Latest / 360 with Katie Woolf / Katie Woolf spoke with It’s a Bloke’s thing Foundation Education Program Facilitator Ruth Logan
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Many of you who listen to the show will know
- 0:02Speaker 1: that I'm fairly heavily involved in fundraising when it comes
- 0:06Speaker 1: to well prostate cancer and men's health. We've got the
- 0:10Speaker 1: Father's Day fun run run with Dad coming up on
- 0:13Speaker 1: Father's Day, and there's also a luncheon that we have
- 0:16Speaker 1: each year for the It's a Blokes Thing Foundation and
- 0:19Speaker 1: the education program facilitator Ruth Logan joins us in the
- 0:22Speaker 1: studio right now. Good morning Ruth, Good morning Katie, and
- 0:25Speaker 1: good morning all the listeners. Now, obviously we had a
- 0:27Speaker 1: massive luncheon earlier in the year. It was wonderful and
- 0:31Speaker 1: plenty of money raised. And what it means is that
- 0:34Speaker 1: then you're back here in the territory, traveling around to
- 0:37Speaker 1: see a lot of those different businesses that were there,
- 0:40Speaker 1: and really going out and speaking to men about their
- 0:44Speaker 1: health and prostate cancer.
- 0:46Speaker 2: That's right. I'm starting that really vital conversation with men
- 0:49Speaker 2: because men are so timid about this, and you can
- 0:51Speaker 2: see them looking a bit shy when we start, but
- 0:54Speaker 2: as the as the talk progresses, they relax. It's about
- 0:58Speaker 2: talking their language, translating the medical jargon into everyday language
- 1:02Speaker 2: that blokes can understand.
- 1:04Speaker 3: It's my role and it's such an important thing to do.
- 1:07Speaker 1: I I'll never forget when my dad was first diagnosed
- 1:10Speaker 1: with prostate cancer and he almost felt a little bit
- 1:12Speaker 1: embarrassed to say that he had prostate cancer.
- 1:14Speaker 3: And I think, you know, we've got to break down
- 1:16Speaker 3: that stigma.
- 1:17Speaker 1: We've got to make sure that we speak about prostate
- 1:20Speaker 1: cancer and men's heell thos openly as we women speak
- 1:23Speaker 1: about this kind of thing.
- 1:24Speaker 2: That's right, Katie, it's a really big deal for blokes
- 1:27Speaker 2: and we need to get the conversation normalized so that
- 1:30Speaker 2: blokes can talk about this like women do. But a
- 1:34Speaker 2: lot of that generation of your men, your father's age,
- 1:36Speaker 2: it was a very secret man's club, and that's why
- 1:40Speaker 2: it's a bloke thing. Foundation was initiated in twemb ten
- 1:44Speaker 2: years ago. Now well it's nearly eleven years actually, and
- 1:48Speaker 2: I have seen so far this year, I've had over
- 1:50Speaker 2: a thousand conversations with blokes about this. And if every
- 1:54Speaker 2: bloke then has another conversation with two or three blokes,
- 1:57Speaker 2: we're getting the message out there that this is not
- 1:59Speaker 2: something to be shamed of. It's something we need to
- 2:01Speaker 2: talk about. And there's two conversations that are really vital.
- 2:05Speaker 2: The first one that I want all the men listening
- 2:07Speaker 2: is to make sure they know their family history. So
- 2:09Speaker 2: have a conversation with your father, your grandfather, your brothers,
- 2:13Speaker 2: your uncles, any men in your life, because you've got
- 2:16Speaker 2: a greater risk of getting prostate cancer if there's someone
- 2:18Speaker 2: else that's had it in your family.
- 2:20Speaker 1: And then if they have, you know, if they do
- 2:22Speaker 1: come from a family that has got that history, what
- 2:25Speaker 1: do they then need to be aware of and what
- 2:27Speaker 1: do they need to sort of do well.
- 2:29Speaker 2: Prostate cancers are very silent assassin, so most men in
- 2:33Speaker 2: the early stages of prostate cancer don't know they've got it,
- 2:36Speaker 2: and so we don't have a screening process like we
- 2:38Speaker 2: do for breast cancer and bowel cancer and cervical cancer.
- 2:42Speaker 2: So we need men to step up to the plate.
- 2:44Speaker 2: And the next conversation they need to have is with
- 2:46Speaker 2: their GP and they need to work out their own
- 2:49Speaker 2: personal prostate plan, because everybody's plan might be different. I've
- 2:53Speaker 2: had five men in my family I have had prostate cancer.
- 2:56Speaker 2: None of them have died from prostate cancer because they
- 2:58Speaker 2: were detected early. And if these blocks are the sort
- 3:01Speaker 2: of blokes that wait till they've got a problem before
- 3:02Speaker 2: they go to the doctor. By the time they get
- 3:05Speaker 2: there it could be too late. So we need you
- 3:07Speaker 2: to do service and maintenance on a regular basis with
- 3:09Speaker 2: your body. And ideally, if you've got a family history,
- 3:13Speaker 2: that service and maintenance plan should start when you're forty
- 3:15Speaker 2: years of age. If you don't know your family history
- 3:18Speaker 2: by the time you're forty five, i'd like you to
- 3:20Speaker 2: have talked to your doctor about this, and if you
- 3:22Speaker 2: know you definitely don't have a family history, then you
- 3:25Speaker 2: might be right to start at fifty with your testing.
- 3:27Speaker 3: Now.
- 3:27Speaker 1: I know that there's lots of talk these days about
- 3:30Speaker 1: your PSA.
- 3:31Speaker 3: And lots of blokes don't actually know what.
- 3:33Speaker 1: Their PSA is and don't know exactly what they need
- 3:36Speaker 1: to be doing.
- 3:37Speaker 3: So Ruth, what is it?
- 3:38Speaker 2: Well, PSA is a blood test, and for those folks listening,
- 3:42Speaker 2: you might be relieved to hear that no longer do
- 3:46Speaker 2: you necessarily require to have a physical examination, which does
- 3:50Speaker 2: tend to be something that puts some men off going
- 3:52Speaker 2: to the doctor. It's ten seconds of indignation, but it
- 3:56Speaker 2: could be a lifesaver for you. Our days, most doctors
- 4:01Speaker 2: will just do a simple blood test, so that's pretty
- 4:03Speaker 2: easy for you to do and you just need to
- 4:06Speaker 2: make sure you have the conversation with your doctor so
- 4:08Speaker 2: it is being checked. It won't necessarily be done unless
- 4:11Speaker 2: you talk about it. And PSA is a prostate specific
- 4:15Speaker 2: antigen and that is a hormone produced by the prostate
- 4:18Speaker 2: That isn't necessarily going to tell you that you've got cancer,
- 4:22Speaker 2: but it will tell you that something is going on
- 4:24Speaker 2: with your prostate. It could be an infection, it could
- 4:27Speaker 2: be an enlargement. There's a lot of reasons why it
- 4:29Speaker 2: can be raised, but it does alert you to the
- 4:31Speaker 2: fact that you need to look further into it.
- 4:33Speaker 1: Now, Ruth, I have had people say to me, I
- 4:36Speaker 1: went to my doctor and asked for a PSA test
- 4:38Speaker 1: and they said I didn't need one. But this is
- 4:42Speaker 1: a recommendation from or this is information from the Prostate
- 4:45Speaker 1: Cancer Foundation of Australia, isn't ash.
- 4:47Speaker 2: Yes, I only give the guidelines based on the Prostate
- 4:50Speaker 2: Cancer Foundation of Australia because that's the organization that we support.
- 4:54Speaker 2: Every dollar that is raised by it's a bloke thing
- 4:56Speaker 2: foundation goes straight to the PCFA and with that we
- 4:59Speaker 2: use research and we use some of the money to
- 5:02Speaker 2: fund our prostate careness and you blokes here in Darwin,
- 5:05Speaker 2: you have your own specialist prostate careness, Ruby based as
- 5:08Speaker 2: a Darwin hospital and she is fabulous and you can
- 5:10Speaker 2: see her free of charge. And we have another two
- 5:14Speaker 2: prostate cainness is that we fund through the foundation. And
- 5:17Speaker 2: then there's me in the education role, so I'm the
- 5:19Speaker 2: conversation person. Yeh, Ruby's the care person and the rest
- 5:23Speaker 2: of the dollars going to research finding better ways of
- 5:26Speaker 2: making sure we can diagnose men at an early stage.
- 5:28Speaker 3: And I just reckon, it's so important, you know.
- 5:30Speaker 1: That's we organize a fun run on Father's Day obviously,
- 5:33Speaker 1: and all that money goes to the It's a Blokes
- 5:35Speaker 1: Thing Foundation.
- 5:36Speaker 3: We have the luncheon.
- 5:37Speaker 1: I just reckon, it's so important that our blokes realize
- 5:40Speaker 1: how important you are in our lives.
- 5:42Speaker 3: Please look after your health.
- 5:44Speaker 1: Please make sure you have that conversation, even if it
- 5:46Speaker 1: is difficult, because you mean so much to your families
- 5:50Speaker 1: and to everybody in the community. We don't want to
- 5:52Speaker 1: lose you. We want you to make sure that you're
- 5:53Speaker 1: looking after yourself.
- 5:55Speaker 2: That's right. And it's difficult to get blokes to go
- 5:57Speaker 2: to the doctor sometimes they feel they haven't got time
- 5:59Speaker 2: or you know, it's an inconvenience, but please just make
- 6:03Speaker 2: that appointment, make a date to check your prostate.
- 6:06Speaker 3: Know your number.
- 6:07Speaker 2: That's the other thing. The prostate psa number. It's important
- 6:10Speaker 2: to know your baseline so that then if it changes,
- 6:13Speaker 2: it will change slowly over time as you age, because
- 6:15Speaker 2: your prostate gets bigger as you get older, and a
- 6:17Speaker 2: lot of blokes in their eighties don't realize that it's
- 6:20Speaker 2: two times the size that it was when they were
- 6:23Speaker 2: in their twenties and it causes urine reflow problems often.
- 6:26Speaker 3: But that doesn't mean you've got cancer.
- 6:28Speaker 2: It just means you've got a benign enlargement usually. But
- 6:34Speaker 2: the thing is no your number, so that you know
- 6:36Speaker 2: if it's changing rapidly, and when you see any sign
- 6:38Speaker 2: of a sudden change, it's velocity of change. That's when
- 6:41Speaker 2: it's important to follow that up and have some further investigations.
- 6:44Speaker 1: And Russell, there will be blokes listening this morning who
- 6:46Speaker 1: are thinking, oh goodness, may that's a lot of information
- 6:49Speaker 1: to take through or to take on board. You know,
- 6:52Speaker 1: is there somewhere where they can go to get some
- 6:54Speaker 1: more information, or maybe there's there'd even be daughters, wives,
- 6:57Speaker 1: mums listening right now who are thinking as well. They'd
- 7:00Speaker 1: like to get a bit more info, maybe for the
- 7:02Speaker 1: men in their lives too.
- 7:03Speaker 3: Where can people head.
- 7:04Speaker 2: To well, my suggestion would be the Prostate Cancer Foundation
- 7:07Speaker 2: of Australia PCFA doctor Google will show you where to
- 7:11Speaker 2: find that quite quickly, and they have a great range
- 7:14Speaker 2: of resources that are able to be downloaded, or you
- 7:18Speaker 2: can ask for some hard copies to be sent to you.
- 7:21Speaker 2: One is the do I need a PSA test? The
- 7:23Speaker 2: next one is understanding your results, and the third one
- 7:26Speaker 2: is more about prostate cancer. Most men I know don't
- 7:29Speaker 2: even know where their prostate lies and they don't even
- 7:32Speaker 2: know what it does. So there's a lot of information
- 7:35Speaker 2: that men need to learn and take some control for
- 7:37Speaker 2: their destiny.
- 7:38Speaker 3: That's what we want them to do. Absolutely well, Ruth,
- 7:41Speaker 3: it is lovely to see you.
- 7:42Speaker 1: Lovely to catch up with you this morning, and thanks
- 7:44Speaker 1: so much for coming on and telling all the blokes
- 7:46Speaker 1: out there that listen to the show you know exactly
- 7:50Speaker 1: what they need to be doing to look after themselves.
- 7:52Speaker 3: Katie.
- 7:53Speaker 2: We never know when we're going to save someone's life,
- 7:54Speaker 2: and that's what I do every day try to save
- 7:56Speaker 2: another life.
- 7:57Speaker 1: Absolutely, it is very important work and I think gets
- 8:00Speaker 1: wonderful what you're doing.
- 8:01Speaker 3: Ruth, thank you so much for your time this morning.
- 8:03Speaker 3: Thanks Katie, thank you.
- 8:04Speaker 1: That is Ruth Logan there and she's from the Zablokes
- 8:07Speaker 1: Thing Foundation, the education program facilitator and it is such
- 8:12Speaker 1: important work. Now, if you are after some more information, obviously,
- 8:15Speaker 1: you can head to the Prostate Cancer Foundation of Australia.
- 8:18Speaker 1: If you want to find out more about our Father's
- 8:20Speaker 1: Day fund run as well, you can head to Run
- 8:22Speaker 1: with Dad dot com dot au