16
  and see clearer because look, we both acknowledge like, I don't,
• 1:30:20
  I don't claim to have all the answers, you know, I'm just
• 1:30:22
  giving you my vantage point. I look at what the chat saying,
• 1:30:26
  you guys correct me, I ingest that.
• 1:30:28
  I try to get better every single day.
• 1:30:30
  But I think what I have seen recently is that a lot of
• 1:30:36
  Bitcoiners haven't really updated their mental models.
• 1:30:39
  They're still just kind of working on old views and old
• 1:30:42
  models of what Bitcoin has done in the past.
• 1:30:45
  And my main kind of idea recently, and I, I think you
• 1:30:48
  probably will echo this, is like things have changed.
• 1:30:52
  Things are fundamentally changing.
• 1:30:54
  And you know, I know the this time is different meme is like
• 1:30:57
  the you you just said, like the name that shall not be named,
• 1:31:01
  you know, but it does feel as if things are different now.
• 1:31:06
  And if you aren't acknowledging that things are different, then
• 1:31:09
  you might be left in the in old, you know, Bitcoin kind of
• 1:31:14
  tropes. And we have seen a culture war
• 1:31:17
  happening right now. You know, they're like Bitcoin
• 1:31:20
  codis versus whatever, you know, the ordinals guys or the core
• 1:31:25
  guys versus not bit 110 guys. Like we are seeing the culture
• 1:31:29
  fracture right now because a lot of people, I, I would argue, are
• 1:31:33
  still thinking in, you know, past models of how Bitcoin
• 1:31:37
  worked, at least how we thought it worked.
• 1:31:40
  And I, I'm, I've been trying to just like step back and be
• 1:31:44
  objective to all of it and be like, OK, look, this is how I
• 1:31:47
  think Bitcoin works. But also it's not really just
• 1:31:51
  what I think. I'm like, what is actually
• 1:31:53
  happening in reality so that we can continue to progress and
• 1:31:57
  update our thinking so that we have the best vantage point
• 1:32:01
  moving forward. So it's like, you know, you hear
• 1:32:03
  people, it's almost like the B cash, you know, Bitcoin fork
• 1:32:07
  where like the B cashiers had the Satoshi words themselves.
• 1:32:10
  And they're like, this is Satoshi's vision and what
• 1:32:13
  happened. It's like they got left in the
• 1:32:15
  past and they're still, you know, reiterating the same
• 1:32:17
  narratives that we heard, you know, years ago.
• 1:32:21
  And they're like, we're right. And it's like, yeah, well, you
• 1:32:23
  might quote be right, but economically, like you lost, you
• 1:32:27
  know, like that's what I keep thinking.
• 1:32:29
  I'm like, OK, let's be pragmatic about this.
• 1:32:32
  I have my personal opinions, my personal biases here, but we
• 1:32:38
  should be updating what we're thinking so that we can better
• 1:32:41
  align with the reality. And that's why I love talking
• 1:32:43
  with G money because sometimes you're like, man, my friends are
• 1:32:46
  absolute insane lunatics, But then you ingest it and you're
• 1:32:50
  like, he does be making a lot of points like there's, you know,
• 1:32:53
  there's a good there's a good perspective to what's going on
• 1:32:56
  here. Well, I think.
• 1:32:57
  You can apply the same Bitcoin maximalism to all these other
• 1:32:59
  things like is it, is it, is it permissionless?
• 1:33:02
  Did it have a thermodynamic beginning, right?
• 1:33:05
  Does this provide more freedom or less freedom?
• 1:33:08
  Does this provide more sovereignty or less sovereignty?
• 1:33:10
  Like these are very first brace principles, approaches that you
• 1:33:13
  can use in any argument, right? And so look, Bitcoin is a free
• 1:33:17
  market system, right? And people that are trying to
• 1:33:20
  filter it, trying to change it and put, you know, different
• 1:33:23
  perspectives on it because they think it's only this like that's
• 1:33:27
  going to get wrecked in the long run because Bitcoin is a free
• 1:33:30
  market. You know, the fee is the filter
• 1:33:32
  essentially. And, you know, we've never had
• 1:33:35
  an immutable Ledger opti who knows what really happened in
• 1:33:38
  the past. We've only been able to see
• 1:33:39
  what's happened through the victors.
• 1:33:41
  And even if, you know, we have to put something on chain, as
• 1:33:43
  Julian Assange called it, we've never had proof of publishing
• 1:33:47
  before. Bitcoin is proof of publishing
• 1:33:49
  that's on chain that can't be altered.
• 1:33:51
  Like, you know, maybe we need to talk about the COVID stuff on
• 1:33:54
  there. Maybe we need to talk about
• 1:33:55
  pedophiles in government. Maybe we need to talk about
• 1:33:57
  these banking systems and put them on chain somehow so people
• 1:33:59
  in the future realize how bad it was in our past and that the,
• 1:34:03
  you know, the textbooks don't reflect that.
• 1:34:04
  Obviously they won't. And so I think, you know what
• 1:34:07
  we're, you know, we need to handle this thing with, with,
• 1:34:09
  with, not with kid gloves. This is anti fragile stuff that
• 1:34:13
  we're just going to have to deal with and and let it take its
• 1:34:15
  course. I absolutely love it.
• 1:34:18
  OK, so last question here and then I'll let you plug you know
• 1:34:23
  your stuff so that everyone can go follow our boy G money.
• 1:34:29
  So we got like your grand view of it.
• 1:34:31
  We got the niche down view of where we currently are.
• 1:34:36
  I've been saying for a while that from my opinion, you know,
• 1:34:41
  I know we said earlier like we are winning, but I also have
• 1:34:47
  maybe it's like a like a fear of us always constantly reiterating
• 1:34:50
  that we are winning. That makes us complacent.
• 1:34:53
  So I've been saying to everyone that watches this show for years
• 1:34:56
  at this point, it's like, in my opinion, we're going to be doing
• 1:34:59
  this for the rest of our lives. Like I, I think this is going to
• 1:35:02
  be a lifelong battle. And, and I'm in my 30s, you
• 1:35:05
  know, so I like, I think I'm mentally just preparing
• 1:35:07
  everyone. It's like, look, I know we all
• 1:35:10
  want Bitcoin number to go up, but we also got to remember it's
• 1:35:13
  a marathon, not a Sprint. I want everyone to be locked in
• 1:35:17
  to be able to do this for a very long time.
• 1:35:19
  So I say all that context to ask you the question G money.
• 1:35:23
  How long do you think this entire process is going to be?
• 1:35:26
  Are you one of these guys that thinks like 10 years, you know,
• 1:35:30
  bitcoins, whatever, millions of dollars fully integrated into
• 1:35:33
  the system and we basically already won?
• 1:35:36
  Or are you of the opinion like this is going to be a multi
• 1:35:39
  decade battle? Yeah, look, I think it's going
• 1:35:43
  to go really quick, really quickly here in the next couple
• 1:35:45
  of years, OK. Because, you know, look, Admiral
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  Papparo, Secretary of War Pete Hagseth is talking about
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  Bitcoin, his power projection technologies.
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  And so this is well beyond money, right?
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  This is this is as China looking, this has Russia
• 1:35:59
  looking. And so the hash war has been
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  going on. It's been it's now being out in
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  the open. Now the hash war is out in the
• 1:36:05
  open. Our United States government,
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  it's funny because it's almost like we're helping the enemy in
• 1:36:10
  a sense. Egg them like, hey, guys, if you
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  don't adopt this technology, you, you might want to.
• 1:36:16
  And so that's only going to force function this even
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  quicker. And so I think there's going to
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  be some surprises. I think we're in for a very
• 1:36:25
  entertaining outcome. And so, you know, don't get too
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  bored, don't get too depressed. Go out and touch grass.
• 1:36:31
  Go out and work on yourself. Don't look at the Fiat number
• 1:36:33
  every day. And look at what's working
• 1:36:40
  fundamentally with our world. It's, it's changing for the
• 1:36:43
  better. And so we, if you just got to
• 1:36:45
  have an optimistic look on this stuff, like, I mean, you know,
• 1:36:48
  what a what a time to be alive, to be living through one of the,
• 1:36:51
  you know, biggest transitions in the, the Society of humans.
• 1:36:55
  You know what could be better? We're seeing starships take off
• 1:36:58
  and do this incredible things. And we're just seeing unlimited
• 1:37:01
  technologies being released. We're seeing AI.
• 1:37:03
  And so I just, I'm super optimistic.
• 1:37:05
  I'm a super opti on all this stuff because look, without
• 1:37:09
  Bitcoin, I hate to tell you, the world is a very, very dark and
• 1:37:13
  dim place. And so we've been gifted a very
• 1:37:16
  special technology. And so you should appreciate
• 1:37:18
  that and you should do what you can, right, to help the cause
• 1:37:21
  and do what it is, because it's not what Bitcoin can do for you,
• 1:37:24
  it's what you can do for Bitcoin.
• 1:37:27
  Bars, bars. Absolutely loving G money.
• 1:37:30
  No, I I did want to troll. I'm like, wait, spaceships, like
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  I thought the world was flat. You know, we got the flat
• 1:37:34
  earthers in the chat. I thought the world flat.
• 1:37:36
  Wait, hold on, hold on. What's what's going on here?
• 1:37:40
  No, Hey, G money, I always enjoy talking to you.
• 1:37:43
  It's been way too long. I I'll reach out to you, I'll DM
• 1:37:46
  you and I'll schedule something with you so perfect that you
• 1:37:49
  guys can blow my mind on your channel here.
• 1:37:52
  You know, expose we've exposed our audience to you and I'll go
• 1:37:57
  on NBA 42 IQ idiot on your channel and have some fun.
• 1:38:01
  So not at all really appreciate it.
• 1:38:02
  But, but on that note, G Money, would you please plug your
• 1:38:06
  socials for our audience? Because obviously I'm always of
• 1:38:11
  the opinion, like, you know, see a lot of opinions and like we
• 1:38:16
  have critical thinking here still, right, guys?
• 1:38:19
  So just 'cause you're exposed to certain opinions doesn't mean
• 1:38:22
  you have to necessarily agree with them.
• 1:38:23
  Though with that said, I do agree with a lot of what G Money
• 1:38:26
  says. OK, OK, all right.
• 1:38:29
  But anyway, G Money, plug, plug your show, plug your Twitter,
• 1:38:33
  where do you want the audience to go?
• 1:38:34
  And then we'll do like a last, you know, last word to our
• 1:38:37
  audience here for UG money. Yeah, GP money pay on XA pay
• 1:38:42
  thing is again about my covfefe dig, it's all provably on chain.
• 1:38:47
  Go check it out. I do a show on rumble rug pull
• 1:38:50
  radio. I've kind of shifted to like
• 1:38:52
  once a month. I'll be honest with you, I've
• 1:38:54
  got a little burned out myself doing them weekly and I'm just
• 1:38:56
  like, you know what I only want to say things that I feel are
• 1:38:58
  important. So I've kind of shifted to once
• 1:39:00
  a month while things are still kind of really like retails
• 1:39:03
  cooked, you know, in a sense. And so I'll probably come back
• 1:39:06
  alive to once a week once we, you know, once things get more
• 1:39:09
  interesting. But I'm also on Telegram.
• 1:39:11
  We're super heavily on Telegram. Telegram is bullion, Bitcoin,
• 1:39:15
  BSA. Lot of fun conversations
• 1:39:17
  happened in there. Again, we're Bitcoin maximalist
• 1:39:19
  guys. We're on the conspiracy side.
• 1:39:21
  But again, everybody's got to create their own, you know,
• 1:39:23
  mosaic of truth. You may take a couple of things
• 1:39:25
  for me and think I'm crazy, but you may take a couple things
• 1:39:27
  that you know what? He's right about that.
• 1:39:28
  So build your own triangle of truth, you know, and implement
• 1:39:32
  it in your own world. But at the end of the day, like
• 1:39:34
  Bitcoin is 1, we're just living through its transition, and so
• 1:39:39
  there's just a lot to be optimistic about.
• 1:39:41
  I, I love that triangle of truth.
• 1:39:45
  I, I use that all the time. I used to always joke that I
• 1:39:49
  outsource my thinking to a lot of people because I'm too lazy
• 1:39:51
  to actually think. And it's like, let me, you know,
• 1:39:54
  compare these different perspectives and I'm usually
• 1:39:56
  like, OK, I'm kind of like in the middle of all of this.
• 1:39:59
  But anyways, OK, G money. Last, last message to the
• 1:40:05
  audience, you know, 2 minute platform is yours.
• 1:40:08
  What is the final message you want to leave with the Simply
• 1:40:10
  Bitcoin audience on the Rumble? The Rumble exclusive Simply
• 1:40:13
  Bitcoin audience. So floor is yours, G Money and
• 1:40:16
  then we'll wrap up today's show. Yeah, we are in a fifth
• 1:40:19
  generation war, a war of information.
• 1:40:22
  The battle space is between your ears, OK?
• 1:40:24
  It is in your head. And so you need to realize and
• 1:40:27
  use very hard discernment on what is out there because get
• 1:40:30
  you to take a Covic shot if you eat a doughnut, right?
• 1:40:33
  Get us to believe you. And, you know, have a politician
• 1:40:36
  say, hey, you know, if you trust me with this, I'm going to do
• 1:40:38
  this for you. And so we need to not trust
• 1:40:41
  anybody, unfortunately, OK, We need to verify everything.
• 1:40:44
  And we need to simply just take our power back, right?
• 1:40:46
  And this is just a very simple process of being like, you know
• 1:40:49
  what? I don't support that.
• 1:40:50
  I have a moral obligation to myself because at the end of the
• 1:40:52
  day, right, like our treasure and our, our, you know, our
• 1:40:56
  things are, are going to be measured in heaven, not here on
• 1:40:58
  earth. And so, you know, what does that
• 1:40:59
  mean? That means that, you know,
• 1:41:00
  you're here for a specific purpose.
• 1:41:02
  You are here for a specific reason and I don't need all the
• 1:41:05
  normies on my side. I'm looking for the lions.
• 1:41:07
  I'm looking for the tigers that are done with the status quo.
• 1:41:10
  If you've reached your point, you don't have to grab a musket.
• 1:41:12
  I want you to channel your energy into cyberspace as an
• 1:41:17
  individual sovereign that we network that will live your life
• 1:41:21
  peacefully and just live based upon natural law, right?
• 1:41:24
  And that's really how humans operate until we were Co opted
• 1:41:28
  by groups of people with guns that, you know, force us to do
• 1:41:31
  certain things because they control every asset on the
• 1:41:33
  planet. And so the power has shifted.
• 1:41:36
  The power has been given back to you, but you have to do some
• 1:41:39
  work. You have to take that power
• 1:41:41
  back. Nobody's going to give it to
• 1:41:42
  you. And so learn how to self custody
• 1:41:45
  your Bitcoin, learn how to do things in cyberspace, how to be
• 1:41:48
  a digital revolutionary because we are living through digital
• 1:41:52
  1776 and yeah, love all of you. Let's go, let's go.
• 1:41:59
  Absolutely I. Truly enjoyed this show today as
• 1:42:03
  a chat. I don't know, actually, you
• 1:42:04
  can't see the rumble chat, but me and Nico have been arguing on
• 1:42:08
  the show and like I I was joking earlier and he Nico's like Opti,
• 1:42:12
  you're you're never this optimistic and I'm like, yeah, I
• 1:42:14
  got to deal with you every day, you know, like you bring me
• 1:42:16
  down, bro. You bring me down.
• 1:42:17
  But conversation from with my boy G money.
• 1:42:20
  I'm like, OK, you know, get hit me right in the main vein here.
• 1:42:25
  I I, you know, almost forgot that we are winning what we're
• 1:42:29
  doing here. I obviously I never did, but you
• 1:42:31
  know, sometimes I always joke and and then we'll wrap up
• 1:42:35
  today's show. I'm always like, look, guys,
• 1:42:37
  it's extremely hard being an optimist every single day when
• 1:42:40
  the world's trying to tear you down.
• 1:42:41
  But that's what we have to do. And I always say to everyone on
• 1:42:46
  the chat, when I sign off, it's like I say a couple of things.
• 1:42:48
  It's, you know, make sure you guys are, you know, getting some
• 1:42:51
  exercise in, eat some good food, obviously stacking some Bitcoin,
• 1:42:56
  getting some sun on you guys doing all the things so that you
• 1:42:59
  are physically, mentally and spiritually fit.
• 1:43:01
  And I usually do the have conversations with your friends
• 1:43:04
  and your loved ones and people are like, yeah, OK, whatever.
• 1:43:07
  But this is what I mean. You need to make sure you're
• 1:43:10
  locking in with your boys so that you can, you know what,
• 1:43:14
  triangulate your truth here. So G money.
• 1:43:17
  Thank you so much for showing up today and I'll DM you off the
• 1:43:21
  show once once I get done with some stuff 'cause I'm pretty
• 1:43:24
  sure my DMS are closed right now because so many scammers.
• 1:43:27
  But I'll I'll DM you and and we'll figure out some scheduling
• 1:43:30
  for this. But anyways guys, awesome
• 1:43:31
  brother. I hope you enjoyed our boy G
• 1:43:34
  money on simply. Bitcoin.
• 1:43:36
  Appreciate you dude and we had to we had to move it to rumble.
• 1:43:39
  So sorry about that. You already know you already
• 1:43:41
  know the deal. It's all good G money anyways,
• 1:43:43
  guys, we will see you tomorrow. We will be back to our normally
• 1:43:46
  scheduled programming. On that note, make sure you're
• 1:43:50
  buying more Bitcoin today, taking it into self custody,
• 1:43:54
  doing what you can for Bitcoin so that we can usher in the
• 1:43:59
  digital 1776. I later, man, see you later.
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